1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Warning today's episode can you need spoilers for Alien Earth 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: episode six? Hello, my name is Jason Deutepcio and I'm 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Rosy Night and welcome back to X Revision, the podcast 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: where we dive deep for their face hugger into your 5 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: favorite shows, these comics of pop culture comedy. You from 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: my heart where we're bringing you three episodes a week 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: plus new Sunturday, no Sun Saturday. 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: In today's episode, the kids are not all right? Who 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: would have ever imagined that thinking that ten year olds 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: could be in the bodies of adults and deal with 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: horrific aliens would ever go wrong? Definitely not Boy Cavalist, 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: and we will get into that the Iya Purse. Is 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: he on our side? Is he not? I'm still a 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: support I we'll talk about that. But first introduced super 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: producer JOELMANI join us on this expedition to Netherland Island 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: where just bad stuff is occurring at old times good. 17 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: This is a fantastic episode. Let's dive in. Okay, Alien 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Narth one oh six. The Fly, which we can only 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: assume as a reference to the classic fifties B movie 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: horror y icon of cinema, The Fly, and It's later, 21 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: you know Lima imagining with Jeff we open in the lab. 22 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: The eye in the sheep is very watchful, watching everything, 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: watching Wendy with determination, watching everything. We hear a boy 24 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: genius doing more podcasts, recording bro. 25 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Just like somebody takes somebody take the ability to press, 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: like you know, he's you know, he's like broadcasting it 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: right to everyone in the fucking island. I'm like, somebody 28 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: download it, somebody. 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: I think if you don't download it immediately to your 30 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: podcast player and play it. Like he gets the stat 31 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh okay, Yeah. 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: I like that. He's like he's got like screen time, 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: but for his podcast where he's like, how long did 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: they listen for it? Did they listen to the whole thing? 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: I like that they are choosing creepier and creepier quotes 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: as the season goes on. They're doing a good job 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: finding the most disturbing parts of I want them. 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I want them to cut to like the other angle 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: or the two shots, so that we see like Adam 40 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: with a backwards baseball cap sitting there being like, Wow, 41 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy, yo, after reads some passage of type ship. 42 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's this special? 43 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Guess? 44 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: This week on Netherland Island. Don't disagree with them, don't 45 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: tell me a word wrong. 46 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: Wendy, meanwhile, is in gristener her language lessons with Baby's anomorph. 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: It kind of strikes out at her through the glass, 48 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: but that doesn't bother her that much. And the glass 49 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: is clearly acid resistant and super strong. The eggs and 50 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: all the other creatures, they're all there in the cells, 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: and Kersh and Hermit are also there on the other 52 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: side of the glass watching this language learning seminar, and 53 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: of course Bro Hermit is like, hey, just quick update, 54 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: We're this is all safe, right, Yeah, they put it out. 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: She's safe in there, the bugs, all that stuff. He 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: also wants to know from Kersh about Wendy's maintenance, like 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: let's say, you know, when does her battery run out? 58 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Like when, how would I say to tears like curshs, 59 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Like listen, don't fucking worry about it. Here's why you 60 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: don't need to worry about it. One, you're like an aunt, 61 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and it would be like are you gonna do Yeah, 62 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: it's like an aunt asking like how do I build 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: a gaming PC? Like you don't know what you're doing? 64 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: And two boy genius is never gonna let you have her, 65 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: and that's it. And but he and you know, Joe 66 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, but I care about her. I want 67 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: her every good life. He's like, listen, considering Wendy's value 68 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: both in dollars and her potential to invent, just put 69 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: it out of your mind that you will ever, ever, 70 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: ever have like a familial type relationship with her here 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. 72 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: This is such an interesting moment for the two of 73 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: these people. One hermit, you got a corporate espionage better 74 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: you be out here asking. 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: About so bad. 76 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: I was like, you, it's a little too dilied for me. 77 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Like you have been a little bit like you. 78 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: You've seen some of the world. Presumably you like watch 79 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: your sister. You should be a little hardened. I think 80 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: by some of the encounters and experiences we know that 81 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: he's had it. 82 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: Also, I feel like my guy is not doing a 83 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: great job of like being realistic about where he stands 84 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: in the pecking order. Like a few days ago, you 85 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: were literally talking to like a faceless robot, and now 86 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: you're trying to work out how to you know, charge 87 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: your hyper intelligent sister bot at one of the biggest, 88 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: most secret places in the world. I don't know. I 89 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: just I feel like he's not being very sensible. 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I agree with both of you. I do think it 91 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: is a little played up. 92 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Can I ask you guys a question about Alex Luthor. 93 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Does he have the juice for Hermit or is it 94 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: too much of like an introverted portrayal, because I think 95 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: there's been quite a lot of conversation about Hermit's impact. 96 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: I think he has the juice. I think that the 97 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: issue is to Joe Well's point, he has written so 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: White Knight like good guy that it's almost unbelievable. Like again, 99 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: he was part of this highly militarized search and rescue 100 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: Prodigy team that carries assault rifles into you know, emergency 101 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: zones to rescue people. He's not the idea that he's like, 102 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Oh golly, g do you think I'd be able to 103 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: have a relationship with my billion dollar robots? Like come on, 104 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: come on. It just does stretch credulity a little bit. 105 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's going to be being a bit 106 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: more stealthy, a bit more on kind of like this 107 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: would be a plan why you'd have to essentially kidnap 108 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: her from the island and then learn how to cyber 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: hacker via you know, underground kind of hacking communities. I 110 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: don't think. 111 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: You have to have nineteen steps ahead. 112 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: I also feel like, have Hermit and Wendy ever had 113 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: a fight before, like as brother and sister? Like, I'm 114 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: just this relationship is underwritten. 115 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 116 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's any of the performer's faults. I 117 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: just feel like, yeah, you know, given their age difference, 118 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: and you know, she was. 119 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Like approaching preteen right when she transferred. 