WEBVTT - Legacy of a Warrior: Dwight Birdwell

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<v Speaker 1>It was late on a summer night, and Dwight Birdwill

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<v Speaker 1>could sense something was wrong. He was a specialist in

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<v Speaker 1>the Army in command of a tank, and that tank

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<v Speaker 1>was parked alongside a main supply out near a little

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<v Speaker 1>village in South Vietnam. The year was nineteen sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight could hear a group of water buffaloes shuffling and

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<v Speaker 1>grunting in a pen nearby. He had grown up in

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<v Speaker 1>the Oklahoma countryside, and he knew that livestock wouldn't move

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<v Speaker 1>at night unless something was disturbing them. He knew in

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<v Speaker 1>his bones that something was wrong. He peered out of

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<v Speaker 1>the turret of the tank, using his starlight scope to

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<v Speaker 1>cut through the blackness of the night nothing, but he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't shake the feeling. He decided to go out and look.

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<v Speaker 1>He woke up the driver of his tank, a gentle

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Bill Watts, and asked him to take his

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<v Speaker 1>place at the turret, and then Dwight headed out into

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<v Speaker 1>the night. He crossed the road, moving quietly through the brush,

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<v Speaker 1>listening intently to see if he could hear whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was he felt. He crept house to house in the village,

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<v Speaker 1>shining his flashlight over families sleeping on bamboo platforms, finding nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing nothing, just the slow breathing of sleeping civilians and

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of the insects in the night. So Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>turned to head back to the tank, and at that

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<v Speaker 1>very moment, three or four rocket propelled grenades flashed by him,

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<v Speaker 1>hissing as they went. It was a sound that Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>was horrifyingly familiar with. Dwight watched as they hit his

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<v Speaker 1>take the tank's cash of ammunition was set off, fueling

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<v Speaker 1>the explosion. The noise of the blast rocked a little village.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he saw something bright like a comet, fall from

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<v Speaker 1>the tank. It was Bill Watts. He was on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dwight bird well started running I'm j R. Martinez

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Medal of Honor Stories of Courage. The

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<v Speaker 1>Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, awarded for gallantry and bravery and combat at

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of life, above and beyond the call of duty.

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<v Speaker 1>Each candidate must be approved all the way up the

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<v Speaker 1>chain of command, from the supervisory officer in the field

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House. This show is about those heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>what they did, what it meant, and what their stories

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<v Speaker 1>tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. That moment,

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<v Speaker 1>that night at the tank changed the course of Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>Birdwell's life. It transformed him from a tough twenty year

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<v Speaker 1>old determined to fight into someone who could not look

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<v Speaker 1>away from the terrible cost of war, someone who would

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<v Speaker 1>ask God at that moment and for many years afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>why was I the one to survive? Dwight's story is

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things. It's about the prior he

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<v Speaker 1>feels in being part of the Cherokee Nation, a community

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<v Speaker 1>with a remarkable history of military service. It's about his

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary bravery in the battlefield. An episode that feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it's straight out of a Rambo movie. Dwight it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy who put himself in harm's way over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again because that's where he felt he belonged.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of all, it's the story of a man

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<v Speaker 1>coming to grips with the feeling of guilt that even

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<v Speaker 1>the highest honor in the military cannot absolve. Dwight Birdwell

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<v Speaker 1>never really knew his father. His dad was an oil

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<v Speaker 1>filled worker of Cherokee descent, a hard drinking man who

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<v Speaker 1>was in and out of jail a lot. He pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much disappeared from Dwight's life when he was little. When

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was three, his mother met and married Ed Birdwell.

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<v Speaker 1>They settled in Oklahoma in a town called Bell Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight remembering.

