WEBVTT - You Robbed A Billionaire From Inside A Prison?

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Dutton, Zarain Burnett. What is up girl? Oh? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know? Do you gotta second? I got a

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<v Speaker 1>quick question? Go ahead. Do you know what's ridiculous? We do?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Share it with a brother. Now. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally I'm all about the food mashups. Not today, thank god?

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<v Speaker 1>Today is it my birthday? No? Today I'm doing clothing mashups. Hey, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know that I love the Adidas. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do know. I own far too many pairs of

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<v Speaker 1>the Adidas um soda you dream about shoes? I do. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is disappointing for me. Well because I usually like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much anything Adidas puts out. But then they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of missed the mark on something worse than some of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeremy Scott stuff. Yeah. Damn. Um. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>crossover with the Simpsons, and you'd think that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be all Bart Simpson like radical dude, cowabunga man, eat

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<v Speaker 1>my shorts. No, it's um Adidas and the Simpsons shoes

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<v Speaker 1>for International left handers Day. It's um ned Flanders Adidas

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<v Speaker 1>and let me give you the sea let me descriptions,

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<v Speaker 1>uh left handers rule exclamation point. These mccarton shoes pay

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<v Speaker 1>homage to a classic and timeless Adida's trainer and honor

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite left hander in Springfield, Ned Flanders. The packaging

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<v Speaker 1>and poster called back to the Left Orium. They're made

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<v Speaker 1>from smooth leather with a rubber outsol. They're ugliest, sin

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<v Speaker 1>like no, and like they all you know, I'm intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like bad, like you're supposed to look

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<v Speaker 1>like ned Flanders shoes and they do so. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know how like they always show they have the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>right on the website and it's only showing the right shoe,

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<v Speaker 1>right right. It's supposed to be for left hand, left foots,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple foots. Oh boy, this is melting my brain. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I find this ridiculous and I concur okay, ridiculous. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got a second, I got one for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's better. No, no, no, this one is

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<v Speaker 1>is is strange, it's ridiculous, and it's criminal. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you would like it. Once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 1>a Georgia inmate in state custody, he smuggled in a

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<v Speaker 1>contraband phone, which people do, and he gets it into

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<v Speaker 1>prison and he uses this phone to impersonate a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not all, Elizabeth. He also purchased six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>gold coins that were worth about eleven million dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>he did this with the billionaire's investment account. That's not all, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not done yet. Next, he bottoms off a

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<v Speaker 1>multimillion dollar house with a billionaire's money on this phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still in prison. Wow, this is ridiculous. Crime of

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all murder free and ridiculous, Elizabeth, this story I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to tell you. To be clear, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you to know this from the get There are no

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<v Speaker 1>heroes in this story. There aren't even anti heroes in

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<v Speaker 1>this story. Yeah. For the record, I do not like

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<v Speaker 1>this inmate. He's not one of my dudes. Also, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not rooting for the billionaire in this story. Surprised but

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<v Speaker 1>I know. But I promise you this is one hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a story. So buckle up, Buttercup. Before we dig

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<v Speaker 1>into this first story, though, I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>whet your appetite. I had an appetizer at a moose bush.

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<v Speaker 1>As you like to call them. Yes, so the headline

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<v Speaker 1>read a starter billionaire spends thirty five million to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred thousand dollar wine fraud. Wine fraud. Yes, spends

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five million to investigate four hundred dollar loss. Essentially. Now, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 1>you may be thinking, Sarah, I'm not the best at math,

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<v Speaker 1>but that sounds like a waste of money. It does.

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<v Speaker 1>You are right, Elizabeth, that is a percent of waste

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<v Speaker 1>of money. But all depends on what you're buying, and

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, he was buying I think peace of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a second, which one is? What's who is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So the billionaire in question, I'm glad you asked, is

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Coke family. Yes, I've seen this documentary. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Coke Sary's brother of Charles and David Coke. So

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<v Speaker 1>so now this guy, he's not the failed son, the

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<v Speaker 1>one who makes those ugly shirts. That guy is Wyatt Coke.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the founder of Wyatt Ingraham, which is the shirt company. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>One story I found said is a fashion line. That

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<v Speaker 1>quote answers the question what if Tommy Baham his dad

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<v Speaker 1>had paid for him to go to Harvard are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get into Harvard, I should get the quote, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So not that Coke brother, Paper Coke, which one's a

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<v Speaker 1>toilet picker, don't they have like the family, Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, the family is big into papers. So this

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<v Speaker 1>Coke brother, the Bill Coke, he he owns these bottles

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<v Speaker 1>of wine, right, He's got these four bottles of wine

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<v Speaker 1>that once belonged to Thomas Jefferson. If you've seen the documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this. He spends four dollars to get them.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to find out they are not Thomas Jefferson wine,

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<v Speaker 1>just normal wine put into expensive labels. That's all up

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<v Speaker 1>in there, exactly a little boxed wine for the brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bill Coke he gets all piste right, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like discovers his figure. He's like what what this is outrageous? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I'm an idiot. I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money to good peace of mind. So

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<v Speaker 1>he hires a private investigator to check out the provenance

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<v Speaker 1>of all of his wine collection. Right, So he discovers

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<v Speaker 1>he's been do numerous times. A billionaire gets embarrassed. He

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<v Speaker 1>gets mad, so he pays this private dick to check

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<v Speaker 1>all every single bottle he owns his entire collection, So

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. How many bottles do you think, dude have?

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<v Speaker 1>He had four hundred, four hundred fake bottles of wine.

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<v Speaker 1>I have vague memories of them, Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the documentary, but I don't remember the Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this quote, maybe you know, bring some bells for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Coke said, and I quote there is a code

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<v Speaker 1>of silence in this business because obviously the faker doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want anybody to know that he's making fake wine. The

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<v Speaker 1>auction house doesn't want to know that, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>collector himself generally doesn't want to know that, or if

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<v Speaker 1>he finds out, he wants to find a secret way

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<v Speaker 1>to dump it and get his money back because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a He's like, I'm going to drink any of this stuff, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh No, sometimes they do. I mean some collectors do,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time. Not they will exhibit it to

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<v Speaker 1>other wine collectors, like look at my Thomas Jefferson bottles.

