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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show Top Ways to Stay Cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a little warm out there, so here's some advice

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Speaker 1: from animals on how to stay cool. From fluttering to

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Speaker 1: fanning to self burial. These hot critters have some cool

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Speaker 1: tips that you probably don't want to try at home.

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Speaker 1: Discover this more as we answer the angel question what

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Speaker 1: kind of potato has a secret surprise inside? Joining me

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Speaker 1: today to beat the heat are the hosts of Let's

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Speaker 1: Learn Everything, Tom, Caroline and Ello. Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing where you're living? How what's

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Speaker 1: the weather like?

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Speaker 3: It's kind of chilly where I'm at right now. Ray, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty miserable here.

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Speaker 4: It is scorching here. So you guys can both have

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Speaker 4: a lovely time, is what I will say. I'm so

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Speaker 4: happy for you guys. That's great. No, it is literatingly

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Speaker 4: hot Europe in the US.

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Speaker 2: Europe is burning right now because of you know, global

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Speaker 2: warming and stuff. So we've escaped in the UK s

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Speaker 2: for now, for now, for now, no one will escape

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Speaker 2: in the end, the.

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Speaker 3: Most ominous way to start an episode.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I'm I'm in Italy, So it's not great.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're due for a I guess it's called

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Speaker 1: a reverse cyclone, which I suppose means that the air

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Speaker 1: just stops moving, which sounds bad and apparently it is.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 2: Here. It's going to be like forty degrees celsiu's plus

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's in paraheity.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's bad. Somewhere near near the hundreds, I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not good. It's not great. Time you're on on

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Speaker 1: the East coast in the US. It's pretty pretty hot.

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Speaker 4: There and it gets muggy, which is the worst part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're actually going to talk about why humidity sucks

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Speaker 1: so hard, scientific reasons why humidity is the worst, because

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about how animals cool off. And

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Speaker 1: you may or may not want to try some of these.

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Speaker 1: You probably won't.

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Speaker 3: But I'm so burying myself in a.

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Speaker 4: Hole anyway, I was gonna say, this is one of

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Speaker 4: our favorite things is being able to bring weird scientific

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Speaker 4: facts to party small talk. And this is like, this

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Speaker 4: is the best because anytime everyone's like, oh, in that weather,

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Speaker 4: I can be like, well, have you tried.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to get annoying every time, because every

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Speaker 2: time it's hot at a party, you're just like, well,

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Speaker 2: if you tried wiggling your body alone, you will.

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Speaker 1: For some of the advice that you may gather from

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Speaker 1: this podcast, I can't guarantee it will help with uh

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Speaker 1: making new acquaintances, but you know you can try. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a lot about evaporative cooling in

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Speaker 1: this episode, so a brief explanation of how it works.

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Speaker 1: When water evaporates, molecular bonds break, So this is a

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Speaker 1: process that requires energy. So energy is actually sucked out

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Speaker 1: of the surface where the water was and is released

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Speaker 1: into the air or water vapor This is why when

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Speaker 1: we sweat and we are outside and the sweat evaporates,

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Speaker 1: we feel a little better. So sweating, actually, even though

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Speaker 1: it's gross, helps cool us down. It provides a very

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Speaker 4: That makes sense.

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Speaker 2: But some animals don't sweat, right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Some animals don't sweat, and so they have

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Speaker 1: to come up with other options. But sometimes they still

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Speaker 1: use evaporative cooling. Just not through sweat. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: actually this is why humidity sucks so bad for us.

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Speaker 1: Is bad when it's humid, you still sweat. You might

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Speaker 1: think like, well, I get sweatier in humidity, and it's

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Speaker 1: not true. You're not getting sweatier. It's just that your

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Speaker 1: sweat is not evaporating. So there's so much water in

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Speaker 1: the air already the water has reached a saturturation point

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Speaker 1: and it's harder for new water to evaporate. So high

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Speaker 1: humidity can actually be quite dangerous. So at lower temperatures,

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Speaker 1: high humidity can overheat you faster because weat is no

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Speaker 1: why sort of the wet bulb temperature, where you're looking

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Speaker 2: So okay, that makes sense. Just so, wet bulb is

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Speaker 2: it actually feels to humans. Well, wet bulb.

