1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: I might not rant today, which might be a first 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Ravens are gonna win. We're gonna go 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: in there. Tomdestiny baby whoa whoa walks on the elevator. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: He looks at me, he says, you're an idiot. He 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: was right. Welcome into the lounge. I'm Ran Mink and 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm Garrett Downing, and uh, it's a lot more fun 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: to be doing this right now after the biggest win 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: of the season. I mean, things are going okay right now. Yeah, 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the podcast, you know there might I might not rant today, 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: which might be a first on the podcast. Just calm 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: and collected, happy Ryan Mink today. Honestly for everyone when 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I say that, I'm glad about the possibility of you 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: not ranting. It's been a while and I'm tired of 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: listening to it, but I'm glad that it might have happened. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: You know what, Can we also just say, let's take 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: a look at the cumulative podcast bump that Joe Flacco 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: received coming on here big time. People are giving credit 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: to the offensive line, the receivers, all that stuff for 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: Joe's big day. Where's the postgame pressor here? Starting starting 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: the rent begin now one minute in where's our credit 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: for the podcast book? We told Joe, We told him 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: when he came out here and sat of the couch 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: that the podcast bomb was gonna happen. It took a 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: little bit. Like I said, it's more of a collective bump. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I never saw him look up to the press box 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: and point up to us after any of those four touchdowns. 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: I know he probably wants to keep that thing hush off. 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: She doesn't want too many people trying to get in 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: on the podcast bumped to ruin the magic that he's 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: got going on right now? Can I get some of 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: his money? I mean, he's making a decent amount, you know, 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: maybe he tossed a little bit our way for helping 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: him out. Maybe he can give us a few old 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: recliner chairs that he doesn't use anymore that I'll take off, 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: all right, So to kick this thing off, we have 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: a recorded question and audio clip from Jason Corey. Go ahead, Garrett, 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: rolled tape here. What's up, guys? From Jason Corey, Baltimore 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: native living out in the wild West. First of all, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: booze over Turkey one booze field. Thanksgiving night is worth 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: it when you can have leftovers the next day. Um, 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: now that we're trending up, you know, defense is staying steady. 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the offense is really starting to get 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: it together. What are the chances we see January Joe 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: just rip it up in the playoffs and take us 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: all the way. I didn't think it was possible, but 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little better about it now. All right, guys, 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I love the podcast, Keep it up. See well, I 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: like the question from Jason. Also, can we give Jason 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: props because this question came in on Saturday. This is 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: before the game. Yeah, and he started talking about January 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Joe well as a fortune teller. This guy is well 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,279 Speaker 1: before anybody was on the January Joe bandwagon. Here early December, 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Jason was on the bandwagon. So uh to answer the question, wait, 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: I also have to give him props for the thanksgiving 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: part here. Oh that's true. It makes a great point. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: I try to skip over that exactly great point, Jason. 57 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: And we're seeing people coming out of the woodwork now 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: to support my side and the thanks you they We're 59 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: seeing more and more. Yeah, I think Jason is now 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: the second or third person on makes band wagon. We're 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: almost up to a Baker's doesn't he might be Again, 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: if you guys want to send in your questions, you 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: can do so with the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: dot net will read just normal emails. Also, we like 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: those audio questions as well. But to answer Jason's question, uh, 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: is January Joe gonna light it up here? It's a 67 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: lot easier to say that. It's a lot easier to 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: say after the performance you saw on Sunday, I think that, Um, 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: I kind of go back to what Steve Smith said, 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and I thought this was an interesting piece of the 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: postgame comments from the weekend, which is that when Joe 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: and there's all this discussion about the meeting they have 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: with Marty morning Way where he basically said that's be aggressive. 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Clearly they like the no huddle, the shotgun stuff. But 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: but the main point there that Steve brought up is 76 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: that when your quarterback says, I kind of want the 77 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: game on my shoulders, put it on me that he 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: wants to go and have that pressure, have that responsibility, 79 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and he got the job done. This is the time 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: where he shines. And I think that he was feeling 81 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I think he's been feeling kind of the heat over 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: the course of the year, and um, he wants the 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: game in his hands. Does any of this go back 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to ray Lewis? Should we credit ray Lewis for firing 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: up Joe? You know who probably would have credit ray Lewis. 