1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. We are flying by today with the 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: you rolling with us. Special shout out again to the 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: truckers up in Canada and the truckers across America or 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: listen to this show and also standing for freedom. Appreciate 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: all of you. You want to call in eight hundred 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: two two two eight two on those lines. There's a 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: new study out of Johns Hopkins University on lockdowns and 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: they crunched all the numbers and all the data and 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: guess what they agree with Clay and Buck. We'll give 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: you the specifics on how lockdowns are insanity later on 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: this hour, and you need to know the numbers. And 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I just want to state this as a mission here 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: in my mind and something clan I are going to do. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: It's not enough to have them take their hands off 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: the wheel, so to speak. We have to explain to 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the Fauchiites, never again will they be allowed to do 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: this madness. It was complete inanity really from the start, 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: and all the numbers bear that out. So we'll get 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: into that later on. But I well, we started out today, 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: I mean, Clay announced it, and I'll be honest with 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: you with I almost said, y'all there. I mean, I'm 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: in Florida. I don't know if I'm allowed to y'all 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: and I'm in Florida, I need to come here. Well, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: you're in Miami, you're you know the great line about Florida, Buck, 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard it is the further south you go, 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: the further north you go, the more south you get. 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: So like where I am in the Panhandle, where it's 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: right below southern Alabama, like that's super southern. In the 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Panhandle where you are, it's more east coast. Yeah, it's 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: kind of like New York south over here. I got 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: to say countries, So I'm not sure I can yaul it. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: But the point is you heard Clay at the top, 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: and we mentioned in the last hour a couple of times, 36 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: big shake up in the media landscape, and this is 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Remember we're going into midterm election year. 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: You have the warring propaganda machines of Democrat corporate media 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: out there that are trying to make sure that people 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: believe things that aren't true and telling everybody else about 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: their misinformation while they spread the Russia collusion nonsense. Jeff 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: Zucker is out at CNN, and I can tell you 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'll get into some of the specifics about my 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: experienced years ago at CNN, Clay, I don't want to 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: dive into that before we tell everybody who's happening here. 46 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: He had a relationship with a subort, a very senior executive, 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: but still a subordinate because he CNN was Zucker's kingdom. 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, what people got paid, what Zucker wanted 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: them to get paid, they got the show Zucker one 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: of them to he was, um, I was gonna, could 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you say the malevolent tyrant instead of the benevolent Yeah, 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the malevolent tyrant of CNN. And and now he's gone 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: because he didn't disclose this relationship. A couple of things. Claire, 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: just want to throw this to you because you know, 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: you also know that there could be there could be 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: some big lawsuits to come out of all this. The 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: subordinate female is staying as he's staying on at CNN. 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: He is gone. He resigned effective today. Didn't disclose a relationship. 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: What I think so interesting is this Chris Cuomo. Chris 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Cuomo thought that he could away with things that nobody 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: reasonably could have imagined would fly. I mean the helping 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: with his brother, using his pulpit to do so, and 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes comms assistance. I think it's because he 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: knew about what was going on with Zucker. He felt 65 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: like he was covered from on high and for everyone 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: listening to this, the head of CNN. So one of 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the most powerful lib media executives out there is gone 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: because of the investigation into Chris Cuomo, which then led 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: to this revelation. What do you make of it? So 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of different angles here, so we 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,559 Speaker 1: should say, I mean, this is all public now. Alison 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: go Lust as I believe, I mean, I might be 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: pronouncing her relationship wrong. She is the woman that he 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: was having a relationship with. She is the executive VP 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: and chief marketing officer at CNN. So what is interesting 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: about this buck and I think this adds more complexity 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: to the overall situation surrounding Chris Cuomo, but also Andrew 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Cuomo and the way that CNN covered this story. Alison 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: go Lust worked with Andrew Cuomo back in the day. 80 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: In fact, she's a veteran PR expert. I'm reading from 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Radar Online. She was the communication director for Andrew Cuomo 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: and there have this is according to Radar, there were 83 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: many discussions that one reason why Zucker initially helped to 84 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: protect Andrew Cuomo and Chris Cuomo was because in the fact, 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: remember CNN had the bro Cuomos on together during COVID. 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: They were allowing Chris Cuomo to cover his brother Andrew. 