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Speaker 1: Nice Show. It's Thursday. I'm Rob Shooter. I forgot to

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Speaker 1: introduce myself. Hey, we've been doing this for so long

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Speaker 1: we don't, I am Rob Shooter. Although actually today I

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Speaker 1: really should introduce myself because I was on Elvis d

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Speaker 1: Ran yesterday and Elvis plugged the podcast. He's so kind

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Speaker 1: to me. He's like my fairy godmother. He would not

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Speaker 1: mind me calling him that, and so he plugged the

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Speaker 1: podcast and we had hundreds of thousands of of new listeners.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you. Welcome to the Naughty but

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Speaker 1: Night Show. I'm Rob Shooter, and you really picked the

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Speaker 1: right day to tune in because our dear friend Mark

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Speaker 1: Lupo joins us every Thursday. Hey, Lupi are you there?

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Speaker 1: That's right, every Thursday, Lupi lewis Loupy lou Elvis was

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Speaker 1: nothing but lovely yesterday. You know him well, Mark too,

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Speaker 1: don't you. He's a good guy. Elvis is the absolute best,

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Speaker 1: and genuinely he's a sweetheart. He really is. That's the

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Speaker 1: right word. He's a sweetheart. I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: knows how powerful he is. Maybe he does. I've been

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Speaker 1: at a bar, then you know. Then you know who's powerful.

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Speaker 1: But I love you, I love you. Welcome to the show, everybody,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in. We have twenty minutes of celebrity gossip.

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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friends? It is sing along?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We like audience participation on the show. It's

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Speaker 1: it's like a game show. So we were going to

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Speaker 1: start the show with this story about Kirstie Allen. But

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Speaker 1: at three am, Megan and Harry's documentary series it's really

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Speaker 1: a reality show. It dropped marks. So I got up

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Speaker 1: at two thirties. My alar I got up at two

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Speaker 1: British accents, and I watched the whole thing and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take you through the first three episodes. Not many

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Speaker 1: spoiler alerts here, so don't worry. You can still watch it.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to just get ahead of everybody

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Speaker 1: for that. First of all, market started with a blank screen,

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Speaker 1: It was very much about the romance, about dating, about

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Speaker 1: But it started really, really sweet. It started with this

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Speaker 1: and Megan and Harry first met on Instagram. Isn't that Instagram? Yeah,

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