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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, Keep the turkey away from

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, you better from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas with the a

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Speaker 1: fore mentioned Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal heroes both so

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Speaker 1: my self, love is okay, it's important and on this

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Speaker 1: show and uh, you know this week, Week twelve, right

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Speaker 1: week eleven, last week I labeled a nasty little thing

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Speaker 1: this week. To me, this Sunday is the inverse of that.

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Speaker 1: And let me explain this Sunday. A schedule that wasn't

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Speaker 1: especially juicy, to put it kindly, not a lot of

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Speaker 1: high profile matchups on the schedule, and yet NFL Sunday

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Speaker 1: woke up, rolled out of bed, and when it got

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Speaker 1: to the press box, took a deeper smiled to go

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Speaker 1: photo and then posted on Twitter my office for the day,

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Speaker 1: which a phrase that we banned about a half a

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Speaker 1: decade ago on the show. Right away, you know, optimistic

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Speaker 1: about life, reflective on the journey, and how lucky football

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Speaker 1: is to be football. And then the football was good

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Speaker 1: because that's just like a cliche moment which it almost

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Speaker 1: feels like punching it in these teams are punched it in.

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Speaker 1: Just to clear that's a difference when you and I Greg,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that message when people posted

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Speaker 1: I see that as when it when a beat writer

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Speaker 1: whoever puts my office for the day, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a feeling of Wow, I'm at the super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: this is where I get to work. This is a

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Speaker 1: cool job. There are times when it has more cynicism

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Speaker 1: on the side, and we literally banned it on the show.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's more like mailing it in as a tweet,

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Speaker 1: just like as Twitter performance. In terms of the original tweet, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like the sentiment we're way off.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it was a good sudday at games and

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Speaker 1: then it wasn't. Hey, we banned the phrase from the show,

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Speaker 1: so there's literally it's a lawless move on your part.

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Speaker 1: But secondly, in case the listeners are wondering because that

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Speaker 1: last week's episode also had was it sucked the sadness

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Speaker 1: or smell the sadness? Swallow sadness? I mean that was

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Speaker 1: just because I want people need to know, just because

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Speaker 1: the Jets had to turnaround performance today, that's not why

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Speaker 1: the optimism in the my office for the day business

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Speaker 1: comes up. That was a separate part of the show's

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Speaker 1: title a week ago. No, people that know that the

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Speaker 1: old Zeuser is a beacon of integrity, understand that I

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Speaker 1: know what happened in our league this week and last week.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a greater viewpoint, Like, my fandom does

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Speaker 1: not extend just to the Jets. I'm loyal to football.

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Speaker 1: That was my point about you. That's where I'm at now.

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Speaker 1: As the weeks go on, I'm just like Greg, I

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Speaker 1: feel like, just do you know what you're suggesting that

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Speaker 1: I that I don't know. The undertone is that you're

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Speaker 1: the two of you enjoy the sport and I'm just

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Speaker 1: floating along here. Yeah, well that's not accurate, but just

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Speaker 1: a narrowed We have so much to get to today.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, let us start with the game. Let's start here.

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Speaker 1: This is good, the game that everyone expected to be good,

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Speaker 1: the game that featured two teams that makes sense as

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders in the a f C squaring off

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Tennessee, and it did go down to the

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Speaker 1: final minutes. Joe catches the shotgun, snaff fakes the p

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Speaker 1: Touchdown the goals as he used his height and his

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Great throw by Burrow, better catch by Higgins.

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Speaker 1: There you go. There's the call from Jeff Joniac and

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Speaker 1: Tim tom thare W B B M. The Bengals man,

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Speaker 1: they can beach in different ways and the Titans note

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Speaker 1: the physical Titans feeling good about themselves, but the Bengals

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Speaker 1: to have their number. Joe Burrow through a twenty seven

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Speaker 1: teen win by the defending conference champions over the Titans,

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Speaker 1: the team that was the number one seed last January.

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Speaker 1: The Titans got knocked out by the Bengals on their

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Speaker 1: UH miracle run to the Super Bowl. So here we

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Speaker 1: are now, UH, two teams feeling good. And it was

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Speaker 1: in this game mark the Bengals that are feeling better

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Speaker 1: because as the season goes on, they continue to get

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Speaker 1: even when they're missing key players. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: with a plan to just sell out, I think, and

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Speaker 1: Guys like som j p Rhyan with Joe Mixon out

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Speaker 1: a huge play in this game. Are dude, Trenton Irwin,

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Speaker 1: for a football game for showing up late after rehearsal. Well,

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Speaker 1: where did you get him? It got him here. He

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Speaker 1: made a gigantic catch in this game from the audition rooms.

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Speaker 1: That charisma of the child actor to the football field.

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Speaker 1: You see it, you do see it. And it's these

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Speaker 1: this game came down to and we can talk to

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Speaker 1: Grave Digger about this. Uh the Titans ran out of

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Speaker 1: The Bengals were driving. They hadn't forced into a field

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Speaker 1: the game. How that's right there? And one now, Grave

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Speaker 1: I am staying on. This didn't shake my confidence at all.

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Speaker 1: This is just another week. And along along those lines,

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Speaker 1: Giardi saying that That's all we've heard is that you

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Speaker 1: have to match their physicality. Well, you have to be

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Speaker 1: We're a different team than we were a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm ready to go there yet,

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Speaker 1: but this is how you build into being a different

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Speaker 1: You can tell me what you thought, Grave Digger of

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Speaker 1: how Joe Burrow looked, But I don't think anyone played

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Speaker 1: Some of the throws he made in that Pittsburgh game,

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Speaker 1: We're just crazy. He's played as well in the last

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Speaker 1: And if you got Joe Burrow peakin and when you

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Speaker 1: Burrow looked great. I mean he he was very accurate

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Speaker 1: there's nothing around him, right, What are the quarterback is

430
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 1: in this situation on a team that people are still

431
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: saying they could go win a couple of playoff games.

432
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: De Marcus DeMarcus Robinson dropped a touchdown that was a

433
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: four point play, like on a great play by Lamar

434
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: like that that could have been the difference in the game.

435
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews dropped a touchdown, although they ended up scoring

436
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: on that drive anyways, like people were letting him down

437
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: all over the place. Quickly, we we got to mention

438
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: that they went for two and there was a couple

439
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,959
Speaker 1: of coaching decisions in this game that we're fascinating, but

440
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: we we've sort of pass right by it that they

441
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: go for two the Jaguars to go win the game there,

442
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: they could have kicked the ball to go for overtime.

443
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: And I love that. I love them feeling that moment

444
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: twice today and it worked twice today, right And the

445
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: other one I didn't feel as good about in the moment,

446
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: But the way the Jaguars offense was moving the ball there,

447
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: that felt like the best chance to win the game.

448
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 1: And I love that Peterson uh did it and that

449
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence rewarded it. We gotta see more of that, Yes, Yes,

450
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: and remember Twitter is the playground of idiots. Noel Gallagher

451
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: once said, how any Ravenson could watch that game and

452
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: come after Lamar. I've just seen what the defense did

453
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: laying down in that game. But justin Tucker, it looked

454
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: like he won the game. Well, that's sixties seven calm down,

455
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Greg one second, sixties seven yards and it was straight

456
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: down the middle. But then let's hear the call from

457
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: the Jaguars from sixties seven yards Tucker to god, God,

458
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: the jar was winned? Who don't win for Jackson? Now?

459
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: And that's a that's a silly building with the guy

460
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: in the thong, the mascot and the chlorine tank and everything,

461
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: But that that was a pretty good home field advantage. Today,

462
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: if you freeze frame that kick and it's just like,

463
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, three quarters through it, I will bet my

464
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: least car that like that thing's going in and that

465
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: bang it's not it look at it looks perfect. Well

466
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: if it's least what happens, well, I don't know, I'd

467
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: have to deal with the dealership. I don't know what.

468
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't own property. What am I supposed to call?

469
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 1: At the very least, why do you mentioned that the

470
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: crowd because it almost felt like the crowd knew that

471
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: they were watching something special. It was really great throughout

472
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They're a great football town. We know

473
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Speaker 1: how supportive they've been, and I think dan Doug Peterson,

474
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: we saw him celebrating right at the end. It was

475
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: like hands. It was a little extra because their squib

476
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: kick to set up that uh kick would have gone

477
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: down is one of the worst coaching decisions of the year.

478
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: There is only fourteen seconds left when they kicked it off.

479
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: It was a bad idea, I guess, but it was

480
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: even worse execution. They got the ball at the forty

481
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: yard line and they don't only burned four seconds off

482
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: the clock. It was a disaster of a decision that

483
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: almost handed over the game. I mean, Doug Peterson would

484
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: have been absolutely killed. Just kick it or kick it

485
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: high and deep and short. But the great thing about

486
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: winning because like people, no one's gonnaver talk about that

487
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: ever again. After tonight, we're just getting started. Let's take

488
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: a break and then we'll roll on Week twelve. Welcome back.

489
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Speaker 1: We keep spinning our way through Week twelve. Let's head

490
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Speaker 1: to the meadow Lands where the Jets began the Mike

491
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: White era back to throw looks over the middle pros one.

492
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: It is talk Wilson at the thirty, spits right to

493
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Speaker 1: the twenty touchdown Yaren Wilson with runt yard touched. It's

494
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: own dude, Bob will Shusan and Marty Lions what they

495
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: called w E p N. Mike White stepped in for

496
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: the benched Zack Wilson and threw three touchdown passes and

497
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: was almost perfect. Two of those to Garrett Wilson, the

498
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: other to Elijah More. Just to rub it in uh

499
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Wilson's face even more, Zach Wilson, that is, and the

500
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Speaker 1: Jets roll over a beat up Bears team thirteen on

501
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: Sunday and uh boys, There's two ways to look at

502
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: this one. Both have merit. One, don't read into it

503
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: too much. It's against the Bears, who are in tank

504
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: mode at this point. They're beat up there one of

505
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in football, and I get that, because

506
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: you do you will need to see more from Mike

507
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: White than just this game. But then there's the other

508
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: side that White running this offense effectively and efficiently and

509
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: getting the balls, the ball into the hands of the

510
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Jets playmakers was a revelation and confirmation to all the

511
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: players that really made this move happen. I mean, I

512
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: think it's a massive victory for the Jets where we

513
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: stand right now. We'll see what happens with Mike White,

514
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: but Mike White has produced before and spots starts. I

515
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: think secondly, this was all about the coaching staff listening

516
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: to the players, listening to the locker room, and they

517
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: tidied that and mess up quick to the front office. Sure,

518
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: but I mean in general, there's gotta be enough people

519
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: saying we need to make a change, and there wasn't

520
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: a lot of it wasn't. Instead of being stubborn about it,

521
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: they handled correctly. And then on the field, Mike White

522
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: in a rain in a rough weather is making throws

523
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson who went off a week ago, Elijah

524
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Speaker 1: Moore who has essentially been invisible. I mean, these guys

525
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: are now part of the offense and I don't care

526
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: if it's a bad defense. You went out and put

527
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: thirty one points up, but we're functional. So it's like

528
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: that's where other teams have been doing to the Bears.

529
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: That's what you just did to the Bears. Right, Yeah,

530
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: he had the highest quarterback rating Mike quite uh for

531
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: a Jet since Geno Smith back in Look, that Garrett

532
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: Wilson play is the perfect play to point it out.

