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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody? Welcome into a Friday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Ive. Maddi glab along side of NFL analyst Chris

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Speaker 2: Jrpasso here today filling in for Chris Brown and Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 2: The final show of the week. We have one more

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Speaker 2: show here in Buffalo at One Bill's Drive before we

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Speaker 2: take a show on the road to the NFL Scouting

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Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis. We will be there Tuesday day through

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Speaker 2: Friday doing shows and man, oh man, let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: we have some awesome guests lined up. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk everything NFL Scouting Combine, everything NFL Draft, what they

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Speaker 2: think about being the number twenty six pick for Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: what they should go after, and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: I will be there.

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Speaker 2: I'll be running all over the NFL Scouting Combine, listening

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Speaker 2: into prospects, hearing from our new head coach Joe Brady

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Speaker 2: and our general manager Brandon Bean. Is going to be

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Speaker 2: a week full of content. So we are so excited

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Speaker 2: to bring you all of that. But alas one slow

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Speaker 2: Friday left before we kind of dive into the deep

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Speaker 2: end of the busyness of the NFL offseason. Before we

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Speaker 2: get to football, we got to talk Olympics, because, hello,

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Speaker 2: women's hockey. The USA defeats Canada yesterday to win gold.

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Speaker 2: The game goes to overtime. We were on air for

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Speaker 2: most of the game, so it's not like we were

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Speaker 2: able to tune in while we were doing the show,

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Speaker 2: so I was catching up on it after the show.

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Speaker 2: We were actually taping some interviews after the show and

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Speaker 2: happened to be taping with someone who came over from

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Speaker 2: Canada for the interview, and the game was in overtime,

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Speaker 2: so we kind of sat in the control room and

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Speaker 2: watched the game and we were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: USA versus Canada, the pride of who wins, and I'm

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Speaker 3: With anybody winning. Like I love Canada.

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Speaker 2: There are friends like right across the way, so I'm

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Speaker 2: good of Canada wins too, And like, as I'm saying

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Speaker 2: that USA scores a goal to win gold, awesome for

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Speaker 2: the USA women's hockey team.

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Speaker 3: Awesome for women's sports too.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people tuned in to

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Speaker 2: hockey at the Olympics, specifically women's hockey, which is awesome

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Speaker 2: to see and I love seeing a lot of the

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Speaker 2: content that went out kind of surrounding women's hockey at

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Speaker 2: the Olympics. Did you catch any of the highlights went so?

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Speaker 4: On my way home, I stopped at Consumers to get

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Speaker 4: some drinks for the weekend, and they it was like

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Speaker 4: everyone that was working there and a bunch of guys

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Speaker 4: getting some beer were watching the overtime. So I actually

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Speaker 4: and then I stayed and like stood there for five

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Speaker 4: minutes and saw the game winning goal, which was an

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Speaker 4: awesome goal by a defenseman, and what a good game

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Speaker 4: that USA tied it late after they pulled their goalie

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Speaker 4: at one one in overtime. It was what the first

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Speaker 4: gold medal since twenty eighteen for the team USA Women's

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Speaker 4: and only the third gold medal for the US women's

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Speaker 4: hockey team since nineteen ninety eight, So it was a

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Speaker 4: pretty big achievement in a huge moment and a just

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Speaker 4: awesome game. The golden goal was fantastic. It just a

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Speaker 4: great move getting open and tapping that in. It was

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Speaker 4: one of the better games. Yeah, great pass to get

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Speaker 4: up ice. I don't know if I love the three

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Speaker 4: But that's the format that they chose, and it was

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Speaker 4: i think golden goals that we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada scored first in the second period. There were

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Speaker 2: four minutes into overtime with that winning goal by Megan Keller.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of Western New York Natives on the

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Speaker 2: back with a gold medal. Hailey Skimura and Hailey win

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Speaker 2: And Skimura has won a bunch of medals with women's hockey.

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Speaker 3: And just looking at some of the interviews.

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Speaker 2: of when the men are competing, which is today at

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Speaker 2: three ten against Slovakia in the semi finals. USA enters

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Speaker 2: Canada and Finland are currently playing.

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Speaker 3: Don't know the score.

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Speaker 4: They're tied two to two, two to two, okay, three

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Speaker 4: to two. Canada just scored from our producer Jeff in

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Speaker 4: the control room. Canada's scored. They were down two to

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Speaker 4: So it looks like Canada is going to move on

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Speaker 4: If you ask men can hold on and beat Slovakia,

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Speaker 4: they are favorited or they are favorites in the game. Yep,

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Speaker 4: if they can hold on to win, We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: How cool? I believe that game is Sunday morning. I

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Speaker 4: I think Sunday is the last day of the Olympics. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: if we get there. Hopefully tam us they can win today.

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Speaker 3: How cool?

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Speaker 2: Have you tuned into other Olympic events? What? What have

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Speaker 2: become the expert of this sport. For the two weeks

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Speaker 4: Wife and I every have just been tuning in as

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Speaker 4: every four years. Let's just see all these kind of

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Speaker 4: of those events. And you're obviously always rooting for Team USA,

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Speaker 4: I have no idea how that happened. So we've really

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Speaker 4: just tried to take in everything. Last night we watched

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Speaker 4: I believe Alyssa lou of Team USA win in whatever

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Speaker 4: ski figure skating that was incredible and how they spin

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Speaker 4: so athletic, concentration, balance, the whole thing. So just taking

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Speaker 4: then you realize they're skating like fifteen hundred meters and

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Speaker 4: they have to turn perfectly. So much of the intricacies

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Speaker 2: I also play the game of Like, which is a

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Speaker 2: plays this game while the Olympics are on, but it's like, hmm, well,

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Speaker 3: But I think it's so.

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Speaker 2: Cool to watch, and I love following the storylines and

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Speaker 2: getting to hear about these athletes, where they're from, how

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Speaker 2: the sport. Talking yesterday about snowboarding and skiing, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm a Winter Olympics gall. I like the Winter Olympics

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Speaker 2: also think halfpipe is so cool and it was really

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Speaker 2: fun to watch Chloe Kim what she did get a

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Speaker 2: been funny to see like Snoop Dogg in the crowd

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Speaker 2: it's like two hours later and you're still watching Mike Cherico,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And quite the February for Mike Turico to go

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Speaker 4: just host the primetime Olympics coverage for NBC's it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: And to me, it's like, yeah, it's been relaxing at night,

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Speaker 4: like ninety miles an hour and turning. It's like not

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Speaker 4: relaxing to actually watch and you think about it. And

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Speaker 4: when we watched the luge, it was like seeing how

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Speaker 4: once every four years. Right.

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Speaker 2: We went to Lake Placid for the bye week and

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Speaker 2: got to check out all the Olympic areas there and

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Speaker 2: it was fun to go see like Bob sled, see skeleton.

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Speaker 3: Team Brazil was there.

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Speaker 2: We were October was a bye week, so we were

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Speaker 2: there in October and someone from Team Brazil was practicing

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Speaker 2: and so people will travel in from different countries to

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Speaker 3: But Lake Placid obviously keeps those going. We also got

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Speaker 4: of Tennessee they run a very weird system that you

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Speaker 4: would maybe remember that is really wide splits, where like

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Speaker 4: the wide receivers are almost on the boundary, like almost

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Speaker 4: on the sideline, a lot of go balls, a lot

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Speaker 4: of posts, a lot of screens. To go back to

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Speaker 4: the Bills. When Zay Jones entered the league out of

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Speaker 4: East Carolina, he was getting screened six, seven, eight, nine

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Speaker 4: times a game. He set I think it's still the record,

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Speaker 4: the single game catch record at East Carolina, not because

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Speaker 4: he was getting open a ton, but they just got

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Speaker 4: him the ball frequently. So there always is that learning

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Speaker 4: curve for route running ability at the next level for

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Speaker 4: any of these players, even if they are in college

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Speaker 4: for four or five years and they stayed because of

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Speaker 4: the nil. You want to see the athleticism in the traits,

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Speaker 4: which I think is why it's so important to pay

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Speaker 4: attention to the NFL combine to see can I envision

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Speaker 4: this player with the smoothness and the suddenness needed to

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Speaker 4: separate at the top of that route stem. Can I

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Speaker 4: see him in two or three years becoming a Stefan

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Speaker 4: Diggs or DeVante Adams or JSN. That's what I think

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Speaker 4: is the hardest thing to project about evaluating the wide

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Speaker 4: receiver position.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to a Bringer podcast with Danny Kelly

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Speaker 2: and he was talking about how some of his comps

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Speaker 2: with wide receivers, prospects that are going to be drafted

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Speaker 2: are not comps to like number one wide receivers, and

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Speaker 2: the other people on the podcast with him were upset that, like,

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Speaker 2: why aren't you comping these guys to like number one

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Speaker 2: wide receivers in the NFL, why isn't everybody comped to

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Speaker 2: a number one wide out? And he's like, look like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to comp everybody to a number one

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Speaker 2: because that's almost too easy to do, and I don't

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Speaker 2: want to be comping these guys to number ones if

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Speaker 2: they're not going to turn into a number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: There's growth that has to happen at the next level,

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Speaker 2: which then you get to earn becoming a number one

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Speaker 2: wide receiver. That's where coaching staffs are so important. Like

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Speaker 2: you say, nobody comes into the NFL one hundred percent polished,

478
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Speaker 2: knows everything about every offense is perfect at the route tree.

