1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: It's funny how those things, how sheets orme or igniting 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: our other senses not necessarily the visual SEMs can be 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: so wow reminds you that you're alive. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghurspace dot com to access our 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: women like you. We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Bussard, a 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: college professor and psychologist. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: five roids to fake friends, and create a safe space 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: where black women can just be. 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: Hey, lady, it's doctor dom here. From the Cultivating her 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 5: Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the state 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 5: of California in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, 23 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot 24 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 5: com that's d R D O M I N I 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: q U E B R O U S s ar 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: D dot com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. 27 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 5: I look forward to hearing from you. 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 6: Okay, lady, we have a special guest today who is 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 6: going to teach us all about spicing up our bedrooms 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 6: and enhancing our relationships with our bodies. But more specifically, 31 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 6: are vaginas Okay, yes, I said vagina or pussy or 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 6: lady parts or whatever you want to call her, okay. 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 6: Belle de Lorenzo is the CEO and founder of Goddess 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 6: That's Goddess with an Age, a sex education company for 35 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 6: women looking to build their dream sex slides. She's also 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 6: the creator and author of the Olympus Program, the world's 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 6: first online course on the secret pelvic floor art of 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 6: compor domin I had a chance to complete the course, 39 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 6: and we also read Bell's book and lady, when we 40 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 6: tell you, we have had some incredible experiences with her work, 41 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 6: so we wanted to have her on the podcast so 42 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 6: that we could put you on to this good, good 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: game unintended. Okay Bell, welcome to Cultivating herst. 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: Please, thank you so much for having me you guys, 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: this is wonderful and I love your platform. I'm saying 46 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: plenty of your reviews before and I'm just really enamored 47 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: with what you do. I'm so glad you you we 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: can have this conversation. Thank you. Well. 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 7: We are looking forward to this conversation, and so we 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 7: will start with our quote of the day. And Belle, 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 7: this quote will sound familiar to you because it comes 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 7: from your book. And now, lady, as you hear this quote, 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 7: know that it sets the groundwork for our conversation today, 54 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 7: but also for all the benefits that you can get 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 7: from signing up for this Goddess Force. 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: It's our quote of the day. Do not. 57 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 7: Use what you learn on men you don't care about. 58 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that for the people in the back. 59 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Do not you what you learn on men you don't 60 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: care about. 61 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 7: Ooh, okay, Bell, when you hear that, those are your words, 62 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 7: that that was your like key piece of advice before 63 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 7: anyone gets started with the course. Why why why is 64 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 7: that the advice? 65 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I love that. You know, I've never been quoted about 66 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: I've never been quoted to myself before. That was definitely 67 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: an experience. Yeah, so it's thought, why what your listeners 68 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: are going to learn about today? It's it's it's powerful stuff. 69 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: And so something that will I'm sure we'll get into 70 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: is that the skills and these things that we get 71 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: to do with our bodies and these powers that we 72 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: innately have within us can be very very pleasurable. But 73 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: that also means that they can they can enchante men 74 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: a lot. They can become a real hope for for 75 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: a lot of men. So I would definitely not use it, 76 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: not use any of this on someone that you really 77 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: don't care for, because, trusting ladies, you won't know how 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: to get this man off your back because it's it's 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: a lot, it's a lot of it's it's crazy stuff. Okay, 80 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: So was the best way I knew how to run, 81 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: how to put it into words, you know, it's yeah, 82 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: and that's one side of things, all of things, because 83 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: the other side of things is, you know, not all 84 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: men deserve the best of you. And this is so 85 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: that is a word. Yes, we love. That's so true. 86 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 6: Okay, So that we're going to jump into all the 87 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 6: juicy details, right, We're going to talk about all the things. 88 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 6: But we've had the pleasure and the privilege of learning 89 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 6: more about you from your book, and of course we'd 90 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 6: love to let our listeners know, like who are you? 91 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 6: How did you get start on this journey? So let's 92 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 6: talk a bit about your origin story and how you 93 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: became the bell deliveranzo that we see today. 94 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: So I've always been a dork. I've always been a nerd. 95 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: I was definitely at late bloomerle and came to sex. 96 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: I come from quite a conservative family here and in Argentina, 97 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: wre you know, my family was quite religious. My parents 98 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: they waited until marriage until they were together. So I 99 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: never I never had the talk with my mom. It 100 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: was just understood that I was going to wait until marriage, 101 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: and that was the way that all my family had 102 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: done it. But in the schools that I went to 103 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: that wasn't the case for anyone else. I didn't go 104 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: to Catholic school, so everyone was having sex, and I 105 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: was just obsessed with the idea of it. What is 106 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: this thing that I can't talk about? And you know, 107 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: in the taboo. It was just really fascinating to me. 108 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: And there's a story that I shared in the book 109 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: that I had a sex ad teacher when I was 110 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: fourteen or fifteen, I don't remember exactly. And she was 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: just amazing, Miss Cheeky we call her. She was just 112 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: she She came onto the classroom and she said, a 113 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: lot of the girls are having sex, but you don't 114 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: even know what you like. You're just having sex to 115 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: please your your boyfriends or because you think this is 116 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do at the stage. But no, 117 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to teach you how to master be and 118 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: this Leni was teaching us how to how to understand 119 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: pleasure for ourselves because she knew that most of kids 120 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: were having sex. So she was like, okay, so got 121 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: on to this. You know, do it right, do it 122 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: because you want to understand the implications of it and 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: how you can you know you can get something out 124 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: of it, and how it can be enjoyable and beautiful 125 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: and healthy. So then, and I was a straight A student, 126 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: So I went home when I did my homework. Yes, 127 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: So she taught us exactly, she taught us everything about this, 128 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: and so I was fifteen. She taught us how to 129 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: you know, how to touch ourselves, so to understand ourselves. 