1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Far Bureau Health Plans celebrating seventy six years of providing 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: Tennesseeans with high quality health coverage at an affordable price. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: Visit FBHP today to learn more about their history in 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee and to get a quote Farm Bureau Health Plans. 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: That's FBHP dot com. My name is Mike Keith. Rhett 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Brian is here along with Ramon Foster as we get 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: ready for this weekend's trip to Jacksonville to see the 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Titans take on the Jaguars for what will be the 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: fifty eighth time. Redd, I believe you've been at all 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: fifty eight. Yeah, pretty close. It's yeah, it's a pretty 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: close number, that's right. And weren't there for the first 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: two years of the Jags because they were playing against 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the Houston Oilers at that point. But it's always been 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: an interesting series, an interesting rivalry. It certainly became interesting 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: last year in December and January when the Jaguars won 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: the two games against the Titans after the Titans had 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: won five in a row and nine of the last ten. 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: And so it's back on. 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: It seems like it's always on with this team, with 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: this rivalry, because I think about even in the years 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: where one of the two teams or sometimes both the 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: teams were in a down cycle. There's just something about 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: it because it's a division game and it just brings 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: out sometimes the best and the worst in people. But yeah, 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: with the way everything went down in Week eighteen with 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: three and a half minutes to go, the Titans trailing, 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: you know, and the way all that went down and 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: they won the division, the Jaguars did. Yeah, absolutely, And 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: you know, I'm thinking about arden Key this week, who 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: played for Jacksonville last year, and I'm thinking, yeah, there's 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: probably something little extra in the pilot light there this week. 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: So I went back to the game in January and 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: looked at some of the stats again. The Jaguars won 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the game twenty to sixteen when Josh Allen returned the 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: fumble from Josh Dobbs for a touchdown. That was the 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: difference in the ballgame. The Titans outgained them by ninety 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: yards with Josh Dobbs at quarterback against Trevor Lawrence, and 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs had only been playing two weeks and so 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: they outgained them by ninety yards in the game, led 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: the whole game, the whole game thirteen to seven at halftime, 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: they were up sixteen to thirteen at that point with 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: the ball and a chance to put it away and 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And man, that was a painful, painful loss. 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: And you wonder, had the Titans won that game and 46 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: gone to the playoffs they'd been three times AFC South champions, 47 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: would it be much different? 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: Right now? 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: You know what the difference is, and that is little 50 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: brother finally showed up and started playing. And when little 51 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Brother speaking about Jacksonville, get that one win. You guys 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: have been in that situation before, whether it be with 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: siblings of friends, where you finally get them, you get 54 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 4: that monkey off your back a little bit. That's what 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: I felt like. That game, winning in that fashion that 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: late in the year to give them a playoff birth 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: did for that squad. I think the difference between what 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 4: of the Jacks that we knew in the past what 59 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: we know now is this, they understand that they can win. 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: They've drafted well for a few years to get a 61 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: bunch of talent on that team to where those guys 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: talent with the mindset of their coach Doug Peterson has 63 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: kind of led them to these types of moments. But 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: your rights. I asked that question of Mike, what would 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: this team be had it made the playoffs? How would 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: the mentality of the guys that was here kind of 67 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: evolve moving forward throughout this entire season, because that's been 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: the biggest thing. That was a heartbreaking loss in Jacksonville, 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: and that's kind of this team has been snake been. 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: With this year too. 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: Heartbreaking styles of losing that they've had to deal with. Well, 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: that just be one or two games where you just 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: simply got beat The Cleveland game was like, hey, you 74 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: just got beat down. 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: You get that, sure, But. 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: It seemed like as of late, this team has found 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: ways to lose games the same way they did in 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: Jacksonville to and the twenty twenty two season. 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: What's funny in the NFL is when you fall down, 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: getting back up is so hard. You can say it. 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: You can talk about we're gonna do this and we're 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna do that, and the offseason is great and everybody's 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: there's an attitude in all of this. But for anybody, 84 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look where Buffalo is right now. I mean, 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: Buffalo's elite elite, but they can't get over the hump. 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: And now they're five and five and they're kind I mean, 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: they lost a game the other night they. 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: Never would have lost in the last three years. 89 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Twelve men on the field, I mean at the end, 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: really and and you know they fire the out defensive 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: coordinator after the defensive coordinator had left Leslie Frasier because 92 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: you know he wasn't going to deal with that pressure. 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: And McDermott's going to call his own defense. And Josh 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: Allen of the of the Bills is having a hard time, 95 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: whereas he was considered one of the elite of the elite, 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 1: and I mean he's still a talent, but man, red 97 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: it is it's difficult. It's why even had the Titans 98 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: won that game, finished eight and nine, won the division, 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: even had they lost the next week in the playoffs 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: to the Chargers, I think it's still a very different 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: moment in time. And I think it's a different moment 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: in time for Jacksonville as well. Well. 103 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because regardless of what the outcome was, you would 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: have a third straight division crown, you would have made 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: the playoffs yet again. And so look, I know there 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: are certain fans that get finnicky and say well I 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: want more, and doesn't everybody, But yeah, it's set the 108 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: tone for the offseason a certain way with the way 109 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: that went down, and I think that part of it 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: would have been different. And certainly, I mean, as Ramon 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: pointed out with Jacksonville, that win in Week eighteen to 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: win the Crown was the exclamation point and an exorcism 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: of what they'd been through the prior year with everything 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: that went on with Urban Meyer and getting all that 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: out of the way. And they had that year with 116 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson and getting all that together. 