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Speaker 2: You have to learn and some of that is on

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Speaker 2: you as an athlete to be committed to learn and

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Speaker 2: committed to grow, but also a lot of that is

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Speaker 2: on the coaching staff. And having a good coaching staff

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Speaker 2: who can understand a player's strengths and then develop them

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Speaker 2: into becoming the best version of themselves, I think is

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Speaker 2: something that is so so important. And yes they're pros,

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Speaker 2: but you still need coaches who can help a guy

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Speaker 2: go from a B minus player to a player.

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Speaker 4: Another layer to that too, is what I've realized over

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Speaker 4: the years is that we do have this fascination in

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Speaker 4: like the fantasy football time that we're in of skill

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Speaker 4: position players. We're talking about wide receivers. It's not a

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Speaker 4: great quarterback class, but there are teams that are into

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, running backs as well skill position players. Why

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Speaker 4: I think it is so hard to project them forward

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Speaker 4: is that they are all contingent upon other players. Wide

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Speaker 4: receivers are very contingent upon the coaches, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: and the scheme and all that, But who's their quarterback,

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Speaker 4: who's throwing them? The football? Running backs, they're very their

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Speaker 4: production in the NFL is very relied upon the offensive

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Speaker 4: line in front of them, and does their quarterback strike

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Speaker 4: fear in the opponents where they're not loading the box continually.

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Speaker 4: The other positions edge rusher, the non skill positions edge rusher, linebacker, corner,

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Speaker 4: it's how good can you play on a given rep?

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Speaker 4: And can you stop the opponent from throwing the pass

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Speaker 4: or catching the pass? Wide receiver is very difficult, and

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Speaker 4: we do see a lot of players that start their

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Speaker 4: career slowly, either get cut or traded and then ultimately

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Speaker 4: take off and vice versa. Because it is very situation dependent,

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Speaker 4: which is coaches and the other teammates and other players

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Speaker 4: on their team. That's why we saw Stefan Diggs go

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Speaker 4: from a pretty decent wide receiver to the best in

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Speaker 4: the NFL in twenty twenty in terms of catches and

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Speaker 4: receiving yards because of who was throwing him the ball.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of times you do an evaluation, you

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Speaker 4: feel great about a player and just where he lands

516
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Speaker 4: at wide receiver ultimately is not the best situation that's

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Speaker 4: conducive to him to ultimately develop into a good player

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Speaker 4: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: To your point yesterday as well, about what type of

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Speaker 2: offense will Buffalo run in twenty twenty six? Going to

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Speaker 2: run back the best rushing offense in the NFL and

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Speaker 2: hand James Cook the rock as much as possible, And

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Speaker 2: your point was, well, look at Brady's work since coming

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Speaker 2: to the Bills. Look at what he did with LSU

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Speaker 2: and with Carolina. It was a pass happy offense, that

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Speaker 2: LSU offense that had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase set

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Speaker 2: records with Joe Burrow and they threw the ball all

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Speaker 2: over the yard. So maybe now with Joe Brady as

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Speaker 2: head coach, you see a shift to lean a little

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Speaker 2: bit more to passing the football rather than being a

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty split on run versus pass. I say

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Speaker 2: this knowing that every single game is dependent on what

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Speaker 2: type of defense you're gonna play. There are gonna be

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Speaker 2: games where the Bills decide to run the football down

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Speaker 2: an opponent's throat because that's what works. But as they're

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Speaker 2: evaluating wide receivers in this draft class and free agency,

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Speaker 2: they may think we can have a bigger presence out

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Speaker 2: of this group because we're going to target them more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And like last thing I'll say on this is

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Speaker 4: that beyond the fact that I'm a huge advocate of

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Speaker 4: throwing the football and that being the best way and

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Speaker 4: most efficient way to move the football in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Tying this back to James Cook, I think at this

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Speaker 4: stage of his career and he's not to a point

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Speaker 4: where he man he's going to fall off a cliff,

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Speaker 4: but to continue to keep his efficiency at a high level,

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Speaker 4: I think it would behoove Joe Brady and his philosophy

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Speaker 4: to say we are not going to run James Cook

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty three hundred times over the next

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Speaker 4: couple seasons each year, Let's utilize him in the pass game.

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Speaker 4: Let's maybe draft another running back or sign a veteran

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Speaker 4: and use a legitimate committee to still get quality value

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Speaker 4: from that three year deal that he signed last year.

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Speaker 4: It would just seems like the perfect time for the

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Speaker 4: Bills to transition back to the Brian Dable and Ken

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Speaker 4: Dorsey era, where they were passing the football sixty to

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Speaker 4: sixty five and almost in some games seventy percent of

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Speaker 4: the time, as opposed to more of the fifty to

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Speaker 4: fifty split that they had the last two seasons with

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermot as the head coach.

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Speaker 2: James Cook had two hundred and seven rushing attempts in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. That number bounced up to three hundred

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Speaker 2: and nine in twenty twenty five, got six hundred more

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Speaker 2: rushing yards because of those extra one hundred attempts.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break, but when we return, dipping.

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Speaker 2: Back into some more news from around the NFL, team

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Speaker 2: is figuring out who their offensive coordinator is going to be,

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Speaker 2: and we'll hit you with Bill's top ten plays next

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Ive represented by Clyde Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio We're back here on Bill's Live continuing the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver conversations because a couple pieces of news came

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Speaker 2: out earlier today and yesterday. One of those regarding Patriots

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Mac Hollins. He received a pot sweetener, according

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Speaker 2: to SPA Track, adding a four hundred thousand dollars signing

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Speaker 2: bonus to his twenty twenty six compensation. Hollins, who's thirty

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Speaker 2: two years old, is now set to earn a base

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Speaker 2: of four point three million next season, with another million

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Speaker 2: available with incentives.

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Speaker 4: Well, he stayed put.

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Speaker 2: I would say he's staying put with the new England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a good like floor setter, Like you

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Speaker 4: want him to be the floor of your wide receiver room.

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Speaker 4: You know what you're gonna get. He's a good blocker,

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Speaker 4: he's a camaraderie guy. He can make a few plays

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Speaker 4: down the field because he has that long striding speed

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Speaker 4: and certainly Bills fans know that he can make the

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Speaker 4: catch in traffic. But you know, at this stage in

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Speaker 4: his thirties, like what type of wide receiver he is.

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Speaker 4: And he did have the touchdown in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: that got the Patriots on the board late in the

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Speaker 4: I guess at the early stages of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: He's a good floor guy in your wide receiver room,

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Speaker 4: and I think Drake May was probably a big part

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Speaker 4: of like, Hey, I want to keep this veteran on

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Speaker 4: the roster, as presumably the Patriots are going to bring

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Speaker 4: in some other younger wide receivers to that room.

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Speaker 1: This okay.

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Speaker 2: So Hollins had some big time catches down the stretch

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Speaker 2: for the Patriots toward the end of the season and

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I feel like he was a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver who Drake May trusted out there and knew that

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Speaker 2: he was going to do whatever it took to get

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Speaker 2: open and make a play. You spoke about that touchdown

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Speaker 2: Hollins had in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He's such a good.

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Speaker 2: Clue guy in a locker room too, and I think

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Speaker 2: really elevates the effort that people play with because he.

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Speaker 3: Comes with it.

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Speaker 2: He is a one hundred and fifty percent effort type

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Speaker 2: of guy is going to put it all on the

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Speaker 2: line to do whatever he needs to do to grab

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Speaker 2: the football and help his team win. I think that

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Speaker 2: really helps a unit as a whole, especially a unit

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Speaker 2: that's attached to a younger core yes.

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Speaker 4: That's that's absolutely perfect. And I think that's probably why

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Speaker 4: we got this little bit of news before the NFL

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Speaker 4: Combine that they're like, hey, we're not making yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: not making any major announcement, but like everything with the

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Speaker 4: with the sweetener in his deal indicates that Matt Collins

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Speaker 4: will be on the Patriots next season.

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Speaker 2: So another article came out relating to wide receiver and

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Speaker 2: some potential trade off is interesting tied to different teams.

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Speaker 2: The Bills were one of the teams that ESPN wrote about.

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Speaker 2: It was trade offers for Eagles wide receiver AJ Brown. Now,

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Speaker 2: the four teams that were written about as potential trade

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Speaker 2: offers Cleveland Brown's, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: This is speculation, by the way, These are not actual

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Speaker 4: trade offers that are on no like okay, that are

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Speaker 4: not on the table.

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Speaker 3: Just ESPN riders having.

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Speaker 4: Some funn Okay, Okay, that's good to.

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Speaker 2: Know potential trade offers in their eyes as to what

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Speaker 2: would work if AJ Brown is available and if a

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Speaker 2: team could get them in terms of what Buffalo would

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Speaker 2: have to do. According to Dan Graziano, he says the

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Speaker 2: Eagles would get a twenty twenty six first round pick.