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<v Speaker 2>The community was about ninety percent Cherokee, maybe more. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a very very rural area, an area of poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a hard life what people may do.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived right on a creek, and every morning I

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<v Speaker 2>remember a Cherokee lady coming down the creek. In the evening,

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<v Speaker 2>she would come back and she would have a shring

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<v Speaker 2>of fish over her shoulder that she had caught to

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<v Speaker 2>feed her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight's stepdad was a farmer and his mother worked in

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<v Speaker 1>the fields picking beans and strawberries. Even though Dwight was

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<v Speaker 1>a talented student, he was discouraged from even thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>going to college. The message from his high school counselor

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<v Speaker 1>was essentially, you're an Indian, you won't amount to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dwight was determined. He decided to find his own

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<v Speaker 1>way out by joining the military. He knew the GI

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<v Speaker 1>bill would send him to school, and he liked the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of service.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the Cherokee man in the community and

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<v Speaker 2>area had served in World War Two and served in Korea,

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<v Speaker 2>and they emphasized that it was a Cherokee tradition to serve.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did it out of a sense of duty

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<v Speaker 2>to the country and out of a sense of obligation

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<v Speaker 2>to Cherokee ancestors.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was eighteen, with deep set eyes and a crooked smile,

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<v Speaker 1>and dark hair parted on the side. He was already

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<v Speaker 1>fit for the army, but not because he played football

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<v Speaker 1>or basketball or wrestled. Get this, because he worked chasing

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<v Speaker 1>chickens six nights a week.

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<v Speaker 2>We left home about five retractions in the evening and

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<v Speaker 2>went to northwest Arkansas and caught chickens all night until daybreak.

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<v Speaker 2>You go in and catch the chickens, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>would run outside and you would climb up onto a

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<v Speaker 2>flatbed truck and load the chickens, run back down and

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<v Speaker 2>go get another bat. Shopping all night long.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a random detail, but I love it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not sure I've ever heard of a night time chicken

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<v Speaker 1>catcher before. What even is that? Anyways, back to Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>in the Army. When he enlisted, he asked to be

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<v Speaker 1>sent straight to Vietnam. This was spring of nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six and the war was just warming up. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight tested so well that he could have gone to

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<v Speaker 1>office a tree and at West Point, he chose combat instead.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like that was my duty, my mission, to

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<v Speaker 2>go where I was most neated, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was most neated in Vietnam. Of course, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily want to die, but if that was my destiny,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be my destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>In September of nineteen sixty seven, Dwight landed at Tunsut

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<v Speaker 1>Airport outside of Saigon. He remembers marveling and how beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>and green the countryside looked from the plane, and he

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<v Speaker 1>remembers seeing a line of body bags on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the runway and thinking this is it. I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was assigned to Troop C, third Squadron, fourth Cavalry,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth Infantry Division, which we're going to refer to

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he did as the three quarter calf.

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<v Speaker 1>It was task was securing Highway One, the main supply

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<v Speaker 1>route running north from Saigon to the Cambodian border. Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>was well liked and for once his intelligence was recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>he was given a spot doing radio repair, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the relative safety of the rare echelon. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to fight, and before long he joined a tank

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<v Speaker 1>crew as a gunner. He knew exactly how dangerous it

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<v Speaker 1>would be.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to tank you've got an iron coffin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was convinced that the US was right to be

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<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam. He saw the bodies of town officials assassinated

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<v Speaker 1>by the National Liberation Front. He knew how brave they

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<v Speaker 1>must have been to stand up for their values. But

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<v Speaker 1>he saw dead via Con guerrillas too. They were young,

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<v Speaker 1>about his age, and Dwight looked at them and thought

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<v Speaker 1>they aren't evil. They're just as idealistic as I am.

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<v Speaker 1>But as nineteen sixty seven turned to nineteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight and his this platoon began to stumble across well

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<v Speaker 1>hidden bunkers, caches of weapons, signs of movement of change,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the early morning of January thirty first, it

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<v Speaker 1>happened a coordinated attack throughout South Vietnam. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Tet Offensive. Here's a news report describing

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<v Speaker 1>the situation in nineteen sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>It all amounts to the most ambitious series of communist

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<v Speaker 3>attacks yet mounted, spreading violence into at least ten provincial capitals,

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<v Speaker 3>plus American air bases and civilian installations, stretching the entire

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<v Speaker 3>length of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The order came down to Dwight and the three quarter

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<v Speaker 1>Calf to get to Tan Sanute Airport. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>most active air base in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, there is a squad of VC breaking into

