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Speaker 1: You already know already, you know, look at it.

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Speaker 2: For this when I first of all, I want to

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting to get you in person. I wanted

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Speaker 2: Person, didn't field the vibe, but I couldn't wait no longer.

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Speaker 3: Man, I've been searching for you. But you already know.

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Speaker 3: I'm yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: But first question, we asked everybody when you first got

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Speaker 2: to the league, who was the first person to bust your.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's easy. My first welcome to the league was

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Speaker 3: Lebron d Wade and Chris Bosh and that Miami Heat team.

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Speaker 3: So it was the preseason game, but I still considered

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Speaker 3: it as my welcome. You feel me. So we played

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City, so you know that's a home trip

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Missouri.

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Speaker 3: I had I had crib coming down, so I had

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Speaker 3: the whole family there. We you know, I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: I say I couldn't get nothing going, and d Wade,

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Speaker 3: I'm reading the scounter reports. Scounter reportes stay down on

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Speaker 3: pump fakes. First thing he do spin right into my

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Speaker 3: ribs And I said, oh, okay, yeah, this is you

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Speaker 3: gotta lock in. We got a long way to go,

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Speaker 3: so it's a different level. Right they stole, They were

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Speaker 3: that was my welcome. My first time stepping on the

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Speaker 4: And that might be too, yo yo yo, live on location,

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Speaker 4: Me and the blackest one here in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: We got a very special guest.

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Speaker 4: Now we got NBA royalty right now, all all from

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Speaker 4: the low straight. Oh yeah, we gotta prit We got

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Speaker 4: miss the Saint Louis laid out of Saint Louis in

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Speaker 4: the building. This is mister Saint Louis. All started storing there.

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Speaker 4: All NBA too. Mister Bradley Bill in the building would

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Speaker 4: have man, we appreciate you coming through big time.

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Speaker 3: Fellas. I appreciate you having demands. You know, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Got to represent the night. Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Brand representing the building. Jordan Brand represented, I see you,

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Speaker 4: big Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Yes sir, yes, brought to you by the din style

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Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: The crib.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know about Saint Louis, Missouri. All the

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Speaker 2: dogs come from Saint Louis, Missouri, from East St. Louis, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Though we are all the same game. Don't worry about

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Speaker 3: Right now, if.

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Speaker 2: You from down there, you would know about you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because the hoop, the hoop is on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the water now. But Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 2: You know, you came up in Saint Louis. Who's some

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Speaker 3: Be, Like, oh, you already know you in there. That's

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Speaker 3: if our following was black yours? Right? Yeah. Larry, although

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Speaker 3: I feel like Jimmy should have made it to the league.

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Speaker 3: He definitely I think chose the wrong That's key man.

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Speaker 3: Like my older brother was my one of my favorite players, like,

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Speaker 3: that's far more important than the sports. Like the sport's

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Speaker 3: So when I grew up, football was my favorite sport. Right.

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Speaker 4: Ben was it was it being Maclamar, Well it was

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Speaker 1: You and you? And Barry called me.

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Speaker 4: Like he gotta watched to watch these two young boys

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Speaker 3: My era was crazy, like I feel like my era

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Speaker 3: She pressed me before I go to school. So I'm like, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about going.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Larry was different. For a fact, he

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Speaker 2: With shaking David Stern handing something you seeing every year,

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Speaker 3: So how was the draft for you? It was? I

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Speaker 3: So with the draft process, I didn't decide up until

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Speaker 3: Literally the last day, coach Donovan looked at me. He said,

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Speaker 3: he said, But I can't make it top three pick

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Speaker 3: is you even contemplating that? My mom literally said she

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Speaker 3: she literally told me. She said, you're going to the league.

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Speaker 3: You're not going back to school.

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Speaker 1: My dudes had to step in on this.

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Speaker 3: She said, you going to the league, You're not going

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Speaker 3: and I said, I got you.

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Speaker 4: So tell me this, what was your pre draft process,

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Speaker 3: So I actually worked out. I did all the skilled stuff.

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Speaker 3: I did, the meetings I did.

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Speaker 1: Meets don't count.

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Speaker 4: That's that's like a dinner, you know, you indepd mids

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Speaker 3: We didn't have I don't think we had pick up.

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00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: We weren't playing live mm hmmm. I think they cut

435
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: the live out my year. What a lot of guys

436
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: were doing shooting drills and stuff like that.

437
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: So y'all weren't working out against other players. Yeah, so

438
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 4: you might well have had meetings and stuff too. That

439
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: was that was That was it all you could do.

440
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 4: That's like a stage.

441
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 3: You worked out against other guys when you had the

442
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: individual workouts for the teams. So like, I only had

443
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: three workouts. So I worked out for Cleveland, Oh, Cleveland, Charlotte,

444
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: and Washington. So you knew Washington was going to pick you.

445
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: That's the wild story, right, And so draft Night, which

446
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: is the biggest blessing area. So draft night is my birthday.

447
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 3: I turned nineteen.

448
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: Oh, now that's crazy. Has anybody ever been they had

449
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 4: a draft night?

450
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: So I turned nineteen, and I'm sitting at the table

451
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 3: and my agent is literally saying it can be Washington

452
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: or Cleveland. Right, So it's three and four, but Charlotte

453
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: sitting at two. And Charlotte's thinking about trading their pick, right,

454
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: And so literally, my agents he nudges me, Ad goes

455
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: one right to New Orleans. He nudges me and says, yeah,

456
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: Okac is thinking about trading for number two to get you, right,

457
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 3: And so they were thinking about trading James to Washington

458
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: for the number two pick. I said, number two, number

459
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: three pick, and then picking me, And so I would

460
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 3: have been with KD and Russ and James would have

461
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: been in Washington.

462
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

463
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, well, that is that gonna work?

464
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: I didn't even work out for them. I ain't meet

465
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: with him, none of that, right. So on top of that,

466
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: they were saying Cleveland might trade up from four up

467
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: to two to get you to keep Washington from drafting.

468
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: And so sure enough, Charlotte doesn't trate to pick they

469
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: take Gilchris number two, and so I knew for sure

470
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: I was going through to Washington.

471
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: After you get to Washington, you look at the roster,

472
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: then of course you see John wall on that roster.

473
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Like how was that to see somebody that you just

474
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: seen come through college and see another dog and the

475
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: process of like, man, I'm gonna prove myself and I'm

476
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: finna get down.

477
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: How was that? Coming into It was dope for me

478
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: because I knew John from high school, so I had

479
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: a previous relationship with him. So that made that transition

480
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: easier for me.

481
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: So you knew it like we about to come ahead.

482
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: Our game makes very well, like he pushing, I'm just

483
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: flying the lane off the ball guard, ready to shoot.

484
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: So but the flip side of it, my rookie year,

485
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: he was injured at the beginning of the year. We

486
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: had him name name big a Mecca, Okapher. Those were

487
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: all big vets. Yeah, so they were all hurt and

488
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: so I'm literally thrown into the fire as a rock.

489
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: I have no idea what to do. I have no

490
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: idea what's going on. I'm trying to learn all these

491
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: new concepts, these new coverages, new terminology and all that

492
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: and the game is going on hundred my housepower but

493
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: the embrace words. So I had a great coach in

494
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: Sam Cassell. He my OG to this day two point

495
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 3: games that I have two point games, is that what

496
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: we call. Sam was my man. So he was my

497
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: og vet, he was my coach and he helped me

498
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: along the way. Man, I definitely credit him because it

499
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: was a lot of long days and he was in

500
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: the gym with me, working me out, you know, teaching

501
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: me how to get to my spots, teaching me the game,

502
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: showing me who to watch. It was tough. It was

503
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: a tough transition. I'll say that because one we were losing.

504
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: We lost like the first twenty eight games or something

505
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: like that, like something grace and I'm like, I'm like, damn, man,

506
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: I've never lost as many games my life. I don't think.

