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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: That's right, DMFB. Everybody, welcome inside. We're live in LA

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Speaker 3: and New York today. It's Friday, March fourteens. Jamie Artle

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Speaker 3: as always, Peter Shrek or Kyle Bryant. What's happening in

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Speaker 3: New York? We got fullback Jason Cabinda at the table again.

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Speaker 3: Still hasn't blinked since we did the show yesterday. You

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Speaker 3: know him, you love him. And defensive lineman recently retired

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Speaker 3: Isaac Rochelle at the table today.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Good We're so glad you got your notebook. You are

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Speaker 3: all ready to rock and roll. You had some takes

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Speaker 3: yesterday that you couldn't even keep within yourself in the

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Speaker 3: commercial break, so we opened the topics up today. Guys

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Speaker 3: New York, are you ready for the final Jason Cabinda,

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Speaker 3: Isaac Rochelle experience today?

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Speaker 4: Peter, how are you doing these days?

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Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: And we got a little drama overnight and it came

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Speaker 5: in the farm of social media.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the Dallas some action.

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Speaker 4: Yes, finally, some action, not the kind we thought it

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Speaker 4: was going to be.

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Speaker 3: A free agency DeMarcus Lawrence recently departed from the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Spent his first eleven seasons in the league playing for

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Speaker 3: the America's team, the organization in Dallas, So he is

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Speaker 3: now a member of the Seahawks after signing a three

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Speaker 3: year deal this week. Lawrence then telling yesterday the at

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Speaker 3: people the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dallas is my home. I made my home there.

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Speaker 2: You know, my family lives there. You know I'm forever

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Speaker 2: going to be there. But I know for sure I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to win a Super Bowl there. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that guy.

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Speaker 3: Was like, I'm not sure what to do with that.

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Speaker 3: I was definitely not gonna win a super Bowl there,

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Speaker 3: says DeMarcus Lawrence. Well, Michael Parsons took issue with this

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Speaker 3: because he claims what rejection an envy looks like this?

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Speaker 3: Some clown clown emoji. Okay, So then the two exchanged

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Speaker 3: a couple of exes back and forth, and Marcus Lawrence

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Speaker 3: capped it with this, calling me a clown won't change

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Speaker 3: the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you've

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Speaker 3: spent less time tweeting and more time winning.

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Speaker 4: I would not have left.

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Speaker 3: Devil purple face emoji. Everyone's angry, Peter, Everyone's feeling things,

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Speaker 3: whether you're in Dallas or not.

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Speaker 4: Let's dig into this situation.

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Speaker 3: Peter, set the table and then just your your thoughts

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Speaker 3: behind this interaction.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, there's nothing quite like on the way out,

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Speaker 2: That's what DeMarcus Lawrence did.

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Speaker 5: He's like, it's been eleven years here, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: raise a family, I'm going to make this my home.

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Speaker 5: But on the way out, throw that out there that

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Speaker 5: if this unmasks some of the stuff that was boiling

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Speaker 2: Couple of years.

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Speaker 5: You know, Mike McCarthy had the weirdest situation ever where

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Speaker 5: and it's it's beyond belief that he was at the

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Speaker 2: We're talking about how he's working with.

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Speaker 5: Quinn as a quarterbacks coach, Like that's what he's doing

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Speaker 2: And you look back at Doubt. They're quiet and free agency.

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Speaker 5: They haven't taken care of Parsons, and you know, Dak

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Speaker 5: goes to the Bahamas and gets a fly Eagles fly chain.

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Speaker 5: For the first time since I've been on this show

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Speaker 5: in eight years, it's starting to feel like the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: Only a little bit of like a.

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Speaker 5: right now. And that has to affect Jerry Jones. That

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Speaker 2: Hah or passively aggressive? What does that mean? We don't know,

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Speaker 5: This former player on the way out who was a

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Speaker 2: And well established cowboy throwing a carpet bomb on the

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons takes the shrapnel of this, and he's going

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Speaker 2: You're like that that's kind of what my thoughts were.

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Speaker 5: But I haven't been able to say it because I'm

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Speaker 6: I hear you, Peter, and I think the reason you

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Speaker 6: and it is because I could say the Cowboys haven't

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Anybody with a podcast can say that. An

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Speaker 6: insider kids say that. It's that it comes from a

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Speaker 6: Lawrence is a very important cowboy, a landmark cowboy of

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Speaker 6: and has worn a Cowboys helmet in several Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 2: And his reaction is not thanks for the memories.

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Speaker 6: I'll always it's they're never going to win a super

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Speaker 6: That's not me saying it. We don't get this from

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Speaker 6: in effect, the new coach is underwhelming, free agency is underwhelming,

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Speaker 6: Michah Parsons is maybe underwhelming and has certainly mismanaged.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it.

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Speaker 6: DeMarcus Lawrence is saying that the Eagles over the last

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Speaker 6: playoff wins. DeMarcus Lawrence is saying the Commanders were just

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Speaker 2: He's saying, you're not going to win it.

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Speaker 6: And better believe anyone who might have a perception that

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Speaker 6: Michaeh Parsons does too much media, which I do not.

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Speaker 6: He's saying, you go tweet and pod and do all

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Speaker 6: same huddle as him. All of that is saying it.

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Speaker 6: We don't see these from the Cowboys. We see Jerry

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Speaker 6: surrounded by fifty people, say and his usual stuff. We

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Speaker 6: say players mostly staying in line. DeMarcus Lawrence just said,

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Speaker 6: I know everything about that organization.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. I got a PhD. In twenty first.

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Speaker 6: Century Dallas Cowboys, and they're never winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: It's not me saying that, Peter saying that, You're saying

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Speaker 2: A lot more. It makes a lot more memorable.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Kyle, I think you describe everything perfectly. It's just

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Speaker 7: very underwhelming what this offseason has been for.

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: You know, hon to see one player tweet you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, for this Brian Schottenheimer hires, just there's no

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Speaker 2: There's a lack of moves.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just Micah Parsons doesn't have a contract yet.

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Speaker 2: There's no offseason moves and.

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Speaker 7: A guy like DeMarcus Lawrence, who spent eleven years on

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Speaker 7: come out and say that and truly feel like, hey,

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Speaker 7: this team is never going to win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It very much so reminds me of.

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Speaker 7: The Damian Lillard story arc of giving his absolute awe

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Speaker 7: to the Portland Trailblazers and finally has been like, you

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Speaker 7: know what, enough is enough. I Am not going to

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Speaker 7: win here. I gave it absolutely everything I got. I'm done.

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Speaker 7: I still call this place my home. I love this place,

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Speaker 7: but I'm done and I'm over it. And that's what

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Speaker 7: DeMarcus did.

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Speaker 4: Dame, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Talk this morning? Isaac?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is like, is more good morning basketball? I

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Speaker 9: like a little touch of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes here's my thing with it. I know this.

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Speaker 9: Have you ever had a disagreement with your significant other

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Speaker 9: and you get around the homies and you tell a

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Speaker 9: totally different story to them than actually happen.

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Speaker 2: I think Peter had it right on the head.

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Speaker 9: I think there's some drama maybe in this locker room

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Speaker 9: that is just spilling over some frustrations. I don't think

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Speaker 9: those two guys are getting into a tweeting match unless

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Speaker 9: there was frustration that was pre existing. Also, I don't

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Speaker 9: know what DeMarcus Lawrence is talking about. When it comes

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Speaker 9: to Super Bowls. If I'm comparing these two teams, Seahawks

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Speaker 9: every time. I mean, Dak Prescott has had great seasons.

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Speaker 9: You've seen CD Lamb play very well. Well, I don't

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Speaker 9: really love this. I'm leaving to go win a Super

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Speaker 3: It'd be different if he was like standing in the

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Speaker 3: like you're saying, in terms of teams that might be

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Speaker 3: closer to the finish line, holding a Lombardi having a parade,

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Speaker 3: you would take the Cowboys right now.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of people in the NFL, and

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Speaker 9: we see a lot of teams in the NFL who.

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Speaker 2: Need a quarterback.

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Speaker 9: If Dak was available and they knew he was rolling

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Speaker 9: on all cylinders, they're taking him.

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Speaker 2: It's no question. And you're right, yeah, he goes to

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Speaker 2: the Egos.

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Speaker 9: He goes to a team that we know is a

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Speaker 9: little bit more ready to go than the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Are.

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Speaker 9: Sure that argument makes sense, but this feels like drama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, voluntary.

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Speaker 5: I find it fascinating that Michael Parsons is what I

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Speaker 5: would think, you know, the best young defender under the

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Speaker 5: age of thirty. Whatever you want to do and say

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Speaker 5: he said calling me a clown won't change the fact

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Speaker 5: that maybe he spent less time tweeting and.

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Speaker 2: More time winning. I wouldn't have left.

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Speaker 5: This tells me that DeMarcus Lawrence walked off on his

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Speaker 5: been a situation that I have just had enough of.

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Speaker 5: And DeMarcus Lawrence is going to the Seahawks, where the

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Speaker 5: defensive line coach of the Cowboys for many years is

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Speaker 2: A Super Bowl, today is your day to speak.

