1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, the latest on Kyler 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Murray and whether this game may be played by a 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: pair of backup quarterbacks. Yes, the Panthers are struggling. No, 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: it's not because of their defense. That side of the 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: ball is playing very, very well. But first standing up 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: for James Connor. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four ninety three, 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins one hand and catch in a touchdown 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Got a 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: complaints that I don't know who to direct to, so 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna share it here before we talk about 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: what was a very difference in season Wednesday. Two stat 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: lines for you, MJ, and you tell me which one 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: was more impressive? Ready, yep? All right? Three hundred twenty 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: three passing yards with two touchdowns plus a rushing touchdown 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: versus one hundred seventy three scrimmage yards with two rushing 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns and one receiving touchdown, and both teams won. I 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: don't think you included the completion percentage or the quarterback rating. Now, 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: the first set of numbers, that's Matt Ryan's stat line. 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Falcons won at New Orleans. The second set of numbers 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: James Conner Cardinals one at San Francisco without five offensive starters. 25 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Jase Edmonds lost on the first offensive play. Justin Pugh 26 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: lost on the second series in that game. The reason 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: I bring this up is because I did not get 28 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the customary email from the National Football League about who 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. 30 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: They chose Matt Ryan, the tenth time in his career 31 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: in which he's been selected. Connor has only been honored twice, 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: once in twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen, there was a 33 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: part of me that anticipated because there was no four 34 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, no four touchdowns or anything like that. 35 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: So I thought, no, we didn't have a hundred receiving 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: yards or one hundred rushing yards, but three total touchdowns. 37 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: He's got ten rushing touchdowns on the season. Leads the 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: league with eleven total touchdowns. Why wasn't James Connor the 39 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: selection again? He completed seventy seven percent of his passes 40 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: and it had a quarterback rating a one hundred and 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: thirty six. That wasn't even the best completion percentage. That 42 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: belonged to Colt McCoy on Saturday, or excuse me, on Sunday, 43 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Colon McCoy had a better completion throw the attempt to 44 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: ball thirty times. Let's let me paint this picture. So 45 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: did you go for a walk this morning? Always okay, 46 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: So normally Sandy to go for another one and know 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: after the show. Yeah no, So let me pain this pace. 48 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: So you went for the walk, and normally if it 49 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: comes from the Cardinals, it's like five thirty two in 50 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: the morning. Well yeah, but now that the time has changed, 51 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: it's so were you looking just waiting? I was waiting. 52 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I didn't receive it, and I understand the Cardinals, and 53 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I went back and I totaled it up. I looked. 54 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals have one Player of the Week awards four times, 55 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Kyler Murray, Byron Murphy and Matt Prador. Four 56 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: are the most of any team. In the NFC. But 57 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: to me, and I know the league likes to spread 58 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: the wealth around. YEA, Kyler Murray should have been honored 59 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: in Week one, but they gave it to Matthew Stafford 60 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: because it was his first game with the Rams. But 61 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you're punishing players who do well. Why are you punishing 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: James Conner because of the Cardinal's success. You should be 63 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: honoring and highlighting that, not punishing it. I gotta think, though, 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: you know each each media relations department after each game, 65 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: you know they probably you know, sample what's going on 66 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: across the NFL and you can recommend somebody, but I don't. 67 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the case. Obviously Atlanta 68 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: is off to a rough start and quality win against 69 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: a really good defense, So Cardinals are off to an 70 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: outstand he start. What they much better quality. We got 71 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry than players of the week. He 72 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: can walk out right now and he's what is he 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: the leading touchdown gutter in the NFL? Yeah, okay, listen, 74 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: he's got status right now. He's not worried about I 75 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: don't even know if you get a plaque or maybe 76 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: and if it's a donation to a charity then sure, 77 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: but I think you get a pat on the back. 78 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you get anything anymore. I just wanted 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: to see because he doesn't get talked a lot about it. 80 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: He's been getting talked a lot more this week. But 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was special for him and maybe he 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get it from the league office, but he's gonna 83 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: get it here on Cardinals cover two. Okay, I'll defree 84 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: did on that. Um. Yeah, like I said, well, you 85 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: know how much he's mean to his team, and I 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: gave you a stet earlier. Seven of us eight touchdowns 87 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: have come within the five yard line, So no longer 88 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: who's gonna get the short yardage and everything else? So 89 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: I think he you know, it's not it's it's possible. 90 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean between now in the regular season. But I'll 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: tell you where. He's getting a lot of chat fantasy, 92 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: all these fantasy shows in their podcast. Everyone's saying why 93 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: didn't we take James Connor earlier? You know, and going 94 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: end of season one and one A we figured he 95 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: would be the short yardage just based on his size 96 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: six two two thirty three and we know Chase Evans 97 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: very good from twenty of the twenties to twenty. But 98 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: he is all over social media because people are thinking, man, 99 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I should have taken that guy. Score two rushing touchdowns 100 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: and a receiving touchdown in a forty five yard receiving touchdown. 101 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Those those points out up. I know we're gonna get 102 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: into which transpired based on some interviews we had. Did 103 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: you get the impression that Kingsbury think he can be 104 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: the bell cow? I did, and I understood the question. 105 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I believe it was Darren Urban at cards chatter asking 106 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: about because it's always been two backs, Chase Edmonds James Connor. 107 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: Yet we did see on Sunday that Connor can carry 108 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: the load, and Kingsbury brought that up. He did it 109 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: for most of his time with the Steelers, so it's 110 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: not like James Connor can't do it. The question becomes 111 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: do you want him to do it so he stays fresh. 