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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Yo,

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton, Zarain Burnett. What is up girl? Oh? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Just you know? Do you gotta second? I got a

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Speaker 1: quick question? Go ahead. Do you know what's ridiculous? We do?

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Speaker 1: I do? Share it with a brother. Now. You know.

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Speaker 1: Normally I'm all about the food mashups. Not today, thank god?

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Speaker 1: Today is it my birthday? No? Today I'm doing clothing mashups. Hey, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you know that I love the Adidas. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I do know. I own far too many pairs of

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Speaker 1: the Adidas um soda you dream about shoes? I do. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is disappointing for me. Well because I usually like

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Speaker 1: pretty much anything Adidas puts out. But then they kind

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Speaker 1: of missed the mark on something worse than some of

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Speaker 1: the Jeremy Scott stuff. Yeah. Damn. Um. They have a

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Speaker 1: crossover with the Simpsons, and you'd think that it would

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Speaker 1: be all Bart Simpson like radical dude, cowabunga man, eat

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Speaker 1: my shorts. No, it's um Adidas and the Simpsons shoes

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Speaker 1: for International left handers Day. It's um ned Flanders Adidas

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Speaker 1: and let me give you the sea let me descriptions,

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Speaker 1: uh left handers rule exclamation point. These mccarton shoes pay

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Speaker 1: homage to a classic and timeless Adida's trainer and honor

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Speaker 1: our favorite left hander in Springfield, Ned Flanders. The packaging

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Speaker 1: and poster called back to the Left Orium. They're made

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Speaker 1: from smooth leather with a rubber outsol. They're ugliest, sin

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Speaker 1: like no, and like they all you know, I'm intentionally

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Speaker 1: supposed to be like bad, like you're supposed to look

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Speaker 1: like ned Flanders shoes and they do so. But you

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Speaker 1: know how like they always show they have the pictures

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Speaker 1: right on the website and it's only showing the right shoe,

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Speaker 1: right right. It's supposed to be for left hand, left foots,

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Speaker 1: multiple foots. Oh boy, this is melting my brain. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I find this ridiculous and I concur okay, ridiculous. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you got a second, I got one for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's better. No, no, no, this one is

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Speaker 1: is is strange, it's ridiculous, and it's criminal. I know,

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Speaker 1: I think you would like it. Once upon a time,

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Speaker 1: a Georgia inmate in state custody, he smuggled in a

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Speaker 1: contraband phone, which people do, and he gets it into

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Speaker 1: prison and he uses this phone to impersonate a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: But that's not all, Elizabeth. He also purchased six thousand

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Speaker 1: gold coins that were worth about eleven million dollars and

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Speaker 1: he did this with the billionaire's investment account. That's not all, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: I am not done yet. Next, he bottoms off a

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Speaker 1: multimillion dollar house with a billionaire's money on this phone.

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Speaker 1: He's still in prison. Wow, this is ridiculous. Crime of

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Speaker 1: a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons.

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Speaker 1: It's all murder free and ridiculous, Elizabeth, this story I'm

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Speaker 1: about to tell you. To be clear, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: you to know this from the get There are no

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Speaker 1: heroes in this story. There aren't even anti heroes in

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Speaker 1: this story. Yeah. For the record, I do not like

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Speaker 1: this inmate. He's not one of my dudes. Also, I'm

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Speaker 1: not rooting for the billionaire in this story. Surprised but

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Speaker 1: I know. But I promise you this is one hell

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Speaker 1: of a story. So buckle up, Buttercup. Before we dig

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Speaker 1: into this first story, though, I kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: whet your appetite. I had an appetizer at a moose bush.

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Speaker 1: As you like to call them. Yes, so the headline

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Speaker 1: read a starter billionaire spends thirty five million to investigate

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollar wine fraud. Wine fraud. Yes, spends

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Speaker 1: thirty five million to investigate four hundred dollar loss. Essentially. Now, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: you may be thinking, Sarah, I'm not the best at math,

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Speaker 1: but that sounds like a waste of money. It does.

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Speaker 1: You are right, Elizabeth, that is a percent of waste

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Speaker 1: of money. But all depends on what you're buying, and

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Speaker 1: in this case, he was buying I think peace of mind.

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Speaker 1: Wait a second, which one is? What's who is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So the billionaire in question, I'm glad you asked, is

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Speaker 1: a member of the Coke family. Yes, I've seen this documentary. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Bill Coke Sary's brother of Charles and David Coke. So

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Speaker 1: so now this guy, he's not the failed son, the

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Speaker 1: one who makes those ugly shirts. That guy is Wyatt Coke.

