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Speaker 1: he here are your host, Bow Bishop and Nathan Ziggura

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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily merely Bow Gibb A here z out? Boy?

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Speaker 1: Did he picked a great week to be off. He's

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Speaker 1: done this to us like three times. He did this

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Speaker 1: then the Acquisition of Watson or I think he was

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Speaker 1: for the UM for the first time that that was.

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Speaker 1: It was like, oh, we're on a plane. I think

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Speaker 1: He's out this week, which is a good job out

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Speaker 1: that many of you are out there feeling the same way.

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Speaker 1: And it's just me speaking handed Lee. It's exhausting. It's exhausting, Gibby.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is you can say anything on

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Speaker 1: how this is going to play out, because there was

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Speaker 1: so much nonsense on this. UM. It's like there's it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even matter who did it. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: call everybody out who does says incorrect things, but there

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Speaker 1: these are check mark people. Um, there's there's a check

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Speaker 1: mark one that I see right now where it's where

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Speaker 1: the last line says. UM. If Suel Robinson recommends a

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Speaker 1: two game suspension, Goodell can add it up to eight, ten,

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Speaker 1: seventeen or whatever that he has the final say. No,

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Speaker 1: he does not have the final say. He has the

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Speaker 1: final say if there's an appeal process. And let's remember

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Speaker 1: that this is a that Robinson is a jointly appointed

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Speaker 1: independent arbiter of this and so if if Goodell undermines that,

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Speaker 1: this thing is gonna play out. I don't think Adel

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Speaker 1: exactly where it is on appeal. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the NFL wouldn't appeal. The NFL would accept whatever she says.

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Speaker 1: It would be Watson and the NFL p A who

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Speaker 1: would appeal provided that happens. UM. But This is an

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Speaker 1: example of the stuff that's out there that just keeps

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Speaker 1: you know, Look, it's our job to chase it down. Um.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we do the show here in the building, so

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Speaker 1: we have we have information that we believe in based

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Speaker 1: on that, but but also just the daily grind of

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Speaker 1: the type of things that could come up. I think

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Speaker 1: that that's probably as good as you're gonna find on

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Speaker 1: where are all of this is? And speaking of Graziano

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Speaker 1: um he uh was he mentioned this to us yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but just reiterating it. Um. Watson will be represented today

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Speaker 1: by his attorney, Rusty Harden, will argue the facts of

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Speaker 1: the case on Watson's behalf. During the hearings, the NFL

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Speaker 1: which is that Watson should be suspended for at least

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Speaker 1: the full year. This is Graziano's reporting on this. From

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brant In Deshaun Watson's disciplinary hearing, my senses Watson's

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Speaker 1: counsel will not only bring up behavior of certain owners,

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Speaker 1: The NFL p A only brings in Kessler for its

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Speaker 1: know how she's going to react to that, um, but

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Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, I do imagine the

427
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Speaker 1: hearing is going to be done, if not today, by

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Speaker 1: the end of the week, and then it's just a

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Speaker 1: question of how long it's going to take her to

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Speaker 1: come to a decision, which could take one day, could

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Speaker 1: take one week, It could take one month. We we

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Speaker 1: just don't know, all right. The only thing I would

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Speaker 1: push back there um on Jake is the notion at

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Speaker 1: one point, I'm pretty sure he said that I think

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Speaker 1: Watson would have taken the ten games. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that to be true. I don't think so. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that to be true that Watson would have taken

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Speaker 1: the ten games. I don't think that he would have

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Speaker 1: signed off on that. That's I think that that is

440
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Speaker 1: a far bigger number than he or anyone in his

441
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Speaker 1: camp would have signed off on in any sort of negotiation.

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Speaker 1: That that number is too pick. But mostly everything else

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Speaker 1: there is kind of the way where we are at

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Speaker 1: this point. And quite frankly, folks, if you pay attention

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Speaker 1: to it, nobody knows. Jake's plugged in as anybody and

446
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Speaker 1: and he doesn't know exactly how this could go. Could

447
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Speaker 1: it be today, could it be the tomorrow, It could

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Speaker 1: be the end of the week. No, nobody knows what's

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Speaker 1: the penalty gonna be. Nobody knows. There's all this reporting,

450
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Speaker 1: and I think the stuff in the Wall Street Journal

451
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Speaker 1: over the weekend was was probably pretty on point of

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Speaker 1: the NFL's position on this. But I think you also

453
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Speaker 1: have to remember that when something like that is printed

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Speaker 1: and put out there, it's oftentimes done to set a

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Speaker 1: narrative around something, uh, potentially to say, hey, this is

456
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Speaker 1: what this is what we would like for it to be,

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Speaker 1: but we will settle for this. It's sometimes a negotiating point.

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Speaker 1: And I asked Dan about that yesterday when he was

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Speaker 1: on with us, and said, you know, is this a

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Speaker 1: jumping off point or is this the bare minimum? And

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Speaker 1: he felt jumping off points, so, um, well, we'll kind

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Speaker 1: of see. But the the idea, the reality here is

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Speaker 1: is there's there's not a whole lot for for anybody

464
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Speaker 1: in terms of what this thing could look like or

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Speaker 1: what the course of the next day or so could

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Speaker 1: look like. So that's where it is, um. And the

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Speaker 1: only thing I would push back on is the notion

468
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Speaker 1: of Watson would have been a okay with tim Games,

469
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Speaker 1: because I don't I don't think that was ever ever

470
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Speaker 1: in kids camp would have ever settled for something, nor

471
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Speaker 1: would he nor would he. I mean, there's if you

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Speaker 1: listen to everything that he's said on this matter, everything

473
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Speaker 1: that his camp has said on the matter. UM, there's

474
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Speaker 1: really no examples where they would sign up for that

475
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Speaker 1: long of a suspension in any sort of negotiation. So uh,

476
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Speaker 1: that's where that is. UH. Some news here out of

477
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Speaker 1: the NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers have offered a quality have

478
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Speaker 1: extended qualifying offers to call in Sexton and r J Nemhart.

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Speaker 1: So next Sexton getting extended that qualifying offer be fun. Fun.

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Speaker 1: On another side of things, be fun off season for

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Speaker 1: them is they try to maybe skip a step in

482
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Speaker 1: their rebuild, UM and it's what now not a rebuild

483
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Speaker 1: but rather a built and put themselves in position to

484
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Speaker 1: UM to be contenders maybe sooner than later. Do they

485
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Speaker 1: do that? So they could turn around and potentially trade

486
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Speaker 1: him because any would be he's had a fixed number

487
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Speaker 1: and it allows like to negotiate for a long term

488
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Speaker 1: deal if you're trading him or could. I don't know

489
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Speaker 1: what the market. I've listened to a lot of people

490
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Speaker 1: UM kind of in in the lead up to this,

491
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Speaker 1: and Kyrie Irving opted in this morning. So that doesn't

492
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Speaker 1: necessarily mean that he's guaranteed to be back in Brooklyn,

493
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Speaker 1: but it's more likely that he is than he isn't

494
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Speaker 1: UM I don't know what the market is for Sexton.

495
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Speaker 1: I actually think he's exactly what they need. If he

496
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Speaker 1: could wrap his head around coming off the bench and being,

497
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Speaker 1: you know, scoring fifteen points a game off the bench

498
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Speaker 1: and being an instant offense guy. I think that's perfect

499
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Speaker 1: if he could wrap his head around that. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys who have done that to a very

501
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Speaker 1: high level. I mean, Tyler Herrow does that for Miami.

502
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Speaker 1: Of course, twenty one a game coming off the bench

503
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Speaker 1: for Miami is vital to what they're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: I think he could have that type of impact off

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Speaker 1: the bench, an instant offense type of guy. You just

506
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Speaker 1: can't play him in Garland. At the same time, it's

507
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Speaker 1: not gonna work. The Colins Sexton injury from this past

508
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Speaker 1: season is one that I still cannot get my head around.

509
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Speaker 1: He had a torn meniscus. Torn meniscus shouldn't put you

510
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Speaker 1: out for the entire season, and yet it did. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't. A torminiscus timetable is not six months. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I would be foolish for me to weigh

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Speaker 1: in on and get into that because I don't know

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Speaker 1: the specifics of it. It It wasn't something I was following

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Speaker 1: that closely. But yeah, I mean, I think the cool

516
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Speaker 1: thing for them is is, you know, if they hit

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Speaker 1: on a bogie sexon back in the mix, what do

518
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Speaker 1: you do with lavert? They can position themselves to not

519
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Speaker 1: only be in the running, but can can maybe skip

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Speaker 1: a step in this rebuilt Let's remember how good they

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Speaker 1: were before the all the injuries. You know, they were

522
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Speaker 1: a top four team in the East before all the injuries.