130 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: I think I believe it was with the showerhead of 131 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: our ow badom. I think that was the idea. And 132 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: so because when I went home, I started doing it. 133 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: I basically had a decade from that point where I 134 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: didn't have sex whatsoever. But I was a crazy maniac 135 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: for understanding myself and for knowing what I liked. So 136 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: that's a very odd it's a very odd introduction into sex. 137 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: All I knew a lot about my own pleasure, but 138 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: I didn't really I wasn't really doing anything, not even 139 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: kissing a boy at that point, so it was it's 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: a different it's a pretty unique story. Throughout this I 141 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: was just, you know, I was I was very much 142 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: interested in what sex meant. So I would write these 143 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: stories of what I thought sex was, and I would 144 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: watch these movie scenes and the Notebook and all this 145 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: passionate kissing and all of this eronic stuff, and I 146 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: wanted to understand more of it. And I would give 147 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: my friends who were actually having sex advice on the 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: stuff that I would read and I would learn. So 149 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: the Internet says, this is how you give a good 150 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: blow job. So this is what you should do when 151 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: you go home with your boyfriend. I was just giving 152 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: advice without knowing first being a book X myself. And 153 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: then when the more when actually came, you know, because 154 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: I knew a lot about my own pleasure. I had 155 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: a really good first experience, which was it's not everyone's case, 156 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: but my case was quite unique in that in that sense, 157 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: so I'm really happy that I knew about that. And 158 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: then you know, with with that with my second boyfriend, 159 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: that's when the idea for for Goddess came about because 160 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: I because of something that I had read in my 161 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: past and I really wanted to put it into into practice. 162 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's my background, just a weird combination 163 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: of of door and sex mania. 164 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 4: Hey lady, it's Terry here, dom and I want to 165 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: take a moment to thank you for choosing to listen 166 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: to our podcast. 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All right, lady, 203 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: we'll hop right back into the conversation. 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 7: Well, I think I think thank you for sharing that, 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 7: and I think it's so important for us to step 206 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 7: back and like, really look at how did we what 207 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 7: was our introduction into sex? And I think what's so 208 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 7: beautiful about your experience is that it wasn't for the 209 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 7: pleasure of someone else, that your first experiences were truly 210 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: about you. Because the healthiest sex relationships are when we 211 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 7: know what works for us and we can communicate that 212 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 7: to our partners, and so I think your experience is 213 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 7: so beautiful. 214 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned. 215 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 7: That your second relationship was part of what prompted you 216 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 7: to start the Goddess program, and so can you tell 217 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 7: us more about founding Goddess and creating the Olympus program. 218 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: I love this. So my second relationship, it started amidst 219 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: or just before the pandemic hits, and the it was 220 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: a it was a great relationship in all aspects except 221 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: for sex. And by that point, I you know, when 222 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: I basically when I when I when I started having sex, 223 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it so much just because I knew about 224 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: what I like so much that I I was just 225 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: I was always the higher libido partner or on my 226 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: both on both of my previous relationships, and so I 227 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I really enjoy this. And in my 228 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: second relationship, when the pandemic hits, I was expecting us 229 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: to be having sex constantly, and when I found out 230 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: that it wasn't the case, I started so I wanted 231 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: to understand what happened. And something that I didn't know 232 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: anything about was that men can have, you know, sex, 233 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: traumas and sex things themselves and stuff that haunts them 234 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: as well, which is which is one of the one 235 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: of the many misconceptions about sex is that men want 236 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: to have sex constantly all the time. And nothing stops 237 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: them and there's nothing that they could feel insecure about, 238 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: which is a big, bad life. That's a lot. Yeah, 239 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: so far, true completely, And so he was the one 240 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: who kind of taught me that, you know, he had 241 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: had some experiences that weren't so great in the past, 242 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: and so sex for him turned into this very into 243 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: the thing that that that his past relationship would would 244 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: kind of use it to manipulate him. It was a 245 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: very very transactional thing. And I was like, oh wow, okay, 246 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: this sucks because I love this man and this is great. 247 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: How can I how can I fix this? And this 248 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: is a big part of my personality when there's a problem, 249 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: I need to figure out how to fix. That's something 250 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: who I am. I said, Okay, what can I do? 251 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: How can I take the knowledge that I have and 252 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: how can I apply it? And I remember that in 253 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: the past I had read about this thing called pomboire, right, 254 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: and there's this women from from history that were able 255 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: to manipulate their pelvic flour muscles to create all sorts 256 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: of unique sensations. And there were some ping pong shows 257 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: and Thailand of women who could, you know, do crazy 258 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: things with their vaginal muscles, and I'm okay, this is 259 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: fantastic and it feels like it would be very pleasurable 260 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: and maybe this could introduce a co different aspect of 261 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: sex where he doesn't need to do all the work, 262 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: and maybe I can introduce something different, and maybe it 263 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: can be. But it was definitely about pleasing him and 264 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: and at the beginning because for me it was like 265 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm having a good time anyways, so let's let's see 266 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: how I can help him. Right, So I was like, okay, one, 267 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: what is what? What's out there for this? But the 268 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: more I started looking into this, the more I realized 269 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: it was all it was all this weird secret that 270 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: nobody wanted to unveil. Nobody wanted to tell you how 271 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: to do it. So when I looked up Flauren, maybe 272 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: it's still like that. Unless you find my side, you'll 273 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: still find this. These articles on like women throughout time 274 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: while A Simpson, Giandiput, Cleopatra, all these women who were 275 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: able to to to to you know them men to 276 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: their will, doing all of these crazy things, but no 277 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: one actually teaches you how to do it. So I 278 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: was like, okay, how do I how do I? How 279 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: do I turn this into a thing time I was 280 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: really into fitness. I was really into body weight fitness 281 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: because it was all we could do during the pandemic. 282 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: We're just doing calisenics at home a little bit. The 283 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: public floor muscles shouldn't be that different from all our 284 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: other muscles. Correct, So okay, how what we were happen? 