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Speaker 1: With today's episode of Ticket to the Draft podcast, the

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Speaker 1: vibes are high. We got our top five vibe guys.

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Speaker 1: We got twitchy and small, too big and strong and

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Speaker 1: everything in between it and we've got top five linebackers.

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Speaker 1: And in that conversation we talked about the evolution of

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Speaker 1: defense man. It's a great conversation. It all starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome on into the Ticket of the Draft podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Logan Paulson here with just to Guy. Jason and Jason

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Speaker 1: were presented by Seakeeek this summer. Seekkeek has your ticket

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Speaker 1: Sea Geek the official primary taking partner of the Washington

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Speaker 1: of Northwest Stadium, not even Washington Commanders anymore. That kind

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Speaker 1: of pumpedaged me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they're the official primary taking partner.

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Speaker 1: At both I think, but Northwest Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Northwest Stadium because there are going to be some big

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Speaker 2: acts coming in Northwest.

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Speaker 1: Really. Oh yeah, I'm not into the Drake. I've never

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Speaker 1: been to a concert.

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Speaker 2: He's coming back for two nights.

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Speaker 1: The Queen Huh. Yeah, that's cool. All right, that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: And we have some housekeeping and you know the context

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Speaker 1: of this housekeeping better than I do. So housekeeping. Fred

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Speaker 1: and I have a bet right and last year we

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Speaker 1: Guaranteed Ballers. I don't know if you guys will listen

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Speaker 1: to the show last year, but you might remember it.

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Speaker 1: And basically we picked like five guys, six guys something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was basically a draft. You did a mini

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Speaker 2: think are just going to ball out. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: like scored it after the fact. I talked to you

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Speaker 1: So no complaining that I picked.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, not good for you to not remember, because

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Speaker 2: you know Frek can get away with some. So you know,

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Speaker 2: Fred's already went back and re listened to that.

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Speaker 1: Probably get ready so you told me not to, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do it, but okay, So basically what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen is that we said, whoever doesn't pick the

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Speaker 2: most guaranteed ballers, right, we'll have to get down on

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Speaker 2: one knee in front of the other. So either Fred

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Speaker 2: the true draft guru. And I personally.

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Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing, which I don't really want to do if

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Speaker 2: Wants to do that, and much less with Fred.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking back on it, and I think I

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Speaker 1: my percentages of winning this thing, I think I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: Do you think about some of the if you remember

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Speaker 2: Fred's strategy, Dude, he went swing swinging from razy, yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you can go back and listen to that episode.

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Speaker 2: Anyone can. It's uh you can find on our Command

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna do that again too, guarantee botherers with

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Speaker 2: So anyway, on Fred's birthday, which is April seventeenth, that

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Speaker 2: be our last basically ranking before we start really getting

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Speaker 2: He's like friends Fred, Like the two of these guys

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So that's our housekeeping today. We are

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Speaker 1: I'm still giving for this. I'm excited for vibes, and

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Speaker 2: It's the top five vibes guys in this draft, so

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Speaker 1: So that's all those those are Like that's really this

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Speaker 1: For the vibes. Man, that's why I do it, you

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're at the Senior Bowl and the

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Speaker 2: So logan, let's get into it. Our top five linebackers.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give mine. I'm just going to pop

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Speaker 1: So he has this ability to run and be in space,

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Speaker 1: I look, honestly, I look at that position almost more

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Speaker 1: at everything. I'm trying to be comprehensive, but really, the

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Speaker 2: Well, you're number five, yes, was it converted safety?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that actually, but it makes.

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Speaker 1: So Jeffrey Bossa from Oregon. He's six', too he's two

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Speaker 1: i think he plays lightning. FAST i think he's got

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Speaker 1: good instincts to the. Run like there's a REVERSE i

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Speaker 1: forget AGAINST i don't remember the, school but it's like

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Speaker 1: this heavy action to the defensive. Right he kind of

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Speaker 1: the defensive. Left SO i thought that was really. Impressive

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Speaker 1: and these yeat a bunch of plays like that where

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Speaker 1: he's kind of find through. Traffic and THEN i think

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Speaker 1: the thing that really kind of sold me on, him quite,

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Speaker 1: honestly was at The Senior. Bowl he they do like

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Speaker 1: a ton of one on one man coverage, stuff AND

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Speaker 1: i FIND i thought he was a guy that usually

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Speaker 1: in those one on one man, settings linebackers just get absolutely,

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Speaker 2: Tough it's right in the middle of the, field the

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Speaker 2: running back can go any direction and you're on an.

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Speaker 2: Island we're not a Coverage you're not a you're not a, corner, Right,

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Speaker 2: like that's not what You're, yeah it's, tough.

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Speaker 1: And so LIKE i actually felt Like Jeffrey bossa did

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Speaker 1: linebackers just absolutely torched down in and down because, again

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Speaker 1: like you, said it's it's. Outside you have you have

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Speaker 1: you get these like super twitched up, backs and it's

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Speaker 1: just LIKE i can go inside outside vertical and you

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Speaker 1: have to defend all these. Cuts there's no pass protection

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Speaker 1: responsibilities like good, luck and there's no offensive line to

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Speaker 1: kind of muddy up the. Release it's one of the

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Speaker 1: a great job with. That SO i saw enough from

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Speaker 1: The Senior bowl THAT i thought this guy has some

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Speaker 1: of those that kind of good mix of. Traits, again

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Speaker 1: he wasn't the athlete THAT i thought he would. Be

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Speaker 1: And i'm really just like splitting.

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Speaker 2: HERE i, mean like with the combine, measurements.

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Speaker 1: With that combine measurements more and on, film BECAUSE i

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Speaker 1: think on, FILM i think you would agree with. THIS

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Speaker 1: i think he looks. Good he runs, well.

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Speaker 2: Fast fluid and. Dynamics that's WHAT i.

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Speaker 1: Put, Yeah and SO i think the thing that just

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Speaker 1: maybe not top, shelf BUT i think he's. INSTINCTIVE i

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Speaker 1: in the run game, again like, serviceable and so he

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Speaker 1: feels like maybe a guy that is a rotational guy

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Speaker 1: his first year and then develops INTO i thought about

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Speaker 1: him in the context of The, commanders like maybe you're

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Speaker 1: backing Up Bobby wagner for a little bit Or jordan,

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Speaker 1: McGee you know WHAT i. Mean you kind of got

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Speaker 1: enough to give you the whole. Show is kind of

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Speaker 1: HOW i didn't think he was ready to start right,

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Speaker 1: now BUT i thought he was pretty.

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Speaker 2: Close, yeah SO i have him pretty high on my,

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Speaker 2: list and that number. THREE i really liked him a.

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Speaker 2: Lot and speaking Of commanders, linebacker LIKE i Got Frankie

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Speaker 2: louvu vibes from him by his. Mentality not, Necessarily i'm

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Speaker 2: not comping them as like they're going to be the same,

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Speaker 2: player But i'm saying like that mentality of like he's,

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Speaker 2: aggressive he's a. Dog he like when he, blitzes he

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Speaker 2: somehow gets a little skinny to like get, Through like

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Speaker 2: he's there's just like this motor. Crazy it's like a

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Speaker 2: crazy motor about, Him like he's you pull the string

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Speaker 2: and he just goes, hard like and that's The Frankie

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Speaker 2: louvu kind of. Cop there is comp there is Like

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Speaker 2: luvu is aggressive when he's asked to go, right but

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Speaker 2: like and that's kind of WHAT i saw.

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Speaker 1: My Agree AND i think the other thing about him

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Speaker 1: too is there's a couple of guys on this list

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Speaker 1: their emotional intensity, also AND i felt like he was

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Speaker 1: one of those. Guys at The Senior. Bowl he's the

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Speaker 1: first the, drill he's calling the, huddle he's making the.

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Speaker 1: Break you see him calling the defense At, oregon, right

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Speaker 1: he gets up after a. Tackle he's like the emotional

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Speaker 1: spark plug for the. Group everyone's kind dapping him on the,

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Speaker 1: helmet AND i feel The Frankie luvu comp from. IT

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Speaker 1: i don't think they play the.

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Speaker 2: Same, Yeah i'm not saying they play the. Same it's the.

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Speaker 1: Emotion it's the emotion of it and the, leadership WHICH

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Speaker 1: i really like the. Player and so you haven't three

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Speaker 1: and to, me you're splitting hairs a little, bit you,

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Speaker 1: know five to. Three BUT i do think he's a

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Speaker 1: really good football, player AND i you, KNOW i don't

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Speaker 1: think the linebacker class is very deep outside of the

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Speaker 1: first five maybe seven. Guys BUT i think he's A

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Speaker 1: i think he's gonna make somebody happy kind of in

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Speaker 1: that late, third late late, second maybe early third kind of,

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Speaker 2: Thing, okay your four and THREE i want to clump

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Speaker 2: together because they're both from your alma, MATER u Se.

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Speaker 2: La they're not one a lot of people's national media

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Speaker 2: consensus in their. Tops so why did you put BOTH

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Speaker 2: ucla guys in? Here and why are they in the top?

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Speaker 2: Five and, then, uh so are you biased?

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Speaker 1: HERE i don't think so, Biased SO i think. So

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Speaker 1: SO i, WENT i went, honestly like when you look

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Speaker 1: jeremiah when you look at like Draft, nick which is

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Speaker 1: like the thing that aggregates all the mock, Drafts Carson

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Speaker 1: sweessinger is like kind of pretty much the second. Linebacker

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Speaker 1: it depends on how you characterize one of these other. Guys,

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Speaker 1: second WHAT i would characterize is true off ball. Linebacker

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Speaker 1: SO i, went, OKAY i. Gotcha SO i went to you,

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Speaker 1: KNOW ucla to watch, him AND i think he pretty

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Speaker 1: much fit the, bill like he think he's got a

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Speaker 1: good feel as a. BLITZER i think he's he's excellent in.