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, I think that January Joe, Uh yeah, I 87 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: think he might be here to stay. And he's coming 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: up come a month early, and you know, he's talked 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: to all season about that they're close, that they're gonna 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: put it all together. And I think what we saw 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: early on was he didn't have a ton of confidence 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: at his knee. And then once Ronnie Stanley went down, 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: the offensive line was banged up. He didn't have a 94 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in that offensive line. I mean, you 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: started out with two rookies on the left side line. 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't think he felt exactly comfortable with that. You 97 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: factor in he was missing time with some of his receivers, 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: things like that. Now we see a more comfortable Joe, 99 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: and you started to see, you know, progress the last 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now, both you and I should admit 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: that we neither of us saw this kind of performance coming. 102 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: We thought the offense would improve, but neither of us 103 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: and too Jason Cory's credit, he said he's a big 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: time breakout all the way. I didn't think they would 105 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: be this good. Um, but I do think now that 106 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: you have a Joe Flack who's confidence in that offensive line, 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: confident his weapons outside that, Yeah, you could see him 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: get hot because hell, we've seen it before. When he 109 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: gets on a roll. You know, there's there's no stopping this. 110 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: You know what, I think what this game does beyond 111 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: just the one game bump of saying that, oh, I 112 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: feel really good about this game. That was nice, that 113 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: was fun. I liked having a fourth quarter where you 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of relax and um, start playing 115 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: the rest of your day. But what I think what 116 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: this game does is this sort of a collective side 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: from everybody that says, okay, we can go out there 118 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: and do that. We have the offensive, what that is, 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: what we've been seeing it. Just seeing it makes you 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: believe in it. Yeah, now you say, okay, we can 121 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: do that. And now when you're in a game and 122 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: say things don't go great in the first quarter, and 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: then also you can fall back on this from week thirteen, say, look, 124 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: this offense is capable of lighting it up at any 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: point and you have that memory bank. I think there 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: are certain points to when you also seeing it is 127 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: believing it works the other way too, so when you 128 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: haven't done it for so long and then you have 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: a penalty, a holding penalty, then the gates of fifteen 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: yard game on first and ten and you're looking at 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: second and twenty or first and twenty. Now all of 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh boy, here we go again. 133 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: Seeing this before, Yeah, we say in the press box, 134 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: here we go again. Might might as well bring Sam 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Cook out here on second down. I think you literally 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: said that the first time that happened. But the Ravens 137 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: then converted. They overcame those obstacles. And I think now 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: once you do that, when you get in that situation, 139 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: the next time, you're like, all right, whatever, you know, 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: we got this, and that really says something. I think 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: that does something. And now we'll just real quick. I 142 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: don't think neither of us would go on record of 143 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: saying that we think this offense is gonna put up 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: thirty eight points. That's not the new normal. It's going 145 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: to be more of a give and take. It's more 146 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: that it can just carry hold its end of the bargain. 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, the defense is still gonna win games for you. 148 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: That's that's your engine this year. Defense, kicker, that's your engine. 149 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: But if the offense, at least, if the rails aren't 150 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: falling off the back of your train with the offense, 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: if they can keep it together and play well, you 152 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: don't have to blow people's socks off, but play well. 153 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I think that that's a very good combination for the Ravens. 154 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if they play well, I mean, if they 155 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: play well, I think that this Ravens team is absolutely 156 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: a force to be reckon with in the a f 157 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: C playoff picture. Definitely. And I mean and then if 158 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: they play decent, I think that the Ravens still have 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a really good shot of making the playoffs their defense, Yes, 160 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: I agree. By the way, do you call him January 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Joe or Super Joe? I like January Joe. I'm at 162 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a little literation guy, really, I like Super Joe. Who 163 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: else called else calls him that? I don't know, but 164 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I do. It's Super Joe. It's it's super Bowl version 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: of Joe. Like when we're playing mini cornhole. Right, So 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: in our office in the lounge, we have a little 167 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Mini Cornhole sets miniature version, which, well, when do we 168 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: get on this gike? What two years ago? It was 169 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: longer than that. This was actually rely, Yeah, it's been 170 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: a while. We became addicted to Mini Cornhole played. I 171 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: hope Dick Cass and Steve shot listening to this episode 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: because we played a way more than we should have 173 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: been playing on company time, but we got addicted. We 174 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: would settle any disagreement with the game of Mini Cornhole, 175 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: and when I started to get on a little bit 176 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: of a heater, then it was a Super Joe. Just oh, 177 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm a super Joe. Here's here's the funny thing about that. 178 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: You always would go back to the super Joe thing. 