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<v Speaker 1>They will never get open. Right. So this cat he decides,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to break the wheel. So he goes and

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<v Speaker 1>he gets his private investigator, as I told you, looking

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<v Speaker 1>at all his fraudulent bottles. The dude tracks down the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who sold him the bottles of Thomas Jefferson fake wine,

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<v Speaker 1>right that guy loves in Germany. Bill Coke sues him.

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<v Speaker 1>He wins a one million dollar like just a judgment

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<v Speaker 1>from him right now. Any lawyer will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mother's a lawyer, she'll tell you this. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to see that money. Yeah, that's just not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, Nope, it doesn't matter. I'm rich already.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing it for the money. I want peace

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<v Speaker 1>of mind. So he starts going again. He pays lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>to go after people. He's suing everyone he can, and

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<v Speaker 1>like some Cape crusader, he decides he's going to protect

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<v Speaker 1>all the other dumb, ultra rich people like him. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I gotta protect us, so his private investigator

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<v Speaker 1>keeps working. The private dick finds that the bulk of

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<v Speaker 1>the fraudulent wine that he has purchased all came from

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<v Speaker 1>the same con man in Los Angeles. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who would take literally Fronsia common just wine

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<v Speaker 1>poured into expensive bottles and selitude foolish ultra wealthy people

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<v Speaker 1>this wine labeled conment. He gets tried, convicted, and sentence

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<v Speaker 1>So Bill Coke once again gets his some more justice.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not done, Elizabeth. Bill Coke is on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets on his batman cow and he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>after the auction house. The auction house is like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about selling you the fig timas Jefferson Wine. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, and they're like, oh yeah, here's read.

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<v Speaker 1>This is called the statute of limitations. Now blow. So

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<v Speaker 1>the auction house is in the clear because statue limitations

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<v Speaker 1>are up. Dudes, not done though, He's like, who else

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<v Speaker 1>can I go after? So Bill Coke says, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent over thirty five million doing all that. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a dog on a bone. I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>give up. Remember this, he's doing this to protect rich idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, yeah, he's spent four thousand. He's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>no million out Some people have too much money, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the L dude, right, is a cheaper L. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, wants peace of mind. So when you have

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of money, this is what you can do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. This is the foolishness. And this is like

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<v Speaker 1>this multi year wine investigation. This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>behavior you can expect from billionaires. So I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that in mind as I tell you this story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking of, like, we got teachers working second

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<v Speaker 1>and third jobs, and then this dude's like my wines

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<v Speaker 1>fake totally throws the further class materials out of their

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<v Speaker 1>own pocket. I mean yeah, and this guy's like million

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<v Speaker 1>to make me happy. Anyway, enough of Bill Coke. You

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<v Speaker 1>ready for one of the biggest heist ever pulled off

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<v Speaker 1>from inside an American prison? Yes? Please, Elizabeth. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to like bust you out on this, but you

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<v Speaker 1>once taught in a prison. I did at a federal facility. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>college English classes right right. So when you were doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to go through all the prison security. It

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<v Speaker 1>was they would check everything. Even I think you once

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<v Speaker 1>told me an underwire bra was something they would check. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on what part of the prison you're going into.

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<v Speaker 1>So the yard, what you would is like the traditional

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<v Speaker 1>big prison. Yeah, that's like I couldn't have bobby pins

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<v Speaker 1>in my hair, the head couldn't wear an underwire bra. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The camp, which is like where the trustees are um,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have. I mean I was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>through it, but it was just I just would show

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<v Speaker 1>up a much more trust and yeah, so I on

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<v Speaker 1>those days, like I could have, you know, bobby pins

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<v Speaker 1>in my hair and an underwear a brown. Let's say

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<v Speaker 1>one of your students when you were in the yard

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<v Speaker 1>asked you to smuggle on the phone so that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you ten grand. How difficult would it be to

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<v Speaker 1>smuggle a phone in? It would be pretty rough, I think, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I did smuggle something in once

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<v Speaker 1>because now tell me more. Um, they have a limited

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<v Speaker 1>library and in a book, I did, and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them. But it wasn't like you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just said that was it was materials for the class.

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<v Speaker 1>It was outside of the materials for the class, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't anything incendiary. It was just interesting books that

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get in their library. So technically I smuggle

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<v Speaker 1>that counts. That counts, I'll give you. And I used

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<v Speaker 1>to also bring them like highlighters, which I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 1>probably wound up using as like crack pipes, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyways, they needed him for my class, and they

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<v Speaker 1>these were good dudes, like my students were really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that now. The from what I understand, the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the contraband comes into prisons, is brought in

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<v Speaker 1>by the correctional officer. Yeah, that is true, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind. Also as I'm telling you this story,

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<v Speaker 1>this story is going to take place inside the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Corrections. So just you know one state south

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<v Speaker 1>of South Carolina, specifically, it's the Special Management Unit, which

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, the Maximum Security Wing. Okay, So he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the state's maximum security facility for the state's most

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<v Speaker 1>serious offenders and violent offenders. Right, and that's where this

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<v Speaker 1>dude is hardened criminals in May. His name is Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Cofield Jr. You can call him June the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one year old because locked up on a fourteen year

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<v Speaker 1>bid for armed robbery. Right, he's like a career criminal

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<v Speaker 1>and he got his start young. Now, Cofield was a

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<v Speaker 1>documented gang member. He's has active criminal ties to the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, he from inside of prison he arranged to shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>so like he was like actively yeah, that's why he's

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<v Speaker 1>not my dude. But to do that, he had to

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<v Speaker 1>use a contraband phone. Right now, Cofield only had a

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<v Speaker 1>few more months left on his time for his armed

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<v Speaker 1>robbery and so he had a plan to set himself

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<v Speaker 1>up for once he gets back outside. So, as we've covered,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no great surprise that a prisoner like Cofield was