112 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: He's never played an entire season. Injuries have derailed him 113 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: for a game or two, but he's never played a 114 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: full season. I do think if Chase Edmonds is not 115 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: available this weekend, it certainly doesn't sound like he's going 116 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: to be available. James Connor's going get the start. He's 117 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: going to get the bulk of the carries, but you 118 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: don't want to run him into the ground. He's not 119 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a twenty five thirty plus carry kind of a guy. 120 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: I do think you need someone to help him out, 121 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and I do believe that that will be Eno Benjamin. 122 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I did. I think when you have two backs, 123 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: you try to balance it as much as possible. But 124 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: now the strings, Yeah, but now you've lost one of 125 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: those running backs, and what do you do? And I 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know if if it's so much as you just 127 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: plug in Eno Benjamin, it just I think it might 128 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the game and the flow of the game might dictate 129 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: how much we see in number twenty six. Now, he 130 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: did have six catches for seventy seven yards, so it's 131 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: not like he's carrying the rock because he had twenty 132 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: seven touches overall. So when you look at that, it's 133 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: not like he's pounding his head into the pile or 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: to the defensive front seven to where he's getting the 135 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: ball twenty seven times behind the line of scrimmage. So 136 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: there are other ways to get him the ball. And 137 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest thing that we've seen and did 138 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: see the little bit of training camp and we had 139 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Vanderbosch on the red seat reporting. He said he 140 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: has more one hand it catches, probably than anybody on 141 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: the team. And there's times of the balls on his 142 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: left side or right side and he catches with one hand. 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: So he's in a good spot. The main thing is 144 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: this team just has to get through these next three games. 145 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Good a bye week. But I'm sure you know, I'm 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: sure he wants to put some good stuff on film, 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: and I hope that they can retain all these guys. 148 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: I know this thing called the salary cap. But you know, 149 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: he's in a good spot. And like I said, I 150 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: think he can based on his snap count throughout the season, 151 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I think he can carry the load. I'm not saying thirty, 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: but I'm saying between twenty and twenty five touches. Not 153 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: so much twenty five carries. Quoting Kingsbury about James Conner, 154 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: we expect him to play at a high level when 155 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: his number is called. End quote. So we'll see how 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: things transpire a little bit later on throughout the week, 157 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: and of course obviously on Sunday as we continue here 158 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Honday, probably partner of 159 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Appreciate you helping me out and let 160 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: me rant a little bit there. So it's again greatly 161 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: appreciated on your part. M I'm here for you. We 162 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: look at what as I talked about, it a difference Wednesday, 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: if you will. Typically on Wednesday practice we're out there 164 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: watching the first twenty minutes and then able to report back. Well, 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not practice on Wednesday. They held a 166 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: walk through, and I think that was more because of 167 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: what has transpired here. You're now into week ten, the 168 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: injuries are astounding to mount up, and while they were 169 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: able to ease off the gas a little bit. And 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: it's something that Kingsbury has acknowledged on Monday, and again 171 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: he did it on Wednesday, that they made some adjustments 172 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: to the practice schedule based off of how last season finished, 173 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: and they knew that once they got to the middle 174 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: of this year, they were going to be quote smart 175 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays and dial things back. And Christian Kirk on 176 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: Tuesday mentioned that practice this season has become more efficient 177 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: and the veterans are having a voice, and Kingsbury and 178 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: the coaching staff are listening to those veterans and whether 179 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: reps need to be limited or dialed back depending on 180 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: how guys feel. So not to worry, not to be concerned. 181 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: They will practice on Thursday and Friday, that's the schedule, 182 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: but no practice on Wednesday, just to walk through as 183 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: they continue to kind of recover from what happened on 184 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Sunday and even going back to what happened the week 185 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: before against the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, and you know 186 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: normally on Thursdays they have you know, from week one 187 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: they wear pads. You're allowed eleven in the first fourteen weeks. 188 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: I like the fact that they were GPS, so they 189 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: know when to dial things back. And we know this 190 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: team likes to practice at high temple, but you know, 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: you got to listen to the you know, the trainers 192 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: and the players when it comes to hey, back off. 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: So they just got to get through the bye week. 194 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: But the fact is that you know, they recognize that 195 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: last year and we know this year has been completely 196 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: different when it comes to just their drills during practice, 197 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: CPR and everything else. So I think they're in a 198 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: good spot. And again, you got to know when to 199 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: back off your team, and a lot of it's just 200 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: mental reps going out there and going through some mental reps. 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I gotta think today it was more of a you know, 202 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: eighty percent walk through, so to speak, just because now 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: when you get to Wednesday, Greig, you're from a defensive standpoint, 204 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: you're putting your game plan in. We know Cliff obviously 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: has an idea when it comes to Wednesday, Thursday and 206 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Friday based on what they see. So I gotta think 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: today was more cards what they're going to face on 208 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: offense and defense and special teams, and so you know, 209 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: they know their team better than anybody else, and it's 210 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: it's nice to see that players are receptive to it versus, hey, 211 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna grind every day and then we get the Sunday, 212 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: we don't have the same temple or energy. And that's 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: not been the case the entire season. And even though 214 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: it was a walk through, Kyle Murray did not participates. 