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Speaker 2: That's number twenty six for Buffalo and the Bills get

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Speaker 2: Aj Brown. Why this deal makes sense. Josh Allen could

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Speaker 2: really benefit from a true number one wide receiver to

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Speaker 2: stress defenses, and Brown's twenty twenty six contract is not

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Speaker 2: an overpay financially for a top wide receiver. It's tough

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Speaker 2: to imagine Buffalo getting a surefire, instant impact playmaker at

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Speaker 2: its current draft slot in the first round, so why

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Speaker 2: not use it to get a veteran? Is there a

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Speaker 2: more win now situation than Buffalo? As for the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: a first round pick for a twenty eight year old

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Speaker 2: wide receiver with only a year of guaranteed money left

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Speaker 2: on his contract doesn't sound like a bad Where do

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Speaker 2: you land on this?

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Speaker 4: I think Dan Graziano did a good job like justifying

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Speaker 4: that side of it and that he would represent Aj

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Speaker 4: Brown obviously the short term win now when a super

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Speaker 4: Bowl figure it out later idea, and again we talked

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Speaker 4: about this yesterday. It all comes down to where, like,

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Speaker 4: how are you thinking about this? If that is the

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Speaker 4: overarching philosophy in the Bills headquarters, then yeah, it would

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Speaker 4: make a lot of sense to me. I'm a little

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Speaker 4: bit down on it because he has a couple of

659
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 4: strikes against him in terms of getting him to Buffalo.

660
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Speaker 4: That he's going to cost a fair amount of money.

661
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Speaker 4: Now they're again not having any guaranteed money after twenty

662
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: six certainly helps in that regard. It's maybe not a

663
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Speaker 4: huge red mark on this idea. He's going to be

664
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Speaker 4: twenty nine, and we've seen a lot of the elite

665
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: receivers twenty nine, thirty thirty one. They can still be good.

666
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: Mike Evans was still good. Stefon Diggs had a good

667
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: year in his thirties. But that's when you start to

668
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: get a little leery about expecting the elite production and

669
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: the fact that you would have to trade your twenty

670
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: twenty six first rounder in this proposition to get aj Brown.

671
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: So there's like two and a half strikes against him

672
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: in terms of the idea to bring him to Buffalo.

673
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: But if he were here, he is your classic ex

674
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: wide receiver. He is not someone that is going to

675
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: run super fancy routes, but he is going to win

676
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: with his body. He is spectacular after the catch and

677
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 4: very very surehanded. Now, the last season in Philadelphia was

678
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 4: not very good. I think Jalen Hurts is a little

679
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: bit limited and that Josh Allen would potentially elevate what

680
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 4: AJ Brown can do. Even at this stage of his career.

681
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: He would certainly be a game plan nightmare for the

682
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: opposition if he was on this Bills team. So from

683
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: those perspectives, it makes sense, just not my favorite idea

684
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 4: because of what it would cost to acquire AJ Brown,

685
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: and then in probably two or three years, you would

686
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: have to be doing the same thing trying to find

687
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 4: another number one wide receiver because at thirty one two

688
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: you're not going to be leaning on AJ Brown to

689
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: be that guy anymore.

690
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: It's also such an interesting point to think about what

691
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: the next few years mean for the Bills and Josh Allen,

692
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: with where he's at in his NFL career, set to

693
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: play in his tenth season in twenty twenty six.

694
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: Where do you believe the guy is at with.

695
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: One hundred percent still left in the tank and when

696
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: that starts to taper off, do you believe that there's

697
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: still five years left of Josh Allen being at the

698
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: top of the mountain?

699
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: Is that a little bit shorter?

700
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: How do you look at what the quarterback did in

701
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: the last couple seasons and what he's capable of in

702
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: the seasons ahead, and are you trying to really give

703
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: Alan everything he needs in the next few years, because

704
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: that's when you believe the window is as open as

705
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: it will ever be based soul on what your quarterback

706
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: is capable of.

707
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the ultimate question. And I'm sure the

708
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: Bills are probably having those internal discussions. I don't know

709
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: if they're necessarily having it with the entire staff, but

710
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: Joe Brady, Brandon Bean and company, the guys at the

711
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 4: top are probably trying to project forward. Do we feel

712
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: Josh Allen can be in the running for the best

713
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: player in the NFL the next three years, five years,

714
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: seven years, eight years, Like how many more years do

715
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: you have as that ultimate advantage that the Bills have

716
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: over any other team, that their quarterback steps on the

717
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 4: field and is going to be a bigger mismatch and

718
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: more of a game changer than the other team's quarterback

719
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: and anyone else on the field. That maybe blends into

720
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: or needs to be baked into the idea of are

721
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: we going short term solution or are we thinking long

722
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: term and maybe selecting a wide receiver in the first round.

723
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: I will say too, though I have the draft bias.

724
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: I'm always like, hey, go with the draft because you're

725
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: getting someone young. You feel good about a young receiver

726
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: being able to take off with Josh Allen as as

727
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: his quarterback. And even though Keon Coleman ultimately hasn't worked

728
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: out the way the Bills have liked, it doesn't mean

729
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: you don't take another swing at the plate. So that's

730
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: where I always lean and I can totally at the

731
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: same time understand anyone that is like, get aj Brown,

732
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: get Mike Evans, get that veteran that I know, I've

733
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: seen him, I know what he can do in the NFL,

734
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl, and then figure it out later.

735
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean, from from that perspective of we're all in

736
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: now versus years down the road, has always been pretty

737
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: clear on we're not trying to be incredibly talented one

738
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: year and completely screw ourselves for the next three years

739
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: based on salaries, based on us trading away a bunch

740
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: of picks to go get that one player. So he's

741
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: always thought from a perspective of we want to we

742
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: want to be good for a good amount of time

743
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: rather then be one and done, and Allen's played in

744
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: eight years now. He's got his ninth year coming up.

745
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: I thought it was ten because I just feel like

746
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: he's been in the bague for ten years now.

747
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: But next year is year nine for him.

748
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Speaker 4: It's really good that you bring that up. And I

749
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: can understand that Bills fans being upset, like, hey, they've

750
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: been so so good for so long, but you haven't

751
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: even gotten to a Super Bowl. I get that, But

752
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: I do think there is something to be said for

753
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean making those statements the last four or five

754
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 4: years that we're trying to stay really good and get

755
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: another crack at it. They've had some super weird things

756
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: happen in playoff losses, and beyond that, you need to

757
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: look at it comparatively. Look what happened to the Chiefs

758
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: this past year, and of course they've won three super Bowls,

759
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 4: Like totally different story. Look what happened to the Cincinnati

760
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: Bengals that they've gotten to a super Bowl, didn't win it,

761
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: and have been kind of a train wreck ever since.

762
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: So there is not that they're necessarily gonna hang a

763
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: banner for being very good for seven years. But the

764
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: Bills have been a legit like in the top three

765
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: in August when it comes to Super Bowl odds three

766
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: to five for the last like seven years, and not

767
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: really any other teams maybe outside of the Chiefs can

768
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 4: say that. And the Chiefs are coming off a six

769
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 4: and eleven season, So I think, even though it hasn't

770
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: amounted to a Super Bowl appearance or Super Bowl victory,

771
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean's philosophy of keeping this roster near the top

772
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: of the league, not shoving all the chips to the

773
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: table and leaving the roster in wreckage financially afterward, it

774
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: actually has worked because this team has been right there

775
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: as a team that no other opposition wants to play

776
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: since twenty twenty, so that I think makes sense for

777
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: them to continue that path of We feel Josh Allen

778
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 4: at thirty has a long way to go before he's

779
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: not an elite quarterback anymore. And I wonder if that

780
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 4: is the philosophy or if Joe Brady's ascension in promotion

781
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: changes that philosophy at all.

782
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: And we'll hear more about draft strategy, about free agency

783
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: in just a couple of days when Joe Brady and

784
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean meet with the media at the NFL scouting combine.

785
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: We are just days away from starting to see some

786
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: of these pieces come together, start to see the picture

787
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: become more clear. It first comes from Joe Brady and

788
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean, and then it's the moves that are going

789
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: to happen when free agency begins on March eleventh. We

790
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: got to take a break, but when we return, we're

791
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: cracking up in the tweet sheet. Any questions that you

792
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: have today for us, send them our way because it's

793
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: the Friday fan mail Bag and we're talking about it.

794
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Speaker 2: Next on One Bill's Live, represented by Clyde Health on

795
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio One Bill's I met Glave alongside of

796
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Chris Terrpasso. We wanted to hit you with the top

797
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: ten Bills plays. NFL Network on their social channels released

798
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: the top ten Bills plays from the twenty twenty five season.

799
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 3: You can go on to Twitter to check that out.

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00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the top three. Coming in

801
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: at number three was against the Bucks third and three.

802
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: The Bills were down by three. Josh Allen steps back

803
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: to throw. The pocket is collapsing. He holds onto the

804
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: ball for what seems like ten seconds as he kind

805
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: of weaves his way around to find somebody.

806
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: Instead of just a.

807
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Short completion to get the first down, he whips it

808
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: down the sideline to Tyrell Shaver who scores to take

809
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 2: the lead.

810
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: It was an awesome play.

811
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Tyrell Shavers had such a big game. It was like

812
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: a coming out party for him that game, and it

813
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: was awesome to see Josh Allen's trust in the younger

814
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: wide receiver as he made a great play to make

815
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: sure he came down to the ball for a touchdown.