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<v Speaker 1>able to have the smuggled cell phone, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the prison guards who were getting it into him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he had a history of having smuggled cell phones

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<v Speaker 1>on him. He had even caught twelve times. Twelve times,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not any better going. Maybe we should check

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, but you know whatever, Now, back in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I found a report that he had a Verizon LG

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<v Speaker 1>touchscreen phone and the charger. They were found concealed into

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<v Speaker 1>cofields crotch. Like he's like just gotten tucked in the

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<v Speaker 1>crotch phone. Yeah, he's just tucking a phone. But he

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<v Speaker 1>gets written up for the contraband phone. Cofield says, and

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<v Speaker 1>I quote, I don't give it about that phone. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had hundreds of phones, right, So he's like flexible. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that once the guy, once the guy has the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're probably going to have more than one. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a student who um got transferred to a different

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<v Speaker 1>facility because they found four cell phones under his bed

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<v Speaker 1>and was he selling over those just his I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't ask, you know, and cry, but yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was he had a little hash of them under there.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently when I was doing my research into this, I

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<v Speaker 1>found all these stories about like just how good people

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten about smuggling in things into prison. They're now

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<v Speaker 1>using drones to you read the freak stories, Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>tied a phone to a cat, or we got this

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<v Speaker 1>pigeon trained to bring in drugs like meth there into

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<v Speaker 1>a prison. Right, those stories are out there, but the

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<v Speaker 1>drones are now the new crazy story about what goes

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<v Speaker 1>on in prisons. Right, But I don't think that really

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<v Speaker 1>is the point. You know, it's kind of like it

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<v Speaker 1>excuses the correction officers, So I think I want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the focus on them throughout this. Well, there was

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<v Speaker 1>when I was teaching at the prison, they had an

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<v Speaker 1>outbreak of was it k too that synthetically um? There

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<v Speaker 1>were guys taking it in that not in my class,

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<v Speaker 1>but then that just general gen pop um who And

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<v Speaker 1>they were having like seizures and collapsing and hallucinations and

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<v Speaker 1>were hauled out and ambulances and um. I was told

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<v Speaker 1>by the guards that oh, it's coming in in the

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<v Speaker 1>spine of books like that they get from family, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're having to tear up all the books that

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<v Speaker 1>come in, which I was like, didn't come from any

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<v Speaker 1>of my books, But then someone else told me, no, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the guards. It's not coming in in the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the families are not taking apart books and then

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<v Speaker 1>rebinding them to get k two in. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just come on. Now, it's time for me to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the other person in this story Sidney Kimmel. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Kimmel is a California based billionaire. He's the nine

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<v Speaker 1>year old who was worth about one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. You may know him. He founded Jones New York,

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<v Speaker 1>the fashion label okay Yes, So he sells that for

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<v Speaker 1>two point two billion, becomes a billionaire. Right Other than

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<v Speaker 1>the Jones New York, Sidney Kimbel also goes insides, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a name for myself in Hollywood. He decides like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with fashion, I'm gonna go make movies. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's the money man behind a string of movies such

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<v Speaker 1>as Crazy Rich Asians, Hell or High Water Moneyball, the

0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.000
<v Speaker 1>flop that Ryan Gosling made about falling in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a sex doll lars and The Real Girl. All these

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<v Speaker 1>are his movies united, right, these are all he's just yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sydney Kimbell does this for a while, then he decides,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get into philante a piece. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing these days. He's all into philanthropy. Like the Johns

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins University. They get a big endowment from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>now they have a cancer center that has his name

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<v Speaker 1>on it. And there's the going back to the early

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<v Speaker 1>winemaker of American history, Thomas Jefferson. Sidney Kimbell gave money

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<v Speaker 1>to the university to Philadelphia that carries Jefferson's name, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the medical school now has the Sydney Kimmel name.

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<v Speaker 1>So when this scam went down, Kimmel was ninety two

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<v Speaker 1>years old, so he's always been years young. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>condescend So this aging businessman turn Hollywood philanthropist. He has

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<v Speaker 1>no connection to Cofield, he has no understanding. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know he's about to be a target. Right, He's just

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<v Speaker 1>this ninety two year old guy. He's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>give money away. Now, he had never met him, had

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<v Speaker 1>no reason to cross pass, would have no idea that

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<v Speaker 1>there was some prisoner locked up in Butts County, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's got his eye on him? Right now, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just defied his imagine. A Now, for those who

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<v Speaker 1>have never had the pleasure of traveling through Butts County,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not. Maybe I have. It's south of Atlanta. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have, I have, I got, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know. On your way down to

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<v Speaker 1>way Cross, you probably come across. Let's say yes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you may be wondering, Elizabeth, Sarah, how do you rob

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<v Speaker 1>a billionaire from inside a maximum security stage from how

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<v Speaker 1>do you rob a billionaire from inside a maximum security prison?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question, thank you, thank you. Well you use one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hundreds of contraband phones that you have, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kofield was able to then use this to contact a brokerage.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are smartphones. Yeah, these are smartphones. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and then I will tell you

0:16:37.840 --> 0:17:02.359
<v Speaker 1>how he used a smartphone to get stupid on this billionaire. Nice. So, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 1>we got our dude, I'm not right, dude, but Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Cofield are. Yeah, he's a bad guy. Are bad guy

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. And then we got Sidney Kimmel, our target.