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Speaker 1: He's the founder of Wyatt Ingraham, which is the shirt company. Um.

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Speaker 1: One story I found said is a fashion line. That

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Speaker 1: So not that Coke brother, Paper Coke, which one's a

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Speaker 1: Coke brother, the Bill Coke, he he owns these bottles

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Speaker 1: that once belonged to Thomas Jefferson. If you've seen the documentary,

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Speaker 1: Come to find out they are not Thomas Jefferson wine,

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Speaker 1: So Bill Coke he gets all piste right, and he's

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Speaker 1: like discovers his figure. He's like what what this is outrageous? Right,

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Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm an idiot. I'm going to spend

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Speaker 1: he hires a private investigator to check out the provenance

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Speaker 1: of all of his wine collection. Right, So he discovers

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Speaker 1: he's been do numerous times. A billionaire gets embarrassed. He

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Speaker 1: all every single bottle he owns his entire collection, So

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Speaker 1: He had four hundred, four hundred fake bottles of wine.

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Speaker 1: this quote, maybe you know, bring some bells for you,

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Speaker 1: Bill Coke said, and I quote there is a code

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Speaker 1: of silence in this business because obviously the faker doesn't

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Speaker 1: want anybody to know that he's making fake wine. The

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Speaker 1: other wine collectors, like look at my Thomas Jefferson bottles.

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Speaker 1: They will never get open. Right. So this cat he decides,

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Speaker 1: guy who sold him the bottles of Thomas Jefferson fake wine,

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Speaker 1: right that guy loves in Germany. Bill Coke sues him.

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Speaker 1: going to see that money. Yeah, that's just not happening.

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Speaker 1: So he's like, Nope, it doesn't matter. I'm rich already.

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Speaker 1: the same con man in Los Angeles. And this is

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Speaker 1: the guy who would take literally Fronsia common just wine

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Speaker 1: this wine labeled conment. He gets tried, convicted, and sentence

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Speaker 1: So Bill Coke once again gets his some more justice.

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Speaker 1: But he's not done, Elizabeth. Bill Coke is on it.

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Speaker 1: He gets on his batman cow and he goes to

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Speaker 1: sorry about selling you the fig timas Jefferson Wine. He's

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Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, he's spent four thousand. He's out there,

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Speaker 1: no million out Some people have too much money, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Take the L dude, right, is a cheaper L. But

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Speaker 1: this multi year wine investigation. This is the kind of

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Speaker 1: behavior you can expect from billionaires. So I want you

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Speaker 1: to keep that in mind as I tell you this story.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of, like, we got teachers working second

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Speaker 1: fake totally throws the further class materials out of their

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Speaker 1: to make me happy. Anyway, enough of Bill Coke. You

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Speaker 1: from inside an American prison? Yes? Please, Elizabeth. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to like bust you out on this, but you

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Speaker 1: once taught in a prison. I did at a federal facility. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just said that was it was materials for the class.

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Speaker 1: it wasn't anything incendiary. It was just interesting books that

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Speaker 1: that counts. That counts, I'll give you. And I used

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Speaker 1: to also bring them like highlighters, which I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: probably wound up using as like crack pipes, who knows,

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Speaker 1: And so when you know that he's not the only

420
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: one watching this, Oh, you think other guys in prisoners

421
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: sitting there, probably charging them to watch with him. You hustler,

422
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: I had not even thought about that. You've got me.

423
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: You need better negative imagination. I'm over here thinking that

424
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: he's a romantic, filthy, filthy, horrible people. We're moving on

425
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: from dirty Kofield and Selena Holmes is right around this time,

426
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: when he's got Selena doing all that she's doing for him,

427
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: that he decides, you know what, I need to set

428
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: up my life on the outside. So he decides, I'm

429
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: gonna go and buy myself a mansion. Now, being in

430
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: prison and having no money of his own, he's going

431
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: to need to do something about that. So he's He's like,

432
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: I'll get a billionaire to buy it. So what does

433
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: yapp lavish do? Summer? And this is, as I'm pointing out,

434
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: summer COVID is at its worst point. In the summer.

435
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: People don't remember everybody's inside, locked inside, acting weird, acting

436
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: wild and co Field is on the inside to also

437
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: acting weird and wild, just in a totally different angle.

438
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: So the people are not distracted. I'm not giving them excuses,

439
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: but the char shua people don't see them coming. But yet,

440
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: then again, billionaires act weird, so and they're they're all

441
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 1: working from home, and now we're a pandemic. Yeah, they

442
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: were like a cat walking behind them on the bookcase

443
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. They're looking at their kids and don't wear that.