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: Well, and they're winning right now. They especially offensively, they 118 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: haven't played great. They have not. 119 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 4: You look at the third down I think they's just 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: at thirty five percent of completion. 121 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, completion on third down for the squad. 122 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence has had his turnovers. But here's the other 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: side of it too, to that point on how they 124 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: won that game last against the Titans in twenty twenty two, 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: their defense eighteen takeaways on the season. They are playing 126 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: lights out good football in spots and sparts. Last week. 127 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: They can do that because the forty nine ers are 128 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: straight up blitz them and ran them out of the 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: water with everything today and they were coming. 130 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: Off of a bot. 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: But like the Cleveland game for the Titans, everybody has 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: one like that, everybody, and I think sometimes it's hard 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: for the fan base to accept understandably because when you 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: stink up the joint, nobody wants to hear, well, that's 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: your one. You're gonna have one, and as a team, 136 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: you gotta flush it and go on fast. It's harder 137 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: to take losing the Pittsburgh game if you're the Titans. 138 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: It's harder to take losing the Tampa game if you're 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: the Titans. It's harder to take losing the Baltimore game 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: in London if you're the Titans. Compared to what happened 141 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: to Tennessee in Cleveland and what happened to Jacksonville last 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: week against San Francisco. 143 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: It is and that's the point of it all. 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: So right now, I talked about this a little bit 145 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: earlier before we did this, was this team hadn't except 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: one week in Cleveland. One weekend in Cleveland just got 147 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: blitzed and bolt raced. Has not happened. They've been close 148 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: until it's not right. And that's methods of trying to 149 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: figure out how to win. Who's gonna be your playmakers 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: and those key clutch moments right especially offensively defensively, guys 151 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 4: have come up and shown that, look, we can keep 152 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: this thing close. We need complimentary football, whether that be kicking, 153 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: whether that be offense, matching what the defense has done 154 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: as of late too. 155 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: But I will say this for d I think the 156 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: defense needs to do what Jacksonville did in that game 157 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: against Tennessee on January seventh. Their offense couldn't get anything 158 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: going consistently. Shane Bowen, Mike Rabol, the whole defensive staff 159 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: had Trevor Lawrence kind of turned around. They only gained 160 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty two yards, they only scored thirteen points, 161 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: and yet the defense found the play to win the game. 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: There's a part of me, a big part of me 163 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: right now that feels like that's where the Titans are 164 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: at this moment, and if they're going to win a 165 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: game like this, the defense is going to have to 166 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: score special teams is going to have to return a punt, 167 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: block a punt that they need something more than just 168 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: get off the field on third down and get. 169 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: The ball back. 170 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: They need the spectacular like what Jacksonville got in that 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: moment on January seventh, when the hit happened, the ball 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: came out of Dob's hands, went right to Allen and 173 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: he ran it back for a touchdown. 174 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about the tipping point here. You need 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: something greater than what you're doing to put everything over 176 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: and finally get the win and in this case, would 177 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: be the first road win of the year. You know, defensively, 178 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: the thing that bothers you is what they're allowing in 179 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: explosive plays. Playing on defense, they're not necessarily, you know, giving. 180 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: Up the world. 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: But out of those six x plays on Sunday, two 182 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: of them worked for touchdowns. In that, between that and 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: not forcing enough and capitalizing off of enough turnovers, there's 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: where the problem lies in just two things. 185 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: You can quickly point out Tights have only turned the 186 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: ball over ten times. Though that's I mean the offense. 187 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Nine games, they have only turned the ball. If you'd 188 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: have told Mike Vrabel at the start of the season, 189 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: your offense will have turned the ball over ten times 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: through nine games, he'd have taken that. 191 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Now. 192 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: He would have said, well, I'd rather be five, because 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: he's Mike Rabela said what he does, and understandably so 194 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: any coach would. But if it's just you and he 195 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: in a room and it's just the two of you talking, 196 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: would he say I could go through a season giving 197 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: up one turnover a game. Yeah, I mean, you'll be 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: just fine with that. And yet, because they only have 199 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: seven takeaways, that's the number the Jags Ramon referred to it. 200 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: They have eighteen takeaways, and yet they have seventeen turnovers. Exactly, 201 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: they're turning the ball over twice a game on average. 202 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: And yet they're six and three and the Titans are 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: three and chicks because their defense is picking up their offense. 204 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 5: But it's exactly what you said though, too. 205 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: When you have a Josh Allen the defensive end for 206 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 4: the Bills, make I mean for the Jacks, make a play. 