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Speaker 1: Is the way you measure temperature in high humidity by

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Speaker 2: Yet, so I want to say there's a lot there's

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Speaker 2: time of year when it starts to get hot in

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Speaker 2: the UK and they're like, that's not hot. You don't

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Speaker 2: know what hot is because I live in Arizona or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But it's really really huge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, kay.

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Speaker 2: It does rain all the time, it rains constantly. It's

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Speaker 1: I for one, I'm not really in favor of gatekeeping

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Speaker 1: when people get heats, you know. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's really you know, because

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, there are many factors too that affect

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Speaker 1: whether you're suffering like you're I think also like the

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Speaker 1: architecture in the UK of architecture in Arizona in terms

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Speaker 1: out in the winter not in the summer.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. So you also don't have we don't have air conditioning.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge thing, right, Like, because if you're in

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Speaker 1: even if it's like one hundred and five outs outside,

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Speaker 1: you can still get heat stroke.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes wow perfect. I have literally I had

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Speaker 4: known about the concept of like evaporation and sweat how

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Speaker 4: that cools. I was like, yeah, I know that, and

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Speaker 4: I was familiar with the concept of humility. I'd never

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Speaker 4: put those two together to explain why it's so miserable

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Speaker 4: when it's muggy. That makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we just it's a you know, sweat

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Speaker 3: To be able to cool off. I would like what

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Speaker 1: So, as you guys noted earlier, some animals don't sweat

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Speaker 1: like birds, So how do you birds cool down? Have

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Speaker 4: Bird bath, burpath bird bath.

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Speaker 1: That is actually correct. One way that they cooled down

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Speaker 4: It's like manual sweat sweat.

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Speaker 1: Store bought sweat for when you don't sweat enough. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They've got really big wings, maybe they could use them

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Speaker 1: They actually can a life. Some birds will raise their

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Speaker 3: So elephants as and things like that, Like that's why

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Speaker 1: In fact, we're going to talk about elephants in some

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Speaker 2: That's is that like it's not a conscious thing, right,

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Speaker 2: That's it's like when our blood vessels expand in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, but it would be funny of like did

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Speaker 1: you remember to flow blood? Right? It's like when you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is. It is similar to that exactly.

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Speaker 1: And so speaking of cats and dogs, birds can pant

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Speaker 2: I bet that's so cute.

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Speaker 1: It's it is very cute. But they even have one

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Speaker 1: its throat just kind of fluttering. Oh, just kind of

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, wait, is that one of the pictures

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a owl a little owl doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think I also through a video.

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Speaker 2: I think I've seen birds do this and bit and thought, yes,

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Speaker 2: that they were doing some kind of vocalization that I

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Speaker 1: The vocalization is I'm too hord.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what they're communicating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, many bird species do this, from pelicans to owls.

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Speaker 1: So golar just means throat related and fluttering is fluttering,

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Speaker 3: So how does that actually help them cool down?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it is the same mechanism as dog panting.

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Speaker 2: About this animal advice we're going to talk about in

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Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, and on purel doubles.

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Speaker 1: None taking we see unless you're unless you're like an

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Speaker 3: You know what, if that is your thing, then you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was me, Caroline.

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Speaker 1: Yes, good job. I'm sorry for giving Ella any.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it for your audience who hasn't heard us before.

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Speaker 1: It's I think especially hard for Americans because it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: That it's true.

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Speaker 1: Yes, elephants do have those huge ears, and just like

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Speaker 4: This is really telling on the kind of nerd I am.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, oh, it's like a like a

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Speaker 2: That makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: are kind of similar in the way that their wings

440
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: give them lift in this very unique way where you know,

441
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: you have slow fires where you have lift that you

442
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: know kind of like how a plane where you have

443
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: air sort of flowing under the wing. But yeah, bees

444
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: and hummingbirds generate these like little little vortexes, vortices that

445
00:27:59,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: generate this.

446
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: This is also interesting can because we had on a

447
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: previous episode, I like very quickly dropped a fact that like,

448
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: while bees aren't like amazing at thermoregulating themselves, that hives

449
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: generally can stay at like a stable temperature. And I

450
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 4: had to like it was like a quick rapid fact

451
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: as part of like the bigger topic, and I never

452
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: got to look into it, and so now I feel

453
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: like I got to got to learn that, which is amazing.

454
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so they it's really interesting how they kind

455
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: of they do a bunch of things, like each each

456
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: worker will kind of do different tasks depending on need.