179 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: And I hope Joe doesn't actually like, I wouldn't equate 180 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: his game to your performance as Super Joe and Mini 181 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Cornhole because you basically are terrible. Honestly, what you probably 182 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: if you and I the last probably fifty times we've played, Yeah, 183 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: I know, like the last fifty times you played, you 184 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: probably have won five of those games. It's it's been 185 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: you have you have a closer issue though you can't 186 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: close that out? Can you bring in the reliever? And 187 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: it's this bad news. Can we talk about the time 188 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: that you fell down like fifteen thousand dollars in fake 189 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: money and I do several thousand fake dollars. Then the 190 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: whole don't learn nothing, don't blew nothing, don't blow nothing. 191 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Also funny doubtle or nothing in a row. And then 192 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're down like fifteen thousand dollars, 193 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: throwing the corn hole set around the office. And then 194 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: that's basically when the game got put on hiatus for 195 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: a little while. Well, so that's super Joe took it 196 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: away from us. That's that's what it ended. Yeah, But 197 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: anyway back to football, what do you think was the 198 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: biggest key to this offensive turnaround? Was? Was it Super Joe? 199 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Was the other one? What was I think it was Joe? 200 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: I Like, you know, they're having games this year where 201 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line's protected Joe and he hasn't looked as 202 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: good as he did on Sunday. There's been games, I 203 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: mean it's been for the most part of the same receivers. 204 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Steve missed a couple of games. Pit has been out 205 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: there the entire season, and we haven't seen as good 206 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: of a Gameshot has grown. Sure, Um, he had that 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I mean, really Brashot had that one big play. It's 208 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: not like he was like that need to do. But 209 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: they were also at that point, that was late in 210 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: the game, and they were already up three offer had 211 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: one ft on the bus at that point. Yeah, the 212 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: game wasn't well in hand. So I don't think that 213 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the Prescote Paraman emergence was a big factor of the offense, 214 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: like finding it stride. I think it was Joe, I 215 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: really do. And sure the offense line is better and 216 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: all those little things around him, but he was lighting 217 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: it up. He carved up that defense on those first 218 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: few drives of that game. Just boom boom boom, standing 219 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: tall in the pocket, throwing with precision, throwing with confidence. 220 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: It was Joe. Yeah, I would have to agree with that. 221 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think the offensive line is a small component, 222 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: as you kind of said in there. I think the 223 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: offensive line is a major component. I mean, you look 224 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: at the four game slide right corresponds with the four 225 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: games that Ronnie Stanley was out. That's no coincidence. And 226 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: and like I said at the top, I think Joe's 227 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: confidence and even Dennis Pittis said this, his best friend 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: said when you give Joe time. We all know what 229 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: he can do. So Dennis knows how clutch that is 230 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: an important is for Joe. Maybe it's a sign moving 231 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: forward to the Ravens keep investing a little bit more 232 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: on the offensive line than they have in your passed 233 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: when you said, well, we'll make it work with these guys. 234 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: And I know I've always kind of discounted that sentiment though, 235 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: because they spent working in Dallas. I know they well, 236 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: they spent a number six saying that they've invested. Yeah, 237 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: it started this year with the number six pick obviously, right, 238 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and you have center, Yeah, you have a center that 239 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: you traded for and is you know, I don't really 240 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: traded like a fourth or a fifth round pick something 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: like that, but he's on the higher end in terms 242 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: of center salaries. You have Marshleanna, who's the best card 243 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you had assembly for all those years up until this season. 244 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: So well, but they haven't The point is they haven't 245 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: really invested in terms of resigning some of their own guys. 246 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: They've let some guys walk, specifically Guardah. But here's this 247 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: is kind of getting off the rails here in the conversation. 