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: For you, like it's the old saying. 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: Right, I know, you guys have all Every good man 209 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: gets one, right, every man gets one, but every good 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: man gets two. And we're looking for this team on 211 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: both sides of the ball or in special teams too. 212 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: Where are those clutch explosion plays for them? A turnover 213 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: on kickoff covers right, a return to the opposing team's 214 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: yard lines right like, or offensively, who's the guy that's 215 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: gonna close it out for you in upfront? Protect this quarterback? 216 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: Because here's the thing. I'm of the belief this offense 217 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: is wide open. I think they just laid the playbook 218 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 4: out and put all the sheets on the floor and 219 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: say we can run everything we possibly can. The Titans 220 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: because of the quarterback arm talent, his ability to process 221 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: and deliver players. 222 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: The issue is the guy's up front. 223 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: Give him a half a second longer, and he's not 224 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 4: in a position to really just call them out as 225 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: much as he loved to fellas, give me more time. 226 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: That's gonna be crucial. 227 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: Or defensively, we're getting to the quarterback tierr you got 228 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: your first sack last week, let's strip the ball and said, 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: because guess what if you knocked the ball out of 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: his hand, we get an opportunity to get a fumble 231 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: and you still get the sack. 232 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't care about banging them to the ground. Give 233 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 5: me the ball. 234 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: That's where this team I felt like, as of late, 235 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 4: has missed three and six. And if you look at 236 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: the schedule and the scores and the outcome, might it's 237 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: not like they just getting beat down. 238 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 5: I've said this numerous. 239 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: Times already because we're sitting I'm on the sideline watching 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: these guys. 241 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 5: The wont the need the care is there? You guys 242 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: watching from up top. 243 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: It's not like you're watching the bad news Browns of 244 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: the early tens or the two thousands. This is a 245 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 4: team that has to find one of two, four or 246 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: five guys right that many that has that extra strain, 247 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: and losing takes away from that because you think to yourself, 248 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm in this corner by myself and we're really in reality. 249 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: Guys have to come together and just be honest. Hey, 250 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: Jeff might have to call somebody. Hey, big fell need 251 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: more from you. After practice, We're gonna run a little 252 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: bit more, okay, because if you're out there, we're better. 253 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 5: Okay. 254 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: And then you look at the secondary. I know Kevin's 255 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: not here. That's not our problem no more. Which one 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: of you guys gonna be the one to be the 257 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: blanket for us? Because last week on the Mike Evans 258 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: Explosion play down the Middle, somebody bid on that play. 259 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 5: You can't have those guys. 260 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: Who clamor crave, want pray, right, bleed, sweat for these moments, 261 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: drop the ball when it's their opportunities to take over 262 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: for Kevin Bayer, you know, or the outside rushers. If 263 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: you're mad about not being active on game day, show 264 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 4: me during the week, prove to me in the meeting rooms. 265 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: And I was specifically said Rashad Weavers, a talent who 266 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: last year I thought was gonna just bust out onto 267 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: the scene. This year he's been an active, healthy scratch. 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Those are things that have to be addressed, and guys 269 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 4: have to be realistic with themselves in that moment. This 270 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: ain't no pick on him section session. But when it 271 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: comes down to Mike, you're saying, josh Allen Lasher making 272 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: a play for that defense. It might have to be 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: a defensive win for this group because teams are gonna 274 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: continually pressure Will Levice as much as they possibly can. 275 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Well on the bottom line too, and we know this 276 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: about sports. If you win a game like that, like 277 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: the game from January seventh, this weekend, if you go 278 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: win twenty to sixteen because Harold Landry knocks the ball 279 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: out and Amani Hooker returns it forty yards for a 280 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: touchdown in the final five minutes, what can it start 281 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: for everything. It's amazing how a play like that can 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: fix the offense. It's amazing how a play like that 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: can fix the run defense and pass protection. And you know, 284 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you just this team needs a spark desperately and it 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: may have to come from defense, and I think that's 286 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: the area where they have to step their game up. 287 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: And maybe it's from a likely source. When you draw 288 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: a line A to b in ardent Key, maybe he's 289 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: the guy. Maybe he sparks a play trying to play 290 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: against his old team. 291 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: And it's time. Yeah, I mean it's time. 292 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: And because Harold Landry is coming back as seeing numbers 293 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: before knee injury, like you know what I mean, I mean. 294 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: They're on the way. 295 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Potentially the Titans could have three guys finished with double 296 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: digit sacks, which sounds nuts, but you've got to Nico 297 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: Autrey with six, Harold Landry with five, and Jeffrey Simmons 298 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: with four and a half. And I mean, that's that's 299 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: totally doable. But you said it. And on his TV 300 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: show on Tuesday night, we were showing the Landry sack 301 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter that allowed the Titans to get 302 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: the ball back and the only thing Mike could really 303 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: get deep about it. He's like, hey, it's good rush whatever. 304 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: But he's like, I love Harold trying to get the 305 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: ball out right there. And I had not seen the 306 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: game tape of it, but as we watch that on 307 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: the TV show, he's clearly he's haking Baker Mayfield to 308 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: the ground and he is desperately trying to get the 309 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: ball at and Mike was saying, that's what we need 310 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: more of because the more you do that, the more 311 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: it will happen. 