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Speaker 1: Coverage he's got really fluid. Hips he's a big. Guy

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Speaker 1: he's he's just under six, two like six one and five,

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Speaker 1: eighths so six to two and he's two hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty two. Pounds so we really looks the. Part and,

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Speaker 1: again the movement skills are. Tremendous his ability to tackle

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Speaker 1: in space was very. SOLID i think the one thing

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Speaker 1: about him that he the reason he's four as opposed

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Speaker 1: to three or two is that he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: take on. Blocks they have this really huge nose guard,

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Speaker 1: there two guys on the. INTERIOR i think his name's

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Speaker 1: To tofu or something like. That AND i put him

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Speaker 1: in the, notes AND i thought that, guy that nose

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Speaker 1: guard did a great job of just eating, doubles sinking

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Speaker 1: to a, hip and letting him kind of run wherever

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Speaker 1: he needed to. Run and the thing that really bothered

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Speaker 1: me about him was, like, yes you see a tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Athlete you see good, physicality see a good. Blitz you

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Speaker 1: see he is AN nfl athlete at, linebacker, right he's

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Speaker 1: much more akin to, athletically you, know The Fred warners

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Speaker 1: or The Zach bonds compared To Jeffrey. Bassa like that's

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Speaker 1: what you see when you're on, Film like there's a

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Speaker 1: couple where he's in THE a. Gap he's lined up

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Speaker 1: in THE a gap and he's got a drop To tampa,

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Speaker 1: two so basically becomes the third safety In tampa two.

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Speaker 1: Coverage and his hips to get out there and relate

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Speaker 1: C i just was, like he's gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: that at the next. Level the thing, is he doesn't

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Speaker 1: take on blocks very very, Well like he gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Lost like he's a guy that wants to

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Speaker 1: line up at six yards and just run to the.

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Speaker 1: fast BUT i don't know if you're going to have

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Speaker 1: the same kind of coverage up. Front you have to

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Speaker 1: take on, blocks right like when you watch The commanders for,

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Speaker 1: example Like Bobby wagner takes on, Blocks Frankie louvio takes on,

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Speaker 1: blocks Like Jeremy chin when he was in the box last.

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Speaker 1: Year you have to take on, blocks and he just

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Speaker 1: hasn't cultivated that skill. Set at a high. Level so,

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Speaker 1: again he is AN nfl athlete at the linebacker. Spot

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Speaker 1: BUT i, think BUT i think that the taking on

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Speaker 1: blocks thing makes me a little bit nervous Because i've

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Speaker 1: seen this model of. Guy it's almost like this is

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Speaker 1: this is not a fair, competent but like it reminds

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Speaker 1: me a little bit Like Cole, holkum like very, fast good,

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Speaker 1: tackler but really struggle taking on blocks and holding the

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Speaker 1: point versus offensive. LINEMAN i worry that's a. Result it

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Speaker 1: also could go the other, way and it's something that

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Speaker 1: he's got a really natural feel. For and all of a,

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Speaker 1: sudden you've, got you, know your top ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: linebacker in THE nfl with a second round.

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Speaker 2: Pick is this a because you haven't seen it yet

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Speaker 2: because of what you said the defensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: There so when you watch THE lsu, game he gets

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Speaker 1: caught up with offensive lineman and it's not. Great it's

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Speaker 1: like kind of like you watch some of these other

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Speaker 1: guys on this, list Even Jeffrey, boss and it's like

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Speaker 1: there's a nice, snap we hold the. Point he's he's

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Speaker 1: always trying to skate the. Block he's always trying to

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Speaker 1: duct the. Block if that makes. Sense so if the tackles,

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Speaker 1: high like if it's runaway and the tackles, High i'm

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Speaker 1: an undercut, it. Right sometimes you can't do that in the, league.

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Speaker 1: Right you got to hit that block up, right it's

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Speaker 1: a down block on. POWER i got to fit that

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Speaker 1: up and rip underneath and kind of compress the window

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Speaker 1: at THE nfl, level and he just he wants to

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Speaker 1: skate and move around. Everything and that was a big

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Speaker 1: criticism Of Peyton wilson for, example last, year is that

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to take on. BLOCKS i feel a

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Speaker 1: lot of that to his. Game Peyton wilson figured it

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Speaker 1: out and he's playing, fine or they put him at

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Speaker 1: will linebacker doesn't do as. MUCH i think that's kind

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Speaker 1: of a situation there you're looking at With Carson's.

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Speaker 2: Westerner all, right so your other guy FROM.

431
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: Ucla SO i went To ucla to Watch Carson, sweessenger

432
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: like that's WHY i was. There, Yeah and then there's

433
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 1: this guy number twenty who just kept popping and was

434
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: like just this dextrous fluid. Athletes So i'm, like, well, well

435
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: let's go look at his protein, numbers, right and what

436
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 1: he did at the. Combine so he had the highest

437
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 1: the second highest vertical jump at the. Combine he ran

438
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 1: a four to four six at the, combine he ran

439
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 1: a sub seven three Cone and the more you look

440
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 1: at three cone data in terms of like athletic correlation

441
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 1: of the, film it's like almost one to. One and

442
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 1: like really hardcore draft analysts they'll put that in their

443
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 1: algorithm in a way THAT i haven't done because nobody

444
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: runs it at the, Combine like we don't get to

445
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 1: see that. Data So i'm, like, man like that really

446
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 1: shows up on. Film he lines up as edge an edge,

447
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 1: Player he lines up as like a, safety like that

448
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of star safety. Spot he lines up as a

449
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: true middle. Linebacker and his film Versus indiana was, Tremendous

450
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: like his ability to run with the receiver one, play

451
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 1: then absolutely like line up in a two point and

452
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: rush the. Tackle there was a goal line stand they

453
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: had where he picked in the seagap and made attack for.

454
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: Loss then to for him to play linebacker and get

455
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: hands on, blocks you, know hands on blocks and shit

456
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,239
Speaker 1: and rip underneath. STUFF i was, like this is what

457
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: you want as AN nfl, linebacker like and he did

458
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: it better THAN, i you, know at least in the

459
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: three games THAT i watched Than carson Sweas. Ginger he

460
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 1: was more fluid Than Carson. SWASNGER i will say he

461
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: might be better fit to play Like Jeremy, chin like

462
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: box safety type guy where he's like kind of in

463
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: the slot on the line of scrimmage. Blitzing maybe not

464
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: a true linebacker because he's only two hundred and twenty,

465
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: pounds but, man like the movement, skills the hip, flexibility

466
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 1: the ability to kind of get under stuff and accelerate

467
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 1: to like was. Awesome he's not a thunderous tackler by

468
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: any stretch of the, imagination but like the. MOVEMENT i

469
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 1: was just, like, dude this Isn't and the movement coupled

470
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: with the ability to make plays off the, movement because

471
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: sometimes you see guys that move really well and it's not.

472
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: THERE i just felt like his floor was like his

473
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: movement floor was exactly what you want for the modern day,

474
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: linebacker and it had some nice splashes of physicality in

475
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 1: terms of taking on blocks and making plays at line of.

476
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: Scrimmage well, SAID i will confirm there is no bruin bias.

477
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: Here, yeah, dude he's a, ballplayer.

478
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 2: Man that's that's pretty good facts back some stuff.

479
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: Up and so it was funny, because, like you, know

480
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: there was a report That Adam peters was At UCLA's

481
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: prote AND i was, like, oh he's a Former, Bruin

482
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: like he's probably just going out to you, know keep those.

483
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: Connections but after watching their, defense there's a they've got

484
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: some ballers on the, Defense like you, know all the,

485
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: Day joe's out, there these, two these two guys are

486
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: out there the defensive. LINEMENT i just talked abouts out,

487
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 1: there like there's some there's four or five draftable guys

488
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: That i'm aware, of AND i haven't looked at their secondary,

489
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: yet and SO i, think, like Obviously i'm not saying

490
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: A bruin's going to be coming, here but there's five

491
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: draftable guys in that group at the pro day on

492
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the. Football and, dude and, AGAIN

493
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: i was totally surprised By, Maderno LIKE i totally, Surprised

494
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: like it was one of those things where you're watching.

495
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: Film you're, Like i'm trying to watch forty, nine trying

496
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: to watch and twenty just kept splashing Some, michael let's

497
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: go watch twenty and all of that. Stuff and again

498
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: he might be more of a, safety but, man he.

499
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: Was he's a ball, player, man, ballplayer fun to.

500
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 2: Watch speaking of a guy that's fun to, WATCH i

501
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: want to talk about a guy that's not on your.

502
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: LIST i want to talk About.

503
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: Pooh SO i, KNOW i was trying to look him

504
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: up AND i was Typing Chris paul and like nothing came.

505
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: Up and THEN i went to the you know that

506
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: we have that the co pilot, thing AND i was

507
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: like looking for him and it's Says, pooh AND i

508
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: was like, that what is going on? Here?

509
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah So, Chris Chris, Pooh Paul pooh like the bear

510
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: From Ole. Miss this dude's a dog who has great.

511
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: Burst he is an. Athlete. Man he takes excellent. Angles

512
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: he's really good at coverage in, zone really good at.

513
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: It and when he, hits it's like with a nice. Thud.

