1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of play and book kicks off 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: right now. We have some things to update you on. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: One Clay just this is a pickup from yesterday. Remember 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: how I played Governor Hokeel the governor of New York, 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Kathy Hope, the accidental governor, in fact only the governor 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: because Cuomo was grabbing ladies by the wayte and kissing 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: them close to the mouth, but not on the mouth, 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: but an Italian fashion. Hochel was claiming that she doesn't 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: even know what the crowd was chand they were chanting 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: at the left wing loon rally, tax the rich, tax 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: the rich. We played that yesterday and I said this, 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: they're moving from race communism to more old school class communism, right. 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: The original communism is just a religion of state envy, 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: or rather of state and forced envy that always turns 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: into totalitarianism. That's what real communism is. It's not about 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: the workers and the revolutionary pro terriot and that's all 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: just that's all the make believe stuff. Once you get 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: into like the final boss level of communism, it's just 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: totalitarianism that roots itself deep into the public psyche via, 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: envy and hatred of all that is good. That's what 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: actual communism is. You know, a envy is at the 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: core of it all. Here is Kathy Hokel though, Clay, 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: we're about I'm gonna play mom Donnie's dad in a second, 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to update this. Kathy Hokle realizes that, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, she's the government New York maybe going all 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: in on tax the rich as a slogan that a 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: rally is not so great. So now she's like, I 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: don't even know what they were saying, and play nine. 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 2: I thought they were saying, let's go bills. 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. When you're up there, I heard some noise, 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: I heard a. 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Lot of tears. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: But later on it became third to me that there 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: is a I know this passion for that. I went 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: in there as the leader of the Democratic Party whose 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: job it is to unify and unify behind the Democratic nominee. 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I love the energy out there. I told them that. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: And I want to do is bottle all that up, 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: use it in a few days, but take that too long. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: Island in the Hudson. 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: Valley, Clay, Kathy hoche Let's play a game, moron or liar? 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: Liar? 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 5: Here sometimes often a moron, but she did not think 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 5: they were saying let's go bills. I mean the rich 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: was pretty clear. I mean you and I could hear it. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 5: We were not at the rally, and if you were 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 5: at the rally, you would have seen some people's faces 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: and been able to lip read them as well as 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 5: they were chanting tax the rich. 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: Again. I think there is a quiet panic setting in. 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: Among Democrats that know what it takes to win elections 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: that if AOC and Mom Donnie are the face of 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: the Democrat Party, they're in trouble. And really liberal became 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: such a negative word for the Democrats that they really 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 5: ran away from it. They talk about being progressives. 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: Now. 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: I think New York City liberal and California liberal is 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: going to be a huge part of the twenty twenty 60 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: six campaign because I think if you look in New 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 5: York City, you're gonna have Momdani, You're gonna have AOC, 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: You're gonna have Schumer, and you're gonna have Akeem Jefferies. 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: That's four New York City guys and gals. And you're 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: just gonna say those are New York City Liberals. And 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: then as Cuomo gear sorry, as Newsome gears up to 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: run for the presidency. I think California liberal will also 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 5: be an insult. And I think increasingly the decisions being 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: made by places like New York and LA are at 69 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 5: extreme odds with the rest of the country in a 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: way that the Democrat Party recognizes as toxic to their 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 5: brand in what they would call flyover country, and they 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: have to win some of those races in order to 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: have power to enact the agendas of New York or 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: in La heck Buck, even San Francisco. I think you 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: got to give some credit to their new mayor, Daniel Lurie. 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: He seems sane right on a level that Mom Donnie 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: is not saying, on a level that Brandon Johnson in 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 5: Chicago is not saying, on a level that Karen Bass, 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 5: the mayor of Los Angeles, is not right. Those are 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: people who are clear failed left wing politicians. I think 81 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: some cities, Muriel Bowser seems somewhat reasonable, right. 