312 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: It will in this week right here, and Doug Peterson's 313 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: come out and said this offensive line group of hislls 314 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: with the Jacks needs some continuity. They've switched left tackle, Okay, 315 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 4: Cam Robinson's been in and out a little bit. Brandon 316 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: Shirt's a real good talent. Jeff I'm sure wants to 317 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: line up over him. But this is a group that 318 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: has blood in the water when it comes down to 319 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: what you're capable of getting from them. They have a 320 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: rookie right tackle also that we vetted in a pre 321 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: draft process also, Sehn Harrison. 322 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 5: It's there for this group, but it. 323 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,239 Speaker 4: Does come down to being honest with your teammates, demanding 324 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: more out of them. Maybe that's you know, Thursdays, hanging 325 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: out a little bit longer, run a little bit. 326 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: Extra after practice. 327 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: Because everything that's happened so far, you still got five 328 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: FC South games left, and the Titans are the bell 329 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: of the ball when it comes down, so you view 330 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: them coming into the season. Last season slipped away from it. 331 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: But it's not like this is a bast squad. 332 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 5: It's not. 333 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: They gotta get this losing stench off and it would 334 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: be even better to get it off the roll too. 335 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: That's the other thing about it, is not letting the 336 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: role climate effect you in this way to where it 337 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: becomes the unbearable task that can be the case of 338 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 4: the scene, because you can still march out of this 339 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: thing clean into the playoffs. 340 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is one in three at EverBank Stadium. They are 341 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: one in three. They have a win in London, which 342 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: was a home game, so they're technically two and three 343 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: at home, but they lost to Indianapolis, or they won 344 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: at Indianapolis, I should say, they lost to Kansas City 345 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: and Houston at home, and then they lost to San 346 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Francisco at home last Sunday. And by the way, it 347 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: is EverBank Stadium, when it was EverBank before Ratt, and 348 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: thank you for pointing this out on the OTP earlier 349 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: this week. From twenty ten through twenty seventeen, it was 350 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: EverBank and then it became Tiaa Bank Stadium, and now 351 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: it's gone back because EverBank has purchased Tiaa and so 352 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: they have now gone with EverBank Stadium. 353 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: So that's a change. 354 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: We had that question Monday and I said Field because 355 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: that's what it was before. 356 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: But that was as usual. That was wrong. 357 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: Sounds like EverBank became the big dog. 358 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: Clearly they did. Who else is a big dogs? 359 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Set Geek now the official ticketing partner of your Tennessee Titans. 360 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard the name yet, get used to it, 361 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: because you'll be hearing it a lot more this season. 362 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or 363 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: to any live event in Nashville. Seat Geek is the 364 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: place to do it. Seed Geek the new official ticketing 365 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans can fan 366 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: a couple of things on Jacksonville here. I'm dumbfounded how 367 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: little roster turnover there is. So I was working on 368 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: my boards and I was working on my rock ter sheets. 369 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how little I had to change it was, 370 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, from week eighteen of last year. Yeah, yeah, 371 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's virtually the same team with the addition 372 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: of one more piece of speed in Calvin Ridley, who 373 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: was suspended all of last year for gambling and is 374 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: now back. Got off to a hot start in the 375 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: last four games though, thirteen catches one hundred and thirty 376 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: eight yards on twenty five targets. So you know, Frank 377 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Frangie was on the Mike Rabels Show Monday night and 378 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: he was wondering maybe had he hit the wall a 379 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: little bit after being out and he was out of 380 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: the game for a good bit of twenty one as 381 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: well when he left the Falcons for what he said, 382 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: we're mental health issues. So I mean, this guy is 383 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: he has been out of football essentially for a year 384 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: and a half now. But man, he can run, run, run. 385 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: Yes he can. 386 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: And that's what we were talking about, is the commitment 387 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 4: was worth it because. 388 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: You still have to watch him on game day. 389 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 390 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely only gave up a four. That's easy for them, man. 391 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: And of course, like I said, the last few weeks 392 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: for him hadn't been the most productive, but you have 393 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: to assume against the divisional fall that he's gonna bring 394 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 4: this a game. Doug Peterson is gonna play this up 395 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: as high as he needs to. And this Titan secondary, 396 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 4: whether it be Roger or whether it be Christian on him, 397 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: they have their hands well, because that's what you don't want. 398 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: This allowed guy who's been real stagnant kind of find 399 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: his juice when he's playing against you. You can't have that 400 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: be the case. 401 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: Travis etn eight hundred and ninety three total yards. His 402 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: rushing totals are good. He's averaged three to eight to carry, 403 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: so it's not like it's off the charts, but his 404 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: ability in the past game and again speed. 405 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's where that's the thing that the Titans 406 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: are gonna have to watch in this He's got twenty 407 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: nine for two to seventy five and a score out 408 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: of the backfield. 409 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: That's almost ten yards of pop right there. 