533
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is a beast. I think he could have been,

534
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: or maybe still could be offensive rookie of the Year.

535
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: He just looks so good when he gets the chance,

536
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: and the way he opened up his hips and just

537
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: oki do the defender there reminds you of Odell Beckham

538
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: a little bit as a as a youngster in New York.

539
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: But that play can give some credit to Mike White

540
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: because it's absolutely a timing throw where he gets it

541
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Speaker 1: over the first level of defense and in front of

542
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: the second level and if you don't have that ball

543
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: there exactly on time, Wilson is not going to have

544
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: the space to go make that play. And I don't

545
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: think Zach Wilson is making that play, not not the

546
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: same way. We we know Zach Wilson isn't making that

547
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: play in the same way. So that part of the

548
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: conversations over for me for for a while, it's just

549
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: what can this team do now? And with the schedule

550
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: that they have, At least for Mike White, I think

551
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep putting up good number. Yeah. I can't

552
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: wait to see him again because if you know his backstory.

553
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: Two years ago, he he became a brief sensation with

554
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: the team by beating Cincinnati and thrown for four yards

555
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: played Thursday Night Football, got injured immediately and missed that game,

556
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: then had a meltdown performance where he threw four picks

557
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: against Buffalo and was out of the lineup until now.

558
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: But if you watched these Zach Wilson starts, the issues

559
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: went beyond the opponents. So you can't just say and

560
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: if there are Zack Wilson defenders out there, so well,

561
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: if he got a chance against the Chicago defense, he

562
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: would have done the same thing. No, because the things

563
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: that White was doing what made him look so different today.

564
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: His ability to keep his eyes up, not be obsessed

565
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: with the pass rush, gets skittish, run around hanging there fine,

566
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: and then just deliver strikes and be accurate with the football.

567
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: And I think one thing that kind of has been

568
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: under the radar because of the quarterback is how talented

569
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: some of these playmakers are and Garrett Wilson. And it's

570
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: a sliding doors moment because the Jets were the other

571
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: finalists for Tyreek Hill, and he kind of turns his

572
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: back in the last second and goes to Miami. So

573
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: the Jets pivot and draft Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson is

574
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: a star here. Elijah Moore has that ability as well.

575
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: And uh, it's fun to see the offense just being

576
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: run in an efficient, professional manner, because it wasn't that

577
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: this is all we were asking. Just it's like relatively

578
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: competent quarterback playing up more than that city I do.

579
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not to dig it all up,

580
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: but it's like, I do wonder what this coaching staff

581
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: how they viewed Mike White versus Zach Wilson in in camp,

582
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: in practices, um, the person behind the scenes. And I

583
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: just kind of wish, looking at the two Patriots games specifically,

584
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: that you had a chance to have Mike White helm

585
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: one of them. It would have been a big difference maker.

586
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: But you're here now, and so you just have to

587
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: waive all that goodbye. I'd be surprised if we see

588
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: see Zach Wilson, who was in street clothes today inactive

589
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: again this year. Every time they showed him, I mean

590
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: it was and again, like Mark mentioned, it. It was

591
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: raining and raining hard at times very hard, and it

592
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: didn't matter. This offense moved the ball really well and

593
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: every time they cut to Wilson and he's getting just

594
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: poured on in the rain wearing the Jets gear with

595
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: a hood over him. Like what was going through his

596
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: head you can't even imagine. But the Jets as an

597
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: organization have moved on from all of that with this

598
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: game and that, and that feels good as a fan

599
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: because for the first time since the Breeze Hall injury,

600
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you can start opening your mind up

601
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: to higher ambition for the season again because the quarterback

602
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: play was better. For one week there seven and four,

603
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: they showed an ability to put four hundred and sixty

604
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: six yards on the board against I would say the

605
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: worst defense in the league. But that's that's part of

606
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: the point, is like, Okay, when you play the worst

607
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: defensive league, you can put four sixty six on the

608
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: board there. I didn't think that they were going to

609
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: be capable of doing that before. Mike White doesn't have

610
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: the you know, physical tools, uh that that you would

611
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: expect out of a great draft prosect. But he's not

612
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: like a rookie. He was in the Mitch Drabinsky draft class.

613
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: Like he's been around, he's been in the league now

614
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: since and he was undrafted. I think he kicked around

615
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: like he has experience, and mentally, I think he knows

616
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: where to go with the ball in this system which

617
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: really asks for right answers and can he be better

618
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: than a Nick mullins was, for instance for Mike McDaniel

619
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: back in San Francisco. I think he can probably be

620
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: better than that with with this talent, and that's what

621
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: he needs to do. Next week they are at Minnesota,

622
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: and I think that is a really interesting game for

623
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Bowl teams, but especially for Jet fans now who are

624
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: going to live and be have the high life again

625
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: off this quarterback performance, but until you see it again

626
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: from White against a good opponent, you're gonna wonder if

627
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: it's Fool's gold star in New York this week though,

628
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: the Mike White chance we're back very interesting. Uh, It's

629
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: been an interesting season as a Jets fans because you're

630
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: you know who led this, uh this game and tackles

631
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Born everything, got everything I wanted. Anyway, Let's move on. Uh.

632
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: So that's my favorite team. Greg's favorite team is the Seahawks,

633
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: and they welcome them, well from the Raiders team into

634
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: their building, look into wipe away their pre buy loss.

635
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Uh in Munich. But guess what the Raiders aren't laying

636
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: down and adds off to Jacob stutters to the right

637
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: first of the whole He's off to the races partsy.

638
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's gonna catch him. Ten ball game,

639
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: Bye bye Josh eighties six yards and over time toutsdown

640
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Runners victory Las Vegas unbelievable, I mean, grave digger. How

641
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: is Josh Dagobs on a three hundred yard day yards

642
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: from scrimmage? Not get the bongos? Well, you said it

643
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: right before. They cause Greg's favorite team. We don't want

644
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: to like. Are we celebrating sadness? Sadness because you locked

645
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: up to see anyway a producer who uses his powers

646
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: for evil? We'll we noted Josh Jacobs uh ran thirty

647
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: three times for two hundred and twenty nine yards, including yes,

648
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: that eight six yard jaunt in overtime, and for the

649
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: second time and as many sundays the Raiders walk off

650
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: an opponent with a touchdown. I can't believe. I can't

651
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: imagine that's happened too many times forty to thirty four

652
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: over the Seahawks, and um, you know, Greggy, Um, we'll

653
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: get to the Seahawks because it feels like they're bugaboo

654
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: that defense, uh is once again it's going to be

655
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: a major issue for them. But for the Raiders, you

656
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: gotta give it up to them because they had no

657
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: reason to go up there and play this hard and

658
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,479
Speaker 1: play this well, and yet they perform well and they're

659
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of just hanging around a little bit there. They're

660
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: a tough the offense to defend, and anytime Seattle got

661
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: to stop in this game, it felt like they had

662
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: scored some huge victory, like they were just going downhill.

663
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Jacob's ends up with over three hundred yards from scrimmage total.

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Speaker 1: That's out ages he's playing at did get the Bongoes

665
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: playing at an elite level. Davante Adams only quote unquote

666
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: seven for seventy four, but had an incredible one handed

667
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: catch to to set up the game tying touchdown, and

668
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: then Max Crosby on defense with sacks in back to

669
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: back crucial situations, one to end to drive in overtime,

670
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: the other to end the drive at the end of regulation.

671
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: He's playing at in our all pro level like they

672
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: have players in Car got intercepted a couple of times.

673
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: It was misleading. One of them Adams wasn't paying attention,

674
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: uh to the It was on the first play of

675
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: the the entire game. It was a good ball. The

676
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: second one was more of a great play by the

677
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Seattle defense where it hit the Raiders receiver in the hands.

678
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: Car was so comfortable the Seahawks got no pressure on

679
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: him and he knows just when to get out of

680
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: the pocket, when to let go of the ball. And

681
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: their offense today and we've seen this a handful of

682
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: times this year, like looked like one of the better

683
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: offenses in the entire NFL. Well, I think when they

684
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: can run the ball this way, it helps Car a lot.

685
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: And there and there was that read where I thought

686
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: that's what they were going to become, like a ground

687
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: dominant force that can overpower teams. And then that kind

688
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: of was real hot and cold came and went. But

689
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: if you I love the Car because those two picks

690
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: came on the first three possessions. That's the formula for

691
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: an entire team that's on the brink to begin with

692
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: where it seems to be there's a disconnect between quarterback

693
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: and coach, offense and coach, team and coach, coach and

694
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: maybe owner who can't pay for another coach, or a

695
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: lot of things going on. And yet there are four

696
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: and seven and I believe it's six of their losses

697
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: have been by one score. So they've been in these games.

698
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: They're not getting their doors blown off. And you went

699
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: and beat a Seattle defense that outside of today, had

700
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: been trending upward over and over. I didn't love them

701
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: against the Bucks, I guess in Germany, but like the

702
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: only right their defense like had been an asset and

703
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: not a weakness in the Raiders just put on them

704
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I thought the defense and then Josh Jacobs

705
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Of course, UH got their head

706
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: coach off the hook because I was saying it in

707
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: real time in the news room. Hated, hated the overtime

708
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: decision first possession. The Raiders set up for a on

709
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: fourth and two and a day when they have rolled

710
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: up over four hundred yards of total offense in an error,

711
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: when everybody's going for it, they they set I know

712
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Carlson is an excellent kicker. They settled for a

713
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: fifty six yard attempt, and it's not even a game

714
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: winning attempt because it was their ball first, and Carlson

715
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: pushes it wide right. Seattle gets the ball near midfield,

716
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: only needing a field goal, and this Las Vegas events

717
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: stand strong gets the three and out punts it back

718
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: and Jacob's bust the first run for the game winner.

719
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: So I didn't love the way McDaniels played it. I'm

720
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: a little obviously as many Raiders fans, I'm sure lukewarm

721
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: at best on the McDaniels era so far. But just

722
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: to circle back to your point, Greg Davante, Adams, Max Crosby,

723
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: those guys are superstars on each side of the ball.

724
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is a I think a good quarterback, not

725
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: a great one. Josh Jacobs, I'm not gonna say he's

726
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: a superstar, but he's playing like one this year. He's

727
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: actually one h yards clear the next closest running back

728
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: in the rushing title race right now. Like, this team

729
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: has no business not being in the playoff mix, and

730
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: maybe they still have a chance. They gotta get out here,

731
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: but we'll see in the In the a f C,

732
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I would say they don't have a chance. They could

733
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: run the table and then they'd have a chance. And

734
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: that seems a little more if you necessarily have to

735
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: run the table, but you have to one one loss

736
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: of wiggle room. Maybe a f C, I think you're

737
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: gonna need ten wins. It just looks we always think

738
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to sweep and send back to

739
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: back weeks. You got the charges and rams. I don't

740
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: like this. And Dan, you mentioned maybe the Chiefs in

741
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: the final game of the season are sitting people, but

742
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: you got the forty Niners and Chiefs to close the

743
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: season and a tough Patriots defense. I don't see it,

744
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: but I am impressed with today a f C. I mean,

745
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: if they were in the NFC, i'd i'd give him

746
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: a chance that seven spot might get. We could feel

747
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: the team that would make the NFC play little. Yeah,

748
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: a little wonky, but you're right. McDaniels was frustrating every

749
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: fourth down and college mate seemed to be wrong. He

750
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: also kicked a field goal to on fourth and one

751
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line in the third quarter, and

752
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: and again like, okay, you want to tie the game.