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: The mayor of Washington, d C. 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: The mayor, And I'm saying that from a Democrat context perspective, 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: not that I agree with everything they do, but just hey, 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: Trump trying to drive down violent crime in Washington d 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: c Hey, I'm kind of in. 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: Favor of that. 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: That's Muriel Bowser Daniel Lurie, the mayor of San Francisco, 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 5: actually negotiating with Trump to try to say, hey, we're 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: trying to implement a lot of the policies you want 91 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: to put in place, but if I do it, maybe 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 5: we can get it through without the chaos that might 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: come from people who just hate you in San Francisco 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 5: rejecting the choices you're making, even when they're rational. My 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 5: biggest concern, Buck is they make all these choices that 96 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 5: are awful, and then they still are gonna just say, well, 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 5: the reason why you know this didn't work because we 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: didn't tax rich people enough, because we didn't go far 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 5: left wing enough. That's the reason why the policies that 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 5: we're trying to put in place fail. That's my concern 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: about Mandani. If he wins that they will refuse to 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: accept responsibility if he tries to put these policies in place. 103 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Claire, are you trying to suggest that if 104 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: he's as much of a disaster as you and I 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: and every sane person with us right now thinks he 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: will be the voters of Mandani will claim that real 107 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: Mamdanism has never been tried. 108 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: It's very sad. It's very sad. It's very true, very certain. 109 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: All right, since speaking of Mandani Mamdani, I will say, also, 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: everyone butchers this guy's name all the time. 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's amazing, it's it shouldn't be that 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 4: hard to say. But for some reason, going from the 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: M to the end, I think. 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: Am I mispronouncing this? Or is this one of the few? 115 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: Is Zoran Mamdani right like I Commandanni? 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: Yes? 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of people say Mandanny, you know Mamdania. 118 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: You know, they get all all kinds of things going 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: on here. All right, let's get into his dad. Let's 120 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: talk about his dad for a second. Here Zora Mamdani's father, 121 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: who's a Columbia University professor of course, uh Mahmoud Mamdanni. 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Here he this is well, this is not long ago. 123 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Here is Zoran's dad on this country that remember, Zoran 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: is here as a refugee. 125 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 4: Zoran is here because. 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: The place that he came from was not a place 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: he could stay, right, I mean that's my I think 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: his dad came here from Uganda. And whether he's not 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: technical a refugee. He's certainly an immigrant because Uganda, it's 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: got problems, got a little bit of not. 131 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: A play that a lot of people choose to go 132 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: from a Western, civilized country, right, There's just not that 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: many people like, hey, we are you headed next? I 134 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 5: was thinking about America, I was thinking about England, maybe Germany, 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 5: and then I chose Uganda instead. I don't think a 136 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: lot of people make that choice. It was Italy or 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: it was Uganda. Yeah, most people, including Mam Donnie's own family, 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 5: have made the choice to come back. I do love 139 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: Buck that, while he doesn't trust the NYPD when he 140 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 5: goes to Uganda, they have a full security force protecting 141 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: the family. 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: Yes, but of course, but of course here is his 143 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: dad back. 144 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Columbia University Professor Professor Mam Donnie 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: play at six. 146 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: America is the genesis of what we call settler colonialism, 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 6: and the American model was exported all around the world. 148 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: Abraham Lincoln generalized the solution of reservations. They herded American 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 6: Indians into separate territories for the Nazis. For the Nazis. 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 6: This was the inspiration. Hitler realized two things. One that 151 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 6: genocide was doable. It is possible to do genocide. That's 152 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: what Hitler realized. Second thing Hitler realized is that you 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 6: don't have to have a common citizenship. You can differentiate 154 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 6: between people. The Nuremberg laws were patterned after American laws. Anyway, 155 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 6: the US put Indians in reservations. The US invented the model. 