410 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: And in the screen game it's him and Christian Kirk, 411 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: and that's the thing that they're gonna have to guard 412 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: against because they will work them. 413 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: Out of that space that way. 414 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: And you know that's I think the thing that is interesting, 415 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: as we talked to Frank Frazie Monday night on The 416 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: Mike Rable Show, is you know this team's only scoring 417 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: a little less than twenty two points a game. Jacksonville 418 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: is and you can see, you know, Trevor Lawrence nine touchdowns, 419 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: six interceptions, but he's got two hundred completions. Yeah, Like 420 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: he's moving the ball down the field, plaiting sixty seven 421 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: percent of his passes. The interesting thing though, is all 422 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: of last year he was only sacked twenty seven times. 423 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: He's already been sacked twenty four times this year, which 424 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: you know takes those that's that hidden yardage, the chunks 425 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: of sack yardage that come out of the passing game 426 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: start to show up because it puts you in very 427 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: different situations you hit on it. He's got over two 428 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: hundred completions in nine games, and they'll throw the quick 429 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: screen to Kirk, they'll throw quickly to Etn. Evan Ingram 430 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: basically is their Delaney Walker now. Only Evan Ingram is 431 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: the only tight end in the NFL right now with 432 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: four hundred receiving yards and three hundred of them are yack. 433 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: After the catch. Yeah, I mean he's got fifty five catches. 434 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a touchdown amazingly, But think about this, 435 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: so Evan Ingram was four four to two at the combine. 436 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: He was the fastest tight end at the combine. And 437 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: then Zay Jones. We don't know whether he'll play or 438 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: not due to injury in an off the field thing, 439 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: but he can run. Christian Kirk who came over from 440 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Arizona and has played very well for them, second leading receiver, 441 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: he can run. We mentioned Calvin Ridley and etn is 442 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: this the fastest group the Titans have seen so far 443 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: this year. 444 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: They act like all of them were born in Florida, 445 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: and then they all have speed. They went with Florida 446 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: athletes as time on Nelson Man. But yeah, speed is 447 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: gonna be a problem this weekend. But you you do. 448 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: You slow them down by getting to that quarterback too 449 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: and trying to cause as many negative players as you can. Again, 450 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: their third down as an offense is only over thirty 451 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: five cent barely if I'm not mistaken. 452 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: And here's the other issue too. 453 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: When you bring up you know Trevor Lawrence, he also 454 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: uses his legs. This has to be a smart rush team, 455 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: a smart pursue team this week too, because these average 456 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: I think five point one in tot when he does 457 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: decide to run it. But in those moments where he 458 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: becomes a runner and he's up, you got to kind 459 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 4: of lean to him a little bit. And that's where 460 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: me honestly charging this defense to get after him. And 461 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: also when you look at they're six and three, only 462 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: about twenty two points a game. The turnover side of 463 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: what Trevor Lawrence is providing defenses with seven fumbles, you 464 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: got to get an explosion play out of that because 465 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: to that speed point, Mike, if you can get the 466 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 4: ball out of his hand or make him take a 467 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 4: big shot cleanly as a defender, you got a real 468 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: strong opportunity there. 469 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's had fumble issues in the NFL. I think 470 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: that's I mean seven fumbles so far this year, four lost, 471 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: but historically and that he's only been in the league 472 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: for three years. And I'm a fan of his player, 473 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not knocking it. And when you mentioned too 474 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: the running red, he doesn't scramble, he runs and he 475 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: doesn't like to slide either, and so you get a 476 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: chance to tackle a running quarterback and he's sixty six 477 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: two twenty so you have to tackle it. 478 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean five point one to carry. 479 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he'll he'll bust out on a third down 480 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: and go for twenty five yards in a heartbeat because 481 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: he is a he is a really good athlete. Even 482 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: though he looks a little tall and gangly, he is 483 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: certainly he's a hit it and get it kind of god. Yeah, 484 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: that's right. He gets up the field and gets all 485 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: he can and he will run out of bounce, which 486 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: is sort of his strategy. 487 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: But that's what he should do. 488 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: And you know what you gotta test last week, although 489 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: they lost that one with Baker. Baker does similar things 490 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: where if you leave him in a pocket, a little 491 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: pressure and there's a window right there. He squeezed out 492 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: a little bit last week more than we thought he 493 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: needed to write the same goals with Trevor Lawrence this week. 494 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: And again as much as I say get to him, 495 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: like getting to them is gonna be standing your lane 496 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: this week. And if you just so happened to get 497 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: an arm land, they've measured that at the combine. We 498 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: know where everybody is right then just tap him. He 499 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: might give you the ball, but it's going to have 500 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: to be very disciplined because extension the plays and Tampa 501 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: with Baker I think was detrimental. No, definitely was detrimental 502 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 4: to this offense, especially going into that third and fourth 503 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: quarter where Baker scrambled out and got that first down. 504 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they got to keep the ball and the 505 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: Titans offense had to stay on the sidelines when there 506 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: were opportunities to potentially get off the field. Tampa was 507 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: seven to fifteen on third downs, and you know that 508 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: was a big difference in the ballkan Is. When these 509 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: teams stay on the field, you get less possessions, and 510 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: I think that has been something in the Titans' losses 511 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: this year. It's hard to get offensive continuity when you're 512 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: not getting as many opportunities in terms of possessions. 