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Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence he knows what the Cowboys haven't been able

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Speaker 3: And the coach actually said, and I quote, look, this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jamie, I'm not going to bottom line players doing

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Speaker 6: I actually when I saw Rich Rod's quote, I laughed

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Speaker 5: He does not have a podcast. He does not tweet

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Speaker 4: It's a very important part of this here, all right.

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Speaker 3: Braxonberry us new to Houston, but Alex Earl not new

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Speaker 6: Good looking at young people there, and we look at

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Speaker 6: The great ravelries right now in football? Ben Johnson's in place,

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Speaker 3: It's one of the most thrilling moments in an NFL game.

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Speaker 4: The score is just awkward.

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Speaker 3: go like this, and we're just like KOs They're going

438
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Speaker 3: for two and we might have something happen at the

439
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Speaker 3: goal line.

440
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Speaker 4: Here, it's GMFB. We're going to play go for two.

441
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Speaker 3: Couple of topics on deck, and we're going to start

442
00:17:50,948 --> 00:17:53,428
Speaker 3: with the Chicago Bears. Their GM Ryan Poles and their

443
00:17:53,468 --> 00:17:55,868
Speaker 3: new head coach Ben Johnson spoke to the media yesterday

444
00:17:55,868 --> 00:17:58,988
Speaker 3: and they talked about players wanting to sign with Chicago

445
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Speaker 3: this offseason because of the promise of their quarterback.

446
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, one was excited about where Caleb can go.

447
00:18:06,948 --> 00:18:08,468
Speaker 8: We all know that there's a lot of growth that

448
00:18:08,468 --> 00:18:10,148
Speaker 8: has to happen and get him to where he needs

449
00:18:10,228 --> 00:18:13,268
Speaker 8: to be. But that excitement in terms of what he

450
00:18:13,348 --> 00:18:18,068
Speaker 8: can be obviously, you know, helps get other coaches and

451
00:18:19,068 --> 00:18:21,068
Speaker 8: players excited to be here and work with him and

452
00:18:21,108 --> 00:18:22,988
Speaker 8: help get him to where he needs to be.

453
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Speaker 2: Then do you see that too? Yeah?

454
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Speaker 11: Absolutely. I think he put a lot of good stuff

455
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Speaker 11: on tape last year, and I think everyone recognizes that

456
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Speaker 11: as they see the crossover tape and they're watching that

457
00:18:33,788 --> 00:18:36,028
Speaker 11: each week. So listen, we got a lot of really

458
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Speaker 11: strong building blocks to get this thing going in the

459
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Speaker 11: right direction.

460
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Speaker 3: This is a great string of connection between last year

461
00:18:42,348 --> 00:18:44,148
Speaker 3: and this upcoming season. We were all up in the

462
00:18:44,148 --> 00:18:46,948
Speaker 3: commander's business because of Jayden Daniels the Commander's made a

463
00:18:47,068 --> 00:18:50,068
Speaker 3: massive leap rekindling one of the best rivalries in the

464
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Speaker 3: NFC East, Commander's Eagles. So it feels like we might

465
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Speaker 3: have a similar situation happening here with Chicago and Detroit.

466
00:18:56,148 --> 00:18:58,988
Speaker 3: Feels like there's juice back with the Bears and the Lions.

467
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Speaker 4: Jason, would you agree with.

468
00:19:00,628 --> 00:19:04,548
Speaker 3: This that we have a reinvigorated Chicago Detroit rivalry.

469
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Speaker 7: I do definitely think that in years to come, this

470
00:19:07,788 --> 00:19:09,588
Speaker 7: is going to be quite the rivalry show down. It

471
00:19:09,628 --> 00:19:12,108
Speaker 7: has all the narratives in the making for it to

472
00:19:12,148 --> 00:19:14,908
Speaker 7: be that. I know the media is gonna absolutely run

473
00:19:14,948 --> 00:19:17,828
Speaker 7: with it every single time this matchup comes up. Because

474
00:19:17,828 --> 00:19:21,028
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson left the Detroit Lions on a sour note

475
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Speaker 7: and goes right to the NFC North Division opponent in

476
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Speaker 7: the Chicago Bears. What I'll say is, if there's one

477
00:19:27,948 --> 00:19:30,948
Speaker 7: guy who can go out there and unlock Caleb Williams,

478
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Speaker 7: it is Ben Johnson.

479
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Speaker 2: I've seen it with my own eyes, the.

480
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Speaker 7: Way Ben Johnson very personally works with his quarterbacks, the

481
00:19:37,108 --> 00:19:39,028
Speaker 7: way he worked with Jared Goff, and he is the

482
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Speaker 7: type of coach.

483
00:19:39,988 --> 00:19:41,308
Speaker 2: He's not a cookie cutter guy.

484
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Speaker 7: He's going to adjust He's going to do what he

485
00:19:43,388 --> 00:19:45,468
Speaker 7: feels is in the quarterback's best interest.

486
00:19:45,548 --> 00:19:46,788
Speaker 2: He's truly going to listen.

487
00:19:46,948 --> 00:19:49,188
Speaker 7: He's going to see what Caleb likes, what he doesn't like,

488
00:19:49,308 --> 00:19:50,988
Speaker 7: the type of throws he does like, to make what

489
00:19:51,068 --> 00:19:52,788
Speaker 7: he doesn't. And there aren't a lot of coaches in

490
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Speaker 7: the league that do that. Most coaches, they have their system,

491
00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:57,668
Speaker 7: they have what they do, and if the quarterback likes

492
00:19:57,668 --> 00:19:59,628
Speaker 7: it or not, they don't really care. It's what they're

493
00:19:59,668 --> 00:20:01,628
Speaker 7: asking is what you're going to do. Ben isn't like

494
00:20:01,668 --> 00:20:03,948
Speaker 7: that at all. And I think, like I said, he's

495
00:20:03,948 --> 00:20:06,268
Speaker 7: a great coach. He's a great communicator, he's a great

496
00:20:06,268 --> 00:20:09,188
Speaker 7: installer scheme, and he makes sure everything is fluid all

497
00:20:09,228 --> 00:20:11,068
Speaker 7: the way from the quarterback room to the receiver room

498
00:20:11,108 --> 00:20:13,068
Speaker 7: to the old line room. So I think that this

499
00:20:13,148 --> 00:20:15,228
Speaker 7: has the makings of being a rivalry.

500
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Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson is Ben Johnson. He's a offensive genius.

501
00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:21,028
Speaker 5: I think there needs to be some context too the question,

502
00:20:21,068 --> 00:20:23,948
Speaker 5: because of course it's a division rivals like is it, Yes,

503
00:20:24,068 --> 00:20:26,268
Speaker 5: But for the last several years, and you could say

504
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:28,948
Speaker 5: for the last several decades, it was like Vikings Packers,

505
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,748
Speaker 5: Vikings Packers, Vikings Packers, and the Bears and the Lions

506
00:20:31,748 --> 00:20:33,588
Speaker 5: were had their years here and there in the last

507
00:20:33,588 --> 00:20:35,708
Speaker 5: two decades, but for the most part it was those teams.

508
00:20:36,028 --> 00:20:38,388
Speaker 5: Question is are these the two teams in the NFC

509
00:20:38,428 --> 00:20:40,628
Speaker 5: North now? And I look at this rivalry and of

510
00:20:40,628 --> 00:20:41,948
Speaker 5: course it's got this rich tradition.

511
00:20:42,828 --> 00:20:44,988
Speaker 2: Last year's games were really good too between them.

512
00:20:45,028 --> 00:20:48,148
Speaker 5: Remember the Thanksgiving Day game with a colossal era it

513
00:20:48,188 --> 00:20:51,308
Speaker 5: ended up costing Mattyberfluss's job ultimately. And then the next

514
00:20:51,308 --> 00:20:53,268
Speaker 5: time they played, of course it was an outdoors game

515
00:20:53,308 --> 00:20:54,748
Speaker 5: and it was good in the Lions and that was

516
00:20:54,788 --> 00:20:57,508
Speaker 5: when you got the fake handoff with Gibbs and Golf

517
00:20:57,548 --> 00:20:59,828
Speaker 5: and Gibbs goes down and it's all that at the thirty.

518
00:20:59,988 --> 00:21:02,388
Speaker 5: So like the rivalry has been there the Jews is there?

519
00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:04,908
Speaker 5: The real question here to me, are the the top

520
00:21:04,948 --> 00:21:07,308
Speaker 5: two teams going into next season? Now that we've got

521
00:21:07,348 --> 00:21:10,828
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold playing elsewhere and the Packers we know they

522
00:21:10,868 --> 00:21:12,828
Speaker 5: came up short when it mattered in the wildcar round

523
00:21:12,828 --> 00:21:15,068
Speaker 5: against the against the Eagles. Are they ascending or are

524
00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:18,188
Speaker 5: they descending? These two teams they got juice right now?

525
00:21:18,228 --> 00:21:19,828
Speaker 2: Are they the top two teams the NFC North?

526
00:21:20,068 --> 00:21:22,068
Speaker 9: I don't think we need to overthink robberies. Like when

527
00:21:22,068 --> 00:21:23,868
Speaker 9: I think of robberies, I think back to when I

528
00:21:23,868 --> 00:21:25,908
Speaker 9: played at Notre Dame. One of the funnest games that

529
00:21:25,908 --> 00:21:28,908
Speaker 9: we played was Notre Dame versus Michigan. And the reason

530
00:21:28,908 --> 00:21:30,748
Speaker 9: that it was fun at the time that we played

531
00:21:30,788 --> 00:21:32,908
Speaker 9: is because our defensive coordinator was a Michigan guy.