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: They made Andrew a hero. They tried to brand him 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: as the anti Trump. Right, there are all those Cuomo 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: sexual shirts. There was the argument that he was going 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: to run for president. Supposedly one of the reasons why 91 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: the Cuomos were protected is because of this woman, Alison 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: go Lust And by the way, it also supposedly this 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: has been going on their relationship for a long time, 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: that they had both of their marriages broke up over 95 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: this affair. So to me, what stands out here is 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: the incredible belief by Zucker that when he fired Chris 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Cuomo that somehow this wasn't going to come out, that 98 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: he was going to emerge unscathed. And it seems what 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: happened basically is Chris Cuomo said, hey, you owe me 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: eight this is my this is me reading what's going 101 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: on here? You're gonna fire me, you better pay me 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: out the eighteen million dollars that you owe me under 103 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: my contract because they tried to argue. They fired him 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: four cause, and when that battle, an investigation into why 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: he was being fired took place. My bed is Chris 106 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Cuomo said, Hey, you know you're firing me for inappropriate behavior? 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: And do you know that that Zucker has been engaged 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: with a relationship with a subordinate for a long time? 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: And Buck, I find it hard to believe there weren't 110 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people inside CNN that didn't know this 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: was going on, this relationship for a long time. I 112 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: was before CNN went completely insane. If ten is the 113 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: craziest olive can be, before CNN went to eleven, it 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: was probably solidly at a at an eight, i'd say, 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: pre Trump era, and I worked over there for a 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: couple of years, and you used to do CNN until 117 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: you're I was baying yes, which it's great Clay is 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: banned from the Republic of cnn Istan. But anyway, the 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: reality here was that everyone knew that there was stuff 120 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: going on in that building for years that the media 121 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: just wasn't as interested in talking about didn't come out. 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I was surprised that some of it took as long 123 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: as it did to come out. And I think I'll 124 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: tell you this right now, and of course can't name 125 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: names because but there's more stuff that will likely come 126 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: out about CNN and the pract this is in that building. Um, 127 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: but what I what? I what the question I have here? 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Because I very much see the Cuomo thing And isn't 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: it fascinating that Governor Andrew Cuomo the hero of the 130 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: pandemic for the Libs, second only to Fauci and in 131 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: the entire nation. You know, Gavin Newsom was having Emmy, 132 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: he was a special Emmy. Yeah, and he send it 133 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: because you know, he was the man during the during 134 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: that he was doing us. You know here I am. 135 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk today about the numbers. Let's look 136 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: at the numbers. The numbers say that I am the best? 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Why am I the best? Because you know, this was 138 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what Cuomo was doing day and day out. I know 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Would thank you and he would do 140 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: this whole thing and the song and dance and everybody say, 141 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's such a great leader. And then 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: it all started to fall apart. He lied about the numbers. 143 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: He hid the number of the deaths, by the way 144 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: death numbers, lied about that in nursing homes, lied about 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: what was happening in a state, covered it up, and 146 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: then the stuff about the sexual harassment, and then all 147 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, his brother was covering up for him. 148 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: And then the brother had, you know, had the issue 149 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: of harassment that came up to and then he got 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: terminated for helping his brother deal with his harassment. And 151 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: now Jeff Zucker is gone. I think in part because 152 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, or rather I think that this came out 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: because of what happened with the Cuoma brothers. So the 154 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: domino's falling here for the left wing media is remarkable. 155 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: But here's the question I have for you, Clay. Disclosing 156 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: a relationship with a subordinate is a this is one 157 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: of these things, you know, the way they're framing this. Clearly, 158 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: this was going on for years, clearly when both were 159 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: probably still married, which this is, by the way, family's 160 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: breaking up. It's a sad thing. It always is a 161 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: sad thing. So whenever this happens, I never I never 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: celebrate or you know, said, yeah, look at this guy. 163 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: His life, or you know this woman in their life 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: is you know, in tatters. I want all families staying together, 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: But why not disclose this? Right? There must be and 166 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: there must be something that we don't know about the situation. 