215 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: He made that known on Wednesday. Everyone wants to know 216 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray, his status, how he's feeling. This much. 217 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: We can tell you he's officially listed day to day. 218 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: That's what Kingsbury said, but true, we are day to day. 219 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: Nothing is promised. Kyler Murray, though quote hoping to play 220 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: this week he added, I think I've made crazy strides. 221 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Talking about his rehab from that ankle injury, he sounded, well, 222 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, trying to think back to a week 223 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: ago at this time, because at that point he sounded 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: like he was going to play and wanted to play 225 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: and ready to play, and he didn't. But he did 226 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: add that he is feeling much better than he was 227 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: when he addressed the media last Wednesday. So based off 228 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: of how he was acting, smiling, joking, laughing, it didn't 229 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: seem like someone that was not going to play, because 230 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: it seemed to bother him that he had to watch 231 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: from the side lines on Sunday. Cher on his teammates. 232 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Happy for his teammates, but he doesn't like to miss games, 233 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me if Kyler Murray is 234 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: on the field this week. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. 235 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: But I definitely think the rest after the Packers game, 236 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: they had four days off. I'm sure he was getting treatment. 237 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: He did leave the stadium at the pack in a 238 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: walking boot, and then here he wasn't on the practice 239 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: field at all. Last week. He obviously made the trip, 240 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: he was on the sidelines, So I mean, the best 241 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: thing is rest and recovery in treatment, and he's getting 242 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: all that, so it'd be interested to see how much 243 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: he's able to do Thursday and Friday. Of course, last 244 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: week we talked about he doesn't need to practice, but 245 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: I think for Kyler he would like to practices. Kind 246 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: of get the chemistry again. They know the routes, they 247 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: know the offense. It's just a matter of getting out there. 248 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say knocking the rust out, but just 249 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: feeling like, Okay, I'm getting close to not one hundred percent, 250 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: but I'm getting close to where I can actually send 251 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: in the pocket and make the throws. You know, he 252 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: called reps crucial, but he also acknowledged that for a 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: short period of time, maybe a week or two, he'd 254 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: be okay with just mental reps and then going on 255 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: the practice field. I know there is a school of thought, 256 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and there's a part of me that believes it. Hey, 257 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: you won without Colt McCoy. Can you do it again 258 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: this week, maybe even against the Seattle Seahawks the falling 259 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: week and go into the bye week and allow Kyle 260 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: the Murray to have an extended period of time to rest, 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: recover and be one hundred percent or as close to 262 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent as possible with respect to that ankle. 263 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, the more time you miss 264 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: are you that, Yes, you're fresher, But to your point, 265 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: does rust set in? Do you lose that momentum if 266 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: you will, the feel of the game, the flow. How 267 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: much time can you have too much rest? And I 268 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: think that's a big debate. But if Kyle the Murray 269 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: is healthy, if he can protect himself, if he can scramble, 270 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: if he can stand in that pocket and elude the rush, 271 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: then I see no reason for him too sit out. 272 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: He should play. And based off of just his mannerisms 273 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: and addressing the media earlier on Wednesday, I'd put it 274 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: at a I don't want to give a percentage, but again, 275 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: a good chance trending. He's trending towards play. Now we'll 276 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: see what happens on Thursday and Friday. But he sounded 277 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: like someone who is anxious to get back on the 278 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: football field. Yeah, and it's not so much you know, 279 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, putting up thirty or thirty five points in 280 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: four hundred yards. He wants to be efficient. And let's 281 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: be honest, Craig, We've always talked about it. If you're 282 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: going to be in that an MVP race. Over the 283 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: last ten years, he's got to average over twelve and 284 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: a half wins and he's in that position. So I 285 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: know they're big. They have bigger aspirations to get to 286 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs and obviously the super Bowl, and we can 287 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: say that word because it's realistic. But at the same time, 288 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: he's been balling and he you know, he's a guy 289 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: that just doesn't want to miss time. He's so competitive. 290 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: You know'll go back to those press conferences after games 291 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: last year and so down. And now you see he's 292 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: humbled a little bit. It's the first time he really 293 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: had to deal with some adversity and he's smart about 294 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: this injury. Otherwise he would have been pushing the staff, 295 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Hey let me start, and if I can't go, no, no, 296 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: just rest. And I think that's I think everyone involved 297 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: in that decision made the right call. In other words, 298 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: mj ankle watch continues for a second straight week. What 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: about hop hamstring watch hamstring watch, hop watch hop watch. 300 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I like that again, to quote Kingsbury, DeAndre Hopkins day 301 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: to day as is Justin Pugh, Max Garcia. AJ Green 302 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: remains on the reserve COVID nineteen list. There is some 303 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: good news tied end. Demitrius Harris activated off the reserve 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen lists, so he is available for the Cardinals 305 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: and welcome back Demitrius Harris. Now the Cardinals do need 306 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: to make a decision at long snapper. Aaron Brewer broke 307 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: his arm on Sunday and it's going to be a 308 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So the team has signed a veteran 309 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: long snapper to the practice squad, Kyle Nelson, nine year 310 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: veteran side of the practice squad. My guess is they'll 311 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: see how he does and if things trend to use 312 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: your word towards being good and available this week, then 313 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: he'll be elevated from the practice squad. On Sunday, they 314 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: need somebody to snap the ball. Sean Harlow's the emergency 315 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: backup of the emergency long snap. Yeah, and and clearly 316 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: the everything's on film and Jeff Rogers is back. I 317 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: trust their their evaluation in their judgment. The thing is, though, 318 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, over the last couple of years, we haven't 319 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: had to talk about Aaron Brewer or the or the holder. 