1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody. Gang's all here, 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: ready to go. The lovely and talented Fritzie and his 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: Bronco gear after a big win. Congratulations Toddler, Go Broncos. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: That didn't sound enthusiasmical, Broncos. There you go. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: Have We got the Jets next in London. We better 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: win that one too. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Uh. Seaton's here, Marv, Paul yours truly in the backroom, guys, 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: A lot of things to dissect today. Last night, if 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: you went to bed, you're not alone, Patriot, well you 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 2: might have been alone. Patriots over the Bills, Surprise, surprise. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Drake May looks like he's ready for the spotlight. The 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Commanders quietly handled the Chargers. I watched a lot of 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: that game, and I kept waiting for the Chargers to 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: be that new and improved Chargers. Give credit to the 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: Commanders and the Buccaneers. You know, don't turn the game 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: off at final two minutes. You know, that's when the 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Bucks seemed to pull out all of these wins as 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: they beat the Seahawks in a shootout. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: Colts. 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: I still believe that the Colts are a playoff team. 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: They rolled the Raiders. The Raiders may have a decision 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: to make a quarterback. The Saints gotta win. About Spencer Rattler? Yay, 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: beat the g Men, the Texans over the Ravens. We'll 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: talk about that game and a little bit. And the 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Titans won. Yeah, well, no, that's Arizona lost. Titans didn't win. 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: Arizona lost. Baseball Toronto up two to zero, when the Yankees, 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Tigers and Mariners tighter to game, the piece Brewers up 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: one zero, when the Cubs Dodgers up one. Oh, in 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: the Phillies tonight, you have the Dodgers at the Phillies, 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Cubs at the Brewers, and the Chiefs and the Jaguars. 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: I got the Chiefs favored by three and a half. 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: All right, Seaton Poll question for hour one is going 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: to be. 36 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 5: Well, we got to populate this one because, as we 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 5: usually start off on Mondays, who had the worst weekend? Oh, 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: there's a lot of candidates here, Okay, I mean we 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 5: could start with, well, Kyler Murray didn't have a great weekend, 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: didn't have the worst weekend. 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not gonna blame him. I'm gonna be 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: oh he did. After the game, he was kind of 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: like stumbling around trying to figure out what exactly happened. 44 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the odds are incredible when you look at 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: the possibility. Okay, I've got the numbers here. Let's see, 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Arizona gave up a twenty one to three lead and 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: they lost. They've lost three games now, and they did 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: it in such dramatic fashion that so they've lost three 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: straight games on game winning field goals, the first team 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to do that since the merger in nineteen seventy. They 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: go even further than that. Teams that had by twenty 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: two points or more in the fourth quarter were one 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy six to one over the last 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: twenty five seasons to close out win. So some pretty 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: impressive numbers there for Arizona as they stumbled, bumbled, fumbled 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: their way to giving the Titans a win. 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, if you're not watching that game and you 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 6: see the Democado the running back fumble, he's going into 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 6: the end zone. 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 7: I think it was like a seventy yard run. 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: He's going to close out that, you know, put them 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 6: in a lead that they can't come back up from, 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 6: and he just lays the ball down to this is 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 6: a guy who's a bounce around running back. He's kind 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 6: of a backup who's having a nice year. He's got 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 6: four career touchdowns, he doesn't have forty, and he just 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 6: lays it down. I mean, what does a coach do 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 6: in a situation like that in game and after the game? 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Oh, after the game, I think gets a long talk 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: and then you know, you start to figure out if 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna have playing time reduced. I mean, you do 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: need him. He did have a seventy five yard run. 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: He has the ability. But whatever happened to when Emmett 74 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Smith would score a touchdown, he'd take the football and 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: take it over to the sidelines and give it to 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: the trainer and he would write down, you know this 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: touchdown came on this day, and that would be it. 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: He would keep all of his footballs. I don't know 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: what's going on now where you just get to the 80 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: front door and it's like you're dropping off a newspaper 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna leave. But that was embarrassing. They 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: also had an interception that turned into a touchdown with 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett. I mean, you want to talk about a 84 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: way to lose a game that is up there in 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: NFL history. Congratulations you did at Arizona and the Titans 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: got a victory. The Jets are winless. You know, I 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: keep waiting for culture. We're big on culture. You know, 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: we talk about culture and guys, you know, Aaron Glenn's 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: gonna come over and he was with the Lions. He 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: knows about culture. But after the loss to the Cowboys, 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: he was asked this question. 92 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: Five straight games without a takeaway. That's historic, has never 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: been done before. 94 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 7: That's true. 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 8: And well, I don't know if it's true or not, 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 8: but I just know this that we haven't taken the 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 8: ball away. And that's one thing you guys are going 98 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 8: to hear me say. It's not giveaways, it's not turnovers. 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 8: You have to take the ball away. 100 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: That's what you do. 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 8: As a defense. There has to be the mentality of 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 8: defense that we have to go and get it because 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 8: no one's going to give it to us. And we 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 8: have to be intentional about that too. So we emphasize it, 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 8: we attack it, we go through it. But man, you 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 8: just have to show up. We got to keep doing it. 107 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 8: We can't just sit back and say, Okay, we're. 108 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: Not getting them. 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 8: You know, we have to continue to try and emphasize 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 8: it and hopefully at some point, Man, they're going to 111 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 8: come in bunch for us. 112 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe I'm not expecting a big turnaround. Didn't expect it. 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Jets fans probably aren't expecting it either. But you do 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: want to see positive signs. You want to go, okay, 115 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: we can build on that. Whenever I see a bad team, 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: I always want to know what are they building on 117 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: the coach, the enthusiasm, the quarterback, the defense, whatever it is. 