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<v Speaker 1>And mark of the story. And we're about to have

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<v Speaker 1>them meet your ready, not physically, but you'll get the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna, Okay, they're gonna butterfly this. It's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cofield is able to contact this Charles Schwab brokerage

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<v Speaker 1>using a smartphone, right, so in June, Cofield pretends to

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<v Speaker 1>be s K. Yeah, so he calls himself. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the billionaire investor Sidney Kimmel. So he calls Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Schwab up and he gets a broker on the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cofield is able to sweet talk this investment firm

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<v Speaker 1>into transferring eleven million dollars off Sydney Kimmel's money. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The federal prosecutors still can't exactly determine how it was

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<v Speaker 1>that Cofield was able to find Kimmel or his Charles Schwab.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he know he had to give his number,

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<v Speaker 1>his account number. Just wait, a nice kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they do have to make those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>transfers over the phone. It's that is yeah, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had the advantage there. Now, So Scott McAfee,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a federal prosecutor on this case, he said quote

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<v Speaker 1>Mr coo Field had figured out a way to excess

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<v Speaker 1>accounts belonging to high net worth individuals, frankly billionaires located

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. Now we see why he said billionaires plural?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that because Coo Field also managed to hit up

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole worth Time, who I don't know, but she's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the wife of Herbert worth Time, who was a Florida

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire who has uh he made his money on eyeglass innovations.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, billionaire eyeglass guy, so worth of them. Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>worth Time, she gives him two point to five million dollars. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's basically transferred out of their account. He's

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<v Speaker 1>able to steal the funds and transferred to a second account,

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<v Speaker 1>then convert him into gold coins because gold coins are

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<v Speaker 1>apparently co Field's fiscal instrument of choice. He just loves

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<v Speaker 1>the double eagle, all right, So he uses that same

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<v Speaker 1>move on Sidney Kimmel. Now, interestingly, in the worth Time case,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to press charges, so he's facing no

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<v Speaker 1>criminal charges for stealing two point to five million. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know if they want to be embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they don't want their finances like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably it could be a little one, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of both. And how much did he transfer out

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<v Speaker 1>of fourth time? Two million? Yeah, they're like it's pocket change.

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<v Speaker 1>They like it's just an embarrassment. Don't tell people such marks.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get back to our original question. How is

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<v Speaker 1>a bank robbing gang banger who's in prison able to

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<v Speaker 1>call up Charles Schwab and steal from the accounts of

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires with just a cell phone. How let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the wise and what force Elizabeth arthur Ly Cofield. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me back up just a second and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a little b about his criminal history. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of who this guy is and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine him on the phone. Alright, So, arthur Ly Cofield,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was fifteen years old, he robbed his first bank, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes in, he's not very good at it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>his first time. He walks into a branch of Choice

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<v Speaker 1>Community Bank in Douglasville, Georgia, and he robs them for

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<v Speaker 1>hole dollars. Right, So, when Cofield walks out of the

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<v Speaker 1>bank with his stolen loot, the die pack goes off.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know they put a diepack in. Diepack

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<v Speaker 1>goes Yeah, he gets stay with the inc then metaphorically

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<v Speaker 1>is now marked form this point on right now our

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<v Speaker 1>career criminals. So despite his net beginnings as a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur co Field, he gets better. He's got natural instincts.

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>He just is a criminal born right. His attitude, his ambitions,

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.440
<v Speaker 1>his makings all aligned to make him this what will

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>soon be a master criminal. Now once he's locked up

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<v Speaker 1>on the inside, co Field insides, you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>young man. I've been a bank robber. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>should go to my next move, which has started prison gang.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just not a fan of the social contract.

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<v Speaker 1>So he starts out a prison gang and he names

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<v Speaker 1>his crew y a P. Now y a P stands

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<v Speaker 1>for young and paid and yet young in prison exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's apparently this y AP was inspired by his street name,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Yeap Lavish. Yap Lavish, That's what he was

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<v Speaker 1>known on the street. So Yeap Lavish a k A.

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Cofield Jr. His street name game is weak week

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<v Speaker 1>according to me, I'll tell him to his face. You

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<v Speaker 1>tell ye lavish right to his face, Elizabeth, So yeah, Lavish.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he's in prison, he manages to have somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a normal life on the outside even though he's locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>On the inside. He's a young man. He gets himself

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend. Now. Her name was Selena Holmes. She lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. She's being yeap Lavish's girl. She's got to

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<v Speaker 1>have a lavish lifestyle, so they mostly communicate by phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's sending her money. He's arranging her life with luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say arranging, I mean girl got a Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>from him. She is in a high rise apartment in Buckhead,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like upscale of the neighborhood in Atlanta. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's living. I was going to say she's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Queen of bad decisions when you said that she

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up with this stude in jail. But now I'm like, well,

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's they've never met in person, she's never had

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to be in the same room as now. She just

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<v Speaker 1>has to do some phone calls and she gets some Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not true. There's something else you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Because yapp Lavish is a young man, so

0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he's interested in pleasures of the flesh. He has Selena

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime him in prison and She then has sex on

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<v Speaker 1>camera with some man that he arranges her. Yes, they

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>were kinky couple time in prison watching her get down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you know that he's not the only

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<v Speaker 1>one watching this, Oh, you think other guys in prisoners

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, probably charging them to watch with him. You hustler,

0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I had not even thought about that. You've got me.

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<v Speaker 1>You need better negative imagination. I'm over here thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a romantic, filthy, filthy, horrible people. We're moving on

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>from dirty Kofield and Selena Holmes is right around this time,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's got Selena doing all that she's doing for him,

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<v Speaker 1>that he decides, you know what, I need to set

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<v Speaker 1>up my life on the outside. So he decides, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go and buy myself a mansion. Now, being in

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<v Speaker 1>prison and having no money of his own, he's going

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to need to do something about that. So he's He's like,

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll get a billionaire to buy it. So what does

0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 1>yapp lavish do? Summer? And this is, as I'm pointing out,

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.639
<v Speaker 1>summer COVID is at its worst point. In the summer.

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>People don't remember everybody's inside, locked inside, acting weird, acting

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>wild and co Field is on the inside to also

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>acting weird and wild, just in a totally different angle.

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<v Speaker 1>So the people are not distracted. I'm not giving them excuses,

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<v Speaker 1>but the char shua people don't see them coming. But yet,

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>then again, billionaires act weird, so and they're they're all

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.239
<v Speaker 1>working from home, and now we're a pandemic. Yeah, they

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>were like a cat walking behind them on the bookcase

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. They're looking at their kids and don't wear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, what Yeah, of course I prove I proved

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<v Speaker 1>their transfer. So Elizabeth, what do you know about high

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<v Speaker 1>finances and what it takes to posees someone? You seem

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like you're everything. Okay, so you said you needed a

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>bagged account number. I mean I'm just assuming, like for

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 1>security's sake, Like I can't call up and be like,

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>hey about it, it's me Bill Gates. Turns out like

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to be like, okay, here's my account number.