156 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: This is not Tan. 157 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: First of when you talked about Setler colonialism, I think 158 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: he's trying to speak specifically in the context of Israel 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: as an apartheid state here, because obviously America was a colony, 160 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: was a colony of settlers, and then we fought a 161 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: revolution to become free. I don't know if he just 162 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: skipped that part of American history, but it turned it 163 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: was actually the Spanish, the French, the Dutch, the British, 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: they were the ones who created this model. 165 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: This is actually this argument that he makes, Buck. This 166 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 5: is why I was so annoyed and have not given them. 167 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: What annoys Clay the most is not the hatred of America. 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: It's the wrong history. 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: It's me wrong. 170 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 5: You can hate America, you have the right to hate America, 171 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: but at least rooted in historical accuracy. 172 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 4: This is like the the and and don't placate. 173 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: Those who hate America and are rooted in historical stupidity. 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 5: This is like what happened at my university, George Washington 175 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: University gw is now the revolutionaries, they were the colonials, 176 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: but they decided that the colonials had too much of 177 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 5: a context of connection to colonialism, so they changed the 178 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: name of the mascot. 179 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: Were the colonial army. 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 5: We were the colonized who threw off the oppressive colonialism 181 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: that we were founded upon. 182 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: Right, So, if anything in. 183 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: The history, were the heroes of the colonial worldview because 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 5: we took independence from the places that had colonized us. 185 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: In fact, there countries were very explicitly the removal of 186 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: the colonial overlord was premised upon the American success in 187 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: this right. One example would be Haiti Haiti. 188 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 6: The. 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 5: Revolution in the Western hemisphere probably, But yes, buck to 190 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: your point. When in New York City, where you grew up, 191 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: one of the first things they did was tear down 192 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: the statue of the King and turn it into lead bullets. 193 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 5: I mean that is pretty explicitly anti anti the colonial 194 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: power that puts you in place. So yes, his his 195 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 5: argument is bastardized and what is really designed to do, 196 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: and this is where the identity politics worldview comes in 197 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: is white men are evil. If you look at what 198 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: the motivation is by and large of the modern day 199 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: Democrat Party at its essence, at its base, it is 200 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: white men or evil. That's what they all believe. Now, 201 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: some of those white men you know who take their 202 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: wives names are voting also to say white men are evil. 203 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: There's a not in substantial cadre of white people that 204 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: they are collaborator or evil in they are collaborators. And 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: some would argue white women are actually the founders and 206 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 5: primary principal drivers of the woke virus in general. In fact, 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: I think that's likely true, but it relies on the 208 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 5: villainy of white men that is the foundation of the 209 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: Democrat Party. And so when mom Donnie's dad is making 210 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: the argument that all that is evil is rooted in 211 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: the United States, is an intentional argument because what it 212 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: leads to is a delegitimization of the country and its 213 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 5: founding and the declaration of independence in the Constitution. And 214 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 5: you can tear it all down, as we saw physically 215 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: happen in twenty twenty. 216 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: There's also an argument that I've thought of maybe Clay 217 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: for a future book, but it would be very detailed 218 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: in history and have to get deep into the history. 219 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: But of the one of the challenges that the Western 220 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: world has when it comes to all of this wokeness 221 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: and historical oppression stuff is that we actually have histories written, 222 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: histories that go back quite a ways. A lot of 223 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: other parts of the world don't, Yeah, and so it's 224 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: harder for people to know. For example, like you, you 225 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: all know that the Portuguese and the Spanish, and the 226 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: French and the British, et cetera. Western European countries and 227 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: the age of exploration starting right around the early fifteen hundreds. 