248 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: But they also invested in Eugene Monroe, who they expected 249 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: to be the franchise left tackle. It obviously didn't work out, 250 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: but that investment was made, so I've always discounted that. No, 251 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: sure that they don't invest in the offense line, It's 252 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: still like, all right, so let's talk about the playoffs, 253 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: because that's all anybody wants to talk about right now. 254 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: This is this team going to the playoffs. I've said 255 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: for a while that I think nine and seven gets 256 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: it done. I'm starting to wonder whether nine setting gets 257 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: it done. It gets a lot, Eli Manning, thanks a lot. 258 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: You're coming off the great win, and then I'm sitting 259 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: there typing them out my stories watching the Giants Steelers game. 260 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: See Eli throwing picks like they're candy in the red zone. 261 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh thanks, It could have been a great day. It 262 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: could have been a great day. Yeah, Eli was terrible. 263 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: I was really hoping that. I thought the Giants were 264 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna pull off that upset in hind Steeler too, and 265 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: they were hot, and I just didn't think they'd be 266 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: able to stop at out Beckham and I thought Eli 267 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: would play at least marginal, some mediocre, and it wasn't 268 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: even that. That was a bummer. So what do you 269 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: think ten nine and seven gets it done? Still, I'm 270 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: kind of thinking does ten and six get it done? 271 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking you need ten and six and 272 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I think that that will get it done. Obviously, it 273 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: all comes down to the Steelers game, like we've been saying, 274 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: but let's just play this out right now. So the 275 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Ravens are seven and five. Okay, let's Patriots Eagles, Steelers bangles. 276 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: That's the remaining schedule for the Ravens Steelers schedule. They 277 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: go at Buffalo, at Cincinnati, home against the Ravens, and 278 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: then home against the uh the Browns on the mission 279 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: to avoid the only sixteen season on January one. So 280 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be favorite in all four of those games, Yes, 281 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: they they Let's say that. I would say they're gonna 282 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: get three wins out of there, and the Ravens game 283 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be their toughest obviously. Uh So, I think 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: it comes down to probably that game. Now, if the 285 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Ravens beat the Steelers, that essentially gives them a two 286 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: game cushion because you'll go up one game on the 287 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: Steelers and then you and then you go you have 288 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker, right, So that's pretty big time. Yeah. But 289 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: if if the Ravens were to go into that game, 290 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: but just say the Ravens lose to the Patriots and 291 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: game back, then it does give you, you know, then 292 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: it gives you the advantage even though you're tied exactly 293 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens can go into Pittsburgh down a game, 294 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: beat the Steelers, and probably win the division. Yeah, but 295 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: there's a chance, Yeah, there's there's definitely a chance that 296 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you need to be it. But if the right if 297 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers, if the Steelers win this weekend, the Ravens 298 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: lose in New England, the Steelers are up a game. 299 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens beat the Steelers. Here's the thing that many 300 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: people are talking about that I think could be in 301 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: play is I think the wild Card is more in 302 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: play than people realize. You know, it's all been all 303 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: about the division. Gotta win the f C North, gotta 304 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: win the f C North. The Broncos are only a 305 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: game up when on the Ravens in the wild cards standings, 306 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and the Broncos have a pretty brutal four games stretch 307 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: at Tennessee this weekend, then they have the Chiefs the 308 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Patriots. All four of those games are rough. 309 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: They could potentially go oh and four. I mean, their 310 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: offense is not very good right now. Uh So the 311 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Broncos are are susceptible. They're susceptible in the wild cards. 312 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. I still 313 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to that Steelers game. Yeah, 314 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: it absolutely is. And as I'm sitting here thinking about it, 315 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens could drop this Patriots game, and it really 316 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: means nothing. Hear me out on this. They lose this game, 317 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: and then if they beat the Steelers and win their 318 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: other three games against Eagles and Bengals and then beat 319 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers, then they are still in the playoffs. Even 320 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: if the Ravens lose this game and the Patriots are 321 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: and the Steelers win, the Ravens still control their own destiny, exactly. 