285 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: If I apply all the concepts of muscle training that 286 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm using on my biceps, my clothes, my legs to 287 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: my public floor, do something and if not, you know, 288 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: it's a nice test. So that's sort of how I 289 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: started understanding more about the public floor, and the more 290 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: I started looking at it from that angle, the more 291 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: in sound research on public floor training and the benefits 292 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: that it had, and the more the more I started 293 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: putting together. It was almost like I had a board, 294 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: like the the people who are trying to solve mysteries 295 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: of like, yes, this is not okay. So there was 296 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: this guy, Arnold Kigel. He created this. All the research 297 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: points to this being really great for women, but we're 298 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: not talking about it in terms of women. We're talking 299 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: about it in terms of how it used to please men. 300 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: So how where's where's the missing piece here? Why is 301 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: no one talking about this, So that's how I started 302 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: sort of developing the different moves. And my partner at 303 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: the time, he used to say that he was the 304 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: first product tester. Thely time moved. We would try it 305 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: and then he was yeah, he just he absolutely loved it. 306 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: And that's not kind of how we really started connecting 307 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: in sex again. And he was actually the one who 308 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: told me, Okay, value need to make this a thing 309 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: because you know, if it helped us imagine the women, 310 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: that is going to help imagine imagine it's on the 311 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: women's side. Because sure I enjoyed sex. But from that 312 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: point on, things started getting really weird. Like I was 313 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: already a highly beadle person, but that turned it start 314 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: into one hundred. It was crazy, and so I'm like, okay, 315 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: this is something, and then different weird things started happening, 316 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: like you know, you know, I was trying to get 317 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: orgastles much faster I had. I started having more gasoms, 318 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: so like things that I was like, Okay, the only 319 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: variable that's changed if we want to be you know, 320 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: if we want to be scientific about this, the only 321 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: variable that's changed is that I started training. So how 322 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: is it that all these things are happening. This is 323 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: really odd. So that's when I started, you know, digging 324 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: into the science behind publics or training and it seems 325 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: that all the research that we have points to these things, 326 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: and yet we're not talking about it. So that's kind 327 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: of how it started. That's how that's kind of how 328 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: I decided to design the program and this way that's 329 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: kind kind of weird with all the images and colorful 330 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: images of vaginas, because I wanted to be really not 331 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: intimidating for people and very you know Pg. Thirteen if 332 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: you were to just look at it. So that was 333 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: kind of my idea for the course to make something 334 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: that's very practical that gets straight to the point on 335 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: how you train this and it doesn't have to be taboo, 336 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be pornographic. It can just be, hey, 337 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: this is something that seems to have a lot of 338 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: benefits that some of them we still don't understand. So 339 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: how do we train this and how do we you know, 340 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: do we enhance our sex lives? And also, yes, our 341 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: partners will definitely not complain as well. 342 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: Yes, oh my goodness, Okay, bell sous I want to 343 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 6: say thank you for the work that you've done because 344 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 6: I feel like Dom and I we have a couple 345 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 6: of things in common with you. One that were we 346 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 6: were also late bloomers to sex as well, and I 347 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 6: know before I even started having sex, I was also 348 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: very intrigued and interested in it. So I was like, 349 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 6: I remember a little I feel a little shy talk 350 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 6: about some of this on the podcast, but I'm gonna 351 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 6: say put this out there. But I remember in grad 352 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 6: school I had a folder and I literally went back 353 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 6: on my computer and there was a folder like how 354 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: to be a cornstar in bed, Like I was like 355 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 6: doing researching how be better at sex? And I think 356 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 6: that there's a misconception that if you want to learn 357 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: these things, you either aren't good at them or you know, 358 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 6: you don't have as People say like that, why right 359 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: that as wet as puts good puts to whatever it 360 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 6: might be. People think that maybe you don't have that 361 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 6: if you're doing the research. But I think a lot 362 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 6: of it has to do with being like a lifelong 363 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 6: learner and the same way that we learn other subjects 364 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 6: we're interested in like how can we get it even better? 365 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 6: And so thank you for the tools. Your book is 366 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 6: hilarious like your personality really comes off the page. And 367 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 6: what I love about the course as well, Bill, is 368 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 6: that it isn't pornographic, right, Like, it's very educational, but 369 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 6: it's fun the images, the colors, the different types of 370 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 6: vaginas that you feature, but it's in a very inviting 371 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 6: way right where it makes it feel more inclusive. 372 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: And so I want to ask. 373 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: You, can you talk a bit about some of the 374 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 6: core movements that you teach in the course, because I 375 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 6: know when I learned that you could, you were talking 376 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 6: about twisting penis and milking it and doing all these things. 377 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 6: I was like, what, why hasn't anyone ever taught this before? 378 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 6: And as I began to do these exercises, I noticed 379 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 6: very significant changes with my own body, Like it was 380 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 6: very it was fascinating. So tell us about some of 381 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 6: the movements that you teach and they're supposed to do 382 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: all that good stuff. It's it's yeah, I love that. 383 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: And and and to address your first point, it's it 384 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: feels like, first of all, I think that's a very 385 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: common coming of age story, all of us just looking 386 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: at you, know, am I well, how do I give 387 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: a Blowdray? I'm kind of be good at this and 388 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: how do I make it feel better? 389 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 9: So it's such as a female experience, right. 390 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: Because you either I think I feel like a lot 391 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: of us when we were younger and we accidentally clicked 392 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: on something and borne appeared. Because there was a time 393 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: in the two thousands that poor was everyone when I 394 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: go there, yeah, going on. Yeah. And it's also scary 395 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: and so confronting and intimidating, so you're like, okay, if 396 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: this is it, then I don't want any of that. 397 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 7: So I don't know. 398 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: So I think a big part of it was a 399 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: big part of it for me. My goal was how 400 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: how can I make this sexy? Yes, but not you know, vulgar, 401 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: because I you know, it's a word to teach this 402 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: to my mom, which I have. I have that funny 403 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: story of how I told I told my mom for 404 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: a first time. Could she could she learn from this? 405 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: If this was because I don't like it, it's two 406 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: pornographic and if you know, if it's a moment is 407 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: training this exercise and the little kid walks in, I 408 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: don't want the little kid to be traumatized? So how 409 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: do we do this? So? And and the way that 410 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: the exercises work it's kind of crazy because the way 411 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: that I like to explain it is that there are 412 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: three planes of movement to the vagina, and so you 413 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: have the for those of you who know keegels, and 414 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: I think I think Cardi B talks about kiggles in 415 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: while he's inside it, so like okay, okay, interesting, yeah, right, 416 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: he's spreading you know, gospel, so like fantastic. So the kegels, 417 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: the contractions, those are up and down motions. And that's 418 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: if you can imagine your public floor is like a diaphragm. 