457
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: Some workers will actually kind of leave the colony just

458
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: to make sure there's like fewer bodies in there so

459
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't warm up so much. Pretty much, It's like

460
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: when you leave a summer party and you're just like,

461
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: I can't warm in here. You could sort of reframe

462
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: that as you being really altruistic, like I would stay,

463
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: but I care about you all too. They also will

464
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: send out, uh, some some of the workers will go

465
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: out and be basically living water jugs. They drink and

466
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: drink and drink, come back into the colony and they

467
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: just sort of spray it everywhere. They let their sisters

468
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: drink some of it, they'll recurgitate it for their sisters,

469
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: and then they'll also spray it over the colony and

470
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: then that helps cool things down. Then if you especially

471
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: when you have the combination of the little the little

472
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: fans and the water in the colony, then you have

473
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: evaporative cooling again. And so it's you know, it's really

474
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: amazing how they all kind of come together to create.

475
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: This so cool.

476
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Just what I think I've learned everything about bees, like

477
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: ten new cool things about them. Yeah, but I guess

478
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: so most bees are solitary bees, so I guess that

479
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: they don't have this system, they just have to hide

480
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: in the shade.

481
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they might use they might fan their

482
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: wings as well to cool themselves down. I think of yes,

483
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: definitely getting into cooler places. There are a lot of

484
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: bee species that are like they still build like sort

485
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: of rudimentary little burrows.

486
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

487
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: They yeah, because like there are there are a lot

488
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: of native bee species. We're talking about honey bees, but

489
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: native bee species that have very very different styles of

490
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: living where they don't live in colonies and they live

491
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: and reproduce on their own. They may live in loose

492
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: sort of like there may be a bunch of them

493
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: that live kind of in close quarters, but they're not

494
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: use social. They don't actually work together. They just kind

495
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: of live in similar areas and typically can get along

496
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, but yeah, it is It is very interesting.

497
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I think that once you have this use social system,

498
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: you start to get really weird and complex behaviors because

499
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: of that, the sort of the way that they give

500
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: different tasks, and by give different tasks, often that either

501
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: means through sort of pheromone signaling or you have just

502
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: the maturation of the female. So from from hatching to death,

503
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: Like a different aged female will do different behaviors. And

504
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: that's one way to kind of like make sure that

505
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: the tasks are kind of separated out the workers.

506
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: In this hot weather. I would like to remind everyone listening.

507
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: But you can get for your for your gardens. You

508
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: can get little solitary bee units with little holes in

509
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: that they can come and stay in when.

510
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: They're yes, carpenter. Bees love that. They love it. Yes,

511
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: And and you can also get like they're like these

512
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: waterstones where you can just it just like is a

513
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: small amount of water collected on it, but then that

514
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: helps bees, it helps other insects like rehydrate. So there're

515
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: lots of fun little things you can use in your

516
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: garden to make it a nice place for for bees. Yeah,

517
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I I think it's a

518
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: it is. I always love it when we kind of

519
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: make an effort to create housing for bees and for

520
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: a little insects. It's just so cute. It's like, uh,

521
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't be more different from us, but we're like,

522
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: would you like a little.

523
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: My parents. I got one for my parents' garden, and

524
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: I go and check on it when I see them,

525
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: And you can see like all the different holes getting

526
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: filled up like they block them over there. It's so cute.

527
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: I got I got one for my mom, and I

528
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: don't know if I accidentally got a haunted one, but

529
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: nobody wants to go in.

530
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: There because there's a ghosts.

531
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victorian ghost bees in there. Well, we are going

532
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. Do you an exorcism for

533
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: those Victorian ghost get that. We are going to talk

534
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: about a somewhat equally ghulish topic, which is burying yourself

535
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: to escape the heat. So one way to escape the

536
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: heat is going underground. Lots of animals who live in

537
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: climates where temperatures fluctuate wildly from being really cold at

538
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: night to being really hot during the day will burrow,

539
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: which helps them stay cool in the heat and warm

540
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: when the temperatures drop. So that's why, I mean, one

541
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: of the reasons we have so many burrowing animals, especially

542
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: in in environments that either get really cold or really

543
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: warm or both.

544
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: So like mia cats and those that makes so much sense.

545
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm merely caul about it.