532
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Speaker 2: It was hyped up and there was a lot of

533
00:21:34,748 --> 00:21:35,548
Speaker 2: touch points for us.

534
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Speaker 9: And that's what I think about when I think about

535
00:21:37,068 --> 00:21:39,868
Speaker 9: this game. You mentioned Ben Johnson. That's a touch point

536
00:21:39,948 --> 00:21:41,628
Speaker 9: like that adds to this game. The fact that he

537
00:21:41,708 --> 00:21:44,268
Speaker 9: came from Detroit, the fact that it matters for him,

538
00:21:44,428 --> 00:21:46,948
Speaker 9: and the fact that he's bringing a lot of that influence.

539
00:21:46,508 --> 00:21:48,148
Speaker 2: To the Bears. Huge deal.

540
00:21:48,428 --> 00:21:50,748
Speaker 9: Location these teams are not far from each other, like

541
00:21:50,828 --> 00:21:52,628
Speaker 9: that matters when it comes to a rivaly. You're gonna

542
00:21:52,628 --> 00:21:55,068
Speaker 9: have a lot of fan crossover people that are excited

543
00:21:55,068 --> 00:21:56,548
Speaker 9: about it. It's going to add to it even if

544
00:21:56,548 --> 00:21:58,948
Speaker 9: you're watching at home on TV. And then I think

545
00:21:58,948 --> 00:22:02,468
Speaker 9: about matchup. Lastly, this Bears team, which we just talked about,

546
00:22:02,668 --> 00:22:05,068
Speaker 9: is much improved. There is such a chance for this

547
00:22:05,148 --> 00:22:07,148
Speaker 9: team to come out and impress everybody.

548
00:22:07,388 --> 00:22:08,988
Speaker 2: And then even deeper than that.

549
00:22:09,068 --> 00:22:11,588
Speaker 9: When I think about the matchup O line D line,

550
00:22:11,868 --> 00:22:13,828
Speaker 9: think about these O line and D lines that we're

551
00:22:13,828 --> 00:22:16,108
Speaker 9: going to be watching playing like the trench match is

552
00:22:16,148 --> 00:22:18,308
Speaker 9: what makes this really really special.

553
00:22:18,548 --> 00:22:19,868
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch it.

554
00:22:20,188 --> 00:22:24,188
Speaker 9: And again, the excitement around this revamped Chicago Bears team

555
00:22:24,228 --> 00:22:25,988
Speaker 9: is what makes this really a rival.

556
00:22:26,148 --> 00:22:26,708
Speaker 2: It's special.

557
00:22:27,268 --> 00:22:29,108
Speaker 6: I think that's a really good point that you're making,

558
00:22:29,228 --> 00:22:31,668
Speaker 6: because I think the reason these games are going to

559
00:22:31,748 --> 00:22:34,348
Speaker 6: be good is because both teams are going to be

560
00:22:34,388 --> 00:22:37,028
Speaker 6: really physical, Like I think they're going to be nasty,

561
00:22:37,188 --> 00:22:41,268
Speaker 6: nasty like Raven Steelers era type games. I've said this

562
00:22:41,348 --> 00:22:44,068
Speaker 6: over and over since this whole last few weeks. Caleb

563
00:22:44,188 --> 00:22:46,588
Speaker 6: is great. The Bears in twenty twenty five are going

564
00:22:46,628 --> 00:22:49,748
Speaker 6: to run the ball. You don't trade for guards and

565
00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:52,508
Speaker 6: centers and land those type of players if you're just

566
00:22:52,548 --> 00:22:55,108
Speaker 6: gonna air it out. Look At what Ben did last

567
00:22:55,188 --> 00:22:57,348
Speaker 6: year with those two running backs in Detroit. They were

568
00:22:57,388 --> 00:23:00,148
Speaker 6: really a run team, and then Jared Goffers do his thing.

569
00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,908
Speaker 6: It's going to be a really physical run game. And

570
00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:04,388
Speaker 6: I still think they're going to add a big name

571
00:23:04,468 --> 00:23:05,428
Speaker 6: running back to the Bears.

572
00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:07,068
Speaker 2: The other thing I think is interesting I'm.

573
00:23:06,908 --> 00:23:09,068
Speaker 6: Looking at the bottom third of the screen is the

574
00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,348
Speaker 6: juice back and the Bears lines. There hasn't really been

575
00:23:12,388 --> 00:23:15,508
Speaker 6: a ton of juice over the years because both of

576
00:23:15,548 --> 00:23:18,148
Speaker 6: these teams have had long stretches where they're terrible. And

577
00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,908
Speaker 6: I'm talking about like going back to the nineties. This

578
00:23:20,988 --> 00:23:25,548
Speaker 6: is not Bear's Packers, It's not Vikings Packers, Bears Lions.

579
00:23:25,628 --> 00:23:28,548
Speaker 6: Both teams have suffered so much. It's never like here

580
00:23:28,588 --> 00:23:31,668
Speaker 6: we go eleven and four versus ten and five furthest

581
00:23:31,948 --> 00:23:34,508
Speaker 6: It's not like that very often, but I think it

582
00:23:34,548 --> 00:23:36,988
Speaker 6: will be now because of the playing style I just mentioned.

583
00:23:36,988 --> 00:23:39,028
Speaker 6: And then look, just the Ben Johnson thing is really

584
00:23:39,068 --> 00:23:42,068
Speaker 6: really big. The fact that your superstar coordinator goes in

585
00:23:42,148 --> 00:23:44,108
Speaker 6: division you know you're gonna play him twice a year,

586
00:23:44,308 --> 00:23:46,548
Speaker 6: and he goes against Dan Campbell. You know, Dan Campbell

587
00:23:46,588 --> 00:23:48,668
Speaker 6: had this when he wants the Broncos against Sean Payton,

588
00:23:48,868 --> 00:23:50,588
Speaker 6: the guy who is his guy, and went and he

589
00:23:50,668 --> 00:23:52,628
Speaker 6: destroyed him. I think a lot of the players and

590
00:23:52,668 --> 00:23:55,148
Speaker 6: the Lions like Ben Johnson. This isn't one of these

591
00:23:55,148 --> 00:23:57,548
Speaker 6: things that like screw him. But I also think when

592
00:23:57,588 --> 00:24:00,548
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson shows up to his opening day and openly

593
00:24:00,588 --> 00:24:04,348
Speaker 6: disrespects the Packers, which he did. Do you gotta go

594
00:24:04,428 --> 00:24:05,588
Speaker 6: to your old team and you're going to go back

595
00:24:05,588 --> 00:24:07,348
Speaker 6: to Detroit and you're going to welcome them to Soldier Field.

596
00:24:07,348 --> 00:24:08,908
Speaker 2: You got to show up. That's when you do the

597
00:24:08,908 --> 00:24:11,268
Speaker 2: trick plays, That's when you do the running game. I'll

598
00:24:11,268 --> 00:24:11,948
Speaker 2: put it this way.

599
00:24:12,628 --> 00:24:15,068
Speaker 6: Is this one of the biggest rivalries quote unquote that

600
00:24:15,108 --> 00:24:17,108
Speaker 6: I want to watch in twenty twenty five this season?

601
00:24:17,308 --> 00:24:20,388
Speaker 6: Hell yes, I think Bears and Lions isn't back. It's

602
00:24:20,428 --> 00:24:23,548
Speaker 6: almost showing up for the first time all across the board.

603
00:24:23,548 --> 00:24:24,628
Speaker 2: This is what I'm looking for.

604
00:24:24,748 --> 00:24:27,188
Speaker 3: The logos and the brands are familiar, but the rivalry

605
00:24:27,348 --> 00:24:28,308
Speaker 3: is unfamiliar to us.

606
00:24:28,348 --> 00:24:28,588
Speaker 4: Kyle.

607
00:24:28,628 --> 00:24:30,828
Speaker 3: It's a good point, and it's maybe the first version

608
00:24:30,828 --> 00:24:32,468
Speaker 3: of it that we're going to see in the NFC North.

609
00:24:32,628 --> 00:24:35,308
Speaker 3: All right, let's go on our second point, going for two.

610
00:24:35,428 --> 00:24:37,468
Speaker 3: Mac Jones has a new home in the Bay Area.

611
00:24:37,508 --> 00:24:40,228
Speaker 3: The former first round pick of the Patriots has agreed

612
00:24:40,268 --> 00:24:43,988
Speaker 3: to a two year, seven million dollar deal with San Francisco.

613
00:24:44,188 --> 00:24:46,468
Speaker 3: We enjoy the mac Jones experience, and we know what

614
00:24:46,508 --> 00:24:47,268
Speaker 3: he did with the Patriots.

615
00:24:47,308 --> 00:24:49,028
Speaker 4: He's been in Jacksonville last couple of seasons.