507
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 4: Tell me how that was for you, because like a

508
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: lot of people don't understand, like that's part of it.

509
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: When you that top two or three or five pick

510
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: that you go to some trash on the team side

511
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: and then you about.

512
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: That loser can mentally fuck you. Yeah, like you're going.

513
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: From you said you just want to the elite elite.

514
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: He you done competed for championships in high school and

515
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 4: all that. Now you don't want gold medals. Now you

516
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: come here and you say you lost twenty eight straight.

517
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: You lose so many games, But I don't know if

518
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 3: it was twenty eighth straight, but it felt like it

519
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: was twenty eight straight. It was like I want to

520
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: say a record was like five and thirty at one time.

521
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: It was something crazy. I'm just like we I've never

522
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: been a part of something like this. Yeah, And like

523
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: you said, like that's the only thing about being the

524
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: top pick is you're gonna go to an unfortunate situation

525
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: to where they rebuilding, they may not be that good,

526
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: and you in that environment to where sometimes the team

527
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: would get used to losing, and that is the worst

528
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: sh ever, Like, yes it is. You lay them up

529
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: every night knowing that you're gonna get your head beat in,

530
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 3: Like that is never fun because I start losing interest.

531
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: Guys don't care, you know, practices become whatever.

532
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: But everything.

533
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just makes you not even want to be there,

534
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: make you not want to who it question who you are,

535
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: like you question yourself, like am I like what am

536
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: I doing something wrong? Like I'm not good enough. I

537
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: got all the way to the mountaintop to do this.

538
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I definitely feel I feel like that

539
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: might have challenged me more than anything, just dealing with losing.

540
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Like talking to yourself. I'm not a loser. I know,

541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a loser.

542
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: I know a few times like I'm like, if you

543
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: look around the locker room, you know, cats be laughing,

544
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: cats will go out, and I'm like, damn, y'all don't care,

545
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: Like nobody caring here and it's to be tough. Those

546
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: were some rough rough times, man, for sure.

547
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: Paul Purce came to your team, y'all team that year,

548
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: When Paul Pierce came y'all team, it felt like it

549
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: kind of gave y'all a little spark to have a champion,

550
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: a guy like Paul. What did Paul Price bring to

551
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: y'all team? That kind of helped y'all get over the hump?

552
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I couldn't stand Paul before he got to

553
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: our team, talk trash talking, crazy. But when he got there,

554
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: I understood why he did what he did and who

555
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: he was right he riding with who he went, he

556
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: riding with him, and he kept that same mentality. First

557
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: man in the gym, last one out at year fifteen, sixteen,

558
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: whatever it was. He was with us, Like to us,

559
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: we like, that's crazy, Like he's stealing here doing his

560
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: same spin, moved, step back, punk, fake, working out routine regiment,

561
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: like he's still doing the same thing. And so like

562
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: to us, were like, that's a champion, Like he been there,

563
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: he's grinding it out and he's still in the league.

564
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: And he just fed that advice to us. Because Johanna

565
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: and I we were young. We were trying to learn

566
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: how to lead, like how to be a pro, how

567
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: to be a real pro bro right, you know, we

568
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: can lead by example, but how do we do it vocally?

569
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Like how do you pull it to the side, correct them,

570
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: you know, without cussing them out all or the case

571
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: may be. So like it was, he was perfect for us,

572
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: and he carried us in the playoffs, made a game

573
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: winner for us, kept us alive in the series, almost

574
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: made the game winner in the next game for us.

575
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: It was dope, man, I'm happy I got to play

576
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: with the Hall of Famer man, Like you don't. You

577
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: don't get them opportunities all the time. So I soap

578
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: in a lot from Pete.

579
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Who is stilled the off season work ethic, because I

580
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: watch your game real closely because you know, like I said,

581
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: you're from the crib, and I always try to make

582
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: sure I'm paying attention to my guys. And I see

583
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: how your game evolved. I've seen how some moves that

584
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: you didn't do that your previous year. Before the next year,

585
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: you're doing that dribble wise, I see how you dribbling

586
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: skills and got up to part how you can go

587
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: through screens, split screens and do.

588
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: Even more than you was doing when you was coming there.

589
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Who is stilled the work ethic told you like getting

590
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: that gym and get that shit done.

591
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Always credit my parents. I always credit my parents for that.

592
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 3: My mom taught me how to hoop, and I would say,

593
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: all the way up until my junior year, she was

594
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: my workout coach until Drew Hanlin, who worked me out.

595
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: Now that's when we started working when I was a junior, right,

596
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: so up until them, my mom was the one. You know,

597
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: I would have thirty have a great game, and literally

598
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: she'll take me back to our home wreck and say, no,

599
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: we're right back in the gym. And so like she

600
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: pushed me beyond measure. Like she pushed me to the

601
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: limits I wanted to quit. Nobody's ever done that. She's

602
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: the only person in my life that really made me

603
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: want to quit the game of basketball because of how

604
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: hard she pushed me. Now her, I am twenty seven

605
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: years old, Like I understand that I got two young

606
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: boys now, Damn, I get why you pushed me the

607
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 3: way I did. And to see my confidence now, and

608
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what I credit everything to now,

609
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: de minds, Like it's just my confidence, like I put

610
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: in at work every single summer. I've been doing these

611
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: moves in high school and trying to do them. You

612
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: know through college. Granted your role, you have a role.

613
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: When you get to the those opportunities don't always come.

614
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: And so I credit coach Brooks for this as well,

615
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: because when he took over, he let me handle the

616
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: ball a little bit more. He said, I want you

617
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: to come over come of guard point guard slash too

618
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: versus a strictly off ball guard. And so once he

619
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: kind of gave me that green light, I was like, Okay,

620
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: well you really got to tap into your handle. You

621
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: got to really do it. And a lot of it

622
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: is just try and shit, Like I literally go out

623
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: in the game and I'm like, I'm not gonna know

624
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: unless I do it right. And so I literally took

625
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: probably when Coach Brooks is our first year, that's when

626
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: I really started, Okay, I'll just try it like I

627
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: would lose the ball sometime. I will maybe me rip sometime,

628
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: but I'm like, okay, that's what I need.

629
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say.

630
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: Because I kind of feel like part of your real

631
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: ascension where you took off, it kind of happened by

632
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: default when John got hurt because just being able to

633
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: be responsible for that much. It was like before when

634
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: he did, you don't even gotta expand and do as

635
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: much because y'all dynamic duo on y'all he doing this.

636
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: But then like that's when I saw like I can.

637
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: Remember telling d Mans, telling Drew Good and I'm like, nah,

638
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: I ain't no goddamn Red Bill had all this to him,

639
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, like yo, handu the

640
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: den just like okay, now I could go Ford the fifties.

641
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: Like I was like, hold up, like okay, now my

642
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: running mate gone. So now I gotta assume his responsibility too,

643
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: and it was just like you just morphed into what

644
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: you are now read with it.

645
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: And so that's exactly what happened. And as unfortunate as

646
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: it was, like John had kind of like a two

647
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: year spurt where he didn't play like so he was

648
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: hurt exactly two years ago. And that was really the

649
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: first time I had to crack the shell and be like, okay,

650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: well right, you got to handle the ball. You gotta

651
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: be more of a creator, learn how to read defenses,

652
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: pass the ball out of it, you know what I'm saying,

653
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: and create for yourself. And so that was another, you know,

654
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: role of adversity because I've never been in that role, right,

655
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 3: And we weren't that good either without John, and so,

656
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, now, a lot of the

657
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: pressure is on you, and you got to be able

658
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: to go out there and try to figure it out

659
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: and try to help your team win. And so at

660
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: first she was a struggle, but then the second year

661
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: I knew what to expect. Our new teams are going

662
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: to double team me. Our new teams just gonna track

663
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: me on. New teams just gonna have hands, but they

664
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: best defended on me deny me. I knew all that

665
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: it was coming, so I was a little bit more prepared,

666
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: and it was just a matter of being more confident,

667
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: like trusting the work, ethic and that and all that.