322 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: There will be a game down on the standings, and 323 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: they'll control their own destiny exactly. Now we're taking a 324 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: kind of some liberties here. Neither of us are assuming 325 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are just gonna be walk in a 326 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: high seel and it's gonna be a cakewalk. Obviously, it's 327 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: one of the topic places to play and all that, 328 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: but they do still control their own own destiny. So 329 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting. No matter what happens this weekend, Ravens 330 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: controller in destiny. So story time all right, So since 331 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: we're going up to New England this week, we have 332 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: a great story time for you folks. This is a 333 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: fitting story. Yeah, this is a great one. Uh. So 334 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: we always enjoy the trip up to New England and 335 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: we stay in Providence, Rhode Island, just small little town. 336 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: But why we like it in part only because the 337 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: big big game coming the next day, but because there's 338 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: this great little brew pub right around the corner from 339 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: the hotel and Providence just a great pumpkin beers on tap. 340 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Hey dude, it's a little tradition. It's a tradition. We 341 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: always go to the same spot. And so we're there 342 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and you know, we're having a good time, all of 343 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: us summer friends here because we're in two thousand twelve 344 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: going into two thousand, yes exactly two twelve. Uh And 345 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: so we're there having a good time, and in walks 346 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: in this Providence news station right and they're doing little 347 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Man on the Street interviews because the place is just 348 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: full of Ravens fans who are all staying there, and 349 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: they're interviewing fans about you know, oh, why did you 350 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: come up here? Or you know, wh what do you 351 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: think is gonna happen in the game? What do you 352 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: think Tom Brady? Stuff like that. Right, So we kind 353 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: of have their our eye on them, and they come 354 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: up to us, Hey, would you guys, you know, would 355 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you want to an interview? And Garrett steps right up, Sure, yeah, 356 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll do an interview with you. Right. So they start 357 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: asking you questions and we're all kind of behind you, 358 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: chiming in, you know, and you're just sitting there. Rabys 359 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: are gonna win. We're gonna go in there. Tema Destiny baby, 360 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: whoa whoa Teama Destiny gotta go in there and beat 361 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: Tom Rady. Man. I'll tell you what I love how 362 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: in the in your recollection of the story, I picked 363 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: up a Southern accent. So we're a lot just doing 364 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: a great interview, right, And they're like, oh, thanks, so 365 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: really appreciate this is gonna be on lately. Let me 366 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: just get your name downing looks some straight in the eye, Ryan, 367 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: min Ryan, make r y a end. So that. Then 368 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: what happens. Well, first of all, I love when I 369 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: said that I was you and You're just sitting there 370 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: across the table like I don't even know what to 371 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: say this, Ques Lapp, and I'm just like, oh boy, 372 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: here we go. So then in the morning, I'm like 373 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I'm like, no one's gonna see this. 374 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody in Providence, like this probably won't 375 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: even make the cut. And yeah, no, no shot anyone 376 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: sees this. So then the morning I get in the 377 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: elevator to go down to breakfast for team meal before 378 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: the game. First person that gets on the elevators are 379 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: kicking coach Randy Brown. He walks on the elev and 380 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: he looks at me. He says, you're an idiot. He 381 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: was right. And then and then on the way just 382 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: through the food line getting breakfast that morning, three or 383 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: four players stopped me and we're like, oh, it looks 384 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: like you guys are having a good time last night. 385 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: Team of Destiny Hot Team of Destiny like Dan straight, Yeah, yeah, 386 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: so good times, good time. Something new. Unfortunately, are you 387 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: gonna make news this year? Yeah? I don't think so 388 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going up I have to fly out 389 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: the day of the game, not going in the night before. 390 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll hit up it's a tradition. You gotta stop 391 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: by that brup. I'm gonna get to the group of 392 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: about eleven am. Just nice tall winner logger eleven am. 393 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great time. This is just a 394 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: sign note Winter loggers. We need to start talking about that. 395 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: So you guys have Christmas beer recommendations, Go ahead and 396 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot 397 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Now absolute, let's get that rolling. So all right, so 398 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: we have another reader email, uh speaking about the Patriots. 399 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: Good little transition here. This is two fur the first 400 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: time that we've ever done. This is an insensive to 401 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: everybody to sending your email you have a chance of 402 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: getting them read. This is from Neil and he says, Hi, 403 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Garrett and Downing you like it, fans of the podcast. 