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I would assume there's some sort of pin that you'd

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>have to give them. These are all good things, so

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll just lay it out for you. Co Field a

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 1>coordinated court documents. Co Field used a phone mask app

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 1>called text now so that disguised his location so he

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be like pinging as like, oh, an Atlanta area

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 1>code in prison, he shows up as a Los Angeles

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>area code, which is where Sydney Kimmel looked. So totally

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>works now using text now, co Field phones up Charles

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Schwab and goes, hey, I want to open a checking account.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't try to like directly just take the money.

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, take my account. Put some of my

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>money in a different account. Do you guys still hold

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>So they're less suspicious, they're not losing the money. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Co Field was told he would need to supply a

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<v Speaker 1>photo I d and proof of address. That's all he needed.

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And when I say a proof of address, like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like what they tell me at the d m V.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a utility bill? That's what they said,

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Sydney Kimmel, do you have a utility bill? So he's like, yeah,

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>so I've got a water bill, literally shows them a

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>water bill. So this is what Coo Field does. He

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>phones an outside co conspirator and this person texts him

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a photo of Sydney Kimmel's driver's license and one of

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.479
<v Speaker 1>the billionaires utility bills his water bill. Yeah. So I

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows how this person knows these things. I'm just

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>going to speculate and say that person works as his

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>house staff. That makes sense, That would make sense why

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>they choose Old Sydney exactly. That's my guest. There's nobody

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>who knows. I say, you're correct, I do know the answer.

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's it. Next ye the Cofield. Hella convincing, super charming.

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Must have amazing phone game. His phone voice must be

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>just perfect. He's like just hamming it up. The scenery

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>in the cell he's got like a cell make on,

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<v Speaker 1>like come on, keep going, stretching out, stretching out. So

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Charles Schwab, the company rep, tells him, okay, yeah, we

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>can open checking account once he gets the photo I

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>d the water bill. So then they transfer money eleven

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>million dollars into a new Charles Schwab account. Right. So

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>then he's like okay, but you know he's not done.

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>He needs to get the money. So he's like, okay,

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to cash out the account because that

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>would you know, that would send bells and whistles going, right,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, okay, I got bigger plans I need

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you to transfer for this money because I want to

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.239
<v Speaker 1>buy some gold. You know, it's a pandemic. They're like, oh,

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>billionaires buying gold? That makes sense? Fine, right, He's like, yeah,

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the greedy man's first love gold. I need

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>me some. I do need to point out that I

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>really doubt that billionaires themselves are calling brokerage firms, like

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't he have like finance? Yes, that's what I was thinking.

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>But then again, he also has his name on his

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>water bill. I wouldn't expect a billionaid have their name

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>or something whatever. So if there's a lot about this

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>that I don't understand about being a billionaire, I've never

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 1>been a billionaire. I don't want to be in a billionaire,

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>but I don't understand their lives. Yeah, I don't get it.

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Would you if I gave you a billion dollars, would

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>you immediately give it away? Pretty much? I mean I would.

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd want to live like a really nice life myself,

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of course, like sure everybody does. But I that kind

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of money that you're never going to touch. And again,

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying with like teachers and stuff, you

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can have multiple lifetimes and not spend all that money

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly to take care of myself and my family, and

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>like we could be really comfortable and have like super

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>nice stuff, and I could still give that money to

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>people who really need salary. Cap your billion. Yeah totally.

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>So you know I would be greedy and have like

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>nice stuff for myself. I'm not saying turn it over

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and then just drink thin soup for this. Yeah, but

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like you know, when they're sitting on multiple billions of dollars,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>like you said that in lifetimes, they would never ever time,

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>could not be able to spend. No, you know, I

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>say share it. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>look at money like water and it does no good

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>being locked up. Anyway, back to the story, give everybody

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a see it. Yeah, I let them with their beaks.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>So Cofield manages to get this Charles Schwab rep to

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>not only transfer the eleven million dollars, but then to

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>transfer it to the account, but then to transfer it

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to a precious metal broker in Idaho. He's like, yeah,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I want the money to go to Money Medals Exchange

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in Idaho in Boise, and he's like, okay, we'll just

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 1>down that right over And so they send the eleven

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>million dollars over and Cofield then purchases six thousand, one

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>six gold coins, the American Eagle gold coin. You're familiar

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>with American ego. So the U. S. Mint starts making

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this gold coin that is a like a few ounces. Well, here,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll just tell you this is how the U. S.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Mint was. It a special mash up between the U. S.

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Mint and sovereign citizens and stand the Smithsonian Institute. And

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you could get a plate, commemorative plate with it. Now.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>But the end I quote this is from the U. S. Mint.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>The U. S Mint produces American Eagle gold bullion coins

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in four weights, one ounce, half ounce, quarter ounts, and

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a tenth ounce. The coins are twenty two carrot gold

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>plus small amounts of alloy. The U. S. Mint does

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>not sell bullion coins directly to the public, so you

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>got to go to one of these brokers. So it

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>all seems kind of legit to everybody involved. Joshwab like, oh, yeah,

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>buying gold in the pandemic. Yeah, fine. The gold people

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, eleven million dollars here, we'll take it.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Here's your six thousand coins. Nobody questions it, right, So

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>co Field manages to get all this going. He takes

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>eleven million, turns it into gold coins. So what does

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>he do next? Well, I forgot to tell you one thing, Elizabeth,

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you were curious about the paper trails. They would need

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>it to get the gold coins transferred. To get the

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>money transferred to the gold broker, Cofield had to send

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a disbursement request, and on top of that he also

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>had to sound a letter of authorization. So he forges

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the letter of authorization and then manages this disbursement request.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he's doing all of this off

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of just a smartphone, it seems like. And once again

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go that the co conspirator is helping him

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>with giving him an example of a signature whatever it is.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, fellas get crafty behind bars in terms of

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like making stuff amazingly crew No, yeah, to all the

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff with toilet paper they can make. It's just ridiculous.