668
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: I was Michael Jordan quote that I love. He always said,

669
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: I don't fear nothing because I trust the work that

670
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: I put in. Like like if you trust whatever, you know,

671
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: the work that you put in in the summer, you

672
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: believe in and you continue to master it and you

673
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: just go in the game with confidence, You're good.

674
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: And plus I gotta feel like a party was like

675
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: a kid in a candy store, like cause you know,

676
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: all of us go through our career want to be

677
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: the man, wanting to be asked to do this and

678
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: ask to do that and get that responsibility.

679
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: And then like here you are.

680
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: You know, you've been doing all of this and doing

681
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: all that, and like you said, it's the you know,

682
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 4: that's the worst past scenario because your boy John hurt.

683
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: But at the same time, somewhere we true to this.

684
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: This is what we do.

685
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 4: Like a part of you is like relative is like yeah,

686
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: and then it's like you know what I'm saying, Like

687
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: you say, you're going out there trying to try and stuff,

688
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: and like once you start having success, I know that

689
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: had to feel like yeah, like you know what I'm saying,

690
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 4: like this me, I'm out here.

691
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and you got to show up because

692
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: everybody want to be the man too. It's time to

693
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: be the man right exactly, And not everybody's built for it.

694
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: Not everybody can handle the pressure that comes with it,

695
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: like win, lose, the draws your fault. Yeah, don't up.

696
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: And that's something you got to learn. That's something you

697
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: got to accept, something you got to deal with the media,

698
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: something you got to deal with. You know, do your

699
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: teammates think that way? Like it's a lot that take

700
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: to be in a man and so a lot of times,

701
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 3: you know, you get situations where you got young guys

702
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: on your team who want to be that and let's

703
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: say you go down, I get hurt. You know, now

704
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: you've got to be thrust it into their role and

705
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: you're struggling. You know what I'm saying. You see, it

706
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: ain't that easy to do. It ain't just like it

707
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: ain't like I could just snap my finger and I'm

708
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: just out here just doing what I do. Like, no,

709
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: this is a time to build. Is took time to

710
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: really you know what I'm saying. Perfect, And so do.

711
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: That help you with your like game Man's make it

712
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: like you be game Man's in like a point guard.

713
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: Now that you had a ball in your hands so

714
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: much that you know, like all right, well were playing

715
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: this game. These guys went up eight, Let me come

716
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: down and get a little more, or let me get

717
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: these these guys involved and so forth on.

718
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: For show, like because the game slowed down from me,

719
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: like as I you know, as you get older in

720
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: the league, you become everybody start running the same stuff.

721
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: Everybody defense has become looking the same place, all the

722
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: same tech, everybody taking from another team. So you learn

723
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: all of this stuff and you it's just off. You know,

724
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: you play certain players so many times. You know how

725
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: he defends like I know, he filed a lot, you

726
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So he jumped too much. He

727
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: alas jumping and shit jump with you know, he's aggressive.

728
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: As I've you know, grown in the league and constantly

729
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: developed my game, like the game just slowed down, and

730
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: so I'm able to just not take possessions off, but

731
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: take possessions where I'm just creating a passion or not

732
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: necessarily being involved, and then I get mine. I'll run

733
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: off six straight, seven straight, eighth straight, whatever the case

734
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: may be. And in you're going that way, like I

735
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: can always get going. I just need to see one

736
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: go in. Straight up? How was it?

737
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: This was big for the city, This was big for

738
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: everybody back home to see you and Jason in the

739
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: All Star Game together, Like, I was so proud of

740
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: you boys, man, just to see you boys on TV

741
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: represent man, Like, how was that for you man?

742
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: To see the young fella with you and just see.

743
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: Like we from the towns and we represent it.

744
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: It's still surreal, man, because we got so much talent

745
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: here and I finally feel like we're being recognized for it,

746
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: you know. And I feel like our young dudies are

747
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: taking advantage of their skill set and really perfecting their

748
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: craft and trying to get her. And so I'm super

749
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: proud of Jason because I've been knowing him since he

750
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: was in diapers. Yeah, so that's that's amazing to be

751
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: able to see his journey, be a part of his journey,

752
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: and to compete against him at this level. You know,

753
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: we go at it when we play each other, but

754
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: then to be on the same floor, on the same

755
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: team as starters in the All Star Game, Like that's

756
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: the highest level of basketball, the stars among stars. You

757
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I take pride in that. You know,

758
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: I don't take that for granted, bro, because you know

759
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: where we're from, and it's hard to make it out

760
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: and it's hard to make it to where we're at,

761
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: and it's also hard to stay where we're at. And

762
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: to see us both doing it and sustaining it, you know,

763
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: with good you know, good heads on our shoulders. Man,

764
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: It's dope.

765
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: All they gonna talk about that for hundreds of years

766
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: right there. Man, that's a moment, man, for the guys

767
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: to see. Man, and Larry was talking about that, man

768
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: and that was just a proud moment from the balls

769
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: before and like the youth coming up to see that man,

770
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: to see all on top like that doing that, like

771
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: especially from the crib.

772
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: You know how it is around where we're from.

773
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Man, it's hard to hope for something, it's hard to

774
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: dream for something when this is all you see every day.

775
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I'm saying.

776
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm telling folks, like our news be like an action

777
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: movie and it's just the news.

778
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: Can you remember the first time when you made the

779
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: Rising Stars All Star Game, like just knowing that you're

780
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: about to be a part of All Star because I

781
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: can remember, like you know, we either one of us

782
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: got to make the real All Star Game, but I

783
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: know we made the Rookie game first couple of years,

784
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: and just every time I got to go, whether it's

785
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 4: for the three point contest, it was just always special

786
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: because I know you only get that one first time. So,

787
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: like you know, you've been watching it all these years

788
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: growing up on on TV and stuff. How was it

789
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: for you to be a part of your first All

790
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: Star weekend when you got there, you know, using the

791
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: rookie game?

792
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: Man, So the rookie game is dope. You know you

793
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: always you want to be amongst the best in your class.

794
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: You don't want to be us, you know what I'm saying.

795
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: You want to make up.

796
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: To the hype.

797
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: Ruar it up. That was fun? Uh And and I

798
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: was a shooter, so I am I protect in the

799
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: in the three point contests, so from and I came

800
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: in second. I'm so hot about that.

801
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: CD. You can't be part of this conversation, right, Just.

802
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 4: You hold on, like, so let me ask you this

803
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: though three point contests, this look the first one, because

804
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: the first one I got in I tricked off too.

805
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: So look, tell me if this happened for you. You

806
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: be all cool, you know, you do a little shoot

807
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: around all that. Then you're on the bench, you're telling

808
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: everybody shooting and shit, it's your trying to go get

809
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: on that sit on that little block.

810
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Boy.

811
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: It hits you down. It's like, hold up, the whole

812
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: damn world is watching me. Ain't nobody to mess up.

813
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: It ain't nobody to me to scull on this just

814
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: me and nobody else in the world.

815
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: The sickest thought for me is when you starting in

816
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: that corner, I'm like, just please, don't hit the side

817
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: of the back.

818
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: I shot an airball my first shot, like because I

819
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: was trying like, look the year I one.

820
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: Bro the year one.

821
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 4: On my final round when I won that the first

822
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: shot outside was an air trying to be all you know,

823
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: you're trying to like, let's not go too fast and

824
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: not be too hype.

825
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: Let's me airball. Damn, That's exactly I was. And then

826
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: once I once you get off the nerves, you be

827
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: solid and then all of a sudden, Man, you just

828
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: get tired and you're looking at that clock and get rushing.

829
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, man.

830
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: See that's just the difference between me and about your

831
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: fall and you just getting them everything. He just said

832
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: that none of that applies to me because you're talking

833
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 4: to a set shooter and you're talking to a jump shooter.