320 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: And I we know a few years ago it was 321 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: an issue with Cameron Canadate candidate. Yeah, and he's he's 322 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: had a nice career in Pittsburgh. But we just you 323 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: really don't talk about special teams in there's miscues. So, um, 324 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with prater Um and Andy Lee because all 325 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean when I say they change the rule where 326 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: you can't stand over, you can't block the center, so 327 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: there isn't there is some luxury there, but you know, 328 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: obviously you've got to snap it. But the more practice, 329 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: the more comfortable they'll be going into the game. So 330 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: hopefully that's not an issue because you know, you don't 331 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: want to if you're kicking a field goal or you know, yeah, 332 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: if you're kicking a field goal and all of a 333 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: sudden it's a bad snap and then you turn the 334 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: ball over. So I don't think that will happen. But 335 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: I trust Jeff Rogers and his judgment one hundred and 336 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: six games for Kyle Nelson, most recently with the San 337 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers in twenty twenty. So someone to 338 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: keep an eye on, because you're right, MJ. We don't 339 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: talk about special teams unless something bad happens, and you 340 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: never talk about the long snapper unless something bad happens. 341 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: And we've been very fortunate Cardinals have with Aaron Brewer 342 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: because he's been money time in and time again. Fingers 343 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: on a chalkboard, Drew Butler, I mean he was remember 344 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: he was here and he had to hold it was 345 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and again it was room more the snapper 346 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, people think it's easy, but you gotta 347 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: get the ball and you gotta turn the laces real quick. 348 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: And the guys he's extending his leg, the whole ideas, 349 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: don't let that ball dribble back to the holder. And 350 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: I like the fact that he does have experience. I'm 351 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: sure they looked at other guys based on tryouts, but 352 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with a guy that has that 353 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: much experience where it's not going to be too big 354 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: for him. A couple of other roster moves of notes. 355 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: Defensive lineman Zach kerr A is back with the Cardinals. 356 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: He played in twelve games three starts in twenty nineteen. 357 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: This is his eighth year in the NFL. And a 358 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: couple of offensive lineman added to the active roster, Marcus 359 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: Henry from the practice squad, Danny is Adora, elevated as 360 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: a COVID nineteen replacement. And I wonder what those two moves, 361 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: specifically Henry and his adora. How much do we see 362 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Pew or Garcia this week or are those injuries is 363 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: far as the Achilles with Garcia and a calf with 364 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: a Pew that all of a sudden we are going 365 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: to see another offensive line shuffle. The good news is 366 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: you got Josh Jones and it was a coaching decision. 367 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: I think you got to give Max Garcia a lot 368 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: of credit for, you know, grinding an out considering there 369 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: was an issue with the Achilles, and we know the 370 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: achilles is like a rubber band. You can rehab it 371 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: and then one day you hear a pop. They got 372 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: Justin Murray, they got Josh Joel Murray's He's been designated 373 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: to return. But now we just need to see, you know, 374 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Kenny right, But that's something we can see if is 375 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: he on the practice field? Is he getting some reps? 376 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm getting at is you still 377 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: have Murray, Josh Jones, and Sean Harlowe. If you only 378 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: need one position to go in let alone two five 379 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: times over the last seven games, there's been a different 380 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: offensive line combination six times overall, but five times over 381 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: the last seven games. The teams are gonna play coming 382 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: up on Sunday. They've had seven out of their first 383 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: nine games. So remember a couple of years ago, we 384 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: were in the teens. Every single week we were paying 385 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: attention to seeing which moving part, which was coming in, 386 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: which was coming out. It's it's not never good because 387 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: you want those five guys to remain consistent for as 388 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: long as possible. And to me, I mean Hudson, he's 389 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: come back. Obviously he's a difference maker. But you know, 390 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: Beacham just hit the rib injury. Hopefully all those injuries 391 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: are behind him. So when you look at it from 392 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: your left and right tackle in your center, those are 393 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: the fixtures. Pew obviously is a better guard on the team, 394 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: but they do have backups for a reason. And I 395 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: you know how I always say you can try to 396 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: hide these guards a little bit because of Beacham, Hudson 397 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: and Hump those those to me are you know, can't 398 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: miss when they say next man up. I don't like 399 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: that at those three positions. So again, Kyler Murray, we 400 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: think at least based off what we saw and heard 401 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: on Wednesday there's a possibility of him playing this week. 402 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Don't know for certain, butts if he doesn't, then it 403 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: will be the battle of the backups on Sunday at 404 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. Two oh five is the kickoff nine 405 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: thirty am. Pregame coverage begins Coulton McCoy and p J Walker. 406 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: The Carolina Panther is making it known on Wednesday. Sam 407 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: Darnold is likely to miss at least four weeks, perhaps 408 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: as many as six with a shoulder injury fracture of 409 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: the shoulder blade according to reports, and he is headed 410 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: toward injured reserve. So no Sam Darnold. P J Walker, 411 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: who played for Matt Roll at Temple, very good in 412 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: the XFL fifteen touchdowns, four interceptions in five games. He 413 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: will get his second career starts. He started Week eleven 414 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: last season against the Lions. They won that game twenty 415 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: to nothing. He had a touchdown in tune receptions, but 416 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: PJ Walker against either Kyler Murray or Colton McCoy on Sunday, 417 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: it was interesting that Kingsbury said they try to bring 418 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: him in. Talking about Walker Walker, Yeah, uh, he's he's 419 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback. He's got a strong arm. You know. 420 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to try to rely on Christian McCaffrey. 