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that he's forging documents that successfully. And

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>then does someone have to go to Idaho to get

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the cold Well, yeah, we'll get to that in a

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>second jump in ahead. And I'm just constantly surprised by

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>all the paperwork this crime takes. It's practically like a

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>day job. I'm like, what did you doing this? Just

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>get a job? Like I want that anyway. So Cofield,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know he's got his outside co conspirator, most likely

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the one helps with the forgery. So you're asking, how

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>do you get the gold coins out of Idaho? How

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>did he get the gold coins out of idahos Ze

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I got an answer for you. Yeah, and I'd like

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you to close your eyes and picture. You're an Uber

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>driver working in the Atlanta area. You don't love driving

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>for a living, but you lost your job as a

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>dancing bear trainer at the Moscow Circus. So the strip

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>club you opened Slows also had its permits pulled after

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it's discovered the two of your dancers are actually animatronics

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>purchased from a Chuck E Cheese Pizza What yep? So

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>now you're having to drive an Uber to pay off

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>all of your permit problems, pay back your debts from

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the Moscow Circus. Now while you sort out all of

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>your permit problems so you can reopen slaws. You had

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to do what you had to do, so you had

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>over to pick up your next runs. Will return, Yeah,

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>one day it'll reopen. Have faith, people, so you arrive

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>outside an expensive sky rise apartment in bucket. Your passenger

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>steps out of the lobby and walks towards your prius.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>She looks statuesque, wealthy. You wonder why she called an

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>uber and not a private car, but whatever. When she

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>gets into your car, you marvel at the smell of

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>her perfume. It smells expensive. I wonder what it is. Yes,

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I do too, Okay, I have no idea. I only

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>know once from like right before Christmas when they have

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the like all the commercials. That's how I know what

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>goes on in the perfume market. White diamonds. Baby, that's right,

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. I know this does So your passenger she

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't talk too much, like at all, so you don't either.

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like thinking about what you can do. Should slass

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>out a better wing recipe? You're like trying to, you know,

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>think about Hey, look it's the grind cultures ar Rise

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and grind Elizabeth. So you drive to the airport, but

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't drive to departures and drop her off like

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you would some normal shmow like me. You drive her

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>all the way round to the side to a little

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>private section airport called Atlanta Signature airport. Yes. She instructs

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you to drive onto the tarmac and to head towards

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a private hangar. You're starting to wonder if she's famous,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and you just don't know her because you don't watch TV.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>So you're like, well, maybe maybe I don't know who

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>she is. Whatever. The private hanger you pull in and park.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Before your passenger gets out, she asked you to wait

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a minute. You're like, I got an other ride. She's like, no,

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I've extended my trip. And you looked at and you

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>see that she has. You're like, OK, just wait here. Now.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>You watch an armored van pull into the private hangar.

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Two armed men from a private security company get out.

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>They walk over to the charter plane parked in the

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>private hangar. You're like, oh, things are getting into and

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>your nose so you're loving right. You hear someone say

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that the coins have arrived from Boise, like from Boise

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know what this means. But the

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>private security then meets two other agents after they step

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>off the plane and they exchange a locked case. You're like, oh, secrets,

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and the private security then walks over to your passenger.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>She opens the case and expects the content and then nods,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and it looks then that to be transferred over to

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the other security guards. And you're so giddy watching all

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>this go down. Here is this international organized crime? What

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>if I watching? So your passenger she returns to the

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>car and says that she's ready to go now, and

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you're like, shall I ask questions? But you don't. You're like,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be professional. You nod. You check the app

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>for your next destination. She says, okay, yeah, it's a

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Randall Mill Road and you know right where that is.

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's all the way back across town in bucket and

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, so money's money, money spends, You're gonna drive.

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>So you driver back across town. Traffic sucks because it's Atlanta.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But eventually you arrive at your destination Randall Mill Road,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh dupe. You pull up the sprawling mansion.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It's sitting atop a lush, green, sloped hill surrounded by woods,

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>piney woods. This health has to be worth at least

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars to your estimation. Turns out you're wrong.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>It's worth four point four million dollars. So your passager

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>steps out of the car. Thanks, you for the ride,

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and you're about to like drive away, but you watch

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>for a moment and she walks towards a man who

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>looks to be an architect because he's holding like one

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of those blueprint holder cases exactly, And so you're like, well,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe he's a foremant. You don't know, so you just

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>drive away. Right. What you don't know is you just

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>witnessed the transfer of the profits of the one of

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the biggest robberies to ever occur in American to prison. Elizabeth,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you just saw Arthur Cofield managed to gank a billionaire

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>for eleven million dollars and get ready to buy a house, right, Yeah,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna take a little break, Elizabeth. I'm gonna

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>cool my jets, and then we're gonna come back and

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you how this all goes horribly wrong.

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Can we listen to some ads? Oh? Yeah, here, let

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>me hit play. So, since you never asked, I'll just

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Elizabeth, your passenger it was a Liah Bennett. Okay, yeah, alright,

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a Liah Bennett. She was house hunting for Arthur Cofield.