834
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: Right here. He is a legit. He like ray y Allen,

835
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: he jumped.

836
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: You know me, man, I can damn there not even

837
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: jock a flat putshoot there. I'm gonna toe. That's how

838
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: I look. Everybody know. I'm gonna get through every hreck

839
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: with no problem. Am I gonna make the mother, But

840
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna not get him off and I'm not

841
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: gonna be tired.

842
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 3: I get him off with so much easy.

843
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: But it was like that was the whole part of

844
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: that thing, because it's that's the magic of the three

845
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 4: point contests. Like you gotta hurry up, but you gotta

846
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: take your time. You gotta be fast, but you gotta

847
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: still go slow.

848
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

849
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: It's a crazy median and you can't let yourself get

850
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: hurried up inside.

851
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told myself I'll do it again.

852
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you got gonna hand win one.

853
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: Man. You gotta get it up. Man, I gotta get one.

854
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: I gotta get one.

855
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: Speaking the scoring title, you have an opportunity to win

856
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: the scoring title. You and Steph Curry going down the

857
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: stretch of the season. You know, y'all fighting and getting

858
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: the playoff spots. Man, this is what real ballers live for.

859
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Like I embrace it. It's tough because I try to

860
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: ignore and it's tough to do because that's all people

861
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: want to talk about. But it never was a goal

862
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: of mine, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm a score.

863
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: I've always been a score, and so for me, it's

864
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: just a matter of cannot be better than I was

865
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: last year. Like I compete against myself, like nobody in

866
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: the league that I'm competing against, right, And that's my mindset.

867
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: And the biggest thing is I haven't been in the

868
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: playoffs in three years, right, and so that's my ultimate goal,

869
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: right And whatever it looked like if I got to

870
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: go get sixty, I'm gonna go get sixty whatever for

871
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: us to win. That's what I gotta do. But to

872
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: be a part of history, man, And you know, to

873
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: being this race with Steph Is. It's crazy because he's

874
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: playing at an unbelievable level. Like I was playing good

875
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: all year and I felt like I was gonna cruise

876
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: all through and then he come out of nowhere, found

877
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: found he went crazy and going crazy and he's still

878
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: going crazy. So it's been dope, man. Regardless of how the

879
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: chips fall at the end, I ain't gonna be a

880
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: sour patch like I, Oh no, it's nothing to be sour.

881
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: But like, bro, you can put yourself into school, like

882
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: you walk in the bucket like you feel.

883
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Me like you just said whether you had to get

884
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: fifty six?

885
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: Like, please take me into the mindset of a sixty ball.

886
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: How do you take it from thirty to forty with

887
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: another figure to sixty?

888
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: Like when you get in those like I'm talking about,

889
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: I don't even know how I would know how to act.

890
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: My career has forty four and I was acting a

891
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 4: damn donkey boy.

892
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: You are you talking about celebrating?

893
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: Boy?

894
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: I was at there.

895
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: I needed some extra celebrations.

896
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: I need it. I don't have enough antics for that night.

897
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: Sixty Well, yeah, I'm like, I don't know what I

898
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: might do. Man, you definitely that basically look huge. You

899
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: know that it was crazy. So before that Philly game,

900
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I played horrible. I think I had

901
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: a horrible shoot night. And so I literally just went

902
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: back and watched just some clips earlier that year of

903
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: good games. I always just try to fill my mind

904
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: with positivity, right, So I look at stuff I will right,

905
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: I know this stuff I do bad, I watch it,

906
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: but I always just try to really outweigh with positive energy. Right.

907
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: And so just seeing the ball go in, just watching

908
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: some clips and then I go out and shoot around

909
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: for the game, you feel good. But the biggest thing

910
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: for me in those moments is stay aggressive because it's

911
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: easy to be. Okay, I got thirty on cool No,

912
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: keep going stay aggressive. And it's not even about constantly scoring.

913
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: It's about putting pressure on the defense. Keep pressure on them, right,

914
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: And the biggest thing for me is if I know,

915
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: if I see one going in, I'm feeling good that

916
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: I feel like there's nothing you can do with me.

917
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm a three double score. I can shoot the three.

918
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: I can play in the mir range, which I love

919
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: because a lot of teams want to give that up anyway,

920
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of something I catered and manipulated,

921
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: like if y'all want to give it up, okay, I'm

922
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 3: gonna just match this and perfective. Got to figure something out.

923
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 4: Look, two, kling, know nothing about that three level scores

924
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: and stuff.

925
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: You know, you don't know nothing about that, Go ahead,

926
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: carry on. So if you don't want to respect, you know,

927
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: giving me a three, I'll take the mid range. And

928
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: then once I kill you there, you come up. Now

929
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: I plan to my hesitation, I put I get really

930
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: into my package and I can finish at the rep right.

931
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: And so at that point, I'm just staying aggressive at

932
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: all times, like it doesn't matter who's in front of me,

933
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 3: It don't matter if I have a pick, Like any

934
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: moment of space is going up. And for me, I

935
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: think that game I had twenty seven at half, and

936
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: then the first play of the second half, I got

937
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: a wide ass open and pick and roll three. And

938
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: that was thirty at the beginning of the third. So

939
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, this is gonna be a special night, right,

940
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: And so I just kept it going. And then and

941
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: then you just having fun, You just and and that's

942
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 3: when it just naturally just flowed, like your opportunities come

943
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: and then I feel.

944
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 4: Bro, you hear fifty three and fifty five back to

945
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: back days like not you.

946
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying?

947
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: Like, and that was that ain't been done since Kobe

948
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: did it in like oh seven or something like bruh,

949
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: Like what that feel like?

950
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: Like?

951
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: How like?

952
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 4: And then did you get like when they like you

953
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? Like, first you do that, you

954
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? Then they tell you like, man,

955
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: ain't nobody did this since Kobe or something like what

956
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: what that feel like?

957
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: So it was wild? So we it was against Chicago

958
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: fifty three and then Milwaukee the next night, I have

959
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: fifty five, So.

960
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: You don't forget this type of shit? Did you see

961
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: how you Wright process? This ship is at the stone

962
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: and go ahead?

963
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: In Chicago? That was like one of the last games

964
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: we needed to keep our playoff chances alive, you know

965
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I really just went out there

966
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: just trying to do all I could. And then once

967
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: I seen the game pulling away, coach me and I'm like,

968
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna keep fighting. I was. I had like

969
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: forty something, so I come down, I get a layup

970
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: on at fifty and I knew my career high it

971
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: was fifty two, so I'm like, okay, well this game

972
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: pretty much over. You can at least try to get

973
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: the career high. And so I literally got a rebounds,

974
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: came down pour to three, boom fifty three. But we lost,

975
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: and I was steaming. I mean steaming right because I

976
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: know the next I'm like, I gotta do this again

977
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Like we were playing Milwaukee. You know they

978
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: gonna defend you crazy, they ain't gonna let you getting

979
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: one off. But I came out with the same mentality

980
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 3: first play the game, made a little pick and roll jumper.

981
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: I said, okay, I'm still hot from last night. I'm

982
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: still high, and sure enough, I just kept rolling Kevin Rowling.

983
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: We went down. I helped bring us back in the end.

984
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: I think I had like eighteen straight in the end

985
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: and coming up short and overtime. But I had fifty

986
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: three to the night before when I knew that, So

987
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll at least try to beat this when

988
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to, and I got fifty five.

989
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 4: You played basically like your whole career to this point

990
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: with John Wall Like, tell me, how was it for you?

991
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: When he, after going through all of the injuries and stuff,

992
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: the team decides to move on for him. How was

993
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: it for you when you found out about that and

994
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: you already talked about your relationship, go back to high

995
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: school and all that, Like, how was that for you?