816
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: That game for Josh Allen, to me, felt like how

817
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: Josh Josh Allen was Yeah, Like looked like he was

818
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: going to scramble to his right, slammed on the brakes,

819
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: looked back to the left side of the field, sees

820
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: Shavers streaking wide open, and just fires the football like

821
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: fifty five yards in the air. They threw the ball

822
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: all over the lot in that game. Josh Allen had

823
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: a spectacular performance against a pretty good defense and a

824
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: defensive minded head coach, and Tyrell Shavers almost had one

825
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: hundred yards in that game. So to me, that was

826
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: the contest midway point of the season where Josh Allen

827
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 4: I think in a year that early on was I

828
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: really think dominated by James Cook's emergence and someone that

829
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: was going to compete to maybe win the rushing title,

830
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: which he ultimately did. That was a game that featured

831
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: throws underneath intermediate level and then that big one down

832
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: the field to Tyrrell Shavers that reminded the league that

833
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is still Josh Allen.

834
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: The Bills won that game forty four to thirty two.

835
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Josh Allen threw for three hundred and seventeen yards, also

836
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, and Shavers had four catches for ninety yards

837
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: and that big, big touchdown forty three yard touchdown pass

838
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: from Josh Allen.

839
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Speaker 3: Coming in at number two.

840
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: Wasn't a game that Buffalo won, but there were some

841
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: notable plays against the Texans. Bills were down four and

842
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: what happens on a kickoff, Well, Ray Davis is in

843
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: a great position and returns the ball for a touchdown.

844
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: I feel like that was the beginning when we kind

845
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: of started to get a taste of, like, ooh, Ray

846
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: Davis is pretty dang good at this kick return and

847
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: good at just returning the football the way that he

848
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: spins away from defenders and weaves his way through open

849
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: spaces to find a way to get into the end zone.

850
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of athletic ability to do that,

851
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: and that's why it's the.

852
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: Second best play of the Bill's season.

853
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one has to be. I mean, it's been

854
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: a while since we've seen the Bills have a kick

855
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: return for a touchdown. This was right in the point

856
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: of the season two where ray Davis had not any

857
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: other kickoff return scores, but had four or five in

858
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: a row that were getting out to the forty fifty,

859
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: crossing the fifty yard line. And anytime in today's NFL

860
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: that you're past midfield, you're essentially in field goal range.

861
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: And Matt Prater was so good for the Bills, they

862
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: were in field goal range at that point. So this

863
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: was I think the exclamation mark for Ray Davis being

864
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: a first team All Pro kick returner in his second season.

865
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Speaker 2: It was a ninety seven yard kick return touchdown gave

866
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: Buffalo the three point lead. They do end up losing

867
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: that game twenty three to nineteen.

868
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: A little bit of a heartbreaker there for Buffalo.

869
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: The number one play of the game didn't come on offense,

870
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: it came on defense.

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00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: It has to be this one.

872
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: It was against the Cincinnati Bengals. I think you already

873
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: know what play this is, but Christian Benford comes down

874
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: on a corner blitz on Joe Burrow and puts his

875
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: hands up at the perfect time, intercepts the football and

876
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: runs it in for the touchdown. This was when the

877
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: games started to get really good. It was a lot

878
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: of fun to watch Benford play out of his mind.

879
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, early in the season, there was a lot of

880
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: talk that Benford was regressing a little, that maybe that

881
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: we would maybe pushed him into this elite corner level

882
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: when he was not ready for that. This was later

883
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: in the year. Of course, you see the snow flying

884
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: and that was just a fun like snow globe kind

885
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: of game. But it was right then, at that moment,

886
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: that I think Christian Benford put the exclamation mark on

887
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: his season that yes, he absolutely is one of the

888
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: top ten to twelve cornerbacks in the NFL ball scales

889
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: man coverage ability breaks. The little arm tackle attempt from

890
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow to accelerate down the field and outrun Jamar

891
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 4: Chase for six This was to me the turning point

892
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: in the game, and that up until that point, the

893
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: Bill's defense was having problems with Burrow coming back from injury,

894
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins had a great game.

895
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: Christian Benford cemented himself and said, hey, look, I am

896
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: still in elite level corner. That's cornerback one on this

897
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: Bills team.

898
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: The Bills were down by three at that point in

899
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: the game with just over five minutes to play in

900
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Benford's sixty three yard interception return touchdown

901
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: gave them the thirty two to twenty eight score at

902
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: that point in the game, and the Bills end up

903
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: winning that game thirty nine to thirty four later.

904
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: In the season.

905
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: It was definitely a good confidence building game for the

906
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: Bills in Week fourteen. That was a part of their

907
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: big win streak when they won four straight against the Steelers, Bengals, Patriots,

908
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: and Browns, dropped one to the Eagles in week seventeen

909
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: before beating the Jets in Week eighteen.

910
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: So those are your top ten plays. We covered the

911
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: top three.

912
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: If you want to check those out, head to NFL's

913
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: Twitter account because they're available there. We are going to

914
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: break into the tweet sheet in our next segment. We're

915
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: going to take a break here and reset in the

916
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: two o'clock segment, Come in your way with our latest

917
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: mock draft. Watch you want to stick around for this

918
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: because we're gonna break down a few different players, wide receivers,

919
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: defensive tackles, show you maybe some good fits for Buffalo.

920
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 2: What makes sense for Buffalo at twenty six we're talking

921
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: about about it all. Next on One Bill's Live, we're

922
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: presented by Clyde Help on Buffalo Bills.

923
00:49:28,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, this is One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

924
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: Thank you.

925
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: Our number two of One Bill's Live on Friday afternoon,

926
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: Mattie Glab alongside of NFL analyst Chris Trapasso as we

927
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: fill in for Chris Brown and Steve Tasker, just days

928
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: away from the NFL scouting combine one more show here

929
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: in Orchard Park on Monday afternoon, and then Chris and

930
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: Tasker and Jay Harris myself are gonna load up in

931
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: our s u V and drive on down to Indianapolis

932
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: for the week. I am so excited. It's one of

933
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: my favorite events of the year. I love talking about

934
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft and I love getting to talk to

935
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: these prospects. Chris you will be there as well, so

936
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: it'll be fun.

937
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: To see you.

938
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: What do you focus on when you're at the NFL

939
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: Scouting Combine.

940
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: Well, it is a really awesome now working event, and

941
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: it's just great to have. You can have Daniel Jeremiah

942
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: on set, you can have Charles Davis on set, field,

943
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: they eates, you can talk to so many different people.

944
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: I really like that element too, to open my eyes

945
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: to things that I maybe didn't notice on film or

946
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: a late rounder that I haven't gotten to that I

947
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: need to watch, and just picking the brains and being

948
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: able to nerd out with other people that aren't like, dude,

949
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: you've been talking about the draft for twenty minutes, Like

950
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: I'm think of this. That's what I really like. Later

951
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: in the week as the players work out. I don't

952
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: want to say that I just stare at my computer

953
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: for eight straight hours, but being able to process and

954
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: really synthesize synthesize all of the numbers is really really important.

955
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: It's something that I factor in quite a bit into

956
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: my evaluation process that most of the best players in

957
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: the NFL are really good athletes. You have to try

958
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: to look for those guys that maybe don't test well

959
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: that are really good football players. But you do get

960
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: a good sense of where players will go in the

961
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: draft based on how they work out. A wide receiver

962
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 4: runs in the four fives is not going to go

963
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 4: in the first round. A safety that runs in the

964
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: four fours with a forty inch vertical, you're suddenly talking

965
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: about him as a potential first round or so. Looking

966
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: at each position, the big risers, the guys that have

967
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: disappointing combines, it's such a fun, all encompassing event where

968
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: it's just the ultimate nerd out totally week for someone

969
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 4: like myself and you and Chris and Steve and everyone else.

970
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: It's always fun to see too, like who is that

971
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: guy who didn't go to a big school that like

972
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: jumps out of the gym that everybody starts talking about

973
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: after the scouting combine and jumps up the draft boards

974
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: to around that a lot of people didn't think he

975
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: would be drafted in. So that's one of my favorite parts.

976
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: And I also love getting to nerd out with people

977
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: and talk about these prospects. One of my favorite conversations

978
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: that I've had in years past that I feel like

979
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: we have every year is with our friend Greg co

980
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Set essentially stops by is on the show, and then

981
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: after that we just end up talking for like thirty

982
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: minutes about Buffalo's roster, what needs to happen, prospects that

983
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: he really likes, Where the Bills are at related to

984
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: other AFC teams.

985
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: Is the best.

986
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Last year when Greg was on, he like I

987
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: forgot what time he was on during the show, like

988
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: maybe at this exact time, like the two o'clock hour

989
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: to start, and he was sitting near our table like

990
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 4: an hour before, and it was like, Oh, hey, Greg,

991
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: what's up? And he just wanted to talk football right away. Yeah,

992
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 4: So we ultimately interviewed him and talked to him about

993
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: all these draft prospects. But I had just had the

994
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 4: same conversation with him and got into the weeds on

995
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: the receiver prospects and the edge rushers and some of

996
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: the tight ends before we had those conversations with him

997
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: on the air. So he is someone that has been

998
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: doing it for a long time, and it's really nice

999
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: to see that it's not with Greg co Sell and

1000
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 4: most of everyone else that is at the combine. It's

1001
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: not just for show. He could sit and talk for

1002
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: hours about draft prospects, Bills, Josh Allen, Greg Russo, Spencer Brown,

1003
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: and he really is open to doing that with really

1004
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: anyone that he can find, and you can find a

1005
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: lot of those people.