167 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: And I think there are things we haven't heard yet 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: that are actually worse because this is a very sudden 169 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: resignation from a guy who's i mean making probably fifteen million, 170 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year to run CNN. I mean, 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: who's who is a more powerful news executive on the 172 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: left than he was. I mean, it's tough to there's 173 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: not the name there is well and also he was 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: running sports, so I mean Jeff Zucker was massively powerful, 175 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: and so to me, I think you're right. When these 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: is the resignation letters pop out of nowhere, it usually 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: means there's a big investigative piece coming within a day 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: or two somewhere down the line, right, and they know 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: that that media source has got the goods on them 180 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: and that they're going to be sharing it. My first 181 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: thought is when you failure to disclose a relationship, let 182 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: me just say this, if that relationship had just started 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: six months ago, they wouldn't be firing him over failing 184 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: to disclose that relationship. I think what's likely come into 185 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: play here is he probably hired her while already being 186 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: in a relationship with her, which is a big no no, 187 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: right if you are twenty years yeah, right. But I 188 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: brought her from the Cuomo office to come work at 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: CNN a few years ago, and so I think they're 190 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: probably going to be some details coming out about what 191 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: he did or did not reveal. I also believe the 192 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: big question here, Buck, and I'll actually when we come back, 193 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you would do. Let's presume that CNN 194 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: suddenly came to Buck Sexton and they said, Buck, you 195 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: were on air, and we went back and we looked 196 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: at all the data and we determined that yes, we 197 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: weren't yet fully crazy yet when you were on the air, 198 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and we value your opinion for what to do at 199 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: this network. What should we do to I mean, this 200 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: is a crazy stat Buck, Tucker, Carlson and Sean Hannity 201 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: have more democratic viewers in the evening on their show 202 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: than CNN or MSNBC. Do they have lost all of 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: their audience? What did they do to matter? Again? Other 204 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: than is a pathetic punching bag for left wing lunacy. 205 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: They would have to actually try to be a news network, 206 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: and not a perfect one. They're still going to be liberal, 207 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: but this is what they used to be. It used 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: to be a liberal news network. Then it turned into 209 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Pravda for the d n C. I mean, it just 210 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: it just went completely anti Trump, ferociously insane. That's what happened. 211 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Could they bring it back to I mean, I I 212 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: always say this, I have more respect for MSNBC as 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: insane as the commy opinions over there are. They admit 214 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: that their commies, I mean they don't use that term, 215 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: but they admit that they're left they're liberals, they're Democrats. 216 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: So there's not this pretense. CNN lives in fantasyland and 217 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: the anchors over there live in fantasyland on this issue. 218 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: And that's why they would never debate it publicly because 219 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: it looks so stupid. But they, you know, they like 220 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the pretense they pretend. Can I tell you my quick 221 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: fund Jeff Zucker story though, before you go to the break, 222 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: say that's what I want to hear it. I've got 223 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: to everybody else. 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But first, 259 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: buck uteased you have a Jeff Zucker story, the former 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: head of CNN. What happened? I mean, I I had 261 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: very limited interactions interactions with him over there. I was 262 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: actually always surprised when he knew my name and would 263 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: come over to talk to me when I was a 264 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: short term contributor over at CNN. But he and on 265 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the Terriors and stuff. A few times he came over 266 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: and he was like, that was really good. You're really 267 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: a stude. You really know your stuff. And I was like, well, 268 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah on buck Sexton, give me a break. 269 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: But then, uh, you know, no big deal, but whatever. 270 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: But I remember I and I they asked to extend 271 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: me after the Trump election, and I was like, this 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: place is completely lost its I was just always going 273 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: in there texting my friends, this place has lost its mind, 274 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: like they think Trump is, you know, says worse than Stalin. 275 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they're completely crazy. And I was in the 276 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: lobby because I was doing an HLN show for a 277 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: friend of mine who was hosting a show there. I 278 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: was a guest on an HLN show after I had 279 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: said I didn't want a contract extension for them, and 280 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I had no TV job, which is like unheard of 281 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: in TV. You're like, you don't want to be on 282 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: a you know, one hundred million home cable network or whatever. 283 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: No I didn't because they're crazy. And for whatever reason, 284 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: Zucker happened to walk past me in the lobby that 285 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: last thing I ever got to say, the leather. He 286 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: looked me up down and he goes, what do you 287 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: think you're doing here? Just like that, And I was like, 288 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: I like in a negative way, like he was like 289 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: disgusted that you turned down there, Like I thought he 290 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: might tell security to a score be out because I 291 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: told him I didn't want to work there anymore. It's like, 292 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: what are you doing here? I just like doing it? Literally, 293 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have a good quip or come back because 294 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I just said I'm doing my 295 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: friend's show. They let me do it. Oh I was 296 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: never never back on the show. By the way, you're 297 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: officially banned from there. But by the way, maybe not 298 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: anymore is over claim. Maybe we would both be welcome 299 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: to try to win the libs over, to try to 300 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: bring them to the side of sanity. They could have 301 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: conservatives on there. Oh you can't because of Fox, but 302 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I could. I could go over there and tell them 303 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: to stop being crazy. So that could be One suggestion 304 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: would be to bring Buck in. But here's my thing. 