228 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: Afterigured most lands in fourteen ninety two, they start going 229 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: all over the world. They start exploring, and yes, they 230 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: fight and they take over peace of land, sometimes more 231 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: peacefully than others, but a lot of the time with violence, 232 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time they spread disease. But 233 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: do people know about all of the tribes that were 234 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: exterminating each other beforehand? Do people know that the great 235 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: victory of the Inca people, for example, was the consolidation 236 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of their empire just a generation before the arrival of 237 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: the Spaniards, the consolidation of an empire that enslaved and 238 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: murdered countless other tribes. They don't even talk about this. 239 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: You talk about the native South Africans. And this came 240 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: up recently when Trump was talking about South African refugees. 241 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: How many of the people that teach about colonial settler colonialism, 242 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: for example, at Columbia University, even though that the Zulus 243 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: were colonists. The Zulu tribe arrived and through warfare and 244 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: conquest an enslavement of those who were there in advance 245 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: of the Zulus became the primary tribe in that region, 246 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: and the areas that originally the South African Dutch colonists 247 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: colonized were uninhabited. 248 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, this is just not taught. No one 249 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: knows these things. This is all true. 250 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 5: This is also the story of human civilization is human 251 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: populations move to areas where there was no people. Right, Like, so, 252 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: at what point does land It's really kind of amazing, right, 253 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: The whole argument is premised on to your point, a 254 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: fact that the historical record is very limited. But land 255 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: is like, at what point do you say, oh, this 256 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 5: land is owned by someone, when do they become the owners, 257 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: and the whole premise is just absolutely ridiculous. Also, these 258 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: land acknowledgments, which are now the basis of almost every 259 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: major Democrat event. You know, they start off by apologizing 260 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: to the initial owners of the of the land or 261 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: dwellers of the land. 262 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: The great exterminators, if you're going to look for them, 263 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: of other human beings, would certainly be the Mongols. Actually, 264 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: in the thirteenth how many have you sit around thinking 265 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot about the Krasmi and Empire. You might not 266 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: have even heard of the core. It was actually huge, 267 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: it was gone. They killed basically all of them, the Mongols. 268 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: They showed up, they didn't like them. 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First of all, I just 347 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: I've remarked on this to you before. This is it's 348 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: interesting me to see this. You know that Joe Biden 349 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: still go around giving speeches I assume paid speeches, which. 350 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: Boy, that's a wasted amount of money, which. 351 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Pushes the question who is paying Joe Biden? I mean, 352 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: remember the guy who couldn't run anymore because he's not 353 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: he's in cognitive decline. You know, if he wants to 354 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: have the ghostwriters put out his memoir, fine, but you're 355 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: gonna go. You're gonna go listen to a Biden's speech 356 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: these days. Well, Biden has very strong opinions, and you 357 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: can hear them on this show. For Free Cut eleven. 358 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: This is what he says about being how bad things 359 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: are right now? 360 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Play it, folks. 361 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 7: We can't kid ourselves. We are in one of those 362 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 7: moments right now. Over fifty years of elected public life. 363 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 7: This is the worst I've seen it. If Ted were 364 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 7: here today, would be fighting like hell, but his optimism 365 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 7: would be surely tested, because truth be told, our very 366 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 7: democracy is at stake. In my view, we all agree 367 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 7: that our politics is broken. A political violence never acceptable 368 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: is out of hand. That America should be a place 369 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 7: not extremism and surrey. But if decency and grace that 370 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 7: our institutions, what makes us envy of the world and 371 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: our democracy's worst? Fighting like hell? 372 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: For it's just empty platitudes hoarsely shouted into a microphone. 373 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 4: What is the purpose of this, clay? 374 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: Is it just the desperation for money means that he'll 375 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: go speak to anyone anywhere. I don't even know if 376 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: he was paid to give this speech. But also, this 377 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: is the worst things have been in fifty years of 378 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: public life. Really, country's actually doing pretty great. 379 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: Record stock market, low unemployment, no wars, in fact, lots 380 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 5: of wars ending. Trump is, as we speak in Japan, 381 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: having great meetings with so many American allies around the world. Thursday. 