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Speaker 1: So if if that can be the case again, you're

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Speaker 1: right there, and that leads to a very fun, fun

525
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Speaker 1: winter here, uh in northeast Ohio. I just so I looked.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up m D three six weeks to

527
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Speaker 1: three months. That still would have put you back in

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Speaker 1: time for the playoffs and down the stretch, especially when

529
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Speaker 1: you had guys just fallen by the wayside. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They make a lot more money than me, and they

531
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Speaker 1: have very good people want to be the Only thing

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Speaker 1: I think is you just want to be cautious with

533
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Speaker 1: somebody that young. You know, just be ultra cautious with it,

534
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Speaker 1: make sure you get it done right. That one will

535
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: always I mean flying out. He was coming into his

536
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: own He can score the basket, sure, but he was

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Speaker 1: also you know, it's also one of those things where

538
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Speaker 1: like you saw him around constantly, like getting shots up

539
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: afterwards and everything, like he stayed engaged the whole time.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he's got the perfect work I think,

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00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: and everything you'd want in a guy. So yeah, but that, um,

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Speaker 1: they got a chance. They're building it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a coincidence. Adam Silver at the start of the

544
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: draft pointing out the Golden State built. Everything that they've

545
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Speaker 1: done through the draft, I mean that that's on purpose.

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00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: You know this, whether it's in l A where that

547
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: is just a disaster, or with the Lakers or the Nets,

548
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: like this three superstar thing, it didn't work. It's not working.

549
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: It worked with Lebron in Miami, but other than that,

550
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: it's fallen flat. So you gotta you gotta do it

551
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: through the draft, and they've done a very good job

552
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Speaker 1: of doing that. We'll get you updated on the thoughts

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Speaker 1: had the UM. I think I told you that my

563
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Speaker 1: wife likes the chipmunks. So we have Charlie the chipmunk's

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Speaker 1: running around. He's got probably a bunch of it's probably

565
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Speaker 1: like a dozen of them running around in there. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we had a last night. My my wife, you know,

567
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Speaker 1: went out and did I don't know whatever women do

568
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Speaker 1: when they go out with their friends. I think she

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Speaker 1: went to a concert or something so that she goes

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Speaker 1: to this. It was me and it was guy's night

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Speaker 1: for the boys, and so we were we were sitting

572
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Speaker 1: around outside and a an old friend was reintroduced to

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Speaker 1: the backyard habitat, and that is Hank the hawk. He's returned. Um.

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00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: Now what you're talking about is an apex predator. So

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Speaker 1: now what you have is a meadow full of squirrels

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Speaker 1: and an apex predator ready and willing and as they say, well,

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Speaker 1: we were witnessed to exactly that. Yeah. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a little mutual bomaha. Um, you know, right in direct hit.

579
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Speaker 1: We've got these black squirrels out there and there's there,

580
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Speaker 1: they're everywhere, and he got one. It was a direct

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Speaker 1: hit for Hank. And I'm thinking Hank is gonna probably

582
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Speaker 1: thin these boys out pretty quickly. He's gonna sit here

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Speaker 1: on a perch and crush over the course of the

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Speaker 1: next hawk after a squirrel chipmunk. I've never seen because

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Speaker 1: we have them like and I'm always like my one dog. Well,

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Speaker 1: the black squirrels aren't as big as like there's some

587
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Speaker 1: bushy squirrels around here, like the gray and brown ones

588
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Speaker 1: that get pretty big. The black squirrels aren't that big.

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Speaker 1: They basically look kind of look like glorified rats. Oh

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Speaker 1: I know my dogs. You have those guys. Yeah, my dog,

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Speaker 1: both my dogs chased one down and took care of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I had, yeah, and I had to take care

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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. Well Hank took care of this one.

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Speaker 1: That was the end of that. Was it right in

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Speaker 1: front of the boys. Now, I was in the meadow,

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Speaker 1: was a ways down, so it was it was down away,

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Speaker 1: so we couldn't exactly see. Uh, we didn't see all

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Speaker 1: the carnage, but we saw enough to know that nature

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Speaker 1: versus nurtured lodge nature always wins. And how does that

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Speaker 1: explanation go to Bootsy? Oh? I think he was okay

601
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Speaker 1: with it. He's not a big fan of them anyway.

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Speaker 1: He can differentiate between the animals that he likes and

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Speaker 1: the ones that he don't. And he's not a big

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Speaker 1: fan of the squirrels. If the chipmunk were to disappear

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Speaker 1: with and that'll take that'll take some pinpoint accuracy out

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Speaker 1: of Hank because the chipmunks are more in like the boulders,

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Speaker 1: So that would he'd have to really be on his

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Speaker 1: game to land one of those guys. Do you have owls? No,

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Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't seen any of those. I haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: We have those giant woodpeckers. You got you have those

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Speaker 1: affiliated woodpeckers. I've seen some of those guys. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're carnivorous. I feel like that could bring down

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Speaker 1: a telephone pole. Yeah, in fact, there's no question that could. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely could. Those things are. They're like b be twos.

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Speaker 1: He would be two bombers. Those things are huge. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're like this big. Yeah, they're no good, no,

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Speaker 1: no good at all. I think I said that right affiliated?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Affiliated? Woodpeckers said it with emphasis. Now

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Speaker 1: you took the emphasis off, so I'm not sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had it affiliated. That's right. Yeah, they're big, they're

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Speaker 1: big boys. They'll do some damage. You want to put

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Speaker 1: up some sort of a what are those things that

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Speaker 1: people put up that have the roofs without the roofs

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Speaker 1: that are just the rails They put them up around,

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Speaker 1: you know, in their backyards and stuff. Pergola. I've got

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Speaker 1: a steel one. Well that's a little bit different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so steel you're gonna be safe. But you put up

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Speaker 1: one of the wood ones. Those guys are taking that out. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They in prime real estate. There's no question. Um. All right,

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Speaker 1: I thought she was with Fox, maybe on the sidelines.

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636
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Speaker 1: putting together for Thursday night football, so I'm not sure

637
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing either. I think that I think

638
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: that really all that matters is the game. That's it,

639
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think you just want the

640
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: game to be great. And I do think that that

641
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Joe and those guys had a great product on NFL

642
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Network with that pregame show that they used to do.

643
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: That was a great product. And I think that that

644
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: there's what you want. Like I'm guessing those games are

645
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 1: gonna kick at eight twenty again or something like that

646
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: on Thursday nights. What you're hopeful is is that you know,

647
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: starting it, you really need something that goes from seven

648
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: to kick off that sets the table for it. And

649
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: it's really probably the only it's probably the only game

650
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: on the schedule. I think it even works better than

651
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: Monday Night because it's Thursday and you can almost play

652
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: it right into the weekend where you can get the

653
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: college game day type experience. It really feels like it's

654
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: only Thursday because Sunday, even on the Sunday night games,

655
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you're watching football all day. Like it's not like, hey,

656
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: let's get down there and tailgate and enjoy the night.

657
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: You really get that feeling with Thursday night Football. So

658
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: I think you want something that you can take on

659
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: the road like they did, like Joe and those guys

660
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: did last year. That was a great show. I think

661
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: you try to do that. I think Chris I can

662
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: do that. I'm just not sure where she's been the

663
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: last couple of years. I don't know. I'll find out

664
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: here in a second. But like Tony Gonzalez got taken

665
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: off of network pregames because it was too vanilla. Yeah,

666
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: he's not much for saying anything, you know, He's he

667
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: could say some German could be great. Marshawn. I don't know.

668
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I think those are gonna be taped things as my

669
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: hunch on that that they're like vignettes. Yeah, it could be.

670
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the case because don't they have um

671
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: isn't fits Magic involved in something? So I think he's

672
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: going to be a part of it too. Uh. She

673
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: was Chrissa Thompson working for Fox because she's so she

674
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: was she's she was at Fox. She came up with

675
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Best Dam and then that show went away, and then

676
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: Best Dam Sports Show, then that went away. Then she

677
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: went to bt N like she was doing bt N

678
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Games for a while. Then she hooked up with ESPN

679
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: and she was at ESPN for a short stint and

680
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: then went back to Fox. But I'm not sure what

681
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: she was. She was joined Fox Sports for FS one

682
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: launch in two thousand thirteen, so she she was there

683
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: for nine years almost Um. She began on FS one

684
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: as a host on Fox Sports Live, became a presenter

685
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: for Fox NFL Kickoff. In two thousand eighteen, she replaced

686
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Katie Nolan as the host of NFL Films Presents on

687
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: FS one. Okay, yeah, that seems about right I thought.

688
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of us thought that

689
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Kay Adams would be the play there. But maybe she

690
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: wants to go to the entertainment world, which is far

691
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: more lucrative with far less work. Yeah, it would appear

692
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: that way. I'm a little surprised. I don't know what

693
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: the next steps are for k Adams, but um, I

694
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: just I feel like it's kind of a hodgepodge of

695
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: radio host or for hosts for this Amazon Prime Thursday

696
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: night game, And I don't know what to make of it.