546
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Some animals actually just skip the whole construction

547
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: aspect of burrows, like Mirkess will have these really nicely

548
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: constructed interlocking burrows, and some just are like e, I

549
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: can't be bothered, and then they can't bury themselves.

550
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh that is brilliant.

551
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: The Saharan sand vipers will undulate their bodies until they

552
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: are buried under the sand, which not only cools them

553
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: down but gives them an incredible hiding spot to lurk

554
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: until an unlucky victim walks by. They leave just their

555
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: eyes exposed. Their eyes are like covered by these horn

556
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: like projections that keeps the sand from getting eyes and

557
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: they wait and they just kind of rest there. They're

558
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: nice and cool and unbothered, and then if prey walks by,

559
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: they can just grab it.

560
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: Can I say this? You've shared with this? They are

561
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: so funny looking. They're like little eyes, so like they

562
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: look really cross eyed and weird, and their heads are

563
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: so huge. I love them.

564
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: They're very doofy looking. I in general love snakes, and

565
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: I understand that vipers can sometimes freak people out. But

566
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: of the vipers, I feel like this one is one

567
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: of the goofiest looking ones. So it's hard hard for

568
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: me to be scared of it, especially since there is

569
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: one that there's a video of one that buries itself

570
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: in sprinkles. I shared that with you guys, so I

571
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: will give you the next minute or two to just

572
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: enjoy that.

573
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 3: God.

574
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: I have God.

575
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: I need that in my life immediately.

576
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: You guys all have the linkage.

577
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: So I guess if you just give them anything to

578
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: bury themselves in, they will is the idea.

579
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Sand, anything that shares sort of the general physical properties

580
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: of sand, and they will bury themselves.

581
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

582
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: I love watching them bury themselves. I was gonna say,

583
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: you wiggle, isn't it.

584
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: With the sprinkles you can really see like how the

585
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: undulating motion works, like how it's kind of Yeah, it

586
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: looks so cool if you.

587
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: It's like when you're in a ball pit as a

588
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: little kid and you kind of like scoot your way

589
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: down to the bottom of the ball and they wait

590
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 1: for some other kid walk by and then grab them. Yeah,

591
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: that's what the sand viper does.

592
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: If you like these sand vipers, I'll say there is another.

593
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: There's a sand burying snake called the Kenyan sandboa, which

594
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: are really good beginner snake pets to have. I've always

595
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 2: wanted one. They're super cute and if you hold them,

596
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: they're very cute in your hand. They don't mind being handled.

597
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: They they'll like put their press the little heads in

598
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: between the gaps and your fingers because they're trying to

599
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: bury themselves in the sand, so they're like wiggle through.

600
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: It's super cute.

601
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: I think I think I saw one of those and

602
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: the owner got them. You know, those like turtle sandboxes.

603
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: Was that just an American thing or did everyone does?

604
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Everyone knowing? Yeah, like plastic turtle sand boxes. I had

605
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: one as a kid. They were a big thing, and

606
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: she got a mini one for her little sandbog And

607
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you just see this little sandburg go in and like

608
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: bury itself inside the little turtle sand box. That's thepe

609
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: cutest thing I've ever seen.

610
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: So sweet, Oh my goodness. I also love this is

611
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: a different animal, but I love watching I don't know

612
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: what species of spider is, but there's a spider species

613
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 3: that like uses his little legs and will like scoop

614
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: sand over its head and then it'll like lie really flat.

615
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: I don't think it's for calling itself down. I think

616
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: it is for camouflage, but like watching it do it,

617
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: I'm just like so fascinated by it. You know, they're

618
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: just like scoopoooop scoopy, and then they'll be like, oh,

619
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm not quite I'm not quite right, yew, and then

620
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: they'll really flat.

621
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: I'm glad we're all pro snake here, because if someone

622
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: was afraid of snakes and then saw this video of

623
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: a snake hiding in sprinkles, they'd be like, now they're

624
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 4: in my ice cream tune.

625
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: No, I loved it. The sixth Side sand Spider. That's

626
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: a spider that kind of lowers itself into sand and

627
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of scoop sand over itself. Yeah.

628
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one.

629
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Cute, so fun. Probably not cute if you if you accidentally,

630
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: like come upon it and you just see legs sticking

631
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: out of the sand.

