1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Take me to your leaders. Unless they're jackasses. They seem 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: like jackasses. It's one more thing. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty, one more thing before we get 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: to your thing. I know we're about to talk about 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: the UFO hearing as they had the other day. I 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: as a guy who listens to lots of podcasts and 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 2: reads tons of stuff, I've noticed the change in the 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: last couple of years. There are way more of your 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: super smart people saying I think there's a decent chance 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: we are the only life in the universe, as opposed 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: to like my whole life where it was now, that'd 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: be crazy to think that. Now they're the super educated 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: people who spend their lives on this, there's like a 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: backlash to that, Like, no, there's very good reason to 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: believe we are the only life that exists in the universe. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: I've got to admit, having been convinced of the other 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: point of view from my whole life, I find that 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: counter into it been difficult to buy, but I haven't 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: dug into it. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look, you know, just like search it on 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: YouTube you'll find MIT professors talking going through the reasons 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: why they think that's quite possibly because it's just very 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: very difficult and takes a whole bunch of extraordinary things 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: to occur. Yeah, temperature water. Nobody's exactly sure how life 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: started anyway, but maybe there's just none anywhere, Katie. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: Your gut reaction, Oh, I for sure think there's like 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: aliens or something. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure something well, and the other I'll let you 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: argue with the MIT professor with that they're hiding something. 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: I totally think for sure there's life somewhere. I tend 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: to be on your side. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, and the other thing that I, you know, 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: tended to forget about until I took a college class 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: on This was an unbelievably easy class. I mean, home man, 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: talk about an easy a. You hardly had to fogg 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: a mirror anyway. But it was super interesting and fun. 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: But you know, in the history of the globe, which is, 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: you know, couple of billions a year whatever it is, 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: human beings have existed for like well, just life in 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: general has existed for like a blink of that time. 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: And so not only would. 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: You have to have you know, life here and then 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: there's some here and then way over there, but it 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: would have to exist at the same time across billions 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: of years, right, that's Elon, But I'm aware of each other, 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: that's Elon. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Musk's point is that unless you are inter multiplanetary species, 48 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: which is why he wants to get us to Mars, 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: there's almost no chance of your surviving because there's a 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, there's a time limit on all planets for 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: where it's going to be too hot or too cold 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: for the life to continue. So again, there could have 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: been life, maybe maybe a very long you know, one 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: hundred million years ago or one hundred million years from now, 55 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: but the idea that there's intelligent life somewhere right now 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: that could reach us is very very low. 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating topic, no doubt. But getting back to my 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: charming introduction. Take me to your leaders big hearing the 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: other day in the United States Congress. 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I like that version of interplanetary. Yeah, there's plenty of life. 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: It's close by. They can immediately come here. They speak English, 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: which is very handy. Well, they have translators. 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: It's good they had Google Translate before Google. 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Did I appreciate you learning the English language before you land? 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: Come down and they have three fingers. 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're basically us, just slightly different. 68 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, always bald headed, always kind of translucent with smooth 69 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: weird heads. Anyway, you know what, the old Star Trek 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: was so great for aliens. I mean because they really 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: tried hard with the technology of the time to be imaginative. 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't all you know, bald headed, et looking creatures. 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: It was everything from like sparkles of energy to very 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: humanoid to like hot green chicks. 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, really ran the gamut. 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Of what with Mars attacks. 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, great old movie. Yeah. 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, So there's a hearing the other day Congressional panel 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: what the House Oversight Committee. 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Evidently they oversee space aliens. 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: But it's funny because this account in the Wall Street Journal, 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: which you'd think would be among the more sober accounts 83 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: of this, just kind of glosses over all. Right, are 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: we talking about freaking space aliens? Are we just talking 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: about objects observed by military pilots that have not yet 86 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: been identified? 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Do I think I think China has planes or drones 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: that we don't know about and are hard to detect a. 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: Freaking course, right? 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: And or do we think that DARPA is developing weapons 91 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: and reconnaissance aircraft and sometimes they try them out on 92 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: our very guys to see if they can be detected 93 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: and in what way and how quickly and that sort 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: of thing. 95 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think that. 96 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 3: So the hearing Wednesday by two House Oversight Subcommittee's latest 97 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: in Congress is push for transparent around UFOs, which seems 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: like a terrible idea to me, for reasons I'll get into. 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: Witnesses have alleged that they've seen aerial phenomena exhibiting qualities 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: that defy explanation, that the US government has taken steps. 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: To shield what it knows. 102 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: And you've got Nancy Mayce, who's the hottie from South 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: Carolina who about half the time strikes me as a 104 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: really good congress person, then the other half of the 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: time she strikes me as a nut. But she said 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: she's the chairwoman of one of the subcommittees, said in 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: her opening remarks that some people didn't want Wednesdays hearing 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: to happen because they feared what might be disclosed. But 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: we stood firm no amount of outside pressure would ever 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: keep me from pursuing a subject. What if it's like 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: highly classified weapons systems to keep us from being overrun 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: by the Chinese commie horde, sweetheart, then would you disclose 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: it to the public. 