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm waiting to find out exactly what that is for 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: the Jets. 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, but if you're a Jets fan, you're over 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 9: that because you know what, the Jets have guys everywhere. 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 9: It's not like they have a bunch of minimum wage guys. 123 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 9: They have really good players on every level. They shouldn't 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 9: be zero to five. 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but are they overrated because they play in New York? 126 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: They're the Jets that you know, maybe the media focuses 127 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more on the New York teams because 128 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: you're right, Sauce Gardner is supposed to be great or 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Quinnon Williams. I mean, they're supposed to have guys who 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: are great Garrett Wilson, like they're supposed to be. I 131 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: just I don't know if they are. There are times 132 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: when you get glimpses where you go, man, that guy's good, 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: and then they disappear. But you know, this is it's 134 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: been a really interesting NFL season so far. Statistically, do 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: you realize that there have been fourteen games where somebody 136 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: has scored forty or more points. That's the most through 137 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: the first five games of any season since nineteen sixty six. 138 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 10: Who to day STEATATA day, stout outa day. 139 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: This is the State of. 140 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: The Day, brought to you by Panini America, the official 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: trading cards for the Dan Patrick Show. I'm not sure 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: what the number means, but you have offenses who are 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: piling up some points, but then it feels like you 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: got some teams that are kind of mailing it in 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: that Ravens loss. I mean, even with Lamar Jackson, they're 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: not winning that game, but forty four to ten, and 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: then you start to look at the numbers that the 148 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: Ravens have been giving up forty one, thirty eight, thirty seven, 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: forty four. You're not beating anybody, by the way. North 150 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: Carolina with Bill Belichick and their losses forty eight, thirty 151 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: four and thirty eight. They're both giving up an average 152 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: of forty points per game, the Ravens and North Carolina. 153 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: That's not gonna get it done. 154 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: Dan, Thank you, Todd, Thank you, Todd. All righty eight 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show operator sitting by Tyler will 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: take your phone calls. Any other poll question, Seaton, Why. 157 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: Don't we stick with this one for a minute. Who 158 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 5: had the worst weekend you could look at? We're going 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 5: to jump around from sports here, but James Franklin did 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: not have a great weekend. 161 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: He did not. 162 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: He did not. 163 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 5: Penn State. That is a humiliating defeat. 164 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: No offense to new Heizel's Sun had a really good weekend. 165 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: He's the new offensive coordinator at UCLA, and they might 166 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: have stumbled upon something there with Jerry who called a 167 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: really good game. 168 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, So, Penn State loses to Oregon in overtime 169 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 6: last week. That's acceptable, that's a high end loss, as 170 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: we say, But to be down twenty seven to seven 171 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 6: at halftime UCLA with nobody in the building basically, you know, 172 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 6: maybe twenty thousand out of seventy thousand seats, and they 173 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 6: can't close it at the end. They can't finish at 174 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 6: the end. The only way this is a good thing 175 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 6: is if you're a Penn State fan who is not 176 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 6: like your current head coach, a game like this can 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 6: help you get a new head coach someday, someday soonish. 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: This is where I hope you enjoy that big ten 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: schedule where you get to go all the way out 180 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: to California to play a game. You know, you look 181 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: at these teams where they're going cross country and it 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: didn't used to be this way, but that's the way 183 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: of now. I'm not saying that's why they lost, but 184 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: you're going out to UCLA and all of a sudden 185 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: you have a long flight back with a big loss. 186 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, and Penn State's got some toughies later this month. 187 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 6: They are at Ohio State and host Indiana later this month. 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Penn State, Texas, North Carolina, Ravens, Eagles, Cardinals, Chargers, Raiders. 189 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of candidates to put on the poll 190 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: question today, Seaton. 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: There are there are a lot of candidates, for sure. 192 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: How about the New York Yankees. 193 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Good grief giving up a lot of runs there with 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: Toronto many many runs. Yeah. In fact, vlad Guerrero hit 195 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: a grand slam and it sounded like this. 196 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 11: Righty's two to one swinging a deep drive let field. 197 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: That ball is soaring outa here blood land slam. 198 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 11: Pitch yourself all you want. You will not wake up 199 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 11: from this dream. Right now, the Blue Jays leap nine 200 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 11: nothing on a Vladimir Carrero Junior grand slam. 201 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: On the other side of this, this is how the 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Yankees called vlad Guerrero Junior the third's grand slam. 203 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 12: You on pitch he did deep drive, left field grand slam. 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 10: Well, they can't get Vladimir Berrero out and that one, 205 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 10: as Weethas said, it's not optimal to have to pitch 206 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 10: the flatty with the bases loaded. 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: That's the Yankees call, and I applaud Dave Simms's call. 208 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: There's no it might be it could now if the 209 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: Yankees had done that, then you're gonna dress it up 210 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: a little bit. You're gonna be like it might be 211 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: it could be. You know, that was just uh he 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: did it and then silence. Yes, Marvin, I. 213 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 9: Had to shorten that clip because I counted there was 214 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 9: silence for twenty one seconds. 215 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Oh, they said nothing Grant like that. That's called laying 216 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: out in the business. Let it breathe. Yes, Tom, can 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: you be a homer? 218 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: I guess the other way, like Dave Simmons just did. 219 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 13: It's one thing to get all extra excited when something 220 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 13: good happens, but to totally downplay. 221 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: It with something negative against your team. Habit was a 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: grand slam. 223 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, but you know, I know you want, I know, 224 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 13: I understand that, and everyone's listening and you know you're 225 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 13: they're all bummed. But that that just was really like, 226 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 13: it's still an exciting moment in the game. I'm not 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 13: saying be raw rah, but I think you can be 228 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 13: a homer in the other direction when something negative happens, 229 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 13: like Aaron Rative's grand slam. 230 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no. If he's working for a network, I 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: understand that, but he's not. I mean he's working for 232 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: the Yankees. 