444
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, what Yeah, of course I prove I proved

445
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: their transfer. So Elizabeth, what do you know about high

446
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: finances and what it takes to posees someone? You seem

447
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: like you're everything. Okay, so you said you needed a

448
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: bagged account number. I mean I'm just assuming, like for

449
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: security's sake, Like I can't call up and be like,

450
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: hey about it, it's me Bill Gates. Turns out like

451
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: I'd have to be like, okay, here's my account number.

452
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: I would assume there's some sort of pin that you'd

453
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: have to give them. These are all good things, so

454
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: I'll just lay it out for you. Co Field a

455
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: coordinated court documents. Co Field used a phone mask app

456
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: called text now so that disguised his location so he

457
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like pinging as like, oh, an Atlanta area

458
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: code in prison, he shows up as a Los Angeles

459
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: area code, which is where Sydney Kimmel looked. So totally

460
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: works now using text now, co Field phones up Charles

461
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: Schwab and goes, hey, I want to open a checking account.

462
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: So he doesn't try to like directly just take the money.

463
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, take my account. Put some of my

464
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: money in a different account. Do you guys still hold

465
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: So they're less suspicious, they're not losing the money. Now.

466
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: Co Field was told he would need to supply a

467
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: photo I d and proof of address. That's all he needed.

468
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: And when I say a proof of address, like, it's

469
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: like what they tell me at the d m V.

470
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: Do you have a utility bill? That's what they said,

471
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: Sydney Kimmel, do you have a utility bill? So he's like, yeah,

472
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: so I've got a water bill, literally shows them a

473
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: water bill. So this is what Coo Field does. He

474
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: phones an outside co conspirator and this person texts him

475
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: a photo of Sydney Kimmel's driver's license and one of

476
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: the billionaires utility bills his water bill. Yeah. So I

477
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: nobody knows how this person knows these things. I'm just

478
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: going to speculate and say that person works as his

479
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: house staff. That makes sense, That would make sense why

480
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: they choose Old Sydney exactly. That's my guest. There's nobody

481
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: who knows. I say, you're correct, I do know the answer.

482
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: And that's it. Next ye the Cofield. Hella convincing, super charming.

483
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: Must have amazing phone game. His phone voice must be

484
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: just perfect. He's like just hamming it up. The scenery

485
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: in the cell he's got like a cell make on,

486
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: like come on, keep going, stretching out, stretching out. So

487
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Charles Schwab, the company rep, tells him, okay, yeah, we

488
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: can open checking account once he gets the photo I

489
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: d the water bill. So then they transfer money eleven

490
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: million dollars into a new Charles Schwab account. Right. So

491
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: then he's like okay, but you know he's not done.

492
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: He needs to get the money. So he's like, okay,

493
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm not going to cash out the account because that

494
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: would you know, that would send bells and whistles going, right,

495
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: So he's like, okay, I got bigger plans I need

496
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: you to transfer for this money because I want to

497
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 1: buy some gold. You know, it's a pandemic. They're like, oh,

498
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: billionaires buying gold? That makes sense? Fine, right, He's like, yeah,

499
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: you know, the greedy man's first love gold. I need

500
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: me some. I do need to point out that I

501
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: really doubt that billionaires themselves are calling brokerage firms, like

502
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't he have like finance? Yes, that's what I was thinking.

503
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: But then again, he also has his name on his

504
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: water bill. I wouldn't expect a billionaid have their name

505
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: or something whatever. So if there's a lot about this

506
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: that I don't understand about being a billionaire, I've never

507
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: been a billionaire. I don't want to be in a billionaire,

508
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: but I don't understand their lives. Yeah, I don't get it.

509
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Would you if I gave you a billion dollars, would

510
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: you immediately give it away? Pretty much? I mean I would.

511
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: I'd want to live like a really nice life myself,

512
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: of course, like sure everybody does. But I that kind

513
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: of money that you're never going to touch. And again,

514
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: like I was saying with like teachers and stuff, you

515
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: can have multiple lifetimes and not spend all that money

516
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: exactly to take care of myself and my family, and

517
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: like we could be really comfortable and have like super

518
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: nice stuff, and I could still give that money to

519
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: people who really need salary. Cap your billion. Yeah totally.

520
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: So you know I would be greedy and have like

521
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: nice stuff for myself. I'm not saying turn it over

522
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: and then just drink thin soup for this. Yeah, but

523
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: like you know, when they're sitting on multiple billions of dollars,

524
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: like you said that in lifetimes, they would never ever time,

525
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: could not be able to spend. No, you know, I

526
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: say share it. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I

527
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: look at money like water and it does no good

528
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: being locked up. Anyway, back to the story, give everybody

529
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: a see it. Yeah, I let them with their beaks.