514
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: OKAY i really loved watching. HIM i didn't see him

515
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: on your, list AND i was surprised of. It SO

516
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: i WANT i don't want you to like talk me,

517
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: off like. DOWN i don't want you to talk him,

518
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: down BUT i want you to tell, me like what

519
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: about what you're? Seeing like didn't get him on the.

520
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: List is he closed to your list because the couple

521
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: of things THAT i see that maybe our. Negatives he

522
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: looks smaller Now he's, like he's not. Really he's six'

523
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: one two, thirty five like is a. Little smaller but

524
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 2: like we're talking about in the new way defenses, are

525
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: played he can be right that kind of like. He

526
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: could it's that safety converted safety kind. Of build but

527
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: he does look small in film for. Whatever reason and

528
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: he does struggle with shedding blocks during the. Run, games

529
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: yeah those are the only, two negatives but because EVERYTHING else.

530
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: I love he is excellent at moving to a spot

531
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: in zone coverage while keeping his eyes ON a qb

532
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: and being instinctual enough to, Be, Like okay i'm gonna

533
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: break on.

534
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: This RIGHT so i DON'T think i think when people

535
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: see that he's not on, my list like he's like

536
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: a bad. FOOTBALL player i think when you watch, THIS

537
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: film i think you see a, guy that like, you

538
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: said has good Like running. HITTO instincts i think he's

539
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: good at he's okay at taking. On blocks, EXCUSE me

540
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: i think he's physical when he takes. ON blocks i

541
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: think his lack of length shows up more than i'd

542
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: like IT to i think if he's GOT to, i

543
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: think if he's got to live in, the box he

544
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: because he does get enveloped by offensive lineman and he

545
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: kind of does. The whole he does the whole, like,

546
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: helmet shoulder like full body into. The BLOCK and i

547
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: can tell you after having blocked guys, like that it's

548
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: nice because like they're not they make it easy, on,

549
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: You right they just they just run right. Into you fit,

550
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: your hands you run, your feet and it's. A stalemate

551
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: and AT the, nfl level like that's. Gonna be he's

552
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: got to learn how to play with his hands a little.

553
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: Bit BETTER and I think i don't disagree with what

554
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: you said about the. ZONE coverage i think there was

555
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: a stiffness in his back pedal and when he had

556
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: to open his hips to relate to like when he

557
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: had to relate to Receivers because, elvis defenses you're just

558
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: dropping to, a, Spot right we're just kind of going true. Like,

559
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: That right so when you Watch Like Carson Sweesseinger, maderno

560
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: bassa like they actually play, man coverage they relate. To

561
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: RECEIVERS and i felt like there's a guy on my

562
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: LIST that i have a lot and he's on your

563
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: list TOO that i have a lot of. Concern ABOUT

564
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: but i felt like he Just didn't he doesn't have

565
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: the hips to do it AT the, nfl level so

566
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the size to.

567
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: Do it at a high LEVEL. The, nfl, yeah right

568
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: he's going to BE an.

569
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Nfl, Player YEAH but i do think but so, TO

570
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: me I think i wrote down on my breakdown, of

571
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: him he feels like a special teams guy. Right now

572
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: and the Obviously, Like london fletcher came into the league

573
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: as a special, teams, guy right and he brought that

574
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: up as a, comp, Yesterday right like he came in

575
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: as a special, teams Guy but london ran a four

576
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: three two. Or, something well my it was going.

577
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: To be, he's like it's Just like, you're, like yeah a,

578
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Little SMALLER and i, was like So? Is, London right

579
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: like my point being with you IS like i was

580
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: just trying to Fight for POOH because i Really.

581
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: Like, Pooh, right, no, no, NO yeah, i know but like so,

582
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: to me it's like the the lack of length shows

583
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: up in the, run GAME and i think that's going

584
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: to hurt him if he has to play all, three

585
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: downs AND then i don't think he's good enough a

586
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: good enough athlete to do the coverage stuff that you

587
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: see like the top end.

588
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Guys do so that that WAS where i was, just like,

589
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: you know is he good? College, player yeah but how does?

590
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: That translate how does that project TO the?

591
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: Nfl level, all right my number five and your number

592
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: two are.

593
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: The, same yeah this one was hard for ME because

594
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: i really liked the movement skills of the Three guys

595
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: i've already Mentioned, the bosses The, sweah JER the. MADERI

596
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: note i really liked those guys quite. A bit and

597
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: then you get To Demit, demetrius night, the second and

598
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: He's From, south carolina, number seventeen and he is just a,

599
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: Maniac dude like just A big he's got, Long arms

600
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: he's got thirty three, Inch arms like he looks like

601
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: a defensive end playing. Middle linebacker like he's got this

602
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: great feel for like taking on blocks at the, linta

603
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: scrimmage throwing guys to, the ground. Ripping under he is

604
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe of the Guys that i've seen the most communicative,

605
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: On defense like he's calling, the defense he's making the

606
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: checks like he's a, former quarterback Went To georgia tech

607
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and then Transferred To south carolina to,

608
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: play LINEBACKER and i just. Loved him, and again the

609
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: thing that is differentiates him from the rest of. The

610
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: guys he's, this big hulking kind. Of guy he's almost

611
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty four to almost two hundred and.

612
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Forty pounds doesn't run in coverage, super WELL but i

613
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: think he runs well Enough that, I'M like i think

614
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: he could get better in. This area given, the length given,

615
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: the size given how he plays on versus, SECOND down

616
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: i think you could find a way to insulate him

617
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: in coverage and hopefully see him grow in coverage because

618
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: he seems like he's. Very STUDIOUS but i remember watching

619
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: him At The senior bowl in a really hard time

620
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: with the one, on ones like in straight manned, man

621
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: coverage when you can't when he can't get hands, ON

622
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: people i think he's going to. Really struggle AND again

623
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I think i made this note like if he was if,

624
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: the draft if he came out fifteen, years ago he'd

625
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: for sure be a first round pick because of how

626
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: the position, has, changed right it's changed.

627
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Pretty dramatic he looks like the classic middle linebacker when

628
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: you think, to yourself the great middle linebackers and they

629
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: what they look like as far, As, build, yes right

630
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: he fits.

631
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: That mold like he kind of reminds me of like

632
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: a body type Of Like, ray lewis like kind of

633
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: those high, shelf pads like the long arms like. Down,

634
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: football yeah he's built. Like that and so all the

635
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: other guys on, the, list like no one really looks.

636
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Like that they're kind of these bigger safety, live movers and.

637
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: He's this he's a THROWBACK and i love how. He

638
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: Plays and i'm just hoping that his athletic is because

639
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: he tested better at the COMBINE than i thought, he

640
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: would that they just didn't ask him to do the coverage.

641
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Stuff enough he's new to the position that he could

642
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: learn how. To, do hey you're fast enough to relate

643
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: to a. Tight end you're fast enough and long enough

644
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: to playman coverage on a. Tight end we just got

645
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: to coach you up and get. You THERE because i

646
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: do think even though he is a, BIG guy i

647
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: think the base movement skills seem to. Be there i'm

648
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: just hoping you can coach them up and get.

649
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: Them, there yeah he is quick to, Spots too like

650
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: he recognizes where the play, is going where the running

651
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: back's gonna go and, He's like i'm gonna beat, you there.

652
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: Very right it's. Very instinctual and he also the thing

653
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: that stood out to me more than all the OTHERS

654
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: that i really liked or just. JUMPED off i, Was,

655
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: like oh. That's cool is he has like a really

656
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: nice pop from. No, momentum, yes right like if he's

657
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: not flat footed because he's on the balls of, his

658
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: feet but he can explode and still hit somebody even

659
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: when there's no running start or a couple of.

660
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Steps start and you made and we made the comparison

661
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: to like those, older linebackers and that's a big part.

662
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: Of it he's got that skill down at such a.

663
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: High level, you know we talked about sweasing, jury SPECIFICALLY

664
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: who i think is a really good. Football player he doesn't, have,

665
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: That right knighton. Has that and it's so and it's

666
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: so hard for me to shut my brain off and,

667
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: be like does that play AT the nfl level because

668
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: my whole ten, year career like that's. What played dudes

669
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: that could do that played at a. High level And

670
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: so i'm just hoping that, that skill which is so

671
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: refined and he's got so much like instinct in the

672
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: run game at a near the line of scrimmage that we, can,

673
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: say hey you tested better than. WE thought i think

674
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: you're in a four or, five, nine four five eight something.

675
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: Like that so. He's fast can we just now get

676
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: him to transfer some of these instincts in the run

677
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: game to just serviceable level pass? Game coverage, and again.

678
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: He didn't they didn't ask him to, do it so

679
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: it feels a little bit unfair to knock him. On

680
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: it but seeing him At The, senior bowl like how

681
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: he struggled with the like those crazy. Athletic BACKS but

682
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: i really like, the player really liked. The projection but

683
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: that is it is a projection because of the. Coverage

684
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: skills so that's the ONLY thing i.

685
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: Gotta Say, ALL right i want to talk about one

686
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: linebacker before we get to your, number one because our

687
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: number ones were, the, same yep but this guy was

688
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: my number two and he's not on your list. At

689
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: all i'm going to Talk About jalen Walker. From georgia, Real,

690
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: quick hey six two two. Forty, Five okay so, he's big, he's,

691
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: physical right he's, Instinctial enough AND what i mean by

692
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: that Is Like derek couple OF plays i Watched the.

693
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: Texas game there are a couple of plays where he

694
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: drops in the zone coverage and, then, realizes okay there's

695
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: nobody in. MY zone i need to go find, Work

696
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: RIGHT and i believe It Was arch manning was in

697
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: the game at. This point i'm going to talk about a.