616
00:24:49,148 --> 00:24:51,468
Speaker 3: This leads us into a brock Party conversation, though, Peter,

617
00:24:51,748 --> 00:24:53,988
Speaker 3: how do we look at brock Party now when what

618
00:24:53,988 --> 00:24:56,628
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are trying to accomplish in making

619
00:24:56,708 --> 00:24:59,188
Speaker 3: him a new offer and a new deal this offseason,

620
00:24:59,228 --> 00:25:02,548
Speaker 3: when the forty nine ers have made a ton of transactions,

621
00:25:02,548 --> 00:25:03,948
Speaker 3: we don't know what direction they're going in.

622
00:25:04,068 --> 00:25:05,628
Speaker 4: Where can they stand right now with Party?

623
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we do know which direction. They're

624
00:25:07,788 --> 00:25:09,748
Speaker 2: cleaning up their books, they're doing a lot with it.

625
00:25:09,748 --> 00:25:11,308
Speaker 5: Seems like our countries do it in a lot of

626
00:25:11,348 --> 00:25:12,628
Speaker 5: ways where it's like we're looking.

627
00:25:12,428 --> 00:25:14,548
Speaker 2: Inside and we're saying, where's the fat.

628
00:25:14,348 --> 00:25:16,188
Speaker 5: Let's trim it whether you like it or not. And

629
00:25:16,188 --> 00:25:18,588
Speaker 5: I know a lot of Niners fans do not like it.

630
00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:20,068
Speaker 2: Get more of the country, Peter.

631
00:25:20,788 --> 00:25:22,788
Speaker 5: There's a lot of people who have thoughts on that,

632
00:25:22,828 --> 00:25:24,628
Speaker 5: but go to other networks for that stuff.

633
00:25:24,628 --> 00:25:26,868
Speaker 2: But it does feel a little bit like that where

634
00:25:26,908 --> 00:25:28,548
Speaker 2: it's hey, wait, wait, wait, wait a second.

635
00:25:28,468 --> 00:25:31,748
Speaker 5: We've got this, this giant debt. We have to take

636
00:25:31,788 --> 00:25:34,268
Speaker 5: care of this at some point. Let's address it. But

637
00:25:34,508 --> 00:25:36,068
Speaker 5: the elephant in the room is this is.

638
00:25:36,108 --> 00:25:39,308
Speaker 2: Rock Party's time to get paid. He's waited he's.

639
00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:41,388
Speaker 5: Been the one who's been steady and consistent.

640
00:25:40,948 --> 00:25:42,268
Speaker 2: While they've paid everybody else.

641
00:25:42,668 --> 00:25:46,308
Speaker 5: Why should he feel the pain of a Brandon I

642
00:25:46,388 --> 00:25:49,428
Speaker 5: you contract that maybe wasn't as advised as.

643
00:25:49,308 --> 00:25:50,908
Speaker 2: Others would imagine or deserve.

644
00:25:51,228 --> 00:25:53,428
Speaker 5: Why should he feel the pain of all these contract

645
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:56,908
Speaker 5: extensions that these guys have gotten, maybe at a number

646
00:25:57,068 --> 00:25:59,788
Speaker 5: that didn't really make sense on an open market if

647
00:25:59,788 --> 00:26:02,028
Speaker 5: you're not going for a super Bowl that year.

648
00:26:02,388 --> 00:26:04,468
Speaker 2: Party to me is maybe the I.

649
00:26:04,428 --> 00:26:06,668
Speaker 5: Guess wild card in the league outside of Aaron Rodgers

650
00:26:06,708 --> 00:26:08,348
Speaker 5: right now. And it's not whether it's gonna be the

651
00:26:08,388 --> 00:26:09,588
Speaker 5: quarterback of the forty nine ers.

652
00:26:09,668 --> 00:26:10,548
Speaker 2: I believe he will be.

653
00:26:10,868 --> 00:26:14,188
Speaker 5: It's did he just show up to the party and

654
00:26:14,228 --> 00:26:15,788
Speaker 5: there's no more cake left?

655
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Speaker 2: Like there was a long line at the ice cream

656
00:26:18,348 --> 00:26:20,388
Speaker 2: man and then you know he was twentieth in line.

657
00:26:20,388 --> 00:26:22,308
Speaker 5: It's finally his turn and the ice cream man shuts

658
00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:24,788
Speaker 5: the door. That could be the case, Like, I don't

659
00:26:24,828 --> 00:26:26,428
Speaker 5: think the Niners did all this so that they could

660
00:26:26,428 --> 00:26:28,028
Speaker 5: pay Rock Party sixty million dollars?

661
00:26:28,108 --> 00:26:30,828
Speaker 6: No, I don't wait, Can I actually like the new

662
00:26:30,868 --> 00:26:33,788
Speaker 6: Party deal? Is this gonna be like a Joe Burrow contract?

663
00:26:33,868 --> 00:26:35,708
Speaker 6: Like one of those massive, massive, things.

664
00:26:35,908 --> 00:26:38,428
Speaker 5: I don't going right it is, and I think he

665
00:26:38,508 --> 00:26:40,428
Speaker 5: has done enough where he could be in the conversation

666
00:26:40,508 --> 00:26:42,308
Speaker 5: for that. But if you think they got rid of

667
00:26:42,348 --> 00:26:43,228
Speaker 5: all these guys so that.

668
00:26:43,188 --> 00:26:45,828
Speaker 2: They can reward Party, I don't see it that way.

669
00:26:45,828 --> 00:26:47,308
Speaker 2: That's how I think a lot of people think's gonna happen.

670
00:26:47,308 --> 00:26:48,228
Speaker 2: I don't see it that way.

671
00:26:48,268 --> 00:26:49,748
Speaker 5: And I think they're gonna take care of Party and

672
00:26:49,748 --> 00:26:52,308
Speaker 5: it'll be a sensible contract. And for him as mister

673
00:26:52,348 --> 00:26:55,428
Speaker 5: Irrelevant and his agent Kyle Strong and who are both like,

674
00:26:55,588 --> 00:26:58,268
Speaker 5: we are committed to getting this for the like for

675
00:26:58,348 --> 00:27:00,188
Speaker 5: his future and for the team's future. I don't think

676
00:27:00,228 --> 00:27:01,748
Speaker 5: Perty's a me first guy where he's like, I need

677
00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:04,788
Speaker 5: to be the highest paid. That said, I don't think

678
00:27:04,788 --> 00:27:07,628
Speaker 5: the Niners are looking to shell out sixty million dollars

679
00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:08,268
Speaker 5: for brock Perty.

680
00:27:08,268 --> 00:27:08,708
Speaker 2: I'm just not.

681
00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:11,668
Speaker 7: But here's my thing, Peter, why should it be a

682
00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:12,828
Speaker 7: sensible contract?

683
00:27:12,868 --> 00:27:14,748
Speaker 2: And like, this is the reality of the NFL.

684
00:27:14,828 --> 00:27:19,108
Speaker 7: I absolutely cannot stand because there is a class system

685
00:27:19,428 --> 00:27:23,188
Speaker 7: in the NFL. This guy, for the last four years

686
00:27:23,188 --> 00:27:24,108
Speaker 7: has taken him.

687
00:27:23,988 --> 00:27:26,748
Speaker 2: To two NFC championships and a Super Bowl.

688
00:27:27,108 --> 00:27:29,868
Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence was a first round pick where has Trevor

689
00:27:29,908 --> 00:27:32,508
Speaker 7: Lawrence gone Trevor Lawrence when it was time for him

690
00:27:32,508 --> 00:27:35,548
Speaker 7: to get paid, he got top quarterback money period, end

691
00:27:35,548 --> 00:27:37,708
Speaker 7: of story. And we're sitting here like, ah, you know,

692
00:27:38,108 --> 00:27:40,548
Speaker 7: we're wondering what Brock's gonna get. Like this is mister

693
00:27:40,628 --> 00:27:43,588
Speaker 7: irrelevant and he's been as relevant as can possibly be

694
00:27:43,948 --> 00:27:47,028
Speaker 7: in the forty nine ers organization. Pay that man, and

695
00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:49,108
Speaker 7: it should be the type of number that is just

696
00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:52,428
Speaker 7: directly under the tier of the Lamar Jackson's, the Patrick

697
00:27:52,468 --> 00:27:54,108
Speaker 7: Mahomes and the Josh Allens of the league.

698
00:27:54,108 --> 00:27:56,988
Speaker 2: Because he has shown results, he has been.

699
00:27:56,868 --> 00:27:59,428
Speaker 7: Productive, he has taken the forty nine Ers of places

700
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,828
Speaker 7: that they haven't been in recent years. That is the

701
00:28:01,868 --> 00:28:04,148
Speaker 7: reality of the situation, and that is out of the

702
00:28:04,708 --> 00:28:07,148
Speaker 7: I cannot stand because they'll try to box you in

703
00:28:07,348 --> 00:28:10,068
Speaker 7: as much as they possibly can, and when you outperform

704
00:28:10,108 --> 00:28:12,868
Speaker 7: what your draft status was, we sit here and we wonder, Ah,

705
00:28:13,028 --> 00:28:14,548
Speaker 7: should it be a team friendly deal?

706
00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,468
Speaker 2: We didn't want to that with Trevor Lawrence. I don't

707
00:28:16,508 --> 00:28:17,628
Speaker 2: like it. Pay the man.

708
00:28:18,228 --> 00:28:20,188
Speaker 9: I need to not get started on that point because

709
00:28:20,188 --> 00:28:22,228
Speaker 9: as a seventh rounder I could go for days because

710
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:26,348
Speaker 9: I am also frustrated, but this is two thoughts for me.