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<v Speaker 2>the wire at Tan Shanut with preeport. Cab was so

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<v Speaker 2>confident that we sent two turns down. There were only

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<v Speaker 2>about sixty off. It went down and overtook ptains.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought they would only be fighting a ragged handful

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<v Speaker 1>of viacom. They'd outpowered and outgunned. That kind of enemy

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<v Speaker 1>forced before. So the men got into their tanks and

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<v Speaker 1>went But what awaited was in a skirmish. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an ambush. The tanks of the three quarter calf barreled

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<v Speaker 1>down Highway one toward the Tansanute airfield. The second platoon

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<v Speaker 1>was at the lead, third platoon Twipe's platoon followed behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Third tracks kicked up dust as they rumbled forward. Through

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<v Speaker 1>their early morning hours, the sky grew lighter and overcast gray.

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<v Speaker 1>The trip down was abnormally quiet. The convoy passed no

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<v Speaker 1>civilian traffic on the road, and the nearby houses seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be deserted. It was almost peaceful. Then the lead

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<v Speaker 1>tank reached the airport and a wall of fire erupted

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<v Speaker 1>from a hamlet along the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaos. They let us go right into the middle and

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<v Speaker 2>then cut loose, and within a very short period of

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<v Speaker 2>time a couple of minutes to laid patone was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much wiped out.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a scrappy group of Vietcong that was waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the North Vietnamese Army, and they now surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>the convoy on three sides. The sky was suddenly filled

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<v Speaker 1>with eerie green lights falling towards the American tanks. They

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<v Speaker 1>were tracers which the North Vietnamese used to see where

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<v Speaker 1>their fire was going.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's all these green craisiers coming out and all

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<v Speaker 2>these rockets coming in. Boom boom, boom boom, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. What in the world's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight's tank was at the very front of his platoon.

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<v Speaker 1>As the lead platoon exploded, his tank pulled in right

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<v Speaker 1>behind them. One of Dwight's friends, franklin Kuff, was in

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<v Speaker 1>the lead platoon. He and other veterans who knew Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about their experiences in a documentary made by Osio

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<v Speaker 1>voices of the Cherokee people. Frank remembers seeing Dwyke's tank

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<v Speaker 1>rattle into place.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, it's seeing good. We gotta do something. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>when Sir Petun Comb pulling up and there's Doy like

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<v Speaker 4>a Knight in shining armor.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost instantly, Dwight's tank commander was hit a bloody hole

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<v Speaker 1>where his left eye had been. Dwight got down and

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<v Speaker 1>lifted his commander out of the tank under heavy fire

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<v Speaker 1>and put him in the ditch that ran just along

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road. The injured gis from the

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<v Speaker 1>lead platoon were gathering there as well, and then Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>returned to his tank and took command. Every vehicle ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of him had been put out of action, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no way to retreat. There were too many wounded

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<v Speaker 1>that would be left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the bullet climb by my head, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just thank boy, that's an unpleasant sounds. But I kept going.

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<v Speaker 1>He started firing back. He didn't have time to fill

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<v Speaker 1>any fear. There was no place for it. He used

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<v Speaker 1>the tank's cannon, he used the tank's machine gun. His

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<v Speaker 1>head and torso were exposed to enemy fire, but somehow

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<v Speaker 1>the bullets didn't find him. In the meantime, more survivors

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<v Speaker 1>from the Leeds platoon were making their way to Dwight's position.

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<v Speaker 1>The ditch beside his tank was the only spot with

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of relative safety. Even though the enemy was

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<v Speaker 1>advancing close on Dwight's left, he couldn't fire the tank's

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<v Speaker 1>cannon in that direction because he would hit those wounded gis.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead, he got up on that tank, took aim

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<v Speaker 1>with his machine gun, and opened fire. David Young was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those soldiers taking cover in the ditch that day.

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<v Speaker 4>If it hadn't been for these high fired rounds going

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<v Speaker 4>over my head the other way, I wouldn't be here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight was fully exposed to enemy fire. Bullets whizzed by,

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<v Speaker 1>close enough to blow the communication device off of his

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<v Speaker 1>tanker helmet, but still he didn't get hit.