421 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of on a pitch count last week. 422 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: But you know a couple of years ago when Kyle 423 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: Annil is here, he run wild and then they got 424 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: some white outs. I mean, guys that could spread the 425 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: field and Robbie Anderson DJ Moore. So again, they're they're 426 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: an NFL team. Obviously, they don't have the same horses 427 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: up front that they had when the start of the season. 428 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, Tyler Morton's a really good player at right tackle, 429 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: so you got to think, you know, guys like Marcus 430 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: Golden and Chandler Jones and possibly Guardick can get to 431 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that side, and Gardic can possibly you know, as a 432 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: guy that you know, dep wise, I think we're going 433 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: to see more reps from him just when we get 434 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: to after the bye week. I think we're going to 435 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: see more of the starters play a little bit more, 436 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: because that's where you want to be really in sync 437 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: going into December and January. Not ideal, at least for me, 438 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: seeing a backup quarterback with a very little film. Go 439 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: back to Week five against the forty nine ers when 440 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: Trey Lance was his daughter and the Cardinals didn't have 441 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: much film to go on. And once again that is 442 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: what is facing this Cardinals defense. And we'll hear from 443 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Vanish Joseph on Thursday and talking a little bit more 444 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: about what the Panthers do and do well on the 445 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: offensive side. One of the notes. Without Sam Darnold, p 446 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: J Walker gets to start. Well. Matt Barkley is the backup. 447 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: He was recently signed off the Titans practice squad, spent 448 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: some time with the Cardinals and twenty fifteen, then again 449 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Never appeared in a game however with 450 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, but now he is the backup to p J. Walker. 451 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: With Sam Darnold out, I don't I don't know. I 452 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm ready to go that route because 453 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: he's just getting there today. He's gonna have to learn 454 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: that he's the only other quarterback on the roster right now. 455 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: James Morgan's on the practice squad, okay, and I think 456 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: they'll bring him up Florida International. So he's on the 457 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: practice squad. He's six four, two hundred and twenty nine pounds. 458 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: So Barkley to me, is insurance if somebody comes down 459 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: with COVID. So we'll wait for Saturday because he doesn't 460 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: know the offense. He just gets out got there today. 461 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Well he's been around several teams. Yeah, but I'm just saying, 462 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, timing and stuff like that. So I don't 463 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: know if that Matt Barkley is going to be in uniform. 464 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: I would think Saturday we're going to get an email 465 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: at Morgan is going to be the backup. He's been 466 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: in the system. He's been there, so that's what I anticipate. 467 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: And again, I think it's more for insurance if somebody 468 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: comes down with COVID at that position. Barkley nineteen career games. 469 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: Perhaps a twentieth career game is in his future with 470 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Will wait and see again. Cardinals host 471 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: the Panthers this coming Sunday at State Farm Stadium. Cardinals 472 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: are hosting a holiday food drive to benefit United Food Bank. 473 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: On Sunday. There will be fourteen collection points outside the stadium. 474 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 1: Fans are encouraged to bring nonperishable food items, or you 475 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: can donate using a QR code which will be posted 476 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: throughout the stadium. Visit United Foodbank dot org for more information. Yeah, 477 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: and if you just want to donate a monetary value. 478 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: We know when it comes to Thanksgiving and Christmas, these 479 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: food banks, the shelves are low, and so peanut butter, 480 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: anything can, food, soup, tuna, fish, It goes a long way. 481 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: So if you don't want to go out and purchase something, 482 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: you can make a donation and that would go a 483 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: long way to make sure we get everyone fed during 484 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: the holiday season. Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, proud 485 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we look at what 486 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: awaits Kyler Murray or Colt McCoy on Sunday with respects 487 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: to this Panthers defense, and the numbers are very good. 488 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: The offense just hasn't helped them at all. Ie last 489 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Patriots, the defense held New England to 490 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: field goals on Darnold's final two interceptions. But overall, the 491 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: number two defense in the league, number two against the 492 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: past third and passing yards per play allowed the eighth 493 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: lower passer rating in the National Football League, fourth on 494 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: third down, sixth on fourth down Under Phil Snow, their 495 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, it is a solid defense. Yet if you 496 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: don't have an offense. It doesn't matter how good your 497 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: defense is. Well, they've just been on the field a 498 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, yes, they're doing a good job. 499 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Maybe Ben don't break. I think we looked at a 500 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: stat earlier in the week and Cardinals have what thirty 501 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: four touchdowns and they have seventeen Yeah, I mean that 502 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: sounds about right. Yeah, So now we know the Cardinals 503 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: obviously did not play well against Detroit. They still could 504 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: have won that game last year with a miss field goal. 505 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: And then they go to Carolina and Kyler said they 506 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: kind of stepped on the field and they're flat, And 507 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: so I asked them today, was it or anything they 508 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: showed you because they kind of play that. Phil Snow's 509 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: back on his college and I think the reason why 510 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: they went out and got him is because more teams 511 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: not so much in that division or weren't in this 512 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: read option in his own So he they'll they'll, they'll, 513 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: they'll go with that three three five, so three defensive 514 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: line and three linebackers. And then last year they're playing 515 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: three safeties, but now they're going back to the base 516 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: defense two corners not so much three. And then Jeremy 517 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: Chin's a guy that roams around. But Phil Snow's on 518 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: a nice job. So I asked Kyler, what did they 519 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: show you any different looks last year? This is what 520 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: his answer was, quote, we just got an ass beatum 521 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: got off the bus with no juice, no energy, and 522 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: they wanted it more than us unquote. And that's what 523 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: we all saw last year on the road. Buddha Baker 524 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: missed that game, and we pointed to his absence as 525 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: really kind of deflating the entire team going into that content. 