996
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: It was tough. It was tough because up until the

997
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: day it happened, like we were we kind of communicated,

998
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: you know, he came by the house, we was getting

999
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: ready for camp. You know, it was always it was

1000
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: a lot of like noise and the rumors were out

1001
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 3: there about the trade, and so we really like we

1002
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 3: just met up before camp. I was trying to clear

1003
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: it up, you know what I'm saying, And next thing

1004
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: I know, boom, twenty four hours later, the GM caused me.

1005
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we're making this move, and it was

1006
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: like a situation kind of like out of my handance

1007
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 3: type thing. So once it gets to that point, it's

1008
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: like you understand the business part of it, and it

1009
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: might have been like the biggest time I've seen it

1010
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: because I've never seen a team move on from a

1011
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: franchise guy, right, And so that was it definitely hit

1012
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: both of us. Man, it was an emotional time for

1013
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: both of us, Like it was a tough transition for

1014
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: him because he loved DC. This is this was like

1015
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: his second home.

1016
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's all he knew too as well.

1017
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: All I know, right, And so it was tough. It

1018
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: was definitely tough. But you know, on the flip side

1019
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: of it, we seen what we were getting in return

1020
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: and who you know, and uh, you know, we just

1021
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: left the chips forward they may and you know, it

1022
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: looked like it played out pretty good.

1023
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: So like you playing with mister triple double, like what

1024
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: have you learned from him by playing with Restbrook? And

1025
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: like what have you took from him by seeing how

1026
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: he worked?

1027
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: Because he's a unique play I would say it is

1028
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: crazy playing against him, right, because you're playing against him.

1029
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: You see him, you see his numbers and you see

1030
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: him from afar, Right, You're like, I ain't no way

1031
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: he doing this every night. You know, it's ain't no

1032
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 3: way he doing it. You know he pad in stacks

1033
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: And then to see him do it on a ninety

1034
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: basis with you, like that's it's crazy because you see

1035
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: him banged up, he injured, and he still go out

1036
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 3: there and he get it effectively, Like they're effective triple doubles,

1037
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: Like and that is is mind blowing, like because it's

1038
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: energy after energy, It's like, how do you do this

1039
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: every night? Like you don't gonna be nice, you don't

1040
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: feel it, you don't want to go out, I don't

1041
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: feel like you know, I ain't feeling it tonight. He

1042
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: channels himself to do it every single night, and I

1043
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: would say, there's like that's that's probably my biggest thing

1044
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: that I took from him, like his mentality and his

1045
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: approach to the game, like he know he a bad

1046
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: motherfucker when it comes to this game. Nothing nobody can

1047
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: tell him, nothing nobody can there's nothing. He feels like

1048
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: he got to prove right, like he doing what he

1049
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: know how to do. He doing what he blessed to do.

1050
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: And that's one thing he told me on they Want.

1051
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: He always just keep telling me, keep going, keep going,

1052
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: keep going, There's more you can do, There's more you

1053
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: can tap into. And so like I channeled that and

1054
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, there is more you can do. There is

1055
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: like I can do this on a ninety basis, I

1056
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 3: can score thirty consistent, And I think that played into

1057
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: my confidence and just really just propelled me so I

1058
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: definitely credit him for that nod.

1059
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: The thing is so impressive about the way he go

1060
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: about it because.

1061
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: Like you said, you know, like all of us, you know,

1062
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: we play, and you know you gotta gotta find it

1063
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: every night and go out there.

1064
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: But like it ain't like he just drag his ass

1065
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: out there.

1066
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: And who Like the level and the intensity that he

1067
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: exerts every.

1068
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Single night is second to none.

1069
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: That's what makes it so impressive that he could keep

1070
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: doing it, Like the only he reminds me of how

1071
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: like like I used to look at KG like that, like, damn,

1072
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 4: my fucking crazy, like how do you be like that

1073
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: psyched out and that geeked up? Like cause you know

1074
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: that would happen for me every once in a while,

1075
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: And I can remember every time I have a day

1076
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 4: like that, a game like that where I really feel

1077
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: like I've maxed out like emotionally intensity and everything like

1078
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: they do, Like I was exhausted, and shit, I was

1079
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: like damn, I'm like so when I really I really

1080
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: used to look at KG like that, like how do

1081
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 4: you be locking in and being this intense the whole

1082
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: fucking like you gotta be drained?

1083
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: That thing?

1084
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: This is every night after night after night after night.

1085
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: So like when I watch Russ go out there and

1086
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: do that, that's that's the thing that I look at

1087
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 4: and I'm most impressed by. Like dog, if he playing,

1088
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: he only know one way to play, ain't no half fast.

1089
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: And if this boy about to go through a wall

1090
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: and practice too the same way I see, I could

1091
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: not fight him in practice job.

1092
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: That intensity looking at me snarling his city, you playing

1093
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: like nah, we're gonna fight and practice now he.

1094
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: Going hard Like that's that's like you said, that's his

1095
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: that's his model. Like he going hard at all times

1096
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: like it ain't no, ain't no half stepping there, half fassen,

1097
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: like we're getting to work and he getting something productive

1098
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: out of being iron on this floor, like he know

1099
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: it's crazy, Like you know how many minutes he played?

1100
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: He know at the six minute mark he coming out,

1101
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 3: he gonna play them six minutes hard as he and

1102
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 3: when he come out, he can be drenched, heavy breathing

1103
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: because he played. He played his tail off for his minutes.

1104
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: Whatever minutes he gets, he gonna play him hard. That's

1105
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: is my set. That's crazy.

1106
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: When you came up in the NBA, who was the

1107
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 2: guys in the NBA. He was looking at it was like, man,

1108
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: I want to be like them guys.

1109
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 3: So I always it's crazy if I had a big

1110
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: machine of creative player I can put together. I always

1111
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: loved Kobe and Michael Jordan footwork. That's one thing I

1112
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: always watched. They pound, pivots, spins, just the ability to

1113
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: be able to manipulate defenses with their feet, quick burst,

1114
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 3: side steps and all that. And then Ray Allen shooting

1115
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: ability like you said, here, jump shooter. My mom she

1116
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 3: made me sit down and like I'm sitting right here

1117
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: and watch Ray Allen clips all day, watching his form.

1118
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: One hand got hand off the ball, so that.

1119
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense while you jump so damn jump shots too.

1120
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: Hey. She wanted my cass to be like Ray.

1121
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: She's like Jesus southerns wor you gotta look like that's

1122
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: what you need to be.

1123
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: So I love that. And then growing up a I

1124
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: was my favorite player, so I was just I just

1125
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: always I was a fan way so I just loved

1126
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 3: everything he did is his heart of a champion. Then

1127
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: it's killed crossover. And then as I got a little older,

1128
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: I started watching a lot more d Wade like in

1129
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: his ability to be able to slid it through the

1130
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: defense like he wasn't always known to be a shooter.

1131
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: So he figured out ways to be able to get

1132
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: you know, be able to get his points off and

1133
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: be able to use his body post up, pump fakes,

1134
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: getting the lame your ros, dunking on your head like

1135
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: he had it all. So I tried to put all

1136
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: of that in this big old blender.

1137
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Steal something from everybody.

1138
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: You gotta steal something from everybody.

1139
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: D Wade wanted the colder slashes, this league that never

1140
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: seen boy, I ain't gonna lie to you.

1141
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: His ability to split the screen was great. I couldn't.

1142
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure it out. Like he's sliding

1143
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 3: through one hand, still dribbling with that hand, and his

1144
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: pull back bull speed pulled back.

1145
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: I've been saying, my boy dunking on folks, like getting

1146
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: to that real duncan on folk, which is your favorite

1147
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: duck on, because I've been saying you hollering everything, that's

1148
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 2: how you represent.

1149
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: It's funny. I dunked on Pete, I ain't gonna remember,

1150
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: but I dunked on Pee. Oh. I dunked on Paul

1151
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: mm hmm. But I would say, when I dunked on

1152
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: drumming last year. That's I swear to goodness.