419 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: It's like a like a string of muscles, like a 420 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: whole hammock of muscles supporting your public organs. They can 421 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: go up and down. And that's what we call one 422 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: of the three planes of movement, which is the transverse plane. 423 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: All the movements up and down the vaginal canal, all 424 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: those are the generally the easiest ones to work and 425 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: the ones that will create the most strengthener public flow. 426 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: And for example, we've got milk and we've cut pulling, 427 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: we've got releasing all that stuff. Up and down movements, 428 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: those are some of the greatest easiest beginner friendly skills 429 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: that you can learn. And these are typically in During 430 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: keigle training, you will learn this aspect of vaginal training. 431 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: You will learn how to contract, how to release, how 432 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: to contract fast, how to release entirely, how to contract 433 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: all the way up and slowly release like an eccentric contraction. 434 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: And those are different things that you can do, and 435 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: then you can you can make it more fun and 436 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: you can do it through different beats and rhythms of 437 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: songs that you can do it best and slow, et cetera. 438 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: And that's fantastic. And that's what we call the transverse plane. 439 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: So that's movements up and down the muscles. Then when 440 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: pollpour starts adding to this is when we start working 441 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: so the different sides of the vaginal canal, because the 442 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: vaginal canal is you can imagine as this tube and 443 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: the muscles surround it completely, So you can start activating 444 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: the muscles that are surround this canal. So then we 445 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: got the frontal plane. Frontal plane of movement is what 446 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: involves the side walls, so the horizontal left and right walls, 447 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: and that's a different aspect of it. So if you 448 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: can move independently each wall, you can start creating different moves, 449 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: like if you can imagine the rock Johnson moving each 450 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: of its pegs. Y. Yeah, individually. Yes, that's kind of 451 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: like moving one side of the vagina and then the 452 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: other side of the vagina. And if you do it, 453 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: you know, with enough strengths and start tilting up penis 454 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: and shifting it back and forth, which is really interesting. 455 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, this is something. And then as you 456 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: create more strengths, you can then combine this with the 457 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: transferse plane and you can do so you know, you 458 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 2: can start squeezing and closing the canal at the entrance, 459 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: at the middle, at the top, and that feels completely 460 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: different to the contractions that we were talking about before. 461 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: So that's when you start getting into what we called 462 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: biplane or training or training between the two planes. You're 463 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: combining movements from both planes horizontal walls and then vertical 464 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 2: levels of the muscles. And then you can add what 465 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: we call the sagital plane, which is the front and 466 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: the back walls. It's a third level to this, which 467 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: is basically you know, you have as you have the 468 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: side of the left and right walls, you then have 469 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: the front and the back walls. So what happens when 470 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: you start rocking someone back and forth inside of you. 471 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: How does that feel? And how does that feel again? 472 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: Through different levels up because you know, generally in the 473 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: first few inches of our vaginas where most women have 474 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: their g sepots. So what happens if you start rubbing 475 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: yourself with your vaginal walls exactly in the most errogenous 476 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: zone you have. Okay, well, that can be very pleasurable. 477 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: So if you start doing that in combination, then with 478 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: the frontal plane, in combination, when with the transferse plane, 479 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: you have this array of exercises that are simple combinations 480 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: of all of these walls moving individually. So what the 481 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 2: book kind of teaches you is how you can develop 482 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: complete control over each plane and then you can even 483 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: the side your own moves because say that you really 484 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: enjoy that's a great thing about this. It's like your 485 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: vagina can be like a map. Because some women someone 486 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: for example, really enjoy deep penetration because they feel a 487 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: lot of pleasure at the very top of their vaginal 488 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: canal near their cervix. It's like, Okay, if you really 489 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 2: enjoy that, then you can stimulate with some movement of 490 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: these muscles, because you'll learn to identify all the little 491 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: different zones of your vagina. You can start stimulating that area, 492 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: and you can do it by contracting. You can do 493 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: it by squeezing. You can do it by rubbing back 494 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: and forth, you can do it by squeezing left and right. 495 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 2: Whatever you enjoy most with or without a penis insideal 496 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: with or without a toy insidup. So that's kind of 497 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: how the movements are formed. So some movements from the 498 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: from the transferse plane, as we said, are milking, fluttering, contracting, pulling, releasing. 499 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: Some moments from the frontal plane are squeezing, locking, whipping. 500 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: Some movements from the sagittal plane are rocking, are shimming, 501 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: are then we get into twisting when you combine, then ring, 502 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: and when you combine again. So in these combinations of 503 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: planes is where you find all the different moods. So 504 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: for a very long women, and the way you'll describe that. 505 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 7: It it feels like turning the vagina into an amusement. 506 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: Park, right like this is like I love that well 507 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: that I did not write that. That's all you guys, 508 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: I need not write that, dom It's perfect, thank you. 509 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: And but you know what. 510 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 7: I also like about this is that even though we're 511 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 7: having this conversation and thinking about how the vagina can 512 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 7: pleasure itself and also pleasure a penis, and so it's 513 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: very very heterosexual dynamic. 514 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: What I love about what you just described. 515 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 7: Is that we don't even have to have a penis involved, 516 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 7: and that you can do this on your own and 517 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 7: you might not even be in a heterosexual relationship to 518 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 7: use these skills to bring pleasure. 519 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: Exactly if you have a vagina, if you have a 520 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: public floor, female public floors, you gota. Some women use 521 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: it on theirselves, on the on themselves, without any partner 522 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: at all. Some women are completely you know, they're single 523 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: and they're enjoying masturbation so much more because of this. 524 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: And we also have almost sexual couples doing this since 525 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: it's that's what I love about it the most. It's 526 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: just women have turned it into their own thing, Like 527 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: everyone has used this training in their own ways and 528 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: they're made of their own and that's what I love 529 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: about the most. I think that's that's beautiful. Yes, So 530 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: a quick follow up question, so if one could use 531 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: use this with a penis, then can one who let's 532 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: say someone is in a relationship with someone who doesn't 533 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: have a penis Can you use fingers? Can you use toys? 534 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: So are there other things besides a penis that we 535 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: can utilize? Absolutely? Yeah, you can. In fact, a great 536 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: way to train when you start understanding the most generally, 537 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: even if you're in a heterosexual relationship or not, when 538 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: you start training, you don't train while you're having sex. 539 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: You try to train on your own because if you're 540 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: having sex, probably get really distructed and just start going 541 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: for it. So if you train on your own, a 542 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: great way to judge your progress is by using your fingers, 543 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: or by using a toy, or by using a del doo. 544 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: And then we have some we have a really great 545 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: couple of them thinking of and there are two women. 