753
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: But it's not just Jacobs who was running six point

754
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: nine yards per carry, Zamir White fourteen yards per carry

755
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: on two, Amir Abdullah three for sixteen, like every time

756
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: they ran the ball, So that drove me crazy. And

757
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: then they did go for it at midfield on fourth

758
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: and one, and they had a toss play where they

759
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: lost yards and didn't get it, and I think that

760
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: was in his head. But they looked like they were

761
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: the better team. They dominated up from on both sides.

762
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: They got after Gino Smith a lot more uh than

763
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: than vice versa, and their offensive line played really well

764
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: and really dominated Seattle's defense in a way that is

765
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: a little concerning. This was a game where I think

766
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: they felt the absence of Jamal Adams. Just so many

767
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: big plays and and just the secondary. A lot of

768
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: confusion going on for Seattle's defense, and Seattle's got a

769
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: few little problems popping up. Kenneth Walker. Now, is that

770
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: three straight games where he really hasn't gotten anything going

771
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: on the ground. He's been okay in fantasy because he

772
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: scores it touchdown or he makes a big play as

773
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: a receiver, but they were dominated when they tried to

774
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: run the ball, and they just don't make as much

775
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: sense Gino mostly had a good day after after a

776
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: poor start, but the running game in a lot of

777
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: situations just put him in a tough What the about

778
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Gino Smith? He he had a couple Again, every game,

779
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, he'll throw a couple throws.

780
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: It's like, that's Geno Smith woe. He had seen us

781
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns that have had a completion probability of under

782
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: the season. No other quarterback has more than three. He's

783
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: making those their drives. They when they went on a drive,

784
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: it went fast. They had at least five players over

785
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: twenty yards. It might have been more than that, like

786
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot of big plays, but it wasn't consistent, and

787
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: I think that's partly because of the running game. Gino

788
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: made a couple of bad decisions early got away with

789
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: UH and then he played really well. But they they're

790
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: they're just if their their defense will see. I'm a

791
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: little nervous, but Dan Mike White had eight of those

792
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: throws today. Just let you know, look at that. I'm

793
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: still tabulating, but I believe it's close to them. God

794
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: has intends Seattle also has a bad call go against them,

795
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: all right? Can we move on? This is just one

796
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: of the key. The key, we leave the door just

797
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: a little bit. He just comes in open. He just

798
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: takes the door off the hinges and throws it off.

799
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: And I would say, you had the ball near midfield

800
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: and overtime needing a field goal. Absolutely, so let's watch

801
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: you ever stopped talking the overturned fumball by Jacobs? Where

802
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: or they called forward progress? You watched it? I think

803
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: was one of the most controvers Sunday that they did

804
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: not allow what appeared to be a pretty clear fumble

805
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: by Jacobs because they said forward projects neighbor like in

806
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: the summer when the windows are all opening Greg's house.

807
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's try something. Can you imagine living with me?

808
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's pause, nobody say anything for five seconds. Greg,

809
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: don't jump in, and then we're gonna go to break. Ready, okay,

810
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: for this podcast is progress. We'll be right back. M

811
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: all right, welcome back, and the Cleveland Browns welcome Tom

812
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Brady into their house. How would it turn out? Let's

813
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: check it out, mccointed pro back to pass. He's got time,

814
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: he's up on the pocket, he's got an open field.

815
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: He should have fifteen, he should have ten. He he died.

816
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: He is ten touchdown, sixteen yard touchdown run by Colt McCoy. Yeah,

817
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: that was just a little pre Christmas present for Mark Sessler,

818
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: the fabled if you listen to this podcast a lot

819
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: two thousand ten Patriots Browns game that Mark talks about constantly,

820
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the Colt McCoy going in in the only time that

821
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had lost to the Cleveland Browns in his

822
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: long and winding career. I mean, that was that the slowest,

823
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: like fifteen yard touchdown? Scare you seen? You need to

824
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: say that now in a moment of celebrations. So that

825
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: was Mark's favorite moment in this rivalry. But Tom Brady

826
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: again having trouble with the Browns today. Per set, under

827
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: each center, they give the ball to Chub. He's driving

828
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: for the call line he is, He's in, He's in.

829
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: Touchdown Chub Bronzon winners. They ran right behind James Hudson,

830
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: right up the gut with the best running back in

831
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: the league. What a comeback when your season was on

832
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: the line. I'm sorry it was Josh Jacobson this game.

833
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: Jim Donovan in two thousand ten, Jim Donovan in two

834
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two, because Nick Chubb scored on a

835
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: three yard run with nineteen seconds left in overtime and

836
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Jake Brisket's final start. Somebody's tweeted

837
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: at maybe the other I think yesterday, like how could

838
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: you work for the NFL and not even know Jacoby

839
00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: Brisset's real name? Twitter is the playground of idiots. Anyway,

840
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: Jake Brisket's final start before Deshaun Watson's return seventeen win

841
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: over the Bucks and afterwards Brissette and he really played

842
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: admirably throughout this entire run. He got the game ball. Uh,

843
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: and he had this to say after the game. I

844
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: mean it's in no disrespect, uh, but in the words

845
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady, that was awesome. That was awesome. Hard

846
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: not to root for that guy. Nick Shook the pipe

847
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: who joins us now one of Ohio's brightest sons and

848
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: shook I know you, um, I know. This has been

849
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: a difficult time for Cleveland Browns fans and it's about

850
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: to get weird on some level depending on your outlook

851
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: when Watson comes back next week. But what a nice

852
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: way for the Jake Briskett era to end. Huh, A

853
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: nice way. I'm I still can't get over the Cultkoy

854
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: flash back there that was was completely shot. It's very pleasant,

855
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, a great way for him to go out

856
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: and and you know, I mean statistically it's been a

857
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: career year for him and it obviously puts the amount

858
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: of lower ceiling offensively, but they produced a good amount

859
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: of points with him at quarterback. He's played very well

860
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: and and you're right, what what a way to go

861
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: out to beat a quarterback who used to be you know,

862
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: you used to serve as an understudy for in New England.

863
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Really a poetic ending and an unlikely outcome. I mean,

864
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: so many things have to go right for the Browns

865
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: for them to even be in this position. David and Joko,

866
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: who has drawn the ire of Browns fans in the

867
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: past for having inconsistent hands, makes the catch of his

868
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: life one handed on fourth and ten with the game

869
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: on the line, just to get them to overtime and

870
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: then they're able to hit along completion. It was a

871
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: strange game. Uh, the weather wasn't good. It wasn't terrible,

872
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: but it wasn't good and they come away victorious. That's

873
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, we I forked him last weekend

874
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: That doesn't change anything, but it is a nice little

875
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: pleasant game for for Browns fans and for Cleveland to

876
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: be happy about something, especially after what happened in college

877
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: football yesterday. So, uh, it was weird, but it's a

878
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: in for the Browns. Nogeglass Cleveland this season, along with

879
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: their offense being productive. I know they seemed sometimes like

880
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: opening drive magic and then they'll go to sleep. But

881
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: the issue has been defense wire to wire, and I

882
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: just wanted to see the Bucks coming out of Germany

883
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: where they were so balanced against the Seahawks. They ran

884
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: the ball really well. They put up seventeen points today.

885
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Was that more about Cleveland's defense finally looking competent um

886
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: and not totally lost on the ocean or is this

887
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: just the Bucks offense going back to what we had

888
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: seen prior to the Seahawks tilt. I think it's more

889
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: of the ladder, a lot of deep shots testing Martin Emerson,

890
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: the rookie in one on one situations with Mike Evans,

891
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: drew some p I calls, but actually Emerson didn't allow

892
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: a single reception for Evans in the day. Uh. It

893
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: was an offense that seemed almost a little too confident

894
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: in the past, it didn't rely on the run as much.

895
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: You gotta give some credit to the Browns who have

896
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: been terrible against the run this season. They really stuffed

897
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Rashad White as the lead back in that in that offense.

898
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I anticipated him for break, to break a hundred yards

899
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: and run all over the Browns and and they end

900
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: up winning by one score or whatever, and that's just

901
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: not what happened. So they did play better, especially in

902
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: the second half when they needed stops. And again, like

903
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, that's been the story of the Brown's

904
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: offense this entire season. You have a great opening script,

905
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: you get a touchdown, you take the kick off because

906
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: you know you received start the game because you know

907
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: you have a good game plan, and then they just

908
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: fall flat. They showed a graphic during this game forty

909
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: four minutes between possessions and three of their losses, between

910
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns and three their losses, And they were over forty

911
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: four minutes today before they scored again. That's what made

912
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: it so weird is the fact that they were able

913
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: to somehow wake up and go down the field, and

914
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: it was a lengthy drive that they had to put

915
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: together to then go score and send it to overtime.

916
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, credit to the defense. Joe Woods has been

917
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: under fire all year and and at times they look

918
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: bad again. But I think it's more in the box

919
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, at least just based on history.

920
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: It's like we're talking about that Seattle game, and you know,

921
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't do that well putting up enough

922
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: points I think against Seattle. But there was a stretch

923
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: in the second half here after the Bucks went up

924
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: seventeen ten, they got the ball seven more times. That's

925
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: almost an entire game's worth of drives. They didn't score

926
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: point obviously, because it was seventeen and they had six

927
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: first downs in those seven drives, they had yards, They

928
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: had multiple chances to win the game. They couldn't do it.

929
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Like that is a sickening loss if you're a Bucks fan,

930
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: and if you're Tom Brady and trying to believe that

931
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: this offense has is turning some sort of corner. To

932
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: go seven scoreless drives. They didn't even turn the ball over.

933
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: They were just bad to end this game. Yeah, and

934
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: they you know, at a certain point, um, you don't

935
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: want to make it um too simplified, but they just

936
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: don't score enough points this team, and you look at

937
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule this year and I'm just

938
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: let's go back since Week five, eighteen three sixteen in

939
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: a wine and a win, and now seventeen and overtime loss,

940
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: and we're deep enough into the season where it's like, oh,

941
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: look out here, because this might just be a limited offense.

942
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: Tristan Worth suffered what looked like a terrible leg injury,

943
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: so they're left hack stalwart. Very good chance that he's

944
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: done until three and shook. I know with the Browns,

945
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: they're the same as the Raider. They're they're interesting when

946
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: you compare them to the Raiders, another a f C

947
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: team that's four and seven that is used up all

948
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: of their um rope as it were, like what they

949
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: have no margin for every here. But even if the

950
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: playoffs are a pipe dream with DeShawn Watson, they do

951
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: get a lay up next week against the Texans. They're

952
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a berserker down the stretch because they play

953
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: teams tough. They've hung in almost every game this season.