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 13: I mean, I'm supposed to be really cheering or booing 234 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 13: even if you're the home team call on. 235 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't think he did either. Yeah. See that is 236 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: madness to me. 237 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 5: I would hate listening to you that the person doing 238 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 5: the home caller, like your team's call, is supposed to 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 5: be right there with you. They should in my opinion anyway, 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 5: Like I don't want to be like, hey, sucks for 241 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: our team, but that was a hell of a shot. 242 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 5: You got to give it to him. That was a 243 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 5: hell of a cut. Good job by you, but not 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 5: great for the hell No, dude, I don't want to 245 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: hear that. 246 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: Todd when the Broncos lost to the Colts and you 247 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: came in Paldie face. How would you like it if 248 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: the Broncos play by play guy was like, oh, it's 249 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: unbelievable that leverage call. 250 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: I would expect the announcer to be very bummed about it. 251 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 13: But I think there's got to be a little bit 252 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 13: of a happy medium as opposed to total excitement of total. 253 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: You are the Homer of Homer's Marvin played again. Here's 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: Dave Simms on the Yankees call with flag roil. 255 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: Do you want Pitt? 256 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 12: He did big drive left filf Grand Slam, So what. 257 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: Do you want him to do? 258 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: Tell a Grand Slam home run at a playoff game. 259 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 13: It's it's a big moment, I know what to get 260 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 13: to your team. 261 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: It certainly shouldn't sound positive, but we're not. 262 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: Going to have a left lane situation with this. 263 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: I think there's a gray air. It's not that black 264 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: and white to me. If you're you know, it's in 265 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: the broadcast booth Grand Slam Blue Jays, and it's not 266 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: looking good for the Yankees. I'm just jumping a little 267 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: more upbeat, but. 268 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: Not the glad shocked. I'm shocked that you don't understand 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: the hometown announcers job. I'm shocked. I am. I'm more 270 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: shocked at this than you in the left lane the passing. 271 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: Wow, let's say something. 272 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: I I am I more shocked at this that you 273 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: want you want him to be up a little bit action. 274 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if up is the you're still calling 275 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: the actor. 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 2: It's a Grand Slam of the playoff game, yes, Marvin. 277 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 9: But Dave Simms is a representative of the fans in 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 9: a way. Do you think if you're a Yankee fan, 279 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 9: oh man, it was a heck of a call. He 280 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 9: feels just like everybody else feels, that's rooting for the Yankee. 281 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: Maybe I feel the play. 282 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 13: By play person supposed to call it as you see it, 283 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 13: and the analyst is the one that goes like that 284 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 13: sucks on a network. 285 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: Maybe, yes, PAULI I think Dave Simms' job is to 286 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 6: call it objectively, but his tone has to match the 287 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 6: broadcast that he's doing, which is the Yankee broadcast. So 288 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 6: he didn't go, oh man, they jobbed us. He didn't 289 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: do one of those where he slanted. 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Worst loss of the NFL 315 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: weekend was turned in by who. 316 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 7: Oh it's Cardinals, right, it's got to be the Cardinals. 317 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 15: I mean, you have a chance to go U twenty 318 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 15: eight to six on probably the worst team in the 319 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 15: NFL at home and Dan, Look, this is one of 320 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 15: my pet peeves and I'm sure it's one of yours too. 321 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 15: How many times do we need to have something like 322 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 15: this happen where they dropped the football before they reached 323 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 15: the goal and like carry it in with two hands. 324 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 15: We've already had a couple times this year carry it 325 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 15: in with two hands, hand it to the ref like 326 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 15: you're in grade school, and celebrate your team instead, it's 327 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 15: just it's just air after air after air, And looked 328 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 15: at last three games the Cardinals have lost by I 329 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 15: combine five points and three walk off field goals, and 330 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 15: I mean the cam Ward, the cam Mord interception turned 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 15: touchdown to It was just a litany of errors, but 332 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 15: there's no doubt in my mind it's got to be 333 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 15: the Cardinals. 334 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: Yesterday, Eagles lose to the Broncos, and it feels like 335 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: there's been some issues there. I touched on this three 336 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: weeks ago. It felt like something was off. They were winning, 337 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: but they were it was taking some you know, some 338 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: spectacular plays and all of a sudden that offense isn't 339 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: clicking like we thought it was going to. What are 340 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: you seeing? 341 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, look, the defenses are stacking the box 342 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 15: against Jalen Hurts and they're they're definitely not letting Saquon 343 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 15: Barkley get to two thousand yards like they did last year. 344 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 15: And at times in the season when that has happened 345 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 15: and defenses has dared throw Jalen Hurts to throw the 346 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 15: football down the field, he hasn't been accurate at all. 347 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 15: Now times they're yes, like yesterday's game, he's been extremely 348 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 15: accurate and it's looked really really good. 349 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 7: That's sort of the issue here. 350 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 15: And look, they're they're four and one, right, and they've 351 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 15: beaten three of the teams that I think are like 352 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 15: top five in the NFL. 353 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 7: They've beaten the Chiefs, theyve beaten the Rams, and they've 354 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 7: beaten the Bucks, Like those teams are really elite teams. 355 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 15: They've done it defensively, and they've done it in spurts 356 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 15: of offensive prowess. They're not motioning as much as they 357 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 15: were last year with Kellen Moore. I'm not sure. I'm 358 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 15: still trying to get a beat on their offense. It 359 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 15: just there's no consistency there. And they have ten of 360 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 15: eleven starters back. They should be a lot better. And look, 361 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 15: I've been one of the bigger critics on Jalen Hurts, 362 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 15: and when he looks good, he looks good, and when 363 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 15: he looks bad, it just isn't clicking. And he's a 364 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 15: very streaky type player. I'm not gonna say this season 365 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 15: reminds me of two years ago, I think when they 366 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 15: started ten to zero then really faltered down the stretch. 