698
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: Specific play so he, drops Back Sees arch manning, looking,

699
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: Goes okay i'm going to fill this, window HERE so

700
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: i can't he can't throw to the wide receiver, crossing

701
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: here fills. The window arch pulls the. Ball back, he goes,

702
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: all Right now, i'm attacking and then he runs After

703
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: arch manny And makes arch throw this wild. Errant pass it,

704
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: was like that's. Really smart quickly fill, the window then,

705
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Attack RIGHT like i really. Liked that that was a very,

706
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: instinctual play very. Smart play he's not excellent and man

707
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: to man coverage. At. All right he's a. Little slower

708
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: he's a little stiff side, to side like going sideline.

709
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: A sideline he's a little too slow to get you

710
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: get THERE like i. See that, but man he's got

711
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: enough power AND juice i think to be a rusher off.

712
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: The edge he's got a motor and explosiveness to make

713
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: plays near the line. At scrimmage so the reason he's

714
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: my number two IS because i don't know where to.

715
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Place HIM but i think if you say, to him

716
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: we're going to make you a rusher or we're going

717
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: to put you as an off, ball linebacker that does

718
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 2: kind of like you're going to be responsible for this.

719
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: Little area like if you limit what his role is

720
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: and say go do these superpower things, YOU have i

721
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: think he's going to be.

722
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: Very, disruptive yeah he's Basically Like frankie luvu kind of

723
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: like that kind.

724
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Of role so to, me, role yes he's much Stiffer, Than.

725
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah frankie he's not on my LIST because i had

726
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: him just playing straight defensive end like we, should have

727
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: like when we did our, edge list should he like after,

728
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: watching him he should be on. THAT list i think.

729
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: You would and that's why he's so high because he

730
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: can rush. The passer so maybe a team drafts him and, it's,

731
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: like oh he's on my, linebacker list is, number two and, it's,

732
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: like yeah a team's gonna, be like, all right you're

733
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: rushing the pass, and like SO now i look like

734
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: an IDIOT because i had him as, a linebacker but

735
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: he can do that kind of he he can. Do

736
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: it he can do some, zone coverage he can do,

737
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: some man it's just he can't do all of it

738
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: and it's not.

739
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Super, WELL yeah i think that's the thing for me

740
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: with him is like every like even the play you

741
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Described With, archie manning like he's a spy on. That

742
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: player it might not be the, exact one but they

743
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: did In that texas game. Spy him he spied.

744
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: A lot yeah it wasn't in that, exact way.

745
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: But yeah he spies. A LOT and i just think

746
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: he's at his best when he's moving downhill towards the line.

747
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: Of, script absolutely like you.

748
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Want him you want him on the ad line of,

749
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: scrimmage rushing or you want him as the spinner in

750
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: the middle of, the field in the middle of the

751
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: front like blitzing the a gap because he's a. Great

752
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: blitzer you want him attacking the line. Of scrimmage and

753
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: so basically, for me after, watching him like BECAUSE everyone

754
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: i kind OF said i was an, Agile linebacker like

755
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: when you watch his, coverage stuff he's just. TOO stiff,

756
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: i think like that's that's it Sounds like i'm being pejorative,

757
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: to him like he's it's. It's hard it's a complicated position, to,

758
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: play right you got to be able to do. Multiple

759
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: THINGS and i think when he's backing away from a line,

760
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: of scrimmage you're just not getting. A you you just

761
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: take away what makes.

762
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: Him GOOD and i think that's where our. DIFFERENCE is

763
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: i think it's not on our evaluation necessarily the players

764
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: THAT when i was putting, THIS together i was saying, to, myself,

765
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: well okay if he's if he's a, pass rusher just

766
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: make him a. Pass rusher, AND like i think he's

767
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: going to be so good at that that he values

768
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: on number two PLAYER that i watched out of all

769
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: these guys where you're thinking more of like the traditional

770
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: WHAT do i need you in? A linebacker, not traditional

771
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: but WHAT do i need you as a linebacker? Right

772
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: now and maybe he's?

773
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Not, There YEAH so i think the thing for me

774
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: was LIKE if i had to put him at edge,

775
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: FULL time i think he would be the third or

776
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: fourth edge of, the class right you KNOW what? I

777
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: mean SO like i was just, like that that's like

778
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: where he should probably GO because i don't think he'll

779
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: ever be like a true off. BALL player i do

780
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: think he gives you, some flexibility like on versus, second

781
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: down if you want him to do Like The michael

782
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: parsons thing where he's playing linebacker part Time and atlanta scrimmage.

783
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: PART time i THINK when i, WATCH him i. WANT

784
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: him i want him, MOVING forward i want. HIM blitzing

785
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: i want him, being aggressive, because again he's not. Greating

786
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: coverage so, TO me i, was like when you look

787
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: at any when you look at go watch a highlight.

788
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: OF him i think this is a really good kind.

789
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Of benchmark there's it's all him at line of scrimmage

790
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: or blitzing like that's what, he's doing or in, a

791
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: spiral and it's a skill to be. A spy it's

792
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: a skill, to blitz it's a skill to rush. The

793
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: passer and those guys get paid a lot. Of money

794
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: so why not just put him? In THERE because i

795
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: don't think he can cover AT the. Nfl level and

796
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: so That's where, i'd say, like yeah and again like

797
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: this is not an indictment. Of him and he's a

798
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: fourth edge rusher on my, list, Now right so like good,

799
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: PLAYER obviously i just don't think he's like a quote,

800
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: unquote linebacker.

801
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Gotcha one, hundred percent? All right but the number, one, Linebacker.

802
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah johan Campbell, From alabama and this dude man like

803
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want him, to do he can do. It

804
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: right he can take, on blocks he, can blitz he

805
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: can rush from a two point stance off. The edge

806
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: he's pretty fluid in, His hips like he can get

807
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: to spots in. Zone coverage he's he can get to

808
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: pretty much any place On the like it was weird

809
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: watching him because it just was like the just a

810
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: different cut of mover at the size he was at,

811
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: and uh just, really instinctive can take like a nice

812
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: length with, his arms like anything that we've, talked about

813
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: there were deficiency with other players like just weren't. With

814
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: HIM sometimes i wonder about like, his football like his TRUE,

815
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: football iq Like With demarius knighton, For example like you

816
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: can tell he's like he's he's calling, the defense he's

817
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: pointing Stuff Out, john campbell that's not his role in.

818
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: The defense so he's being told what to do quite.

819
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: A bit so, you're like how intuitive? Are you but

820
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: he's instinctive to. The football he, makes plays he. Gets

821
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: downhill he's A decent he's not a. Great tackler he's a,

822
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: decent TACKLER but i think that's all like just in terms.

823
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: Of athlete i'd really understand why people are talking about

824
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: him as like a first round pick, and honestly like

825
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: he's a guy after watching Him where, i'm like if

826
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: he if you wanted, a dynamic explosive piece for, a

827
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: DEFENSE like i could See the commander's taking him at.

828
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Twenty nine like he feels like he could be in

829
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that kind of twenty five to forty range in the

830
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: draft and maybe even higher depending ON how i hate

831
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: doing these like ranges because we haven't done our big.

832
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: Boards YET but i really was impressed, with him like

833
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: he's like explosively impressed with his ability just to do

834
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: kind of whatever you wanted him.

835
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: TO do i think he actually so one of the

836
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: THINGS that i really liked about him is that he

837
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: trusts himselves to go make, plays right and he's, Aggressive

838
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: right like if he thinks this is, a run he's

839
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: attacking it like, play action, be damned like he's going

840
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: and like more often than that. He's, Right yeah so

841
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: a part of, me THINKS like i think that actually

842
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: may speak to HIS football iq or just work ethics

843
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: and IT'S.

844
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: Still i THINK he's i think he's a very. INSTINCTIVE

845
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: player i wonder if like you got him on, the

846
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: board like if he can tell you how we run

847
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: our Cover six like, there's guys what? You, WATCH yeah

848
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: i got what. You're, SAYING yeah, i think but he is,

849
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: He's instinctive like there's no don't, Get IT like i

850
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: don't WANT to i don't want to mince, Words here like.

851
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: HE'S instinctive i mean one of my like THINGS that

852
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: i put in like the red category was like he's

853
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: almost over instinctive and overreactive because sometimes he like he

854
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: gets a little too antsy and he puts himself in

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: a bad position or not a, bad position but like

856
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: makes the. Tackle harder, excuse me because he got there.

857
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Too quick the angle is a little off, the bit

858
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: like man being too quick to a spot is like

859
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: that's a good problem. To have like he's just, so

860
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: athletic really, nice build. Good TACKLER and i wrote down

861
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: here how long are his, arms looking because he looks

862
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: like he's just they.

863
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: Weren't as LONG as i thought. THAT'D be i think

864
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: they were thirty two and. A half but like he

865
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: plays with great he plays.

866
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: With, length yeah, so man what a. GREAT player i

867
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: just really enjoyed. WATCHING him i didn't expect him to

868
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: be as high UP or i like him as much

869
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: because he's he's high up when a lot of big

870
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: boards for people or top linebackers, for people but most

871
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: of them Have Like, jalen WALKER and I just i

872
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: don't know he's but to me like he's very clearly

873
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: the best linebacker in.

874
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: This, GROUP yeah i, Think SO and i think it's

875
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: is his, Game, Perfect NO but i think when you're

876
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: talking about projection IN the, nfl level like the, movement skills,

877
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: the instincts the ability to work away from the football

878
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: and work towards, the football it's all there in a

879
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: full package that not no one else in the draft,

880
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: class has. You KNOW and i THINK and i, actually

881
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: like really like my list after, reviewing it like in

882
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: TERMS of nfl athletes at, the position but he's just a,

883
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: cut above, you know it does feel like he's going

884
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: to be a first round player.