530
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: So Cofield manages to get this Charles Schwab rep to

531
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: not only transfer the eleven million dollars, but then to

532
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: transfer it to the account, but then to transfer it

533
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: to a precious metal broker in Idaho. He's like, yeah,

534
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I want the money to go to Money Medals Exchange

535
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: in Idaho in Boise, and he's like, okay, we'll just

536
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: down that right over And so they send the eleven

537
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: million dollars over and Cofield then purchases six thousand, one

538
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: six gold coins, the American Eagle gold coin. You're familiar

539
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: with American ego. So the U. S. Mint starts making

540
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: this gold coin that is a like a few ounces. Well, here,

541
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this is how the U. S.

542
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: Mint was. It a special mash up between the U. S.

543
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: Mint and sovereign citizens and stand the Smithsonian Institute. And

544
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: you could get a plate, commemorative plate with it. Now.

545
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: But the end I quote this is from the U. S. Mint.

546
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: The U. S Mint produces American Eagle gold bullion coins

547
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: in four weights, one ounce, half ounce, quarter ounts, and

548
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a tenth ounce. The coins are twenty two carrot gold

549
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: plus small amounts of alloy. The U. S. Mint does

550
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: not sell bullion coins directly to the public, so you

551
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: got to go to one of these brokers. So it

552
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: all seems kind of legit to everybody involved. Joshwab like, oh, yeah,

553
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: buying gold in the pandemic. Yeah, fine. The gold people

554
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, eleven million dollars here, we'll take it.

555
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Here's your six thousand coins. Nobody questions it, right, So

556
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: co Field manages to get all this going. He takes

557
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: eleven million, turns it into gold coins. So what does

558
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: he do next? Well, I forgot to tell you one thing, Elizabeth,

559
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: you were curious about the paper trails. They would need

560
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: it to get the gold coins transferred. To get the

561
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: money transferred to the gold broker, Cofield had to send

562
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: a disbursement request, and on top of that he also

563
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: had to sound a letter of authorization. So he forges

564
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: the letter of authorization and then manages this disbursement request.

565
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's doing all of this off

566
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: of just a smartphone, it seems like. And once again

567
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go that the co conspirator is helping him

568
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: with giving him an example of a signature whatever it is.

569
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: I mean, fellas get crafty behind bars in terms of

570
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: like making stuff amazingly crew No, yeah, to all the

571
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: stuff with toilet paper they can make. It's just ridiculous.

572
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he's forging documents that successfully. And

573
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: then does someone have to go to Idaho to get

574
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the cold Well, yeah, we'll get to that in a

575
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: second jump in ahead. And I'm just constantly surprised by

576
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: all the paperwork this crime takes. It's practically like a

577
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: day job. I'm like, what did you doing this? Just

578
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: get a job? Like I want that anyway. So Cofield,

579
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: you know he's got his outside co conspirator, most likely

580
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: the one helps with the forgery. So you're asking, how

581
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: do you get the gold coins out of Idaho? How

582
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: did he get the gold coins out of idahos Ze

583
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I got an answer for you. Yeah, and I'd like

584
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: you to close your eyes and picture. You're an Uber

585
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: driver working in the Atlanta area. You don't love driving

586
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: for a living, but you lost your job as a

587
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: dancing bear trainer at the Moscow Circus. So the strip

588
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: club you opened Slows also had its permits pulled after

589
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: it's discovered the two of your dancers are actually animatronics

590
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: purchased from a Chuck E Cheese Pizza What yep? So

591
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: now you're having to drive an Uber to pay off

592
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: all of your permit problems, pay back your debts from

593
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: the Moscow Circus. Now while you sort out all of

594
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: your permit problems so you can reopen slaws. You had

595
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: to do what you had to do, so you had

596
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: over to pick up your next runs. Will return, Yeah,

597
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: one day it'll reopen. Have faith, people, so you arrive

598
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: outside an expensive sky rise apartment in bucket. Your passenger

599
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: steps out of the lobby and walks towards your prius.

600
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: She looks statuesque, wealthy. You wonder why she called an

601
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: uber and not a private car, but whatever. When she

602
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: gets into your car, you marvel at the smell of

603
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: her perfume. It smells expensive. I wonder what it is. Yes,

604
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: I do too, Okay, I have no idea. I only

605
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: know once from like right before Christmas when they have

606
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: the like all the commercials. That's how I know what

607
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: goes on in the perfume market. White diamonds. Baby, that's right,

608
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: you know. I know this does So your passenger she

609
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: doesn't talk too much, like at all, so you don't either.