305 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: If you truly had some testicular fortitude, whoever takes over 306 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: at CNN, you look at the numbers, they are an 307 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: incredibly difficult spot and U and so my suggestion go 308 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: hire Megan Kelly. Go hire Megan Kelly and put her in. 309 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if she'd do it. Put Megan Kelly 310 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: in for the Chris Cuomo chair, because you send an 311 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: immediate message in the middle of Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon, Hey, 312 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: we're back to being somewhat sane. Meghan Kelly has a 313 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: big fan base. I think she's done well with her podcast. 314 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: I did it on Monday. By the way. I know 315 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: that the situation at NBC didn't go well, but that's 316 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: partly I think a function of NBC just being a 317 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: din of thieves, right, I mean, just a cesspool. And 318 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: so we know how good Megan Kelly was in the 319 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: evenings on Fox News, how great her audience was. She's fearless, 320 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: she's smart, and it would send a message that is, 321 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to continue to be a far left 322 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: wing network that no one watches. The data on this, 323 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you just look at the numbers, Buck, I mean, 324 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Tucker and Sean have more Democratic viewers than MSNBC or 325 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: CNN do. In the twenty five to fifty four demo, 326 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: I was just reading it in the rap today right 327 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: before we were about to go on the show. So 328 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: CNN is not even getting left wing viewers. I'd go 329 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: get Megan Kelly if if I were fearless and I 330 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: were trying to remake that network. You know, you have 331 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of issues now with men, right, You've had 332 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: to get you kept Jeffrey Tubin. You now are having 333 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: to get rid of Zucker, and you had to get 334 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: rid of Cuomo bringing in a woman I think is 335 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: smart regardless, and you got to shake things up and 336 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: a big So everyone remembers this to give you a 337 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: sense of how much CNN has changed. And this was 338 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: really I mean I remember growing up. You know, CNN 339 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: was around long before Fox, right, So when you thought 340 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: of cable news, CNN was the twenty four hour news 341 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: channel until Fox came along in nineteen ninety six, and 342 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: it took a couple of years for Fox to really 343 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: grow its massive audience. Right, So in the early nineties, 344 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was CNN. Man, that was no dame 345 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: in town for cable news. Tu got Murdock was crazy 346 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: to start a news network. But but but Tucker got 347 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: his start at CNN on that's right, right, I mean 348 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: you think back to this, like this used to be 349 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: a place where Conservatives would go through, and I mean 350 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: you Conservators aren't even allow in the building anymore, folks. 351 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: That's how crazy it is. It is pretty wild. You 352 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: think that's a crazy idea, Megan Kelly to see Ann No, 353 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: I think they're mighty and there could even be discussions 354 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: underway for all I know. Who knows, Yeah, who knows. 355 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's actually a smart move if 356 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: CNN is trying to matter going forward. 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Donald 395 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Trump put out a press release since we started this show, 396 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: and he says you ready for this buck. Jeff Zucker, 397 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: a world class slee's bag who has headed ratings and 398 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: real news challenge CNN for far too long, has been 399 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: terminated for numerous reasons, but predominantly because CNN has lost 400 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: its way with viewers and everybody else. Now's a chance 401 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: to put fake news in the backseat, because there may 402 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: not be anything more important than straightening out the horrendous 403 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: lamestream media in our country and in the case of 404 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: CNN throughout the world. Jeff Zucker is gone. Congratulations to 405 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: all exclamation that's actually a really fitting epitaph for an 406 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: era at CNN right now. Because Trump broke CNN. It 407 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: was never the same after Trump. And that's why when 408 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I say that it changed as a place I really 409 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: need it. It was. It was ideologically left, but did 410 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: have some semblance of journalistic ethics that it would occasionally 411 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: that went absolutely out the window, really openly, so so 412 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: they could turn as an anti trum turn into an 413 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: anti Trump machine. And it was very personal. I was 414 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: talking to Clay about this off air. Jeff Zucker and 415 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Trump knew each other for a long time, and Zucker 416 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: decided that, you know, he didn't like Trump and Trump 417 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: didn't like him, and it turned it He really used 418 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: CNN almost as a personal feud weapon against Donald Trump. 