885
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: At linebacker, all right those are a top five. LINEBACKERS

886
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: logan i want you to. Do this read here on your,

887
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: next page and then we're going to the top. Five,

888
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Vibe guys i'm super excited, for this but first tell Me.

889
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: About seekeek, all right.

890
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: This Summer see geek has your ticket to the best

891
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: live concerts IN the Dmv At. Northwest Stadium seek geek

892
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: makes it easy to catch world conquer world conquering tours

893
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: and high wattas performances from your favorite artists all. Summer

894
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: long sea geek has the best seat your seat for

895
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: an unforgettable summer For From rock royalty to, RAP superstars

896
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: R and b to country find it all on, Sea

897
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: geek the official primary ticking Partner Of. Northwest stadium summer

898
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: concerts season officially starts With.

899
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: Sea geek so last year my WIFE and i Use

900
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: sea geek Went To northwest Stadium Saw, Kenny Chesney Oh.

901
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Brown band it was a lot. Of fun that sounds,

902
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: Like fun and we're trying to Get To kendrick lamar.

903
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: This year so our days are kind of all over.

904
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: The place, But like i'm.

905
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Not sure it would be a cool, Concert.

906
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: Coman so i'm going to hit up sea geek see

907
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: what they can do for Me Here. Northwest stadium they

908
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: put on a good. SHOW there i had never been

909
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: to a Concert At northwest stadium before and they did

910
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: a really. Good, job yeah because people there ran a good.

911
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: Tight ship. All right the top five, Vibe, guys okay

912
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: these are guys that are maybe not in our top

913
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: five best players or not high on. BIG boards, I

914
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: mean i have a guy, on here a couple of

915
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: Guys on you're actually that may. Go undrafted that's not.

916
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: The point the point is IS that i hope they

917
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: go drafted because they. Have vibes there's something about. WATCHING

918
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: them i like talking. About them so let's start. WITH

919
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: you i have FIVE because i kind of stuck to

920
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: the the prop to, the PARAMETERS so i will.

921
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: YOU nuts i wanted to use this as a way, to, say,

922
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: hey like this is a guy that has name you

923
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: might know that we maybe have not talked about. That

924
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: much plus a guy that's a little bit maybe under. The.

925
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: Radar sir here's here's how we're gonna do this. Real

926
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: quick i'm not going to talk, about yours you're not

927
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: going to talk. About mine i'm pitching you. The vibe

928
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: you're pitching me. The, vibe okay, all right and that's

929
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: how we're gonna keep. This going does that?

930
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: Make?

931
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Sense?

932
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Perfect yeah? All Right so i'll start OFF with i

933
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: got two d ms on. My list so One Is,

934
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: donovan AZERAKU and i know maybe you've heard. About him

935
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: i've seen him getting mocked To the commanders of twenty

936
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: nine quite. A bit we did not talk about him

937
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: a ton on, our show and to be, FULLY transparent

938
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: i had him off my top ten list by he

939
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: was at. Number eleven BUT then i went back recently

940
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: and watched all of his pressures and the vibe. Was,

941
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: there man the vibe, was high just from a guy,

942
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: who understood understands the dark arts of rushing, the passer right, body,

943
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: position leverage how to protect my, inside shoulder, hand usage,

944
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: spin move how to get the tackle. Off balance he's got,

945
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Great length he's six, to two he's got thirty four,

946
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Inch ARMS and i just, was, LIKE man i didn't realize.

947
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: THIS guy i don't. KNOW what i watched two games,

948
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: from him and he. Showed up. He flashed but to

949
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: watch the pressures back to back to back and how

950
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: he finishes, WITH sacks, i, thought man this is In the.

951
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: Commander's defense this would. Be tremendous AND so i really liked,

952
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: the player like. His wiring loved him At The, senior

953
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: BOWL and i just because we have not talked about

954
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: him A to i figured just throw him out there

955
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: as to why you're seeing him at twenty nine when

956
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: we didn't have him our, top ten and to be,

957
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: fully transparent he was probably one of the FIRST players

958
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: i watched for this. Entire process so sometimes, you know out,

959
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: of sight out, of mind kind of getting back to

960
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: it reviewing some of. The, stuff yeah just incredibly impressed

961
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: with his ability to rush, the passer can win in

962
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: multitude of ways and can bring a lot of juice to.

963
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: A defense here's YOUR Other Dn david Walker From. Central

964
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: arkansas are you familiar? With him you heard that? Name,

965
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: before yeah okay for you that for those of you

966
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: at home. Who haven't he's, six foot he's got thirty two.

967
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: Inch arms he's two hundred and sixty, seven pounds so

968
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: like a tight, fire hydrant tight. Build BODY and i

969
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: went BACK and i Was Watching senior bowl CUTUPS and

970
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: i realized that he did not lose a pass rushing

971
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: rep At The. Senior bowl so, it's like let me

972
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: just go watch some stuff from Him At central arkansas

973
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: and dude looks like a man. Amongst, boys now level

974
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: of competitions a little, bit different but can win with

975
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: the cross shop when with, the bull and he does have.

976
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Atomic POWER and i heard this COM from i heard

977
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: this top com from Somebody The brandon graham Comp And

978
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: brandon krahm is a, shorter guy, heavier guy but plays with.

979
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Elite power and we've seen somebody in recent history with,

980
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: great power And That's. Jared VERSE so i am not

981
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: Saying He's. Jared verse i'm not Saying He's, brandon Graham

982
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: but i'm saying when dudes have that trump card of

983
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: being able to, bowl anybody like He Bowled Anthony Belton

984
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Denton anthony benton At The, senior Bowl And anthony benton

985
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: weighs three hundred and, fifty pounds like he is a

986
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: big dude and he was just eating. People up He

987
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: ate Donovan az arokue but didn't lose a rep At The.

988
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Senior bowl, great power and people are talking about all

989
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: we have to take an edge at. TWENTY nine i

990
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to that if they took an edge of.

991
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Twenty Nine but i'm saying this is a, ball player

992
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: ball player that there's a little bit of risk because of.

993
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: The frame but if you were to take him in

994
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: the SECOND or i think we were a fourth, round

995
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: pick second or, fourth, round man you would be getting

996
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: a guy that could make your defense. Significantly better and,

997
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: to me he reminds me a Lot Of, jalen walker

998
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: like that kind, of, shorter squadier, high power high motor

999
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: type guy and that you could get later in. The

1000
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: draft so just want to give him a.

1001
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: Shout out ten and a, half sacks four forest fumbles

1002
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: is her eight Quarterback hicks like he's he's.

1003
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Putting it on there when you watch Them Es central,

1004
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: Arkansas man like you can just tell these, tackles like,

1005
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: damn it, DAMN it i got to block this guy

1006
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: for the full. Whole game so good ballplayer.

1007
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: For, Sure okay i'm going to pitch you on, some, guys.

1008
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: Dude what i've. Saw you so the first one is an.

1009
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: EASY pitch I think.

1010
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, All Right so i'm going to do two quarterbacks.

1011
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: For you kyle McCord, from, syracuse right he Was At

1012
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: ohio state for three, years before so he's a transfer from.

1013
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: Over there the WAY that i kind of like to

1014
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: describe him is he's a Slightly Shorter joe flacco like

1015
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: that kind of style, and build like there's just nothing.

1016
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: That likes there's no flash. To him but here's why

1017
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: he has vibes. For me RIGHT when i watch. Him

1018
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: play he has a seventy six point nine percent. Win,

1019
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: percentage okay. Pretty good that's second best in school History.

1020
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: At syracuse he was first in school history for three hundred.

1021
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: Yard games he had twelve of them. This year. Pretty

1022
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: good and he owns the consecutive pass record without an

1023
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: interception for. Program mystery that was two hundred and thirty

1024
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: four pass attempts without. An interception so my guy doesn't

1025
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: turn the, Ball over my guy slings.

1026
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: It.

1027
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Around right you.

1028
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Don't need to sell me. ON this i almost had

1029
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: him as my. Fifth, quarterback.

1030
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Okay okay he is great pre post. Snap. Reads right

1031
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: he is a good touch on the ball and zip

1032
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: it really when he needed his arms strings only kind.

1033
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Of solid he can't sling it down the field. Too

1034
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: much That's Where, joe flacco that's six. To Six joe

1035
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: flacco kind of gets him with that arm strength down.

1036
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: The field but it's a nice deep, Ball though like,

1037
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: it's nice it's catch, a, ball right it doesn't wobble in.

1038
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: The air he is not phased. By pressure he does.

1039
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: Not care, all right he's.

1040
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: Got it but he. Looked great he. Looked great He. At,

1041
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: syracuse yeah he looked like. A dude he. Looked yeah

1042
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: really he was. The dude not.

1043
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: Super athletic he's going to stand in. The, pocket really

1044
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: that's gonna be kind of. His thing like you're not

1045
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: going to ask him to run for, first, downs right.

1046
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: He could he can, move around but. He's not he's not.

1047
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: That that he's not going to bring that tool. With

1048
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: him he's going to be basically a. Pocket passer he

1049
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: can get a little aggressive trying to fit in, tight

1050
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: windows and when the game starts to really, speed up

1051
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: that's where his accuracy goes down, for him like when

1052
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: it gets too fast. For him but that's, not often

1053
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: as you saw with the consecutive pass streak without. An

1054
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: interception the reason that vibes are high IS because i

1055
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: don't think he's getting. Enough talk it is possible, TO

1056
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: me i could see him possibly being, the, fourth fifth

1057
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: maybe even third quarterback taken in. THIS draft i could

1058
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: see somebody looking at him, and going this guy with

1059
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: a little bit of tweak could be a very solid

1060
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: backup and potential starter.