404 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: We'll get that all right, Neil from Portland. I just 405 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: want to say, first and foremost of this is the 406 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Ravens squad I was hoping for at the beginning of 407 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: the season. What a display of offense. We're clicking on 408 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: all cylinders, baby. I think a lot of people would 409 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: agree with you gotta hit that baby better. We're clicking 410 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: on all cylinders, baby baby, all right now going to 411 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: New England, Neil asked, I really just want to write 412 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: this week to ask are we worried about the ten 413 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and two Patriots? With Tom Brady and Bill Belichick? Do 414 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: we have a chance to stop someone? In this case 415 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: some seven different people they have that can shred our defense. 416 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: I believe in Joe and the boys are better than 417 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: their d so will it come down to stopping their offense? 418 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: As I always keep up the good work, enjoy the 419 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: podcast and the victory cake. I will enjoy that. How 420 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: many pieces are you gonna have this week? Well, you 421 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: know me, I'm on this little binge around here. I'm 422 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: just what is it? You're backing it on your balking season? 423 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: So you have three? So a load of question there 424 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: from Neil. Yeah. Well, the question, you know, basically is 425 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: do we have to worry about the Patriots? Yes? The Patriots, 426 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: yes we do. You have to worry about them? And 427 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: he thinks that the game is going to come down 428 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: to our defense being able to stop their offense, because 429 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: he thinks he's buying in on our offense right now, 430 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: pushing all the ships in the center table. Um. I 431 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of disagree with that notion. I think the offense 432 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots defense is better than people think. They're actually 433 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: tied with the Ravens in scoring defense this year and 434 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: points loud per game, so they're pretty good. Number two 435 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: in the Patriots are tied with the Ravens number two 436 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: in the league and scoring defense. Um. But I do 437 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: think the Ravens defense still matches up well against New 438 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: England's offense. Let's look at it. They don't have Rob Gonkrowski. 439 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: That makes a big difference. He's been a matchup problem 440 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: for the Ravens over the years and would be I 441 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: think even a bigger matchup problem this year considering the 442 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Ravens have gone smaller and faster at safety. I felt 443 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: better about it when he had Will Hi big old 444 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: Will Hill on ground and Bernard can we bring Poller back? 445 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: The Patriots killaps them up for this game. UM. So 446 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots have as many weapons as 447 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Neil is really worried about. I mean, they have the 448 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: one big weapon. If they got the big one, that's 449 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But what makes Tom great is getting getting 450 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: it out quickly to those other guys. That woman is 451 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: still really good. But I think the Ravens match up 452 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: well against them. They've gone more into a running team 453 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: than they used to be. They rely a lot on 454 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: the Garrett Blunt. I think the Ravens can stop what 455 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: the Patriots do so well. And this is no secret 456 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: to anybody, but they can totally change up there. They're 457 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: so good at game planning and attacking your weaknesses, and 458 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: they can change up their game plan. I mean, they 459 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: could run the ball fifty times when wee can they 460 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: come out there and throw it fifty the next week? 461 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: And they do that pretty seamlessly. They've done it throughout 462 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick's time together. So I would 463 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: think if they're trying to attack the Ravens and they're 464 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: going to try to be more of a past heavy 465 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: team because nobody can run on the Ravens, and I 466 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: think that I still get a little nervous when there's 467 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: a lot of teams that have get the ball out 468 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: quickly and throw a lot against Ravens. That. I mean, 469 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: you look at the teams. Derek Carr had success doing that, 470 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Eli Manning had success doing that. I know that in 471 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: most of that game. He didn't. I don't know. I mean, 472 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: I I said some yards against uh Odell back. They 473 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: was the big play yards, the biggest I think. I 474 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: think the quick passing offense. I agree with you on 475 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Now, they're pretty vertical, even though they get 476 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: it out quickly, but they weren't hitting all these down 477 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: the field plays. It was a It was a lot 478 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: of big plays, methodical, A lot of it was methodical. Yeah, 479 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: But I think the Ravens are better suited to handle 480 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense this year than they have been even 481 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: in years past when they've played pretty well against their offense, 482 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: generally speaking, because the Ravens are faster this year, that 483 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: they gang tackle better, they're better tacklers this year than 484 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: they have been in years past. They can rally to 485 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: the ball better now than they have been able to. 486 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: And let's not be let's let's be frank about it. 487 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: There's been defensive breakdowns, communication, trick plays getting the Ravens, 488 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: so that kind of stuff. I think some of that 489 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: will be cleaned up by Eric wettle Well. I think 490 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that I think the secondary this year is vastly improved 491 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: from the secondary that went in there. Two thousand fourteen 492 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: when the Patriots had a field day and had those race, 493 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: those two fourteen point leads, as you know in the playoffs. 