367 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 15: But there are some signs offensively to what it was 368 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 15: like two years ago where they faltered down the stretch. 369 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 15: But I just I think they still have the best 370 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 15: team in the NFL. I still think they have the 371 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 15: best roster. 372 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 7: In the NFL. 373 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 15: I would just go more so a signature win for 374 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 15: Sean Payton more so than like damning loss to the Eagles. 375 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: You've got Drake May going into Buffalo and pulling out 376 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: a win. And I know that you break down these quarterbacks, 377 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: but I'm curious, is what we're seeing with Drake May real? 378 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 7: It's absolutely real. 379 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 15: And look, I've broken him down quite a bit last year, 380 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 15: quite a bit this year. It was about halfway through 381 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 15: him starting last year, once he actually got onto the 382 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 15: field that he started playing really well. And then get 383 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 15: with Josh McDaniels and and the offense. 384 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 7: Has looked really, really good. 385 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 15: Look, if you're not following him from a national standpoint, 386 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 15: you are now because this is what Drake May has 387 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 15: done every single game. But it's now on for the 388 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 15: national audience and twenty five million people to see. So 389 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 15: he's gonna start getting his flowers nationally. But it's looked 390 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 15: this good. And he did some and this is sort 391 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 15: of crazy to say, but he did some Josh Allen 392 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 15: type stuff playing Josh Allen and he's not quite the 393 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 15: runner that Josh Allen is. But when he escapes the 394 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 15: pocket like I don't know if I've seen a better 395 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 15: quarterback this year escaping pocket and making some stuff happen 396 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 15: like he did. And so I just think the national 397 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 15: audience is sort of waking up for it. 398 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: But he's been playing. He's been playing this good all 399 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 7: season long. 400 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: The Chargers game, the Commanders were the better team. That 401 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: wasn't a fluke. But I'm it feels like I'm always 402 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: critical of the Chargers. But yeah, I'm sorry, I'm always 403 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: critical of the Chargers. 404 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, look the jayde Daniels coming back, I 405 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 15: think it really helped him. And that's a really good 406 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 15: defense at home with the Chargers, And you know, the 407 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 15: first two games of the year, man, I thought I 408 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 15: was on the Chargers bandwagon. 409 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 7: I played for the charge. 410 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 15: I know, justin Herbert personally, and he's playing like an 411 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 15: MVP through two games. 412 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 7: And then you sort of come back down to Earth. 413 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 15: You lose to the Giants and you lose to the 414 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 15: Commanders back to back NFC East losses, and it just 415 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 15: doesn't look good. 416 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 7: I still think their defense is really good. 417 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 15: But there's a play and a stretch that really sort 418 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 15: of lost them the game, and it was justin Herbert. 419 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 7: He had a guy open. 420 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 15: Quentin Johnson in the end zone on a crossing route, 421 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 15: missed it. He ends up throwing a Keenan Allen back 422 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 15: gets like, you know, knocked away, and then the very 423 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 15: next play it's an interception. And it just seems like 424 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 15: that offensive line with multiple injuries, just cannot stand up. 425 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 15: And they really want to be and it's crazy to 426 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 15: say this, that they really want to be a throwing 427 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 15: team with harball and if they can't hold up in 428 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 15: the pocket and if they get from behind, that's really 429 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 15: difficult for them to come from behind and win. 430 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 7: But I thought the. 431 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 15: Commanders, I mean, I didn't think the Commanders were going 432 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 15: to go in there and win. 433 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 7: But you know, it is what it is any any 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 7: given Sunday. 435 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: Chase Daniel ESPN, NFL and College football analyst. I know 436 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: you've been very excited Dak Prescott, You've been very well, 437 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: But you were talking about how great he's been playing. Yeah, 438 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: and that granted it's against the Jets, but still, what 439 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: are you seeing that it is and he doesn't even 440 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: have CD Lamb in there, So what is it about 441 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: Dak's performance that you've seen that you expect to continue. 442 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 7: I think bullish would be the word right. 443 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 15: And the one thing for me is I'm a technician 444 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 15: when it comes to quarterback plays, so I don't really look. 445 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: At box scores. 446 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 15: I like to watch the film and I like to 447 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 15: try and pick out certain plays or moments within the 448 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 15: game that you are controlling the football. Game stats are 449 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 15: misleading sometimes, Oh, let me throw the football down the field. 450 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 7: We can do this. The way Dak's. 451 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 15: Doing and playing right now, it's at an extremely high level. 452 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 15: It's really at a level I've never seen him play 453 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 15: because Brian Schottenheimer, who's calling plays and also the head coach, 454 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 15: he puts. 455 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 7: A lot on him at the line of scrimmage. 456 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 15: So Dak is consistently and constantly changing plays to get 457 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 15: into a new play that's working. 458 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 7: And I just haven't seen him do a lot this offense. 459 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 15: The way they're sequencing plays, meaning, hey, they're calling twenty 460 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 15: one personnel, but that makes it look like eleven personnel. 