513 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: Is it about flow? Temple flow? 514 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: Essentially that we open up the game last weekend right 515 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 4: in Tempa that first drive, I'm like, here we go, 516 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 4: get to the red zone. Penalties here and there take 517 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: it away from you. But the flow of this offense 518 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: of getting the ball back to Will Levis and this 519 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: group has to be goal number one this weekend. As 520 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: much as we are excited about, well what Will Levis. 521 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 5: Can provide, the defense got. 522 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: To carry the water for a little while to me, 523 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: because with his ability to do what he does and 524 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: despite of pressure around it, that's one thing I got 525 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 4: to give the young kid, I mean praise for he 526 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 4: stands in that pocket and tries to deliver every single time. 527 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: If that's gonna be the case, put the ball in 528 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: his hand as many times you can. Defense is the 529 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: model for me this week. 530 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I guess the most positive thing that came from Tampa 531 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: to me was what guys said after the game about 532 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: him staying in the pocket, because guys don't offer that 533 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: up unless that means something to them. They were impressed offense, defense, 534 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: special teams, whomever, the coaches, they were impressed with the 535 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: way Will Levis stood in there, and that will be 536 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: something that has the potential to last. 537 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: You know what else too, If that's been resonated in interviews, Offensive, 538 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: defensive special team guys, the group that actually has to 539 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: protect him, hear that, and they should feel that pressure. 540 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: They should understand if we do let this young fella, 541 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 4: this rookie stand tall, we got a real shot. And 542 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: so I'm actually excited to hear you say that, Mike, 543 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 4: because I've been in that situation before where that sac 544 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: number starts to tally. 545 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: Up, and you know what you start doing. I'm this 546 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: is actually a job. I better do my job, is 547 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 5: what those guys up front should be saying. 548 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: So good. 549 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 5: I like that they're in this space. 550 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: Commitment to the person and the personal nature of it. 551 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: When guys believe in their quarterback in that way, that's 552 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: a big fact. 553 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, for lack of a better terms, it's taking ownership 554 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: in something that's right. That's my quarterback. My quarterback's tough. 555 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: He's not he when he when the pocket lapses, he's 556 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: not getting happy feet and running off somewhere. 557 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: He's standing in the. 558 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: Pocket to find his second, third, fourth option to try 559 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: to make things happen to move the ball down the field. 560 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Well, and we talked about it before Ritt. The moment 561 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: where that happened for Ryan Tannehill was in Oakland December one, 562 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when he went and laid a form tackle 563 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: on Maurice Hurst after an interception. Maury's Hurst is a 564 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: defensive lineman and he laid him out. Suddenly, the fellas said, 565 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, And that happens at every level of football, 566 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: and it is not any more or less important at 567 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: any level of football, because when people know their quarterback 568 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: is a tough guy, they're gonna fight for it. 569 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 570 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: About mine, he's mad about turning the ball over and 571 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm I'm gonna go do something about this 572 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: right now. 573 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go tackle a big dude. And he did. 574 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always game on with Duncan. So grab a 575 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: coffee and kick off the action. Whether that's drinking a 576 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: cup of coffee on your way to the game, we're 577 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: grabbing one to go before the game at home. Duncan 578 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: is always there to help you get your game on. 579 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Just like the pros. We need to be at our 580 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: best come game time, which is why Duncan is the 581 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: most important part of your game day ritual because it's 582 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: always the best call for football. America runs on Duncan. 583 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: The question I have though, is can the Titans run 584 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars. They are giving up eighty six yards 585 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: rushing per game, three eight per carry, and their hallmark, 586 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: if you ask them, was when Derrick Henry went down 587 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: there on January seventh. We're referring to it again January seventh, 588 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Thirty carries for one hundred nine yards. 589 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: They would gladly give up one hundred nine yards on 590 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: thirty carries because that's three six a carry to this 591 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: guy who had absolutely tortured them. 592 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 5: That's efficiency as a defense right there. 593 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: And so that point in they got some bigs upfront 594 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: that do the job. 595 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 5: They ain't gonna light you up. At the detackle position. 596 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: There are big body dudes that play a style of 597 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: ball that says, watch our linebackers and outside linebackers go 598 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: to work four Yeolo kon Okay and also not just him, 599 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: Devin Lloyd, second year, first round draft pick from last year. 600 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: They run, they run well, they get to the quarterback also, 601 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: and they are sure tacklers more times than not. 602 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's a tall task. 603 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: But this group, and we've been speaking about them a 604 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 4: lot offensively up front, they got to get to a 605 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: point that said, just win the line of scrimmage if 606 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: it means slowing it down, moving them back, securing the 607 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: first level. 608 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: First. You got something Elijah. 609 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: Canzi last week in Tampa, May plays because the group 610 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: of front was super eager. 611 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 5: You go back and look at that tape. 612 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: They were man on man and double teaming and then miscommunication. 613 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: I've been in that spot before too. On the old line, 614 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: we have a slip block going to the middle linebacker 615 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: and guess what happened. 616 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 5: I would come off early and leave the tackle behind. 617 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 5: That happened last week between. 618 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: Raiders and help earlier in the game, or Colajahkans against 619 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: the TfL. 620 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: It has to be first level. 