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<v Speaker 2>What was going through my mind was to keep fighting

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<v Speaker 2>until I went down, and if I went down, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't gonna shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of his helmet was shot off. He could no

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<v Speaker 1>longer provide battlefield updates to his commanders. He couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>any guidance either. All he could do was shoot and

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<v Speaker 1>drive the enemy back until he used.

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<v Speaker 2>Up all my ammunition.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a helicopter directly above him. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>three quarter Calves Commander Lieutenant Colonel Glenn Otis. He was

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<v Speaker 1>circling the action, leading from the sky. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>men in a three quarter Calve adored Otis. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant leader, fair and brave, ready to be as

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<v Speaker 1>much a part of the action as his men were.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Otis's helicopter took a direct hit. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about to crash, and it was heading straight for Dwight's position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm watching a helicopter come down. It's thinking

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<v Speaker 2>this is not real.

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<v Speaker 1>The helicopter hit the ground, bounced hard, and came to

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<v Speaker 1>a stop, the skids mashing down the bar wire fence

0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that ran alongside of the airport. Otis and his crew

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<v Speaker 1>got out and ran from the helicopter as fast as

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<v Speaker 1>they could in case it caught fire. Dwight watched them

0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.680
<v Speaker 1>scramble away, and then he thought that helicopter has something

0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that I need. He hopped down from the tank and

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<v Speaker 1>raced to the chopper, cutting his legs on the concertina wire.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight made it to the chopper, pulled two machine guns out.

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<v Speaker 1>He passed one to a front, got the other back

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<v Speaker 1>on top of his tank and opened fire.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't slowing down at all. He just kept doing

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<v Speaker 2>a job.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept going, protecting those wounded men in the ditch

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<v Speaker 1>next to him, holding off the enemy. And then inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>he was hit.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember a big flash and Lord of blood

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of my head and down my face, at

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<v Speaker 2>my chest and what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>He had shrump, no wounds. He was bleeding badly, but

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Dwight wasn't worried about that. He didn't feel like he

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<v Speaker 1>was particularly injured. He was worried about his gun, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 2>That sixty was in two pieces. I'm looking at my gun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a toy, you know. I had torn a hack.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I gonna do now?

0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>He only had the side arm in his holster. It

0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.000
<v Speaker 1>would have to be enough. They were shooting all around him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the enemy was still on every side. He was

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.960
<v Speaker 1>bleeding from his head. He was majorly outnumbered, but he

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 1>hadn't lost his resolve.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just felt like, I'm going to fight as

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<v Speaker 2>long as I can. I wasn't gonna say die until

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<v Speaker 2>I was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got off the tank and went down to

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<v Speaker 1>the ditch where the other soldiers were. He rallied three

0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of them to advance to the front of the column

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<v Speaker 1>of tanks to set up a defensive position. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy move, four guys trying to hold off a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of enemy fighters, but to Dwight, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>only move, the only way to keep the enemy from

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<v Speaker 1>coming over the top and get into the wounded gis.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy was a non Indian from our harbor Main,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got two Native Americans from Port Gambo Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>who was actually a medic Oliver Jones, and then there

0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.359
<v Speaker 2>was an Ottawa from Michigan, and we went down the ditch,

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<v Speaker 2>took up a position to hold off the North Vietnam mainons,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were pretty low in the ammunition and it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like that it was almost over with.

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>They huddled in front of the convoys lead tank, but

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>little big tree that stood alone by the road. When

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.800
<v Speaker 1>they peeked over the edge of the ditch, they could

0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>see hundreds of enemy soldiers. They were massively outnumbered. Dwight

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.000
<v Speaker 1>looked over at the airfield where he arrived in Vietnam

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>less than a year before, where he'd seen those green

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<v Speaker 1>body bags.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an eerie feeling at that point because we

0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:00.639
<v Speaker 2>were right on the runway and these large airliners then

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>PanAm World air Waves were sitting out there just ready

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>to check off.

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Those airplanes were filled with people getting out of Vietnam,

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>escaping from the war, going home to safety.

0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Here we were about to die looking at those big planes,

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<v Speaker 2>and just was very very strange. Failing.