382 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 5: The expectation is we're going to get some form of 383 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: agreement with the with the Chinese on trade. All of 384 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 5: these things are super fantastic. So I just I understand 385 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: that there's still a legacy and lingering distaste in many 386 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 5: of our mouths because of the disaster that Joe Biden 387 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: brought to bear, and because inflation spiked all the way 388 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: up to nine percent before it came back down. And 389 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: I understand that things still feel like they cost too much, 390 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: and that is the legacy of Biden, much like I 391 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 5: would imagine that was the legacy of Jimmy Carter. For 392 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: those of you who lived through the Carter era from 393 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: seventy six to eighty, remember early in the Reagan era 394 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: there was a lot of a lot of unhappiness as 395 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 5: the inflation worked its way out. And then by Reagan 396 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: two point zero, he wins forty nine out of fifty states, 397 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: would have won Minnesota, but he didn't want to make 398 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 5: Hubert Humphrey feel bad, and so he didn't spend very 399 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 5: much money in that state. But increasingly, Trump two point 400 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: zero to me, Buck feels like the greatest presidential term 401 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 5: of my life. 402 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 4: I really mean that. 403 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: And I know you got back to back Reagan's but 404 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: when you look at how much better everything is getting 405 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: on almost every front, and I get that being in say, 406 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: oh popularity, there's a certain segment of the population that's 407 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: just bought in that Trump is Hitler. They had a 408 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 5: successful tag on him for a lot of people that 409 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 5: are frankly mentally unstable, that have bought into this idea. 410 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: Way over indexed in Hollywood, way over indexed in creative space. 411 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: But if you're just rational in re and you look 412 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: at the choices that he's making, almost all of them 413 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: are eminently reasonable for what I would say is the 414 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 5: seventy five percent of Saint Americans. And I think this 415 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 5: is why. Also the rise of social media, and I'm 416 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: a little bit afraid of what AI might herald because 417 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 5: there's just a lot of stuff that now circulates on 418 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 5: AI that's not going to be real, And I think 419 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: by the twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight campaigns, 420 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 5: it's going to be very, very difficult even for realistically 421 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: and well plugged in people to know what's real. But 422 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: I think one reason buck I was going to play 423 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: this because I do think it ties in right now. 424 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 5: I would say, we're able to see the lies easier 425 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: and the hipocrisy easier, and if you are willing to 426 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: adjust on the fly, I think that's how many of 427 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 5: you have come to become Trump voters. And this is 428 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 5: even now the media is starting to get into the 429 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: act of asking difficult questions. Karine Jean Pier, I think 430 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: buck thought that she was going to go on the 431 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: road and everybody was just gonna bow down to her 432 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 5: because she's a gay black woman and she's a Democrat, 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 5: and those had become the rules of identity politics was 434 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: you're not allowed to criticize somebody who has an identity 435 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: that is protected in the modern identity politics era. And 436 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 5: it seems to me all that's crumbling. And look, Kareeine 437 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: John Pierre can be a gay black woman, doesn't mean 438 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 5: she didn't suck at her job. You can't use your 439 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 5: identity as both short sword and shield anymore. She was awful, 440 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: She was not prepared. She was not a good communicator, 441 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 5: even for a White house that was filled with a 442 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: lot of people like her who had jobs they couldn't 443 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 5: manage to do. But she was asked, remember how nasty. 444 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 5: I know everybody tries to forget about a lot of 445 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 5: this stuff, but remember when Robert Hurr came out with 446 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: his Special Counsel Report and basically said Joe Biden is 447 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: a doddering old man, and he isn't capable of being 448 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: convicted by a jury because they wouldn't see him as 449 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 5: being capable of committing crimes, which is one of the 450 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: most devastating indictments of a city in United States President 451 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: I've ever heard, and right. 452 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, but it is actually rooted in sound principle. If 453 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: you have someone who has Alzheimer's or has severe dementia 454 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: and they walk into a drug store and they walk out, 455 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: you know they've taken something in their hand and they 456 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: didn't pay for it, Well, they're not committing a crime 457 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: that they have a challenge, right, I mean. 458 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: We mention ray a component almost every crime. 