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>She is not Selina Home. She is a different co conspirator.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>She meets with the owner of the house, which, by

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the way, was not for sale. It was a new

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>home that had been constructed by an architect, the one

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you saw in co Field. For whatever reason, don't ask

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>me how he saw this house. He wan at it.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So he made an offer on a house that wasn't

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>for sale. He went higher than market value. He offers

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>four point four million, and of course, it being capitalism,

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the owner is like, I go, I gotta sell. So

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>he decides to sell. He can't turn down. He gets

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>seven dollars as a down payment in cash, and he's like,

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, give me the remainder and the house is yours.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Now you're you're you're with me. You gotta think something

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>is hanky if you're gonna get somebody to offer you

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a house, offer you money on house that's not for sale,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and then go, I'll give you cash on that. And

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>they show up their first from the three quarters of

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>million dollars and you're like here and by the way,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they showed up with literal duffel bags of cash. They

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 1>paid the owner in a duffel bags, like multiple duffel

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>bags of cash. Goes down, house gets purchased. The billionaire

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is still none the wiser. His money is now being

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>completely transferred and has now been turned into a multimillion

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>dollar home in Atlanta. Doesn't know. It's like skimming cream

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>from the Milia. This guy has no chance exactly exactly,

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but Arthur Cooke Jr. His good fortune is about to

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>turn sour, like say milk. Yeah, well, otherwise we wouldn't

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>be talking about, you know, the deal. The fun thing

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>to focus on this story, at least for me, is

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>all the people that took to pull off this scam. Yeah,

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly blown away, not just the Charles Schwab Reppy

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have to sweet talk, but the co conspirators, all the paperwork,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the metal dealers in Boise, Idaho, the security yards, you're

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you the driver. Well, it's kind of like the ultimate

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>where there's a will, there's a way, Like you're not

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>going to stop this dude because he's working from inside

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>prison and he's able to pull off. And where there's

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a billionaire, there's always going to be a bunch of

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>people who are like, I know, this is some stupid

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff I'm hearing, but I guess this is what they do.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>So it was really a great mark. I mean, if

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to like, excuse odd behavior. Tell people you're

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a billionaire, I guess. Anyway, back to its summer, the

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>world mired in a pandemic cope is moving fast. So

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is Arthur Cofield. Right now, he secured himself his mansion.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>He's about to be released from prison. It's all needs

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>to do is to just you know, make it through

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple more months. I mean, at this point, he's

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in a maximum security prison and he's got an architect

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on his payroll. He's paying that architect to make changes

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>to the home. The architect calls him Archie. The architects like, oh, yeah,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>he's Mike dude. Right. So the architect was the one

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>who originally designed and built the home. And so then

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>when he gets sold, he's like, yeah, let me can

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 1>we connect with that guy? And so then he's like, yeah,

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you built a home, here's what I want. And so

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>he's talking to Archie on the phone. The guy's name

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>is Scott West, and Scott West is like and I quote,

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing was weird. He disappeared for a couple

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of weeks and calm me and say sorry, I was

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. Blah blah blah. So he's writing off, everything

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is weird. He's like, yeah, this is how billionairess like,

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>it's weird, but I've got money in my pocket from it.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Exactly that it really offers the one excuse he needed.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>The owner of the house is this dude, Michael Zambilas.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And Zambilas he said that when Archie A k Arthur

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>k field a ka Yeap Lavish, we contacted him, you know,

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and I told you the house wasn't for sale, but

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>he just couldn't say no to all that money. He's like,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I gotta give it to him. The reason why he

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>believed that the money was legit is Yapp Lavish told

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>him that he was a music scout and that he

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>worked with emerging artists, upcoming rappers, and that he'd also

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>invested in bitcoin. Oh god, exactly, it's like a trifecta.

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So that but this is enough to be believable for

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>his MBS. He's like, oh, yeah, of course, I mean

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>this is so investing in bitcoin at that time was like, oh,

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>this person is rich and smart. It's not like, oh,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>this person is stubborn and committed to being a bitcoin holder,

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>which is what we would think now. So the rappers

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in the bitcoins cover story works well enough that nobody

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>questions co Field or his money in Duffel bags. I mean,

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it's Atlanta, after all, was heep in mind? Where

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>we are? It's not there, But there are plenty of

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>young bitcoin millionaires in Atlanta and plenty of up and

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>coming rappers to make this seem legit, is what I'm saying.

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not that you know, Yes, cash deals, though, should

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>always be a suspicion. So the whole criminal enterprise, it's light,

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it's flexible, it's moving, it's operating, it's working inside and outside.

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Everything is going great. But there's one problem because while

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>he's working on this inside and outside, his whole criminal

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>plan is it has this one aspect, which is it

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 1>is really vulnerable to sudden exposure. It's like a soup

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>lake and it's kind of fall if anybody learns anything

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. And one day Cofield's bad luck drops right

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>into his lap and he was like, oh, the day

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is June, and the prison guards decided to just do

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a surprise inspection of the whole prison right and so boom,

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>co Field is found with two cell phones. One of

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>the phones is just sitting on his desk and he's

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>got a dusk in his cell, so it's just sitting

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>out on the desk. The other one was hidden in

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>his armpits, so they had to like find it, and

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>so he's got these contraband phones. They hand him over

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to the prison forensics, those guys that don't doesn't take

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>him long examine the phones. They were like, cursory check

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>reveals this plot to buy a mansion, and so they're like,

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna need to check more on this phone. So

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>they start going diving deeper and they discover co Field's

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>whole message history, all the d M s and whatever

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>text messages he sent, all call logs, the whole bit,

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and they find all of the evidence they need to

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>keep him in prison for another fifteen years. Like, yeah,

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>he's basically caught dead to right now. Personally, I'm kind

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>of curious what caused this sudden inspection. I mean, like,

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>did he piss off the prison guards, did he cross

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the wrong person in prison? Was it a power play

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>between gangs? Because this just seems like a really weird,

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.479
<v Speaker 1>suspicious and suddenly the phone will the above. Yeah totally

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>also could just be dumb luck. I mean, I really dumb,

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>but I still think it was a CEO anyway. So

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the inmates who are smuggling in contraband, you know, usually

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>we're told like, oh, it's spines of books, like you're told,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>or like in movies it's like the bodily orifices. But

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, or you know the news story say oh

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Drone flew it in. But as I pointed out, it's

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>mostly the correctional officers. And from what I've read, this

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>is known by the prison industry. Yeah, so Adam Myers,

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>this expert dip guy, he uh, he studies things for

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a site called prison Ology, and it's it's it's a

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>firm and they made up a retired prison warden's prison

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>executives and so forth, and so they have an insider's

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>view of this. They know what is how this is

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>going down. And he said, and I quote, this is

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty widespread problem, and it really comes down to

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>guards not being paid enough because it's a big amount

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of money that's hard to turn away from when they

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>smuggle the phones in. So, you know, just like John Lennon,

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Cofield needed a little help from his friends, and the

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>prison guards were only too happy to offer it right.