632
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: But you know what, cute, that's never gonna be. We live,

633
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: I'm in England. That's not a situation I have to

634
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: worry about.

635
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: You know.

636
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 3: That's fine.

637
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I used to get scorpions in my room because I

638
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: lived in southern California and we lived next to a canyon.

639
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: So that was that was fun.

640
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: Toopping out that One't like that, No, no, no, no, no.

641
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: The real the real reason the Americans won the Revolutions.

642
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: We just told the bish that we have scorpions and

643
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: stuff like.

644
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't want to do with that.

645
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: So now I want to talk about an animal that

646
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: buries itself, but its process is far more complicated, kind

647
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: of grosser and really interesting. So this thing looks like

648
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: a snake, but it very much is not a snake.

649
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: This is the West African lungfish. It is an eel

650
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: like fish that is four hundred million years old in

651
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: terms of its species. It pre dates the dinosaurs.

652
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Holy, it hit a point in evolution and it was like,

653
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm perfect, I'm good.

654
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, never change yourself.

655
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Rather reason, there is no reason to evolve if you

656
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: continue to sex. If you continue to sex, she is

657
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: successfully reproduce, and there's no evolutionary pressures on you to change.

658
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: There's no reason for you to change. That's why we

659
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: have both species that are very new and species that

660
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: are very old. Evolution only happens when there's some kind

661
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: of pressure on you to evolve because whatever is whatever

662
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: is happening for you, your environment's changed, or things are

663
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: just not working for you, or there's sexual selection pressures.

664
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: But for these guys, they're cool with it, they're fine,

665
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: they're doing good. They are very strange looking to. Their

666
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: fins are sort of modified in the in that they

667
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of look like just these long like spaghetti arms

668
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: and legs.

669
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: I thought might be like a little whiskery things, but no, Yeah,

670
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: that's what they look like.

671
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: The sins they use that.

672
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 3: Kind of what does not do anything.

673
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, kind of help some flop around on land. I'll

674
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: explain why they're on land.

675
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: There are a lungfish.

676
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: So they're a lungfish. They do have lungs. They can

677
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: both use their gills to collect oxygen from the water

678
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: and lungs to breathe air. It has to breathe actually

679
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: every thirty minutes or so, otherwise the gills are more supplementary.

680
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so this is African lung In evolution, lungfish

681
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: are ones that they came out of the water, right,

682
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: and then they evolved back into the water because they

683
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: were like No, that's what I think we learned that one.

684
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: That's like the evolutionary process.

685
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: I mean, why they have both.

686
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they probably yes, I'm trying to remember

687
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: if this is the one, but I think this might

688
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: be because they Yeah, so they developed lungs. They were

689
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: able to breathe air, but they ended up really not

690
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: making the full transition to being a terrestrial animal.

691
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm not about this land thing.

692
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: You know. An animal who even did that more are cetaceans, whales, dolphins.

693
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: They were fully terrestrial, like uh, you know, walking on

694
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: land and everything, full on legs, and then they're like,

695
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: you know what, not for me, and then started to

696
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: become more and more aquatic through many, many iterations of

697
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: evolution until they completely ditched the lands.

698
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: Brings me so much joy.

699
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: At one point in their evolutionary history, they kind of

700
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: looked like a weird little deer thing whoa quite a deer,

701
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: but like this little thing that kind of had like

702
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: deer like legs. It didn't have hooves, but yeah, they

703
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: looked like weird little bambies. And then they just turned

704
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: into a whale.

705
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: All I'm picturing now is like a weird little dead

706
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: thing with human feet because like, as soon as you

707
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: say it hooves, that's exactly like that's what my brain

708
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: goes to, you know, horrifying.

709
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: Look up the evolutionary history of the whale, and for

710
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: some of the stages in its evolutionary history, you're not

711
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: too far off. There was a line version that looked

712
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: like an otter mixed with an alligator. It's weird. It

713
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: gets very strange. Yeah, So back to the African lungfish.

714
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: They live in environments where water sources can dry up,

715
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: which is bad if you're a fish. So they have

716
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: evolved to be able to go up on land and

717
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: bury themselves in mud. So during dry seasons they will

718
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: burrow into the mud and of course they can breathe air,

719
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: so they're okay in that sense, but they aren't really

720
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna do well if they dry out. They need, you know,

721
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: they need to have this like protective layer of mucus.