954
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to face the Browns. It gives this

955
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: brown the fan based constellation because they have a reason

956
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: to watch the Browns even if they don't have a

957
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: shot to make the playoffs, because you get kind of

958
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: a trial with Watson going into the next season, and

959
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Mangini type run where you win

960
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: your last four and carry some momentum into the off

961
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: season like he did with the Browns. Those Browns, by

962
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the way, those same Browns back in the day. Uh,

963
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: And maybe that's how they got a positive moment the

964
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: next year. I just say, what do you say, like,

965
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: Eric Vanini carried all that momentum? I think you gotta,

966
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: But you know it wasn't a great ending. No, No,

967
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Like the next thing, I know you're gonna say that

968
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: the week after that Patriots game, the Jets walked him

969
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: off and overtime I forgot and sent the Browns down

970
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: to death. The Browns beat the world champion defending Saints.

971
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: We do have maybe a title for this episode. It's

972
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: like rise of the three and seven teams that are

973
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: better than their record. Jaguars, Raiders, Browns. They all sort

974
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: of deserved one worthy. It's like a little worthy, but

975
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: they all deserved one, and they all got four and seven.

976
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: Heaven seal it, sign it, deliver it, Shookie, you want

977
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: to stay on for another game. We'd love to have you. Absolutely,

978
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: let's keep moving Herbert from the shotgun, win or lose.

979
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Eckler goes in motion Herbert to pass, but it's stood.

980
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: It stood Herbert Gerald ritts and they take a one

981
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: point lead. A double slant you had Keenan Allen going first,

982
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: He drew all the attention right high, and Gerald Everett

983
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: with a lay up touchdown for two point conversion fifteen

984
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: seconds on the clock. Fortune favors the bold all listen,

985
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: all right, oh yeah, all right, the bolts bongos, the

986
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: bolts bongoes. Listen to the resin and Matt money Smith's

987
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: voice waits like a Tom Broke as unannounced child, unannounced,

988
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: just like we don't know the history, but it feels

989
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: two teams went for two when they had a chance

990
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: to kick an extra point and go to overtime. Today

991
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: both those teams won their football games. Justin Herbert, who

992
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: certain people will tell you is a social media quarterback.

993
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: Through three touchdown passes without an I n T, including

994
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: that game winner to Gerald Evitt on the two point conversion,

995
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: and the Chargers escape with a win over the Cardinals,

996
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: who show how about that? The Chargers six and five

997
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: and a huge win and for the Cardinals a stomach

998
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: punch loss that they're probably not going to recover from.

999
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, Cliff Kingsbury has talked about this on The

1000
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in season multiple times, how there's there's opportunities

1001
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: in front of them, and yet this was a huge

1002
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: wasted opportunity. They had three possessions in the fourth quarter

1003
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: alone where all they needed to do was pick up

1004
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: a few first downs and take some of that clock

1005
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: and take some of the time off the clock, you know,

1006
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: just bleed the clock, keep the ball out of the

1007
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: Charger's hands. Each time they went three and out, they came.

1008
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: They gained a combined sixteen yards in those three possessions.

1009
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: Twice they got the defensive stops. It looked like the

1010
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Chargers couldn't get anywhere near within scoring range. And then

1011
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: they gave him the third opportunity. And it was that

1012
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: third opportunity when they sit back upon it, this is it.

1013
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: This is when they're gonna on score and win the game,

1014
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: because you know, you only get so many opportunities in

1015
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: those situations. Justin Herbert goes down, it's kind of a

1016
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: short drive. But they convert and then great play calling

1017
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: for the two point conversion. Nice little motion out of

1018
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: the backfield, distracted linebackers, get a trail over the middle,

1019
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett wide open for the two point conversion. It

1020
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they blew it. They blew their opportunity to

1021
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: win this game. And it doesn't fall on their defense.

1022
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Their defense did the job twice. It falls on Cliff

1023
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and their inability to scheme even one first down

1024
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: in the final quarter of this game. And that right

1025
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: there is the story of this Cardinals team the entire season.

1026
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Opportunities wasted throughout the year. It was just shocking ending

1027
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: not just because of you know, the two point conversion,

1028
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: attempting and actually hitting it, which which the Chargers have

1029
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: struggled in those situations, in these short yardage where they

1030
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down. They just haven't been

1031
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: a good team there. It was shocking because until the

1032
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, the Cardinals looked like the better team. They

1033
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: were getting everything that they wanted offensively. You mentioned they

1034
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: kept going three and out like before that. It felt

1035
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray was doing everything he wanted to do

1036
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: and the Chargers defense had no answers whatsoever. And then

1037
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: it just totally flipped on a dime, Like the Chargers

1038
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: worked so much harder for their points in this game

1039
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: than the Cardinals did for their points. But the Cardinals

1040
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: kind of in a you're gonna find a way to

1041
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: lose off between these two teams who who both It

1042
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: felt like loser energy frankly from both of these teams,

1043
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals had had more loser energy, big loser energy.

1044
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: By That's my only thing I would say about it.

1045
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: It's great comment. Anything else, well, the only time that

1046
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: there was any winning energy was on the two point conversion.

1047
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: That was it even that one. That was great that

1048
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: they went for it, But it was shocking how easy

1049
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: it was. I don't know what Isaiah Simmons was doing

1050
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: on that play. If they knew that was the matchup

1051
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: they were going to get every on Simmons. Simmons is

1052
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: just sitting five yards into the end zone and barely

1053
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: makes a movement. Have you ever seen an easier two

1054
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: point conversion? It was just pitch and catch. It was

1055
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: very strange it was he did on he was he

1056
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: had outside leverage right, he bites on the outside fake

1057
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: as if he's not already in position to play on that.

1058
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: It was bad defense from then. But yeah, what is

1059
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: the argument for Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray as a

1060
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: duo to exist beyond the season. I think I think

1061
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: it's about how much money the ownership group is willing

1062
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: to put into a new experiment. Yeah, I think if

1063
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: it keeps going like this, I think maybe at one

1064
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: of the bid Wills were looking at the news and

1065
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: they saw Matt Rule just got a ten billion dollar

1066
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: contract from Nebraska, and all that offset money disappears. You know,

1067
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the Panthers don't have to worry about anymore. Assuming the

1068
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: language is similar in Kingsbury's because you know, he'll get

1069
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: a job in college whenever he wants. Uh, I wonder

1070
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: about Santa Barbara, Cliff, I don't know you got that

1071
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: thing about colleges. He'll get a big time job. I know. Yeah,

1072
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't deny that, Like that's not you know, I

1073
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: named in a different color than Spice Track likes to

1074
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: point out he failed, like his record in the NFL

1075
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: is literally better than it was in college. Well, you

1076
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: terrible defenses would be that like that. He came in

1077
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: with some pedigree of like we don't know what offense

1078
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: is going to run what happened to o s U

1079
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: since you you mentioned it, the Michigan pants them as

1080
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: I understand. Um oh, I say, fans will hate me

1081
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: for this, but I tweeted about it and I've been

1082
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: getting lit up about it since then. I think that

1083
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: they need to start considering a new coach because in

1084
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties there was a coach named John Cooper

1085
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: who could recruit rate and he could never beat Michigan.

1086
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: If you can't be a Michigan, you're never going to

1087
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: contend for a national title. And that's starting to look

1088
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: like Ryan Day. Go get urban minds. Two years just

1089
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: two years. I mean they had, I know, let's bring

1090
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: them back. But the fashion, Gregg, the fashion in which

1091
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: they lost is bad. Greg. Do you have a college

1092
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: take care you push them back on this. I'm just

1093
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: saying it seems emotional. They didn't lose it. It just

1094
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: has fourteen TVs in front of them on Saturday and

1095
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: one and they you know, they lost one game. It's

1096
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: only two games here that you may not have your

1097
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: hand on the pulse of Ohio on that one. I'm

1098
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: just saying, if you're agreeing with Albert Briers, Ohio State takes,

1099
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: You're probably got the wrong takes. Whoa, whoa. I'm not agreeing.

1100
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm putting my own out there. Speaking of takes, I

1101
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: had a hard take against the the club in England,

1102
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 1: the Three Lines Club, and I said, oh, just watch

1103
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: out t m USA. You're never gonna beat us. You

1104
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: never have and you never will. Very quiet. Didn't hear

1105
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: a lot from the English listeners to where they were.

1106
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: They were they felt like a moral victory for England

1107
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: to get a tie in that game. Anyway, you know,

1108
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: it also was a moral victory. By the way, when

1109
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: I locked up the Chargers. You know what I have

1110
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: to say this, You said, this is your quote to

1111
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: me after the game. Quote Your joy in this moment

1112
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: weakens me. That's because you know what it is. It

1113
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: wasn't he He wasn't even he wasn't gloating you and I, Mark,

1114
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: we lose on a two point conversion. This son of

1115
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: a wins on a two point conversion. Yeah, it was

1116
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: cloathing energy and he was just but he was just

1117
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: so happy, exactly. I just wanted to take the monitor

1118
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: and just just crush and just take the happiness out

1119
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: of him. About and what they our relationship and I'm

1120
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: a monster and then yeah, you said, yeah, someone had

1121
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: a great take on that, that that you want to

1122
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: be the hero in someone's life, but you first you

1123
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: want to put them on the ground before you could

1124
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: become the hero, was like manufactured. Yeah, I wasn't sure

1125
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: what what Jason. I think we we traffic in bits

1126
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: about darkness all the time, but I'm not sure if

1127
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: you understood j that people might not understand the context

1128
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: there unless that's something I actually do. Do well, you

1129
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: need to, but I don't even know what that means.

1130
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I think you could take just I don't I don't

1131
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: suggest that you do that, but maybe just in your

1132
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: own personal time and in the middle of the night,

1133
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: just explore the comment versus shooting it down on the

1134
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: show right now, just sort of explore it, because I'm

1135
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: not saying, by the way that I agree with Jason.

1136
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: Someone I think that's a I don't know what he's doing.

1137
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: Explore why you want to be with a computer and

1138
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: what that comes. Because afterwards, when the Seahawks one the

1139
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks lost, you were like, well, at least we've got

1140
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: that that will humble you a little bit, and make

1141
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: you not feel as good. But you're you're wrong actually

1142
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: because I had locked up the Seahawks originally and I

1143
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: switched off the lock. That's the switch of the year. Um.

1144
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: If you want to know why I felt that way,

1145
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: just asked the other person sitting next to you who

1146
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: felt the same way. And then wonder why all those

1147
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: people around you just want to crush your head with

1148
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: a mom It's mostly just you too. This is where

1149
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: we need we need West to balance it out. I

1150
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: have a parting word. I'm glad that it was one

1151
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: of those rare moments where I'm glad that my monitors

1152
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: are miles away from there. He goes, Nick shook, thank

1153
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: you very much the pipe. And while we're talking about locks,

1154
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I should have mentioned the Cincinnati Zoo locked up the

1155
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: j E. T S Jets Jets Jets via Twitter late

1156
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: in the week, but got it in in time. Per post,

1157
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: the line moving past locks on that is a great question.

1158
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: I think it was before because we thought Fields was

1159
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: question fields with questionable. I believe it was a six

1160
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: point line at that. I mean, I think it speaks volumes.

1161
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: Mark said at all. Is this the new one? It is?

1162
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of honking from the zoo about like

1163
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: bold picks and things we're taking. You're blocking against Trevor

1164
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: City in the road. I like this. This is an upgrade.

1165
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: All right. Let's move on now to the game that

1166
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the matchup of the year on paper,

1167
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: I think ends light on paper in motion Jody forts

1168
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: in right to left fake Candeco backing up further, is

1169
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes guns it over the middle court twenty yard line,

1170
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: in the fifteen yard line, England. You said with the

1171
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: block ten five, Kelsey stretches out for the end zone touchdown.