697
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I think it I think all that matters is you

698
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: get it to Alan Kirk, then they'll they'll crush it.

699
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that has the potential to be

700
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: one of the best game crews there is because Herbie'll

701
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: do his homework, He's incredibly likable, he's really good, and

702
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Al's Al. So you're not gonna do better than that.

703
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: That's as good as anybody. Man, That's as good as anything.

704
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: So that will be a very very good group. I

705
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: have no interest in what this next thing. July three,

706
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and Levy On Bell have signed contracts for

707
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Eeveryweight boxing exhibition at Crypto dot com Arena in l A.

708
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: Are we sure it's still crypto dot com and Crypto

709
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: dot Com still afford that naming. It's a great question.

710
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: Really have kind of stopped hearing about that. No, Yeah,

711
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: that didn't didn't that that didn't go well particularly. Um So,

712
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: from what I understand that there are two YouTubers that

713
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: are at the top of the bill of this, so

714
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: people are gonna pay to watch two YouTube clowns fight.

715
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: And then it goes back to the Friday song last week.

716
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: Here's those type of people. So here's here's the thing.

717
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that I never would have guessed, like

718
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: when the celebrity boxing thing boom happened. I never thought

719
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: it would last this long, that people are still paying

720
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: for this and somehow like people are gonna go to

721
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: a crypto dot com arena the old Staples Center to

722
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: watch this nonsense. I don't know what what what's the

723
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: price point of these tickets? Eight bucks? It should be, Yeah,

724
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: it should be we're gonna pay you eight dollars to

725
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: commit to watch this. Yeah. No, I just and I

726
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: think it's beneath Adrian Peterson. I mean, he's a first

727
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: ballot gold jacket a p. That's it, Like there's no

728
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: lady on bell. I mean that just comes down to

729
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: one really really bad decision. That just comes down to

730
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: one really bad decay for him, and and the when

731
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: he look I think like Swaggy Peas on this card.

732
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: There's all sorts sorts of blue Face versus Nick Young

733
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: Swaggy Pa the Staples Center, so Swaggy Peas the main

734
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: event would appear that way. I gotta know what the

735
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: what the cost of these are? It can't be more

736
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: than eight bucks? You sure? That's my guess. Let's see,

737
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: it can't be. It can't be. I mean it's probably

738
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going I'm little low, but it can't

739
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: be more than like twenty two bucks. Like, who's going

740
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: to this social gloves? No more talk, that's what they're

741
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: calling it. Okay, m let's see availability. Let's see where

742
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: we are giving people what they want. Let's see get tickets.

743
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Come on, I think you're looking at twenty four bucks

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: at most. It can't be much more than that. Ticket

745
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: prices start at fifty one. Come on, go as high

746
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: as five eighteen. And that's by the way. Now that's

747
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: ringside if you want to sit. Oh yeah, I can't wait.

748
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the deal. You know today is today?

749
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: You know to the date. Today is years ago today,

750
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson bit off a chunk of a Vander Holyfield's

751
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: ear years ago today. I remember exactly where I was,

752
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: what it would happened. I remember how big of a

753
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: deal it was. Um that was. I think people forget

754
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: are are completely unaware because it's just now they think

755
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: of Mike Tyson's the guy from the Hangover. Um, But

756
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: that was actually the second Tyson holy Field fight. That

757
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: was something. The Tyson holy Field fight was something that

758
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen in the late eighties early nineties. Um,

759
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: but Tyson was convicted of rape and so to jail,

760
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: and so they didn't fight. People forget about that too. Yeah,

761
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: they didn't fight until much much later. Um, but it

762
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: was Tyson. Remember. Tyson's defense was that holy Field had

763
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: gotten away with headbutting him in the first fight and

764
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: then in that fight. Um. And although I think most

765
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: people just viewed it as he was going to get crushed,

766
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: so he did it as a way of getting d Q.

767
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: It was the bite heard around the world. There was

768
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: a time. It's hard if you're probably under the age

769
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: of what thirty to understand that there was a time

770
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: when a big heavyweight fight, a big boxing match was

771
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: the world stopped. It was on the just under what

772
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: a super Bowl would do. Correct. I don't want to

773
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: call it the same level, no, but it was. It

774
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: happened bars if a bar had the fight, you had

775
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: to get there six hours beforehand to get a seat.

776
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, people would lose their proverbial minds. Yeah, and

777
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: then you know that that was probably the end of it,

778
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: because you know, it went go. It went back sixty

779
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: years where big, big fight was big heavyweight fight was

780
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in the world, and Tyson was kind

781
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, both the apex and the fall

782
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: of that, because once he lost his relevancy, then it

783
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: started to fade a little bit. It went you know,

784
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: there was Lennox Lewis and Riddick bow a little they

785
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: fought a little bit, but that didn't have a whole

786
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: lot of juice to it, not compared to it Tyson.

787
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: But I don't even know who's the heavyweight champion right now.

788
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea. No. I mean, he did for

789
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: boxing what Tiger Woods did for golf. Well, it was

790
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: he He came out of Ali. I mean you gotta remember,

791
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean that's Joe Frasier, Muhammad Ali, George Foremanman like

792
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: all of that era. You know that that leads into

793
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Tyson and then Tyson goes to you know, through to

794
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: holy Field and then Lennox Lewis and and then it's

795
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: it fizzled after that. But it was there was a

796
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: time where that's what you did. It wasn't just at

797
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: the heavyweights because you know in this in that similar

798
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: vein was also Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, Delahoy was huge.

799
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Roy Jones juniors fights were huge. When he thought you

800
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: you paid attention. Well, when Tyson started to fade off,

801
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: those undercards were more exciting then the heavyweight fight because

802
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: the heavyweights just hugged each other for three, you know,

803
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: three minutes. Every round it would it would be a

804
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: punch or two, and then they'd hug each other and

805
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: you were like, what is this, what are you doing? Bro?

806
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Let's go and the and the lightweights would just go

807
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: at each other. Yes, yeah, yeah, they would that. So yeah,

808
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I feel I think

809
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: UFC has taken it out, but I don't know if

810
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: UFC's as big as it once was either. I still

811
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: think UFC is, but I feel like every weekend there's

812
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: a pay per view. Yeah, I think I think that

813
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: there's too much of it. There was a time, I

814
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: mean you go back to like the Chuck Lidel you know,

815
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: like the his height of his powers. That to me

816
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: felt like the biggest time for for mm A in

817
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: UFC and all of that. I don't know, um, but yeah,

818
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: years ago, do you remember were you watching it live? Yeah,

819
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: I was in a bar on the East Side, I was.

820
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: I met up with some friends over there. I don't

821
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: I was twenty so yeah, I think I I think

822
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I was dating a girl over on the East Side. Um, yeah,

823
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: over in Mayfield. I can't remember the name of the bar.

824
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Maybe a Fox on the Hound, it sounds right in

825
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: my head. I think they had the fights, Yeah it was.

826
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: I was at my buddy Dusty Felska's house. We bought

827
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: the fight and we watched and that was the big

828
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: We had a big house party and watched the fight.

829
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: That's what we used to do. Anytime Tyson fought, you

830
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: needed to be It didn't matter if the Tyson fight

831
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: was only gonna last ten seconds, well and then he

832
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: was that. After that he was done. He pretty much

833
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: went away until he showed up in the Hangover and

834
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: had a second life. Is there a definitive documentary on him?

835
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: There's the there's the one, um, the one on custom

836
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Otto is pretty good. The guy who discovered him, that's

837
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. But I don't know if there's

838
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: like a definitive Tyson doc out there, because his life

839
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: is wild with everything that's involved in that. I mean,

840
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: he's married to Robin Gibbons. At one point it had

841
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: everything to it, everything to it, and then somehow ends

842
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: up in the hangover. Now I come to find out

843
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: he's selling he sells uh marijuana edibles in the shape

844
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: of an ear out in Vegas. Of course, I hope

845
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: holy Fields getting something out of it. And I don't

846
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: know what happened to holy Field. I don't have no

847
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: idea what happened to him the last twenty year. You

848
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: know he was he did Yeah Georgia. Yeah, nice player

849
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: in Georgia. But I don't know whatever happened to holy Field.

850
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: Hard to know? Um, All right, Coming up at the

851
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: top of the hour, Jim Donovan will join us the

852
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: Voice of the Browns, get his view of all of

853
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: this news that is happening around the Browns at the

854
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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Also get into Matt Miller's draft board as

855
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859
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Speaker 1: We had on the hotline for a visit with our

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Speaker 1: great friend, the Voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan. And

867
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: is typically the case, we want to know what you're

868
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: doing right now, sir. Where do we find you right now?