1153
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 4: I didn't want to call it was in my mind.

1154
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna call your name. I'm sorry, but it

1155
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 4: was Yeah, proud NASA. You left some earth on that one.

1156
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: And my bounces. I got bounces. It come out every

1157
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: blue moon, and it was a blue moon that night.

1158
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 4: I was working that game. I wasn't working that game.

1159
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 4: I was working at Turning. I was like, well, I

1160
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 4: gotta do this replay tonight. Oh man, Yeah, that was

1161
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 4: a that was a Lord have mercy. Hey, this is

1162
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: what I gotta ask though, because you done got you know,

1163
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 4: you made some some healty, healty little deposits into the bank.

1164
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: So you know, we all come from pretty humble beginners

1165
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: and things like that. But what I like to know

1166
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 4: from everybody, and I don't want to hear about nothing

1167
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: that I know you took care of mom.

1168
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Dudes.

1169
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 4: Mom dudes got a house and she straight and all that.

1170
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: I want to know what brad Deal did for him?

1171
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 4: What did you do? I'm talking about something one of

1172
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: the most ignorant purchases, not like something that just like that.

1173
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: This was Nah, I'm talking about something that was like

1174
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: I'm stunning like my daddy, like this when you thought

1175
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 4: you was doing to the rap video set with this?

1176
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: What you what you did? Mm? I bought it.

1177
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Ferrari him and look him and him and you want Ferrari.

1178
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: Real horses? Which one you got? I bought a Forighty Spider.

1179
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he want people to see him when he rolling

1180
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: through the.

1181
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: Love that's my that's my only dab for our love courts.

1182
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: I'll be trying.

1183
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: It's not a downfall when you make enough money to

1184
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: have that as a hobby. You know when you make

1185
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 4: enough money to have a hobby and.

1186
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: That you can do that for sure. But yeah, I

1187
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: bought it. I bought it. I bought a house about

1188
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: a house and I bought it.

1189
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: Hey man, I don't know. That's mcghetti too. Mcgetdy had

1190
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: that right before we knew what the hell was going on.

1191
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: Y'all boys and on Raorris Boy Orange.

1192
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: Start bitch, cut, you gotta start one. You gotta bench

1193
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: squad in trouble here. You gotta cut one. Reality jesus

1194
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: ay I Chuck and Kobe.

1195
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 3: I knew he's about to say, Kobe right, trip tripping brother,

1196
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: You tripping. It's disrespectful. You gotta start, you gotta bitch,

1197
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: you gotta cut one. I already know the I already

1198
00:58:51,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: know the one. Mo Yeah start, Kobe, damn. And I

1199
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: know who know who I was. I was radomly looking

1200
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: for somebody else to add. I couldn't. You could have

1201
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: been some other ways you could have went, Man, come on,

1202
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna make me do this.

1203
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: And I you' gotta you'll gotta cut. And he's just

1204
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: gonna go somewhere else and shine. You know it ain't

1205
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: gonna be cut. He's sending Ray Island somewhere else.

1206
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: To somewhere else, to side and get buckets over there

1207
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 4: where you're going from Boston to Milwauke, I mean, from

1208
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 4: Milwaukee to Boston.

1209
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: What's going on? He ain't gonna be do it well, Kobe,

1210
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: Kobe gonna give us everything we need, So I would

1211
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: say I might need to shoot him. Man.

1212
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, tell you give me your mount Rushmore

1213
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: from the Loop Hoopers from the Loop.

1214
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: Hm, but we got four. Always said that's easy if

1215
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: it's fun me Jay, Larry and de Mouse. Okay, okay, okay,

1216
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: I like that phone now, I like that phone.

1217
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: They tell tell me this, though you have been doing

1218
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: your thing for X amount of years, how did it

1219
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: feel when they called you and said, yo.

1220
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: Brand, Jordan, won't you come on too?

1221
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Like what that call felt like? Because I know me

1222
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: and my dog here we was under this thing.

1223
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: You know, we were early.

1224
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: We was kind of some of the original games eventinal

1225
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: gang members in this.

1226
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 4: But like I'm telling you, I everybody know how that

1227
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: call feel And then you go from the from the

1228
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: news that you're about to be down to when you

1229
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 4: actually giving them first shipments?

1230
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: What was it like? Right now? You feel me?

1231
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: I know you got my babies, the old lady got shoes,

1232
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: whifey got shoes, but Bama got shoes.

1233
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about you and me and West kids.

1234
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: So you already know what that man means that me

1235
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: and hit.

1236
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 4: The Jordan brand hit different in Chicago and at Midwest

1237
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: than anywhere else in the country of my fic. So

1238
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 4: just just sharing with me and everybody else, like your

1239
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: feelings on when all of those things transpired to like

1240
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: now you you know what I'm saying. You fully in

1241
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 4: the brand. I seen you with the Travis Scott fit

1242
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: on swagging. I don't know you feel me. It's like,

1243
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 4: look how that feel?

1244
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 3: What that be? Like? It's unreal? Right. So I've been

1245
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: with Nike all my life, since I was in high school.

1246
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: My mama got a Nike tattoo on her leg. Yeah

1247
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 3: we look like. So this was the last year on

1248
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: my deal and Nike's like, well, jump, Man's very interesting

1249
01:01:48,120 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: right now. I say, Mike don't like nobody like Mike

1250
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: ain't just fond of anybody. So yeah, I'm like, okay,

1251
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 3: Well if he's signing off on it, then it's gotta

1252
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: be something special. So man, from the presentation to you know,

1253
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: interacting with him and then meeting meeting the guys like,

1254
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: it's unreal. Dog like, I got by too many boy

1255
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: like wife, he cutsed me off because it's too many

1256
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: boxes and.

1257
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 4: They listen, well we all got the same lifestyle. Brother,

1258
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: Look you don't want to see none of this stuff.

1259
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: Come we be smiling. She'd be a little side with

1260
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: where that's gonna go.

1261
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: You ain't got no room for pressure, no start pressure

1262
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: coming through. So I love it man, like they treat

1263
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: you like family. It's been all love like this my

1264
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: first year. So yeah, you gotta get on that. Like

1265
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: I said, you came in with COVID.

1266
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: Going once COVID over, You're gonna really see what the

1267
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: family be like. We have a family union every summer.

1268
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 4: Where it been, Man, we'd have been in Cabo, Mexico, Bahamas.

1269
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: They went to Paris to one year.

1270
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1271
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: Listen, and I'm talking about when I say it be

1272
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: like that, he liked that bro it be and it

1273
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 4: be all just all Jordan Brand from the baseball to

1274
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: the football guys like everybody there.

1275
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, we say, once you with Jordan's, you like

1276
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: a special union. You like the elite group league.

1277
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, your elite group when you were with Jordan's.

1278
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: That's how we felt when we got signed. We felt

1279
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 4: like we was like the elite squadron of the Navy

1280
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 4: Seals or something. We thought we was a special force,

1281
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: a special technical force. We come out, there's only eight

1282
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: of us.

1283
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 3: Boy here, it ain't that many of us. Man, ain't many?

1284
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: How is it coaching your AAU team, man, coaching the

1285
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: youth and coaching the guys that's coming on up. And

1286
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: I've seen on the cliffs that we got real. You

1287
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: just spoke to him and you just told them just

1288
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: the real. That's you know, a lot of people won't

1289
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: tell them. You know, they baby in a lot of

1290
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: cats these days and already putting them in the.

1291
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Former like they in the league. But you you're keeping

1292
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: the real one, especially coming from world. We let me

1293
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: salute you. How is it to coch? So, like when

1294
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, I founder Rich Gray. When passed away,

1295
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: I actually took over the team in twenty seventeen, so

1296
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: I renamed it Brad bail Eliitue And like I said earlier,

1297
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: like I feel like that's what helped propel my career,

1298
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: like AAU basketball. And so when I grew up, like

1299
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: I didn't have like granted we didn't have big like

1300
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: NBA guys around us or big college guys around us.