546 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: And the way that they've done it is so they 547 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: bought the brook. I'm emailing them right now. They're wonderful. 548 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: They bought the brook and they are they kind of 549 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: train together. So they train in the morning, they train together, 550 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: and they're doing this sort of like they're doing this 551 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: competition where I'm not one night of the week they 552 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: show each other, I mean that each of them have 553 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: read it and so and so they presumably they use 554 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 2: their fingers on each other to test out what the 555 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: other one is doing to them, and then they'll see 556 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: whether they incorporate in their in their in their sexual 557 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: lives or not. It's so it's so wonderful. I'm like, 558 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: oh my god, that was so great. 559 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 6: You've read my mind because I was thinking about what 560 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 6: you mentioned about fingers. I think, if I recall correctly, 561 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 6: in your book, you talked about how you initially were 562 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: uncomfortable using your fingers, and I feel like my introduction 563 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: to masturbation, I was like really into the fingers that 564 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 6: you know, the clip, We can play with the clip, 565 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 6: but going inside like it just there was something about 566 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: it that I wasn't comfortable with. So how did you 567 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 6: get more comfortable with it? And do you have any 568 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 6: advice for people who want to explore masturbating more with 569 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 6: their fingers instead of using the toy, because it sounds 570 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: like fingers will be helpful as you're going through the 571 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: exercises to feel the difference. 572 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: Fingers are very helpful, I would say. And I'm not 573 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm not a you know, a sex educator in that 574 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: in that sense, but I it was hard for me 575 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: at first, and I remember I was a big fans 576 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: with the shower head up first, but I would say 577 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: it's it can fingers can feel quite, can feel really medical. 578 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: I feel for some people and so it's like, oh, 579 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: this feels kind of odd. So you know, I would say, 580 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: do what you're comfortable with. And some some women who 581 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: have the course dy prefer when they're partners, they start 582 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: touching and they're like, hey, baby, feel this. I think 583 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: that I'm trying something new. What do you think? 584 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 10: Generally men, though, what I will say is like they 585 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 10: can be quite unhelpful because they will like everything, this 586 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 10: is wonderful. 587 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, tell me exactly. That's good. That would say, 588 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: do what you're what you're comfortable with. 589 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well okay, I think it's time we shift 590 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 7: up the energy a little. 591 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's shift that, Let's do it. 592 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 6: There's so many questions we could ask, so bell because 593 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 6: we appreciate and celebrate the multifaceted woman, and we believe 594 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 6: that it's okay to be elegant and you can dance 595 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 6: to strip club. 596 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: Music if you so choose. 597 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 6: I'm trying to look at these, I'm trying to look. 598 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, just forgive me, it's you. 599 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm distracted by all the topics that 600 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 6: we're talking about. There's so many things I want to ask, 601 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 6: so many to get We're. 602 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: Going to do this over. 603 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 6: I'm going to look at my script, Bell, so I 604 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: can stay on one target. This is real life, y'all. 605 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 6: That is what happens when you're recorded live. So because 606 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 6: we recognize I appreciate and celebrate the multi fasted woman, 607 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 6: and we believe that it's okay to be boogie, classy 608 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 6: and ratchet, you can still be elegant and dance to 609 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 6: strip club music, we want to invite you to the 610 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 6: oh you blatchet segment? So, Bell, do you take on 611 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 6: the challenge? 612 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I take on the challenge it. 613 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: So, now that you've agreed, we're going to tell you 614 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 6: what to expect. So we have three questions for you. 615 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 6: We have three sentimce completions, and then we have three 616 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 6: this or that's for you. So we're going to ease 617 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: into this segment. And the first question for you is 618 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 6: what's the best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received? Okay, So. 619 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: The best piece of advice I received is do not 620 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: rely on motivation because motivation is fleeting. Rely on discipline. 621 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: That is my favorite. Yes, I love that, and that's 622 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: been true in my life because I feel like a 623 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: lot of the things that we for anything that we 624 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: want to pursue, motivation is going to be fleeting. There's 625 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: some days and we're going to feel like it, and 626 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: many days, and I would say most days we're not 627 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: going to feel like it. But just showing up for 628 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: yourself for something that you want to do ends up 629 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: becoming you know, and training that discipline muscle is so 630 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: much more valuable than expecting that news to come in 631 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: and just activate you with motivation. And that's so so fleeting. 632 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: So that's what I would say. 633 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 6: That is such a good quote, And that's a quote 634 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 6: I found a quote similar to that on my fitness 635 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: journey and that's what was motivating me to work out. 636 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 7: So I love that you should. Okay, So our next 637 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 7: question not as deep, real simple. Favorite song comes on 638 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 7: twerk or two step. 639 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm bad at both, damn. It's okay, Belle. 640 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 6: You can do some key bols or some yeah, yeah, yeah, 641 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 6: I'll do some some vaginal you know, yeah, some some 642 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: something like that I'll have to do. 643 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to say I tried practicing turky. I'm 644 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: just so bad at this but I really want to 645 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: get good at it, you know, visible, and I should 646 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: go back to my last quour and just there the 647 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: love that we believe me. You got this, you can 648 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: do this. Okay. 649 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 6: Our third and final question for this segment, Bell is 650 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 6: what's the sexiest item you own? 651 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's funny to get besides besides my business, 652 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: I am such an un sexy person. Okay, it's sexiest 653 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: I am my own mm hmmmm. I have really nice sheets, 654 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: so I I do try to buy some nice silk sheets. 655 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: And I find that just just even when you and 656 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: you're after you know, after you have a nice shower 657 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: and you lay down on those silky sheets, they're just 658 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: you just feel sexy. It's almost impossible not to feel sexy. 659 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: So I would say, my my sheets are really nice. 660 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: It's not super not super exciting, but they feel really nice. 661 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 7: Again that that that could. 