711
00:28:26,428 --> 00:28:28,788
Speaker 2: One, did he earn the right to get paid?

712
00:28:28,788 --> 00:28:31,588
Speaker 9: And does he fit in the system in the future system, Yes,

713
00:28:31,748 --> 00:28:34,908
Speaker 9: Shanahan and with a great offensive line and run game

714
00:28:34,948 --> 00:28:38,468
Speaker 9: and Christian McCaffrey, Purty can continue to be successful. Defenses

715
00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,268
Speaker 9: have to game plan for a lot and it gives

716
00:28:40,308 --> 00:28:41,908
Speaker 9: him a great opportunity to do his thing.

717
00:28:42,068 --> 00:28:42,908
Speaker 2: Has he earned the right?

718
00:28:43,308 --> 00:28:46,508
Speaker 9: Jason? You said it great. There's nothing else to say.

719
00:28:46,708 --> 00:28:50,028
Speaker 9: Two NFC Championship appearances, a Super Bowl? Do you think

720
00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:52,188
Speaker 9: the Giants would pay a lot of money for Perdy

721
00:28:52,228 --> 00:28:53,788
Speaker 9: to go there. There's a lot of teams in the

722
00:28:53,908 --> 00:28:57,188
Speaker 9: NFL that would do anything for Perty. He's definitely earned

723
00:28:57,188 --> 00:28:57,988
Speaker 9: the right to get paid.

724
00:28:58,588 --> 00:29:01,428
Speaker 6: I was triggered to by your phrase, Peter, of sensible

725
00:29:01,468 --> 00:29:03,228
Speaker 6: contract because I just I feel that feels like a

726
00:29:03,268 --> 00:29:05,708
Speaker 6: myth to me about them, and I would like to

727
00:29:05,748 --> 00:29:07,788
Speaker 6: see them. But then you go to the agents and

728
00:29:07,828 --> 00:29:10,228
Speaker 6: it's just look at the comps. This guy was in

729
00:29:10,268 --> 00:29:13,108
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, he played well, sensible, No, like give

730
00:29:13,188 --> 00:29:17,268
Speaker 6: us everything, but listen the case against Purty and like

731
00:29:17,308 --> 00:29:19,468
Speaker 6: I hear you guys about the results to the results.

732
00:29:19,988 --> 00:29:21,908
Speaker 6: If you wanted to poke a hole in it, it's

733
00:29:21,948 --> 00:29:25,028
Speaker 6: a wins above replacement factor. It is the idea that

734
00:29:25,348 --> 00:29:27,868
Speaker 6: he has done great things in one Shanahan got to

735
00:29:27,868 --> 00:29:30,748
Speaker 6: you a super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo. There's an impression

736
00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:33,548
Speaker 6: that put another guy in for brock Purty and the

737
00:29:33,628 --> 00:29:37,268
Speaker 6: Shanahan machine will win. You could put Sam Darnold in there,

738
00:29:37,268 --> 00:29:39,588
Speaker 6: who was there last year, at a lesser deal than

739
00:29:39,628 --> 00:29:41,708
Speaker 6: brock Perty is going to get, and you're going to win.

740
00:29:41,828 --> 00:29:46,308
Speaker 6: It's that he's limited, it's that he is a passenger basically. Now,

741
00:29:46,588 --> 00:29:48,548
Speaker 6: that's where the juice is in the debate. If you

742
00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:52,108
Speaker 6: really think that it's brock Purty's talent and acumen and

743
00:29:52,148 --> 00:29:55,668
Speaker 6: work ethic, fine, but don't ignore the impression out there

744
00:29:55,748 --> 00:29:59,388
Speaker 6: that rock Purty is certainly not a Josh Allen talent

745
00:29:59,708 --> 00:30:02,628
Speaker 6: or a Joe Burn talent. He's an average talent in

746
00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:04,548
Speaker 6: a great system. He works hard and.

747
00:30:04,468 --> 00:30:06,228
Speaker 2: The executes and God bless him for it.

748
00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:09,708
Speaker 6: But there is two sides to that debate of she'd

749
00:30:09,748 --> 00:30:10,588
Speaker 6: just pay him everything.

750
00:30:10,628 --> 00:30:12,708
Speaker 2: He's amazing. It's not cut and dry.

751
00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:15,068
Speaker 5: It's a good question what would rock Purty net on

752
00:30:15,108 --> 00:30:17,788
Speaker 5: the open market? And I think you know, Isaac, you

753
00:30:17,828 --> 00:30:20,828
Speaker 5: just said that, and it's you look at guys like Josh.

754
00:30:20,508 --> 00:30:22,148
Speaker 2: Allen and Joe Burt, it would never even happen.

755
00:30:22,348 --> 00:30:24,348
Speaker 6: Would you rather have as your quarterback Dak Prescott or

756
00:30:24,428 --> 00:30:27,188
Speaker 6: Rock Perty like you tell me, is it clear and cut?

757
00:30:27,308 --> 00:30:28,868
Speaker 2: I think I'd probably read that, Dak.

758
00:30:28,948 --> 00:30:30,588
Speaker 5: And would you rather have Trevor? I would rather have

759
00:30:30,708 --> 00:30:32,628
Speaker 5: Rock Purty than Trevor Lawrence. If we're using Trevor Lawrence,

760
00:30:32,628 --> 00:30:35,268
Speaker 5: I don't know. Trevor Lawrence still has all the potential

761
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,308
Speaker 5: in the world of lop Hill's eyes, and as good

762
00:30:37,308 --> 00:30:38,108
Speaker 5: as Purty is.

763
00:30:38,068 --> 00:30:39,508
Speaker 2: It's do you take him out of that system? And

764
00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:40,508
Speaker 2: is he the same guy.

765
00:30:40,508 --> 00:30:42,548
Speaker 6: Brock Purdy winning and Jackson in the last few years?

766
00:30:42,588 --> 00:30:44,828
Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, I do he's not. What do you

767
00:30:44,868 --> 00:30:45,308
Speaker 2: guys think?

768
00:30:45,388 --> 00:30:46,468
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say.

769
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Speaker 3: I I was saying with some friends forty nine Ers

770
00:30:48,828 --> 00:30:50,548
Speaker 3: fans at a dinner, and this guy is.

771
00:30:50,588 --> 00:30:51,908
Speaker 4: A Massifrey and Iris fan goes.

772
00:30:52,188 --> 00:30:55,428
Speaker 3: I don't think Rock Party deserves that type of contract

773
00:30:55,468 --> 00:30:58,348
Speaker 3: at fifty million a year contract. He would rather have

774
00:30:58,428 --> 00:31:00,948
Speaker 3: somebody else pay Rock Perty. Isaac to your point and

775
00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:03,268
Speaker 3: bring in I'm not saying it's Rogers, but bring in

776
00:31:03,348 --> 00:31:05,668
Speaker 3: somebody on the open market because of how good Shanahan is,

777
00:31:05,708 --> 00:31:07,228
Speaker 3: So there are real forty nine Ers fans out there

778
00:31:07,228 --> 00:31:09,308
Speaker 3: who are like, no, no, no, no, like bound and gag,

779
00:31:09,348 --> 00:31:10,948
Speaker 3: we don't want to pay him like that because we

780
00:31:11,068 --> 00:31:13,508
Speaker 3: have to put the money elsewhere. So Kyle speaking to

781
00:31:13,548 --> 00:31:15,948
Speaker 3: the fans, it's not I think the representation is just

782
00:31:15,988 --> 00:31:18,188
Speaker 3: like we love him, people like Bark Party. He's a

783
00:31:18,188 --> 00:31:19,748
Speaker 3: great guy and he seems to fit that sy some

784
00:31:19,828 --> 00:31:21,868
Speaker 3: great But I don't think there is this ground swell

785
00:31:21,868 --> 00:31:24,188
Speaker 3: amongst forty nine Ers fans that are like, no, he's

786
00:31:24,308 --> 00:31:26,748
Speaker 3: absolutely our guy for the next seven years. Pay him

787
00:31:26,748 --> 00:31:29,308
Speaker 3: some guaranteed massive deal because of you, because you have

788
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:30,108
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan.

789
00:31:30,428 --> 00:31:33,268
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Shannanan know what time it's been for the

790
00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:35,668
Speaker 6: last for the last few years. Yeah, you have a

791
00:31:36,028 --> 00:31:39,988
Speaker 6: dirt cheap quarterback, like the lowest paid guy in the league.

792
00:31:40,348 --> 00:31:42,788
Speaker 6: And it's not a coincidence that there are players all

793
00:31:42,828 --> 00:31:45,028
Speaker 6: over the defense, all over the huddle, and how many

794
00:31:45,068 --> 00:31:47,028
Speaker 6: of those guys have left now Drake green Law and

795
00:31:47,068 --> 00:31:49,228
Speaker 6: you check, we could keep going and going. You had

796
00:31:49,228 --> 00:31:51,668
Speaker 6: your window, it's you didn't cash it in. And now

797
00:31:51,668 --> 00:31:54,108
Speaker 6: it's a new normal. This is a new John Lynch

798
00:31:54,108 --> 00:31:56,508
Speaker 6: has a totally different job. Now, and I feel like

799
00:31:56,588 --> 00:31:58,468
Speaker 6: Niners fans is probably a sense of we should have

800
00:31:58,508 --> 00:31:58,948
Speaker 6: cashed it in.