722
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: If they completely desiccate and dry out, they will die.

723
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: So they bury themselves and then go into a state

724
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: of estivations. So estivation is just like hibernation. It's just

725
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: during warm and dry hot seasons during like the summer,

726
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: versus during cold seasons like the winter. So they will

727
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: actually cover themselves in mucus which dries into a cocoon

728
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: and they will lower their metabolic rate and live off

729
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: of their own muscle tissues. Now, usually when we are

730
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: living off our own tissues, we kind of go off

731
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: of fat stores. This is true of a lot of

732
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: animals too, that hibernate or estivate. These actually eat consume

733
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: their muscle tissue, and they can stay in the state

734
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: of lowered metabolism inside their little mucous cocoon under the

735
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: ground for around a year.

736
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: Oh so cool, yea, so freaking cool.

737
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: You know, I'm seeing why they stuck around for so long.

738
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: They got and they got this sleep mode. That's amazing.

739
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, don't oh, I feel like when the

740
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: summers get really hot, it's just like I want to

741
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: be a little lungfish myself in mud.

742
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: I want to wake up and.

743
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: Myself in a cocoon of mucus and just like peace out.

744
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: You know, like not even when it's too hot, just

745
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: like any minor inconvenience to my life. But like I

746
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: just like go and hang out in a little muddy.

747
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: Thank you, it's not too much.

748
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm going in my mud.

749
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: That's so cool.

750
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: So actually, if you if you dig these guys up,

751
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: which you shouldn't because it messes with them. So but

752
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess unless you're gonna eat it.

753
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: I actually don't know if people eat these. They don't

754
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: seem very good like to eat.

755
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: But once you get past cocoon, it's actually pretty good.

756
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I've actually shared with you a clip of

757
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: some people digging one of these up and it looks

758
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: like a weird potato they find in the ground. How

759
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: they actually peel it and then like this fish plops out.

760
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 4: It's encasing, it looks like paper.

761
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: I was like, it's really thick.

762
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: I was very shocked to I thought this was a hoax,

763
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: and I had to do some serious research to sure.

764
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen those videos on TikTok of people

765
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: like pouring pepsi and mentoes into a hole and then

766
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: pulling out a fish. Yeah, that's what it feels like. Yeah, obviously,

767
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: but that's it feels like this.

768
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen those. Those are almost entirely hoaxes or like,

769
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: uh yeah, like we're like some fish kind of like

770
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: pops out of the ground. These are the only ones

771
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: I know of that will actually do stuff.

772
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 4: It's like a fish.

773
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: It's so it's so as well, and it's so the area.

774
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: That's so crazy.

775
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's why that cocoon is so important because

776
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: it helps seal in their moisture. It actually also it's

777
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: living tissue that can keep bacteria out and protect the lungs.

778
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh my ash. Once it becomes the rainy season, the

779
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: rain will soak into the ground these the soil will

780
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: become mud, the fish will rehydrate, and they just kind

781
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: of like come out of the ground like nothing, no

782
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: big deal, Like nothing happens.

783
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be My question was like, hey, that's

784
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: a good security, macha, but how are you going to

785
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: get out? But it's like a built in like timer

786
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: kind of a thing that like it detects. It is

787
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: also like those those little capsules that have like a

788
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: foam dinosaur in them and that you hydrate and then

789
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 4: they they yeah.

790
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently most people do occasionally eat lungfish, but well

791
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: people avoid it because they don't taste that good.

792
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: That's not basically what I thought. Something that makes a

793
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: mucus cocoon doesn't inherently sound delicious. Yeah, but I could

794
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: be wrong. I've been wrong before about like there are

795
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: certain animals where it's like there's no way anyone touches

796
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: this thing. But yeah, people eat it and they're like, yeah,

797
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: it's delicious, like really maybe sure, Yeah, maybe I'm the one.

798
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the one.

799
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: With the weird I'm the weird one.

800
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, these I think these one win the

801
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: prize for the most extreme method I'm avoiding, right, it's Yeah,

802
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: it is just unexpected because the little satchel that that

803
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: little mucus pouch that they're in, really it's like about

804
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: the size and shape of a potat you know, it

805
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a whole eel like fish should be

806
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: in there. But he just peels it like it's an orange,

807
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: and then the blong fish is it pops out very annoyed,

808
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: very frustrating.