869
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: But I'm on the farm right now, and it is

870
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: just a beautiful, quiet, very peaceful day. I mean peaceful

871
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: for everybody that that is living on this little plot

872
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: of land. Here's just a beautiful day. Horses are great

873
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: awaiting hey, shipment pretty soon. Uh, and probably going to

874
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: pick up a second job or perhaps a third job.

875
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: That hates that hates jumping in prices. I'll tell you what,

876
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: There's no question I could. I'll tell you what. I

877
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: don't know that the fuel costs would make it prohibitive,

878
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: but we could absolutely send some hay from Montana your way, buddy.

879
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: We produced some of that so we can ship it.

880
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that the gas prices are gonna

881
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: make it very easy for for it to make any

882
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: economical sense. Um, Yeah, we have kind of we have

883
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of deliberated on growing some of our own here

884
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: there you go. But the horses have claimed a lot

885
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: of the land here for their own recreational activities, and

886
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: so it would really be I would imagine there would

887
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: be quite a deal, you know, quite a bit of

888
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: protest if we cut off some of their uh you know,

889
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: grasp grazing room and that suddenly became a hay field.

890
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: So I think we're stuck waiting for the hay delivery today.

891
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: If it ever comes to that, that's a little something

892
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I know something about. I'd be happy to come out

893
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: and help you with with hand season out there on

894
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: the Ponderosa. My friend, Um hey, this is what we

895
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: this is I tell you, I needed to laugh, Jim,

896
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: and I needed the warp. I needed to hear your

897
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: voice because I'm telling you, I'm so fatigued by by

898
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: all of this, and it's it's just one it's just never.

899
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: It feels like it's never gonna end, and um, I

900
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: don't know when it will. I mean, I know that

901
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: this uh this stuff that Watson's team and is meeting

902
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: with the NFL today. You know, the NFL is going

903
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: to present their case. I think we have a pretty

904
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: good idea of kind of the way that this thing

905
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: is going to be presented and how it's gonna go.

906
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: But Jim, we have no idea how long this will last.

907
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: We have no idea when a ruling will come. We

908
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: have no idea what's going to be asked from the

909
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: NFL from a ruling standpoint, or what the what the

910
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: counter will be to that. There's all of this reporting

911
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: that's out there on a daily basis, and and just

912
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: from even even what you do it at Channel three,

913
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: How are you waiting through all of this? Well, it's

914
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: it's it's top of every show. I mean, it really is.

915
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: And Um, I don't think there there is a segment

916
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: of the population around northeast Ohio that um and I

917
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: think I'm picking it up from you two, and it's certainly,

918
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, understandable there is a Watson fatigue that is

919
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: going on because they think people are very fatigued by

920
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: this story. And some people are very upset by the story.

921
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: And I can understand that too, But it is a story, um,

922
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: And enough people, you know, definitely wherever you go, they

923
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: want to know, do you know anything? Is there a

924
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: conclusion coming? When? Do we know if he's gonna play

925
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: how much he's gonna play um, and it's it's it

926
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: is daily, it and it and it really seems to

927
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: change almost hourly. In the last week, it really has

928
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: kind of picked up an its pace of news coming

929
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: out and it comes out from everywhere now, bo I mean,

930
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: it certainly is pouring out of Houston. It's pouring out

931
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: of the offices of Tony Busby. And then there's a

932
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: defense mechanism on the Watson side with Rusty Harden and

933
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: now you've got the NFL p A ready to defend

934
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: Watson and they become a big part of it. And

935
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: then you have these very very strategically placed stories at

936
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: the end of the last couple of weeks, uh coming

937
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: out in the in the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post,

938
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: the New York Times, and that is kind of the

939
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: voice of the NFL, kind of sending out their message

940
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: as to how they're going to fight this thing and

941
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: what kind of suspension they're going to demand or at

942
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: least ask for from Sue Robinson in this case. So

943
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: it is it's an amazing tale. It's amazing also when

944
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: you think of just take a look at where we

945
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: are today and what's going on today. The Watson hearing

946
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: is going on today. And also in Norman, Oklahoma, Baker

947
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Mayfield has a football camp, and we are talking about

948
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown's quarterback situation, and not one iota of

949
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: it concerns anything that is going on on the football field.

950
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: That is pretty amazing. No, it is and and very

951
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: likely that both of the guys were talking about right now.

952
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it seems probable and absolute in the case

953
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: of one of them, that neither one will be the

954
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: starting quarterback to start the season. So that's that's all

955
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: out there as as part of it as well. Um.

956
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, You've been around this business a

957
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: long time and and and I feel like I got

958
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good handle on things. You mentioned something and

959
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of hammer back because I think, um,

960
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: it's something that that fans ought to hear when you

961
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: use strategically placed stories. Um, I'm quick. There was a

962
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: fantastic HBO show called The Wire, um, and and one

963
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: of them, this great detective Lester says, all of the

964
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: pieces matter. And that's the thing with this stuff is

965
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: that all of this stuff that is coming out these

966
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: strategically play stories, as you put it. They all serve

967
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: an agenda, don't they, Jim. And that's something that uh,

968
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, you think about at the heart of it all.

969
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: I suppose we're all journalists, you and I at least

970
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: came up this way and and the notion being, um,

971
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: understanding where and what is the motivation of some of

972
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: this stuff getting out? And I think sometimes it's hard,

973
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: especially in the social media era, to kind of decode

974
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. Yeah, it really is. And there

975
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's um, so much of everything right now

976
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: is how is everything going to have been received publicly?

977
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: And how do you get it out there to have

978
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: its greatest effect? And a lot of times, you know,

979
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: there's not a great deal of attribution. And by that,

980
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean you know it's you really don't have specific

981
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: people when they talk about what the NFL is looking for.

982
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: In this case, there's no identity. I mean, you can

983
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: assume it's the commissioner, or you can assume it's a

984
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: group or a cluster of ownership owners in the case

985
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: that are going to him and say, hey, listen, you know,

986
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: make sure that you put the hammer down in this story. Uh,

987
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: and in this particular case, but they're really in these

988
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: stories that are published and typically towards the end of

989
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: the week, because then they have kind of a life

990
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: flying through the weekend, and then you come back and

991
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: you restart everything, you reignite everything on Monday. And and

992
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: that certainly was the case again yesterday after what happened

993
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: at the end of last week. UM. But you really

994
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: don't have any names attached to anything. You just have

995
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, a league source, uh, someone very close to

996
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: what's going on with the commissioner or things like that. Um.

997
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: But it's almost like you know the line, no names please,

998
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: and and that's what goes on here. But these things

999
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: are very strategically put out there. And and I think

1000
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: throughout the entire case, uh, from the Houston part of

1001
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: it and now spilling out into the NFL part of it,

1002
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and certainly from the Union part of it. Um, you're

1003
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna hear an awful lot coming from all different areas. Really,

1004
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, four different camps, the Busby camp, the Watson camp,

1005
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the Union camp, the NFL camp, and maybe you can

1006
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: add Sue Robinson and as a fifth camp, hoping that

1007
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 1: she is kind of an independent disciplinary officer in the case.

1008
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: But that's a lot of traffic to kind of funnel

1009
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: through and finally kind of kernel out what is the

1010
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: absolute truth in the situation? Um, you know, And but

1011
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: there is a lot of strategy and these things are

1012
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: placed with kind of a meticulous precision to get it

1013
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: out there on time so that it has the most effect.

1014
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: I think, and you mentioned the Baker sign of a

1015
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: jim the that that was something that I think finally

1016
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: we can I mean, I think those of us in

1017
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: the know and and you I'm sure you've known this

1018
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: for there's just no path for him to continue playing here.

1019
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: And that was both his view and I think the

1020
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: organization's view that look, this was gonna be an amicable divorce,

1021
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: like it's They've some ups and downs in four years,

1022
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: but it was time for everybody to move on. And

1023
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: yet we would consistently, and I'm sure you saw this too,

1024
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: consistently see people, especially national people, not so much local people,

1025
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: but national people constantly hammering, oh they for one more year,

1026
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: and I just would keep it. Would so bang in

1027
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: your head against the wall, like listen, that ain't gonna happen.

1028
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: And Baker, I think finally closed the door on that today,

1029
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: don't you think, Yeah, dude. And I think what people

1030
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: have to remember is there was there was much more

1031
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: than a Sunday afternoon part of that whole saga from

1032
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: last year. There was a day to day aspect of that.