419 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: And that's not a good idea because you know, the 420 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: Trumpster knows how to hit back. But I would also 421 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: say that, you know, yesterday I think I mentioned how 422 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: or this week we talked about people in media and 423 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: it might be just interesting for folks out there to know, 424 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: like I said, people say, Whoopi Goldberg is very nice 425 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: and you know, a very nice person, you know, irrespective 426 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: of all the stuff that's been talked about that's been 427 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: going on this week, whereas Keith Olberman is just universally 428 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: known left right center as just a horrible human being. 429 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Zucker not a nice guy, not a nice A 430 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: lot of people across the media landscape right now are going, 431 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, too bad for you, Zucker. You know, too 432 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: bad for you. So I'm just saying that's one thing. 433 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: But we got this COVID study from Johns Hopkins University, 434 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Clay that I did want to get to because I 435 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's important lockdown study specifically, And 436 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to our friend Ned Ryan, who 437 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: is a founder of American Majority at well and about 438 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes or so, yeah, yeah, about the fight 439 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: over masks in loud in schools, because I guess what happened. 440 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: The Governor of Virginia has come in and said, you 441 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: guys can't do this mask mandated schools. You can ask 442 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: your kid if you want, but you don't. You can't 443 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: make kids do it. Loudon County School District has decided. Yeah, 444 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: but like we're more powerful than the governor, We're just 445 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it anyway. That's not how this is supposed 446 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: to work, folks. So we're gonna discuss that with Ned. 447 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: But you know the study Clay said that lockdowns, This 448 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: is that of Johns Hopkins University, numerous statisticians, data analysts 449 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: looking at all of the numbers, just looking this is 450 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: just the numbers that are out there on debts on 451 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: duration of lockdown, where it occurred, per capita everything. And 452 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: this is what they found in the study out of 453 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: John's cop of Johns Hopkins. It reduced mortality the lockdowns, folks, 454 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: the actual like shelter in play, stay home, shut down 455 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: your businesses. They think it reduced mortality during the lockdown 456 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: point two percent. They found that shelter in place orders sorry, 457 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: that's the extension of the lockdown, the most extreme lockdowns 458 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: reduced COVID mortality by two point nine percent. They also 459 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: in the study said this quote, which I think says 460 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: at all clay lockdowns should be rejected out of hand, 461 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: as in this was disastrous and wrong and should never 462 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: be repeated. Prediction. Within a year, you will hear almost 463 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: no one saying that kids should have ever been masked. 464 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: It will be like defund the police, you know how 465 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: right now it's and if people say, oh, I never 466 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: said defund the police, and you have to go back 467 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: now and grab their clips and say you legitimately said 468 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: defund the police. You said and when I say defund 469 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: the police, I mean defund the police. That's what you said. 470 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people are going to say, well, I 471 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: never really thought masks on kids made any sense, But 472 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: what else were you going to do within five to 473 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: ten years buck everything that we did to respond to COVID, 474 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: everyone is going to pretend that they were saying what 475 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: you and I have been saying for the last two years, 476 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: just like you cannot find any one in the entire 477 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: United States now who says, you know what, I supported 478 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: the Vietnam War, and it was a really good idea 479 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: to have fought that war. Remember, all of the quote 480 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: unquote experts told us that fighting in Vietnam was a necessity. 481 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: They told us we had to be there. The best 482 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: and brightest minds of America led to the Vietnam War. 483 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: They were wrong, and now it's pretty much universally understood 484 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: that they were wrong. Well, the quote unquote best and 485 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: brightest the experts all told us that we had to 486 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: lock down. They said that our kids couldn't be in school. 487 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: They said that our kids had to wear masks. They 488 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: told us that we had to get the vaccine or 489 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: we were going to lose our job. They told us 490 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: that the vaccine would stop the spread of the virus 491 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: and would prevent it from continuing to go around the world. 492 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: They told us all that they told us six feet 493 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: of separation made sense. Buck. In your home city of 494 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: New York, they drew circles in parks and told people 495 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: to sit there. They've made children go outside and eat 496 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: while masking between bites, sitting on little stools in cold 497 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: weather climates. This has all been madness. And all I 498 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: would say to everybody out there is, remember who was 499 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: telling you all this when it wasn't acceptable to say it, 500 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: you know, and hold the politicians who argued otherwise accountable, 501 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: just because I think, you know, we'll use this historical 502 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: analogy because we're more able to talk about it. You 503 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: think about in the Soviet system, people that were going 504 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: along with what I refer to as the apparatus, and 505 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: I think it's very accurate for what you're seeing from 506 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: Democrat media and Democrat Party in this country now. People 507 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: went along and they didn't think they were the bad people. 