120 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: So I just feel like there's not enough like tension 121 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: or fusion between those two characters. 122 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: And I also just feel. 123 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: Like there is no emotional friction that you feel like 124 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: that would be well between I think I think this 125 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: is again excellent show, but I think this is kind 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: of what this show is built on, is like they takes. 127 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: You're taking these kind of archetypical relationship sibling, boss, lieutenant, 128 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: right hand man, and you're kind of letting those do 129 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the character and it usually works Elsewhere. 130 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Adam aka Lobot, Arthur and Dame are looking over nibs. 131 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Arthur and Dame are like, we're not sure what was wrong, 132 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: but we think it was because she was had a 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of significant trauma as a child, and that when 134 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: we you know, we did have those concerns when we 135 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: did the transfer, and we thought we had tweaked whatever 136 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: the programming enough to kind of adjust for that baseline 137 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: of trauma, but clearly it didn't. It didn't work, and 138 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: maybe given enough time with therapy, some kind of they 139 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: have some kind of synth therapy I guess talk therapy 140 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: that they would go through with these beings. Dame wants 141 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: to let that play out. Adam says, no, just basically 142 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: like hold down the power button for ten seconds, let's 143 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: factory reset and just kind of clear it all out, 144 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: reset her to pre the date that she started malfunctioning, 145 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and then we're and then that's it. Dame and Arthur 146 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: initially don't want to. Arthur really doesn't want to, and 147 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: Adam is like, I don't give a fuck because the 148 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: Prodigy showcase for investors and consumers coming up in three weeks. 149 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: She needs to be up on that stage doing handstands 150 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: and saying I love boy genius, and that's it. Arthur 151 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: flat out refuses to do it. Dame's like, well, I'll 152 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: do it alone. And then Adam's like, great, Arthur, you're fired. 153 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You have till eod to get off the fucking island. 154 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: If you're here after dark, maybe you get shot. We'll see. 155 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: This throple of pain. This child just like jump like, hey, 156 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: you're gonna reform. She's like, I'll capitulate to anything. Where's 157 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: your backbone? 158 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Man? Like I need? I will say, like, I think 159 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: that this is a good I actually think this is 160 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: a great example of how people interact with power. There's 161 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: because there's there's two there's two philosophies, right, There's like, 162 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: that's it, I'm not going to participate in this, and 163 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: then there's well, couldn't I theoretically do more good from inside? 164 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: Like? 165 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Am I not the mediating force here? Like I'm the 166 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: one that's making it marginally better by being inside, and 167 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: therefore if I cooperate a little, I can also make 168 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: it a little better. And I'm not saying that either 169 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: right correct in every situation, but it's certainly like it's 170 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: certainly looking sideways at Dame. I think although she may 171 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: have a point, right, she may. I think there's a 172 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: world in which you could see where she's coming from. 173 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I disagree, but like I get it again. 174 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna end up asking questions about how much people 175 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: think things through in this episode, because there are choices 176 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: that even if you even if you want Yeah, it's 177 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: truly it's a bad decision bonanza this week on Alath, Like, 178 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: I think that if you were going to make the 179 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: choice to do this to Nibs, then there are things 180 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: that you need to put in place to make sure 181 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: that the things that happen in this episode do not happen. 182 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: And they did not put them into place. 183 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think that. Yeah. So Wendy leaves the lab, 184 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: she runs into her brother. She's very stoked at the 185 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: language lessons and says, I'm getting better at speaking to 186 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: the alien. It's hard trilling my rs is a little weird, 187 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: but I'm getting better at it. And then Joe was like, okay, 188 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: but like they're basically killer parasites, Like they just want 189 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: to maybe you don't need to play eggs in our 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: chest and kill us. And then like that's it, you know, 191 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: like we have they're not like us, like we have community. 192 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: They're just like want to kill us and eat us 193 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: and face on this. And Wendy's like, and it's clear 194 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: that Wendy is not. While she agrees that the creatures 195 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: are being studied and did not have agency in what 196 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: is happening to them, she also clearly is not rational 197 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: about this. Loves the zenomorph basically like a puppy already 198 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: at this point, and it says flat out, well, this 199 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: one can be good. 200 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: I love that line too, because I'm just like, Okay, 201 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: she's like, she's like, guys, there's no bad animals, just 202 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: bad Maybe she is. 203 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: We're back to our conversation from the pilot, right, So, 204 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: so we had this conversation in the pilot about the 205 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: scorpion and like, what is it true? 206 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: They're asking very. 207 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: Specifically, like this thing might have community and it might 208 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: attack us, and if like she's having or at least 209 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: these thoughts implanted in her before she even makes the transition. 210 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: It's very interesting to me that post transition she's like 211 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: completely doubled down on that, and that that completely aligns 212 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: with like what Boy Genius and ostensibly cursh one be 213 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: really interested to see. I have a new theory that 214 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: Curge and boy Genius might be somewhat on the same 215 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: page more than we're aware of. 216 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: Right now, Okay, I'm excited to talk more about that. 217 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that. I'm excited to talk 218 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: about that. I'll just say that in terms of, like, 219 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: could she not be correct about this alien being good? 220 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: When you release an alien in a room full of assholes, 221 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: it will seem like it's doing good things. Correct. 222 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Okay, good point, good point, good point. Okay, she she 223 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: didn't see like an a look and look, this is 224 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: the We are the people who were pro I we 225 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: were pro and. 226 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: It's on this island of assholes. 227 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like, so you know, I feel that that's 228 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: a good point. You're like, we have yet to see 229 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: the alien in like kindergarten, where maybe she would start 230 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: to feel differently about. 