1033
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there was a lot that went

1034
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: on before Sunday afternoon in the lead up to every

1035
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: weekend's game coming up with Baker Mayfield and the injury,

1036
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: and the question about was he going to be able

1037
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: to answer the bell and play for that particular week,

1038
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: did he practice? What's his mood? Is he upset over

1039
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: the O b J story? Are his teammates upset with

1040
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: the fact that O. B J is not going to

1041
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: be brought back? I mean, there was a lot more

1042
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: than going on than just saying, hey, listen, they have

1043
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: that guy under contract, They're gonna pay him eighteen point

1044
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: nine million anyway, why not bring him back if Watson

1045
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: has suspended. I think a lot of people anticipate this

1046
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: is almost kind of like a movie type setting that

1047
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: there would be this summit meeting maybe in maybe in

1048
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Oklahoma or in Texas, or in a diner off to

1049
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: the side, almost like that movie Friday Night Lights when

1050
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: they had to go to the einer and put the

1051
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: coin to see which which school was going to go

1052
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: to the playoff. I think people are kind of saying, hey, listen,

1053
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be something if Jimmy Haslum and Andrew Berry

1054
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski were in some greasy spoon diner down

1055
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: near Austin, Texas, and the Mayfield camp came in and

1056
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: they they hashed it over over a play to waffles

1057
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: and suddenly, you know, he decides to come back, and

1058
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: he shows up in Barria, you know, in late July

1059
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: the training camp to to have this one year that

1060
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: he can play out with the Cleveland Browns. Um. You know,

1061
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: that is a movie script, but I don't think it's

1062
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: reality in this situation because of everything that went on

1063
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: the day to day aspect. You know, the Sunday deals

1064
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: were what they were. The eight nine record wasn't what

1065
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: they wanted, his play wasn't what they wanted, and there

1066
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: were a lot of ifs and butts connected to that

1067
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: with the injuries and the injuries to the other members

1068
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: of the team. But the fact of the matter was

1069
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: there was a lot of drama that went on and

1070
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: I think by the end of it, there was fatigue.

1071
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: You know I mentioned about the Watson fatigue. I think

1072
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: there was he got both sides with Mayfield and the Bronx. Yes,

1073
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: agreed on that to that end. Um in terms of

1074
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: a just in your mind, what is kind of how

1075
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: you see this from a timetable standpoint, Jim, We know

1076
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: that the NFL is off next week. Um. We For me,

1077
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine something happening then. It feels like

1078
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: it almost has to come at the end of this

1079
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: week or it'll wait a couple of weeks to get

1080
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: some sort of a ruling on this. And I think

1081
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: that's what we want. We just want some Yeah, I

1082
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: think so both. Yeah, I'm sorry, I I really I

1083
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: think that I think that Friday becomes kind of a

1084
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: target day. There's some reporting coming out from around the

1085
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: hearing today saying that this hearing may have to go

1086
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: into tomorrow because so many people are speaking in the case,

1087
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, because you've added the union into this too now,

1088
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: which becomes a very very important part of the story,

1089
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: especially for just Shaun Watson, because there's no doubt in

1090
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: my mind be able to defend them, and defend them hard.

1091
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: I think they liked this kind of fight against the

1092
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: NFL and to test out this whole new disciplinary system

1093
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: that came to be in this new collective bargaining agreement.

1094
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: But even if it goes into tomorrow, that would bring

1095
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: us to Wednesday. You would think that so much, so

1096
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: much has already been talked about in the case, and

1097
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: they have met with Deshaun Watson three or four times,

1098
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: I believe down in Houston. The league has so you

1099
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: would almost be at the point that maybe you know,

1100
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: I would target at early as maybe Friday, before a

1101
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: holiday weekend to come down with this kind of a decision. Um,

1102
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: the later it goes, it's a real problem. I think

1103
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: it's a problem for everybody. I mean, and I think

1104
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: it really become a problem for the Browns and a

1105
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: big problem for the NFL because suddenly you would be

1106
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: going in to a training camp season and this story

1107
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: would swallow up league wide. What's going on? There's not

1108
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: just what's going on in Cleveland. Yeah, there's no question.

1109
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: There's no question. And we kind of pointed to to

1110
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: that Friday as as kind of the way that it

1111
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: would be. Um, alright, pal, what what give me something?

1112
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: Let's send on a high note. You got any plans

1113
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: for the next month here before camp, you're gonna get away.

1114
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna do some some stuff with the family, but

1115
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of the family. There's no doubt.

1116
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about getting away, because it seems like

1117
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: getting away is a real task. Uh these days. I

1118
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: mean I am hearing such horror stories from people who

1119
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: have tried to get away and are still sitting in

1120
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: airports waiting for flights that just aren't going to get away.

1121
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: Uh that that there's enough going on here that I

1122
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have a good time and around here,

1123
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: and I enjoy this time right now, uh, leading up

1124
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: to training camp, but there is an excitement that you know,

1125
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: you're kind of counting the days too, when you know

1126
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: we get out there and and we really get it rolling.

1127
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: Because once you do get it rolling, it doesn't stop.

1128
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't stop leading into a preseason game

1129
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: and leading into the beginning of September and going to

1130
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Carolina and opening up the season. So I think we're

1131
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: just gonna kind of enjoy the fruits of our labor

1132
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: around here and have a good time around here and

1133
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: get some relaxation in This has been a drain as

1134
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it has been for everybody that's covered the

1135
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: story for you guys too. I mean doing it a

1136
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: couple of hours a day, five days a week, and

1137
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: this has been an ongoing saga, and I think we

1138
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: all kind of need a little bit of a break

1139
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: from that. So the sooner we get a conclusion to this,

1140
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: no matter what it is and how we're gonna have

1141
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: to deal with it, Uh, we need we all need

1142
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: some time to take a breath and and commend fresh

1143
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: and ready to go at the end of July. Jim,

1144
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: sometimes I like to say to people that to me,

1145
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: you sound like the voice of God. And I hope

1146
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: you that in this instance you are, sir, because I

1147
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: hope we get I need it, man, I need some

1148
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: conclusion on this, Buddy. Appreciate your time so very much. Jim,

1149
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: thanks for it giving us a little bit of it today.

1150
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: You got it, bo Take care. All right. That's the

1151
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: great Jim Donovan, the Voice of the Browns, joining us

1152
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: on the hotline. There, we'll take a look at Matt

1153
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: Miller's early look at the two thousand and twenty three

1154
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: NFL draft, and you'll get back to kind of that

1155
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: conversation we were having about Baker and how tricky I

1156
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: think it will be to move him to another team

1157
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: barring injury. We'll get into that coming up next. Cleveland

1158
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Brown ESP in Cleveland, m Cleveland Brown's Daily on E

1159
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: S B and Cleveland. All Right, couple of things in

1160
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: the sports world here. This is from the college football

1161
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: side of things. The Atlantic Coast Conference approves a three

1162
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: five five format, with all teams UM playing in one

1163
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: division that will start next season. Um So, the idea

1164
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: of the three three five is that you will play

1165
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: UM three teams that are your guaranteed opponents every year,

1166
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: and then you will rotate the other games as it

1167
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: goes along. Swag walking by here looking particularly swaggy. Um So,

1168
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: the A C C first to do this. The Big

1169
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: ten is gonna do this too. The Big Ten will

1170
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: do this too. They'll do this in the next couple

1171
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: of years. The Big tennel, we'll get rid of this,

1172
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: they'll get rid of the UM, they'll get rid of

1173
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: the two divisions, and they will they will play a

1174
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: very similar schedule where you have three locked in opponents.

1175
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: My hunch is that the Ohio State opponents would be Michigan,

1176
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: Penn State, and then there will probably be one doormat,

1177
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: So it could be UM one of the eastern schools,

1178
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: Maryland or Rutgers. It could be Illinois, it could be Indiana.

1179
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: It'll be something like that for a highest state. But

1180
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: they'll always play Michigan and Penn State. And the idea

1181
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: here is that you make you make better television shows.

1182
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: So it's a better television show to see Ohio State

1183
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: play Penn State or Michigan for a second time rather

1184
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: than to watch them play Northwestern or Wisconsin or whoever

1185
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: else comes out Iowa, whoever else is going to come

1186
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: out of the West. So this is a natural evolution

1187
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: I think of the of the college model. I will

1188
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm shocked, folks that after Texas and Oklahoma

1189
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: bolted to the SEC over a year ago, that nothing

1190
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: else has really happened. The Big twelve has had their

1191
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: answer to this, which was adding Cincinnati and Houston and

1192
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Central Florida and that. But the fact that the Big

1193
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Ten hasn't done anything. It's pretty stunning to me that

1194
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: they've set pat and U had no answer for it.

1195
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 1: But I think you expected that. I thought they'd be

1196
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: I thought they'd be bold, and I think there's a

1197
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: roadmap for them to be bold. I do, yeah, I

1198
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's I think you have to you have

1199
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: to really lead. Kevin Warren has been the commissioner of

1200
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, has been off the grid since COVID.