610
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: You're like thinking about what you can do. Should slass

611
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: out a better wing recipe? You're like trying to, you know,

612
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: think about Hey, look it's the grind cultures ar Rise

613
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: and grind Elizabeth. So you drive to the airport, but

614
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: you don't drive to departures and drop her off like

615
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: you would some normal shmow like me. You drive her

616
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: all the way round to the side to a little

617
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: private section airport called Atlanta Signature airport. Yes. She instructs

618
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: you to drive onto the tarmac and to head towards

619
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: a private hangar. You're starting to wonder if she's famous,

620
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: and you just don't know her because you don't watch TV.

621
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: So you're like, well, maybe maybe I don't know who

622
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: she is. Whatever. The private hanger you pull in and park.

623
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Before your passenger gets out, she asked you to wait

624
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: a minute. You're like, I got an other ride. She's like, no,

625
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I've extended my trip. And you looked at and you

626
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: see that she has. You're like, OK, just wait here. Now.

627
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: You watch an armored van pull into the private hangar.

628
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Two armed men from a private security company get out.

629
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: They walk over to the charter plane parked in the

630
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: private hangar. You're like, oh, things are getting into and

631
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: your nose so you're loving right. You hear someone say

632
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: that the coins have arrived from Boise, like from Boise

633
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: and I don't even know what this means. But the

634
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: private security then meets two other agents after they step

635
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: off the plane and they exchange a locked case. You're like, oh, secrets,

636
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: and the private security then walks over to your passenger.

637
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: She opens the case and expects the content and then nods,

638
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: and it looks then that to be transferred over to

639
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: the other security guards. And you're so giddy watching all

640
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: this go down. Here is this international organized crime? What

641
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: if I watching? So your passenger she returns to the

642
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: car and says that she's ready to go now, and

643
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: you're like, shall I ask questions? But you don't. You're like,

644
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be professional. You nod. You check the app

645
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: for your next destination. She says, okay, yeah, it's a

646
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Randall Mill Road and you know right where that is.

647
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: It's all the way back across town in bucket and

648
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, so money's money, money spends, You're gonna drive.

649
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: So you driver back across town. Traffic sucks because it's Atlanta.

650
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: But eventually you arrive at your destination Randall Mill Road,

651
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh dupe. You pull up the sprawling mansion.

652
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: It's sitting atop a lush, green, sloped hill surrounded by woods,

653
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: piney woods. This health has to be worth at least

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: a million dollars to your estimation. Turns out you're wrong.

655
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: It's worth four point four million dollars. So your passager

656
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: steps out of the car. Thanks, you for the ride,

657
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: and you're about to like drive away, but you watch

658
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: for a moment and she walks towards a man who

659
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: looks to be an architect because he's holding like one

660
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: of those blueprint holder cases exactly, And so you're like, well,

661
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: maybe he's a foremant. You don't know, so you just

662
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: drive away. Right. What you don't know is you just

663
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: witnessed the transfer of the profits of the one of

664
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: the biggest robberies to ever occur in American to prison. Elizabeth,

665
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: you just saw Arthur Cofield managed to gank a billionaire

666
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: for eleven million dollars and get ready to buy a house, right, Yeah,

667
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take a little break, Elizabeth. I'm gonna

668
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: cool my jets, and then we're gonna come back and

669
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how this all goes horribly wrong.

670
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: Can we listen to some ads? Oh? Yeah, here, let

671
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: me hit play. So, since you never asked, I'll just

672
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: tell you, Elizabeth, your passenger it was a Liah Bennett. Okay, yeah, alright,

673
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: a Liah Bennett. She was house hunting for Arthur Cofield.

674
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: She is not Selina Home. She is a different co conspirator.

675
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: She meets with the owner of the house, which, by

676
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: the way, was not for sale. It was a new

677
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: home that had been constructed by an architect, the one

678
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: you saw in co Field. For whatever reason, don't ask

679
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: me how he saw this house. He wan at it.

680
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: So he made an offer on a house that wasn't

681
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: for sale. He went higher than market value. He offers

682
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: four point four million, and of course, it being capitalism,

683
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: the owner is like, I go, I gotta sell. So

684
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: he decides to sell. He can't turn down. He gets

685
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: seven dollars as a down payment in cash, and he's like,

686
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: all right, give me the remainder and the house is yours.