1172
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: Teren Just City, Patrick Mahomes to Travis Kelsey the best

1173
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: tight end in National Football League history? Oh, Mitch hold

1174
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Us getting in the debate that we began last Sunday night.

1175
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about who is the best tight end ever?

1176
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey certainly in the discussion as he continues to

1177
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: put up numbers um that we've rarely seen at the position.

1178
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: He had a touchdown, the only touchdown throw from Patrick Mahomes.

1179
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: But nobody had to do much against this Rams team

1180
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: right now. Win for the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Bryce Perkins

1181
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: played quarterback in this one. Mark Sessler it's if they

1182
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: when they scheduled this, they thought we were going to

1183
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: get some version of the Rams that simply does not

1184
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: exist on one side of the ball. Right now, Bryce

1185
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: Perkins taking snaps, running all over the place. His scrambling

1186
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: ability is his offering what he offers as an asset,

1187
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: very little else. But you're throwing to two two at well,

1188
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: Karen Williams is running the ball. It's just like, this

1189
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: is a completely different cast of characters, and I kind

1190
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: of give the Rams defense um some credit. Uh. Jalen

1191
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Ramsey was absolutely fried on that one Travis Kelsey touchdown,

1192
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: and it's like the eighteenth Week and Roy feel like

1193
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's doing something where it's like, I'm sorry, who,

1194
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: what's your your Jalen Ramsey? Are you a post version

1195
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: of Jalen Ramsey? But they stopped, They stopped the Chiefs

1196
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: um and they held into field goals on drives that

1197
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: ended at the Rams three, four, nine, and thirteen. So

1198
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: the red zone defense showed up. Uh. Aaron Donald caused

1199
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of problems, but it's kind of like the

1200
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs were able to just go through the motions. Andy

1201
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: Reid seemed a little irritated coming out a halftime. He

1202
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: thought that there are issues of the red zone. He

1203
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: called it terrible, and yet that didn't unlock them for

1204
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: thirty something second half points. This was just sort of

1205
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: on the journey of this season. Patrick Mahomes still did

1206
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: beautiful things. He had an end zone interception and was

1207
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: kept at bay a little bit by the Rams, but

1208
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: they still got it done. And in the end, like

1209
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: the Rams are a non functional offense that also came

1210
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: into the game with no Allen Robinson, so just it's

1211
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: a it's a bare cupboard Robinson who needs surgery a

1212
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: stress reaction in his foot. So his deeply disappointing first

1213
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: season with the Rams is over. We'll see what his

1214
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: future is in Los Angeles. And this is the first

1215
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: five game losing streak ever for the Rams under Sean McVeagh.

1216
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and what was a unfortunate snapshot of their

1217
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: season as a whole, gets absolutely clocked on the sideline

1218
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: by one of his own players running onto the field,

1219
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: had a swollen jaw and for the rest of the

1220
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: game after that, And yeah, the Chiefs, this is one

1221
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: of those games where they didn't have to do much.

1222
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: It was the old Milton Borough routine. Just show enough

1223
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: to win, and that's what they did. And they're nine

1224
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: and two and the Rams cannot get to January Fest enough.

1225
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: I think Sean McVeigh is gonna I wouldn't say black eye,

1226
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be some some issues there tomorrow when

1227
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: he wakes up in the skin and then especially watches

1228
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: the tape and sees who did it to him and

1229
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: the guy's no longer on the teams. There was a

1230
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: report that from ESPN that Stafford's questionable to return the

1231
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: rest of this season, which is more just confirming what

1232
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. And we'll talk Rams in the off season.

1233
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: But I think the number one thing is is Stafford

1234
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna play next year? Is Aaron don I'm gonna play

1235
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: next year? Is Sean McVeigh gonna be back. It's crazy

1236
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: that they have these all these games to run out

1237
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: the string here and now it's without Robinson. That injury

1238
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: happened on on Friday. It it's just depressing. I would

1239
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: have liked to see a little more out of Pacheco

1240
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: in the running game. It's like this is almost a

1241
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: game you can work on some things, and I think

1242
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna need their running game, and I like the

1243
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: way Pacheco runs, but they weren't particularly efficient running the

1244
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: ball today. And I think the defense did show up.

1245
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't. You can't just do what you

1246
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: want against Darren Donald. And and also you know how

1247
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: it is. And so sometimes in these type of games

1248
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: where it's such a mismatch and one of the teams

1249
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: is so down low, usually because it's one of those

1250
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: Murphy Law seasons, you don't maybe the team that wins

1251
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: doesn't get all the way up, it doesn't have that

1252
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: same energy to it, and you just kind of just

1253
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: take care of it. Had a lead early. I don't

1254
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: like the whole greatest tight end of all time things,

1255
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: just like putting it on him recency bias, when for

1256
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: most of his career everyone would recognize he wasn't the

1257
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: best tight end the league. I would say he's not

1258
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: the best tight end in Chief's history. That'd be Tony

1259
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: Gonzalez a lot more first team All pros. You have

1260
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: other guys in that division, Kevin Winslow, you know, Shannon Sharp,

1261
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, Like, is he getting to be in that mix? Kelsey,

1262
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: I would say would be in that mix. But to

1263
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: just like put him all over all these guys because

1264
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of good weeks seems genus correct.

1265
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: Knew rights. He's had a tremendous career, But I think

1266
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: this year is starting to put him up with those guys.

1267
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: But there's no reason why he's suddenly like zoomed past

1268
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: all that guys. That's all. And I'll use one of

1269
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: your own patriots in this argument. I think one thing

1270
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: helping Kelsey is as he's getting deeper into his thirties,

1271
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: he's remaining elite, just like Brady put everyone in the

1272
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: dust because he stayed great for an extra five, seven,

1273
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: eight nine years. Now, um, maybe this is Kelsey. What's

1274
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: going to separate him? As he's a high end that's

1275
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: fair to he stacks two or three more years like this,

1276
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 1: then it's kind of crazy, all right. Now to let's

1277
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: move to a matchup between two NFC teams with playoff

1278
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: aspirations Atlanta Washington. The loser in bad shape, the winner

1279
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: feeling good. Let's see what happens. So I guess that's

1280
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: every game within them when you look at it through

1281
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: the prism of the NFC playoff race, especially so I

1282
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: think you explained it well all right? Back to pass,

1283
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: is Mariott both tipped it in the air and is

1284
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: it picked off? In the end of the Commander said,

1285
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: I picked it off? Did Kendall Fuller get it? Waiting

1286
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: for the single reception? Kendall Fuller. Kendall Fuller is hanging

1287
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: out for dear life. He realizes how huge this is.

1288
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: The entire stadium is on their feet, realizing Watchington just

1289
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: might have saved the game, saved the game, maybe saved

1290
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: the season. Bram Weinstein with the call. Who was that

1291
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: also because it wasn't London Fletcher, Julie Donaldson, Julie Donaldson

1292
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: as well of course w B I G And it

1293
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: was Theron pay and getting his big paw up, get

1294
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: the big meat hook up, putting the ball in the

1295
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: air and then Kendall Fuller coming down with an intercepting

1296
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Mario Mariotte in the end zone of fifty eight

1297
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: seconds to play. And man, it doesn't get bigger than

1298
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: that because it goes from the opportunity with Cordonell Patterson

1299
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: by the way in your backfield, it just runs people

1300
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: over in the goal line. Jesus Christ, you and you

1301
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: instead drop back to pass, and instead of a twenty

1302
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: to nineteen win, which seemed very possible in that moment,

1303
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: you lose nineteen thirteen and that is six wins in

1304
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: seven games for the Commanders. You just gotta give it

1305
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: up to this team. And Fuller sealed the game this

1306
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: week with a pick. He had a pick six last

1307
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: week at Houston, and um, this is just a team

1308
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: that is finding its way here as the season goes on,

1309
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 1: and it's defense that's getting the job done. They still

1310
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: don't have Chase Young he they kept him down for

1311
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: another week, but we might see him next week. But

1312
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: you have a running game also now that is coming

1313
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: and really coming along. Brian Robinson I thought looked excellent.

1314
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: This was the Brian Robinson that we heard about and

1315
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: saw in the preseason eighteen for one oh five in

1316
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: this game, running hard, running fast, Washington take them seriously,

1317
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: there's seven and five. Now they are in the mix

1318
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: for real. And Robinson, you know, can catch the ball too.

1319
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: I thought this was you're right that, Like I was

1320
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: kind of watching this out the Cornmia standout game and

1321
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: their defense has been doing this week after week and

1322
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: it's that line. So it's kind of like what Ron

1323
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: Rivera sold you, And I feel like every Ron Rivera

1324
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: season has like the get out of the gates slowly. Um,

1325
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: we have issues and then we rip off four or

1326
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: five six straight wins. I mean, this Washington team has

1327
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: not won six of seven dating back to two thousand

1328
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: and twelve. It's been dark times. Um. I I think

1329
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna rise and fall with Taylor Heinekey. But I'm

1330
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: just sort of a tailor Heinekey fan. I'm not claiming

1331
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: that he's perfect, but he kind of fits on this team.

1332
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: And this is the one game where I thought he

1333
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: and Terry McLarin didn't quite make a ton of production

1334
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: together because of a j Terrell on the Falcons had

1335
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: had was on McClaren for most of the game and

1336
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: played one of his best out in all season. Let's

1337
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: be real, there's not much separating all these teams in

1338
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: the NFC. Washington keeps winning games like this, but now

1339
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: there is separation here between these two teams. Specifically the

1340
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: fact that the Washington gets to seven and five, it's

1341
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna be between them. Seattle, the Giants, and and maybe

1342
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are in that mix too. For the

1343
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: last five and then there's a pretty big drop off

1344
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: in the NFC to the teams that are two games

1345
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: under five hundred. So all those teams are going to

1346
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs except for one in Washington's put

1347
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: themselves in that position, and Washington has the Giants, then

1348
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: thereby then the Giants. That's very interesting because I do

1349
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: think these teams are very very close in terms of ability.

1350
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: In Washington, obviously, he's just playing better right now. So

1351
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: if I'm a Giant fan, I'm very nervous that my

1352
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: season is taking a hard left turn. In Atlanta, they

1353
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: both these teams ran the ball really well. Another game

1354
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: in the Northeast, not very good weather uh today, so

1355
01:08:55,160 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: it was wet, al jeered. We're getting close. We're getting close.

1356
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, calendars, it's the nomination. What's the holiday season?

1357
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: Two slows down? Um, I didn't want to be processing.

1358
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do not understand how the U. S. Mails operate,

1359
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: so I don't want to Also, definitely thanksgiving you an expertise,

1360
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: and that also the government with the cutbacks. Ironically, you

1361
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: know you take shots. You're saying, get rid of the

1362
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: post office. A few years ago. Uncle Sam's trying to

1363
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: help you despite some of the negative things you've said

1364
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: about the Pentagon. We'll see what happens if we can

1365
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: get to totally sound analysis on the Pentagon. But Washington

1366
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: ran thirty seven times for one seventy six in this game,

1367
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: Atlanta for one sixty seven. But Atlanta, you know, they're

1368
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: playing without Kyle Pitts, and Mariota again makes the killer mistake.