809
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it looks like he's peeling like a

810
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: horn colp, Like that's what it looks like to me.

811
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

812
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that fascinates you about

813
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: this is just like the evolutionary steps to get to

814
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: this point, Like, you know, it's not like one lungfish

815
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: went down and suddenly buried and covered itself in mucus,

816
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: Like what were the steps before this that ultimately led

817
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: to this quite extreme adaptation. I think that's so interesting.

818
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, I

819
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: mean the behavior of a lot of mucus production probably

820
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: was beneficial before they were able to make these cocoons,

821
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: because the more mucus you create the more sort of

822
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: protected you are against drying out. And so probably like

823
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: over time, the fish that were able to produce more mucus,

824
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: we're the ones that ended up surviving until you get

825
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: to the point where, like they produce so much mucus

826
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: that even when they get completely dried out, they're like okay,

827
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: And so then you get to this this point, I

828
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: mean this is they're not completely unique in being able

829
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: to do something like this, right, Like, there are species

830
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: of mollusks molluscs like land snails and slugs that can

831
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: actually sort of coat themselves in a mucus to protect

832
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: themselves even when sort of like dried out. Frogs I

833
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: think also will sometimes bury themselves and cover themselves in

834
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: a protective mucus layer. So mucus is used by a

835
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of animals. Is sort of just like you know,

836
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: a suit of armor when it comes to drying out.

837
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: Always talk about mucus. Like the sweat thing before is

838
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: now making me think about how much mucus I have

839
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: in my throat and I can't stop thinking about it.

840
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, so far as the tools I've brought to this

841
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 4: party on how to cool yourself down are sweat piss

842
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 4: and you can.

843
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't say it was gonna be ready.

844
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: It's not.

845
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: Well, guys, Before we go, we do have to play

846
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: a little game which play every week. It is called

847
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: the Mystery Animal Sound Game. I Guess who's squawking? I

848
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: play a mystery animal sound, and you, the listener, and

849
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: you the guests, try to guess, Hey, who's making that sound?

850
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: So last week's mystery animal sound hint was this Squeakers

851
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: here doesn't like being handled. In fact, his own hands

852
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: have turned into something else.

853
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: What whoa?

854
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

855
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: You guys hear that?

856
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it.

857
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: It's a really like grinding sound.

858
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: I would assume it's some kind of insect. That's very

859
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: reminds you of like how crickets rubbed their legs together.

860
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it does. Yeah yeah, maybe it's claws.

861
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: They're like nails against each other.

862
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: Interesting guesses.

863
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: So is that?

864
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: So?

865
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you guys want to guess? Some kind

866
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: of inner?

867
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess an insect.

868
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm also wondering about your Yeah, the clue it doesn't

869
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 3: like to.

870
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: Be the clue.

871
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: Remind you the clue was squeakers here doesn't like being

872
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: handled in fact, his own hands have turned into something else.

873
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: You see.

874
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: That made me think of a mole or something. But

875
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't picture how a mole with

876
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: like big old dicky claws would make that noise.

877
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't I'm picturing a little, a little, a little

878
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: mousey friend that can maybe like grind its nails against

879
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: each other, like the teeth.

880
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, oh, my brain also just went

881
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: to teeth.

882
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, fast, I'm sticking with an insect.

883
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: These are all very very good guesses, are wrong, but

884
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: still guesses. This is the big brown bat. Yes, of course.

885
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: It is congratulations to listener Auntie B who guessed correctly. Wow,

886
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: this is the big brown bat. My hint. Of course,

887
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: the hands and arms of bats have turned into beautiful

888
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: effective wings.

889
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

890
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: The noise, yeah nice?

891
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah.

892
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: The big brown bat is one of the most common

893
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: bats found in North America. They are insectivorous and echo

894
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: locate to find their prey. That squeaking, clicking noise he's

895
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: making while it could be used for echolocation in this case,

896
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: it is a video of him being gently picked up

897
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: by a bat rescuer who is annoying this bat quite

898
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: a bit, so the bat is not happy. But yes,

899
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: they generally are quite social when it comes to their

900
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: own species. They live in colonies of hundreds of individuals

901
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: at times. But yeah, they are really effective insect hunters.

902
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: They can eat up to six hundred insects per hour.

903
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: So thank a big brown bat for making sure we're

904
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: not just completely covered.