1201
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's the one who said, oh, yeah, we're

1202
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: not gonna play. I hoped everyone else would follow. The

1203
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: sec said well, actually we're gonna play. I think we

1204
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: will play, and and Justin Fields went and fought and

1205
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: they got to play five games or whatever it was,

1206
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: which was better than nothing. But we haven't really heard

1207
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: from war And since he's negotiating a television deal for

1208
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, so allegedly that's happening, but who knows. Um,

1209
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: But I do think there's now is the time to

1210
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: be bold. I don't I have. I really believe that

1211
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: that they have to be bold here otherwise you're gonna

1212
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: get lapped a little bit when you look at what's

1213
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: happening around. You're gonna make a lot of money in

1214
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: the interim because you still have Ohiest State in Michigan

1215
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: and Penn State and those are still big television products. Um,

1216
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: but how much of that is based on how great

1217
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State has been the last twenty five years. That's

1218
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: a big part of it is how great the Buckeyes

1219
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: have been. Absolutely, you're not always going to be entitled

1220
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: to that. One bad higher is all you need on

1221
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: that side of things. Matt Miller, speaking of the Buckeyes

1222
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: and my guests, I haven't looked at this. My guesses

1223
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: will have some in here. So the only reason, and

1224
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: I truly mean the only reason why I even wanted

1225
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: to give you this mock draft was because I know

1226
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: it's early. I know we haven't even played the season.

1227
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: But there's some things that just don't add up, namely

1228
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: the fact that the quarterbacks don't go one, two, and three. Well, yes,

1229
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: so I think it's what he so he what I

1230
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: think the most interesting right of the Gates is he

1231
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: thinks the Jets are gonna be the worst team in football,

1232
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: which I don't think unless and here's the other thing.

1233
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: If the Jets are are the worst heam in football,

1234
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: then it will be in large part because Zack Wilson

1235
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: isn't good. So then they would take a quarterback quarterback,

1236
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: so they have. They have been taken Will Anderson. Anderson

1237
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: is in the mold of the bosses and Miles and

1238
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: Chase Young. Like he's that much of a sure thing.

1239
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: He was the best player on the field every time

1240
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 1: they played at Alabama and they had the Heisman Trophy winner.

1241
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: So he's a sure thing at the top. But if

1242
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: the Jets are bad, I'm my guess is it's because

1243
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: Wilson isn't good. So and I don't think they're gonna

1244
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: be the worst. Now the next two teams, I think

1245
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick one and two, So the Bears. He

1246
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: has the Bears picking Jackson Smith and Jigba the wide

1247
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: receiver out of Ohio State second. Overall. If the Bears

1248
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: were picking that high, I think they probably wouldn't take

1249
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They would probably try to give feed up

1250
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: fields a little bit of help. Well, you would hope

1251
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: at some point. At some point now they have he's

1252
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: got Houston picking third. He's got them picking Jalen Carter

1253
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: out of Georgia. I mean, I think that's crazy they

1254
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: would take c. J. Shroud. It's a defensive tackle. You

1255
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: can't take t tackles overall, not when you need a quarterback.

1256
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: He's got Jacksonville picking fourth. I'm not sure I agree

1257
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: with that either. Yeah, that's Eli Rix out of Alabama.

1258
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: The corner um Atlanta pick. So Atlanta is one of

1259
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: the three teams, the Bears, Atlanta, and Houston to me

1260
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: are the three teams that are trying to get to

1261
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: the bottom. In this case, Atlanta gets their guy at five.

1262
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: They get c J. Stroud, the first quarterback off the board.

1263
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: He goes fifth overall to If c J. Stroud plays

1264
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: the way we think he's going to play this upcoming season,

1265
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: there's no way he is there at five. Someone's coming up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he know someone's mortgaging at all. Now he's a big kid,

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01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, he's got everything you want. Um,

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01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: it's funny. So he's got Pittsburgh six. He's got Pittsburgh six.

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01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: He has Bryce Young, the quarterback Heisman Trophy winner out

1270
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: of Alabama, going seven to Carolina. Will Levis. Now here's

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. Run the quarterback out of Kentucky. He was

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: previously at Penn State. Levis was they took um Sean Clifford.

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: They went with Clifford over Levis. Levi Us has developed

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: into a dude. Would have been nice if he was

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: still at Penn State because it's really all they've missed

1276
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. They have him going eight

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Speaker 1: to Detroit Seattle of jarn Hall, the quarterback at the

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Speaker 1: b y U. I don't have a lot on him.

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, but like Detroit taking a

1280
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: QB at eight, like he thinks Detroit's not going to

1281
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: be good. I think Detroit's can be better than people think.

1282
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: I do too. He's got Tyler van Dyke, the quarterback

1283
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: out of Miami going ten. Um. It was more of

1284
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: a big picture. Yeah, yeah, just from this, I'm curious,

1285
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: like where he sees he's got He's got it put

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Another Buckeye going

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: twenty two. Paris Johnson, the offensive tackle out of Ohio

1288
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: State going twenty two. Uh. In this one, there's that's

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: pick from Seattle. From Denver to Seattle, Seattle second first rounder. Interesting,

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01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson going. He's Anthony rich I don't think Anthony

1291
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: Richard is gonna start at Florida this year. He's got

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: him as a first round pick. The kid from Ohio

1293
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: State transferred there. The other quarterback at Ohio State. I

1294
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: think he's got a real good chance at winning that job.

1295
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: So the Lions have a couple of ones. Okay, all right,

1296
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: it's a big time quarterback draft. You got four of

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Speaker 1: them in the first ten picks. I think there were

1298
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: seven or eight in the top thirty two here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that will be the case. The biggest thing

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Speaker 1: I have is I have a hard time believing, uh

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: that the Jet if the Jets are bad, that they

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01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't move off of Wilson because if they're bad, it'll

1303
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: be his fault. They have everything else. Yep, you know, no,

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: I agree. I just again, it's June and it's one

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01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: of those that I'm like, okay, but this is kind

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: of an idea where you think teams are going to

1307
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: finish two oh yeah, that's interesting part of it like

1308
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: where does he think they're gonna finish and then be

1309
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: the thinking of if they do finish here, then what

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01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: do they need? And that's the part that that is

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: a little bit off. I think the three worst teams

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01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: of football going into the season are Houston, Atlanta and

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: the Bears. Yeah, those are the three. So that's that's

1314
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of the race to see how how all of

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: that handles all of it. We'll see on that, all right,

1316
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: we will begin our tour around the a f C

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Speaker 1: North with the look at the mini camp down in Cincinnati.

1318
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Speaker 1: Jeff Hobson will join us. Who impressed Wood, who stood out?

1319
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Did they get all their question answered? As they head

1320
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: into training camp in a little over a month. We

1321
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: will visit with him coming up next. You listen to

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01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 1: Clevelandrounds Daily on a fifty esp in Cleveland. Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: Elkin Els proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. As we

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: head out on the hotline for the first of our

1327
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: a f C North off season reviews, and this one

1328
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: we head down to Cincinnati for a conversation with our

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Speaker 1: good buddy, senior writer Jeff Hobson joining us. Jeff, thank

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time. Let's start back

1331
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the end, and that is, of course,

1332
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl and kind of the weeks the

1333
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,839
Speaker 1: days after that and kind of how the organization responded,

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01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: how Joe Burrow responded to that run. I thought he

1335
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: had some incredible comments afterwards, saying uh, even mentioning the

1336
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner football life, like, Hey, let's let's also be

1337
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: appreciative of what we did. Did that kind of set

1338
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: the tone for this offseason? Yeah, I think definitely, Uh,

1339
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: you know we uh uh you get battered. But he

1340
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: got up off that podium, went in and uh a

1341
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: chair on stage with Clel Zone kick Cutty at the

1342
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: post game, and I think he uh shook that message

1343
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: we will not have a ball angle. He came out

1344
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: of that quickly, and I think that has carried into spring,

1345
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: where they had at their entire offense out there on

1346
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: the field. Uh. And it's there's been no change except

1347
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: for the three offensive linement. So I think what you

1348
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: know Burrow said, and it's done. I remember, guys, this

1349
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: is the first spring that he's been on the field

1350
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: and is in his pro career. The first of his

1351
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: rookie year was erased by COVID. He was in rehab

1352
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: last spring. So you know, it's this offense is operating. Uh.

1353
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's a pretty curtailing. You know they've uh

1354
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: they haven't missed a beat. No, I imagine that they haven't.

1355
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: You Like, Jeff, I've never thought of it from that

1356
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: perspective that this was his first real off season with

1357
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: the Bengals and and a healthy one. Um probably feeling

1358
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: as good as he's felt. Um coming off of of

1359
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: of the incredible season they have, which is coming off

1360
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: of the big injury that from the year before, just

1361
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: from a a health standpoint, Um, what has it been

1362
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: like for him to rejuvenate. Let's talk on the field first,

1363
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: in terms of does he feel like he can now

1364
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: do everything that he's always wanted to do and been

1365
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: able to do. Yeah, I don't think there's and I

1366
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: think you know what, I think what he was doing

1367
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, you know, it

1368
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: was pretty much that way. I think, uh, you know

1369
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: a Callahan, the offensive coordinator said, was I think pretty accurate.