461 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 15: They're in twenty two personnel down the goal line, but 462 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 15: they're throwing it. It just makes sense on what an 463 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 15: NFL type offense looks. They're using motion at an extremely 464 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 15: high rate. There's a lot of shifts. There's a lot 465 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 15: of motions, and at every single turn, Dak Prescott's been 466 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 15: in control. And look, he's missing his four starting offensive lineman, 467 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 15: he's missing his number one receiver, and he's missing his 468 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 15: number three receiver. Like, I don't think this Dallas team 469 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 15: is a good team. Do I think they can make 470 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 15: the playoffs and win ten games? Maybe the defense is improving, 471 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 15: but it was against the Jets. 472 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 7: I give you that, But if you just really look more. 473 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 15: Than the stats and the box score, I just like 474 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 15: the way he's playing the position of quarterback and he's. 475 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 7: Been doing it all year long. 476 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: The Baker Mayfield resurgence here from last year and this year. 477 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know, since you played the position, the 478 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: importance of the quarterback in the final two minutes or 479 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: the coach if you were going to say, I'm going 480 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: to give a little bit more credibility to a coach 481 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: or the quarterback. Because Baker and Tampa Bay again in 482 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: the final drive, final two minutes, you're winning games. And 483 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: that's not a coincidence. No, And he's only thrown one interception. 484 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 15: He's thrown ten touchdowns this year, thrown for a ton 485 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 15: of yards. I think he's second or third in the 486 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 15: NFL and passing yards, but it's got to be the 487 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 15: quarterback in two minute drives because I've been with some 488 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 15: really good quarterbacks and I've been with some not so 489 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 15: good quarterbacks. The good quarterbacks and two minute drills they 490 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 15: called their own place. Like I remember when I was 491 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 15: with Breeze and two minute drills. 492 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 7: He's one of the. 493 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 15: Best of all time, and just watching him operate two 494 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 15: minutes and Sean's like, go, Drew's like running out to 495 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 15: the field for a two minute drive and Sewan's like, hey, 496 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 15: you got it, meaning. 497 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 7: You're calling the whole series. Now. I'm not sure if 498 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 7: Baker's doing it of that, but it's the coach has 499 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 7: the easy job. 500 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 15: It's like, hey, one play, and there's a set amount 501 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 15: of plays that you run in two minutes unless you're 502 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 15: huddling on third down or red zone. So there's a 503 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 15: menu of ten plays and Baker has just owned those 504 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 15: and all four wins have come in two minute drives. 505 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 7: And I do think. 506 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 15: That that sort of callous as a team that gets 507 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 15: a team sort of rolling in the right direction. And 508 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 15: I just think in general, like you have to start 509 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 15: talking Baker Mayfield for MVP. Just look at his stats, 510 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 15: look at what he's done, look at what he's meant 511 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 15: to this team, and they have not been fully healthy either. 512 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 15: I just think it's been an extremely cool situation for 513 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 15: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 514 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: And he has that personality that you know, it's almost 515 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: like he invites that drama, like he wants it. That 516 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: nothing seems to be too big for him. And yeah, 517 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: I think that has to go. Like you can't go 518 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: out there and go like, uh, I don't know, you know, 519 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: good luck, guys. You need that guy who gets in 520 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: the huddle takes charge, and that's certainly Baker. The Chiefs 521 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: getting you know, Xavier Worthy back seem like that unlocked 522 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: a lot of different things options for them. Is that 523 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: the only thing with the Chiefs that you're seeing offensively 524 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: that is changing them, making them a little more threatening. 525 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 15: Well, they got under center, they ran the football, they're 526 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 15: in twelve personnel, they're in twenty one personnel, and that's 527 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 15: something that they really haven't tried to do this year. 528 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 15: And then I do think though the catalyst is Xavier Worthy. 529 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 15: I do think what he's doing is opening up the field. 530 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 15: And look, they haven't had a snap, and I know 531 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 15: it's been talked about they haven't had a snap with 532 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 15: she Rice Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy on the field 533 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 15: at all. 534 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 7: And so my whole thing was like, Hey, if the 535 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 7: Chiefs can just. 536 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 15: Get to three and three, if they can get to 537 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 15: three and three through six games, because they have some 538 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 15: tough games coming up, they're gonna be just fine. But 539 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 15: I just have never really understood, like, hey, especially early 540 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 15: this season, Hey, the Chiefs they suck. 541 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 7: They're not that good, and there's been that. 542 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 15: I'm like, Okay, you still have the best quarterback in 543 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 15: the entire world. 544 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: You still have Travis Kelcey. 545 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 7: Who can do it. 546 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 15: I think that offensive line has short up a little 547 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 15: bit more. But Xavier Worthy, when you have a weapon 548 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 15: like that, it's not Tyreek kill esque for the Chiefs, 549 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 15: but it does open up the short pass game. It 550 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 15: does open up the run game, because when you saw 551 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 15: Xavier Worthy last week, the defense was in two I 552 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 15: safeties and Dan, you know you're really smart, but if 553 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 15: you're in two I safeties, there's one less guy in 554 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 15: the box, You're gonna run the football. And look, I 555 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 15: just don't want Patrick Mahomes to continue to be the 556 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 15: leading rusher on the team, so someone else has to 557 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 15: step up for that, but it definitely helps. 558 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the guy who says, can you explain 559 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: the twenty two personnel and the twenty one personnel and 560 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: the twelve personnel and the eleven personnel? 561 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 562 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 15: Absolutely so, Dan, when we're saying twelve personnel, the first 563 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 15: or any personnels, the first digit talks to the amount 564 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 15: of running backs in the game, So twelve personnel want 565 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 15: the one one running back. The second digit always talks 566 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 15: to the amount of tight ends in your group. So 567 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 15: twelve personnel is one back, two tight ends, and you 568 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 15: need five skill players. Dan, So how many receivers is 569 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 15: that two? 570 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: Right? 571 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 15: And then so if you go twenty two personnel, which 572 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 15: is like it just means heavy personnel, it's two running backs, 573 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 15: two tight ends, and only one receiver. There's also thirteen personnel, 574 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 15: which I think the Chiefs do a good bit of 575 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 15: one back, three tight ends, and I think you're sort 576 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 15: of seeing a resurgence of these heavier personnels. 577 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 7: Just talking about trends overall. 