114 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Not good. 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: Congress in twenty twenty two held its first hearing on 116 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: US what it now calls Unidentified anomalous phenomenon or UAPs. 117 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: Again, why did they have to change? 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: Or if there's like flying pigs, that would be well, no, 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: I suppose that would be an identified anomalous phenomena. 120 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: Hey, I know what that is. That's a flying pig. 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: Oh when the hole wind pigs fly thing is now, 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: I'll be damned, but identified? Yes, everybody keep cool. Since then, 123 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: lawmakers in the public have heard from military and intelligence 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: officers who've testified they've seen UAP and they could pose. 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Risks to national security. 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: And the Pentagon did not respond to a request for 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: comment on Wednesday. 128 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know? 129 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just done. 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: We're dealing with this as fast as we can can. 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: We just keep kind of quiet about it all because 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: we're developing counters to these Chinese spy tiny spy drones, 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: and we don't want to talk about it. 134 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Nancy. 135 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: The other thing that has changed in my lifetime that 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: makes sense, not only is there, you know, this newfound 137 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: belief that maybe there is no other life in the universes. 138 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: Why are we sending out signals to try to reach them? 139 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: That stupid Stephen Hawking was the first person I heard 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: say that, and then others have written books about it. 141 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: That's the last thing you do if you're some tiny 142 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: little beast in the weeds in Africa is like raise 143 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: up your arms, say hey, any giant predators out there 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: that are much bigger, stronger than meat that would like 145 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: to kill me? 146 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: Huh? 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Anybody I'm over here? Why would you do that? Why 148 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: would you send out the you know, the the voyager 149 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: that's still headed out into space and elons that went 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: out a while back, with all kinds of trying to 151 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: alert people that, hey, Israel a week plant over here 152 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: if you want to come kill us. 153 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: Just we're made of meat, and we've got lots of 154 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: natural resources. 155 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: We're made of meat. Meat. 156 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of one of Henry Kissinger's descriptions of America 157 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: and Americans. We're a big friendly dog, and sometimes our 158 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: tail knocks stuff and breaks it. But and and you can, 159 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: you know, cite this in looking at the way we 160 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: deal with the Muslim world, in dealing with China for 161 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: several decades and There are several others examples of this, 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: But we're we're nice people, Americans in large measure, we 163 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: just want to be friends and do business, and so 164 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: we have this idiotic assumption that everybody else just wants 165 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: to be friends and do business, including space aliens. Right, 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: you're on Flutron five. Hey, do you want to be 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: our friend? Do you want to be our friends? 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Sap? Well, no, we'd like to eat you. 169 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: Dar resources that their ray gun. They just zap you 170 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: with their ray gun. 171 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: This is what happens, No words necessary. It's what happened 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 4: in the horror movie Signs. They started communicating with the 173 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: aliens through a baby monitor and everybody died. 174 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea that that would automatically somehow benefit humanity 175 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: if we did contact a almost certainly superior life format. 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: How why would you assume that that's really weird that 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: we ever thought that, let alone it being the consensus 178 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: of view. 179 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: It's a very American thing to do, it is. 180 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: The Pentagon has previously said there is no evidence that 181 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: UFO sightings are alien spacecraft. Thank god, I don't not. 182 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Since having achieved arguably manhood, have I spent much time 183 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 3: at all thinking about space alien micraft nobly not. It's 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: it's it's advanced military technologies from ours and other governments obviously. 185 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: Now some okay, all right, hey, you know me, mister, 186 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: I want to hear the opposing point of view. 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: You think it may be. 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: A cigar shaped silvery spaceship. 189 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: Is that what you could be? 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking. The saucer exactly coming down with 191 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 4: the beam. 192 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Got the beam picks you up, probes you maybe ainally 193 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: and I haven't thought always part of it. 194 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, so much probing always part of it. Yeah. 195 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: Now some of the like miraculous stops and starts and 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: changes the direction and speed that they've observed in these 197 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: craft is I've got to admit it. It looks to 198 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: be beyond terrestrial technology. But the fact that I can't 199 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: come up with the explanation, partly because I'm not a 200 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: physicist nor a DARPA scientist or whatever, does not mean well, 201 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: you gotta go to space aliens the next step. 202 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Right. 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: That's well, if if the professional you know, commentator can't 204 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: nail down what it is, it must be space aliens. No, 205 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: maybe it's some ability to distort and deceive radar systems 206 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: and you know, whatever other technologies the jet fighters use 207 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. 208 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: But God, we should have dug up the best of 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Kate McKinnon from Saturday Night Live when she gets, you know, 210 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: probed by the aliens, and she'd always pass funny joke. Oh, 211 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: they had me strapped up and they looked me over 212 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: from my cooder to my tutor before they let me 213 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: back down. 214 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Sure, one hundred and five euphemisms for the female parts, 215 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: just absolutely hilarious. 216 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: Hey, remember when the guy told everybody to storm Area 217 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: fifty one online and they took. 218 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: Him serious and ended it was just a party outside 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: everyone every fifty one on gates. 220 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good time. 221 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, I guess that's it.