231 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: Uh So, Wendy basically gets her back up about this 232 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,359 Speaker 1: conversation because Joe is kind of like being very dismissive 233 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: about the value of her working with the alien, even 234 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: that they exist here on Earth, and she's like, this 235 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: is a yes place. Boy genius always says, we just 236 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: say yes here, which, again in the context of billionaire 237 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: islands back children on them is and yet another dark 238 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: mirror into the world we live. And she basically tells 239 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: hermit like, we only say yes. 240 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Here, and I'm not the star of nothing. I'm okay, 241 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: all right. 242 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Legitimately this is bad, well, Joe says later in the 243 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: episode to underline the metaphor even stronger. Know is how 244 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: we take control of our bodies, which is yes, well, yes, yeah. 245 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: We go to the mediation meeting, Utani and Genius facing 246 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: off across this long table, their lawyers on either side, 247 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: a mediator in the middle, Marrow and Kersh standing beside 248 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: their respective bosses, and Utani makes her case as as 249 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: boy Genius, with his bare feet disgusting up on the table, 250 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: picks his toes and her point, and her point is 251 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: basically like, the ship is my property, everything on it 252 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: is my property, give it back. And then boy Genius 253 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: is like not unfairly, like, well, your ship crashed into 254 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: my city and killed untold numbers of people that I 255 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: don't care about, but still causing a significant dollar value damage. 256 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: And you know, also like was it on purpose? Did 257 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: you purposefully? Exactly, like we need to look at all 258 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: of these things, you know, exact like he did at 259 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: the stable. 260 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Did this he is like truly giving a performance of 261 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: a lifetime because you just want to sell this guy. 262 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I love yes, Rosie, Like it has been I was 263 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: thinking about this old driving around yesterday. It's been a 264 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: minute since I hated a villain like this, Like I 265 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: haven't seen a villain in a show that is this 266 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: catable in a in a in a second, and he is. 267 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to get a lot of 268 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: our TV shows like and all right, we already hate 269 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the Empire. 270 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: We hate those are those are the character those are 271 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: the things that we are. We know about and we've 272 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: known the bad for a long time, so that is 273 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: an inherent feeling that you have against them. This is 274 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: a personal kind of hate. He is so disrespectful, he's 275 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: so awful, he's so entitled. The whole time, I was 276 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: really sitting there like wishing for a you know, kind 277 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: of kill Bill esque, like somebody just comes in and 278 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: chops off his feet, taking. 279 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Your tony side. 280 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I'm literally sitting there like this guy 281 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: is so fucking disrespectful, Just fucking kill him, Like why 282 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: why is he being allowed to babe like this? Like 283 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: what is going on that? 284 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Watching a woman executive hundreds of years from now? 285 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, still he talked over me. 286 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: He's just like wait and I'm like, please, God make. 287 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: It in so then boy Genius makes it a really 288 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: the salient point, which is, well, mister mediator, did you 289 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: know this ship was filled with illegal alien creatures that 290 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: have been brought to Earth in direct violation of several 291 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: international and corporate laws. You tanis like, okay, here's what 292 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: we'll do. Give me. Here's I'll give you twenty billion. 293 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: And I promised that the creatures were going to an 294 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: off world research facility. That's where they were going when 295 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: they crashed. They were never gonna come to Earth. They're 296 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: going to go to that facility, and then we don't 297 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. And she's like, yes, sounds great, 298 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: twenty million, that's good after the six week quarantine though, right, 299 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: which again the law is very clear on this six weeks. 300 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: We got to wait six weeks. And she's like, okay, 301 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: fifty billion annoying, and you pack them up right now. 302 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: And boy Genius was like, no, I must follow the laws. 303 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, not even about I've got I've got lots of money. 304 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: I think this is such an interesting, interesting moment because look, 305 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: the Utani boy genius of it all is so great, 306 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: and they are they have such good furious like Nemesis chemistry. 307 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: But what I'm most interested in this scene is the 308 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: notion of the Five and the way that the Five 309 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: govern because they just sent some random guy who I'm sorry, 310 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: nine out of ten chants that that motherfucker is a 311 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: sent first of all, probably the way that he was 312 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: overseeing it, the. 313 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: Lack of sense. 314 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm very interested that even in the terms of the 315 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: people who are in charge, right, Utani is one of 316 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: these corporations. Prodigy is one of these corporations that supposedly 317 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: run the company and the countries. But they sent like 318 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: a mediator, not a higher boss, not someone who seems 319 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: to have any kind of real ownership or control over 320 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: the situation, just a guy who stands there and says like, okay, 321 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: uh no, is this true. I just find it very interesting. 322 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: There's so much more I want to know about the 323 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: Five and how they are controlled and run. 324 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: It does give the idea that the other companies are 325 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: more powerful than waylan Utahi like, because between corporations makes sense. 326 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: But to your point, if it's two bosses of two 327 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: of the major spaces, then typically you would think that 328 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: there would at first be some kind of like let's 329 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: come together and talk about it before we. 330 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the other three would be involved to try 331 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: and talk about it, right. 332 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: I just thought it was really interesting at these two 333 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: what happens to the rest, So yeah, that is really interesting. 334 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: Karmen is a theory that Adam is puppeting everything, which 335 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: I find really intriguing. 336 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: I could read it. 337 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: Would be really interesting to see. 338 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: She's been looking at some of the frames and just 339 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: positioning and Adam always seems to sort of be behind 340 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: boy Genius and a sort of puppeting position, and then Boyd. 341 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: She mentioned way Genius is clothing this episode, it's particularly 342 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: like thready there's like a lot of strings hanging from it. 343 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: So she's on that theory right now, which I find 344 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: really interesting. 