1061
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: For us so you've watched more quarterbacks. Than, me Yeah

1062
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: you who's who's your top?

1063
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: Five Guys it's ward, For sure Schuder and dart are

1064
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: pretty close to, each other And then i'm probably getting

1065
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: into The.

1066
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: McCord.

1067
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: SHUCK yeah i really. LIKE sho i Really. LIKE shuck I.

1068
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: Mean i'm staying Away from Gabriel and howard probably maybe

1069
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 2: yours Is in.

1070
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: There was tough watch. FOR me i was like he

1071
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: was on my list, of five but total upside play.

1072
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: For me milroe doesn't have the vibes for me.

1073
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Fast though he's a hell.

1074
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: Of, an athlete but not.

1075
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: Accurately though that's.

1076
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: The, thing, like Yeah like milroe IS like i don't

1077
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: want to Get. Into miroe we're talking about, good, vibe

1078
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: right good vibes.

1079
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: Four. Fifth, guy, yeah yeah and there's just.

1080
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: GOOD vibe i don't think enough people Are talking aboudham.

1081
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK wise I just i think there are some things

1082
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: that he does just as well or maybe even Better. Than,

1083
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: Shadar right so like there's just he's a. Good player

1084
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: he's a real. Good player and obviously he Was At

1085
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: ohio state for. Three years like if You're At, ohio

1086
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: state like they see something. In you there's something. ABOUT

1087
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: him i want to talk about. Another QUARTERBACK and i

1088
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: told you this. Last night he may. Go undrafted he may.

1089
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: Go undrafted he text me. THIS list i, was like

1090
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: what are? We doing but, holy cow are his highlights?

1091
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: A vibe? All right so this is The Quarterback diego Pavia.

1092
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: From vanderbilt everybody remembers the Win versus Alabama. With, vanderbilt

1093
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: okay he had an eighty percent completion percentage in. That

1094
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: game he was on. A fire he got no OFFERS

1095
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: for fbs out of, high school so he plays with

1096
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: kind of this chip on. His shoulder in, high school

1097
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: he was a three sport athlete and a state champion.

1098
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: For wrestling played also football. And baseball he had this

1099
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: season he had and ninety passing yards in twenty tds

1100
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: with only, four interceptions eight hundred and one rushing yards.

1101
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: Eight touchdowns he is a maniac on the field all over.

1102
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: The place he, can run he. Slings it, he's aggressive

1103
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: AND like, i said he can play to the. Big

1104
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: moment With that, alabama game he. Was, nuts okay here's

1105
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: why he might not. Get, drafted also this year He, Played, Texas,

1106
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: Auburn Tennessee, SOUTH carolina lsu all pretty. Good defenses he

1107
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: was under fifty percent completion percentage in, those games which is.

1108
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: Not great so he's not consistent, at all especially against.

1109
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Good teams he had that crazy Game. Against alabama but

1110
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 2: why is he on my top?

1111
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: Five?

1112
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: Vibe guys watch. His highlights he is, A dog he is.

1113
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: An animal he is the best you play. Flag football

1114
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: he's the best flag football player you ever, Played with

1115
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: like just, out there the best athlete you'd. Ever seen

1116
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 2: but he's playing flag football AND not nfl because he's

1117
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: very not good at other things and in, this instance

1118
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: he's not the best at throwing, the football which is

1119
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: what you need. At quarterback but when he, is on

1120
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: he is. A, vibe.

1121
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Well can't wait to go check out. His sighlights we're

1122
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: doing with THIS because i have not watched, Him honestly, SO.

1123
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean it's just fun. To watch if you

1124
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: like watching, fun football Check Out diego Pavia from.

1125
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt's highlights, all RIGHT so i got two Receivers Next

1126
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: jaellen Nole From, iowa STATE and i just he might

1127
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: be on my list of like for sure things, at

1128
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: Receiver like i'm sure you guys have heard. Of him

1129
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: we talked a Lot About, jade higgins the other Receiver From,

1130
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: iowa state and, this, guy man he's, just quick, he's

1131
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: explosive he catches the football well that he's got that dog. In,

1132
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: him man he's got that dog competitor. To him and

1133
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: when you talk to People From, iowa state like that.

1134
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Comes out it's like he. Loves football he loves. To

1135
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: compete shows up on film when you go To The.

1136
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: Senior bowl he's running, outside routes running. Inside routes he's got.

1137
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Great acceleration tested well at. THE combine i think there's

1138
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: a role for him AT the. NFL level i think

1139
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: that's going to predicate in the height of where he,

1140
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: gets drafted, you know in terms of how how. He

1141
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: GOES but i think he is a heck a heck

1142
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: of a. Football player when you're looking at kind of

1143
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: pure slot guys that have some, outside upside, you know

1144
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: kind of in that same vein As like Restrepo. FROM

1145
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: miami i think, this guy to me fits the bill one.

1146
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: Hundred percent and THE more i hear, about him THE

1147
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: more i fall in love, with HIM because i want,

1148
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: dog competitors and he fits the bill for that one.

1149
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: Hundred percent the NEXT receiver i Got Is dante Thornton,

1150
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: from Tennessee and i've had so many people ask me,

1151
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: about him like why are people talking? About him what's? Going,

1152
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: on okay here. We go he had twenty six catches

1153
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: last Year at tennessee, twenty six so not. A lot

1154
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: he had, six touchdowns six hundred and sixty one. Yards,

1155
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: receiving right he. Is explosive he, is explosive. HE'S fast

1156
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: i think he tracks the football. Pretty well, he's big

1157
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: he's six four and, a half he's two hundred and,

1158
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Ten pounds like he looks like A true. X RECEIVER

1159
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: if i if it's the, fifth round sixth round and he's,

1160
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Sitting there i'm pulling the. Trigger man his dude can flat.

1161
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: Out scoot the problem is he only runs goes, and posts,

1162
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: like literally like he runs a go or a post

1163
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: and he's is.

1164
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Your super powered to go?

1165
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: Do it he's really good. At it but as a

1166
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: vibe like he's big and, He's fast i'm, about that,

1167
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: you know like he kind of falls in like the

1168
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: The the ney or, you Know the nebraska RECEIVER that

1169
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: i like. So much he falls in that bucket, For

1170
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: me like is it? A? Projection yes are there things

1171
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: To Be like mayor had a, ten ras this guy

1172
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: had a nine nine. Eighty seven like that's a Vibe

1173
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: and i'm about it because it's going to add a

1174
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: huge element to THE like i think about for, the

1175
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: commanders like your ability to take the top off, a

1176
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: defense to play, special teams to play gunn or something.

1177
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: Like that like that's a VIBE and i. Like it,

1178
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: but again people aren't talking about him in there's like

1179
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: a second round pick or a third round pick because

1180
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: he had twenty. Six catches, but yeah the go of

1181
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: the post is a vibe and he's a big dude.

1182
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Can RUN so i have a question.

1183
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: For, you, yeah ah do You Like?

1184
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: LAGARRETT blunt i Do Like.

1185
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: Lagarrett blund he's a kind of a. Vibe guy he's

1186
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: for sure a. Vibe guy one of my favorite runner

1187
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: backs of like of my era of.

1188
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: Playing football, all right let me tell You About alli

1189
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: gordon in the second because he reminds Me Of. Laguarrett

1190
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: bunt he's just. Big, boy okay he's six two two,

1191
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: twenty five but he plays bigger. Than, that honestly he has,

1192
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: good vision hits a hole with decisive, and power can

1193
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: wiggle a little bit to get in, muddy areas wrapping

1194
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: them up. As difficult not, super, fast right but he

1195
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: has big things going. For him three. Of them three

1196
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: Big things i'm gonna tell you about. All right for,

1197
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: number one excellent hands for, his size and his. Run

1198
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: style he gets busy in pass protection almost like he,

1199
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: loves it. Loves it and he's a bruiser who will

1200
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Wear d, lineman down slow their pass rush once you

1201
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: get to the. FOURTH quarter i just see like a

1202
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 2: team Like, the Bills, the ravens they'd love a guy

1203
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: like this one. Their team he's not gonna be in every.

1204
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: Down back he's not going to be. Your bellcow but

1205
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: you bring this, guy in maybe he develops into Like

1206
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: A lagarrett blunt type. Of style good, enough hands but

1207
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 2: just a. Bruising runner not it's, super fast but fast enough.

1208
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Like that THAT'S what i See From. Ali gordon the

1209
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: second we just did, running backs we didn't talk. About

1210
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: him he, WAS like i hope right outside your top

1211
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: ten we were talking, about him but his Vibes Are. Legarrett,

1212
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: Blunt yeah and that's an asset to, a TEAM so.

1213
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: I didn't so the thing about him is LIKE when

1214
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: i see a, BIG back i want him to break

1215
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: tackles consistently and he, runs hard but he's like contact

1216
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: balance wasn't there. For, me again the pass, pro stuff

1217
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: the way he catches, THE football i think. It's great

1218
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: AND so I think i like the way you. Characterize

1219
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: that like maybe at the next level his role is

1220
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: like third down pass catcher as opposed to first or second.

1221
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: Down guy as, he develops, and yeah.

1222
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: He's going to get. In there he's going to pass pro.

1223
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: On that if you hand them, the ball he's going

1224
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: to bruise somebody, right like.