801
00:31:58,988 --> 00:32:01,348
Speaker 9: Yeah, And the thing with Perty that I really want

802
00:32:01,388 --> 00:32:03,468
Speaker 9: to touch on and Kyle you were kind of just

803
00:32:03,508 --> 00:32:06,348
Speaker 9: talking about it Shanahan of it all. It just is

804
00:32:06,348 --> 00:32:08,628
Speaker 9: what it is. So many guys in the NFL get

805
00:32:08,628 --> 00:32:11,308
Speaker 9: paid because they're just there, Like you got you have

806
00:32:11,388 --> 00:32:13,828
Speaker 9: to pay your quarterback that is there, and that's kind

807
00:32:13,828 --> 00:32:16,308
Speaker 9: of the situation that he's ensure. You could plug in

808
00:32:16,388 --> 00:32:19,548
Speaker 9: other quarterbacks that would be successful, but he's there and

809
00:32:19,588 --> 00:32:21,788
Speaker 9: he's done it and he's the guy, and the market is.

810
00:32:21,908 --> 00:32:24,428
Speaker 2: Crazy, so I think you have to respect that.

811
00:32:24,788 --> 00:32:28,068
Speaker 7: My thing is, I'm so tired of hearing people call

812
00:32:28,308 --> 00:32:31,348
Speaker 7: brock Purty average in any type of way. Like Tom

813
00:32:31,388 --> 00:32:34,788
Speaker 7: Brady physically was an average dude, but he had elite.

814
00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:37,708
Speaker 2: Traits and they were up here. He had elite traits.

815
00:32:37,468 --> 00:32:40,268
Speaker 7: In decision making and in protecting the football. I don't

816
00:32:40,308 --> 00:32:42,948
Speaker 7: care what system you put brock Purty in. He's going

817
00:32:42,988 --> 00:32:45,668
Speaker 7: to come in, learn the system. He's gonna make great

818
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:48,068
Speaker 7: decisions because guess what, as a quarterback, you got to

819
00:32:48,108 --> 00:32:50,868
Speaker 7: do that on every single snap because you touch the

820
00:32:50,948 --> 00:32:54,188
Speaker 7: ball on every single snap. You gotta make great decisions

821
00:32:54,228 --> 00:32:56,068
Speaker 7: and you got to protect the football. One of the

822
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:59,308
Speaker 7: biggest things when it comes to winning football games is

823
00:32:59,388 --> 00:33:00,348
Speaker 7: turnover ratio.

824
00:33:00,628 --> 00:33:01,948
Speaker 2: They say, if you lose.

825
00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:04,188
Speaker 7: The turnover battle, it is a seventy percent chance that

826
00:33:04,268 --> 00:33:07,228
Speaker 7: you're going to lose that game. Brock Party is great

827
00:33:07,268 --> 00:33:09,908
Speaker 7: at protecting football. He is great at making great decisions,

828
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,348
Speaker 7: and he knows and understands the system. So I don't

829
00:33:12,388 --> 00:33:14,148
Speaker 7: care what system you put him in. I don't care

830
00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:16,548
Speaker 7: where you plug him in. He does things the right

831
00:33:16,588 --> 00:33:18,628
Speaker 7: way and that is elite in itself.

832
00:33:18,988 --> 00:33:21,188
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of comparisons right now to

833
00:33:21,228 --> 00:33:22,988
Speaker 5: Party and then like you think of like Jared Goff

834
00:33:22,988 --> 00:33:25,108
Speaker 5: and Detroit with Cabindo where you played, where a lot

835
00:33:25,108 --> 00:33:26,908
Speaker 5: of people were like, he's not worth this much money,

836
00:33:26,908 --> 00:33:28,628
Speaker 5: and then you look at it, you're like, he wins games,

837
00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:30,588
Speaker 5: he rebuilt this team, and we're going to pay him

838
00:33:30,628 --> 00:33:33,348
Speaker 5: based on that. If you're looking at Party, he's even

839
00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:36,148
Speaker 5: younger and has this great potential. Is he going to

840
00:33:36,188 --> 00:33:39,868
Speaker 5: ever win a quarterback challenge against the Trevor Lawrence and

841
00:33:39,948 --> 00:33:42,028
Speaker 5: the you know and whoever else you want? Jaden Daniels,

842
00:33:42,028 --> 00:33:44,348
Speaker 5: Probably not, but you put him in a team, you

843
00:33:44,388 --> 00:33:45,748
Speaker 5: can be a leader, and he's going to be a

844
00:33:45,748 --> 00:33:46,108
Speaker 5: guy that.

845
00:33:46,068 --> 00:33:48,228
Speaker 2: Can lift all boats. That's point. That's the point.

846
00:33:48,268 --> 00:33:51,828
Speaker 5: One point two. The Niners kind of control all the

847
00:33:51,908 --> 00:33:53,908
Speaker 5: cards here because they can offer him whatever they want

848
00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:54,388
Speaker 5: to offer him.

849
00:33:54,388 --> 00:33:55,148
Speaker 2: He could be insulted.

850
00:33:55,388 --> 00:33:58,308
Speaker 5: They can still franchise tag him two more years, so

851
00:33:58,668 --> 00:34:01,188
Speaker 5: it's almost he's not even on the open market for

852
00:34:01,228 --> 00:34:03,908
Speaker 5: another two seasons after this. So it's like, at what

853
00:34:04,028 --> 00:34:06,828
Speaker 5: point is that, Hey, I just I'm okay with forty million,

854
00:34:06,908 --> 00:34:09,068
Speaker 5: or I'm okay with forty five million, Because I do

855
00:34:09,188 --> 00:34:11,988
Speaker 5: think that's where the conversations are probably starting right now,

856
00:34:11,988 --> 00:34:13,428
Speaker 5: not fifty five, not sixty.

857
00:34:13,868 --> 00:34:16,068
Speaker 3: I do enjoy the prospect of the answer to this question,

858
00:34:16,108 --> 00:34:18,828
Speaker 3: which is the fact that Sam Donald was in San Francisco,

859
00:34:18,868 --> 00:34:22,108
Speaker 3: he goes to Minnesota and effectively becomes perhaps the product

860
00:34:22,148 --> 00:34:24,668
Speaker 3: of his system. Now we are going to see what

861
00:34:24,748 --> 00:34:27,668
Speaker 3: the Sam Donald experience really is at quarterback in Seattle,

862
00:34:27,828 --> 00:34:29,988
Speaker 3: and we may have more answers to this question this

863
00:34:30,188 --> 00:34:31,028
Speaker 3: upcoming season.

864
00:34:31,628 --> 00:34:35,148
Speaker 12: Welcome back everyone, as we continue to celebrate Women's Fistory Month,

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Speaker 12: we celebrate the accomplishments of inspirational women across the league.

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Speaker 12: British American football analysts and NFL Global Flag Football Ambassador

867
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Speaker 12: Phoebe Schechter describes how women are leading the flag football

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Speaker 12: movement around the world.

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Speaker 13: So I wear many different hats and ultimately they all

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Speaker 13: revolve around American football. I play flag football for Great Britain.

871
00:34:57,908 --> 00:34:59,988
Speaker 13: I am an analyst for Sky.

872
00:34:59,748 --> 00:35:01,868
Speaker 4: Sports Aaron chu Man here.

873
00:35:01,508 --> 00:35:04,348
Speaker 13: And I am also one of the NFL's Global Flag Ambassadors.

874
00:35:04,628 --> 00:35:07,708
Speaker 13: We're having countries reach out to us daily. So I

875
00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:10,508
Speaker 13: started off playing tackle football and absolutely fell in love

876
00:35:10,548 --> 00:35:12,868
Speaker 13: with it, and I decided I wanted to make my

877
00:35:12,948 --> 00:35:15,388
Speaker 13: whole life revolve around the sport. I never thought that

878
00:35:15,428 --> 00:35:19,228
Speaker 13: I was going to be a broadcaster for Sky Sports,

879
00:35:19,268 --> 00:35:22,108
Speaker 13: but I'm just so passionate and I want to educate

880
00:35:22,148 --> 00:35:22,588
Speaker 13: and teach.

881
00:35:22,868 --> 00:35:27,548
Speaker 2: What you guys are doing is so cool because there's

882
00:35:27,588 --> 00:35:29,388
Speaker 2: a place for women in our game. It's not a

883
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:31,028
Speaker 2: man's game, it's everybody's game.

884
00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:36,228
Speaker 13: As an NFL and IFAs Global Flag Ambassador, I feel

885
00:35:36,428 --> 00:35:38,748
Speaker 13: firstly so humble to be in this role. The growth

886
00:35:38,748 --> 00:35:42,428
Speaker 13: of flag football is so important, especially for women, because

887
00:35:42,748 --> 00:35:45,388
Speaker 13: first off, women are really the driving force behind this.

888
00:35:45,588 --> 00:35:48,628
Speaker 13: I think it's one of those sports where you don't

889
00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:51,548
Speaker 13: have to fit a certain mold. You can be any

890
00:35:51,628 --> 00:35:54,708
Speaker 13: shape or size. All you need is a football and

891
00:35:54,748 --> 00:35:57,108
Speaker 13: a flag belt. It's just one of those sports you

892
00:35:57,148 --> 00:36:00,228
Speaker 13: can't help but fall in love with when you watch it.