345 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: I really like that one. 346 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: So Marrow pulls you tany aside for a second and 347 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: he's like, and she's like, what's what's going on with 348 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: your mission? And he's like, I think there's a high 349 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: likelihood we get at least one creature back by end 350 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: of day. That's from his little slightly uh sneak in 351 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: mission and he tells his boss that you should also 352 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: know that Prodigy is up security on the island and 353 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: expectation that we would attack them frontal attack, and he 354 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: recommends destabilizing the island and getting the creatures out in 355 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: the chaos, an interesting line considering what comes next. Kurush 356 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: gets on the elevator with Morrow and let me just say, 357 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: I don't need this is just a this is a nitpick, 358 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: not about alien Okay. The trope where the character gets 359 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: on the elevator and you watch the doors closed, it's like, 360 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: I know the hand is coming in the door to 361 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: keep the door open, and then I just know that's 362 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen, so like just get to it anyway. Yeah, 363 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: so anyway, I just know I'm gonna see that hand 364 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: come in and stop the door. Kirse stops the door, 365 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: comes in the elevator, starts talking a bunch of shit, 366 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: calling Morrow almost human, since that a human that thinks 367 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: he's a machine. And then Marrow's like, well you're looking, yeah, 368 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: you're an out of date model. You're like a fucking 369 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: You're like a three year old toaster, Like what are 370 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: you even talking about? So they're just like roasting each 371 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: other and then Morrow is like, listen, you know what 372 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: I love about killing since is they have no pay, 373 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: they don't feel pain. You can just keep chopping them up, 374 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: and they're lucid the whole time, telling me everything I 375 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: want to know, little fucking tiny bits, and Kersh is like, oh, yeah, 376 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: you know, it's going to be really fun when you 377 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: figure out that you're still a man, that even though 378 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you have some like machine parts implanted in you, you're 379 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: still a guy whose eyeballs can be popped out. And 380 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: then you're like, I can't wait for them to fucking thrown. 381 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: I am good with this scene. I really really am. 382 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: Was so good together. 383 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: The thing I walked away thinking about most from this 384 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: scene is the idea that Okay, Kersh Knowsmorrow is like 385 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: in the kid's head, like he's aware, he's heard him 386 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: listening to the conversation, so that like this was such 387 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: a clear plan of attack. The way he fucks with 388 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: Marrow is the same way Marrow was fucking with the kid, Like. 389 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: It's the exact scene. 390 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: Let me completely destabilize you, let me get inside your head, 391 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: let me figure out what you know or think about me. 392 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: And the fact that he thinks like, oh, you're outdated 393 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: technology and you're not prepared like I think Marrow. So 394 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: for as munch of an advantage as he has. I 395 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: think by discounting Kurge, we're gonna see that table hurt 396 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: him like a lot come down the line once he 397 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: gets to the island himself. 398 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: That's it's really absolutely I can't wait to talk about 399 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: this much more. When we were going with cap, let's 400 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: take a quick Craig, will. 401 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: You rep we're rack. 402 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: We go to the lab where Dame reboots Nibs. Wendy's 403 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: there when Nibs wakes up and Nibs is like, I 404 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: feel fun, I feel great. I feel like I just 405 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: slept a lot. And then Wendy, who, like I guess, 406 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: has not been briefed on what's going on. 407 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 2: My biggest issue, this is my biggest issue. I feel 408 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: like Dame knows enough about Wendy and the way Wendy works. 409 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: It would be very easy to manipulate Wendy in the 410 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: situation and say, hey, Nibs was really struggling. She was 411 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: a danger to herself, she was a danger to others. Yeah, 412 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: we've had to go back in and you know, to 413 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: help her, we've taken away some of her memories of 414 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: her trauma. Isn't that what everybody would want? Blah blah, 415 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: blah and kind of set Wendy up to know this 416 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: has happened. When I realized they hadn't told Wendy, I 417 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, you guys are just dumb at this point, 418 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Like Dave, I don't know what is going on with you, Dave, 419 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: but this was always gonna blow up in your face. 420 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Wendy brings up all the troubling stuff the baby, do 421 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: you remember when you crashed out? Do you remember the 422 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: crash that we went to with all the remember that 423 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: really scared you? And Wendy is like super confused. And 424 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: now she's even more confused because she's realizing that she 425 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have information that everybody else has and why can't 426 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: she remember? 427 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: And it's making her immediately feel more crazy. Yeah, you're 428 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: probably gonna lead to a bad situation. 429 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: So this gets Wendy really upset and she realizes that 430 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: Damon Arthur must know something about this. We hear more 431 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: of Fu Boy Genius fucking podcast of what everybody's up to. 432 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Wendy looking out at the sea. Okay, slightly, yes, I. 433 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: Just want to say though it's painful, but truth, isn't 434 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: that like so real that even when you are like 435 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: a billionaire, and you have all this money and you 436 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: have all these people under your control. I feel like 437 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: being like, yeah, and now I have an active listening 438 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: base to my podcast who can never turn it off, 439 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: and he just brokeross it across the state. That's like, 440 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: it feels very real. It feels like deeply, deeply real. 441 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: It's really fucking nuts. Also sucks. It's just him reading 442 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: to your pan literally word for word anyway. 443 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: No no critical thought on it, no ideas about what 444 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: it means. Obviously, not interacting with the the art itself. 445 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: That's why this is all gonna go hardly wrong. 446 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Slightly is in the jungle with Moorrow in his ear, 447 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: basically telling him like, you gotta go in, you gotta 448 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: go in, you gotta do the mission now. Smee finds 449 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: him as Slightly doesn't want to talk. They talk about, 450 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're basically they talk around being what you know, 451 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: their existence right now, and sme thinks that, you know, 452 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: being a grown up sucks and we can't just play 453 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: like we used to as kids, and Slightly it's like, well, 454 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: right after I take care of this mysterious thing I 455 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: need to take care of, we're gonna play I promise 456 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and happy about that. Yeah, when me gave him. 457 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: A grown up hug, I was like, I wanted to cry. 458 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: I think the kids stuff is I understand that for 459 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: some people it's like not hitting that hard, but I 460 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: think when they play with the balance between like the 461 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: emotional vulnerability and openness of kids and kind of how 462 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: they are having to all grow up because of the 463 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: way that the adults around them are treating them, whether 464 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: it's you know, Wendy or whether it's me, or whether 465 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: it's most Hey, you know slightly with being kind of 466 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: manipulated by Morrow. It's just it's kind of heartbreaking to watch, 467 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: and I think it does bring some extra emotional layers. 