1370
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: When he really needed was the rest. Now he didn't

1371
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: need to, you know, he needed the He needed the

1372
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: time off because of the training rehab and quarterback the

1373
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: longest the longest season of the history of football. So

1374
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: he does he he does, look at you, I mean

1375
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: he has you know, he uh and and he in

1376
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: another way, he set the temple, the way he set

1377
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: the tone. You know, we talked to him about two

1378
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: weeks ago whenever he didn't wrapped up and he said,

1379
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna miss a I'm you know, I'm not

1380
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna miss it. Uh, you know, a workout. You know,

1381
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: this is not a vacation that's coming up. I'm gonna

1382
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: work out every day. You know. He's going on a

1383
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: couple of trips. He says, he'll take his traighter, He'll

1384
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: take his trainer with So that's such a troll too.

1385
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I think physically, you know piece, you

1386
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: know this is uh we've never seen a borrow uh

1387
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: in this tiptop shape. No not. And then the other

1388
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 1: part of that, when you're talking about a franchise quarterback,

1389
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: of course, Jeff is just their presence. And it feels

1390
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: like from what I'm hearing from you and from others

1391
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: I've talked to you down there, is that Burrows pretty omnipresent,

1392
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 1: not just at the facility but around town. He lives

1393
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: there full time, That's it. And and so he's he

1394
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: is the face of the organization about every way possible.

1395
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: Isn't he what he was from the day he got here.

1396
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean he was I think he and Dalton or

1397
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: maybe on the roster for like ten days. But that

1398
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: was COVID, you know, that was a that was that

1399
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: was permitted to play offen Duck and he was obviously

1400
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: had been released by then. Uh you know, from the

1401
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: moment he was drafted, it was his key and uh

1402
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: you know he did that early on with with the

1403
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: social justice stuff. He came right out, uh tweeted support

1404
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: was teeming. Uh and you know every team that twenty

1405
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: there is uh Joe is at the focal and that stuff.

1406
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: And he was a rookie is uh he was a

1407
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: captain as a rookie, you know, which is even for quarterbacks.

1408
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: I think that's that's pretty rare. So this guy's uh,

1409
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: you know those guys. Uh, you talked about what he did,

1410
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: feel I always talked about what he did, what he

1411
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: does off, what he's off. The greatest team leader I

1412
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: ever saw was booler size, you know, and uh and

1413
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: and and this kid's this kid's come out of the

1414
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: Sea Bowl. Yeah, it certainly seems like it. And so

1415
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: then the job this offseason, there were several jobs at

1416
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: the front office went about, but chief among them was

1417
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: getting that offensive line sorted out. They got three new

1418
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: faces up there. LEL. Collins obviously one of the one

1419
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: that most people know so much about how have those

1420
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: guys been integrated in through this offseason, um, and the

1421
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: work that was done through the spring in the early summer. Well,

1422
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are pros. I think that was

1423
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: the big change that you know, those three guys, they

1424
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: became the most experience lineman in the room once they came.

1425
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: So from talking about toads setting. You know, he get

1426
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: ted Carras uh is a two time Super Bowl Chappie

1427
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: in the starting center. Alex Kappa, uh some great teams

1428
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: with Kampa won a Super Bowl. Uh, and Collins was

1429
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: on you know, it was on some of the best

1430
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: offensive lines in the game. So these guys are they're

1431
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: walking right in he could they're plug and play and

1432
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: there either Stu. I mean at the other end that

1433
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: Kappa didn't practice because he had some uh he had

1434
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: some uh a minded procedures done. He's certainly back getting

1435
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: training camp, so he didn't uh you know Jack, you know,

1436
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: he did not take the he did not take the staffs.

1437
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: But he was there. But he's a veteran. You know,

1438
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: like I said, he could plug the play guy. And uh,

1439
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: you know three three big question Max answered in the

1440
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: first you know, forty eight hours of three agency. And

1441
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: then of course, uh, you know, the big question I

1442
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: guess to be there if Jackson Common can hold on

1443
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: the Scott and John and looked pretty good in the

1444
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: spring of course entering, but uh, I think Jackson. I

1445
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: think that that the left side is more natural for Jackson.

1446
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: He's had a year to transitions from tackle the guy

1447
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: college of clothes. So I think they feel like they're

1448
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: going to get enough to tick there. All right, let's Jeff,

1449
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: let's take a look at that. At that rookie class

1450
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: that was drafted. They go defensive back with the first

1451
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: two picks, with Cam Taylor Brett in the second round.

1452
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: Dax Hill out of Michigan. I know him pretty well,

1453
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: the defensive back in the first round. Um, what did

1454
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: you see from them? Uh? The spring and and or

1455
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: any of the other rookies jump out in terms of

1456
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: being very impressive for you, Well, it's literally a quick

1457
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: look because they're fast. Uh. But really, honestly, Fellas, you

1458
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: know how this stuff is. You can't get anything. You

1459
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: can't I can't get much out of it. You know,

1460
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: you had these guys look fast the field. I say,

1461
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: I do think they think Dax Hill really uh picked

1462
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: up the sister terrific. He's he's as advertised, very solid guy,

1463
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: uh with the playbook, smart guy, experienced, good character guy,

1464
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: as is the whole class, I believe. But they'll really

1465
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: don't really showed up as this. You know, he walked

1466
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: right off the draft board and was you know, I

1467
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: think they could feel good, pretty comfortable of that. They can.

1468
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: They do feel a couple of all those guys, nobody

1469
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: looked out of place. That's the show, uh, premium on

1470
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: speed in the backfield and you can see it. Um.

1471
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: I think you know, guys like Kim Taylor, Brittain Tyson Anderson,

1472
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: who are the second of fifth picks respectively. Uh, they

1473
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: both traded and they turned up and get both of them. Um,

1474
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: they're they're uh guys that are going to develop. They'll

1475
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: have time to develop, which is nice when you're in

1476
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: this situation. You know, you weren't uh there were no

1477
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: draftings needs. You know, they were right, they will they

1478
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: let the board come to them, and I think, uh,

1479
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: you know, I think it. Uh, they had to beef

1480
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: up some some numbers in the secretary and they did that. Yeah,

1481
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: they no question did um and and that let's stay

1482
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary because Jesse Bates uh is a is

1483
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: a big part of that and has been a big

1484
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: part of it. Where where are we now, where the

1485
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: Bengals now with Bates and and what what will that

1486
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: look like over the course of the next month. Yeah,

1487
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, they're like, you know, like

1488
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: any franchise three agent situation that hoping they can get

1489
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: something done with the by life fifty. They'd love to

1490
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: have her back. And if they can't get them done

1491
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: by the fifth eight, they still love to have them

1492
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: fast and worked something out. But I think what they

1493
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: know right now is, you know what they've always known.

1494
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: They love the guy whose teamates love them. Uh. A

1495
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: great presence in the room, great leader, one of the

1496
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: best stations in the league. You know, Uh, he'll be back.

1497
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: They'll play it. He'll be really good because he is

1498
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: beyond that. How many years, I don't know. I think

1499
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: that's obviously obviously they'd like to they'd like to hammer

1500
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: something up, you know, obviously they've got you know it's

1501
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna be the challenge for this club

1502
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. They got a lot

1503
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: of talent. They build one of the most talented young

1504
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: ross in the game, and I gotta keep them. How

1505
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: do you keep borrowing? And Chase, Well, you know you're

1506
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: gotta keep borrow. You know that's gonna happen, and you

1507
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: gotta keep. You gotta keep as much as you can.

1508
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: So the puzzle, you know, the puzzle is just stating Yeah,

1509
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: and it's it does feel like they're in their entry

1510
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: into what should be a long golden era. Here, a

1511
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: lot of young guys all coming up together. They've drafted

1512
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: really well, they're building it very well. Jeff Big pictures organizationally, um,

1513
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: and I know there's been some movement down there on

1514
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: an indoor facility and a and a bubble and those

1515
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 1: type of things. And I saw that, you know, season

1516
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: tickets were sold out. I saw that the the facility

1517
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: down there, the practice field's got a spot answorship on them.

1518
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: So this is stuff that's heading in the right direction

1519
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 1: for the organization. Where are they with the indoor bubble

1520
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: and and perhaps a permanent indoor facility down there, Yeah,

1521
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: there'll be one. They'll be able to get into. Bubble. Uh.

1522
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: I think they're thinking in November, you know, uh, just

1523
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: some time to get ready for sleepland whether it's here

1524
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: or there, and uh, you know, I think, uh, I

1525
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: think everything is evolving with you know, trying to get

1526
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: trying to get something permanent. You know. I think that's

1527
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's uh trying to get that done as well.