1369
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: It was like a little tip pass. I mean, it's

1370
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: crazy how these players come down to him. Do what

1371
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: do we need to defend Mark? That was a tip pass.

1372
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: But these games come down to like one play or

1373
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: two plays, and it wasn't really just that tip pass.

1374
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: The play before it, they got a free rusher James

1375
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: Smith Williams in on Mariota and Monte Sweat ended up

1376
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: cleaning it up. You had first and goal at the

1377
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: two with one ten left. There you have Washington over

1378
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: a barrel. You're totally expecting you're the Falcons to be

1379
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: able to run that in and you end up losing

1380
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: two yards on the first play because of in Mariota

1381
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: ends up eating it for a couple of yards lost,

1382
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 1: and then they feel like the need to throw the

1383
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: ball and surprise him. That's a little that's a little surprising. Yeah,

1384
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 1: and uh. In other Washington Commanders news, they unveiled a

1385
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: Seawan Taylor memorial. Taylor, of course, the the great safety

1386
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: who was shot to death in two thousand seven at

1387
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: the height of his career. And it's just crazy with

1388
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: this organization that they just can't seem to get anything right.

1389
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: They had Sean Taylor's family there and they have a

1390
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,440
Speaker 1: big curtain over what is the centerpiece of the memorial.

1391
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: They pull the curtain off, the covering off, and it's

1392
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: um a manic in in you know, a Seawan Taylor uniform,

1393
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: a wire mannequin behind glass and it's not even an

1394
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,919
Speaker 1: official uniform. It's mismatch. It's a Nike top but Reebok

1395
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: pants and then Soccer World Cup cleats and um in general,

1396
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: it just you even if you watch the video of it,

1397
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: you could see Taylor's family and even they seem to

1398
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: have a look like, um, well, I think the videos

1399
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: said it all because the entire was a large crowd

1400
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: there and it it it left um a lot of

1401
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: mystified gazes at the and even like right down to

1402
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: the fact, obviously we know what happened with the team

1403
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: name change. So they just have him an old Redskins

1404
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: uniform there with the helmet and the logo and everything.

1405
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: It's like, we couldn't make we couldn't build that man

1406
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: a bronze statue and put out out in front. This

1407
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: is what you come up with. It's just they never

1408
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: seem to get it right this organization. Maybe that changes

1409
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: in the future when some ownership changes happen, but right now,

1410
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: be better, not good enough. But they were good enough

1411
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: on the field today. And Ron Rivera, who a guy

1412
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: that we were burying, the guy we were saying it's

1413
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: time for them to find new leadership. He's doing a

1414
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: good job there too. He does this every time. Alright.

1415
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: Let us move on to Charlotte, where the Caroline and

1416
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: Panthers had yet another starting quarterback, and Russell Wilson. Oh

1417
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson shock gunn snapped Donald quarterback keeper off the

1418
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: football has to dive on it and nobody I'm not

1419
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: sure anybody touched Sam Donald. Right, that might be a

1420
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: touchdown run, the option fumble and an army roll into

1421
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: the game so heavy. That is Sam Donald football right there.

1422
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: You don't count out Sam Donald, Jordan Gross, Gross and

1423
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley on the call about that w BT. Sam

1424
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: Donald threw a touchdown pass, ran for one, but actually

1425
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: recovered for a second score, and the Panthers used their

1426
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: defense from there to get by the Denver Broncos twenty

1427
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: three to ten. Uh this game. We don't need to

1428
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: spend a ton of time on this one, Greg, But

1429
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: like I've got seventeen minutes, here we go. What do

1430
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: you got? What was your takeaway on Donald's debut. He

1431
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: played well. He especially got confident in the second half.

1432
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: He didn't do much in the first half. He had

1433
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: a nice throw down the field the DJ more when

1434
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: Donald plays or or Walker. They actually used d J Moore,

1435
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: who who beat Certan a number of times in this game,

1436
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: which you're just not used the scene. So that was nice.

1437
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: And he didn't make any mistakes. They've just punted a lot,

1438
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: and eventually he started playing with confidence in the second

1439
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: half and he was fine. But it was more about

1440
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: the defense. It was more about Russell Wilson. We keep

1441
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: thinking we get to new lows for the Broncos and

1442
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: then we we get lower, so I I will just

1443
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: quickly run through like the options for new lows in

1444
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: this game. One option they had negative one yard passing

1445
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 1: with four minutes left in the first half. Another option,

1446
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: they ran the ball on third and twenty because they

1447
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: didn't trust for us. Uh, then got the ball back

1448
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: on a fumbled punt, and then did not let Russell

1449
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: Wilson throw the ball even once on the ensuing drive,

1450
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: even though they kind of had a third in medium

1451
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: and they just kicked the field goal. They're only points

1452
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: in this game came on a touchdown that happened after

1453
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: roughing the passer that would have ended the drive in

1454
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: a field goal on a short field where they essentially

1455
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: got ten yards and kicked it. Uh. Let's see, we

1456
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: had Mike Purcell, the defensive lineman, yelling at him at

1457
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: one point in the game, and UM, I think that's

1458
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: reaction to that. Purcell came off the field after a

1459
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: field goal, uh drive by Carolina, and UM, you could

1460
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: say he was imploring Russell Wilson to do something, but

1461
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure the language is more color full. Wilson was

1462
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: asked about it after the game. Mike and I are

1463
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: on the same page, you know, Um, he came off,

1464
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: you know, after they had to kick the field goal,

1465
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: and he he was he was piste off. He was

1466
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: just said, we gotta we gotta f and go, you know,

1467
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I agree. You know, so me and him

1468
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: on the same page. We you know, where's there's no uh,

1469
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: there's no animosity there at all. We're on the same page.

1470
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: We we we gotta win, you know, we gotta come

1471
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: out here and have some uh some some grid to us,

1472
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: some mentality to us. We gotta be able to win

1473
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: these you know, these these these football games. You're shaking

1474
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: your head. Well, I just I am waiting for the moment.

1475
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: Tell me if I missed it where Russell Wilson at

1476
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: least it's sort of like in a human being fashion,

1477
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: you'll be waiting a while, like acknowledges that this has

1478
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: been a disaster and that there's a lot to do

1479
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: because I outside of what we sort of say about

1480
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: the Cardinals week to week with looming issues personnel wise,

1481
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: and what you're gonna do going into next season, like

1482
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: this is the darkest unfixable quarterback situation in the league.

1483
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: Because you're stuck with this and I see no litter's

1484
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: literally zero row signpost that tells me, actually, this is

1485
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: a bump in the road. It's a gigantic bump the

1486
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: road like an earthquake hit. So it's an opposite of

1487
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: a bump. It's like chasom But how do you get

1488
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: out of it? Chasm? I say chasom um. But wait

1489
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 1: a second, wait a second. You're right. It would perhaps

1490
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: be helpful for Russell Wilson to acknowledge what everyone else sees.

1491
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: We are terrible, but we're gonna fix this thing. But

1492
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 1: that I don't think that's how his brain works. Positivity

1493
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: that's allowed, So I think that that's that might be

1494
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: part of the frustration that his teammates have for him.

1495
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: And also to what you're saying about the quarterback situation. Yeah,

1496
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: it's a bit of an unsolvable riddle for this organization

1497
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen. Unfortunately, I don't think. I

1498
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: mean you always, every once in a while there is

1499
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: a guy that's one and done, and it's pretty clear

1500
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: by Black Monday, Nathaniel Hackett. I don't think there's any

1501
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: way he saves his job. I think he's gonna be

1502
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: cooked in part because they know they have to make

1503
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: a big chain and it camp be the quarterback, so

1504
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the coach's head. Who rolls, and I

1505
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 1: feel for him. I know he he has a responsibility

1506
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: in this because he recruited Russell Wilson to come here

1507
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: and he has not. He's an offensive mind who has

1508
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: not been offensive mind. In fact, he had to give

1509
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: up the play calling duties. That hasn't worked out for

1510
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: the team either. But Greg, there's like so many things

1511
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: negative around this team, but Wilson refuses to be negative,

1512
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: and I think it's the coach who pays. Ultimately, I

1513
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: agree they have six games left. I'm always wary of

1514
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: declaring too much about coaching because I've seen guys like

1515
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: Doug Morone win the last two Actually he didn't even

1516
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: win the last two games of the year. They just

1517
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 1: played the Peyton Manning Colts close. Ones could change, the mind,

1518
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: could change, can change, but they've just shown no signs

1519
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: of life. Like another option that it could have had

1520
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: for the lowest moment here was after they got that

1521
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: one touchdown, which only came because you know, the drive

1522
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: extended with penalty they getting on side kicking. The game

1523
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: is probably over at that point anyways, and then Russell

1524
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: Wilson just throws four straight incompletions. It was as ugly

1525
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: as it gets. Steve Books though three and three as

1526
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: interim head coach. I I heard even before this game

1527
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: some whispers that he has a real chance to keep

1528
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: this job if if they play hard the rest of

1529
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: the way, and they are certainly playing hard, they could

1530
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: be four and two. If not that for that crazy

1531
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: game against Atlanta, they held the ball for thirty seven minutes.

1532
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: They were dominant in this game, for what it's worth.

1533
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: On when Wilkes was in Cleveland as a defensive coordinator,

1534
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: like over and overheard, players love them, they love them

1535
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: in Carolina and most of his stops, it's like this

1536
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: dude is a good leader, and it's like he definitely

1537
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: deserves to get real interviews this type around. Because the

1538
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: Panthers were a disaster before this, it's easy to forget

1539
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: what was going on there, and he's milked some interesting

1540
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: performances on both sides of the ball. All right, let's

1541
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: take a break and we will roll on. Welcome back.

1542
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: We have a shutout alert. Let's head too. He looks middle,

1543
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: he will throw. Camara makes the catch, Kimara checks the ball.

1544
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: How does the look in the rob Rolling's got it?

1545
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: Three dollars. Let them get to the one yard line

1546
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: and then checked the ball away to keep the shutout intact.

1547
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: Man when Alba Kamara's failing near the goal on you know,

1548
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: it's not your season. And that is four straight second

1549
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: half shutouts for the Niners defense. And that was my

1550
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: guy Taler Noah who founda who forced that Kamara fumble

1551
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: that held back to New Orleans who has turned away

1552
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: repeatedly in the second half, and every attempt to get

1553
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: back into the game. Final score though thirteen nothing. The

1554
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: Niners roll on four straight wins, and um, greg, this

1555
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: is a game where the Niners were you know, we

1556
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: all were writing see poems uh to use assesslrism about

1557
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: their offense in the last couple of weeks and that

1558
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: wasn't quite locked in today, But what it did do

1559
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: was allow us to focus on the defense, which is

1560
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: also very good and deep and talented. And that's why

1561
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: this team is a legitimate Super Bowl contender, right because

1562
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: they're one of the few teams and I throw a

1563
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: Dallas in this mix that in any given week and

1564
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna need this over a seventeen game regular season schedule,

1565
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: you need in the playoffs to either side of the

1566
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: ball could dominate enough to win. I I'm a little

1567
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: stunned at the Saints defense. And I know they did

1568
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: get a lot of players back, seven players, most of

1569
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: which were starters, who missed last week's game for injury.