1225
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: But he doesn't like he kind of a first contact

1226
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: usually brings. HIM down, i mean he's finishing the run

1227
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: like he's punishing. The guy but he's not like you

1228
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: know your cam scatabooze or you know you're he's junkins

1229
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: where you're making people miss and doing. Some stuff he's.

1230
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: A vibe he's, a vibe. For sure he's. A vibe,

1231
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: all right they are doing.

1232
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Construction here if you guys can hear that over. The

1233
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: pod i'm not going to tell them. To stop so

1234
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: we're just gonna roll. Through it they're making the locker,

1235
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: ROOMS better i think. Right, now, yeah which WHY would

1236
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: i tell them to stop that while we're doing? This

1237
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: pod this pod is nearly not important enough to stop

1238
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: the locker rooms from. Looking nice, So Yeah adam Peters

1239
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: And dan quinn are really and the ownership group are

1240
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 2: really investing in, this place and that's an. Exciting thing

1241
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: so it's used. The noise we are actually excited that

1242
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: they're doing this Round hered so if it's a little

1243
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: off putting in on, THE audio. I apologize i'll do

1244
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: my best to clean. It up but thanks for sticking,

1245
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: with us, all Right leg.

1246
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: So we got tight ENDS and i just, figured like

1247
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about some tight ENDS that i like that

1248
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: we didn't, talk about we didn't talk about With with

1249
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: jeremy when we do. The show so first Off is Benjamin.

1250
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: Nei asik and he's a guy THAT when i watched,

1251
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: the film. He's good he's good at doing tight, end stuff,

1252
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: inline stuff full, back stuff, great hands, great footwork, good

1253
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: fit understands how to leverage, people out and he can

1254
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: run a. Little, BIT yeah I think i don't think.

1255
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: He talked we talked about him our top five list

1256
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: because he's a little. Bit smaller he's like six three

1257
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: and a half, six four but two. Forty five usually

1258
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: don't see those inline guys built that. Same way they're

1259
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: built a little. Bit bigger they're like in the two

1260
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: fifty two sixty two seventy, type Range Like jackson Hawes From.

1261
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: Georgia tech but he plays like that, like great a

1262
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: great run game TECHNICIAN that i think's going to make

1263
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: a roster IN. The nfl the other Guy is Aronde

1264
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: gats in the Second. From sarahcuse he's so the idea

1265
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: of him is. The vibe so like the, First Guy

1266
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: benjamin arosik is the VIBE because i just love the

1267
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: technicality that he plays WITH and i love, The athlete

1268
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: SO like i think he's Gonna be Arndi gatst in.

1269
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: The vibe the vibe is what he. Can be he's

1270
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: six five and, a half he's got thirty four. Inch

1271
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: arms he can he's a converted. Wide receiver and The

1272
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: way sarah accues, used him like it's funny when you

1273
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: were Talking about, KYLE McCord i, was, Like man gatson

1274
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: caught so many of these balls where you can kind

1275
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: of play isolation basketball with him put him on, the

1276
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: perimeter catch a, fade run a, slant run a, hitch

1277
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: run a. Deep cross he's really tight in, his HIPS

1278
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: so i worry about his ability to separate in the.

1279
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Short area but when you, think about like kind of

1280
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: the next machination of past catching tight ends with that kind,

1281
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: Of frame that's what gets me really excited, About him,

1282
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: and like you have to fit him like kind Of Like.

1283
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Oli gordon you got to be in the. Right role

1284
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: they got to use. Him correctly but the idea of

1285
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: what a body, that big that moves, like that that

1286
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: catches the football in contested catch situations the way he

1287
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: does can be at the next level is. Very, exciting logan.

1288
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: My guy the next one is the edge Rusher From Marshall,

1289
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: mike green, You're, cheating okay it's. Not cheating. Here's why

1290
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: when we came From The, SENIOR bowl i saw mock

1291
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: drafts having him go in the. Top ten now he

1292
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: is falling down to the later. First ROUND feel i

1293
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: think We are it may be, course CORRECTING but i

1294
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: think maybe we're falling. Too far, and ORIGINALLY originally i

1295
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 2: on this podcast was very hesitant about him and talked

1296
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: about like the why is he up? So high? Right

1297
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: now i'm you, know What now i'm On The mike

1298
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: green TRAIN because i want to enter. The dragon this

1299
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: Dude Is. BRUCE lee i made the comparison, Earlier, that

1300
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: Okay He's. Bruce lee what if he Runs Into cliff

1301
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: booth from once upon a Time in hollywood and like, a,

1302
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: bigger stronger faster guy and They Just bruce lee just

1303
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: can't stay. With it but guess What About. Cliff Booth

1304
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: cliff booth, Is Fictional bruce lee is a real and

1305
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: what if he Really Is, bruce lee like The Legit?

1306
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: Bruce LEE like i want this vibe around seventeen sacks,

1307
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: this year twenty two and a half tackles, for losses

1308
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: eighty four. Tackles overall this dude is, just, fast fluid

1309
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: has all. THE moves I don't i know if he

1310
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: can do it at the. Next level that is the

1311
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: pause because Of the marshall and the talent that he

1312
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: went against there in the level. Of competition but if

1313
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: he CAN take i don't need seventeen sacks. From him

1314
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: if he can come in and be a EIGHT nine

1315
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: sat guy in his, rookie year oh, my gosh that's.

1316
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: Striking GOLD So i brustolee is. A vibe he is.

1317
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: A vibe his film is one of the more. Fun

1318
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: films i'm probably the funnest film. To, watch like he's.

1319
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: Just disruptive he's, a PLAYMAKER like i got, nothing baddest.

1320
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Nothing badest it.

1321
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: Does like this basketball euro, step move which.

1322
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: Is, awesome yeah he's a, great, Player man, and yeah

1323
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: so it is. A vibe his. Film is if you

1324
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: haven't watched, this film go watch a highlight clicking. On

1325
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: YouTube it's a good way to spend fifteen minutes, because

1326
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: man he has a lot of fun.

1327
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: To Watch, all right your last two guys And then

1328
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: i'm gonna do my last two, guys last because you're

1329
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: two GUYS like. I don't your vibe IS very. O

1330
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: line my guys are, wide RECEIVERS and i think mine

1331
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: are more fun to, Talk About so i'm going to.

1332
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: Do them so tell me ABOUT your o. Line vibes

1333
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: why are they a vibe?

1334
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: For You So jalen Travis From iowa state has been. A,

1335
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: vibe like so it's a vibe for ME because i

1336
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: hated HIM when i first, watched Him and i've slowly

1337
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: come around to thinking like if you need an offensive

1338
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: lineman who could potentially play left tackle for you AT the,

1339
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: nfl level and you need to pick him after the

1340
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: fourth like, in, fourth, fifth sixth seventh round kind. Of,

1341
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Selection right I'm Taking.

1342
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: Jalen travis so it's just you fighting off maybe a

1343
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: confirmation bias that you first started with. With him you

1344
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: said you're slowly coming around. To him is he less

1345
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: of a vibe and more of vibe checking Logan.

1346
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: Post he's become a? Vibe now like just because so

1347
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: this is, what, Happened right so GOT the All TWENTY

1348
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: so i watched a highlight of HIM and i, was

1349
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: like this guy's. TOO slow i. Can't move AND then

1350
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: i WATCHED a all twenty TWO and i, was like.

1351
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: He's big he's got a nice. Vertical kickset he uses

1352
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: his length. So well he's got these big. Old hands

1353
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: he's got thirty four and a half, inch arms he's.

1354
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: Six seven he's one of the bigger GUYS that i

1355
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: think he's the second biggest guy at. The, mine like

1356
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: he's a. Huge man and then you watch his last

1357
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: five games he, all had they're all blue past protection grades,

1358
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: for HIM and, i, thought well can he run block

1359
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: because usually those heavier guys can't run, block right and.

1360
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: He does he's able to kind of cut off the,

1361
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Backside three he's able to pull and get. Into space

1362
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: he's able to pull on like tackle traps. And STUFF

1363
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: and i, was like why aren't more people talking about,

1364
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: a big athletic dude with length that had a thirty

1365
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: five inch vertical at the combine that ran a five

1366
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: to One forty like he's, an athlete, he's big he's

1367
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: a former, basketball player and in a draft that's starved

1368
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: of offensive, line talent specifically, at tackle he feels like

1369
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: a guy people should be talking about much much higher

1370
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: than where he's being. Talked about so, to me the

1371
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: vibe IS like i Feel like i'm standing on an island,

1372
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: by myself, you know Touting What jalen travis. Could BE

1373
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: but i if for especially before They the commander Traded For,

1374
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: LAROMY tunsel i, was like if they don't to pick

1375
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: someone in the, first round who else would? It be

1376
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: he was definitely he definitely moved into that pantheon, of

1377
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: PLAYER and i just don't understand why more people aren't talking.

1378
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: About him so this is my kind of shot from

1379
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: the soapbox Talk About. Jaalen travis then then. THAT'S one

1380
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: i didn't realize this For Both Nam Jalen jalen Rivers.

1381
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: FROM miami i was watching a Guy from syracuse last

1382
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: NIGHT and i Was Watching jalen rivers and he had

1383
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: A Rough. Senior bowl but watching him again last Night,

1384
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: AT syracuse i watched more film, with HIM and i

1385
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: just remembered HOW much i liked him on the. First

1386
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: watch he IS an nfl ready, offensive guard like he

1387
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: is going to come in day one make your offensive.

1388
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: Line better, he's big, he's strong, he's athletic he, understands

1389
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: angles he understands like he, understands leverages and you see

1390
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: him when he punches people like the life LEAVES. Their

1391
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: bodi he's got, strong hands he's got, strong position he's got.