468 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: I agree because Rosie, if you think about too, we 469 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: hear Dame tell Adam that like NIBBs was damaged before 470 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: they brought her into the program, like she has psychological 471 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: issues pre program, which is terrifying that they then have 472 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: sort of put her in this position. And given the 473 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: line from the book, we get the thin sticks out most, 474 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 3: which is like, yea, once they started to realize they 475 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: were growing up, Peter would like take them out. 476 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, thin you heard. 477 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: I think really sort of resonated with me this idea 478 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: of like, you know, we saw Dame's hubby get fired 479 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: as soon as he starts asking questions about like morals 480 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: and ethics are like, you could actually just get right 481 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: the fuck about it here, Like we don't need you 482 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: to be asking any questions really, And again, I just 483 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: think in a series that's particularly been about the horrors 484 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: women face and then a lot of that being about motherhood, 485 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 3: to bring it to children here it works for me 486 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: on a lot of levels. 487 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's welcome for me too. 488 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this, what should happen to 489 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the to the hybrids? Mostly shut them all off? I think, yeah, 490 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: but what should happen like you gain control of Prodigy? 491 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: You do what I what I do? I stop this 492 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: program immediately, and I do a leny mice of men 493 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: thing and go look at oh, look at the question over. 494 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: There, and then I shut them all off. Jay that 495 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: it's over. 496 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: I do. 497 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: I think. I'm just curious. 498 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: They said, like, okay, kids, you know, I think if 499 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: we don't traumatize them, give them some space to be 500 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: like go live. 501 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: But are they let mean, are they kids or as 502 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: as other characters in this have said, are they ais 503 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: that are programmed to respond in a certain way, and 504 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: they think that's are they chat They are people like, 505 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, how good is the programming? It's a really 506 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: good question. Mm hmmm. 507 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: I think you made the epically correct choice, Jason. I 508 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: think that is what should be done. I also think 509 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: if they were like crying and being like, no, please 510 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: don't turn me off, I would also like bet it 511 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: would be hard. 512 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying immediately choice, I just feel like we don't. 513 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the only way to make sure 514 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: that no more harm is done. Anyway, slightly fails to 515 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 1: get Joe Slash Hermit down to the lab to get 516 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: face hugged. He really tries, but he comes off as 517 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: a weirdo. But unfortunately, Hermit gets called to go on 518 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: patrol due to the heightened security on the island. He 519 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: goes on patrol with Bronsky and Siberian. They gossip about 520 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: what's going on. Hermit is asking questions. 521 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: And they also like, broke, could we just stay here? 522 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Like this is actually kind of a solid gig. 523 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're loving it. It's a steady paycheck. All you 524 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: do is walk through the jungle like nothing really bad 525 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: is happening and the moment, meanwhile, is asking questions that 526 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: are so obvious, like how far do you think we 527 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: are from the mainland? Does anybody's see any boats around here? Dummy? 528 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, please do some reconnaissance. 529 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, my guy. Siberian has to be like, hey, 530 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: don't fuck this up for us. Okay, don't down in 531 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: the lab. Wendy's continuing the language lessons with the alien 532 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: that is, and the alien's fucking big. 533 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Now it's happened. It's happened. 534 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: Kursh rives back on the island with Adam and boy Genius. 535 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: He calls Tootles to basically say, hey, go down there, 536 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: seed and water. The creatures run the next experiment on 537 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: the list. Okay, yeah, where's Curly? Can I talk to Curly? 538 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: And Tootles like, oh he's with Curly and uh smee. 539 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: But he wants He's so eager to do things on 540 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: his own that he's like, oh, I have no idea 541 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: where they are. I'll do it. I got it, I 542 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: got a boss. He goes down the lab. The Eye 543 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: remains watchful this whole time, watching everything for them with 544 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: a very keen gaze. 545 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: With the pizza slices we have to talk about the triangles. 546 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, yea, I saw them right, I'm not 547 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: crazy the witch. No, okay, it when we're on that 548 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: close up of the sheep. The eye, yes, is iris 549 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: is cut into like pizza slices, and a triangle comes 550 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: from where we can't see and back into the eye 551 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: and slots into place. 552 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: What the dissect part of it can. 553 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: Travel and move? 554 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: What did that mean. 555 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: For me? 556 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: Is the is it just optically look like an eye 557 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: and not necessarily function as one, Like I'm so well. 558 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: That it sees through even though it looks like a 559 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: traditional eye sees through multiple lenses like a flies, so 560 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: it would make sense if they were segmented out. Also, 561 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we got to talk about the eye 562 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: because last week, you know, we were talking about being 563 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: pro I we felt like the eye had done a 564 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: really good job trying to help that lady. And then 565 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: you know, that was the general consensus across most of 566 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: internet and also our discord. And it was only after 567 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: listening to the official pod that people kind of went, oh, 568 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: I guess, Noah, Holey was the eye was meant to 569 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: be distracting her. It wasn't meant to be helping her. 570 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: I think that we have to talk about it because 571 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: I think that is a failure in storytelling. No, No, 572 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: that's bad storytelling because I think it was unclear and 573 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: I think it was an It added an interesting complexity. Yeah, 574 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: it connects to the end. 575 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I think there are other things like that that I 576 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: want to talk about. Okay, So basically, so Tootles is 577 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: feeding all the animals and then he gets to the bugs. 578 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: But then the feeding shoot door just comes off in 579 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: his hands, clearly been tampered with the eye and the 580 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: sheep is like, yes, my plan coming together at least 581 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: seems like that. I'm now anthropomorphizing the sheep, and Tootles 582 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: does everything that you could possibly do wrong. You override 583 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: every safety door. He goes into the fucking door and 584 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: basically props it open with his foot. While he's in there, 585 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: the bu bugs stirring in the hive, and the sheep 586 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: hits the hands, knocking him over. He gets locked in 587 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: the fucking case with the bugs, and one thing leads 588 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: to another. The bug spraying with acid devour his face. 589 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Unclear if they actually eat him. 590 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: I think that just having fun, just like licking around. 