1006
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: Definitely. The mock draft watch, which we love to do

1007
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: here just keep your baby during sign It is love.

1008
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: Surveying what people are projecting for Buffalo in the first round,

1009
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: and we put it all together in a nice little story.

1010
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: So it's easy to kind of catch up on the

1011
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: latest mock drafts from the last week. So two point

1012
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: zero went out yesterday. If you haven't checked it out,

1013
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: we're going to go through some of these names. Then

1014
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: we're going to focus on four names and break those down.

1015
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: So a couple of the most recent ones that came

1016
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: out yesterday. Charles Davis had a mock draft come out.

1017
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: The Athletic had a mock draft come out. Charles Davis

1018
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: thinks wide receiver Denzel Boston out of Washington is a

1019
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: good fit for Buffalo. The Athletic decided to go with

1020
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: an edge outside linebacker Mason Thomas out of Oklahoma. In

1021
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: terms of the mock drafts tracked in this round, there

1022
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: were eleven, and of those eleven wide receiver was mocked

1023
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: to Buffalo five different times. Defensive tackles were mock to

1024
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo three times, one safety, one edge, one linebacker, so

1025
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: you get an idea of what position groups people are

1026
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: thinking makes sense for Buffalo. At twenty six. Wide receivers

1027
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: Malachi Fields and Omar Cooper Junior were the favorites of

1028
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: this round. They were each mocked to Buffalo two different times.

1029
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: We've tracked now twenty five overall, so we're just in

1030
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: the beginning. When I get done with this, the numbers

1031
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: more like one hundred and twenty two hundred and forty,

1032
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: so we still have a long ways to go so far.

1033
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: Wide receiver is the leader.

1034
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: In the clubhouse, being mocked to Buffalo eleven different times.

1035
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Linebacker and edge are right there at five for linebacker

1036
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: and four for edge, but now in a three to

1037
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: four defense, it's kind of like linebacker slash edge depending

1038
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: on what Buffalo thinks. Any names pop out to you

1039
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: in some of the latest ones that we've tracked that

1040
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: you were surprised by or you kind of thought, okay, cool.

1041
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: Not a ton of surprising ones. I did mention to

1042
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: you off off air from the Draft Network, justin Mellow

1043
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 4: linebacker Jake Galde from Cincinnati there's a lot of buzz

1044
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: for him that he's like a big like Tremaine Edmunds

1045
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: type linebacker. I have not watched him yet, so that

1046
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 4: would be technically a surprise because I haven't watched him.

1047
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: But the one that I don't think we've talked about enough,

1048
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: which we can get into here in a minute, Omar

1049
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: Cooper Junior from Indiana. And the reason why is that

1050
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 4: we've heard so much about Denzel Boston, Casey Concepcion. Could

1051
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 4: the Bills trade up for one of like the perceived

1052
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: marquee guys, the Makai Lemons, like Carnell Taits Omar Cooper Junior.

1053
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: My comparison for him pre Combine and we'll see how

1054
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 4: he works out was DJ Moore. He is that type

1055
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: of wide receiver similarly sized to DJ Moore is going

1056
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 4: to be around six foot two oh five to two

1057
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 4: ten ridiculous after the catch. He is contact balanced, cutting

1058
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: skill running back with the ball in his hands, and

1059
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 4: he catches the football very reliably too. He was like

1060
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: the one of the go to targets for Heisman winner

1061
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: and eventual number one overall pick Fernando Mendoza in that

1062
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: national title winning season at Indiana. You see a lot

1063
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: of the highlights here. He just had, whether it was

1064
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: big ten players or all of the competition in the

1065
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: college football playoff, defenders bounced off Omar Cooper Junior with

1066
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: a high regularity. So he's someone that we talked about

1067
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 4: Dj Moore as a potential trade guy in his twenty

1068
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: You know, at age twenty nine, it's going to cost

1069
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: you draft capital. You could just pick a very similar

1070
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: stylistic wide receiver in Omar Cooper Junior, who's not the

1071
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: vertical guy, but I think could be that well rounded

1072
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: type that Joe Brady might gravitate to because he has

1073
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: coached a lot of very well rounded wide receivers at

1074
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: LSU and Carolina.

1075
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: Omar Cooper Junior six feet two hundred and four pounds

1076
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: to me, you see right away, creating yards after the

1077
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: cat is his specialty. He is not afraid of contact,

1078
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: is happy to do the dirty work to fight for

1079
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: those few extra yards that move the sticks. I thought

1080
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: has decent build up speed. He's got a muscular lower

1081
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: half and that really creates some speed once he gets going.

1082
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: Cooper Junior.

1083
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: Also, just watching the tape, you get a vibe of

1084
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: he's got a decent IQ when it comes to playing

1085
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: the game of football and had thirteen touchdowns last season.

1086
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: That's a fat number. He also had an amazing touchdown

1087
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: against Penn State with thirty seconds to go. Indiana was

1088
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: down by five points. Mendoza was under pressure, fires it

1089
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: over the middle. Cooper Junior jumps out of the gym

1090
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: to come down with this pass as he's being blanketed

1091
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: by a defender. He showcases athleticism getting up to grab

1092
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: the ball and then showcase his physical caldy coming down

1093
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: with it.

1094
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: It was awesome.

1095
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 4: It was a catch where it looked like his right

1096
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: foot was going to be out of bounds and that

1097
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: the play was going to be incomplete, and he looks

1098
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: down at his feet to see where he was. This

1099
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: is all as he's catching a pass with a defender

1100
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: in his hip pocket and as his right foot is

1101
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 4: about to go out of bounds at the back of

1102
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: the end zone. He then changes where his feet are

1103
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: aligned and actually gets his left foot and taps it inbounds.

1104
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: No one really knew. I mean, if you're watching the game.

1105
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 4: Gus Johnson went into another universe with his call where

1106
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: he lost his voice, but no one inside Beaver Stadium

1107
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 4: knew if it was a touchdown or not because it

1108
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: looked like he was well out of bounds. The replay

1109
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: in slow motion showed that he got that foot inbounds.

1110
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: He definitely has high caliber awareness near the sideline in

1111
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: the end zone. And as a player that on that

1112
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: Indiana team that had so many transfers and Kurt Signetti

1113
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 4: brought a lot of the James Madison guys there, there

1114
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: were some twenty twenty five year olds. He was a

1115
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 4: three year player at Indiana homegrown at that school, so

1116
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: was not entering after moving around a bunch or entering

1117
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: the league at twenty four to twenty five years old.

1118
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody like Omar Cooper Junior, who did a decent

1119
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: amount of work from the slot, did what does that

1120
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: look like if you copy paste to Buffalo's ross.

1121
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, I do

1122
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: think that Joe Brady and company and the scouting staff

1123
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 4: in Buffalo will be looking more toward players that have

1124
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: a lot of experience on the perimeter. And I said

1125
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 4: earlier that, yeah, you don't want someone that's ninety percent

1126
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: of the time playing in the slot. Last season at

1127
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 4: Indiana eighty three point three percent of the times Cooper

1128
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: was in the slot. Now, the previous season ninety percent

1129
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: of the time he was out wide. So to me,

1130
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: I think there was maybe just a coaching or a

1131
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: schematic change of Hey, we're gonna try to get you

1132
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 4: in space a little easier. In the slot. He showed

1133
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four twenty eight catches for five hundred

1134
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: and ninety four yards, only one yards per catch, with

1135
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: seven scores that he can win on the boundary. I

1136
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 4: do not think that Cooper is going to test through

1137
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 4: the roof. I don't think he's gonna run in the

1138
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 4: four to threies with a forty two inch vertical and

1139
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 4: again be this elite separator. But if you again are

1140
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: trying to visualize what type of player is he, who

1141
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: is he like so similar to DJ Moore who was

1142
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 4: just this rugged yards after the catch type at Maryland.

1143
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: That's who I see with Omark Cooper Junior.

1144
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a different type of wide receiver

1145
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: in terms of body type. That was mocked to Buffalo

1146
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: in the latest mock draft watch, and we've seen also

1147
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: multiple times already. Is Denzel Boston from Washington six four

1148
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: two hundred ten pounds, eleven touchdowns last season, twenty touchdowns

1149
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 2: in the last two years, had close to one thousand

1150
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: yards in twenty twenty five. Now, when you watch Boston

1151
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: what he does on tape, this is an apt athletic

1152
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver. It's got length, is an easy mismatch because

1153
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: of his size and absolute red zone target. He's got

1154
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: good vision and is really good at the catch point,

1155
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: tough at the catch point. It has some toughness too

1156
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage. Is not going to beat everybody,

1157
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: but is a solid target at wide receiver who has

1158
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: tough hands and a big catch radius.