526 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: There was just there was a downward spiral effect. And 527 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: we got fortunate enough to talk to Isaiah Simmons. He 528 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: thought going into that game he was going to play safety. Yes, 529 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: because obviously Buddha's out, but he was still learning a 530 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of different positions. You know at that point. That 531 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: was only Week four. It was one of those games. 532 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: I know people pointed to that. I pointed to the 533 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Detroit game because that was a common opponents with the 534 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, not so much to Carolina. Yeah, and we 535 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: can sit here and say, you know, that was a 536 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: it was a road game and it was a conference game, 537 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: but we all look at what happened in Week sixteen, 538 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: and seventeen in that kind of overshadows. Appic was they 539 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: were five and two and six and three, but that 540 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: would have gone a long way to get it at 541 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: nine win plateau. You look at what the Cardinals have 542 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: right now. A win on Sunday and they get that 543 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: ninth win of the season and snap a five game 544 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: losing shriek to the Carolina Panthers. It's one of those 545 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: teams that just gives this Cardinals club fits. But defensively, 546 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: the one big addition to what the Cardinals did not 547 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: see last year is who the Cardinals had last year 548 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: on their roster. Hassan Reddick signed a one year deal 549 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: in the offseason, reuniting with his college coach from Temple, 550 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: and Reddick is playing very very well. Eight and a 551 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: half sacks tied for the fourth most in the league, 552 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: twelve tackles for loss, that's tied for the most in 553 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: the league. So he's doing it again. We asked him 554 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: to do it again, whether it was going to be 555 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: here or somewhere else. So twelve and a half sacks 556 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: last season, he's got eight and a half so far 557 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: through nine games this season. Yeah, and that was a 558 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: whole idea go do it again, and you know, I 559 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: hope he plays well, but not on Sunday. Now. During 560 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the draft process, you know how I was fixed on 561 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: Derek Brown. He's really playing well. He's the one that 562 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of creates, uh, you know, he's the guy in 563 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: the middle that can create split double teams. Brian Burns 564 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: another guy that can get to the quarterback. Shack Thompson 565 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback. So I think they've done 566 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a good job drafting. Jeremy Chen was one of the 567 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: players that really stood out last year considering where he 568 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: went to school and all that. They're moving him around 569 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more so they have They have good players. 570 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: And it's funny because you go back to the playoff game. 571 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley gets a start and I'm telling you Arion's 572 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: told him, if Luke Keickley drops in the covers, don't 573 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: throw the ball. This is on the sideline. The first 574 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: play he throws, luke Keikley drops pick. And then the 575 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer team none of their five star players played 576 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: well in that game. Larry Shack Thompson shut him down 577 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: for two first downs, Patrick muff the punt, Sean Johnson 578 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: got a used by Philly Brown in the secondary. Claius, 579 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody played well in that game, nobody, So 580 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of circumstances behind it. But you're right, 581 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: they've they've been, and give round rivera credit because they 582 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: had a different model and that team was more run 583 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: the ball with Johnason Stewart and what was the other 584 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: running backs name he had, Dreads Williams. Yeah, yeah, so 585 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: they were a little bit different team based on just 586 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: to makeup, but yeah, it's surprising he's been five times 587 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: in a row though. Yeah, those two playoff lost Angelo Williams, 588 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: you talk about part of that five game losing streak. 589 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: The playoff games obviously stick out like a sore thumb. 590 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: The Brian Burns is dealing with an ankle injury that 591 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: he suffered against the Patriots. Everyone knows about the controversy 592 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: with respects to that. He addressed the media in Carolina 593 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: earlier on Wednesday, he fully expects to play five and 594 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: a half sacks, nine tackles for lost, four passes defense 595 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: as a defensive end, someone you got to pay attention to. 596 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: And then Derek Brown drafted seventh overall, one spot ahead 597 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: of Isaiah Simmons. There were a lot of people that 598 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: thought Simmons might have been a better fit in Carolina 599 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: because he can be used and differre different spots around 600 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: the field. And then if that would have happened, the 601 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals would have selected Derek Brown. There's no doubt in 602 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: my mind. Another thing would have been made sense because 603 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: he played at clemson hometown or the local. I know 604 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: you're not drafting a guy like that, but but Derek Brown, 605 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I think they hit a home run with him. He 606 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's just like Quentin Williams. You know, 607 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: he was in the conversation with Joe with Nick Bosa, 608 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Quintin Williams is playing really well. So yeah, I mean, 609 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't disagree he would have been the pick, and 610 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong with either or. But I think 611 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: what the Cardinals are doing defensively, Isaiah Simmons fits more 612 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: to what they want to do versus having a d lineman. 613 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have that spot filled up for the 614 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: next five to ten years. But again, that was a 615 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: really good draft and he definitely has lived up to 616 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: the billing. We were fortunately fortunate enough to be in 617 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: Indianapolis in twenty twenty for the scouting combine it was 618 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: ahead of when everything got shut down, But could not 619 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: have been more impressed as far as a first impression 620 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: with Derek Brown addressing in the media for whatever it 621 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: was fifteen twenty minutes and learning more about not so 622 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: much the player but the person and what he had 623 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: to go through to be in that position at Auburn 624 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: and ultimately getting drafted by the Carolina Panthers to the 625 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: point where, hey, you know what if he is parts 626 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals that it's a great person, a 627 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: great player. But I do like what you said the 628 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals being able to get Isaiah Simmons. They're using him, 629 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: which is what Clemson was able to do, and move 630 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: him around and doing more so this year, and he's 631 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: more comfortable in that position. So you really could not 632 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: have gone wrong with either Burns or excuse me, Brown 633 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: or Simmons. Yeah, and that's the beauty. I mean, it 634 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: would have been interesting because I think a lot of 635 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: people thought that, you know, Belichick, Zavan Collins is exactly 636 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: what he's looking for when you look at Dante high 637 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Tower and some of their linebackers. But obviously when mac 638 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: Jones was there, it made so much sense for the 639 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: Patriots to get him, and he's probably been the best rookie. 