905
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Thank you, big Wow the lazy dog.

906
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 1: All right, are you guys ready for this week's mister

907
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: amill sound? Let's do it all right? Here is the hint.

908
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Start your engines, fellows. This speedster is revving up, but

909
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: running is not exactly what's on his mind this time.

910
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that really does sound like an engine revinge.

911
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it is. It is the ferrari, the well

912
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: known species.

913
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: We're not guessing that one else.

914
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can guess and if you guess correctly,

915
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: I will just leave you out. And if you gits incorrectly,

916
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: I'll just you'll be public.

917
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: It makes me feel like a like a big cat

918
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: making like a sound like a high girl.

919
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't fit the clue at all, but

920
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: it does sound. It makes me think of like whale sounds, right,

921
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: that's like low uh, vibration.

922
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: I think it sounds. I don't know. Now I'm after

923
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: not understanding the last clue. I'm reading too much into

924
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: the next one.

925
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: Could it be an ape of some sort which is

926
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: going to be like swinging very quickly through branches rather

927
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: than because like that sounds, I don't know.

928
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: I feel like you can also just be a bird,

929
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: because birds make a lot of sounds.

930
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: Basically, we want to guess everything.

931
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: I would like to guess any is it?

932
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: Is it one of of is it some kind of animal?

933
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: You guys are guessing, Yes, you are corrected. Congratulation for

934
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: ruining my game.

935
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 4: You guess is that we got to split the prize strategy.

936
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Well, if you out there think you know who is

937
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: making that sound, you can write to me at Creature

938
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: feature Pod at gmail dot com. You can also write

939
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: to me your questions, which I periodically answer on Listener

940
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Speaker 1: Questions episodes. Sometimes I'll email back even depends on how

941
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, but I do. I always appreciate your questions,

942
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: and I tried to answer all of them. Guys, thank

943
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today. Hey, why don't

944
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: you tell the people where they can find you?

945
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: Well, we are Let's learn everything. The three of us together,

946
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: we are. We are Let's learn everything. We learn everything.

947
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: We have a science kind of podcast where we dive

948
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: into interesting science y things. You can find us on

949
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Speaker 2: all all podcast platforms. We're part of the Maximum Fun

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00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: Network and we do a lot of animal related content.

951
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh yes.

952
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: We actually did a topic on thermal biology which was

953
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: similar but didn't overlap, I don't think at all, which

954
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: was very interesting.

955
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Speaker 1: Did you talk about poop and did not?

956
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: I think we should have a meeting afterwards. Yeah, I

957
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: think that. I think that's.

958
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: What the dialogue I once talked about domesticating the process

959
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: of domesticating foxes. That's the kind of like big science experiments.

960
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: That uh huh so cute.

961
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember talking about trying to bring back the

962
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: dodo a. Yeah, that was such a such a good

963
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: pick a living bird.

964
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: This one was defeated by.

965
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Speaker 4: If you're also new, I think we just dropped a

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Speaker 4: best of episodes, So if you want to give a

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Speaker 1: A little Moves Booge Moves Booge.

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Speaker 4: And also, if you only only listen to exclusively listen

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Speaker 4: to podcasts with Katie on them well, very soon. I

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Speaker 4: think depending on when this drops, you will also be

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Speaker 4: able to listen to her on that podcast. Yeah, because

973
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 4: we have a little guest episode. Yeah.

974
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Speaker 3: But also if you want to find out like our

975
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Speaker 3: socials individually, if you want to do like our discord server,

976
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: et cetera, we've got a website.

977
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: It's let's on everything dot com.

978
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: Yes it is. Yes, we've recently changed it's let's learn

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Speaker 3: everything dot com so you can find all of the information.

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Speaker 1: Were great, Thanks, highly recommend, highly recommends.

981
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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. It's all fine.

982
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for coming on, and thank y'all out

983
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Speaker 1: there for listening. If you're enjoying the show and you

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Speaker 1: leave a rating and or review, I read all the reviews.

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986
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Speaker 1: you know, just thanks for listening. That's that's I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy being able to talk about animals pooping on

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Speaker 4: I'm yeah, sure, people don't know you do the whole

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Speaker 4: podcast in one breath, which is really impressive.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, reading notes.

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Speaker 3: Feels good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But my basic point is you can listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast anywhere, and I will see you next Wednesday.