1159
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 4: So I think the biggest question that anyone needs to

1160
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: answer when they're giving their their picks for whether the

1161
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: Bills are trading for a receiver drafting a receiver. Do

1162
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: you think the Bills need a big, physical X receiver

1163
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: or do they need someone who can get open and separate.

1164
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 4: I lean towards the separation ability, and I'm okay with

1165
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: risking some of the size and some of the physicality,

1166
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: But I do think we need to talk about Denzel

1167
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 4: Boston because they're The other school of thought is they

1168
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: need size, they need the physicality they need to be

1169
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: able to win in those contested catch situations, where a

1170
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: lot of the Bills receivers have not won late in

1171
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: the season in the playoffs. With Denzel Boston five drops

1172
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 4: on two hundred and four targets in college and last

1173
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: season his contested catch win rate was almost seventy seven percent.

1174
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: Ten of thirteen times that he was in traffic, he

1175
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 4: came down with the football. So he plays at six

1176
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 4: four two twenty. He plays to that size a lot

1177
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: of times. The bigger receivers we automatically think are just

1178
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 4: these amazing Mike Evans or Larry Fitzgerald level rebounders, and

1179
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: they're really not. Denzel Boston absolutely is now. He is

1180
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 4: not going to get open with suddenness and subtlety as

1181
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: a route runner. There is some build up speed to

1182
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: his game, so that's what you would ultimately sacrifice if

1183
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: you get him. But we're talking about inside outside. The

1184
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: last or all four seasons at Washington was either at

1185
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 4: eighty percent or higher on the outside. So this is

1186
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: not someone that needs to train transition to that role

1187
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 4: and has never been near the sideline. There's a lot

1188
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 4: of catches on film over his head getting two feet down,

1189
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 4: whether it's for a score or just a splash play

1190
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 4: down the field. He absolutely is your classic X receiver

1191
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 4: that's going to run post routes, dig routes, comebacks, and

1192
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 4: kind of box out smaller cornerbacks frequently, so different style

1193
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 4: from Omar Cooper and not your vertical speed separator, but

1194
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 4: actually can be useful down the field because of how

1195
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 4: he wins kind of above the rim as a rebounder.

1196
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: Exactly six four, two ten is what Denzel Boston's sizes

1197
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: and you see that quickly when you watch him play.

1198
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: A very tough receiver who's not going to separate due

1199
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: to speed, but he is going to separate in ways

1200
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: because of his physicality. Would you rather have a separator

1201
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: or a contested catch receiver?

1202
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in the separation camp, okay, But I understand

1203
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: that you can have specific wants in the draft, and

1204
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 4: you can c receivers that you like go earlier than

1205
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 4: you ultimately pick, or you try to trade up and

1206
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: you don't have any suitors. So I don't want to

1207
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 4: say have to settle for what you don't like, but

1208
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 4: you're okay with a Plan B and a Plan CE,

1209
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 4: and sometimes those ultimately work out, and at the same time,

1210
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 4: I understand that the Bills could use some size in

1211
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 4: that wide receiver room and that Joe Brady again I

1212
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 4: talked about that he's had well rounded wide receivers justin

1213
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 4: Jefferson's pretty big. Jamar Chase is that big, stocky receiver.

1214
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: DJ Moore is over six foot, over two hundred pounds.

1215
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: You're not going to get a ton post catch with

1216
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 4: Denzel Boston, but a lot of throwing the football on

1217
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 4: the back shoulder, throwing it to him when he's not

1218
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 4: open that you might not get with a Ksey Concepcion

1219
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: or like we talked about with Omar Cooper junior. You

1220
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 4: absolutely would get that with Denzel Boston if he's the

1221
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: Bills pick.

1222
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: And then you weigh someone like Denzel Boston with Keon Coleman.

1223
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman is also your contested catch guy who is

1224
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: tough at the catch point. Yes, Coleman didn't have the

1225
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: season that people were expecting last year, had a really

1226
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: great training camp. But you kind of when you see

1227
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: a receiver like that, you sometimes wonder or way.

1228
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: Is it good to have two of these.

1229
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: On this roster or do they do they believe yes,

1230
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman had a down year. Yes, last year, but

1231
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: this year we really believe that he's gonna shine on

1232
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: this offense.

1233
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think in general getting as many

1234
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 4: different styles at wide receiver makes sense. But let's say

1235
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 4: in the fourth or fifth round the Bills, whether they

1236
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 4: picked a receiver earlier or not, that's fine. But let's

1237
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: say fourth or fifth round they see a wide receiver

1238
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: that's similar to Khalil Shakir slot receiver, great after the catch?

1239
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: Why not?

1240
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: Why not going so just because you have someone in

1241
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 4: Keon Coleman, even regardless of we don't necessarily know exactly

1242
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 4: how they feel about his future in Buffalo. But regardless

1243
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: of that, even though he like that is his specialty

1244
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: to be that back shoulder rebounder type, doesn't mean that

1245
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: the Bills can say, hey, you know what, we already

1246
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: have one. We don't need another one. I think at

1247
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 4: this point and at the the level of the need

1248
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 4: that the Bills have at wide receiver, just get as

1249
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 4: many quality wide receivers as possible, and maybe late you

1250
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 4: can draft a vertical specialist or someone that is not

1251
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 4: going to get open but is a big body. But

1252
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: early in the draft. I think you're looking for as

1253
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: much of a well rounded skill set as opposed to

1254
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 4: a one trick pony.

1255
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: Let's dip into defense, because why not. The Bills have

1256
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: been mocked. This safety Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo

1257
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: six to two hundred and two pounds, Oh my gosh,

1258
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: puts his body on the line for the football. This

1259
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: guy is a freak with the way he plays the game.

1260
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: Plays way more physical than two hundred two pounds. And

1261
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: you could see that because he's forced nine career fumbles.

1262
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: What safety has worse?

1263
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: Nine career fumbles?

1264
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: He throws his body at the ball and it causes chaos,

1265
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: has some good IQ when it comes to feeling out

1266
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: the game, can stop the run or run with a

1267
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

1268
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: What do you love about McNeil Warren?

1269
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: A lot? And he's part of why yesterday I mentioned

1270
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: that I've watched I think eight safeties and they're like

1271
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 4: all graded higher than any of the safeties last year.

1272
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: Why I called it the best safety class that I've

1273
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: ever evaluated in ten plus years of doing this. Everything

1274
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: that you want out of a modern day safety, he

1275
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 4: brings that and like he's someone that I said Omar

1276
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: Cooper and Denzel Boston are probably not going to test

1277
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 4: particularly well. McNeil Warren, I think could be that runs

1278
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 4: sub four or five and has a forty inch vertigo.

1279
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 4: He looks like a sudden explosive mover on the field,

1280
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: which lends itself to immaculate range in coverage. You here

1281
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 4: six two, two oh five and think, oh he's a

1282
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 4: box safety. He's a linebacker. No, no, no. A lot

1283
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: of plays in coverage at the intermediate level and down

1284
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 4: the field. But I do think he will be selling

1285
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: himself to teams as this rugged downhill run defender, blitzer

1286
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: slot blitzer because he really did everything at Toledo. He

1287
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 4: actually reminded me a lot of Nicko man Worry last year,

1288
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: who I loved for the Bills. He went in the

1289
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 4: second round to the Seahawks, had a great rookie season. Now,

1290
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: the difference is McNeil Warren was doing it in the

1291
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 4: MAC nick man Worry was doing it in the SEC

1292
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 4: at South Carolina. But a similar body type, similar explosiveness,

1293
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 4: and if you remember, Nick man Wory tested absolutely bonkers

1294
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 4: last year in Indianapolis. And I'm still surprised he was

1295
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 4: a second rounder because of that, But McNeil Warren is

1296
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: a name to keep in mind and pay attention to

1297
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 4: his workout because that will ultimately help you, being that

1298
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: he's from Toledo, if he tests very well. You mentioned

1299
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 4: it to me off Air Quinion Mitchell, from the same

1300
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 4: school just a few years ago, had similar like insane

1301
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: film at the cornerback spot and then he ran four

1302
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: three three and had a thirty eight inch vertical, So

1303
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: a lot of the scouts were like, all right, the

1304
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 4: film was good at the smaller school level and the

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01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: athleticism was there. If McNeil Warren tests very well, and

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Speaker 4: I think he could, he absolutely will be there in

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01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 4: the first round, and he might not even make it

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01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 4: to the bills at twenty six with a good combine, because,

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01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 4: like you outlined, his film is really that good and

1310
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 4: the traits leap off the film at Toledo. For McNeil Warren,

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: he is a.

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Speaker 2: Type of player where no matter what team you're coach for,

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: you watch somebody like that and you just see high effort,

1314
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: loves the game of football, is going to give it

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: everything he has. And who doesn't want that type of

1316
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 2: mentality on your team. Somebody who can create competition in

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 2: a safety right away because of his high effort, high

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 2: intensity style that he plays with Toledo.