1528
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,440
Speaker 1: But I mean I think, uh, due to the organizations

1529
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: as bright as it's even been, I mean on and

1530
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: off the field, you know, I mean Elizabeth Blackburn, uh,

1531
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: Mike's granddaughter, and uh, he's just a kind of line

1532
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: if if I come in and uh kind of been

1533
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: a big impact office deal with social media, the website

1534
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: and video and they you know, they've come in with

1535
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: Troy and Katie is run of the run of the

1536
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: day to day stuff their parents and they'll be still

1537
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: be uh tast was keeping the roster together. Mike Brown

1538
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: still has still has a hand in this. So it's uh,

1539
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they've pushed all the right buttons. Man,

1540
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 1: you can't you know, the Ring of Honor is up again.

1541
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: They're there. They'll have their second class in there that

1542
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: Thursday night game at the in September. You know that

1543
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: an audio class. It really was a great hit with

1544
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 1: the fans of all Brown and Anthony Mudo's Katy Anderson

1545
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: and Katy Riley, gonna be really interesting to see who's next.

1546
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, you know, so it's uh, it's all

1547
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's uh, you know, you look back at

1548
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: the eighties, you know, when they were coming off that

1549
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: eighty eight Super Bowl, how popular they were, you know,

1550
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: and you can probably multiply that by ten. Because of

1551
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 1: social media and where we are in the information in

1552
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: the in the ape, in the information age, the Bengals

1553
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: are as hard as it gets, not only insists today

1554
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: around the nfuntain. Yeah, there's no there's no question about this.

1555
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: I'll get you out of here on this one. Jeff.

1556
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: You've been around the game a long time obviously. Um,

1557
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: when you look at the this a f C and

1558
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: the amount of young gun slingers that are in some

1559
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: instances haven't even reached their prime of their careers, do

1560
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: you recall a time as tough as it is right

1561
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: now in the a f C. Because I think you

1562
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: could talk about eight teams that probably think they could

1563
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl out of the a f C. Yeah,

1564
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny, you get so you guys know,

1565
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: this is so tunneled the a f C North, the

1566
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: a f C North is always you know, I don't care.

1567
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 1: Even when Cleveland was down, that was always a trackable,

1568
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: you know. So it was such tunnel vision. He's thinking

1569
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: AFC North. For the last twenty years, you know, it's

1570
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: been some great clubs, great quarterbacks, great defences, you know,

1571
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: great games. I mean, you couldn't even think about the

1572
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: rest of the a f C. But yeah, if you

1573
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: pick over the curtains, if you pick over the the

1574
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: steel curtain, and through the jungle and uh through over

1575
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Deep Bank and the and the dog Town that if

1576
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: you can, if you can get over that, you look

1577
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: over there and you know, wow, mean look at the

1578
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: a s C West, you know, look at the look

1579
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: at the bills with Josh Allen. I mean it's uh,

1580
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: you know a Tennessee with Rabel is always look at

1581
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: the coaches. Uh has a winner, tombams a winner. Um

1582
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: you know, um rabel and Tennessee always turns them up,

1583
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: you know. So uh read Andy Reid is is is

1584
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: always gonna win a eleven games. So yeah, but I

1585
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: I hate to look through that. I hate to look

1586
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: through the I hate to look through the uh the

1587
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: leaves of the jungle because it's Uh, it's toughen up

1588
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: with the raisings of the Steelers and the Browns coming

1589
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: in here. And it's been like that for twenty years. Yeah,

1590
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: it is, man, It's an absolute meat grinder. Thanks for

1591
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: your time today, Jeff. Really appreciate your pal. I have

1592
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: a great summer. Guys. Nice to saying I've I've been

1593
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: around for a while. It's a nice way of saying

1594
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm old. But never you too, buddy. That's Jeff Hobson,

1595
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: our buddy with the Bengals senior writer down there. Yeah,

1596
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: they're flying high. They've they've got anything, uh going the

1597
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: way that they need to their lined up. They've got

1598
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: great drafts um and organizationally, they're coming along and I

1599
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: think those the Blackburn family, it seems like they're kind

1600
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: of turning the page a little bit and getting everybody

1601
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: where they need to be in terms of how they

1602
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: go about their business. Well, it is. When you have

1603
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback, you can start making asks of things

1604
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: to improve things, your facilities, putting in a winter facility, Uh,

1605
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: just in general upgrading things, spending more money on your roster.

1606
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: It's a little things they weren't doing too. I mean

1607
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: we would have guys they weren't they previously weren't doing

1608
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: We'd have guys, you know, come in who would been

1609
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: down there. I've I've known guys in the league who

1610
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: had been down there. It was a little things from

1611
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: like you going for a workout as a free agent

1612
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: and they don't give you any gear, or they would

1613
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: charge you for food, that type of stuff, like they don't,

1614
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: they're not doing that stuff anymore. So that's headed in

1615
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the right direction and needed. Like if you want you

1616
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: want everybody in your division to be competitive, I mean this, look,

1617
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: it's when we get to as we are intended to be.

1618
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: Whenever that is um and you look around and this

1619
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: roster is what it will be as it's intended to be.

1620
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: The Bengals, the Ravens, and if I mean for the Steelers,

1621
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: is just a matter of do they land on any

1622
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks or any of those guys that hit

1623
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: at quarterback um. But if not, the rest of the

1624
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,520
Speaker 1: rosters decent um. But the touch us the Ravens and Cincinnati,

1625
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 1: that's that's brutal. That's brutal. Getting out of that, and

1626
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: then you go to the rest of the a f

1627
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 1: C and you start to see what's what's being done

1628
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: around the league. Um Burrow had the crazy I mean,

1629
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: it's the reason I asked him about the UM. I've

1630
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: heard this from several people. Burrow basically, I mean, he's

1631
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: all in Cincinnati, fully moved there. He doesn't go anywhere

1632
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: in the off season. He stays in Cincinnati. That's it, UM.

1633
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: And I do think that that's pretty healthy when your

1634
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback is at the facility all the time. Like

1635
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: that's a win when he lives there in the off season. Um.

1636
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, we just acquired to Sean this year, but

1637
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: we have to since I've been here, we even had

1638
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: that happen where people are here all off season. That

1639
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: that's not what people sign up for. No, not in

1640
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: the middle of February when the sun doesn't come out

1641
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: for twenty eight days. No, it doesn't. But he did

1642
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: down there. He stuck around and and did it. And

1643
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the reasons Zack down

1644
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,560
Speaker 1: there was the head coach was saying, look, you know

1645
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: these stuff, these things aren't mandatory because it was gonna

1646
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: be anyway because Joe demanded it. That's that's how that's

1647
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: how you build it. They it's amazing they picked the

1648
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: one year to be bad and then he was the

1649
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: kid who was available in the draft. Uh. We'll continue this.

1650
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with the Ravens and also the Steelers

1651
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: coming up this week and see how their off seasons were.

1652
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's is obviously very very successful. Still so much more

1653
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

1654
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily on eight D ESPN Cleveland. All Right, so, Gibby,

1655
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: uh is um doing you send me an animal something

1656
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: from the right. So there's a guy he looks like

1657
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: he's in the bushes hunt. Oh my, and it's an elk.

1658
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: It's an elk coming adding a thousand miles an hour,

1659
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: and the elks smokes him. The elk smokes the hunter. Um,

1660
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: and oh boy got him in the eye or did

1661
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: the butt of the gut? Boy? I mean, that is

1662
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: a full day. Didn't expect that when you went hunting

1663
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: this morning? No, But in a way I think that

1664
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: that's appropriate. That's what you get. I think we all

1665
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: understand it. Like, if you're going out hunting, there's a

1666
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: chance that I mean, sometimes you get the bar, sometimes

1667
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: the bar gets you or in this case, sometimes the

1668
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: elk gets you. Yeah, don't don't committ me. My job

1669
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: is to take you out. Now, that's going to take

1670
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: me out. Holy cow, have you ever seen an elk

1671
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: in person? Gibbe yes in Maine. I didn't know they

1672
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: had him in Maine. Probably do, might be wrong, well,

1673
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: moose or even bigger. Whatever. Whatever I saw up there,

1674
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was that elk. I mean that would

1675
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: add up that they would have them there. I mean,

1676
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: you're far enough north. Whatever it was, I wanted no

1677
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: part of it. I'm like, that thing could screw up

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Speaker 1: a vehicle, all right, So there's no elk. The Eastern

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Speaker 1: elk disappeared from Maine in the seventeen hundreds. Sad. So

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Speaker 1: it's got to be moose, all right. Then I saw

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Speaker 1: a giant loose. Well they're even bigger, yeah yeah yeah

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Speaker 1: moose population. Yeah, you're good. That's where you saw? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: moose or even bigger? Oh yeah, oh yeah, lots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're a full day. They're beautiful animals, they're fun, they're

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Speaker 1: good time. Don't get near him, though. Horns are sharp

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Speaker 1: and pointy. The next level is coming up next. We're

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