893
00:36:00,348 --> 00:36:03,308
Speaker 12: Sabe Scheckter one of the pre eminent minds and voices

894
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:06,588
Speaker 12: around the NFL and certainly in the world of flag

895
00:36:06,788 --> 00:36:09,468
Speaker 12: So to com Travis Kelce and Taylor Swiss one of

896
00:36:09,508 --> 00:36:12,268
Speaker 12: the premier power couples. But they aren't the only ones

897
00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:14,228
Speaker 12: out there in the NFL. We'll look at some of

898
00:36:14,268 --> 00:36:15,588
Speaker 12: the big name duos.

899
00:36:15,668 --> 00:36:29,668
Speaker 10: Only good morn football.

900
00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:32,308
Speaker 2: And welcome back, guys. I'm here with Isaac and we're

901
00:36:32,348 --> 00:36:34,548
Speaker 2: going to go back to our twenty eighteen game.

902
00:36:34,588 --> 00:36:36,748
Speaker 7: I actually didn't know at the time that I played

903
00:36:36,788 --> 00:36:38,508
Speaker 7: against Isaac. He was on the other side of this

904
00:36:38,668 --> 00:36:42,028
Speaker 7: Chargers Raiders game. This is my first start, my rookie year,

905
00:36:42,188 --> 00:36:43,828
Speaker 7: and we've got some highlights to play for you.

906
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:46,148
Speaker 2: Guys. Man, I think I was probably inspiring you. On

907
00:36:46,188 --> 00:36:49,468
Speaker 2: my side of the field. You might have married. This

908
00:36:49,588 --> 00:36:54,188
Speaker 2: is my guy, John Rudin Chucky Man. Paul's right here. See,

909
00:36:54,268 --> 00:36:55,628
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers.

910
00:36:55,308 --> 00:36:56,868
Speaker 7: Is probably one of the I don't think you guys

911
00:36:56,868 --> 00:36:59,868
Speaker 7: know this one of the biggest trash talkers in the

912
00:37:00,028 --> 00:37:02,828
Speaker 7: entire NFL at the time. At quarterback, I had no

913
00:37:02,948 --> 00:37:05,388
Speaker 7: idea Philip Rivers me out before this play.

914
00:37:05,428 --> 00:37:06,468
Speaker 2: I'm lined up right there.

915
00:37:06,628 --> 00:37:09,268
Speaker 7: I got Keenan Allen at three and he literally looks

916
00:37:09,308 --> 00:37:10,308
Speaker 7: at Keenan.

917
00:37:10,388 --> 00:37:12,788
Speaker 2: Points at me and he's like, just go. I'm like,

918
00:37:13,308 --> 00:37:15,708
Speaker 2: is this guy serious? Boom, Let's let let's play this

919
00:37:16,948 --> 00:37:20,548
Speaker 2: run with Keenan. I'm writing this hip pocket right here.

920
00:37:20,788 --> 00:37:23,148
Speaker 2: Look at Philip Rivers, you little old man throwing a duck. Man,

921
00:37:23,308 --> 00:37:24,188
Speaker 2: I'm right there.

922
00:37:24,348 --> 00:37:25,348
Speaker 7: I'm right there.

923
00:37:26,188 --> 00:37:27,388
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

924
00:37:27,628 --> 00:37:27,868
Speaker 1: Man.

925
00:37:28,228 --> 00:37:29,548
Speaker 9: You feel like you're back in it right now. I

926
00:37:29,588 --> 00:37:32,028
Speaker 9: just want to point out to Philip Rivers, he's a

927
00:37:32,108 --> 00:37:33,548
Speaker 9: dad gummy guy when he would talk.

928
00:37:33,788 --> 00:37:37,588
Speaker 2: Look at this I was. I felt like I was at.

929
00:37:37,428 --> 00:37:39,628
Speaker 9: The top of my career during these moments because I

930
00:37:39,668 --> 00:37:42,148
Speaker 9: was rushing with some of the best, Melvin Ingram.

931
00:37:41,948 --> 00:37:46,988
Speaker 2: And Joey Bosa. Oh that boy's coming downhill, undrafted free agent. Man,

932
00:37:47,028 --> 00:37:49,388
Speaker 2: I'm playing with my hair on fire man. This is

933
00:37:49,428 --> 00:37:51,308
Speaker 2: my time, this is my time.

934
00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:55,708
Speaker 7: Ooh, Keenan Allen was Keenan Allen was getting us this day.

935
00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:58,188
Speaker 2: Man, that boy can play, he can't play.

936
00:37:58,388 --> 00:38:00,228
Speaker 9: He can't play, and I feel like he ages and

937
00:38:00,228 --> 00:38:01,908
Speaker 9: gets better and better as he goes.

938
00:38:03,828 --> 00:38:05,028
Speaker 2: Melvin go in out here.

939
00:38:05,068 --> 00:38:08,388
Speaker 7: I mean, this guy was an absolute stud in college,

940
00:38:08,468 --> 00:38:10,508
Speaker 7: came out in the NFL and was tearing it up.

941
00:38:10,708 --> 00:38:13,268
Speaker 7: You see him here for a sixty yard touchdown. We

942
00:38:13,308 --> 00:38:15,428
Speaker 7: got our butts with this day. I can't lie, but

943
00:38:15,548 --> 00:38:17,188
Speaker 7: I was just happy that I was out there. Man,

944
00:38:17,228 --> 00:38:19,108
Speaker 7: I got the rock fine e League.

945
00:38:19,268 --> 00:38:22,348
Speaker 9: The coolest thing about this year, too, is just the

946
00:38:22,348 --> 00:38:24,228
Speaker 9: fact that I felt like our team was rolling like

947
00:38:24,268 --> 00:38:27,668
Speaker 9: this D line. Like I mentioned earlier with Melvin Ingram, myself,

948
00:38:27,788 --> 00:38:30,668
Speaker 9: Joey bo So we had so much distribution as far

949
00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:33,588
Speaker 9: as stats in sacks, and when that happens with the

950
00:38:33,668 --> 00:38:35,148
Speaker 9: D line, that's when you know you're rolling.

951
00:38:35,348 --> 00:38:37,668
Speaker 7: They bought five three under the ball man, Get that boy,

952
00:38:37,748 --> 00:38:39,148
Speaker 7: five three under the ball man.

953
00:38:39,268 --> 00:38:41,148
Speaker 2: Come on out, give me some airtime.

954
00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:44,228
Speaker 7: Go ahead, show that hey pause right here, pas right here.

955
00:38:44,268 --> 00:38:47,108
Speaker 7: Because I remember film review this week. I used to

956
00:38:47,108 --> 00:38:49,148
Speaker 7: see Derek Watt in the backfield, and I say, man,

957
00:38:49,788 --> 00:38:51,908
Speaker 7: the only reason why Derek Watton the leads because his brothers.

958
00:38:51,908 --> 00:38:53,548
Speaker 2: Man, It's only because of JJ and T. That's the

959
00:38:53,588 --> 00:38:55,228
Speaker 2: only reason why you're in the league. I just get

960
00:38:55,268 --> 00:38:58,388
Speaker 2: so answered when I see him. I promise you you're

961
00:38:58,388 --> 00:39:03,628
Speaker 2: going to play a clip. Play the clip is come here?

962
00:39:03,668 --> 00:39:06,708
Speaker 2: Where are you going? Hey going? Derek? I'll speak on

963
00:39:06,748 --> 00:39:08,508
Speaker 2: behalf of the wide fired up I've.

964
00:39:08,348 --> 00:39:10,548
Speaker 9: Played with you, Derek, you were a great teammate and

965
00:39:10,588 --> 00:39:12,708
Speaker 9: even better player. Let's not act like he didn't lead

966
00:39:12,748 --> 00:39:14,668
Speaker 9: the NFL in special teams tackles.

967
00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:23,068
Speaker 2: You know that on TV? We Uh I'll say, I

968
00:39:23,188 --> 00:39:23,748
Speaker 2: like how you like?

969
00:39:23,788 --> 00:39:25,588
Speaker 3: Oh that intense clip from the Lions?

970
00:39:25,708 --> 00:39:25,828
Speaker 2: Uh?

971
00:39:26,108 --> 00:39:28,148
Speaker 3: Hard knocks A follows me everywhere, Like, no, you're still

972
00:39:28,188 --> 00:39:29,108
Speaker 3: that guy, so like.

973
00:39:29,148 --> 00:39:31,508
Speaker 4: We see it, we see it every day. Peter and Kyle.

974
00:39:31,588 --> 00:39:33,428
Speaker 3: The one time that these two were on the field

975
00:39:33,428 --> 00:39:35,548
Speaker 3: at the same on the same game, it's pretty good.

976
00:39:35,588 --> 00:39:35,868
Speaker 2: Look back.

977
00:39:35,908 --> 00:39:38,068
Speaker 4: Anybody you remember that match up Peter Kyle New York.