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 3: Also, some of the highlights that we saw.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was this past year, but

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: while he was at Toledo they played Kentucky and he

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01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: had a lot of highlights from that Kentucky game where yes,

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: you're not playing in the SEC, but you do get

1324
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: some good teams from time to time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and watching his film with McNeil Warren, there was

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 4: not a time where it looked like when they played

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01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 4: those early season games against better opponents from better conferences,

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 4: where it looked like he was out of place. He

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 4: looked like he absolutely could have probably transferred to one

1330
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: of those schools with the transfer portal and the nil

1331
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 4: era that we're in and absolutely looked the part and

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 4: not been deer in headlights whatsoever. Last three years, eleven

1333
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 4: tackles for loss, five interceptions to go along with those

1334
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 4: nine fumbles. It's absolutely insane the production that he had,

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: and again he looks the part in terms of the

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: physicality and the size that any type of defense running

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 4: any scheme man's own four three three four would absolutely

1338
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 4: love to have on their team.

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Speaker 2: We want to talk about one more player. Defensive tackled

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: Lee Hunter out of Texas Tech six three hundred and

1341
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: twenty pounds, had seven and a half sacks.

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: In fifty two games.

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 2: When you watch Hunter's tape, he is a space eater,

1344
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 2: has really long arms and takes up a lot of space,

1345
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: clogs up holes, He can rip and shed blocks really well,

1346
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: has good leverage when he plays the game, stays low,

1347
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: and is very powerful in moving people. I also think

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: at three twenty he moves really well for his size

1349
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: in a short area. He can kind of get up

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01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: the field quickly or make moves quickly. So I thought

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01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: that was something that stood out to me at six

1352
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: three three twenty.

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm typically not a big advocate of drafting

1354
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 4: defensive tackles in the first round, especially when they're over

1355
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: three hundred twenty three hundred and thirty pounds. Lee Hunter

1356
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 4: is a different type of animal. He is your classic

1357
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 4: nose tackle size, and he plays a lot right head

1358
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 4: up with the center or next to the guard, and

1359
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 4: is a tremendous run defender, but gives you some pass

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01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: rush juice. He had thirty two tackles for loss and

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 4: seven and a half sacks in his four years in college,

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Speaker 4: three at UCF and then transferre to Texas Tech. Another

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01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: one went through the transfer portal and didn't look out

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 4: of sorts or that the stage was too big for

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 4: him going up in competition playing in the Big twelve

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01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 4: last season. So he's someone that I think we talked

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01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 4: about the well roundedness at wide receiver. He is a

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: very well rounded defensive tackle because at his size, with

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01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: his mass, very difficult to move, he sheds blocks very

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Speaker 4: well against the run, and you're expecting that at that size,

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01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 4: but can give you that penetration ability to be a

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 4: quality pass rusher in time. So I really like Lee

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01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: Hunter a lot on film. To me, if he's picked

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 4: at the end of the first round, I think it

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 4: will absolutely be justified because I think he's going to

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 4: test well at his size enough to say I can

1377
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 4: have eventually be a thirty forty fifty pressure five to

1378
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 4: seven sack type defensive tackle, because I think you need

1379
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 4: in the modern day NFL the pass rushing upside to

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 4: go in the first round at over three hundred and three.

1381
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: Secondly, in today's NFL. That's a great point.

1382
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: Played at Texas Tech, UCF and Auburn was an All

1383
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: Big Twelve first team member in twenty twenty five. Also

1384
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 2: earned AP All America Honors second Team in twenty twenty five.

1385
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: Not a name that we are going to break down,

1386
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: but you might have watched film on this. One of

1387
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: my favorite parts of kind of going through some of

1388
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: these prospects is one thing we do to prepare for

1389
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: the NFL scouting Combine is go through every single prospect

1390
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: and try and find connections to our current rostered players,

1391
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: whether that be college connections or hometown connections. And one

1392
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: of the defensive tackles that had a pretty cool connection

1393
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: with Jordan Hancock is out of Ohio State, Caden McDonald.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: I'd say, is his name overlapped to Jordan Hancock at

1395
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: Ohio State. And then the two are from the same

1396
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: hometown son, Georgia, So it's not like they're both Ohio

1397
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: boys playing at Ohio State. No, they're from a town

1398
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 2: in Georgia, so they're from the same town and overlapped

1399
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 2: at Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really excited for some of those.

1401
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: Opportunities to talk to a player like Cad McDonald and

1402
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, were you guys best friends coming from

1403
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 2: the same town overlapping for a couple of years at

1404
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and.

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 4: I feel bad for all of the opponents that they

1406
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 4: must have faced in school together, two Ohio State guys

1407
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 4: and future nflers on those rosters there in Georgia. With

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 4: Cad McDonald, I'll be quick with him. Everything that I've

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 4: just referenced about Lee Hunter in terms of size and

1410
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 4: run stopping ability, Caden McDonald gives you that, but I

1411
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: think he's actually a better run defender in terms of stacking,

1412
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 4: shedding blocks, eating and anchoring against those double teams to

1413
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 4: keep linebackers free, which I do think Jim Leonard will

1414
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: place a higher priority and emphasis on that than the

1415
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: previous coaching staff did. That's really important to his game

1416
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 4: that he can be that two gapping nose tackle. The

1417
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: one concern I have with Caiden McDonald, the pass rushing

1418
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 4: upside isn't quite there. He never had more than twenty

1419
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: pressures in a single season, when Lee Hunter did it

1420
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 4: three times at UCF and at Texas Texas past season.

1421
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 4: So he's someone that I personally, I don't want to say,

1422
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 4: wouldn't ever pick in the first round, but I want

1423
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: more pass rushing upside, but I do think Cayden McDonald

1424
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 4: has a case as the best run stopping defensive lineman

1425
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: in this class. And we do know that the run

1426
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 4: defense was a problem for the Bills for most of

1427
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five seasons.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 2: Definitely an area they're looking into this offseason as several

1429
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 2: defensive linemen are set to become free agents in just

1430
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 2: a few weeks on Buffalo's roster. We're going to take

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 2: a break when we return answering your questions from the

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: mail bag because it's Friday Fan Mailbag next on One

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Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bills Live. It's time for our

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Speaker 2: Friday fan mail bag and it's brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Is we answer your questions today. Robert wants

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01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 2: to know is there anyone from a small school that

1439
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: people aren't talking about but should Yeah, you're the expert here.

1440
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 4: The name that popped instantly into my fad ted Hurst,

1441
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 4: the wide receiver from Georgia State. Okay, okay, this might

1442
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 4: sound crazy, and we'll see how he works out and

1443
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 4: I get a small school level. It's not the same

1444
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 4: on film I saw des Bryant. I saw a similar

1445
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 4: It's a name, big name, big body wide receiver, and

1446
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 4: obviously does Brian played at Oklahoma State, so it was

1447
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 4: dealing with better competition. But if you're looking at small

1448
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: school guys six to two, around two ten, very similarly sized,

1449
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure will be at the combine to what

1450
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 4: des Bryant was and absolutely is that rebounder that is

1451
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: ferociously attacking the football at the catchpoint but actually runs

1452
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 4: pretty good routes. He could be someone that we're not

1453
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 4: hearing a lot about now but looks like on film,

1454
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 4: could test pretty well and then we're like, oh, second

1455
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: or third round could be that double dip in the

1456
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 4: draft possibility for the Bills at wide receiver.

1457
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 2: What's one position group that you believe the has the

1458
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: biggest amount of depth this year in the NFL Draft?

1459
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: Is there one that.

1460
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: You feel like you can get decent players on Day three?

1461
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 3: Even?

1462
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: I would say so. I haven't watched like fifteen or

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01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 4: twenty eighty at each spot. Edge and safety are super

1464
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 4: duper good wide receiver, not that far behind those other

1465
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 4: two positions, good depth, very good depth.

1466
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: Nice Okay, Lauren wants to know, does Josh need a

1467
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback as a backup at this point? If the

1468
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: value is there, why not consider drafting a backup quarterback.

1469
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 2: Bills will have his rights for four years, very cost controlled.

1470
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: Even if it costs a third round pick. With the

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Speaker 2: money saved, it's worth a draft value. This is an

1472
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: interesting point. I mean, I could see them going a

1473
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback, but Strubisky has a great relationship with Josh

1474
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: Allen and the quarterback room is.

1475
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: Very important to Alan.

1476
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: I believe he will have some sort of say in

1477
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: who is in that quarterback room in twenty twenty six.

1478
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: But I also think it would make sense to add

1479
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 2: some youth to that position group, because why not, whether

1480
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: it's a backup or somebody that's a third quarterback on

1481
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: your team, a second backup on your team, Because yes,

1482
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: that rookie would be cheap for their four years and

1483
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: it would be cost controlled, but you also have an

1484
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: option to trade if you need to, and sometimes teams

1485
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: get a little bit desperate for a backup quarterback later

1486
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: on in the season, and it's an option to have

1487
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: on your roster at somebody that you could eventually trade

1488
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 2: away if needed.

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean I think that makes sense. I

1490
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 4: think at this point, having the stability and the camaraderie

1491
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 4: in the quarterback room is probably more important for Josh

1492
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 4: Allen than like when Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley were

1493
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: those veterans that didn't have the talent of Josh Allen

1494
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: in terms of athleticism and arm strength obviously, but could

1495
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,440
Speaker 4: and were I think low key integral to the development

1496
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 4: that Josh Allen had learning how to read defenses and

1497
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 4: throw with anticipation. I don't know if he necessarily needs

1498
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 4: that at this point, but I will go back to

1499
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 4: what Brandon Bean always references every offseason that they're constantly

1500
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 4: trying to improve every position, and you might be able

1501
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 4: to sign a veteran that you could ultimately swing a

1502
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 4: trade and end up getting a third, fourth or fifth

1503
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 4: round pick for. So it's not something that I think

1504
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 4: the Bills will completely ignore. But I do think that

1505
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 4: bringing back Mitchell Trubisky, who isn't impending unrestricted free agent,

1506
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 4: probably makes the most sense for that room.