1301
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: We didn't have that.

1302
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: And so.

1303
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 3: I was like, well, you know what, I'm gonna do that,

1304
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: Like our kids need that, Like there's so much teaching

1305
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 3: them the game the right way. Because once I got

1306
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 3: to college and then came back, I'm like, what are

1307
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: y'all being taught? Like what are we learning? Like what

1308
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 3: are we teaching them? And right, So then when I

1309
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 3: got to the league, I'm like, you learn so much

1310
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: and you learn how the game is played, and it's

1311
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: like this is the highest level. This is how the

1312
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: game is gonna be played, right, And then you see

1313
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: how it's compared to college. College is so robotic, so

1314
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: system are in it, Like the league is free flowing,

1315
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: individualized learning how to play and pick and roll, it's

1316
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: read right, It's it's straight reactionary. So I'm like, that's

1317
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: how the game need to be played. And I'm like,

1318
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: let me share that with them, right, And so I

1319
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: embraced coaching them, like and in a way, is me

1320
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what it is that I want

1321
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: to do when I'm done hooping, right, I'm just trying

1322
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: to figure out, Okay, do I want to coach? Do

1323
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: I want to be involved in sports whatever the kids

1324
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: may be. Do I want to coach my sons one day?

1325
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: But the ultimate thing for me is helping these kids

1326
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 3: get the college. Okay, free education, education and for everybody

1327
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: to have an opportunity, right. And so if I can

1328
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: be that that guy that the kids listen to, because

1329
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: they'll listen to us, right, We'll come in there and

1330
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 3: tell them the same exact thing that they coaches have

1331
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: been telling them all but we'll come in there and

1332
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: tell them the same thing and boom, they'll go do it.

1333
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: And so for me, it was just you know how

1334
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: it's a time management thing obviously, you know, because they play,

1335
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: they sees and ramps up right at the end of

1336
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: our season and if you're in the playoffs, you miss

1337
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 3: a lot of their games. And so for me, it's

1338
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out time management being around them.

1339
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 3: I stay engaged with them. They got my contact info,

1340
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: social media or whatever the case may be. Like, I

1341
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: just try to be a big brother mentor on top

1342
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: of being a coach and pushing them too, right relationship

1343
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 3: with college coaches, pushing the college coaches, pushing their relationships

1344
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: they're recruiting wise, helping them, helping their parents. I really

1345
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: try to dive into that and try to be a

1346
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: big brother mentor. And I try to encourage all the

1347
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 3: guys that came from from the crib to do the

1348
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: same thing because it's so much talent that needs the guidance,

1349
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: right not everybody know and football wise, we got the

1350
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: football players coming out the lou too.

1351
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: I gotta definitely, you know, salute you on that bro,

1352
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 4: especially you know you're a superstar in the NBA right now.

1353
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm saying that currently playing all

1354
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: start and all of that.

1355
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 4: So for you to be taking time out of your

1356
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: personal life and really, cause, like I say, it's you know,

1357
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 4: it's nothing for us to like have an AAU team

1358
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 4: or to sponsor something, or to throw money at something

1359
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: or to just you know, do for something.

1360
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's bad, but I'm saying, like.

1361
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 4: The fact that you actually show up and you put

1362
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 4: your time in and you are there to speak to them,

1363
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: and you are there to do all of those things

1364
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 4: you just named like that that goes beyond I mean,

1365
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 4: we all know the impact, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1366
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: just think if any of us could have had a

1367
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 4: Bradley bial type stature NBA figure coaching us and talking

1368
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: to us, and we could text him and ask him

1369
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 4: questions and do things like that and be there for him,

1370
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: Like that bigger than the money you put up for

1371
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 4: him and everything, like being able to be there physically

1372
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 4: and showing them kids that you give of them, you

1373
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like if they don't understand it,

1374
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 4: like that is bigger than anything, like really being there.

1375
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: To me, that's bigger than money in any of that.

1376
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I emphasized that I let the ask no,

1377
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: I could be anywhere in the world besides you should

1378
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 3: because that's truth. Watching y'all stink this joint up. But

1379
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 3: I definitely I take pride in it because they do

1380
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: understand that. You know, they understand that I can't do anything.

1381
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: I won't I don't have to be here. I could

1382
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 3: be doing anything. I could be living my life the

1383
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: life that they wish they could be living right that

1384
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: they want to live. And so for me, it's getting

1385
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: them to understand that it's it's steps, it's steps, and

1386
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: you can't skip no steps. Because a lot of these

1387
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: kids think they pros in high school and they not

1388
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: them back in you got to humble them and you

1389
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: got to really build them up and to show them

1390
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 3: this is how to be a proper pro. This is

1391
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: how you be a pro. All this you telling yourself,

1392
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: you're saying you want you not.

1393
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 4: I feel like you was bred for this, bro Like

1394
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 4: you had you was the middle child of four brothers,

1395
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: Like what the hell was that? Like how much competition

1396
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 4: and just like learning from one another and being you

1397
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 4: got you got two above you to learn from, two

1398
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 4: below you to pour into. So you was getting it,

1399
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: Like how was that for you today? I feel like

1400
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 4: that kind of shape the impact that everything, Like how

1401
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 4: you are you.

1402
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: A hundred percent? Right? Like my family is my support system,

1403
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 3: that's my foundation. Like we like this, like when when

1404
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: you ask me who my friends are, I'm gonna say

1405
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: my four brothers and one of my best friends from

1406
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: the crew.

1407
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: You got that.

1408
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 3: I try to tell my kids that right now, you

1409
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 3: got to me brothers and sisters to be friends. My

1410
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: mom told us. So that was us and me being

1411
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: the middle child, like you said, I got to see

1412
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 3: my two older brothers go through everything, you know, I

1413
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: got to see them what their success looked like, what

1414
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 3: their failures look like, what to do, what not to do?

1415
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 3: And I'm a quiet, reserved guy, and I observe everything,

1416
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: and I'm like a sponge like that's how I am,

1417
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm soaking up information. I'm watching how people watch.

1418
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: I see how you act, I see what you do

1419
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: like I read. And then I had two younger brothers

1420
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: that they're twins, and so they did everything together. And

1421
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 3: so for me, it was competition with the older brothers.

1422
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: And then I got competition with my younger brothers, and

1423
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: so it was never ending for me, and I went

1424
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: from the role of learning how to do it, how

1425
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: not to do it, into the role of being a

1426
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: big brother trying to show my younger brothers of how

1427
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: to do it the proper way. So it definitely helped

1428
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 3: shape who I am and how I am and how

1429
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: to operate and why I do what I do, like

1430
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 3: because being in that middle child, you see and you

1431
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: observe and you want to help, and it like forces you.

1432
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: Like that's been my life, like I've been to I

1433
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 3: made it to the league. Now I don't want to

1434
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: give back like that's just it's just been a transitional mine.

1435
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 3: That's just been That's why you're gonna keep on blessing you, bro.

1436
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: That's how you supposed to do it.

1437
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: Supposed to give back and move in the right angle

1438
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 2: and just you know, try to spread love like anytime

1439
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to give advice anytime to the kids.

1440
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: And you know, just do other things to just help out.

1441
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, like how you give back and everything,

1442
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 4: talk to me about how much the DC and that

1443
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: community means to you, because you're somebody who's been you know,

1444
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: incredibly loyal to the Wizards and the organization in that community,

1445
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 4: and you've been outspoken about how you wanted to be there,

1446
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 4: and you remain there, you know, throughout whatever has been

1447
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 4: going on, and you always like you know, throughout everything

1448
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 4: that's been going on, you've spoken out on social justice things.