459 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: What Buck's talking about requires two things and act and 460 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 5: act as raya in the old Latin and Amend's raya. 461 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: That's the intent to commit crimes. There are a few 462 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: that are strict liability, i e. If you do them, 463 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 5: it doesn't even matter what your intent was. I'll give 464 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: you one. It's one that's well founded in many parts 465 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: of the law. If you, for instance, sleep with somebody 466 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 5: who's underage, very often your argument, even if you're nineteen 467 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: and you sleep with a sixteen year old, and she 468 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 5: claims she was a teen. In some jurisdictions, you could 469 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: be guilty of a crime because even what you did, 470 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 5: your intent doesn't matter. It's a strict liability offense. There 471 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: are relatively few strict liability offenses in the criminal law. 472 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 5: Most of the time there is a Mansrea component, and 473 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 5: I failed the Mensrea component. By the way, when I 474 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 5: said Humphrey, it was actually, as all of you know, 475 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 5: Mondale that got smoked. I was right that Reagan won 476 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 5: in eighty four, forty nine states to one. Mondell was 477 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 5: from Minnesota, not Hubert Humphrey, who I think also got 478 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: smoked in an election, maybe by Nixon. 479 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: I don't even remember. 480 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 5: But I need to go back and look at the 481 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 5: losing roster of presidential candidates. But this is the Karan 482 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: Jean Pierre clip that I was going. Humphrey was also 483 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 5: from Minnesota, so at least I was close. Here is 484 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 5: a clip of Karine Jean Pierre being asked, have you 485 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: apologized to Robert Herr for all the awful things you 486 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: said about his report which turned out to be true? 487 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: And everybody just stopped talking about him being a liar 488 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: once the June twenty seventh finential debate happened. Here is 489 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 5: KJP trying to answer that question. 490 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 8: Robert Hurr was unemployable for a period because of the 491 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 8: attacks from. 492 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: The Democrats and from the White House that you were 493 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: at the podium leading. 494 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: Have you apologized to Robert Hurr? 495 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 8: I mean, look, what I can say to you is 496 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 8: I've seen that I saw the president every single day. 497 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 8: It wasn't one off, it wasn't once in a while. 498 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: I saw him every day. 499 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 8: He is someone that shark case have you gone back? 500 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: He was? 501 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 8: He had pretty sharp comments about and we all saw 502 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 8: a different reality and your personal passive saying is my 503 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 8: reality was this? My reality was somebody that I saw 504 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 8: every single day who was shark? 505 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: Okay, So no is the answer. But I do give 506 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 5: credit on the questions there, because if you're going to 507 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: say the awful things that were said about Robert Hurn, 508 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 5: I don't know that he's ever spoken publicly. I think 509 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: he just had to take all these SLINKs and arrows, 510 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: and then I can tell you. I can tell you 511 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: Clay as both are official Clay and Buck comologist and 512 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 5: Mourning Joe expert. So those are two areas of my 513 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 5: particular expertise. I watched Morning Joe during the election cycle, 514 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: and Clay laughed at me for this because it was brutal. 515 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 5: But I did learn a lot about the Elisee Jordan, 516 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 5: who's the person asked the question. She was all on 517 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: board for all the Trump is a Nazi conversation. 518 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 4: Oh of course. 519 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: And so the reason now that they turn around and 520 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: they're upset at people like Karine Jean Pierre is they 521 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: look like fools too. They have been made to be 522 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: publicly humiliated by going along with the Emperor has no 523 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: clothes here situation with Biden, by pretending that Biden didn't 524 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: have dimension even though Robert hurt. So, you know, it's 525 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: the effort to clean up their own reputations and also 526 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: take out some of their frustrations on the members of 527 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: the Biden White House that they were all propping up. 528 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: So listen, I mean none of them really take accountability. Yeah, 529 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: accountability is I'm sorry, I will do things differently in 530 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: the future, and to do that accountability is not Well. 531 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: We all lied together, but you lied, and so it's 532 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: your fault. No, you were all. 533 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 5: Part of this. Libs own it. Clearing up things Because 534 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: I'm a history nor Now. I want to make sure 535 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: I sixty eight Humphrey lost to Nixon, eighty four Mondale 536 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: lost to Reagan. I'm told they were both Minnesotans. I 537 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: regret the error and I hopefully will have learned from 538 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 5: it going forward. Buck, you got us take us to 539 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: the break here, just throwing Did I screw that up? 540 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 9: No? 541 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to make sure that I get 542 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: the historical record right. 