687
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: Now you're you're you're with me. You gotta think something

688
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: is hanky if you're gonna get somebody to offer you

689
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: a house, offer you money on house that's not for sale,

690
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: and then go, I'll give you cash on that. And

691
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: they show up their first from the three quarters of

692
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: million dollars and you're like here and by the way,

693
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: they showed up with literal duffel bags of cash. They

694
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: paid the owner in a duffel bags, like multiple duffel

695
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: bags of cash. Goes down, house gets purchased. The billionaire

696
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: is still none the wiser. His money is now being

697
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: completely transferred and has now been turned into a multimillion

698
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: dollar home in Atlanta. Doesn't know. It's like skimming cream

699
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: from the Milia. This guy has no chance exactly exactly,

700
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: but Arthur Cooke Jr. His good fortune is about to

701
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: turn sour, like say milk. Yeah, well, otherwise we wouldn't

702
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: be talking about, you know, the deal. The fun thing

703
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: to focus on this story, at least for me, is

704
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: all the people that took to pull off this scam. Yeah,

705
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm constantly blown away, not just the Charles Schwab Reppy

706
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: have to sweet talk, but the co conspirators, all the paperwork,

707
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: the metal dealers in Boise, Idaho, the security yards, you're

708
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: you the driver. Well, it's kind of like the ultimate

709
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: where there's a will, there's a way, Like you're not

710
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: going to stop this dude because he's working from inside

711
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: prison and he's able to pull off. And where there's

712
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: a billionaire, there's always going to be a bunch of

713
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: people who are like, I know, this is some stupid

714
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: stuff I'm hearing, but I guess this is what they do.

715
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: So it was really a great mark. I mean, if

716
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: you want to like, excuse odd behavior. Tell people you're

717
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: a billionaire, I guess. Anyway, back to its summer, the

718
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: world mired in a pandemic cope is moving fast. So

719
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: is Arthur Cofield. Right now, he secured himself his mansion.

720
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: He's about to be released from prison. It's all needs

721
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: to do is to just you know, make it through

722
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: a couple more months. I mean, at this point, he's

723
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: in a maximum security prison and he's got an architect

724
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: on his payroll. He's paying that architect to make changes

725
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: to the home. The architect calls him Archie. The architects like, oh, yeah,

726
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: he's Mike dude. Right. So the architect was the one

727
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: who originally designed and built the home. And so then

728
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: when he gets sold, he's like, yeah, let me can

729
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: we connect with that guy? And so then he's like, yeah,

730
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: you built a home, here's what I want. And so

731
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: he's talking to Archie on the phone. The guy's name

732
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: is Scott West, and Scott West is like and I quote,

733
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing was weird. He disappeared for a couple

734
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: of weeks and calm me and say sorry, I was

735
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: in Mexico. Blah blah blah. So he's writing off, everything

736
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: is weird. He's like, yeah, this is how billionairess like,

737
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: it's weird, but I've got money in my pocket from it.

738
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Exactly that it really offers the one excuse he needed.

739
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: The owner of the house is this dude, Michael Zambilas.

740
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: And Zambilas he said that when Archie A k Arthur

741
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: k field a ka Yeap Lavish, we contacted him, you know,

742
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: and I told you the house wasn't for sale, but

743
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: he just couldn't say no to all that money. He's like,

744
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to him. The reason why he

745
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: believed that the money was legit is Yapp Lavish told

746
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: him that he was a music scout and that he

747
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: worked with emerging artists, upcoming rappers, and that he'd also

748
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: invested in bitcoin. Oh god, exactly, it's like a trifecta.

749
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: So that but this is enough to be believable for

750
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: his MBS. He's like, oh, yeah, of course, I mean

751
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: this is so investing in bitcoin at that time was like, oh,

752
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: this person is rich and smart. It's not like, oh,

753
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: this person is stubborn and committed to being a bitcoin holder,

754
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: which is what we would think now. So the rappers

755
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: in the bitcoins cover story works well enough that nobody

756
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: questions co Field or his money in Duffel bags. I mean,

757
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: it's it's Atlanta, after all, was heep in mind? Where

758
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: we are? It's not there, But there are plenty of

759
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: young bitcoin millionaires in Atlanta and plenty of up and

760
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: coming rappers to make this seem legit, is what I'm saying.

761
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: It's not that you know, Yes, cash deals, though, should

762
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: always be a suspicion. So the whole criminal enterprise, it's light,

763
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: it's flexible, it's moving, it's operating, it's working inside and outside.