640 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: And then obviously Collins was there on the board, and 641 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: it would have been an interesting I think you were 642 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: in an agreement. We never thought Dallas was going to 643 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: take him because they were so much in love with 644 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. And then you had a couple of wide 645 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: receivers go off the board. He had a couple of 646 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: corners go off the board. So it just worked out 647 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: for them. Cardinals and Panthers coming up on Sundays. We 648 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: take a look at the Panthers defensively very good against 649 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: the past, and a lot of that is because of 650 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: the past rush. And you wonder, now the plan of 651 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: action for the Cardinals if it is Cult McCoy, and 652 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: even if it is Kyle the Murray, as far as 653 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: the game plan against the forty nine ers getting the 654 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: ball out quick, whether that's the screen game or short 655 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: dump off passes, if that's the plan of attack against 656 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: the Panthers because of their pass rush, well, I mean 657 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: Carolina started off three and oh they're they're only giving 658 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: up less to two hundred yards in the air. I 659 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: think it's okay, that's even better. That's hard to do 660 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: in this league. I mean, now, granted they don't score, 661 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: so teams are running the football and then they can 662 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: obviously when you get the Patriots score twenty four points 663 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: on them, So yeah, that's they're not playing complimentary football. 664 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: They're they're chasing, they're chasing a scroll out there. At times. 665 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: It's a good analogy because one touchdown, one offensive touchdown 666 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: over the past three games by the Carolina Panthers offense, 667 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: and that's making this defense work extra hard. Their numbers 668 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: are good, but at some point you just run out 669 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: of gas and then all of a sudden, as we said, 670 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna have the best defense in the league, but 671 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: if you don't have an offense to compliment it, you're 672 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: not gonna win well. And if they were only initially, 673 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: they were only giving up like eleven points a game 674 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: in the first three weeks, right, So that's fine if 675 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: you can score fifteen to twenty. But teams are scoring 676 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty five and sometimes either a little bit more depending 677 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. So again, that's one thing I like 678 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals. They played complimentary football. They forced turnover, 679 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: It gives an offensive short field and you know, listen, 680 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: they hired Matt Rowle. He's got a six year contract. 681 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: We know that owner wants to win, but it's going 682 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: to take some time. And again everyone's dealing with injuries. 683 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna miss their starting center. I mean that that 684 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: was a devastating ACL and then Cameron Irving. Their left tackle. 685 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: Tyler Woulton's a really good player at right tackle. I 686 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: don't know if they would move him because going into 687 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: free agency. Before the Cardinals played then, we talked about 688 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: how he's going to get paid in free agency. He did, 689 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know footwork and all that other stuff 690 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: and moving him around, you know how, you know, moving 691 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: furniture around doesn't always work. So I got to think 692 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: that he's going to be the right tackle. That's why 693 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: I think he can attack the other side. Quick notes 694 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: on the Panthers secondary are as. The names they have 695 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: back there a Dante Jackson, Stefan Gilmore. He's played in 696 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: two games after being acquired from the Patriots. You keep 697 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: mentioning Jeremy Chenn. He's there leading tackler. The one name 698 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: we will not see on Sunday is JC Horn, the 699 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: eighth overall pick, broke his foot in late September he's 700 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: on injured reserve, as is their starting safety Justin Burris, 701 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: so missing two key pieces. Yet at the same time, 702 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: Jackson has played very well. Gilmore just getting to Carolina 703 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: and then Jeremy Chenn he's always around the football. Yeah. 704 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: I talked to a scout that was at the game 705 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: this morning and he mentioned that Dante Jackson two and 706 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: eighteen second round pick, really good player. He said, he's 707 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: got good ball skills. Now when it comes to Stefan Gilmore, 708 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, initially you know he was still recovering from 709 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: an injury. But now he's playing, I don't think he's 710 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: going to be right. And they were hoping maybe they 711 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: get to the postseason because what they're trying to do 712 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: is is create pressure and then be able to cover 713 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: on the back, and especially in that division when he 714 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: got the Saints, the Bucks and the Falcons. But the 715 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: scout that I talked to him this morning, he was 716 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: thoroughly impressed with Jackson. They have a j Boulleau there 717 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: and Jeremy Chin's been rotating a little bit, but they 718 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: do have a rookie corner named Keith Taylor. Here's a 719 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: fifth round pick in twenty twenty one, and don't forget 720 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: they went out and made the trade for CJ. Henderson 721 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: from the Jacksonville Jaguars, who was a former first round pick. 722 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: So they're trying to flood the position a little bit. Well, 723 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: you look at their unofficial depth chart and Henderson's third 724 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: string behind Gilmore, who is behind Jackson So a lot 725 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of bodies out there, and they've been 726 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: forced to work very, very hard but producing, and we'll 727 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: see how the Cardinals attack that defense. You got like 728 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: an hour and a half of spare time for me 729 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: to read the Cardinals official injury report for Wednesday, MJ. 730 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: Well can be maybe at this point, maybe we just 731 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: figure out who didn't who practice versus who didn't practice. 