578 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 15: In the National Football League, because so many teams play 579 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 15: just nickel defense, so they have five defensive backs on 580 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 15: the field at all times rather than four defensive linemen 581 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 15: three linebackers. 582 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 7: And so when teams are. 583 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 15: Playing nickel personnel five dbs even to twenty two personnel, 584 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 15: two backs, two tight ends, you're seeing teams run the 585 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 15: football a lot more because teams are so sick and 586 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 15: tired of guys just sitting back in two high safety 587 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 15: looks and saying, hey. 588 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 7: Try to throw the ball over ahead. They're just like, 589 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 7: we can't do it. 590 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 15: And that's why I think you're seeing a resurgence of 591 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 15: the play action pass under center game as well. So 592 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 15: these are the trends I'm seeing. I hope I explained 593 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 15: it good enough. 594 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: You did. And I've been saying for years that eventually 595 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: you're going to have an offense that's gonna be all power. 596 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna go, they're gonna run it down your throat 597 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: because everybody's playing that prevent defense and you got, you know, 598 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: quicker guys, not beefier guys up front. And now you're 599 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: seeing that with Saquon Barkley. I mean, you're seeing the 600 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: resurgence in running the football there. So thank you for 601 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: that explanation. I think, yeah, of course. Yeah. And when 602 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: you do games on TV just make sure that you 603 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: speak our language, not your language. 604 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 15: Yes, you know, you guys are really smart, and so 605 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 15: I just figured that the audience of the Dan Patrick 606 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 15: Show knew that. But yeah, that's good advice on TV 607 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 15: because I do try to. You know, the best advice 608 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 15: I got so far was from Kirk Kirtre. He's like, hey, 609 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 15: call game like your mother in law's watching. I was like, oh, okay, 610 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 15: Like if you want to say cover two, that's great. 611 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 15: Just explain what cover two means. And so that's been 612 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 15: great advice. But you guys, come on, you know that. 613 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, we're not good because I could have gone 614 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: through this entire segment and acted like I knew with 615 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: the twelve person. 616 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 7: I saw you laughing when I said that. 617 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 15: But I'm glad like I have, Like that's sort of 618 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 15: what I try to do on my YouTube page too. 619 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 7: I try to like explain some stuff like that for 620 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 7: the average football fan. 621 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know when we throw out a gap and 622 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and you know. 623 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 15: Just that's a little that's a little much the a 624 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 15: gap that was the gap between the center and the guard. 625 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: Just so you know, oh yeah, I know that. I 626 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: was when I was running the quarterback sneak. I went 627 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: a gap all the time, all the time. Have fun 628 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: on Wednesday night, and remember just explaining you don't don't 629 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: you don't have to talk wall to wall. Tick your spots, 630 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: be your brilliant self and enlighten people on some things. 631 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 15: I will, yeah, you know, I've actually I like to 632 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 15: talk a little bit. But I felt like they're in 633 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 15: the broadcast that if you let it breathe a little 634 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 15: bit the the atmosphere and you don't have to fill 635 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 15: every single spot you do those. 636 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: Words, and so do not go wall to wall. Make 637 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: sure that you don't talk too much because you're play 638 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: by play guy still has to do his job. It's 639 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: just you're punching. You're just hitting, hitting, hitting, You know 640 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: that that's what you do. Hit and then get out hit. 641 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 15: Who do you think the best analyst is in the 642 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 15: NFL right now? Or who do you enjoy listening to? 643 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: You know? I like Olson a want yea. Herbie has 644 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: kind of opened my eyes and ears a little bit 645 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: more because he I'm still amazed when the play happens. 646 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: And then you come back and then you have to 647 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: you have to, you know, basically decide this is what happened, 648 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna describe it. I'm like goll Lee, I never 649 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: saw that, and I think that's what's amazing when you 650 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: see you know, if Romo went at his peak or 651 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 2: Collinsworth Herbie. I mean, there's a lot of good analysts, 652 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: but the great ones. The great ones give you enthusiasm nuggets. 653 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: They're smart, they're to the point, they get out and 654 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: it makes it a crisper broadcast. So that's I'm gonna 655 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: would be this one's yes, yes, I'll be more happy 656 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: to critique you on it. 657 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 7: Please, I need you know what. 658 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 15: Here's the thing too, I know you guys gotta go, 659 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 15: but old ex players at play, we like to be coached, 660 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 15: and so much of the fact that, at least what 661 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 15: I've heard from broadcast analysts, we don't get coached because 662 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 15: it's so subjective, Like you can think something's awesome and 663 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 15: then my boss thinks something stinks. But overall, I feel 664 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 15: like there's a good feel for what a broadcast should 665 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 15: look and feel like. And so I think that's the 666 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 15: hard thing about being an analyst is like everyone likes 667 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 15: something different, but I'm just gonna be true to myself 668 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 15: at the end. 669 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Aikman got to this point where 670 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: he didn't give a bleep, like he's just gonna call 671 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: the game, and I think that changed with Troy. He's 672 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: just like, Hey, this is it. And I love that 673 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: because I don't want you to be holding to anybody 674 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: playing favorites. I just want you to call the game. 675 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, Wednesday night, all right. I didn't expect that 676 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: I would be watching Middle Tennessee State and Missouri State, 677 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: but now I am. Now I am Chase. There you go. 678 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: I love it. Thanks man, Thank you, buddy. 679 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 680 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 681 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 682 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: listen live. 683 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: Greg McElroy college football analyst for the Mothership and a 684 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: host of Always College Football podcast from the ESPN and 685 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: Omaha productions. By the Way, ABC Saturday Night Football Georgia 686 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: visiting Auburn, and Greg will be on the call with 687 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: Sean McDonough and Molly McGrath. The Deep sounds oldest rivalry. 