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's my thought. I once, I don't know.

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not necessarily saying it was guaranteed. But how else

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>is he going to get this phone and contact with

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Charles Schwab. No, Elizabeth, I know you, so, I know

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you're probably wondering, You're a little worried. What about Sidney Kimmel?

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Did anything? Did he find out? Did he know he

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>got robbed? Did he lose get his money back? You

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>don't care, well the money, the money was returned to him.

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>He got his eleven million dollars back. Because Charles Schwab,

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>when they found out what they had done, they needed

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that none of their other investors would

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>hear about this, and and hear about it in some

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>glaring negative time hearing about it. Yeah, Jos Schwab was

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in a quote. Schwab was aware of suspected of fraudulent activity.

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>We launched an investigation, initiated measures to protect the client's account,

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and notified the authorities. As you can appreciate, this is

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>an ongoing investigation and as such we cannot comment further.

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>They took the approach were handling this. Don't you worry?

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.879
<v Speaker 1>So now to ensure all their other investors. They say

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 1>all this, but people still can't figure out. I can't

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>figure out. The Feds can't figure out how did Kochfield

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>find all the information that he needed to access this

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>billionaire's account? And you know that's the great mystery that

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I have no answers for you. But we found our answer.

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>We think it's the CEO is how they got the

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the co conspirator. Yeah, but once again, I'm just speculating

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:40.919
<v Speaker 1>that they're in the house staff. If they're not, who

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is that anyway? You know how some kids are murder

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>with a computer. This dude was like straight up doing

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, gang land activities with a flip

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.240
<v Speaker 1>phone in prison. And that's just so impressive to me. Anyway,

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 1>his Blackhead dream home, it's still sitting there, empty, unsold. Yeah,

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's quickly depreciating in value. It's right now it's no

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>longer worth four point four million of the original asking

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>price that he paid. It's not worth about three point

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>five And people are suing to try to like manage

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it because the house will quickly turn into a wasted Yeah.

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>So one last thing about contraband phones, Elizabeth. Now, as

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>we've gone over prison guards are probably responsible for most

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>of them, right, And this also allows prisons to have

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a reason to roust prisoners and to search their cells.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And it also allows them to kind of give like

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a little uh black market pay to their prison guards

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>so they don't have to do pay increases. But I

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want it to sound like these contraband phones are

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>all negative. I was just going to say that I

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's important that we make a distinction that some

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>contraband phones are used for crimes and some are used

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>look like, well the journalists carry blanket. I'm not sure

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>if you know. Okay, great writer Great Journalists has written

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot about this, and she makes the point that

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>smuggled in phones are also how whistleblowers are able to

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 1>report on the prison document excesses of the bad behavior

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>inside the detention facilities. Also, some inmates have been known

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to self published books. They've been known to take college

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>classes on smuggled phones. They also contact prison reform advocates

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>their family members when they're having a crisis. It's it's

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>really often a lifeline. It's a form of communication, of

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a connection education. It's so much more than just when

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>there are poor conditions and the outside world doesn't know

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about it, um, And we've seen that multiple times. And

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>then you know, you look at the fact that the

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>absolute robbery of how much they charge for phone calls.

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>California's best really can't charge him exactly, and it should

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<v Speaker 1>be blanket nationwide because you know, I don't understand, well

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<v Speaker 1>I do understand, but I just it's disgusting to me

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<v Speaker 1>how much they skewer these guys. They're doing their time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that you know, they're paying things back

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<v Speaker 1>in a multitude of ways, and part of prisons rehabilitation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like there's the whole I think it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the dehumanization that is that is in our prison you

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<v Speaker 1>know industrial complex that you know, you reduce these guy

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<v Speaker 1>is they don't have a name, they're a number, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you take it away where you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the like satisfaction of being able to talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>family without some pain inflicted monetarily. Um. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people. We need to talk to our family.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you're saying, if you want to rehabilitate someone

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to let them have a support and

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<v Speaker 1>reconnect to the world outside. This should be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the plan I think it's just important, an important point

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<v Speaker 1>to make, which is that smuggled cell phones save lives.

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<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what I want. Arthur Cofield, he's one example,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not a good example of all that you

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<v Speaker 1>would find in prison. So cadger band phones keep rolling. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just never one side to the story exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for every for every uh that what's his name again,

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur yapp Lavish yapp Lavish. You know there's someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>actually like just trying to be a human being surviving,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to be able to consider them and

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<v Speaker 1>not just be hung up on oh drone smuggling phones

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<v Speaker 1>in so yeap Lavish can order that his hits and

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires anyway, what's a ridiculous take. I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no heroes, no anti heroes. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of well I mean, like, I guess the billionaire

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<v Speaker 1>isn't so bad. I mean he's just sitting on too

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<v Speaker 1>much money, but like you know, he didn't do anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like man, these you know, I always I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably the most criminal friendly podcasts. We're definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>like copagandas UM and I like to kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>the humanity and people and give people the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt. And we've said it before that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the people that we talk about are just

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<v Speaker 1>like they've made a series of bad decisions. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't talk about murder, we're talking about mostly

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<v Speaker 1>financial crimes or other kind of ridiculous things. Um, you

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<v Speaker 1>can find you can find a little redeeming quality for

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<v Speaker 1>most of these people. Um, except for like the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who are really cruel about it. The woman who scammed

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<v Speaker 1>the town out of all the what was Rita saw?

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<v Speaker 1>She was terrible. This guy is terrible. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting when we stumble across the people that's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to to you know, find it a sweet spot, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>or anyone to root for. Yeah, but I'm also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my ridiculous takeaway. Once again, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>asking Elizabeth welcome is the worth time family being able

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<v Speaker 1>to write off two and a quarter million dollars like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a learning experience whatever to anyway, thank you

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