1392
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: Great BRACE so i DON'T think i talked about him

1393
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: On The Old, line SHOW but i in terms, of

1394
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: vibe like he IS an o, line, vibe, physical nasty

1395
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: tough and just, gets it.

1396
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: GETS it i love that he's your last one because

1397
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: that's you and an right what you love that nasty

1398
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: physical AND here i am my last few guys ARE

1399
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: because i like the, flash, vibes right.

1400
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: LIKE vibe i like.

1401
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: FLASHY things i like. Shiny things so here's. A Vibe

1402
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: it's oregon's, Wide Receiver. Tesz. Johnson vibe here's. A vibe.

1403
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: All Right so i'm going to start off with. The

1404
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: Negative So, tank dell he gets compared to. A Lot

1405
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: tank dell is, five eight one hundred and sixty. Five

1406
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: pounds he ran a four four. Nine Okay tes johnson is,

1407
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: five nine one, fifty, six small, ten, pounds smaller ran

1408
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: a four or five. To, one okay you would expect being,

1409
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: that small, that's skinny maybe run a little faster than

1410
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 2: four or five.

1411
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: One.

1412
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: Maybe okay so that's. The negative everybody looks. At us,

1413
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: he's small. He's tiny he's not super fast for being small.

1414
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: And.

1415
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Tiny okay he's ninety ninth percentile and.

1416
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: Separation rate he also ran the fastest, three cone which would.

1417
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Support this at the combine.

1418
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: He had in twenty, twenty three he had eighty six

1419
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: receptions and eighty two yards. Ten touchdowns last year eighty,

1420
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: three receptions eight hundred and ninety, eight yards. TEN touchdowns

1421
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: i don't care that. He's small he can play, FOOTBALL now, i,

1422
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: MEAN obviously i care that, he's small, but like as

1423
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: far as, a vibe the dude can.

1424
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: PLAY football i think he'll be the smallest receiver. Ever

1425
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: drafted and you, know what.

1426
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: THAT'S fine i want to see HERE'S what. I want

1427
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: i want to See The denver broncos draft him in

1428
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: a later round to go play with His Brother. Bo

1429
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: nixy and They Drafted troy franklin, last year, AND frankly

1430
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: I Think tedes johnson is a better wide Receiver Than.

1431
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: Troy franklin he's not built the, same right but he's

1432
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: just there is Something About tesz johnson when he's on.

1433
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: The field he, is small he. Is tiny he didn't

1434
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: run a super, fast forty but he just gets defenders turned.

1435
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: All around he is just dynamic on.

1436
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: The Field dynamics thomas and the one ON ones i

1437
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: one HUNDRED pound I, love thomas but He Made ario

1438
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: thomas look kind. Of silly So he's he's a very

1439
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: talented player.

1440
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: FOR sure i mean he just stresses defenses AND it's

1441
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: i can't put my finger on what it is about

1442
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: him that is like that could translate because sometimes being

1443
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: quick And like jukie and like all that's great until

1444
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: you What did, tyson say like it's great to have

1445
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: a plan until you get punched in, the, Face right

1446
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: like and maybe he just gets hit by, a dude

1447
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: and like, that's that but. Maybe not and he is

1448
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: A vibe and if you're going to take a late

1449
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: round flyer on, a guy why not a guy who

1450
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: has been productive at a major program WITH an nfl quarterback.

1451
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: Behind him and we're starting to see wide receivers get

1452
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 2: smaller and faster, Now, anyway like let's take a chance

1453
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: with this dude because he brings.

1454
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Good, vibes yeah, the uh the film is excellent at

1455
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: the separation rate. Is AWESOME but i think if you

1456
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: took him with the, fourth rind he'd be pretty stoked

1457
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: because he's gotta make your. Offense BETTER but i do

1458
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: WORRY about i wonder if.

1459
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: He falls further, than that in, which case like, that's great.

1460
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: GREAT.

1461
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: Value, Roi. Yeah okay the Last guy i'm going to

1462
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: talk about kind of, The opposite like definitely.

1463
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: The opposite what are you? Talking, about yeah.

1464
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: So this is another, wide receiver But. From stanford this

1465
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: is ELIC.

1466
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: Aomn R yeah. A man i want to say IO.

1467
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Man R but i think it MIGHT be.

1468
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a. Man or he's six two two

1469
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: ten ran a four.

1470
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: Four, four yes.

1471
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: Pretty fast he's only twenty one. YEARS old i realized

1472
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: he was. That young he's, pretty. Young right he was

1473
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: a red shirt sophomore in this. Past year he's going

1474
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: to be A true x at the, NEXT level. I

1475
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: think and, all right here's one of THE things i loved.

1476
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: About him run.

1477
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Blocking dog he looks like a. Bodybuilder man he's a,

1478
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: big guy.

1479
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: Wants to get in there like it's it's, almost, LIKE

1480
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: hey i need to be good at running routes. HE

1481
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: is i need to be good at my releases. HE

1482
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: is i need to be good at catching. The ball

1483
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: he's good. AT that i need to. Run block he

1484
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: like prioritize it just as much as everything else at.

1485
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: THE position i love that. About, him oh by, the

1486
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: Way For, tes johnson he's also a, willing blocker, very

1487
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: ineffective but he gets. IN there i love that. From,

1488
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: him anyway Back. To elk so here's the thing that

1489
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: stood out to ME that i love About air manor

1490
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: and why he brings. The vibe Stanford played colorado in twenty. Twenty,

1491
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: three okay in the first half to You Be ashton

1492
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: daniels to air manor it was one target to him for. Zero,

1493
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: Yards Okay travis hunter was covering Elec, Airmenor Now, travis

1494
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: hunter is he your, number one number? Two, corner yeah

1495
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: he's doing, over one number, one corner, All right so

1496
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: number one corner he gets number. One corner stanford is

1497
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: losing zero points to. Twenty nine, all right so you're throwing. The,

1498
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: ball yep you Know the stanford throwing. The ball the

1499
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: best corner in the draft, this year maybe one of

1500
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: the best players in the draft. This year just. Full

1501
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 2: Stop travis hunter is now. Covering you what do? You do,

1502
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: thirteen receptions two hundred and ninety, four yards three touchdowns

1503
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: for a forty six to forty three. Overtime win That's

1504
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: With ashton daniels as. Your quarterback so my point being

1505
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: IS that i think this guy can do it at the.

1506
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: NEXT level i think he is. BEING undervalued i think

1507
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: he is going to be an excellent. Wide receiver he

1508
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: can do it in. Big moments he can do it

1509
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 2: when the pressure. Is won he can do it against.

1510
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: The best he can do it when maybe not the

1511
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: best is throwing you. The ball he has a massive.

1512
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: Catch radius his back's a. Little stiff he looks a.

1513
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: LITTLE stiff i. Don't care he. Makes plays everything about

1514
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 2: this guy is a VIBE that i want.

1515
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: You Pick tes Johnson And alec ayamaner because they both

1516
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: have kind of like the. Opposite issues, you know one

1517
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: is too but incredibly shifty and, great separator and then

1518
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: a man or is big and he looked like he

1519
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: couldn't look more LIKE an x, wide receiver but has

1520
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: a hard time separating at the, highest level but really

1521
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: good and get tested. Catch situations but they.

1522
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 2: Both produce they do they, do that and that's the vibe.

1523
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: That's right at, some point all, these measurables all these

1524
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: are your, little stiff you're a. Little this all of.

1525
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: That matters all of. It matters where Do you where

1526
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: would you draft that? Some way is he a second

1527
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: round player? For you or is he a third?

1528
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: Round player let me let me pull, YOU know i

1529
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: haven't done a big, board YET but i Would like

1530
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: ted McMillan off the top of, My Head. TRAVIS hunter

1531
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 2: i think they're better. WIDE Receivers A MECCA buka i think. Is, safer,

1532
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah Right, Uther Burden matthew golden are kind of there

1533
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: an and then and then maybe right.

1534
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: In there oh, really.

1535
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, In There like i'm looking.

1536
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: At it so second he's the second round player. For, you.

1537
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Second ROUND but i think it's what you're. Looking

1538
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: for like if if You See luther burden and, you're,

1539
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: LIKE hey i want like a guy that could potentially

1540
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: be the A true x And like i'm Nervous about burden's.

1541
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Injury History maybe i'm taking him higher. Than, there Yeah

1542
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: maybe i'm taking them. Over.

1543
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: That, YEAH no i think he's an interesting prospect because

1544
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: he feels like a third round kind of guy. Of

1545
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: ME but i think he's a good. Football player and

1546
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: if you get a guy who could be, you know

1547
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: a rotational acts to start and rookie year and then

1548
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of develop and maybe into.

1549
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: Something MORE if i was a part of your, Guaranteed

1550
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: ballers i'd put him. IN there i just he's done

1551
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: it against, good competition he's, done it he's done it

1552
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: in every, possible way and. He's young he's. Still, Young

1553
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so i'm.

1554
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: With, IT man i. Like him that's a. Good, list

1555
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: man that's a fun that's a.

1556
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: Fun segment So our Top Five vibe guys ended up

1557
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: being fourteen because we are psychopaths and we can't not

1558
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: talk about the Draft and pross number.

1559
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: Under, Percent, man well thanks. For listening please make sure

1560
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,120
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1561
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: there's guys wh want us to. Talk about we've talked

1562
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: about a lot, of guys so it's hard for me

1563
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: to imagine that we haven't talked about someone you want

1564
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: but like, the uh, you Know The dante thornton thing

1565
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: like that. Came up if there's a guy, like that

1566
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,200
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1567
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