508 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: They always were able to convince themselves while they were 509 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: benefiting from it, while their team was in charge, that 510 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, this was the best we had, that this 511 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: was necessary. There were external enemies. You can rationalize anything 512 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: for your own benefit, whether it's just emotional, psychological, or 513 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: also financial, and when it comes to power, and there's 514 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be clay, a major reckoning for a lot 515 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: of people who went along with Fouchiism. It's going to 516 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: take them a while, but they're gonna have to turn 517 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: around and realize that people's livelihoods were taken from them, 518 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: their businesses were destroyed. There were over one hundred thousand 519 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: drug overdoses and all time high. They have delayed in 520 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: a way that will permanently, permanently affect children and disproportionately 521 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: minority children in this country. They're learning their progress. They've 522 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: put them through a tremendous ordeal for no good reason 523 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: that they even engaged in state mandated You mentioned the 524 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: eating of lunch outside in the cold with a mask on. 525 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: That is state mandated child abuse. I mean, I remember 526 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: I was at I was at a camp and there 527 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: was accounts who you know, did you know? Would it 528 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: take the towel a rat tail? I hit one of 529 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: the kids with it. He was out that day, right, 530 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they fired him right away, and they said, 531 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, you can't ever strike a child in your employee. 532 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: Can you make a child sit outside in thirty degree 533 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: weather with a mask on? Because you feel like it 534 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: does that strike anybody as that is child abuse, and 535 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Fauci sat silently by or encourage this the entire time. 536 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna have some 537 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: real reckonings. I'm real soul searching to do over this. 538 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna take them a while, no doubt. How about 539 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: taping masks on kids' faces? That's child abuse. 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Welcome back to Play and Buck Show. 562 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: We have so much to talk to you about in 563 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: the next hour, including the jobs numbers which are not 564 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: good for this most recent month because you know the 565 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: bidas touch Clay right Bidas Touch, no doubt it does 566 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: not go well. And we have our friend joining us, 567 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Blake Masters, who is of Teal Capital, and he's running 568 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: for Senate in Arizona, doing very well. And every time 569 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: I see one of this guy's campaign videos, I'm going, Yep, 570 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: he gets it, Yep, he understands, and a really sound 571 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: mind on the economy as well as on the border, 572 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: which we'll talk to him about. He's down there in Arizona. 573 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: And we have our friend from Loudon County, founder for 574 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: American Majority, Ned Ryan. In just a few minutes you 575 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: see Ned on Tucker Show all the time. He's a 576 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: great guy, a real movement guy, a rock solid conservative, 577 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: and he's in Loudon, which is the front line. Not 578 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: only are the anti CRT battle in a lot of 579 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: ways critical race theory in schools, but also of masking, 580 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: because Loud County schools are just saying, yeah, we're gonna 581 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: mask anyway. The governor doesn't get to declare that. Wait 582 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: a second, I thought that that, Oh, it's whatever the 583 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Libs want when they wanted, of course, But here, Clay, 584 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: this was interesting. Here is Lena Wynn among the favorite 585 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: blue check docs over at CNN, while there still is 586 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: a CNN who is saying something interesting here about vaccines 587 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: for kids under five play seven. Well, I'm ambivalent right now, John, 588 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: which is not something that I'd ever thought that I 589 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: would say about vaccines for under five year olds. I'm 590 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: the mom of two little kids under five. I can't 591 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: wait until they are vaccinated, but I would wait until 592 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: we find that the vaccines are safe and effective. And 593 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that we can say that at the 594 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: moment because we just don't have the data now. I 595 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: definitely understand the urgency that many parents are feeling and 596 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I can also understand the point of view that, hey, 597 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: if three doses are being studied in two doses will 598 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: give you some level of protection and the vaccine is safe, 599 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 1: then why not give it. Maybe some parents will make 600 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: that choice, but I also think that other parents would 601 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: want to wait until Oh, we know that three doses 602 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: will produce the intended effect. Gotta wait, kill three doses. 