688 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: It's Georgia and Auburn. All right, where do you want 689 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: to start a good game or a bad game? I'll 690 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: let you pick. 691 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 16: Well, it's in the eye of the beholder. Dan, I'll 692 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 16: let you direct it where you want to go, because 693 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 16: the ugliest games are sometimes the prettiest in my eyes, 694 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 16: because I'm a football junkie and a bit of. 695 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 4: A sick So I'll let you direct traffic, my friend. 696 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: Right, should we be focusing on what UCLA did or 697 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: what Penn State didn't do? 698 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 4: A little of both. 699 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 16: I hate to do the cop out answer there and 700 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 16: straddled defense. But Ucla was great, and I think their quarterback. 701 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 16: You run into a hot quarterback in college football with talent, 702 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 16: you're going to have some challenges, which means you got 703 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 16: to go out score them, and sometimes that happens. I 704 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 16: thought your defense doesn't have their best stuff. But to me, 705 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 16: this was not about effort. I looked at Penn State 706 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 16: and a lot of people were saying, oh, well, they 707 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 16: were flat. When I watched it, I was like, they 708 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 16: weren't flat. They just weren't making plays. They were out schemed. 709 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 16: They gave up multiple third and longs to run game. 710 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 16: Quarterbacks scramble in particular, which killed them. The third and 711 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 16: fifteen the third eleven both converted with the quarterback scrambled 712 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 16: third and seven leads to a fifty two yard scramble 713 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 16: that three just with the quarterbacks legs and one with 714 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 16: the running backs legs. 715 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 4: That was huge. 716 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 16: The thing that was most troubling to me was a 717 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 16: little bit how James Franklin handled the post game. If 718 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 16: I'm gonna be completely honest, just some of the excuses 719 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 16: travel issues. We lost guys last week, we lost guys 720 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 16: during practice this week. Guys didn't have enough energy, And 721 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 16: to me, that's gonna fall on deaf years considering the 722 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 16: week before, Oregon travels three time zones and beat you 723 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 16: in your house in a whiteout. So I guess I 724 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 16: just don't understand why he took to the podium and 725 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 16: went about it that way as opposed to just taking 726 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 16: ownership and saying, hey, we got to be better. 727 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't want to 728 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: hear these coaches complain about time zones. You know, Lincoln 729 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: Riley going to Illinois, this is what you signed up for. 730 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: This is the Big Ten. This is Big Ten football, 731 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: and that means you're going coast to coast. This is 732 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: what your athletic directors signed up for. So find a 733 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: way to deal with it. I was hoping for a 734 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 2: little more with Vandy and Alabama the game you did, 735 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, you look back on what happened last year, 736 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 2: and I think we thought we would get a little 737 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: more Diego Pabia magic there. Maybe Alabama is a really 738 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: good team. How would you assess what you've seen so far? 739 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 16: I think I think they are very good. I think 740 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 16: both teams, by the way, are very good. And if 741 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 16: not for the strip of Diego Pavia going in where 742 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 16: it could have been fourteen to nothing and now Alabama's 743 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 16: now playing from behind, very much changed the game. That 744 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 16: was the biggest moment in the game was that strip 745 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 16: in the red zone and the fumble recovery for the Tide. 746 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 16: I think Alabama one thing in this game more than 747 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 16: anything else Dan. 748 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 4: They showed the ability to weather the storm. 749 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 16: They showed the ability to absorb the punch, and that 750 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 16: was not something they did very well last year under 751 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 16: killing the Boar. They didn't do that very well against 752 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 16: Florida State. They got punched early in this game and 753 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 16: they responded, so that to me is progress. They also 754 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 16: made some adjustments defensively that I thought were really really good, 755 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 16: and that's not something they've done consistently. At times in 756 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 16: the last couple of years, they adjusted their alignment they 757 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 16: as to where the defensive backs and the linebackers were 758 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 16: off the ball. 759 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: That was helpful. 760 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 16: So I really like Vanderbilt, by the way, like everyone 761 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 16: looks at Vanderbilt to look at the name, to look 762 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 16: at the historical significance, and they will dismiss them automatically, 763 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 16: whereas we've seen with teams like Indiana, with team like Vanderbilt, 764 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 16: where you can be very different in this new era 765 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 16: with nil support, and they are really good. 766 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 4: This was big for Bama to get this win. 767 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 16: And it doesn't get much easier to go on the road 768 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 16: to Missouri this week, and that's a team that runs 769 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 16: for over three hundred nearly three hundred yards a game, 770 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 16: so they'll have their handsful on the road this one 771 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 16: and at eleven o'clock kick there in Columbia, Missouri, which 772 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 16: would be tough against top fifteen opponents. So this is 773 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 16: a very tough stretch for Alabama. This I think was 774 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 16: proof that they have matured as a program, given how 775 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 16: they performed against Vandy compared to how they performed last year. 776 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 16: But it doesn't get any easier as the challenges still 777 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 16: lie ahead. 778 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: Heisman race is wide open. 779 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 4: You got somebody, has there ever been one that's this 780 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 4: wide open? 781 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 16: By the way seven weeks? 782 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 2: But I thought that coming in that it felt wide open, 783 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: just because last year wasn't wide open, right, you know? 784 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: I think arch people thought that, you know, this foregone conclusion, 785 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: Texas to be good. He'll be good, They'll play for 786 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: a national title and you win the Heisman in the process. Well, 787 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: that hasn't gone as scripted. So who do you have? 788 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 16: Well, right now, I think the biggest Heisman moment of 789 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 16: the season could come this weekend, and that's between two 790 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 16: guys that are among the front runners, with Fernando Mendoza 791 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,959 Speaker 16: in Indiana, who's playing lights out football to the first 792 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 16: five games of the year, But this will be by 793 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 16: far the biggest stage he's playing on. It'll be a 794 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 16: nationally consumable audience. Yes, it's up against Red River rivalry 795 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 16: at the same time, but for the most part, man, 796 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 16: everyone's curious what he's gonna do now on the road 797 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 16: against a really good Oregon football team and then Oregon's 798 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 16: quarterback Dante More. 799 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 4: Those two guys are going head to head. 800 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 16: I feel like I'm watching the program and it's you know, 801 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 16: Joe Caine against Wayman. I mean, it's all about the 802 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 16: quarterbacks in this game for whatever reason. 