591 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: The silk juice they might him tray. 592 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the food in the tray is all tech stuff, 593 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: so like it's like like, oh, this is perfect, it'll 594 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: destroy They melt him and they eat him. 595 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: And the eye and the bugs are all seemed to 596 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: be celebrating and just bad, bad stuff goes crazy here. 597 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: I will note for further to have Uh to table 598 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: in our conversation later that it made no sense to 599 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: me that alarms didn't go off all throughout the compound 600 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: as soon as Toodles was taken off line. That's dumb. 601 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Dame goes to see Wendy. Wendy's troubled about nibs. Uh 602 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: Dame tells her, listen, it's really complicated and we had 603 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: to reboot her. There was a glitch, and Wendy's getting 604 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: more and more and more upset. And Wendy is clearly 605 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: beginning to draw the inference that she's clearly beginning to 606 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: empathize with the specimens and see that she is a 607 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: specimen exactly. She is being studied in the lab. She 608 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: is being forced into choices that are not hers to make, 609 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: and she's not able to make decisions for her own 610 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: life up to and including her own memories, potentially has 611 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: happened to NIBBs, and she begins to think, maybe the 612 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: glitch in this situation is you, Dame, and the others 613 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: like you. And Wendy says that she wants to she 614 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: wants to see the world as it truly is and 615 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: to push past like human emotion and to try to 616 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: see it in this kind of dispassionate way, and she 617 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: thinks that humans inability to do that means that maybe 618 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: they are the glitch, or she might mean specifically Dame, 619 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: but she seems to be also making a larger statement 620 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: about humanity. Arthur is packing to leave. Toodles is dead 621 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: on the security screen. He doesn't see it. Hermit comes 622 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: to see him and basically is like asking all these 623 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: questions about Wendy, the same kind of questions, like how 624 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: do I charge her? You know she's safe here. I 625 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: just want to ask you this, And so Arthur is 626 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: like makes a dramatic stage turn to the security cameras 627 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: twenty second slow motion turned to the camera, and then 628 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: turns back to Joe and says, oh, yes, sir, it 629 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: is very safe here. He couldn't be sicker. Say let 630 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: me show you how safe everyone is. I'll show you 631 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: the synthetics, including your sister's vitals on the screen right now. 632 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: And then he types on a notepad like get her 633 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: out of here, here's the boat code. And then he 634 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: turns off Wendy's tracker so that Arthur can potentially be 635 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: successful getting getting went out of here. And then when 636 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Hermit leaves, Arthur notices now the first time that Tootles 637 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: is offline, slightly goes down to the lab. Kersh is 638 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: watching all of this on the security cams. It's you know, 639 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: he must know by now that Tootles is dead, but 640 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: he has no reaction to this. It's unclear truly if 641 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: he knows the Tootles is dead, but he must anyway, Yeah, 642 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: slightly lose his nerve at the keypad, but luckily Arthur 643 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: shows up, and Arthur making the worst decision you could 644 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: pop is the last day, Like you're done, your shift 645 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: is over. This is like you work at a pizza 646 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: restaurant and somebody comes in at ten fifty five, you 647 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: close it eleven and is like give me three pizzas. No, 648 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: you're done, bro, what do you Why are you here? Anyway, 649 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: he goes down there, he goes in the lab again. 650 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: Kurse watching it all, Arthur sees that Toodles is dead, 651 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: and Arthur just does a bunch of He goes in 652 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: the bug pen. Dumb Tootles is clearly fucked. He's trying 653 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: to lift Toodles. Must weigh four hundred pounds, I means. 654 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: Okay, So this is another thing that is that they 655 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: are doing a lot of interesting things they were. I'm like, 656 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 2: was that a choice by the actor who plays at 657 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: that to act like you weigh like that? Is that 658 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: the nature of what they are? Is it something that 659 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: they built? Then yeah, I mean because it's just But 660 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: also then you see the. 661 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: Face, it's like it's there's a lot of metal and 662 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: plastic and ceramic components like that. It must be heavy, 663 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: must be really heavy. And Arthur sees the bugs stirring, 664 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: and then he looks over and notices that the egg 665 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: door is open. And now it's all going to be bad. 666 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: The eye and the zeno more for watching this like 667 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: they are watching like Glengarry Glenn Ross on Broadway at 668 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: the edges of their I gotta say, and they're like, 669 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: oh baby, it's gonna have it. And slightly and now 670 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: outside the lab is locked in and it's like I 671 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: have to do this for my family. Arthur's like, but 672 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: I have a family, No, bro, you're getting face. It 673 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: happens quickly, an incredible like like five meter leap by 674 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: the face hugger bang right onto Arthur's face, and it's 675 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: and it's done. Kursh is watching this on the iPad 676 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: with Boy Genius in the helicopter. He's watching very dispassionately. 677 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: Boy Genius seems to notice some flicker of reaction cross 678 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: across Chris's face, like, hey, you good, and Kursh's like, 679 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm doing great, and then goes right back 680 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: to his iPad, slightly goes into the lab. He drags 681 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: Arthur away into events so that, as per Morrow's instructions, 682 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: he can hide the body until like we're ready for 683 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: that hatching. 684 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: Classically you want as animal fan event. So that's great. 685 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: And meanwhile the bugs are now free flying all around 686 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: the lab and so like he slightly has to hide 687 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: from these bugs which would love to melt need him. 688 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: And as this is all happening, we have a close 689 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: up pan on the sheep who is clearly like, my 690 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: moment is coming, my vengeance, My moment of revenge is coming. 691 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 2: The Eye sheep CG is so good because that motherfucker 692 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: look nefarious like he's looking and he is just so happy. 