764
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Everything is going great. But there's one problem because while

765
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: he's working on this inside and outside, his whole criminal

766
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: plan is it has this one aspect, which is it

767
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: is really vulnerable to sudden exposure. It's like a soup

768
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: lake and it's kind of fall if anybody learns anything

769
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: about it. And one day Cofield's bad luck drops right

770
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: into his lap and he was like, oh, the day

771
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: is June, and the prison guards decided to just do

772
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: a surprise inspection of the whole prison right and so boom,

773
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: co Field is found with two cell phones. One of

774
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: the phones is just sitting on his desk and he's

775
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: got a dusk in his cell, so it's just sitting

776
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: out on the desk. The other one was hidden in

777
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: his armpits, so they had to like find it, and

778
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: so he's got these contraband phones. They hand him over

779
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: to the prison forensics, those guys that don't doesn't take

780
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: him long examine the phones. They were like, cursory check

781
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: reveals this plot to buy a mansion, and so they're like,

782
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to check more on this phone. So

783
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: they start going diving deeper and they discover co Field's

784
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: whole message history, all the d M s and whatever

785
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: text messages he sent, all call logs, the whole bit,

786
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: and they find all of the evidence they need to

787
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: keep him in prison for another fifteen years. Like, yeah,

788
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: he's basically caught dead to right now. Personally, I'm kind

789
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: of curious what caused this sudden inspection. I mean, like,

790
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: did he piss off the prison guards, did he cross

791
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: the wrong person in prison? Was it a power play

792
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: between gangs? Because this just seems like a really weird,

793
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: suspicious and suddenly the phone will the above. Yeah totally

794
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: also could just be dumb luck. I mean, I really dumb,

795
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: but I still think it was a CEO anyway. So

796
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: the inmates who are smuggling in contraband, you know, usually

797
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: we're told like, oh, it's spines of books, like you're told,

798
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: or like in movies it's like the bodily orifices. But

799
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, or you know the news story say oh

800
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Drone flew it in. But as I pointed out, it's

801
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: mostly the correctional officers. And from what I've read, this

802
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: is known by the prison industry. Yeah, so Adam Myers,

803
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: this expert dip guy, he uh, he studies things for

804
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: a site called prison Ology, and it's it's it's a

805
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: firm and they made up a retired prison warden's prison

806
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: executives and so forth, and so they have an insider's

807
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: view of this. They know what is how this is

808
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: going down. And he said, and I quote, this is

809
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: a pretty widespread problem, and it really comes down to

810
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: guards not being paid enough because it's a big amount

811
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: of money that's hard to turn away from when they

812
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: smuggle the phones in. So, you know, just like John Lennon,

813
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Cofield needed a little help from his friends, and the

814
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: prison guards were only too happy to offer it right.

815
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's my thought. I once, I don't know.

816
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying it was guaranteed. But how else

817
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: is he going to get this phone and contact with

818
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: Charles Schwab. No, Elizabeth, I know you, so, I know

819
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: you're probably wondering, You're a little worried. What about Sidney Kimmel?

820
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: Did anything? Did he find out? Did he know he

821
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: got robbed? Did he lose get his money back? You

822
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: don't care, well the money, the money was returned to him.

823
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: He got his eleven million dollars back. Because Charles Schwab,

824
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: when they found out what they had done, they needed

825
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: to make sure that none of their other investors would

826
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: hear about this, and and hear about it in some

827
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: glaring negative time hearing about it. Yeah, Jos Schwab was

828
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: in a quote. Schwab was aware of suspected of fraudulent activity.

829
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: We launched an investigation, initiated measures to protect the client's account,

830
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: and notified the authorities. As you can appreciate, this is

831
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation and as such we cannot comment further.

832
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: They took the approach were handling this. Don't you worry?

833
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: So now to ensure all their other investors. They say

834
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: all this, but people still can't figure out. I can't

835
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: figure out. The Feds can't figure out how did Kochfield

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Speaker 1: find all the information that he needed to access this

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Speaker 1: billionaire's account? And you know that's the great mystery that

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Speaker 1: I have no answers for you. But we found our answer.

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Speaker 1: We think it's the CEO is how they got the

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Speaker 1: the co conspirator. Yeah, but once again, I'm just speculating

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Speaker 1: that they're in the house staff. If they're not, who

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Speaker 1: is that anyway? You know how some kids are murder

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Speaker 1: with a computer. This dude was like straight up doing

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, gang land activities with a flip

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Speaker 1: phone in prison. And that's just so impressive to me. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: his Blackhead dream home, it's still sitting there, empty, unsold. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's quickly depreciating in value. It's right now it's no

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Speaker 1: longer worth four point four million of the original asking

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Speaker 1: price that he paid. It's not worth about three point

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Speaker 1: five And people are suing to try to like manage

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Speaker 1: it because the house will quickly turn into a wasted Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one last thing about contraband phones, Elizabeth. Now, as

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Speaker 1: we've gone over prison guards are probably responsible for most

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Speaker 1: of them, right, And this also allows prisons to have

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Speaker 1: a reason to roust prisoners and to search their cells.