543 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: If I get a historical factor wrong, it actually makes 544 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 5: me feel sick to my stomach. 545 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: Take some of your calls here, some of your talkbacks 546 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: also light us up. Eight hundred two eighty two to 547 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: eight eight to two. Okay, let's talk about preborn here, 548 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: because the number of unborn babies who are sk of 549 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: abortion right now in this country is shockingly high, and 550 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: that continues day in and day out. Now, we're trying 551 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: to change hearts and minds as the pro life community, 552 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: but we want to save lives in the meantime, and 553 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: that means saving babies on the front lines. This is 554 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: what preborn clinics nationwide. Do you ready for this number? 555 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: They've helped save the lives of about sixty seven thousand 556 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: babies this past year and with your support. Going into 557 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: this final quarter of the year, they might get to 558 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: seventy thousand tiny babies saved. 559 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 4: Team of people. 560 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: Working at the Preborn Network of Clinics provide pregnant moms 561 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: with support and assistance as they choose life for their 562 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: unborn precious baby. When I visited the Preborn Clinic here 563 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: in Hyalia, it was incredible to watch just how dedicated 564 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: they are and how much these moms benefit because their 565 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: lives are changed because they save the tiny baby that's 566 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: growing in their womb with Preborn's help. They need your help, 567 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: though the pro life community. They need you to step 568 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: up and financially support them. They don't get a dollar 569 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: of government money. Preborn call if Preborn spends twenty eight 570 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: dollars whenever they give a mom a free ultrasound in 571 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: their clinics. So if you can make a gift of 572 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: just twenty eight dollars, you may just be saving the 573 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: life of a little baby in the womb right now, 574 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: with little fingers, little hands, little toes. If you can 575 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: donate ten times that amount, by the way, imagine the 576 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: impact of your gift would have. This is tax deductible 577 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: going to a great cause. Twenty eight dollars, twenty eight 578 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, whatever you can donate. A lot of you 579 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: are thinking, I think, as we get into the holiday 580 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: season toward the end of the year, about some of 581 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: the some of the charitable donations, some of the nonprofit 582 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: donations that you're going to be making for good causes. 583 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: Let's put Preborn high up on that list, my friends. 584 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: To donate securely, dial pound two fifty and say the 585 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: keyword baby. That's pound two five zero, say baby. Or 586 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: get to preborn dot com, slash buck preborn dot com 587 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: slash b Uck sponsored by. 588 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: Preborn News you can count on and some laughs too. 589 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 590 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 591 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 592 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 5: All right, we got a bunch of great talkbacks, and 593 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 5: I'm just going I love these talkbacks because you guys 594 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: do a great job of sending them in and so 595 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: we can just run through. I am very impressed with 596 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: the collation, even sometimes when I am insulted and called 597 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 5: mean words, as I was earlier by one of our 598 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: podcast listeners. 599 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: But let's run through a bunch of these. Bob from Houston. 600 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: I actually gave Houston a shout out yesterday, but Bob says, 601 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: we don't talk enough about how nice Texas is. 602 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 9: BB Now, Clay Buck, I understand why you give Tennessee 603 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 9: and Florida all the love in the world, and of 604 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 9: course on Handy gets a lot of love to Florida 605 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 9: as well, and all of them for very good reasons. 