693 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: That is that I like when they zoom in the 694 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: breath on the glass and he's just like. 695 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: Also again, just have to say like, I think that 696 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: I think the way they were imagining that moment hitting 697 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: was probably like if you'd have perceived the Eye to 698 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: have been the orchestra of the whole time, if that 699 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: narrative moment that was meant to hit last episode hit properly, 700 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: you'd probably be feeling like, what this guy's like evil? 701 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: But right now I'm still just like, yeah, man, he's 702 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 2: just trying to get out. He's just trying to get 703 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: out of this situation where they're tormenting and torturing him. 704 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 2: Like I'm still on his side because also as well, 705 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: something I will say, I know that we're going to 706 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: get into the tech of it all because the lab 707 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: is badly built. There are no alarms. Why when one 708 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: of the trackers goes off on one of the kids, 709 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: does it not as immediately Now, I will say there 710 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: is a horrible dark version of that, which is that 711 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: certain people on the island would want to turn off 712 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: those trackers so they could do whatever they wanted to 713 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: those kids, which again leads to that harsh, sad, real 714 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 2: world kind of equivalent that this is drawing. But also 715 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: I will say, you know what, I think about a lot. 716 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: It brings me a lot of joy in life when 717 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: I think about it, and I think about it a 718 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: lot every time I watch a sci fi and think, well, 719 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: that wasn't very well made, or if I had all 720 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 2: that money, I would do a better job. Do you 721 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 2: remember when they did the Tesla cyber truck demonstration and 722 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: they were showing how the windows were like bulletproof, and 723 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: then he threw a baseball at it and it just 724 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: shatted the window. I think about that a lot, because 725 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 2: that was the moment that was meant to impress people 726 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: who were consumers. It was also supposed to showcase to 727 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: a board that the thing worked like. There is such 728 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: an arrogance and assumption in those spaces about people's own 729 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: intelligence and what they can do that I actually think 730 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: how badly the island is run is probably quite realistic. 731 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: I will say that I think that it is. I 732 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: think that some of the storytelling is not up to snuff. 733 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: Of the rest of the show in a way that 734 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: makes things ambiguous in ways that they shouldn't be. Yes, 735 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: like the eye distracting not helping is small, but like 736 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: is one of those moments where you're like, it was 737 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: not told clearly, and it was. I think that the 738 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: fact that it was a big story point early that 739 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: Boy Genius can watch and hear and everything that is 740 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: being and heard and said by the senses being recorded 741 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah, And I think it's I think 742 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: it's I think it's weird that when Toodles dies there 743 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: aren't a media alarms that go off. I think it's 744 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: I think these things. 745 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 2: Are meant to cost a billion dollars each at least, 746 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: Like the fact that he dies that should have immediately 747 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: set it off. Also, why are you sending children to 748 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 2: do Why are you sending billion dollar children robots to 749 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: do chores? 750 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: Let's go to a quick breaking with your upon how 751 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: well I do believe here's my Now, I'll go into 752 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: theory land. I think that you know, we've already seen 753 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: one bit of corporate espionage, which is Boy Genius turning 754 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: the chief engineer, one of the engineers of the Imagine 755 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 1: now right to his side and getting him to crash 756 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: a ship onto Prodigy Island. I think that listen Utani's 757 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: makes sense. I think that there is probably some like 758 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: hidden programming in Kersh that has been activated, yes, give 759 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: him a spy for Utani, and that whether Marrow knows 760 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: it or not, they are potentially working on the same side, 761 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: unaware of the fact that both are doing that. And 762 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: I think that you could read a lot of Kersh's 763 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: like I think there's a world in which Kersh nerfed 764 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: the trackers and all the stuff so that no alarms 765 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: will go off, which would be cool, but also like 766 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: I need that scene, like I kind of need, but 767 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what's going on. I would I lean 768 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: towards that that Kirsh rather than Kersh making an independent 769 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: decision that like, We're going to rise up and kill 770 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: the Masters with the help of the you know, I'm 771 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: tired of being a machine that works for a man. 772 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to join arms with my alien brethren and 773 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: we're going to take over. I am more inclined to 774 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: believe that this is one of Utani's fallbacks. Yeah, yeah, 775 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: and that the chaos that is going to happen on 776 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: the island when when Morrow says here's what I think 777 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: you should do. I think you should I think we 778 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: should cause chaos. I think Utani took that advisement and 779 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 1: ran with it and used her as using her other 780 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: agent to cause the chaos. That's what I think you think. 781 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: Do you think Kirsh is a Utani agent? 782 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I think he works unknowingly, That's what Jason's saying. 783 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: Like, well, I mean unknowingly, who knows? Like knowingly. I 784 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: think one thing we know about Utani is they make sense, right, 785 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: and they seem to be the prime producer and probably 786 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: the only company that has the rights to make sense. 787 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: And we also know that Kersh is an old model, 788 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: has been stated by divers other characters. He's been around 789 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: a while, right, So I think that it only makes sense, 790 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: like if you're Utani and we see this with tech 791 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: companies now, like there's a reason why, I say, other 792 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: countries are like, we don't want to use Windows, we 793 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: don't want to use Mac. We're there's a reason why 794 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: in this country where like DGI drones made in China 795 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: are now banned. It's for this exact reason that they 796 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: I would imagine that it would make sense for Utani 797 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: to implant something in all of their sense that if 798 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: they happen to get into a sensitive position, they can 799 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: then be triggered and can then leak all the information 800 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: back to their masters. And I think that's what Kursh's doing. 801 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes the conversation and the elevator really intriguing 802 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 3: because it's one of the first thing Marro says to 803 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: Curis is like, oh, you have like babysit your replacements essentially, 804 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: and if he's like, you know, if they're essentially of 805 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 3: the same company, you know, they're designed of the same space. 806 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 3: And again this idea of chaos coming from the same points, 807 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: the fact that it's you Tani, a woman led like corporation. 