662 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: Be a game changer. You know, like. 663 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 7: You said, you get out the shower, you are laying 664 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 7: down on some beautiful silky sheets, and it just it 665 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 7: would automatically make you feel sexy. 666 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: It's it's funny how those things, how sheets or for 667 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: few or like you know, igniting our other senses, not necessarily. 668 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: The visual sense can be so wow, reminds you that 669 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: you're alive like that, Yes, minds you you're alive. 670 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 7: Okay, So bell our sentence completion the first one. One 671 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 7: question or topic I wish people asked me about more. 672 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: Often is well, probably vaginal gymnastics, I'd say, because I 673 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: love talking about this, so this is definitely it. Another 674 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: one is jazz, because I really like jazz. I'm just 675 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 2: you asked for one. I don't know why I get. 676 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 7: For it. 677 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 2: I'm annoyed. Also, I just like when stop or when 678 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: they don't ask me to stop, I'll just stop those thing. 679 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 6: Yes, So jazz. This topic, okay, this is going to 680 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 6: be a fun one for you. What's the most or 681 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 6: the most embarrassing thing I've ever done to get my 682 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 6: questions attention? 683 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 4: Is? 684 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh god, everything I have. So so I'm single right now, 685 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: and they're a guy at the gym that I really like, 686 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: and so this has quite recent. 687 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 9: I look Cep like, so the other day he was 688 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 9: very he's very clearly not a trainer there, because this 689 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 9: gym that I go just full of trainers with their 690 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 9: orange shirts. 691 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: But I was like, you know, this guy was just 692 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: doing all sorts of like pull ups and push ups 693 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: and looks fantastic. I was like, oh, so you're a 694 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: trainer here, you know, you think that you can coach me, babe, 695 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: maybe about you know this, And it's like, well, it 696 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 2: seems like you're doing it quite well. But the trainer's 697 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: right there. I was like, oh god, but he keep 698 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: He then asked me a question, so I'm like, I 699 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm that far off, but I keep 700 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: asking him for stuff that I definitely could ask trainers. 701 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: So I guess that's pretty embarrassing. 702 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 6: That is so cute, though, But he like, come on. 703 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: One of these days he will, though, I feel it 704 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: for you. 705 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 7: One of these days he will, He'll get He'll catch on, yes, 706 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 7: because he keeps engaging, he keeps he does keep engay. 707 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just that both of us are 708 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: so socially ineptsent That's what's interesting. You know that happens 709 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: more than we think. Oh God, such a weird place 710 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 2: to approach people to because you're like with your music 711 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: and you're like, do I bother this person? Do I 712 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: not bother this person? Like? What what you say? And 713 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: you could you could, honestly be asking for advice to 714 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: so you never really know how to thread that line, right, 715 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: that's a good yeah, yeah, that's just. 716 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 7: I think a lot of us are, and so our 717 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 7: final sentence completion. What I love most about myself is, oh, oh. 718 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: This question so lovely. I want to say, I'm a 719 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: relentless optimist and just just obnoxiously optimistic. I remember my 720 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 2: my first my first sex, he said, he said, we 721 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 2: are like Mickey Mouse from Health. Great, that's a great 722 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: and this is awesome. I think it was trying to insult, 723 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, take this. I think that's great. 724 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: Not to be super optimistic, but I think that's a 725 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: great great as I am. I am a naturally very 726 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: it's just obnoxiously positive person. I think I've been called 727 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: like a toxic optimist and that because that's the thing 728 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: now like, okay, but I I am quite I am 729 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: quite relentlessly positive. I like that. I like that a lot. 730 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: I know that I need to get. Something that I'm 731 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: working on is, you know, allowing people to not allow 732 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: myself and allowing other people not to feel good all 733 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 2: the time because we don't obviously feel good all the time, 734 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 2: and not trying to change the situation constantly so that 735 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: the fault is good and allowing myself to feel negative 736 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: things as well. But but I'm but more often than 737 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: not it's been a good thing. I guess, yeah, yes, 738 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Come on, bell. 739 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 6: So we're never going to try addition to our three 740 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 6: this or that and if you want to add some 741 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 6: context on why you chose what you chose. If so, 742 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 6: the first this or that is top or bottom, and why. 743 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: We're talking clothing here, I mean you take it well, okay, okay, 744 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: well we are Okay, there's a sex podcast. I'm going 745 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: to say bottom. And the context is I think a 746 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 2: lot of the listeners will relate because these are all 747 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: really independent, strong women. Is that sometimes when you are 748 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: such a strong woman who's like taking over the world 749 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: and doing all these things and managing and doing this 750 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: at work and this and that, when it comes to 751 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: your intimate life, you kind of don't want to be 752 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: at the top again and like magic, sometimes you want 753 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: to be leading. I want to get into your family 754 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: and allow and you know submit. I know we hate 755 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 2: that word, but a little bit of that in some spaces, 756 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: especially in intimacy. I would say that's where I would 757 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: say bottom otherwise, all right, so our next one fans 758 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 2: are slow fast. That's for life. 759 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 8: You know. 760 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 2: My friends, My friends tell me all the time when 761 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 2: I when I send them voice notes, they're like, if 762 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: I try listening to you at double speed, like we 763 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: often deal with voice notes, you're such a chipmunk. It's 764 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: so it's so crazy to listen to because you already 765 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: speak so fast and you're always like in a rush 766 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 2: that it's yeah, that's absolutely. 767 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 6: All right in our final this or that is sweet 768 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 6: or savory sweet. 769 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a sweet tooth. I have a 770 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: sweet mouth. It's terrible. 771 00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 7: I know. 772 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 2: That's why I don't. Right there, it's I could have dessert. 773 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: I could. I could. Yeah, I could live without any 774 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: savor and just have sweets all day and not being 775 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 2: We have a word for he for it here in Spanish, 776 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: which is when something is too sweet and you feel 777 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: like you're almost like sick, like of having so many 778 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: sweet stuff. When when something is like that, we say 779 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: it's bags. And that's when something is overly sweet and 780 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: a lot of say a lot of people will say, 781 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: oh this is missed on right, it's it's making me 782 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: feel too sweet? Almost and I don't have that. 783 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: I don't. 784 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't have that condition I can yet, 785 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: but I love it. 786 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 6: Well, well, thank you so much for playing along. For 787 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 6: the black just said, no, we want to jump back 788 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 6: into the juicy conversation with you, and there's so I'm 789 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 6: just thinking of, you know, different directions that we can 790 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 6: go from. It covered a lot of the things that 791 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 6: we wanted to cover here, so I I just kind 792 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 6: of want to just wing it a little bit, and 793 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 6: I want to go back to when I was doing 794 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 6: the exercises. I will say, Bill, I didn't get to 795 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 6: I think we were talking about twisting and those movements. 