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: The Bill's drafted.

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01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 2: If you can remember back in twenty twenty they drafted

1509
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: Jake from in the fifth round. That was one of

1510
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: the younger backups that they had on their team.

1511
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the culture in the.

1512
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Quarterback room is more important than just deciding to have

1513
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: youth in the quarterback room instead. At this point in

1514
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's career, Jacob says, how many total players do

1515
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: you anticipate the Bills trading away to either get rid

1516
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: of their salary because of a bad scheme fit. Can

1517
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 2: you predict a surprise player to be traded that makes

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Speaker 2: sense to offload? My prediction is Kincaide Shakir, then Coleman's

1519
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 2: a slot. I don't know if there's anybody in mind

1520
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: that's like, oh, yeah, this person is not going to

1521
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: be on the roster next year because we don't have

1522
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: a complete surefire look at what the offense and the

1523
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: defense is going to be in twenty twenty six. Yes,

1524
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: we've heard from Jim Leonard and Pete Carmichael, but just

1525
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: because we heard them talk for twenty minutes doesn't mean

1526
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 2: that we're experts on the scheme that Buffalo's going to

1527
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 2: use next season and the pieces that do not fit

1528
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: at all. How many total players do you anticipate the

1529
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: Bills trading away. I'm interested to see if they decide

1530
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: to trade somebody away. Yes, there are some salaries where

1531
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: it could make sense to trade away, but I'm time will.

1532
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 3: Tell for me. Are you do you feel a certain

1533
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: way about.

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 4: We've talked so much about who the Bills could trade

1535
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 4: to obtain, so it feels like that if you were

1536
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 4: handicapping it that they're much more likely to be trading

1537
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 4: early picks to get an Aj Brown or Buddha Baker

1538
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 4: at safety or whatever. It seems like that that is

1539
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 4: more likely. I do think, though, to try to be

1540
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 4: as objective as possible. The two names, one to scheme fit,

1541
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 4: one financially at Oliver, I don't think is a bad

1542
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 4: scheme fit. You can't have too many disruptive players along

1543
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 4: the defensive line. He's someone that, though doesn't actually have

1544
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: the measurables that I think most base three four defensive

1545
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 4: coordinators would want, with the arms under thirty two inches

1546
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 4: and being under three hundred pounds, but when healthy, he's

1547
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 4: been the Bill's most disruptive interior player. And again, the

1548
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 4: Bills do need disruption up front. It's just because this

1549
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 4: is going to a three to four base does not

1550
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 4: mean that the Bills just want their defensive lineman to

1551
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: just eat blockers and never get upfield and have any

1552
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 4: tackles for loss. He would be one that if I

1553
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,839
Speaker 4: had to give an answer. And then on the financial side,

1554
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: Dawson Knox being a seventeen million dollars cap hit, whether

1555
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 4: it's I don't think they would trade him. And that

1556
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 4: goes back to what you referenced about quarterbacks, the camaraderie,

1557
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 4: like he's Josh Allen's best friend. He was in Josh

1558
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 4: Allen's wedding. I think something might need to be done

1559
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 4: with a restructure or a pay cut, but he is

1560
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 4: someone that I think maybe the Bills would have to

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 4: consider if they do get some calls for Dawson Knox,

1562
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 4: just because of where his contract sits currently. I will

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01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 4: say with Knox, I will be surprised if if he's

1564
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 4: playing in Buffalo next season with a seventeen million dollar capet.

1565
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 4: I think there will be some type of transaction to

1566
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 4: reduce that capet for Dawson Knox this season.

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: Jim wants to know, is it odd that Bean has

1568
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: drafted so many running backs and so few wide receivers

1569
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 2: over his tenure and actually looking back.

1570
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 4: So the numbers are pretty close, aren't they.

1571
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: It's a wide receiver heavy compared to running backs. Let's

1572
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking at twenty nineteen. I'll start Devin Single. Terry

1573
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: was drafted in twenty nineteen Moss and then you have

1574
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, going up from there, Isaiah Hodgens, Gabe Davis,

1575
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: and Gabe Davis. So there's two for the wide receiver group.

1576
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one you have mark Us Stevenson, Markuz Stevenson.

1577
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two you have Khalil Shakir and James Cook.

1578
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three you have Justin Shorter. Twenty twenty four,

1579
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman and Ray Davis. Twenty twenty five you have

1580
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: Cayden Prather, So a few more wide receivers than running backs.

1581
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: You know, they've gone after wide receiver in every single draft.

1582
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen you had Ray Ray McCloud and Austin prol

1583
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen you had Zay Jones.

1584
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: So it's been about even I think what that tweet

1585
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: is trying to get at is there haven't been as

1586
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: many early round wide receivers. There's been Keon Coleman, you know,

1587
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 4: with the first pick in the second round, but not

1588
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 4: a lot else in terms of those early round selections

1589
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 4: at that spot, and I think in general, to me,

1590
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 4: Brandon be has done a great job not overvaluing running

1591
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: back and picking. I mean, he traded down twice before

1592
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 4: he picked James Cook in twenty twenty two. But other

1593
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 4: than that, you know, Devin Singletary was a third round pick,

1594
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 4: Zach Moss was a third round pick. Ray Davis was

1595
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 4: a fourth rounder. To me as a draft analyst, that

1596
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 4: really factors in positional value to my evaluations. That to

1597
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 4: me is the sweet spot to pick your eventual can

1598
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 4: be your feature back that James like I would start

1599
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 4: end of round two into round four and round five.

1600
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 4: You can get absolutely serviceable to high level running backs

1601
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 4: at that point, and it does make sense to kind

1602
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: of keep that position loaded every couple of years by

1603
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 4: drafting a Ray Davis or drafting a Devin Singletary and

1604
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 4: then drafting a James Cook. So maybe there was a

1605
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 4: little stretch there from twenty nineteen to twenty two where

1606
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 4: Bean did select three running backs that some fans might

1607
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 4: think that was overkilled, but it ultimately worked out very

1608
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 4: well that the Bills have had a low priced and

1609
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: almost in every season capable running back in the backfield.

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: We got to take a break, but when we return,

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Speaker 2: closing things up here on one Bills Live. As we

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Speaker 2: finish off the tweet sheet, we're presented by Clydehealth on

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01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 3: We're back here on one Bills Live.

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01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: And as we went to break last segment, some breaking

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01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: news came across our timelines.

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01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: Related to the Bills.

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01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: According to Ian Rappaport, the Bills have re signed a

1619
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: key reserve offensive lineman in Alec Anderson. Played in every

1620
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: game last year, started six games over the last two seasons.

1621
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: He gets a one year, three million dollars deal with

1622
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: one point eight million guaranteed. According to his agent and

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Ian Rapaport.

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01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Love this.

1625
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: I love that this is the first chip to fall.

1626
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: Love that he's back.

1627
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 3: In the building.

1628
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: I think an important part of the offensive line and

1629
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: the offense in general because of the attitude and mentality

1630
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 2: he plays with.

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 3: He's a go getter.

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01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: We all know and love Alec Anderson for his intensity

1633
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: and if there's a scuffle on the field, usually Anderson

1634
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: is in the middle of it.

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01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and how about his versatility. This is a college

1636
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 4: right tackle at UCLA who transitioned to guard, and you

1637
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 4: were talking to me off air that he learned how

1638
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 4: to snap the football once he was on the Bills,

1639
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 4: so he can play center. I don't know if this

1640
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 4: necessarily says anything about the future or the contracts of

1641
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 4: Connor McGovern and David Edwards, but to get him signed

1642
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 4: before any of that happens is very good insurance because

1643
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 4: he has played some snaps at guard and center. Very

1644
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 4: important for him to not have to be that restricted

1645
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: free agent where another team could have signed him to

1646
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 4: an offer sheet and the Bills would have had to

1647
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 4: up the offer to ultimately keep him in Buffalo one year,

1648
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 4: three million dollars one point eight million guaranteed. This is

1649
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 4: a really smart signing for the Bills offensive line.

1650
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: Quick before we break Connor McGovern and David Edwards. Are

1651
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: you banging the table for one of those to stay?

1652
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they do need to

1653
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 4: sign one of the two. But they're both quality players

1654
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: that are important. They're smart, they're good run defense, or

1655
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: they're good run blockers and great in pass protection. I

1656
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 4: get that they won't be able to sign both of them,

1657
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 4: but I think they're right at about the same level

1658
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 4: that they're upper level, not elite at their positions, but

1659
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 4: very good players up front.

1660
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Aleck Anderson back with the Bills on a one year deal,

1661
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 2: according to Ian Rappaport, Thanks for tuning into One Bills

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01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: Live all week. We are back on Monday. Chris Brown

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01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: and Steve Tasper back in these themes.

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Speaker 3: See them