621 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: First beat these dudes up to on one and move 622 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage. If you get Derek to the 623 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage or taj you got a real opportunity 624 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: for big plays. Derek leans forward and get four. It's 625 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: hard to lean forward and get forward when you got 626 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: people at your feet. And that comes down to your 627 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: humbo blocks up front. And here's the other thing too, 628 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: charging these tight ends to secure the end of the 629 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage too. 630 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 5: You can't allow that. 631 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: Again, that comes down to accountability of one teammate to 632 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: another and say I'm gonna do my job if you 633 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: do yours. And it's so simple. But not being eager 634 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: to make plays because we're losing. It's something that teams 635 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: that have a streak of not knowing how to win 636 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: will do. I've been there myself. Whereas man, we gotta go. 637 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: We gotta go. 638 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: No, slow it down, let it process, let them know 639 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: you're not going anywhere. Because Derek hadn't lost it, Taja 640 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: hasn't You have a yang and a yang that could 641 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: work well for you, even on a road in Jacksonville. 642 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. 643 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: As much as they've done well, that crowd of theirs 644 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: will shut up because they are used to losing. You know, 645 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: that's the other portion of it. It's controlling what their 646 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: crowd is all about. They have that mindset. The players 647 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: will leave, but that crowd is shut up. If you 648 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: take care of that first level and you don't hear 649 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: four Yer's name, you know, being blasted all across or 650 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: there's an errant pass down the field they get intercepted 651 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 4: something like. 652 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: I can live with that. 653 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: But if we can control the los line of scrimmage 654 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: first level, first I think they got something. But of 655 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: course that's what injuries. Hoping to get bronsk Goo back 656 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: and figuring out left tick slow it down is what 657 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 658 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: And Derek would love to do that. He'd love nothing 659 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: better because going back there to his hometown, I mean, 660 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: he's owned them and he didn't in the game that 661 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: ended twenty twenty two. I think it really broke his heart. 662 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he had one hundred yards, but he didn't 663 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: have the game he wanted to have. I mean to 664 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: battle for everything. 665 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: That or nine yards on thirty carry, yeah, not seventeen 666 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: for two thirty eight right, no, whatever, But I mean 667 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: he's used to torturing them, Yeah, and he would, and 668 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: it would speaking of a defensive performance with takeaways and 669 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: maybe the defense scoring Dereck Henry long run for a 670 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: touchdown would be a beautiful thing for this team right 671 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: now too. 672 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: Last two weeks, I feel like it's been close. 673 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: He had it in Pittsburgh, got tripped up by foot, 674 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: and I thought he had a last week two, got 675 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: tripped abay foot. 676 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 5: If it's most closer to you, lift your knees up, like. 677 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: It's been there for Derek Man and you see people 678 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: going low in space just to grab his shoe strings, 679 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: and like you said, it's there. 680 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 5: And I feel the same as sech Way about Taj too. 681 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm watching for the end of the week. 682 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Injury report obviously several names for both teams, but also 683 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: Jamal ad with the punt and kick returner for the Jags. 684 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Super dangerous. 685 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 686 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: He has six return for touchdowns. He also is a 687 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: fumble return for a touchdown, so he's seven total returns 688 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: for touchdowns in his career. And he's the one, probably 689 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: the one on both kicks and punts that I think 690 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you hold your breath on the most in the league 691 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: right now. In terms of his versatility, he'll bring it 692 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: five yards out of the end zone. I mean he 693 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: generally lines up nine yards deep so he can come 694 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: forward and try to catch a kickoff on the run. 695 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: If he's not able to go, that changes them dramatically 696 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: on specialty. 697 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Christian Kirk, I believe, is the backup there. Yeah, 698 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: and he's not gonna want to get involved. He's going 699 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: to make business decisions. He's a good punt returner. He's 700 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 2: really not a kickoff returner. I mean they might put 701 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: like the rookie Tank Bigsby back there, or de Ernest 702 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Johnson who used to play for the Browns. I mean 703 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: those are the kind Hey, they're NFL players. I'm not 704 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: in any way being critical of anybody who's made it 705 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: to the NFL. 706 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 3: I'm just say and Jamal Agnew is different. 707 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: He is different. It's a good thing. 708 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 4: Ron Stonehouse that has developed that helicopter kick. 709 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: What if it's crazy. 710 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: It was wild watching it. If y'all hadn't seen it, 711 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: please watch that. If you listen to us, it spins 712 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: and rotates almost like a curveball. It's very fascinating to 713 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: watch him do work on Sundays. And that's the gift 714 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 4: and curse of it. Also, too, is Stoney out kicks 715 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 4: his coverage. You know, we're not talking about the dating 716 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: pool here. I'll kick coverage here, but the coverage has 717 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 4: to do well in those moments. And if you have 718 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: a dangerous guy back to return and kick off or 719 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: in pump return, man, that's a long day at the office. 720 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 4: Because the other portion that is suics Agnew's average is 721 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: higher than others on pump returns kick returns. That hitting 722 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: yardage matters the same way. 723 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 5: You just said earlier. 724 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: Nobody really accumulates or calculates those sack numbers at the 725 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 4: end of the passing, at the end of the day. 726 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's ten six per punt and twenty seven to 727 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: seven per kick return. You talk about a serious difference 728 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: in field position. 