732 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough. Fifty three man roster plus 733 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: sixteen practice squad guys. Twelve players did not practice. But 734 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: as we said, this was not a practice, this was 735 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: a walkthrough, so participation is an estimation. As the injury 736 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: report says, all right, here are the twelve names. Buddha Baker, 737 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer, Jase Edmonds, Max Garcia, DeAndre Hopkins, Rondel Moore, 738 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Jordan Phillips, Justin Pugh, Jonathan Ward, David Wells, 739 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: James Wiggins, twelve of the fifty three on the active roster. 740 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some quick math here on the fly 741 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: as we talk with you here on Cardinals cover two 742 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: presented by Honday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Twenty 743 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: three percent of the active roster did not participate during 744 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: what would have been a practice day on Wednesday. Was 745 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,959 Speaker 1: not a good percent? Was that your Syracuse man? Yes, 746 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: maybe with the help of the calculator. Fine, at least 747 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: we don't have an apicus here, so it's Wednesday. Yes, 748 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: I know, that's what I was just going to remind 749 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: the Bird gang, And I'm glad you reminded me because 750 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: twelve that's without seeing the rest of the previous eight 751 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: weeks of injury reports. That's got to be a season high. Yeah, 752 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: it has to be. That's kind of where we are. 753 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when you play, you know they played with 754 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: three games in fourteen or fifteen, twelve fourteen days, they 755 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: had three games in twelve days fourteen That sounds about right, 756 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: maybe fifteen. That's why you just can't wait to get 757 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: to the bye week. But they got three games ahead 758 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: of him. So let's take care of business there. It 759 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: was asked of Simmons about the injuries and that bye 760 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: week approaching he and he acknowledged, Yeah, we are aware 761 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: that it's right around the corner Thanksgiving week. It's a 762 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: late bye week. Yet at the same time, you can't 763 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: look ahead to where these games, whether the Panthers or 764 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawks next week, become games that you overlook, don't 765 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: try your best, don't play your best, and you let 766 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: slip through your fingers. Because as many of these wins 767 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: that you can stack right now, it's going to make 768 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: the month of December and the first half of January 769 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: that much better for the Cardinals when it comes to 770 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: winning the division and then seatings. Yeah, and we'll see 771 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: how healthy Russell Wilson is. You know, they're going against 772 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: the Packers this week. So I mean, if you take 773 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: care of business against the Panthers, you still got to 774 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: play the Seahawks twice. You got the you know, you 775 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: got the Rams, you got the Lions, Indie obviously the Cowboys. 776 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see what happens in week eighteen, 777 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: because that game's here. You know, the Cardinals resting players 778 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: maybe play a quarter or a half. I guess we'll 779 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: get we'll talk about that way you get here, but 780 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, take care of business here and 781 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: then you know, play the Seahawks. It's a difficult place 782 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: to play. Let's hope we have that discussion that week. 783 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: As far as resting players against the Seahawks. With the 784 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: buy in the first round, all of a sudden, you're 785 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: arresting guys for two straight weeks. And I know a 786 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: lot that's a lot of time not being on a 787 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: football field. And there are some coaches, some players that 788 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: don't like that. And that gets back to our discussion 789 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: about Kyle the Murray and this notion that all you 790 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: just rest them and it'll be back and ready to go. Well, 791 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: too much time off is not always good. So if 792 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: Kyle the Murray is able to go, let them play. Yeah, 793 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, 794 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: but I think ESPN their analytics has them going fifteen 795 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 1: and two just based on the opponents. I think they'll 796 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: be favorites in every single game. But at the same time, 797 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean getting a number one seed. I know history 798 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: says that it's not automatic, but just getting rest right 799 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: there when you didn't have your bye week until week twelve, 800 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: but I think they would have to have a simulated 801 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: game in practice to where you got to. You gotta 802 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: stay fresh, you gotta be in sync. But there's nothing 803 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: like recovering and rest as you go in the postseason. 804 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: We saw the Bucks last year. You have to go 805 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: on the road the first round, second round, third round, 806 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: and luckily they benefited from hosting the super Bowl, and 807 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: that's what the beauty is. But we all know that 808 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: wildcard weekend, you could see a team that's playing hot 809 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: to get into playoffs, a five, six or seven seed, 810 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: they upset someone. I mean, you get to the division 811 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: around and that's the first time you're playing and you're 812 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: playing a team that's probably been playing pretty well over 813 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: the last month of the season. There is such a 814 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: thing as too much rest. And I'll take the buy, yes, 815 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying again, this team has been focused 816 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: and burring any injuries at certain positions. I think they're 817 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna be fine, but they gotta go through the process 818 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: and I really like their approach every single week. Again 819 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: getting a little ahead of ourselves, but forecasting, when you're 820 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: eight to one, you can afford to do that a 821 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: little bit as we continue here on Cardinals Cover two 822 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Before 823 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: we head on out of here, it is a Wednesday. 824 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: That means another episode of Cardinals Folk Tales is available. 825 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: It will debut later on Wednesday. Cards Go Hollywood. Really 826 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to this one because we all know Jerry 827 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: McGuire and the success of that movie, But did you 828 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: know how much a role the Cardinals played in the 829 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: production of that film. 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We're really looking 836 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: forward to that one coming up later on this evening, 837 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 838 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, proud 839 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 840 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Almahundro for Mike Jarecki. I'm craig 841 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: Rie Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on 842 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: Cardinal Les cover two,