494 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Eric Weddle is a great edition. Larius Webb 495 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: is playing really fantastic right now at safety. Jimmy Smith 496 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: is back. I look this up. You kind of shrug 497 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: your shoulders. I had bettastically. Well. I think might be 498 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a stretcher. I think he's playing well. Yeah, 499 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: there's the only player ranked higher than where since the 500 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: bye week according to Pro Football Focus is Terrell Sucks 501 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: the only player son Yeah on defense. Yeah, so you 502 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: can shrug your shoulders and play that great. I put 503 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: them on my five, you know, five guys to watch, 504 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: Five unheralded players that deserve a little more credit. But 505 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: I thought you took a little too. Yeah, he's playing 506 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: fantastic right now. That pick was fantastic. I'll tell you that. Yeah, exactly. 507 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Why do you Why do you think the Ravens play 508 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: so well in New England? What is it about them? 509 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Because everybody always talks, even like my friends, and there 510 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: are a few of them who are Patriots fans, and 511 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: they should count themselves lucky. My friend with allegiances like that. 512 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, Matt player. Uh, but why they 513 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: always talk about, you know, the team. They'll admit, the 514 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: team we don't want to see up there in the 515 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: playoffs is the Ravens. And they're right because we always 516 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: give them a run for their money. Why did the 517 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: Ravens place so well in doing all? Right? Well, this 518 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: is a good question. I think it goes back to 519 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: what we were saying earlier a little bit, which is 520 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: collective experiences. You've you've gone there and you've won, you've 521 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: had success, and then all a sudden that like then 522 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: you start to believe and you can do that. So 523 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: all the way back when when they first started having 524 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: success there, they then started to believe, oh we did 525 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: it once, we can do it again. And then it 526 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: kind of builds on itself kind of yet that kind 527 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: of a dozen tend they went up there for the 528 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: playoff game, just had a great game, and then two 529 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, we know, we know the history. Um well, 530 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: I think what I think there's a few components. One 531 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: is it's like the perfect um villain to what they 532 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: are as a team, in the sense that the Ravens 533 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: are a team that's built on defense, and they have 534 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: these guys that love thriving that environment, particularly when they 535 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: had success, when they had obviously Terrell sugs. He kind 536 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: of embodies at Ray Lewis at read you have this defense, 537 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: you have a great defense that could go in there 538 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: and match up with him well from a football standpoint, 539 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: and then also loved being the defense, the big bad 540 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: defense on the road. Then the other part of it, too, 541 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: I think, is the offense with Joe and and this 542 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: is the yang and yang with Joe. People criticize him 543 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: for not being uh passionate enough is the buzzword obviously, 544 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, based on what Ray say. But then when 545 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Joe gets in these big time situations, he kind of 546 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: looks at everything the same and he just goes out 547 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: there and plays ball and he's not intimidated by a 548 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: big stage. And then maybe there's some Sunday afternoons where 549 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: he isn't amped up enough for everybody. But at the 550 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: end of the day, and I'll take the guy who 551 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: isn't intimidated more than the guy who's too amped up, exactly, 552 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: And I think that that has a lot to do 553 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: with him. And then everybody takes her cues from him. 554 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: A lot of teams come into that, into Gilette Stadium 555 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: and get intimidated because it's an intimidated place to play. Yeah, 556 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: not just I don't think like they're fans are that 557 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: crazy or that great, but it's just like, you know 558 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: how good the Patriots are. They do it for a 559 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: good job with game presentation. It's it's a tough place. 