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Dwight and the other soldiers threw grenades at the enemy.

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Machine gun rounds hit the tree above their heads. Showering

0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 1>them with leaves and branches, and then they heard the

0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.399
<v Speaker 1>rumble of vehicles. Troop BE of the cavalry was coming

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>to help. Even with his life on the line, Dwight

0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>saw some humor in that.

0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.359
<v Speaker 2>You know in the movie the cab is always saving

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:55.920
<v Speaker 2>nine Indians from Indians. Here's these three Indians being saved.

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.320
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't a movie script. The cabs saving the Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>Helicopters flew low over the open fields. Dwight remembers them

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.160
<v Speaker 1>laying down a smoke screen to conceal the arrival of troopy.

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Then the air filled with the sound of American tanks

0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>taking out the enemy positions. The wounded gi started getting

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>loaded onto Metavac helicopters. Dwight was ordered to board one too.

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Remember he was bleeding from his head. He got on

0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.639
<v Speaker 1>it all right, but then he just slid across and

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>out the other side of the chopper and returned to

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get back on the battle. I could

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 2>still go.

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.920
<v Speaker 1>He helped the other men, those wounded guys in the ditch,

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>loading them onto helicopters, getting them to safety, and then

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 1>finally he was forced to get help himself.

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I've put on a helicopter and it was full of bodies.

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:03.200
<v Speaker 1>That helicopter felt like an airborne morgue. But it could

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>have been so much worse.

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 4>He saved many, many, many lives that day. You just

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.440
<v Speaker 4>can't believe what he did that name. It's hard for

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 4>me to believe it, and I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Army agreed with Frank. Dwight received a Silver Star

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for his actions that day. He was, by all accounts,

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a bone of fide hero. He knew that his survival

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>was nothing short of a miracle, but the thought of

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the people he couldn't save nagged at him. And then,

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 1>several months later, on a creepily quiet night, it all caught.

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>After ted the war and Vietnam changed, the enemy suddenly

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be everywhere. Morale among the American troops was terrible.

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Their focus went from winning the war, whatever that might mean,

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to just surviving and getting home. Dwight had been a

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>true believer, but he began to feel dragged down and depressed.

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>All the same, he still had his unique capacity to

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>keep pushing forward, and even when he wavered, he took

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>his commitment to service seriously, which meant that his fight

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of a lifetime kept happening. Here's his friend Ted Bagley,

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>who served with him, speaking on that Ossio documentary. We

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about Tomson Knut and the things he did, but

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he did that the whole time we were in Vietnam.

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a one time as fair. That's what people

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 2>don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight received another Silver Star in July of sixty eight

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for going back into an enemy occupied village to rescue

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>stranded American troops. Nobody had wanted that assignment, but Dwight

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 1>volunteered for it, not once, but twice, over and over again.

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Dwight put his life on the line and survived. Birdie

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>had at least ten tons of news. He became commander

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>of a tank and was particularly close with two of

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the soldiers that served with him, Bill Watts and Harold Donnelly.

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Harold and Dwight were best friends, pretty much inseparable, and

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Dwight looked up to Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Watch was very tender guy, very compassionate, had a

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<v Speaker 2>view of life that took me years to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Two Which brings us to that night by the road

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>in that little village, the one I told you about

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>at the start of the episode. A stifling hot July

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>night in nineteen sixty eight, Dwight's platoon was set up

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>along the roadside. The water buffaloes moved in their pen

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>as Dwight peered out into the darkness to figure out

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>what he was sensing, what felt wrong.

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I got bailed up and I put him in a turret.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you take over. I'm gonna go out there

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>and do some recon. So I went out searching for

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>North Vietnam ass and I couldn't find anything.

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.959
<v Speaker 1>And that's when he turned and saw the RPGs hit

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the tank and his friend Bill fall out of it

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>on fire from head to toe.

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Bill Wats came out of that tank tent a ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Of fire, just like in tons of nude. Dwight didn't hesitate,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>so I run.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Back to the tank, didn't get Bill. But as I'm

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>carrying him out, my friend Harold Donaldy said, Dwight, help me,

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>help me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hurt.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.959
<v Speaker 2>I said, Harold, I'll be back and help you when

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I can. You be a man, you take that pain.