1449
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: You've been in the community, holding events, giving back. Talk

1450
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: to me about you know, how how you feel about

1451
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: you know, your ties to the community there in DC

1452
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 4: and the things that you do.

1453
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, that commitment to d C that you have

1454
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: in that relationship. Yeah, so d C is d C

1455
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 3: is my second home. You know, this is like I said,

1456
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: this is all I know. They embracements since they won,

1457
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: and they continue to do so too, like even up

1458
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 3: to this point. And it's it's everything to love man

1459
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: like they love you. It's a true sport town, you

1460
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So you know, they root for you,

1461
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: and you know, they get down and they get mad

1462
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 3: just as much as you do. You know, and you

1463
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: love that, you know what I'm saying. So there's been

1464
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: none beloved. And then to embrace the city that we

1465
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 3: in in the community, we in like are practice facility

1466
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 3: is literally in the hood, right and so we I'm

1467
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: seeing our people every day right, we were ack there.

1468
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to the gas station or the

1469
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: store or whatever, and I'm people look at me like

1470
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm crazy, Like what you're doing over here? But I

1471
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 3: grew up in this too, like be over here, be

1472
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 3: practiced right here, like just trying to create that bond

1473
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: and like I'm still abrupt, like I'm still I'm still

1474
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: real people in this situation. I still you know what

1475
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I understand the struggling, and that's what I

1476
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 3: try to get back as much as I can. Like

1477
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 3: I mentor a high school there, Like it's similar to Shamana, right,

1478
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 3: so it's I went to all white school. This is

1479
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 3: an all black school, but it's a private boys' school

1480
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 3: just like I went to. But they're publicly funded. They

1481
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: don't have to pay a dime to go to school.

1482
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: I didn't have that option, right. My schools eighteen grade

1483
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: in a year, and I had to be smart to

1484
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: get academic scholarship to be able to pay for my school.

1485
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 3: So now I'm just trying to mentor these kids and

1486
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: just tell them, like y'all have a prime opportunity with

1487
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 3: an academic advantage that you don't have to pay for

1488
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: you're in a college prep school, getting this advanced education

1489
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 3: that the rest of these public schools in DC don't get, right,

1490
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: So taking advantage of opportunities, providing scholarships for kids, like

1491
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: you said, having food drives, whatever the case may be.

1492
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 3: Like I embraced the city like because they embraced me.

1493
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: So there's been nothing to love and continue to do.

1494
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: So they always welcomed me with open arms no matter what.

1495
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: So they always got my.

1496
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: Little How was it for you in the tcosa cloud

1497
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: to get out there with the people and you know,

1498
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 2: march and do all that with the people of DC.

1499
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: Just show the support with social justice, using your platform,

1500
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: your likeness to show that you have support.

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01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 3: Well, Natasha, and it was crazy. It was more or

1502
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 3: less her idea, right. So she does a lot of

1503
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 3: work back in Philly and her hometown with everything that

1504
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 3: was going on up there and with marches, and like

1505
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: she was in the mix, right, And so she's like, well,

1506
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: we're in DC, right, Like we're in the most powerful city.

1507
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: In the world.

1508
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: We right here in they backyard, Like we got to

1509
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: do something and we're like okay. She's like, let's march,

1510
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 3: and I'm like okay, I'm with it. I'm all for

1511
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: I've never done it before, but this is a great

1512
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 3: opportunity to be able to get out there and speak

1513
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 3: in front of the people, let them know that we

1514
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: are citizens. We hoop, but we still are citizens. We

1515
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: play taxes just like y'all. You know what I'm saying.

1516
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: We wake up, We're still human beings. I go on

1517
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 3: my side. I'm a citizen just like y'all. So it

1518
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 3: was dope man to be able to get out there

1519
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: and stand for something and represent something. For me, it

1520
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: was understanding, like we were pushing voting rights, you know,

1521
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 3: especially with all the police brutality and everything that had

1522
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: just happened. Like it made me understand what my grandparents

1523
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: had went through, you know. It made me understand, you know,

1524
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 3: my great grand and how they didn't have the right

1525
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: to vote. It forced me to want to vote this year,

1526
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, and just little stuff like that. With their

1527
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: marching itself was huge for us because I feel like

1528
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 3: it brought our organization together and it opened up a

1529
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: lot of people eyes, you know, who didn't look like us,

1530
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: like white people, right, So it opened up a lot

1531
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: of eyes to uncomfortable conversations to you know, people kind

1532
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: of being ignorant to you know, their racism, and it

1533
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: created some uncomfortable joints, but they were necessary, you know,

1534
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: and within the organization, outside of the organization like it

1535
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: really it really hit home for a lot of people.

1536
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, we got participation out of everybody in our organizations.

1537
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: So that was that's both volumes. I think more NBA

1538
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: guys should should do this. But how was it to

1539
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,839
Speaker 3: be at the w NBA Championships and supporting the Mystics

1540
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: when they won the championship. I seen a couple of

1541
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: you guys there and supported them, and you know, they

1542
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: want a championship. How was that to see them the

1543
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: women do that and pull that off? For DC, well,

1544
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: it was dope. And we're jealous because we ain't got one,

1545
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm living vicariously for

1546
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: them in that moment. But it was it was dope, man,

1547
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: because they got their own arena. You know, they got

1548
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 3: their own set up. Now they're not in our shadows.

1549
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: We share practice facility, so let they have their own identity.

1550
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 3: And that whole the year before they had just lost

1551
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: in the finals and they came back hungry and you

1552
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 3: can see it, you know, throughout the whole year, and

1553
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 3: then to be able to sit there and see them

1554
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,919
Speaker 3: win on DC floor was crazy, Like it was motivation

1555
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: for us, Like Dela don just finished off with fifty

1556
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 3: forty ninety, Like you don't see that, know it's historical,

1557
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: so like that was. That was fire man Whinnesstead first hand.

1558
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 3: Like to see them celebrating get that trophy, man, like

1559
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: that was. It was motivational. You know what I'm saying

1560
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 3: that it was dope.

1561
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: For you to be out them.

1562
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: I think it's important, you know, for all of the

1563
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 4: NBA guys like I saw, you know, Chris Paul and everybody.

1564
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 4: Everybody's supporting, wearing the sweaters, buying the jerseys and all

1565
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: that stuff. I think it's it's imperative, you know, for

1566
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 4: for guys like yourself and and everybody like us to

1567
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 4: support them publicly and really promote and help them, you know,

1568
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 4: grow that game and make it what it's supposed to

1569
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 4: be for them.

1570
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: Man, these women that game so much.

1571
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 4: Me and D people be thinking we lying Me and

1572
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 4: D males being women basketball fans. We're not like part

1573
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: of this new movement where everybody like we've been doing

1574
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 4: this like since we were in high school.

1575
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: I used to practice, I used to practice with the

1576
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: team like this. We're not new to this at all,

1577
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 3: Like I've always had a relationship with our team, like

1578
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: like I feel like it's though, like we share the

1579
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 3: same facility. We crossing paths like whatever, the weight room,

1580
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 3: training room, like it's it's dope. I definitely encourage all.

1581
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: I feel like every team owner need to have a

1582
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: w NBA team, But they go to the hall. They

1583
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: the same hall of fame. Ain't no different hall of fame.

1584
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 3: They going the same hall of fame. Put the money

1585
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: in and.

1586
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 4: They definitely need some money, like to see like we

1587
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 4: were just talking about earlier about the girls that got cut,

1588
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 4: like how like you know then it's like all the

1589
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: comments like you need more teams, Like you know what

1590
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like this's a whole team that got released

1591
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 4: on yeah, like on forty four. That's right, all right, man,

1592
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: that's been a rap man. This was too dope.

1593
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1594
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up on us and chopping it

1595
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: up with a B bill.

1596
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: Man. This was love, just love. It was a pleasure, man.

1597
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: I have fun.

1598
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 3: Appreciate your boys, Yes, sir, all.

1599
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,759
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