729 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: Well, and you're and you're having to scheme for it more. 730 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: You know most weeks now in the NFL, nobody returns 731 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: a kickoff, which is another edition of. 732 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: The OTP that we're doing the off season. 733 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: But it's just really I mean, the guys stick their 734 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: arms out or they fair catch, mean, who cares, And 735 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: it's something you just don't have to worry about that much. 736 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: With Jamal Agnew you got to worry about. You better 737 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: figure it out, and you better not mishit a punt 738 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: if you're aiming toward the right sideline, don't kick it 739 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and have your coverage 740 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: guys not be in the proper lanes because he can 741 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: bust it in a hurry. And Okay, so it's not 742 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown. But to your point, Ramon, even a twenty 743 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: five thirty yard return means that you only need two 744 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: first downs instead of four or five first downs to 745 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: be in field goal range for Brandon McManus and those 746 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: very good, by the way, very good. Yeah, what kicker 747 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: in the league is not very good right now? It's 748 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: up to like a crazy standard. Yeah, no kicker has 749 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: missed a field goal against the Titans this year. Twenty 750 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: five of twenty five folks only missed one. So the 751 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: fifty one yarder Nick Folk has missed and the blocked 752 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: extra point are the only two missed kicks in a 753 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: Titans game this year. 754 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: I was honestly shock looking at Brandon McManus's stateline. Yeah, 755 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 4: and we wrote it down for work purposes. But he's 756 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: eleven to thirteen from forty plus. Yeah, so forty five 757 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 4: plus includes the fifties two and he's four for five 758 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: on fifty plus himself. You're right, Mike, it's almost becoming 759 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 4: automatic with how points are coming as a premum at 760 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 4: a premium now, with the way the game has developed, 761 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 4: and we brag so much about a defensive end running 762 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 4: a four to four, d tackle running a four to six, 763 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: we need to be really hyper focusing on what these 764 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 4: kickers in this. 765 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 5: League is doing. 766 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 3: And the punters. 767 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just like Cook is a very solid 768 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: good Yeah. 769 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean the average punt in the league right now, 770 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: the average is forty seven yards. 771 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 5: That's the average. 772 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 773 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: Hey, there was a day where I mean, if you 774 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: had a forty yarder you were considered provol I mean, 775 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: Ray Guy's numbers compared to these guys today. 776 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 2: And there's an influx of Australian punters coming to play 777 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: college football and then making their way into. 778 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: The versity if Tennessee as a kid who can kick 779 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: with both feet and yeah. 780 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 4: I thought I was seeing things when he did that. 781 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: He rolled right one, Oh, okay cool, then he rolled left. 782 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 4: I was like, well, was he about to kick it 783 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: with his rifle? No, he's just that good right the game. 784 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: Well, and to your point about all of the different 785 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: things regarding the helicopter kicks and the directional punting, I mean, 786 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: these guys are weapons. I mean Stonehouse broke Sammy Baws 787 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: record last year for gross punting yards. He's four tenths 788 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: of a percent, four tenths of a yard behind what 789 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: he did last year. But his net is up to 790 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: forty four yards per punt and he has twenty kicks 791 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: down to inside the twenty to only six touchbacks. He's 792 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: having a better year. And remember this too. Hit a 793 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: punt blocked in the New Orleans game that does not 794 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: count as a punt block because it went only one 795 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: yard beyond the line of scrimmage and so it doesn't 796 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: count as a block punt. But that still comes out 797 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: of his totals. So if you took the one yard 798 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: punt out of there from the first game this year, 799 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: his numbers would be astronomical. 800 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 801 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 4: And then of course you look at Nick folks miss 802 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: last weekend Tam but I honestly thought he slipped or chests. 803 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 5: He pushed it more than anything that was a hemn. 804 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 4: Problem wasn't necessarily like, oh, we got big issues and 805 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 4: easily correct the ball is the way you. 806 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: Look at, well, he just hit a bad ball, had 807 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: a bad ball. I mean that's what it came down to. 808 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: He hit a bad ball and you know, yeah, you 809 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: could see it when he left it wasn't gonna make it. 810 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: And the way that it was still spinning, you could 811 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: tell it wasn't blocked because it still had a true 812 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: rotation on it. It's just like, oh, and everybody always 813 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: wants to use the golf analogy with shank and the driver. 814 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: I hate that because I think that's too easy. But 815 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: he shanked the. 816 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 4: Drivers me every time I'm. 817 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 5: On to it. 818 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: Well, hey, good conversation. 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Now, where can can 828 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: you hear us on the Titans App? How does that work? 829 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 4: So? 830 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: Now, the NFL has rules about where you can listen. 831 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: You can listen on the Titans app if you are 832 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 2: within the Nashville market and I think that's one hundred 833 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: mile radius. But the key is if you go to 834 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans dot com and you listen on your desktop, 835 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: you can listen anywhere in the world. 836 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't know that. Yeah, well, we thank everyone 837 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: who listens. We are most appreciative because we need jobs. 838 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: So thank you for being with us for remote Foster 839 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: and Retbrian. My name is Mike Keith. Thank you for 840 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: being with us for the op