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Speaker 1: And it also allows them to kind of give like

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Speaker 1: a little uh black market pay to their prison guards

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Speaker 1: so they don't have to do pay increases. But I

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Speaker 1: don't want it to sound like these contraband phones are

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Speaker 1: all negative. I was just going to say that I

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Speaker 1: think it's important that we make a distinction that some

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Speaker 1: contraband phones are used for crimes and some are used

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Speaker 1: look like, well the journalists carry blanket. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if you know. Okay, great writer Great Journalists has written

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Speaker 1: a lot about this, and she makes the point that

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Speaker 1: smuggled in phones are also how whistleblowers are able to

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Speaker 1: report on the prison document excesses of the bad behavior

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Speaker 1: inside the detention facilities. Also, some inmates have been known

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Speaker 1: to self published books. They've been known to take college

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Speaker 1: classes on smuggled phones. They also contact prison reform advocates

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Speaker 1: their family members when they're having a crisis. It's it's

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Speaker 1: really often a lifeline. It's a form of communication, of

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Speaker 1: a connection education. It's so much more than just when

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Speaker 1: there are poor conditions and the outside world doesn't know

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Speaker 1: about it, um, And we've seen that multiple times. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, you look at the fact that the

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Speaker 1: absolute robbery of how much they charge for phone calls.

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Speaker 1: California's best really can't charge him exactly, and it should

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Speaker 1: be blanket nationwide because you know, I don't understand, well

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Speaker 1: I do understand, but I just it's disgusting to me

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Speaker 1: how much they skewer these guys. They're doing their time,

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Speaker 1: and I think that you know, they're paying things back

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Speaker 1: in a multitude of ways, and part of prisons rehabilitation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like there's the whole I think it's part of

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Speaker 1: the dehumanization that is that is in our prison you

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Speaker 1: know industrial complex that you know, you reduce these guy

887
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: is they don't have a name, they're a number, um.

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Speaker 1: And then you take it away where you don't get

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Speaker 1: the like satisfaction of being able to talk to your

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Speaker 1: family without some pain inflicted monetarily. Um. We need to

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Speaker 1: talk to people. We need to talk to our family.

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Speaker 1: And like you're saying, if you want to rehabilitate someone

893
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Speaker 1: like you have to let them have a support and

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Speaker 1: reconnect to the world outside. This should be part of

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Speaker 1: the plan I think it's just important, an important point

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Speaker 1: to make, which is that smuggled cell phones save lives.

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Speaker 1: That's essentially what I want. Arthur Cofield, he's one example,

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Speaker 1: but he's not a good example of all that you

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Speaker 1: would find in prison. So cadger band phones keep rolling. Basically,

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00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: there's just never one side to the story exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for every for every uh that what's his name again,

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00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Arthur yapp Lavish yapp Lavish. You know there's someone who's

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Speaker 1: actually like just trying to be a human being surviving,

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Speaker 1: and we have to be able to consider them and

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Speaker 1: not just be hung up on oh drone smuggling phones

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Speaker 1: in so yeap Lavish can order that his hits and

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00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: billionaires anyway, what's a ridiculous take. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: There were no heroes, no anti heroes. It's just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of well I mean, like, I guess the billionaire

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Speaker 1: isn't so bad. I mean he's just sitting on too

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Speaker 1: much money, but like you know, he didn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like man, these you know, I always I think

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Speaker 1: we're probably the most criminal friendly podcasts. We're definitely not

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Speaker 1: like copagandas UM and I like to kind of find

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Speaker 1: the humanity and people and give people the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt. And we've said it before that you know,

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Speaker 1: most of the people that we talk about are just

918
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Speaker 1: like they've made a series of bad decisions. And you know,

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Speaker 1: because we don't talk about murder, we're talking about mostly

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Speaker 1: financial crimes or other kind of ridiculous things. Um, you

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Speaker 1: can find you can find a little redeeming quality for

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Speaker 1: most of these people. Um, except for like the ones

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Speaker 1: who are really cruel about it. The woman who scammed

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Speaker 1: the town out of all the what was Rita saw?

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Speaker 1: She was terrible. This guy is terrible. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's interesting when we stumble across the people that's really

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Speaker 1: hard to to you know, find it a sweet spot, yes,

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Speaker 1: or anyone to root for. Yeah, but I'm also you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, my ridiculous takeaway. Once again, thank you for

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Speaker 1: asking Elizabeth welcome is the worth time family being able

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Speaker 1: to write off two and a quarter million dollars like, well,

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Speaker 1: that's just a learning experience whatever to anyway, thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. That's all I got for you. Thank you. Well.

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