808 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: If we can bring back the horrors of women again 809 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 3: through Utani, I will absolutely scream with joy, Like I 810 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 3: really really appreciate sort of the layers we're getting throughout 811 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: this series, you know, thinking even just. 812 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: About like Curley's previous role. 813 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 3: I hope we get more of her next week because 814 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 3: this whole like vying for attention and supremacy sort of 815 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 3: situation that we've seen with the other kids this episode, I. 816 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: Think really speaks to her character. 817 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: And if Wendy's gonna go off and do her own 818 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: thing and run away with her brother possible next episode. 819 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: Really would love. 820 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 3: Between Curly and Wendy or team up with his amore. 821 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 3: Her brother was not asking questions this episode. He was like, yeah, 822 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: she was like, yeah, what if I would like to 823 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: be here? Like what if I'm enjoying. 824 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: I want to learn how to you know, speak to 825 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: his animal and do my little thing. But yeah, this 826 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: is a very interesting place that and kind of time 827 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 2: that we are in, because this really could shift what 828 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: we know about pretty much of all of Alien And 829 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,439 Speaker 2: I do think the notion that you Tanny is out 830 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: here hunting these creatures down and has specific wants and 831 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 2: reasons for them and is willing to spend fifty billion 832 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: dollars to get them back, is incredibly intriguing. And Yeah, 833 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm really excited to see where it goes. 834 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: I think you guys have really touched on the stuff 835 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: that I think is most interesting from this episode. And 836 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm just really intrigued to see if they can stick 837 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: the landing because there's two more episodes left that part. 838 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: We don't know if there's going to be a second season, 839 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: and they either have to destroy the entire landscape and 840 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 2: universe that they set up in the next two episodes 841 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: with pure chaos to get us back to the place 842 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 2: that we know before Alien begins, or they're going to 843 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 2: have to establish the second season is going to be 844 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 2: a direct follow on and we will learn more then. 845 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 2: So I'm worried it don't feel like a finished story. 846 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason, So I want to ask you, like, what 847 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: do you think we need in the penn ultimate episode 848 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 3: to set us up for a solid finale? 849 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 2: Great question. 850 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: I think we need. I think we I think that 851 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: we need I think we need to understand by that 852 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: point where all the characters loyalties lie and who's working 853 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: for who. There's less ambiguity on that In that regard, 854 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: I think we need to understand. I don't know. I 855 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: kind of feel like we need to understand what you 856 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: tany and or prodigies thoughts about what they could do 857 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: with these. 858 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, because they are such a high risk proposition. 859 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: They're illegal, they're dangerous, their blood is made of acid. 860 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: They are the ultimate weapon. But also, you guys already 861 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: own countries and continents, So what would you need an 862 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 2: ultimate weapon for? Is it a terraforming thing? Like kind 863 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: of what they touched on an alien best Predator. I 864 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 2: don't know, I'm in I think you're right, Jason, I 865 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 2: really need to know why they want them. 866 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think we need to figure out 867 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: a way to get out of the story where that. 868 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I remain convinced. I feel like they're going 869 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: to nuke the island from space all the end of it. 870 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because did I did think that was white? 871 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: Does all this none of this stuff exists? You know? 872 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's going to be nuked for morbid, 873 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: It's the only way to be sure. And I feel 874 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: like they're going to do that. 875 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 2: When we're running around with his Animore just killing everyone 876 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 2: on the island. I mean, I would love to see 877 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 2: it would be crazy, but maybe we get a little 878 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 2: bit of action like that. 879 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about what about you, dul What do you 880 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: think we'll make for a I don't know, a landed ending? Yeah. 881 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking about penultimate episodes and how I often 882 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 3: feel they're more important than the finale. To me, a 883 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 3: great penultimate episode almost feels like a finale because when 884 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 3: you gither, you're like, wait, what happens? Like, how how 885 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: could there pause that? What happens next, Like I think, 886 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 3: like I'm trying to think of a good one, Like 887 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 3: is it season two Game of Thrones where the penultimate 888 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 3: episode is the big battle in the. 889 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 2: Usually would do the penal as the big action episode 890 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 2: and then the finale. 891 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 3: There's all of this build up to the battle, but 892 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 3: the fallout is what the finale should be. And if 893 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: that's the case, then what you want is the sort 894 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: of like chaotic, almost Jurassic Park esque episode. I think 895 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 3: that's what I'm looking for in my penultimate. It's like, yeah, 896 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 3: the creatures are out, We're all trying to figure out 897 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 3: how to survive. I think mass death is necessary to 898 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 3: your point, we know we're coming to a stopping point, 899 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 3: and we know that where this show ends and where 900 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 3: Alien picks up, or at least we assume, you know, 901 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 3: they're pretty close together. They're only a year apart, so 902 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 3: a lot needs to change before we get to that point. 903 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think we need a lot of 904 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 3: characters out of here. And all I have to say 905 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: is me better survive. 906 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm not pretty. I know I'm sweet as a sweet, 907 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 2: sweet sweet boy. Yeah, I do think we could be 908 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 2: with the chaos element. I do think next week could 909 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 2: be an action heavy episode where everything kind of gets 910 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: decimated and then we see the fallout, we see where 911 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 2: the curse is kind of a He does seem like 912 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: a David, you know, a linearly connect, linear connection to 913 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: a David, and the kind of curiosity he has feels 914 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: like that, So maybe that could be the connection as 915 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: well to Utani. But yeah, I think that you're right. 916 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: Next episode death, chaos, alien action, and then probably a 917 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 2: finale that tries to establish how any of that gets 918 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 2: cleared up, whether it be nuke from space or otherwise. 919 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: Well, in the next episode of X ray Vision, we're 920 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: diving into another edition of X ray Vision group chat Exert. 921 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 1: We'll see and of course that's it for this episode. 922 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Yeah bye bye. 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