560 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: You always say that, you always say that it's not 561 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: a loud place to play it. I'm definitely the loud 562 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: place to when the Patriots are playing well. But I 563 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: think that you can take those fans out of the 564 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: game pretty quickly. I think you can not used to 565 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: be in down in games. And I think the Ravens 566 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: have done well when they've gotten them down a little 567 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: bit and that place gets real Yeah, I think pretty 568 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: much every place really gets real quiet when you take 569 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: the I'm telling you, that place is different. I'm telling you. 570 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: But here's why. I think part of why the Ravens 571 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: placed the well up there, and it's scheme. I think 572 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: that the Ravens scheme up the Patriots pretty darn well, 573 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and that starts specifically on defense. Dean ps knows how 574 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: to scheme up the Patriots. Being the former Patriots defensive coordinator, 575 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: he knows what Tom Brady likes and what he doesn't like. 576 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: And the Ravens particularly are good getting pressure up the 577 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: middle with that defensive line. Tom doesn't like guys stepping 578 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: up in his face when he doesn't can't step forward 579 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: really kind of plant and drive or move forward into 580 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: the pocket and throw on the run. As he's kind 581 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: of moving forward that he's not as good when he's 582 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: going backwards. He's definitely not the same quarterback. Ravens have 583 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: always had good interior rush, specifically this year with Brandon Williams, 584 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce, Tommy John Again, I think that gives Tom 585 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: some problems interior rush. That's huge. That it's not just 586 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: the edge rush because he gets the ball out quickly. 587 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: You need the interior rushes. Yeah, and the Ravens have 588 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of that, And I just think they scheme 589 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: up well. I think the Ravens do a good job 590 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: schematically versus the Patriots and specifically against the Steelers. There's 591 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: are two good teams to kind of know how to 592 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: scheme up. If you're gonna pick two, what's what's uh? 593 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: What's your opinion? Of Tom Brady real quick before we 594 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: wrap this up. I mean, I think the funny thing 595 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady is, you know, as Ravens saying, you're 596 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: like everyone hates him, and then in my interactions with 597 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: him on conference calls or prush conferences, I'm like, I 598 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: really like that guy. Yeah, you came away with like 599 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: a man crushed two years ago. You're like, I think 600 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: actually you were the one that came out gushing from 601 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: that conference call. Let's be honest, you both did. Yeah, 602 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: the guy comes off pretty well, and he comes across great. 603 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: He well, this is a little thing. But I don't know, 604 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: maybe this is my design, but pretty much every person 605 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: that calls, it's the PR person that calls and says, Hi, 606 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: this is so and so. With Washington Redskins, I have 607 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins on the phone, this is so so. Of 608 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: the Steelers, I have Ben Roethlisberger. Let me know when 609 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: you guys already the phone rings in the media room 610 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: here and one of our PR people answers it, and 611 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: then it's just Tom Brady on the other other ends, 612 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: and it's like he's calling from his toes. He goes, hey, 613 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: this is Tom. It's literally what he said. He says, Hi, 614 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: this is Tom and everyone's like, oh, this is Tom Brady. 615 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Here we go, and like it's a little thing, but 616 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: it kind of made you like the guy. Yeah, but 617 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: I do think that on the field, a few guys 618 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: drive me more Tom Brady, watching that guy in the 619 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: refs and all that every time he gets I still 620 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: get mad about thinking about when he spiked at Reid 621 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: and that two. I don't get mad about that. But 622 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I was a chief play. It was a dirty play, 623 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: not just cheap. It was a dirty play. You know. 624 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I have a tendency to sometimes play on the edge 625 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and you should be analize and for that. 626 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: But I think I think the way he appeals to 627 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: refs and all that stuff just just not cool. Uh So, 628 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: what's your guts? Before we wrap up, what's your gut saying? 629 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: I feel good about dubs, I feel good about this game. 630 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: I just I think that the weapons of the Patriots 631 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: are missing are critical. The Ravens are riding high right now. 632 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: It's the classic like, oh, get hot at the right time. 633 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: You know, they go out and they win a big game. 634 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: In December, they played their best game of the year 635 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: right before going in there. As soon as the game 636 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: was over, they were already kind of talking. And we're 637 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: going to a place where we played a lot of 638 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: big games. We like that challenge. They're gonna be checked up, 639 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: They're gonna be really fired up. Certainly the Patriots are too, 640 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: but I think that there's a little bit of their 641 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: back to being the underdog role that they relish, and uh, 642 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: I think it's there's a lot to be excited about. 643 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: If you're Ravens fan right now, I would agree. Thank 644 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: you so much for listening everybody. Once again, you can 645 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 646 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Leave us a review rating, tell us how great we are, 647 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: tell me how great I am. Garrett, You can say 648 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: what you want. Thanks again for listening, and we'll talk 649 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: to you later this week when we bring in linebacker 650 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: see J Moseley. You're gonna want to tune in for that. 651 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: Thanks again,