1570
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: We're back for this game, but I'm still kind of

1571
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: amazed the Saints defense held up. But you know what,

1572
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: this Forts defense has the capability to dominate upfront, especially

1573
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: like you can tell me, but like line play wise,

1574
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: I would have I guess they handed the Saints their lunch. Yep.

1575
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: The Saints were held to just sixty three yards on

1576
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: the ground. And you know, Andy Dalton has had some

1577
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: good moments this season, probably more bad than good, but

1578
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: if you're asking him to throw you to victory, it's

1579
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. In San Francisco. Their d is just

1580
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: again it's under the radar are because everyone's always talking

1581
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: about Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy g and all the weapons.

1582
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: But they haven't a lot of point in more than

1583
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: ninety four minutes of game action. Now and uh I

1584
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: mentioned that stat about four straight second halves without allowing point.

1585
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: They are the fifth team since nineteen UH to do that,

1586
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: So that's going back thirty years. So yeah, this is

1587
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: a team that's humming. Uh and they could do it

1588
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: and beat you in a lot of ways. Yeah, there aren't.

1589
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: There just aren't that many teams this season where to

1590
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: your point, Greg, like if the offense takes a little

1591
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: bit of a week off, well the defense just completely

1592
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: drops a hammer and dominates. I don't love that Elijah

1593
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell got hurt in this. I'll wait and see what

1594
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: happens with that. Uh. I just I look at the

1595
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Niners and feel like there might have been they seemed

1596
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: a little off on offense today and I you know,

1597
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: are a team that you were on the West coast

1598
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: against the Chargers night game, you had to stay on

1599
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: the west part of the country, go to Mexico City,

1600
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: come back and do this like that can throw you

1601
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: off a little bit. I mean, you're allowed to have

1602
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: a day like this. But they survived. I'm glad you

1603
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: brought the Mitchell injury because he is a really, really

1604
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: good player, and who knows it was a foot injury

1605
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: and he was Jaffrey went in and out too. Yeah,

1606
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: he was quickly ruled out. And so this this window

1607
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: where all of the top skill players were healthy and

1608
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: making making plays. Hopefully that didn't end today and it

1609
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: was just a brief two week opening. But at the

1610
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: same time, that might be the only thing that could

1611
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: save these other teams in the NFC because if if

1612
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: they do have it humming and they're healthy on both

1613
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: sides of the ball, look out in the Saints, they

1614
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: will march on into the off season. Greggy, Yeah, for

1615
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: in eight. I mean, when Andy Dawton is your leading rusher,

1616
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: you're probably not going going anywhere. It's all about the

1617
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Lobby's Rookie of the Year. I think Kaden Ellis has

1618
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of came out of nowhere and been one of

1619
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: the best defensive players in the league. I would say

1620
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: over the last month, just kind of dominating week after week.

1621
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: But that's that's all they're looking for. They are in

1622
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: the NFC South. I mean, there are only one win

1623
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: behind the Bucks. Now you normally think of like the

1624
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: lost column is more important, but in the NFC South

1625
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: it is so hard to get wins that it's crazy

1626
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: that Caroline is only one win behind Tampa. It's just

1627
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: a factors, is only one win behind Tap You get

1628
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: the people excited. I was gonna say, but are you

1629
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: actually making anybody else can win this division, and the Bucks.

1630
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: There's like a a fifteen percent chance that either the

1631
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: Panthers or the Falcons could win this division. Just something

1632
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: crazy happens in one of those two and popping. Yeah,

1633
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: it's funny chance. Um see, if I was such a

1634
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: bad guy, Greg, I would have moved on to the

1635
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: next game when, oh, yeah, you see, you set me

1636
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: up a few times ahead the Rainmaker came. You know,

1637
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: climate change is happening, the rain isn't out quite as

1638
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: much as it used to be. But we're four and

1639
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: one on this season. They covered the eight and a

1640
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: half point eight it that doesn't have to be pretty

1641
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: and a half, but they still covered. Okay, way, it

1642
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 1: was a fairly fortunate um victory for the Rainmaker if

1643
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: you watch the game. But at the same time, it

1644
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's you're still collecting. It doesn't matter, so

1645
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: everyone doesn't matter how you get there. I mean, four

1646
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: and one, that's an eight hundred winning percentage that would

1647
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: be leading the NFC. Set loss did sink a slew

1648
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: of families across the country that took your advice that

1649
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean that you can for my one loss on

1650
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: four out of five I'm just thinking fun of more

1651
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: micro level what it did to those favors. Some some

1652
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: people who traffic in that world only have the means

1653
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: for one wager. And if that was the one they made, well,

1654
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: boiler room, we're living at the y m c A. Now,

1655
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean we're not doing a weekly rainmaker. But that

1656
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: was also the week you went one and one, so

1657
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: you still got one right that way, Look at that,

1658
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Look at the thanks Justine. But again, you don't need

1659
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: West here, you have Justin. He's just facts, and the

1660
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: facts that are the Saints team in one way or another,

1661
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: feels like a dead team walking. Um. All right, one

1662
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: more game to get to uh and it features a

1663
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: team that is very much moribund. Back to throw, gets

1664
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: it off, he's got akins. What's gonna across a football

1665
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: picked up by the Dolphins saying in a hour walks

1666
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Futstop, Miami, I'll tell you what next.

1667
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: Man just gotta jog into the in zone for that

1668
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: touchdown that is going. What are the parabog Mike's picking

1669
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: up there? Is? It? Was it so easy to beat

1670
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: the Texans right now that the band in Miami just

1671
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: went full on into the music before even reach, like

1672
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: a return is that easy? Don't don't get hung up

1673
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: by the final score, which was thirty fifteen Dolphins over Texans,

1674
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: because this was a game that was thirty zip at

1675
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: the half. Dolphins take their foot off the accelerator and

1676
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: just coast home for another win. Um, their scheduled tightens

1677
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: up significantly, but you take care of business market, That's

1678
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: exactly what the Dolphins did here. Yeah, I mean, good

1679
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: teams go out and just hammer um failed operations, and

1680
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the Texans are repeatedly on the bottom end of these.

1681
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: Because this is we talked about last week how they

1682
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: were out gained two hundred and forty six yards to

1683
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: five in the first half today two hundred and eighty

1684
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: seven to thirty two. That is a combined five hundred

1685
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: and thirty three yards to thirty seven. This is an

1686
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: offense that generated thirty seven points over four first half

1687
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: quarters in two weeks. And so really it just set

1688
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: up plus you throw an interception that set up an

1689
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: easy Dolphins score. There was a fumble returned by Xavier Howard.

1690
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins basically were just handed about the easiest

1691
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 1: Sunday around. But you still saw that this offense is

1692
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: so dangerous right now. I mean, I think that I

1693
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: am done sleeping on this team. If I have it all,

1694
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: I think they could probably knock anyone out in any

1695
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: playoff game if you get the good version of tow

1696
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: one little note, Toronto Armstead went out with the went

1697
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: out with a pectoral injury. And after that happened to

1698
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 1: uh at one point, because you know, the game was

1699
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: so out of control, was like, should we just take

1700
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: two out? Minutes into the third quarter here Um, he

1701
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: was sacked free plays in a row. At one point

1702
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: he looked like he was sort of limping around a

1703
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: little so that he got He got yanked early. But

1704
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, along with Tom Pellicero, the pell Raiser um

1705
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: noted that that peck strain apparently is not as bad

1706
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: as originally feel feared. He could miss some time. But

1707
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: hope is the hope is that he won't quote be

1708
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: back on the field at some point relatively soon. That

1709
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: is huge for them. That is absolutely like a Damna

1710
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Janka piece. Sometimes when you hear that peck thing, immediately

1711
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: it's torn. And then at sea and next year, um, yeah,

1712
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: and like I said, next week they get on the road.

1713
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: Then they there there against the Charges, then the Bills

1714
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: and the Patriots and the Jets, like that's gonna We're

1715
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna learn a lot more about the Dolphins. Um, but

1716
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: the Texans have hit that stage of of moribund territory.

1717
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: It happens to a couple of teams every year where

1718
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: they just ceased to even exist as a as an

1719
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: outfit that can compete. Like Damian Pierce is a perfect example.

1720
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce is a running back who was having a

1721
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: great rookie year, but at a certain point you just

1722
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: get overwhelmed by how terrible things are around you, and

1723
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: he no longer as a president, it's your point eight

1724
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: yards on five carries. Kyle Allen did start over Davis Mills.

1725
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: It made why it did it? Just the environment makes

1726
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: none of that have any difference. Just start Davis Mills

1727
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: and see if you could be your backup next year. Well,

1728
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's probably solidified as their

1729
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: backup based on where they're at. I mean, is gonna

1730
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: be there next year? I think that's all TBD. The

1731
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff could be different, the front office that would

1732
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: be two, that would be two one, and Dun's in

1733
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: a row, which which is what we were. We were

1734
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: suspicious of that when could be different. I mean, I'm

1735
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: impressed by the by Miami's consistency. They they want their

1736
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: run game to be better than it was today. They

1737
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: also lost Austin Jackson late in this game, their other

1738
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: starting tackle, and the drop off from Armstead and Jackson,

1739
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 1: who also missed some time earlier, to their backup tackles

1740
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 1: was immense. So that's huge with a huge Mike McDaniel

1741
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan rivalry game next week, Spicy, all right, one

1742
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: more game to go. Mark you ready? Sure you ready

1743
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: to put the Packers to bed once and for all. Well,

1744
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 1: that's been my goal. Well consider your goal achieved. Sunday

1745
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: Night football hurts, takes the slap, comes back, gives it

1746
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: the Sanders. Sanders, but the first I have a games overheat.

1747
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 1: Lock it up, Miles Sanders. But you see Amalo and

1748
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,480
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson and the Eagles are going to the victory formation.

1749
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: If Fat Lady is not shooting yet, but she's warming

1750
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: up a vocal cords. Yes, the Eagles did whatever they

1751
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: wanted on the ground against the paper tiger defense of

1752
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Three and sixty three yards on

1753
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: the ground to be exact, with three scores Jalen Hurts

1754
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: and Miles Sanders combining for three hundred stupid, ridiculous uh

1755
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: in a forty to thirty three win over the Packers.

1756
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Like I I said, Mark Sessler, the Packers, you could

1757
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: pack them up and ship them out of town until

1758
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty three because they are four and eight

1759
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: and their quarterback Aaron Rodgers finished this game with his

1760
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: jersey off after getting X rays on his midsection. But

1761
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: let's start Mark with the Eagles, who moved to ten

1762
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: and one, keep a hold on the number one seed

1763
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: in the NFC, and show once again that they can

1764
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: just impose their will on an opponent with their terrific offense.

1765
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,919
Speaker 1: In an NFL offense running the ball forty nine times,

1766
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 1: it's seven point four yards per carry, and I mean

1767
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: just the visualization of by the end of this game,

1768
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: down the stretch, Green Bay hanging around had a chance

1769
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: over and over if they could shut down Philly on

1770
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 1: the ground to make a game of this with Jordan

1771
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: Loven there, look who him and Christian Watson had an

1772
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: immediate connection. But they couldn't. They couldn't do anything to

1773
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 1: the Really, it's like they were just there were probably

1774
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: six or seven key moments where they could have had

1775
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: a chance to do it, and all I saw was

1776
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 1: a green Bay Packers defense. And we've seen this before

1777
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: with their defense when they get run on like this.