606 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: I know why. 607 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 9: Okay, So when are you ever gonna mention how awesome 608 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 9: in great Texas is to move to as well? I 609 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 9: love Astown, I love the Greater the Greater Houston area 610 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 9: is really thriving. It's becoming so big and massive. It's 611 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 9: going to be better and bigger than New York. Get 612 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 9: out there. 613 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 4: We love Houston. 614 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: We love it's fair, we we I try to throw 615 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: in the throw to the mix that Texas is great too. 616 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: But Clay, I think that Texas has always been the 617 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: red sanctuary for you know, it's like, if you want 618 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: to go red, you've known. Florida has become red under 619 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis and part of the the post covid uh 620 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: Revolution freedom revolution here, and then Tennessee I just think 621 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: has become more of a national destination. 622 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: I yeah, I think that's all true. 623 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 5: I try to say Texas, Tennessee, and Florida because all 624 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: three have no state income tax. 625 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: So well, that's the big that's the big test. By 626 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: the way, if you're the real deal, you should have 627 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: no state I've talked to other red state governors about this, 628 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: and I wish they could join, but it's very hard 629 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: to get those in trench interests once they get used 630 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: to those tax dollars to get rid of. That's exactly right, uh, 631 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Phoenix kf Y. I also love the state of Arizona, 632 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: great place. Yeah this is true, but listen to her 633 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: takeway listening. 634 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: To Hannity the other day and he said that he's 635 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 2: made several bets with you and you haven't paid us 636 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: at all. 637 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: Can you comment? 638 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: I owe show a lot of money, It's true. I 639 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: mean the range with this they can play, they can 640 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: play it on Hannity. I owe Sean hundreds of dollars. 641 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 5: I think he's won every sports bet with me, and 642 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 5: it's convin convenient. 643 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 4: I don't carry a lot of cash typically. 644 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: This Sean Hannity is smoking the OutKick guy when it 645 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: comes to sports betting. 646 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 5: I've lost a lot of bets with Sean. I owe 647 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 5: him hundreds of dollars, and it is funny every time 648 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 5: I see him, I'm like, sorry, I just don't have 649 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 5: a lot of cash. I do not typically carry a 650 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 5: lot of cash. But he's not he's not lying when 651 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: he says that I owe it and that that so 652 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 5: far I haven't paid him. 653 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: I got to. 654 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: I should have to like join him in their New 655 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: York City studio next time you're in New York and 656 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: pay up on air, Clay, because I make amends. 657 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: He's dodge in New York City like you are. Though 658 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 5: now he's got his studio down in Florida. He's uh, 659 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 5: he's a Floridian now, Pam in Anchorage, Alaska. 660 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this. We got a lot of reactions to this. 661 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: I bet okay, Clay. I watched your video when you 662 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: were showing us your rooftop pool with a view of 663 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: your ground level pull and now all I can pictures 664 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: you just sunning naked, you know, on your rooftop and 665 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: then meandering down to your ground level naked. Just it's 666 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: too late for me. Everyone runs, save yourself. 667 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 4: Look what we have. 668 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: We got audience members picturing you naked buddy, that's. 669 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 4: The here's the deal. 670 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 5: I did not say that I'm like a male stripper 671 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 5: or something. I said that we don't have window shades 672 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 5: or treatments or whatever the hell these things are called 673 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 5: in the master bedroom yet. And there is a builder 674 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 5: across the way. And so my wife will regularly like, 675 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 5: I take a shower and then I just go get underwear, 676 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 5: go get dressed, and I don't really worry about like 677 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 5: if the construction guys are looking at me, because I'm 678 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 5: a guy, Like, what do I care? And my wife 679 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 5: is always like, oh my god, you can't walk, you 680 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 5: can't do this. And my argument is women think about 681 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 5: nudity very different than men, because the women's body is pursued. 682 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 5: People try to see it naked. Nobody wants to see 683 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 5: me naked. 684 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 9: I'm not. 685 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 5: If you want to look, you can look. Sorry, construction guys, 686 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 5: it's sorry. 687 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: Pam