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Being a man taking that pain was the logic Dwight

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>had learned over all those months in Vietnam. But after

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he got Bill out, of Harm's way and went back

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>for Harold. He saw what had become of his friend.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So I got back after I'm taken care of Bill,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 2>got Harold, picked him up. Harold was mangled his splash. Listen, patients, strings,

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<v Speaker 2>hang on, and forever to this day, feel bad about

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>what I said too. Hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to pause here and point something out.

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>This recording was made more than fifty years after that

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>terrible traumatic night, and Dwight is still crying when he

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>remembers the way he spoke to his friend. I think

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 1>that tells you more than anything else. Who Dwight birdwill is.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>A day or so later, he went to see Bill

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital. He was racked with guilt. He kept

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 1>thinking it should have been me. I should have been

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>able to prevent this. He was looking for his friend,

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>not seeing them anywhere, when.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I heard this boy and it was Bill. Don't you

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>recognize me? I didn't recognize the burns he had. I

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>were fierce, and I knew he was dying. And we

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>talked for a bet and afterwards went out. I sat down.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I just cried and cried and cried.

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>And then he noticed people next to him sitting in

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that same waiting area.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He's a bit a family, come I right, and they

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>had a young girl, probably six or seven years old.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Incredibly beautiful young lady. They're so pretty, and she was

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>so happy.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Here is something Dwight hadn't seen for months, something beautiful

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and peaceful and warm, an antidote to the pain of

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing his dying friend.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, she turned her whole

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>face to me, and it was blown away on the

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>right side of her face.

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>The side of her face was a mass of scar tissue.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Her eye was gone, and I just thought, noted it out.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>No more.

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't take this anymore.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Dwight Birdwill, the truest of the true believers, the first

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to volunteer for action. The warrior was done with the war,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>just done. He served the rest of his tour, and

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>then he got out as as fast as he could.

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>When his flight left Vietnam, Dwight looked out the window.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>The green paradise that had greeted him when he'd flown

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>in sixteen months before was gone, and its place was

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a landscape that looked like the surface of the moon,

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>pock marked with craters, burned and destroyed. He wondered to himself,

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>what was it all for? Bill died of his injuries.

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Harold Donnelly survived, but with medical issues that would plague

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>him the rest of his life. He and Dwight stayed

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in touch until he died. Dwight always felt that he

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>had been bad luck for Harold. Dwight took Bill's dog

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>tags with him when he left Vietnam. He carried it

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>on his keychain for years, as a reminder, maybe or

0:29:56.480 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a pendance Dwight's story does it end there? Of course,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the army gave him the ability to do the thing

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone said he couldn't do, go to college become a lawyer.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>He married a sweet girl named Virginia, who had also

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>grown up poor in a Cherokee community near his They

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>had two kids, a daughter and a son. But none

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of it was easy for him. When Dwight first returned home,

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<v Speaker 1>he drank, He had nightmares. He carried those memories of

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and Harold, of the other men and the civilians

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't save with him like a sack of stones,

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<v Speaker 1>And like so many veterans, he cannot talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>war at all.

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<v Speaker 2>The war haunted me for years, particularly the salt of

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<v Speaker 2>why did I survive and so many other UH purists.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, late one night in nineteen seventy nine, as Dwight

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<v Speaker 1>was drinking himself, as he puts it, to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of a fifth of bourbon, he decided two things. The

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<v Speaker 1>first to stop drinking. The second was to stop obsessing

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<v Speaker 1>over the things he could have done differently in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a reckoning. I came to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing I could do about the past. I

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<v Speaker 2>could just live for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Right around that time, something else happened. Dwight saw his

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<v Speaker 1>old commander, Glenn Otis again in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>He had told me a few days after talk said,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm going to recommend you for the Medal.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Honor, but nothing had ever come of it. No

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<v Speaker 1>out here was Otis, who had become a four star

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<v Speaker 1>general since the two had parted ways in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>He asked me, what happened to the medal of honor?