978
00:39:38,908 --> 00:39:41,148
Speaker 5: Those are a lot of good Raiders Chargers games from

979
00:39:41,188 --> 00:39:43,108
Speaker 5: that era, of course. But I got to ask Kabinda

980
00:39:43,188 --> 00:39:46,108
Speaker 5: something we think of you as this hard nose fullback

981
00:39:46,148 --> 00:39:48,068
Speaker 5: to the Lions. There you are playing linebacker. When did

982
00:39:48,068 --> 00:39:50,588
Speaker 5: you make the switch and what was that conversation like?

983
00:39:50,628 --> 00:39:52,588
Speaker 5: Because it's very few times a player can go from

984
00:39:52,588 --> 00:39:55,108
Speaker 5: offense to defense or defense to offense in their career.

985
00:39:55,388 --> 00:39:57,188
Speaker 7: See A lot of people don't know this, but I mean,

986
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:59,188
Speaker 7: I played linebacker in my first three years in the league,

987
00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:01,908
Speaker 7: and you know, I ended up making the switch. I

988
00:40:01,908 --> 00:40:05,588
Speaker 7: don't want to say on accident, but it actually happened

989
00:40:05,588 --> 00:40:07,148
Speaker 7: because a lot of trash talk that used to go

990
00:40:07,148 --> 00:40:09,708
Speaker 7: on between me and our running backs coach Kyle Cask.

991
00:40:09,788 --> 00:40:10,148
Speaker 2: At the time.

992
00:40:10,188 --> 00:40:12,308
Speaker 7: We used to have one on one drills with our

993
00:40:12,508 --> 00:40:15,908
Speaker 7: running backs linebackers versus running backs, pass rush and pass routes,

994
00:40:15,908 --> 00:40:16,028
Speaker 7: and I.

995
00:40:16,028 --> 00:40:17,388
Speaker 2: Remember we used to whoop up on them.

996
00:40:17,468 --> 00:40:19,108
Speaker 7: And I remember passing him in the hallway in the

997
00:40:19,108 --> 00:40:20,788
Speaker 7: building over in Detroit. I was like, man, you guys

998
00:40:20,788 --> 00:40:23,148
Speaker 7: need some more dolls on your side, and Kyle was like, man,

999
00:40:23,348 --> 00:40:25,468
Speaker 7: why don't you come over here. We're just joking around.

1000
00:40:25,868 --> 00:40:27,948
Speaker 7: Next practice comes around, Kyle comes in grass and we

1001
00:40:28,028 --> 00:40:30,148
Speaker 7: got Oklahoma drills. He's like, man, just come here and

1002
00:40:30,148 --> 00:40:32,388
Speaker 7: play a little fullback. I had Jared Davis on the

1003
00:40:32,388 --> 00:40:34,708
Speaker 7: other side. He was our hardest hitting linebacker and I

1004
00:40:34,788 --> 00:40:36,508
Speaker 7: came over there in training camp and it was like

1005
00:40:36,548 --> 00:40:40,108
Speaker 7: a god and whoa. They were like, Okay, hold up,

1006
00:40:40,388 --> 00:40:42,428
Speaker 7: bit I might have a little something. Then the next

1007
00:40:42,428 --> 00:40:45,068
Speaker 7: practice comes around. We go half line, run same thing

1008
00:40:45,108 --> 00:40:47,268
Speaker 7: and go outside zone. I'm filling in on lead zone

1009
00:40:47,308 --> 00:40:50,348
Speaker 7: and boom smack a linebacker. Next practice after that, now

1010
00:40:50,348 --> 00:40:52,308
Speaker 7: I'm in eleven or eleven and now I'm like, all right,

1011
00:40:52,308 --> 00:40:53,508
Speaker 7: what's going on here?

1012
00:40:53,548 --> 00:40:55,708
Speaker 2: Guy? I am still a linebacker, Like, can we relax?

1013
00:40:55,868 --> 00:40:57,068
Speaker 2: Can we relax a little bit?

1014
00:40:57,148 --> 00:40:59,708
Speaker 7: And then you know, after that practice, I was still

1015
00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:01,668
Speaker 7: doing my thing. We had a fullback at the time

1016
00:41:01,708 --> 00:41:03,428
Speaker 7: that I was drafted in the fifth round. He was

1017
00:41:03,468 --> 00:41:06,188
Speaker 7: a little bit injured, and I ended up making the switch.

1018
00:41:06,228 --> 00:41:07,868
Speaker 7: I won the job doing that training camp and the

1019
00:41:07,908 --> 00:41:08,588
Speaker 7: rest was history.

1020
00:41:08,628 --> 00:41:09,588
Speaker 4: I'm perfect.

1021
00:41:10,108 --> 00:41:10,588
Speaker 2: I love it.

1022
00:41:10,628 --> 00:41:13,268
Speaker 6: And now you're making the switch to TV another position, Isaac.

1023
00:41:13,748 --> 00:41:16,788
Speaker 6: We love Philip Rivers. Here tell us something that we

1024
00:41:16,868 --> 00:41:18,388
Speaker 6: don't know about seventeen.

1025
00:41:18,428 --> 00:41:19,828
Speaker 2: When you look back, Philip.

1026
00:41:19,588 --> 00:41:21,388
Speaker 9: Rivers was one of the best teammates I've ever had.

1027
00:41:21,388 --> 00:41:24,588
Speaker 9: And I mean that genuinely. And it's not like Philip

1028
00:41:24,668 --> 00:41:27,148
Speaker 9: Rivers was you know it texted me, Isaac, you want

1029
00:41:27,148 --> 00:41:28,828
Speaker 9: to hang out, you know, like all this stuff, but

1030
00:41:28,908 --> 00:41:32,628
Speaker 9: he was so impactful. One of the biggest impactful moments

1031
00:41:32,628 --> 00:41:34,428
Speaker 9: that I had with Philip. I was a seventh round

1032
00:41:34,508 --> 00:41:37,988
Speaker 9: draft pick from Notre Dame, forty boy, long hair, nervous

1033
00:41:38,068 --> 00:41:39,868
Speaker 9: to walk in the locker room. And the first day

1034
00:41:39,908 --> 00:41:43,028
Speaker 9: that I walked in the locker room, Philip Rivers comes

1035
00:41:43,068 --> 00:41:44,028
Speaker 9: up to me, shakes my hand.

1036
00:41:44,068 --> 00:41:46,228
Speaker 2: He says, nice to meet you, Isaac. I'm Philip Rivers,

1037
00:41:46,388 --> 00:41:47,748
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hold phil.

1038
00:41:47,708 --> 00:41:50,548
Speaker 9: Ice, I know exactly who you are, but it's just

1039
00:41:50,548 --> 00:41:51,388
Speaker 9: the type of teammate.

1040
00:41:51,428 --> 00:41:51,828
Speaker 2: He was.

1041
00:41:52,028 --> 00:41:55,148
Speaker 9: Another thing about phil that I love flying back from games,

1042
00:41:55,148 --> 00:41:57,548
Speaker 9: and Jason, you know how fun these these flights back

1043
00:41:57,588 --> 00:42:00,308
Speaker 9: are when you win. He would sit back and chat

1044
00:42:00,348 --> 00:42:02,988
Speaker 9: with the young guys, tell us stories, and just feed

1045
00:42:03,068 --> 00:42:05,308
Speaker 9: us with information that we wanted.

1046
00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:06,268
Speaker 2: We were so excited.

1047
00:42:06,388 --> 00:42:08,548
Speaker 3: It was like story time with Philip Rivers. That's exactly

1048
00:42:08,628 --> 00:42:09,948
Speaker 3: what any of us want on this show.

1049
00:42:10,148 --> 00:42:10,388
Speaker 2: I got.

1050
00:42:10,468 --> 00:42:15,468
Speaker 9: That's awesome, mister Rogers. But uh, nin kids, and uh right,

1051
00:42:15,548 --> 00:42:16,828
Speaker 9: right right, And there's a.

1052
00:42:16,828 --> 00:42:18,028
Speaker 4: Van involved there somewhere.

1053
00:42:19,068 --> 00:42:22,308
Speaker 3: All right, guys, busy hour on GMFB. But Kyle, there

1054
00:42:22,348 --> 00:42:24,268
Speaker 3: must be a topic that we haven't gotten to in

1055
00:42:24,308 --> 00:42:26,148
Speaker 3: the next hour that you want to make sure we cover,

1056
00:42:26,388 --> 00:42:27,708
Speaker 3: maybe just in the next segment.

1057
00:42:27,748 --> 00:42:29,948
Speaker 2: Even Yeah, we dug deep for this one.

1058
00:42:30,068 --> 00:42:32,428
Speaker 6: We brainstormed, but we always give you the creativity, And

1059
00:42:32,508 --> 00:42:33,588
Speaker 6: for this one, we give.

1060
00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:35,388
Speaker 2: You who won free agency?

1061
00:42:35,588 --> 00:42:39,268
Speaker 6: Who is your winner of free agency. We're gonna declare it,

1062
00:42:39,308 --> 00:42:40,708
Speaker 6: we're gonna tweet it, we're gonna.

1063
00:42:40,468 --> 00:42:43,028
Speaker 2: Post it, and we're gonna be right right after this. Guys,

1064
00:42:43,068 --> 00:42:43,348
Speaker 2: But we

1065
00:42:43,388 --> 00:42:51,308
Speaker 3: Don't do lothers just to one, Yeah,