796 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 6: I did like sort of the beginner, right, So I 797 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,959 Speaker 6: was doing the kebles, doing the speed like the speed 798 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 6: up contractions, and it reminded me of a couple of things. 799 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 6: One if something about that journey reminded me of like 800 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 6: my experience with pregnancy, like just how I was very 801 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 6: in tune with my body and just really focused when 802 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 6: I was giving birth as well, I had a homework, 803 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 6: so just thinking about that experience. And then the second 804 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 6: thing it reminded me of is meditation and manifestation. So 805 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you where do you see visualization 806 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 6: and meditation fitting into this journey of pompar. 807 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: I love that, and I think that's why a lot 808 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 2: of people that's what we have the course, there's so 809 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: many and it's the visual as that really helps a 810 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: lot of people. And that's kind of how it started 811 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: for me when I when I before the program, before 812 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: the book, and I was coaching women in one on 813 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: one on this, I would explain the moves, but then 814 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: when I would bring like images and I would just 815 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: draw images for them, they would understand things so much 816 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: more clearly when they could visualize what was what was 817 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: supposedly happened, because obviously, you know, vaginas don't look exactly 818 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: like this, they're not like yeallow, they're not. It's not that, 819 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: it's it's the ideas that you can visualize what it 820 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: feels like to to to have a vagina and to 821 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: do the muscles and to do the exercises right. So 822 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: I feel like it's it's so important to have that. 823 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: And another aspect that we talk a lot about is 824 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: you know, mind muscle connection. How mind muscle connection in 825 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 2: other types of exercises shows to have a greater effect 826 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 2: on muscle building right when we're now, when we're doing 827 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 2: our squads and and you're like, okay, really think about 828 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 2: your clues, really think that you're engaging your glues. It 829 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: triggers more hypertrophy, and you can actually grow more muscle 830 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 2: when you're having this mind muscle connection, right, And that's 831 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: been research. So that's a big aspect of hors practice. 832 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: The data side of this in our practice is that 833 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 2: when you're downside or upside really, but when you're thinking about, 834 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, having your partner inside of you, or showing 835 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: him the skills tonight or showing her these skills tonight, 836 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: it can it can really turn you on as you're 837 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: trying to exercise and you're trying to be focusing. So 838 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: what a lot of our women say is like, I 839 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 2: have to stop mid practice and I have to like 840 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: take a cold shower or or have a little playtime, 841 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: because yes, it gets a little and okay, okay, okay, okay, 842 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 2: oh no, no, very common experience, very very common experience. 843 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 2: And that's that's one of the most satisfying things for 844 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 2: me to to listen to, especially when women come to 845 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: us because of lack of libido, because they're not having 846 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 2: the sex drives that they used to have when they 847 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: were a little bit younger. And that's something that I 848 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 2: love to hear when they're like, well, I feel like 849 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 2: I feel like what I was feeling when I was 850 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: in my twenties and now, I mean my sixties, right now, 851 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: what's going on? I'm like, that's wonderful. I love that. 852 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: And the research on public floor training US show to 853 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 2: increase libido in women, but we don't curely understand why. 854 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: So we know that there's a physiological component to it, 855 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: because you are becoming more effective at pumping blood to 856 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: that genital region, and that's great and that makes your 857 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: rouse faster. But I believe there's also a psychological factor, 858 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 2: which is you're promped to be thinking about sex multiple 859 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: times a week when you're training at some times, so 860 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 2: it's natural that if you're thinking about sex and you're 861 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 2: doing these moves, then when you're having sex and you're 862 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: doing these moves and you're getting aroused, it creates this 863 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 2: kind of loop that then happens constantly and constantly constantly, 864 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 2: and your mind becomes more effective and thinking those things. 865 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 2: So I think you're just optimizing your mind to be 866 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 2: aroused a lot more often. Yes, love that, thank you? 867 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 7: Yes, Yes, hypsimizing your mind to be aroused more often. Okay, 868 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 7: I really like I love that. 869 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: I love like neuroscience and the neural plasticity and all 870 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: of the stuff I find fascinating. I tell you, I'm 871 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: a message that stuff is sad. We're yeah, we're here 872 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: for oh my god. Yes. And so. 873 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 7: When you think about the work that you're doing right, like, 874 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 7: and this is amazing work and like and I love 875 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 7: what you said about how the science behind it is 876 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 7: helping more women get become more connected with themselves and 877 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 7: with pleasure and increasing libido. What are some other surprising 878 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 7: things that you have learned through this process. 879 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 2: It's it's it's truly fascinating. So the first thing that 880 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: I did, something that I was completely oblivious towards, was 881 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: that when we when we orgasm, just naturally, let's forget 882 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: about umbar and public floor training. When you're having sex 883 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 2: and you have an orgasm, your public FOD contracts involuntarily. 884 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: You experienced those contractions. You're not trying to Your muscles 885 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: are contracting completely involved. Charlie, It's really interesting now when 886 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 2: you start training these muscles to be stronger through contoire, 887 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 2: through keigles, through any sort of public floor training, those 888 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 2: orgasm contractions become stronger as well, and therefore your orgasms 889 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 2: become stronger. So you're basically muscle building for orgasms. So 890 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 2: to me, that's been that's very wild, Like you're there's 891 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 2: a training that you can do so your orgasms are stronger. 892 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: That's and and it's all and it's all part of 893 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 2: your body. And the other thing that I find fascinating 894 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 2: is how I think I touched on as before, how 895 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 2: every woman has made this practice their own. We had 896 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 2: some women who you know that there are some women 897 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 2: who are one extreme a woman who was abused and 898 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: she has a really really she had a really, really 899 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 2: terrible relationship with sex. She stopped having sex for many 900 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: years after this, and the whole idea of sex was 901 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: really was was very painful for her. So when she 902 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: approached me, we're like, okay, let's work together and see 903 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 2: what we can do here. And when she started training 904 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: and she started just actually touching herself whilst during these moves, 905 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: which we have a whole lesson on, is she started 906 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: really enjoying it and she started finding herself sexually again. 