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<v Speaker 2>Are not? Probably me said we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>do something about that, And I just felt like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if that's one of those changes would never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The years kept going by. In addition to his law practice,

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight went to work for the Cherokee Nation, serving as

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<v Speaker 1>one of three justices of the Supreme Court. Eventually he

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<v Speaker 1>served two terms as Chief Justice of the Cherokee Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fitting role for a man who could so

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<v Speaker 1>clearly see both sides of a conflict, and all during

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<v Speaker 1>that time and for long afterwards, General Otis worked to

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<v Speaker 1>get Dwight his Medal of Honor for his brave stand

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport that first day of the Tech offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I never wanted the medal of honor. All I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>was a fair consideration. General ODIs got me that per consideration.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, in May of twenty twenty two, more than five

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<v Speaker 1>decades is that action at Tons newd It happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a call from President Biden and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to award to you Adelbonner, and he talked

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<v Speaker 2>to me very graciously for about ten minutes. Going into

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation, he said, this is a big deal. And

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<v Speaker 2>then somewhere else in the conversation on down the road,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, this is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a big deal. But like so many men

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<v Speaker 1>who have been awarded the medal, Dwight doesn't see it

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<v Speaker 1>as something for him. He sees it as something for

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<v Speaker 1>all those other men who fought and didn't survive.

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<v Speaker 2>This medal is for the men who went down that day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for the family except those who didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for those who were injured and later died or

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<v Speaker 2>later lived impaired lives. I'm thankful for it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to show you that I'm not thankful, but for

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<v Speaker 2>doth Men, their family, for the Tree Quarter k and

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifth Temperantry Division.

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden put the medal around Dwight's neck.

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<v Speaker 5>And at a long last, at long last, your story

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<v Speaker 5>is being honored as it should have been always.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of Dwight's friends from the calv were there at

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<v Speaker 1>the ceremony. So was his daughter, Stephanie, who currently serves

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<v Speaker 1>as the director of the Office of Tribal Government Relations

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<v Speaker 1>at the Department of Veteran Affairs.

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<v Speaker 5>And I might know, Native American communities serve in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States Armed Forces at a higher percentage rate than

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<v Speaker 5>any other cohort in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight's daughter thinks she understands why.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be. Native people, as the original inhabit to

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<v Speaker 2>this land, have an especially strong connection.

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<v Speaker 4>To the land we live on.

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<v Speaker 2>It is truly our homeland, and that can be a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful inspiration and source of motivation to serve.

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<v Speaker 1>When Dwight walked away from the war in Vietnam, he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped doing one kind of service, but he didn't stop serving.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked to help the Cherokee nation as persistent as

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<v Speaker 1>he ever was on the battlefield. I think his devotion

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<v Speaker 1>to service must stem in part from the guilt that

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<v Speaker 1>he still carries even today about the people he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to save. But it also stems from his deep

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<v Speaker 1>bedrock of faith. He believes that when his time comes,

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<v Speaker 1>he will stand before his God and maybe then finally

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<v Speaker 1>he will find the absolution that he can't give himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, but I did go up for Judge Vun.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had the courage, I would ask God, why

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<v Speaker 2>did you let me lay up? Did I fulfill your flirtation?

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<v Speaker 1>The Medal of Honor, by definition, tells the world that

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight Birdwill didn't just fulfill expectations. He went far, far

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<v Speaker 1>above and beyond them. I can't imagine his Maker will disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>Medal of Honor. Stories of Courage is written by Meredith

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<v Speaker 1>Rollins and produced by Mereth Rollins, Jess Shane and Suzanne Gabber.

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<v Speaker 1>Our editor is Ben Adolf Hoffrey. Sound design and additional

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<v Speaker 1>music by Jake Gorsky. Our executive producer is Constanza Gallardo.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact checking by Arthur Gomperts. Original the music by Eric Phillips.

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<v Speaker 1>Special thanks to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, the

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<v Speaker 1>US Department of Veteran Affairs, and Cherokee Film Productions for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing material from At Long Last, Dwight Birdwell's Medal of

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<v Speaker 1>Honor from the docu series Oscio Voices of the Cherokee People.

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