603 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: Clay Well, First of all, I give Lena Win some 604 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: small measure of credit for saying that the data doesn't 605 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: reflect that it works on kids under five. Where I 606 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: give her no credit is in the fact that these 607 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: kids are under zero, almost statistically zero danger from COVID. 608 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: And I just keep hammering this home because I know 609 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: our audience hears it. But I want maybe you grab 610 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: this segment from the podcast and you share it with 611 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: your friend and you say, hey, go look up the data. 612 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: This is actually true your kids. If you took your 613 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: kids to school today, which I did. I took my 614 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: fifth grader in first grader to school. I'll probably pick 615 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: them up at the end of the day today too. 616 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: My kids are under more danger of dying writing to 617 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 1: and from school with me in a car than they 618 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: are from COVID. My kids are under more danger of 619 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: being murdered than they are of dying with COVID. My 620 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: kids are under more danger of drowning. And my kids 621 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: are under really on average, more statistical danger from the 622 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: seasonal flu than they are from COVID. I bring all 623 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: of that up to say, who are these parents and 624 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: how are they so poorly informed that they believe that 625 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: their kids who are five years old and younger need 626 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: to be given an experimental vaccine for a virus that 627 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: poses them no risk, which, by the way, buck a 628 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: huge percentage of them have already had. We know the 629 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: percentage of kids that have had COVID is monstrous, just 630 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: based on how omicron has rolled through, but also based 631 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: on the alpha and the delpha delta and all the 632 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: other variants. This idea that kids don't already have antibodies 633 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: to COVID is mostly untrue for the vast majority of them, 634 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: And yet they're marching along with this, and there is 635 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: this fixation on getting children vaccinated. The what has been 636 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: done to kids during the pandemic in so many ways 637 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: is I think the most inexcusable aspect of fauciism, because 638 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: they have no say in this as we know, the 639 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: adults make all the decisions for them, and what we 640 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: see are a lot of neurotic and virtue signaling people 641 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: who themselves are of course at great, much greater risk 642 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: of any COVID complication or issue, walking around without masks 643 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: on indoors, outdoors, masking up their kids. Fixated on this. 644 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I saw CNNs while there's still 645 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: a CNN Jake Tapper saying that opening schools. We had 646 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: a sound bite on the sheet yesterday. We didn't use it, 647 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: but opening schools before kids are vaccinated, why should we 648 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: do that? Something to that effect. Sitting you're saying in 649 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: every infectious disease doc that I know, and I know 650 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of them, my friends who are a number 651 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: of them, and obviously more have been reaching out to 652 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: me Clay since we've been doing this show, they also 653 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. There is no basis for mandating vaccines 654 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: for children. That's completely outer world lunacy. I mean, that's 655 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: completely nuts, and really there's They wouldn't encourage any parents 656 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: to get their kids vaccinated unless there's a very specific 657 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: circumstance of lack of immunity. You want some entertainment. I 658 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: don't think you've heard this, Buck. We actually Haraldo. And 659 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: if you told me that I was ever going to 660 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: get in an argument with Haraldo in my life when 661 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I was like ten years old watching the Horaldo Rivera 662 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: show during school breaks. Listen to me and Haraldo right 663 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: here go at it over this exact issue, even though 664 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: The Atlantic is now saying there's zero evidence of it, 665 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: even though The New York Times is now running editorial 666 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: saying kids don't need to be en mask. A lot 667 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 1: of this is about risk tolerance. Joe Rogan's audience tends 668 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: to be younger. If you are in your twenties and thirties, 669 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: your danger from COVID is much lower than if you 670 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: are in your eighties. I have three elementary school age kids, 671 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: and no, I'm not getting because they're not in dangerous 672 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: very analysis is. I think that this should hotel failure here. 673 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: There should not be two standards for medical information about 674 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: the disease. If President Trump had joined early on, as 675 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: he later did with President Biden, and together they had 676 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: presented a united fronts of the American people, He's gonna 677 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: burst open. It was Joe Biden. I mean, you gotta 678 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna be a TV news guy, 679 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: you gotta have a fight with Roldo at some point, right, 680 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're gonna, by the way, another guy. 681 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: I will say this. Everyone says super nice guy. Everard 682 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: says haroldos a super nice guy, but everyone got worked 683 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: with at Fox. I've gotten along with well, but Harald 684 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: was just wrong there. I had to tell him, Yeah, 685 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: you gotta lay it down. We're gonna keep doing an 686 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: Hour three too. Fleet, Travis, and Buck Sexton on the 687 00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: front lines three