907 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 2: And then when she eventually had sex again, she found 908 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: sort of a different role for herself, a top role. 909 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 2: Now she would have picked top in that in that 910 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 2: previous answer, because now she has found power through sex. 911 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: Whereas before she had been a victim in sexual or 912 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: what she believed was a victim of sex, now she 913 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 2: was she was the she was the person taking control, 914 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: and this kind of training helped her to take controls. 915 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 2: Whereas for other women, we then have a lot of 916 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 2: women who are you know, CEOs, and they're they're running 917 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: businesses and they're they're they're they're really they feel like 918 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: they're in their masculine energy along the time, and that's 919 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 2: a little bit more my case. Then has allowed them 920 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 2: to kind of like be in this sort of like 921 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: giving role to their men, and it's like and seeing 922 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: their expressions and and and feeling really wanted and ceiling 923 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: really steminine. So it's like, okay, so you can feel 924 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 2: really powerful and like you're really taking control, but you 925 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: can also feel almost submissive and like you're allowing and 926 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 2: you're in you're giving to someone. So it's like, okay, 927 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: So you have these complete pull opposite experiences with the 928 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 2: same training and then and then you have women who 929 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 2: just use it. So like women with extreme extreme muscle control, 930 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: they use one exercise called locking to really trap to 931 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: trup basically a penis inside of them and not allow 932 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: men to let go. And they can control when they're 933 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: partner orgasms, so they can delay his orgasm and they 934 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 2: can prevent his orgasm. So some people were into edging 935 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Oh, they're really liking this, so 936 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, there are so many different aspects to 937 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,720 Speaker 2: this that women just took it that. That's my favorite 938 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 2: thing about this, Like so many women have taken this 939 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 2: as their own. It fits so many different lifestyles, and 940 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 2: I think that's my favorite thing, whether you're just masturbating 941 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: sola or preventing your partner from more and you having 942 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 2: complete control organs. But it's so crazy. That's the stuff 943 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: that really fascinated me. I didn't know what it could 944 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 2: be for me, and the way that I started was 945 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 2: very much the way that it was historically done, you know, 946 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 2: to police men. In my case, it definitely was that. 947 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh my god, I'm having 948 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 2: the best time of my life and I'm enjoying penetration 949 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: much more like that's a big thing for a lot 950 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 2: of women. A lot of women don't enjoy penetration that much. 951 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: Some women have never had an organism through penetration, and 952 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 2: now it's become their favorite thing because you're you're learning 953 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 2: how to make your vaginal canal much more sensitive and 954 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: much more pleasurable, so that starts becoming their favorite things. 955 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 2: A lot of women tell me about the positions that 956 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 2: they used to not enjoy at all because there wasn't 957 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 2: any cultural stimulation, but now because they enjoy just penetration, 958 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 2: they're like, Yep, this is it. This is my new position. 959 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,959 Speaker 2: I love this. Now It's like okay, wow, so there's 960 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 2: something to this. And that's that's the big thing about 961 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: this that I don't I wish we were making more of, 962 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: like we have found something that's already research back because 963 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm not the person who's came up with with with 964 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: with pelic for training. So I'm like, okay, we found this. 965 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,959 Speaker 2: All I did was create a program with different moves 966 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 2: and and and and different combinations of muscles. But if 967 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: we already have the signs on our side, why are 968 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 2: we not talking about this? Women't have all all the 969 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: tools inside of them, and instead we're selling like thousands 970 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 2: of dollars worth of vaginal surgeries and and and tells 971 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: and this. It's like, okay, maybe, but how about we 972 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: start with the tools that you already have. Yes, yes, 973 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: that's a that's. 974 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 7: Another quotable, right, Okay, start with the tools you already have. 975 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 6: Your own body of tools are already within you. 976 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: So much. Yeah, we have so much. It's great, it's insane. Yeah, 977 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 2: well more often you guys, my self is Stingiu Suthero. 978 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 6: Mission covers so seriously, and this is like extremely genuine 979 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 6: and authentic, Like I am so happy, we are so 980 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 6: happy that we found this course, your book, the content, 981 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 6: this conversation has been so incredible and I can't wait 982 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 6: to re visit the content. I think you hear it 983 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 6: one time and it's kind of the surface level and 984 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 6: then you dig in deeper and you continue to learn 985 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 6: more and you can test more of these different these 986 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 6: strategies out. So we just want to thank you so much. 987 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 6: And if you can just tell our listeners how they 988 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 6: can support you, Where can they find you online, where 989 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 6: can they come up they have questions, anything else that 990 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 6: you want to share with the listeners. We love to you. 991 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's so lovely. Yeah. If you go 992 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: to goddess dot com, that's Goddess with an H after 993 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: the oh, you will find the link to the book, 994 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 2: which is when I'm the link to the course. I 995 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: believe we have a discount cad with you guys, if 996 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: you if you're typing her space, you'll have a twenty 997 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 2: five percent disco on the on the course and that 998 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: and I post blogs articles every single week on this 999 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 2: because I I but it's that those articles are very 1000 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: research heavy, just because I am a dog. So I 1001 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: really want, like my goal for this is to really 1002 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 2: run a big research and have signs on our side 1003 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 2: to be like, guys, let's start, let's start working out 1004 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 2: our vaginas, like let's have this one. Let's let's teach 1005 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: women all over the world how they can enjoy sex 1006 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 2: more because we don't need to spend that much money 1007 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: to just we can just drain it and everything we 1008 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: need and everything we need. And that's when I want 1009 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 2: everyone to know, you have so much more power than 1010 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: you think already inside of you, already biologically inside of you. 1011 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 2: And that's if that's not divine, foremen, I don't know 1012 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: what what is? That's just what? Yeah? Period, that's it. Yeah. 1013 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 7: Well, thank you Bell so much for joining us, and 1014 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 7: I lady, as you are listening, hit rewind and get 1015 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 7: that website address and take advantage of that twenty five 1016 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 7: percent of all discount so that you can become a 1017 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 7: goddess as well. 1018 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill, you guys, Thank you guys for having me. 1019 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: This has been so lovely. 1020 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today. 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