803 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 4: Right, you know you love that that drop for sure. 804 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 16: But to me, it's kind of interesting that one those 805 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 16: two I think are right there. 806 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: I think ty Simpson is ascending, but big. 807 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 16: Opportunities lie ahead for ty Simpson to kind of have 808 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 16: that Heisman moment, whether it's against LSU, perhaps it's against 809 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 16: Oklahoma when John Mattier, who's also in that mix, even 810 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 16: though he's hurt right now, if they play there in 811 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 16: mid November, that could be big. Of course, the SEC 812 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 16: Championship game if they get there's big. And then I'll 813 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 16: throw a little dark horse at you, Trinidad Shambliss Ole Miss. 814 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 16: This kid is the real deal, man. I mean, I 815 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 16: am a believer, I really am. I think he's that good. 816 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 16: And he was a D two player last year at 817 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 16: Farris State. No one really knew who he was. But 818 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 16: I remember doing their game week two and Lane Kiff 819 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 16: and Sean McDonough asked Lane, Hey, Lane, what else do 820 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 16: we need to know about your team? And he goes, yeah, 821 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 16: just so you know my backup quarterback. If he goes 822 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 16: in the game, this guy's gonna cause a lot of problems. 823 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 16: And sure enough he goes in these last few weeks 824 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 16: and he's been unstoppable and against quality competition. 825 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: To l us use no joke on defense. 826 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: What's North Carolina going to have to do? Big picture? 827 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 2: And I know it's early. You got to have patients. 828 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: They brought in all of these transfers, which I said, 829 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: to be fair to Belichick, give him a month and 830 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: then maybe you're going to find out if this team 831 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: is any good. But then when one of his guys 832 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: on his staff, Mike Lombardi, said, we're going to focus 833 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: on freshman next year, well that means you got to 834 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: have even more patience. If you're going to be focusing 835 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 2: on recruits next year, how long do you know if 836 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: North Carolina is any good? 837 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 16: Uh No, I don't think they're very good. I do 838 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 16: think last week was not necessarily the best indicator of 839 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 16: what's going on in the future because Clemson, while they've 840 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 16: struggled in the first four weeks of the season, it. 841 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: Was a kind of a get right opportunity. 842 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 16: Like I just had a feeling that game was going 843 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 16: to go that way, Like Clemson was due and North 844 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 16: Carolina's got a whole host of issues. Now they've had 845 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 16: some injuries, so you could point to that, But the 846 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 16: big problem is that when you look at what Bill 847 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 16: Belichick has done traditionally, and what he does well is 848 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 16: takeaway teams top tendencies, and they haven't really done that 849 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 16: very well, and part of that is a lack of 850 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 16: talent and it's going to take some time. So I 851 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 16: don't think he's in jeopardy of losing his job or 852 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 16: anything like that. I think that's way too premature. I mean, 853 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 16: he's four or five games into his tenure as a 854 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 16: college coach. But I also think at some point you 855 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 16: have to sow some progress because the recruits that you're 856 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 16: recruiting are also being actively recruited by other teams. And 857 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 16: if you can show the recruits, hey, there's some doubt 858 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 16: with North Carolina, then they're going to be more open 859 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 16: to listening to overtures from other programs, even though they're 860 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 16: currently committed to the tar Heels. So I think as 861 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 16: long as recruiting's good, they're in good shape. But how 862 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 16: long will recruiting be good if things spin off? 863 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: The rails ownership offers, did you get. 864 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 16: I don't remember exactly, but probably like thirty thirty five. 865 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 4: In that vicinity. All the smart schools. 866 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 16: Dan that was all I had, all the smart schools 867 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 16: like Alabama and some others, you know what I mean. 868 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: Okay, did Shaban come to the house. 869 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 16: Saban wasn't there. Actually he got there the following year. 870 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 16: So I got recruited by Mike Shula, son of Don 871 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 16: and current offensive coordinator of the South Carolina game cock. 872 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 4: So that was who recruited me. 873 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 16: And him and a guy named Bob Connolly came to 874 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 16: the house and it made the offer and I committed 875 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 16: pretty quickly. My parents didn't even know I was going there, 876 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 16: but thought it was a good decision and ended up 877 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 16: working out pretty good. 878 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 2: If not Alabama, where would you have gone. 879 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 4: It's kind of a tough call. I probably would have 880 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 4: ended up at. 881 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 16: Either North Carolina, but kind of my final groups were 882 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 16: North Carolina, Old Man Alabama. I was committed to Texas 883 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 16: Tech for a bit, probably wasn't going to end up 884 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 16: there because they had taken another guy as well. And 885 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 16: then late to the party were some teams that were 886 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 16: coming in, like USC was really good at that point. 887 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 4: They relate to the party. 888 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 16: So a little different era back then where you get 889 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 16: offered your senior year as opposed to like in seventh grade, 890 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 16: so it's changed a lot. 891 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 2: Did you back up Chase Daniel in high school? 892 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 4: I did? 893 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: Okay, we just we just had him on last hour. 894 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh nice, so he opened. 895 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 4: You Carol Dragons. 896 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,479 Speaker 16: Sure have put the dragon helmet out here and see 897 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 16: who would have had more stars on the on the 898 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 16: side of the helmet like buckeye stickers. I think Chase 899 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 16: probably had a few more than I did. 900 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you, have fun with Georgia 901 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 2: and Auburn coming up this weekend. Thank you always. 902 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: Great to be with you, buddy, See soon. 903 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 2: That's Greg McElroy.