1778
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: Gased totally gas at the end. But of course any

1779
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: defense dealing with what the Eagles did tonight and Jalen Hurts,

1780
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: who's just simply incredible to me from this angle, the

1781
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Eagles ran nearly eight play seventy nine, so you could

1782
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: tell Green Bay had their hands on their hips by

1783
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: the end of this game. I mean they ran for

1784
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 1: three sixty three total. You mentioned Sanders, it hurts, but

1785
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you know throwing gainwell in Boston, Scott combined for like

1786
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: eleven for sixty So no matter who it was that

1787
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 1: you mentioned, seven point four yards per carry on the ground,

1788
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: so that's more than Jalen Hurts was averaging through the air.

1789
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: They're like one of the rare teams that it's more

1790
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: efficient to run, and that's because the scrambles that Hurts

1791
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 1: had were incredible. The first play of the game. There's

1792
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing there on third down, the first third down

1793
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: of the game, and he makes four guys miss and

1794
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: gets the first down and that ends up leading to

1795
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: seven points. His decision making, which I think he struggled

1796
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: with a week ago on the r p O s

1797
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: of whether to keep it or not. He kept giving

1798
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: the ball away when he probably should have kept it.

1799
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: He kept it tonight, and there were so many good decisions.

1800
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: And then that first touchdown by Sanders was an RPO

1801
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: where he did give it to Sanders and they just

1802
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: were waiting for Hurts to keep it and he's just

1803
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: got prairie loans, prairie lanes to throw too. And then

1804
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: he was dealing to like he had a third and

1805
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: twelve completion in the red zone that kept a touchdown

1806
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: drive going. He had a third and fourteen to get

1807
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: it close, that TD two walk in. It's not like

1808
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: he didn't throw the ball well, that was It was

1809
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 1: just an some game to watch by Dalen Hurts. Yeah,

1810
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you look at this team and I have some questions,

1811
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, about about their defense and they could not

1812
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: put the Packers away, it seemed. But it was also

1813
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: it was almost like they were kind of toying with

1814
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the Packers. By the end of this game. You never

1815
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: felt that uh Green Bay was ever in any danger

1816
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: of stealing this And yes, Aaron Rodgers now goes to

1817
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the sign when we know he's playing with a broken thumb.

1818
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 1: He acknowledged that last week, and he was in a

1819
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pain after getting hit in the chops

1820
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: in the second half. Stayed in for one series, but

1821
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: you could tell when he went to the sideline after

1822
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: Mason Crosby kicked the field goal that it was probably

1823
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna be the last you saw of him. And then

1824
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: cut to mark the shot of him with his pads off,

1825
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: with a jersey off, looking every bit the thirty eight

1826
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: year old quarterback that he is, and he just wondered

1827
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: it said especially you know, a small sample size, of course,

1828
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: but the backup comes in the former first round pick

1829
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: and does some things like what is going through the

1830
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: minds of um La Fleur of management as you spin

1831
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: forward to the future of the Packers, which may or

1832
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: may not have Aaron Rodgers in it. Four and eight.

1833
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see how long he's gonna be out.

1834
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a comfortable physical ailment to be dealing

1835
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: with as an NFL quarterback. I mean, if he's gone

1836
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: for multiple weeks, and he comes back and they've got

1837
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: ten or eleven losses. What unless it's him saying I

1838
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: want to be in this lineup, you know, come hell

1839
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: or high water. I don't know why you don't finally

1840
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: get a good look at Jordan's Love, who I thought

1841
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,520
Speaker 1: showed some promise tonight. And why you need you necessarily

1842
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 1: shove Aaron Rodgers back into this lineup? Or if you're

1843
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: in Rogers, why that even makes so much sense? Well,

1844
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: they haven't had their bye week yet, which I forgot about.

1845
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: They have the Bears next which would be a nice

1846
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: spot for Jordan's Love to come in and you and

1847
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: you're right, he threw the ball very well. I know

1848
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: it's only what was it, nine attempts, but most of

1849
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: them are right on the money. Uh. He looked a

1850
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: little more confident in making quick decisions. You have the

1851
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Bears next week, and then you have the after that.

1852
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: It's an oblique injury, and you you figure let Love

1853
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,759
Speaker 1: start next week. See see where it's at. It's it's tricky.

1854
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: It's an offseason question really that we don't need to

1855
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: get into because this season is dead. But they're pretty

1856
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: much tied to Rogers for next year. But if you

1857
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: play love maybe a little uh, you know, you can

1858
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: make decisions based on that. You could either trade Jordan

1859
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Love off of that, or you could trade Aaron Rodgers

1860
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 1: off of that to the You know, I would take

1861
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Oh no, because I have Mike White now,

1862
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: the Great White White. It's lucky for them that this

1863
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: development happen when exactly we shall see I mean, reasonable

1864
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: mind reasonable minds can differ on this, but I think

1865
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has earned the right to decide how the

1866
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 1: rest of the season plays out in terms of whether

1867
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: he's playing or not. But also, obviously, Jordan's Love could

1868
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: do himself a lot of favors here by playing well

1869
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: in this game. And then if he gets an opportunity

1870
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: to get Chicago who we saw this today and throughout

1871
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: the season, cannot stop anybody. But that's that Eagles are

1872
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 1: ten and one. They keep her, only get the Titans

1873
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: next week. Justin, maybe maybe justin, we'll lock up his

1874
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: Titans and a show finally, a show of loyalty for

1875
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: his favorite team. That would be bold. At least it

1876
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: would be pretty bold against a ten and one team.

1877
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: They'll probably be seven point underdogs on the road. You

1878
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: know this is a little early to be negotiating things.

1879
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 1: But if you lock up the Titans and you win,

1880
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: we'll give you that halfback. You'll get one and a

1881
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 1: half wins. How about that? Why do you why do

1882
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,879
Speaker 1: you unilaterally decide on how the game works? Greg? My standing?

1883
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: The locks are we all know, not justin current favorite

1884
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: what is going on with disturbing unpleasant development. We've been

1885
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: on the same page today. We're both have been for

1886
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. He's just an arbiter of truth and he's

1887
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: over the last two hours. He's independent arborer and he's

1888
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 1: just measuring what's the truth in this? You disappoint me

1889
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 1: justin Hey, we have breaking news. By the way, that's

1890
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: a surprise. The research team got back to me. Look

1891
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: at them, and I want to tell you, buddy, I

1892
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: thought I had something special going on at the early

1893
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: games in my draft, and I absolutely did. Because the

1894
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: Commanders and Falcons came into two seven, which is the

1895
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: eighth quickest game of the season, just three minutes off

1896
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: the lead, which is Panthers Bucks back in week five,

1897
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: number ten on the list Jets Bears. I had to

1898
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: seven and to early on today. Remember I had the

1899
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Speaker 1: Sandwich bet that we'd see these the fastest game in

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Speaker 1: league history. We're not even close, not even close. And

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Speaker 1: I have more research and notes. What a great job

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Speaker 1: greenholds the whole team with the ski Bunnies on to um.

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Speaker 1: Some contexts in the late two point conversions from NFL communications.

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Speaker 1: Week twelve two is the first week multiple games were

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Speaker 1: decided by game winning points scored on a two point

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Speaker 1: conversion in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: The Jagson Charges became the third and fourth team since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four to score the game winning points on

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Speaker 1: the two point conversion in the final fifteen seconds of

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. History. WHOA. I feel like John Gruden

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Speaker 1: was involved in at least one of those others the

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Speaker 1: Other's Chargers in week fifteen eighteen and Chiefs and Vikings

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Speaker 1: in the week fifteen at the Saints. I have a

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Speaker 1: late show quiz question for you. Okay, the first ever

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Speaker 1: NFL coach to dial up a two point conversion, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it was belichickos well, it was bell But I

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Speaker 1: mean imagine though, like if of all the people on

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Speaker 1: the planet to have done it, that was Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: it had to be. I just want Bill to write

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Speaker 1: you your letter back the Belichick letters one of the

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Speaker 1: right back that was the whole con seed of the article,

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Speaker 1: but was oh no, after the long form came out

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. Bill can't shoot you a note just

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Speaker 1: saying I don't like what I wasn't asking no, because

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Speaker 1: it's like, do you think he got um? Did you

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Speaker 1: watch the game on Monday? I thought that was you

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Speaker 1: right now? They Do you think someone passed them the

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Speaker 1: ballotcheck letters? I know for I know for a fact

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Speaker 1: that he's There was an administrative assistant in the story

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Speaker 1: that was the Browns, his admin back in the day.

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Speaker 1: He became she became Nick Sabans DMin and smoke to

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Speaker 1: each other. It was really good. I really enjoyed him marked.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're read it, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to right back. No letters for you. I don't

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Speaker 1: need anymore. What's your next long form coming out? I

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Speaker 1: mean maybe you never to the next long form? What's

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Speaker 1: it coming out? He's a word smith, Greg, right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: even why you two have been doing this like in

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Speaker 1: the during the entire time we're watching SNF trying to

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Speaker 1: convince me to dial back, Like six thousand words, raging

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Speaker 1: apathy on this front. We we have a big audience

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Speaker 1: if you're out there and you're a fan of Mark

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Speaker 1: song forms back in the day, the Belichick letters, any

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Speaker 1: of the great ones, the sideline reporters ones. There was

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Speaker 1: it was just broadcast the Mother's Day piece about our

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Speaker 1: sons play football and how wonderful that is. That actually

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Speaker 1: almost cost me major points within the news. Whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to see more great writing from

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Speaker 1: Mark's great writing sometimes makes people uncomfortable, let him know,

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Speaker 1: let him know, I don't understand your angle. I will

1951
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Speaker 1: play along with Mark Cesler on Twitter and tell him

1952
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Speaker 1: that you love him as a word smith and you

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Speaker 1: need more long forms. We just can't stop talking. We

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Speaker 1: we like came in here. It's like we didn't spend

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Speaker 1: that much time on this great game. But bot Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything to say before we sign off?

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Speaker 1: Black good does not come from me? Good? All right?

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday night. Uh, Greg, do you

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Speaker 1: have any of my my friends, anyone from my personal

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Speaker 1: life joining you on the show tomorrow? We've got to

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Speaker 1: see Sector, who does great work on Sky in the House.

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Speaker 1: But the nice book good booking, so check out the

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Speaker 1: Monday night recap and then we'll be back on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Remember the A t N Homecoming show live from Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles on January eighth. Tickets available. Do we have like

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Speaker 1: a handy website we could point people too? Is there's

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Speaker 1: something we can do on the Ticketmaster? If you just

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Speaker 1: start typing around the NFL, you don't even have to

1969
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Speaker 1: type the whole thing. It pops up around the NFL live.

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Speaker 1: It's so easy. Can we make a U r L

1971
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Speaker 1: like what? I don't see a problem for the master,

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Speaker 1: but can we just make a dumb page the link

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Speaker 1: to our Instagram profile. That's good, that's probably That's That

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Speaker 1: would have been great four days ago, but I think

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Speaker 1: now would be also excited if you would like to

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Speaker 1: join us in Los Angeles on January tea. Check out

1977
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Speaker 1: our Instagram at the A t N podcast, click on

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Speaker 1: the link in the bio and there's your lane two tickets.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go what times? Ticket Master is pure?

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Speaker 1: All right until Monday Night Football? Need the call s