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Speaker 2: Really from yes Jean Jacques Taylor, former Cowboy Beat writer

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Speaker 2: and the author We Got Bobby Belt one three the Fan,

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Speaker 2: the Flack, She's Station of the Dallas Cowboys, and Young

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Speaker 2: Nick Hare's foot Worth Star Telegram. I'm merely Newie Skirts

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Speaker 2: to help conversate with these gentlemen here. Brice Schottenheimer stepped

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Speaker 2: to the mic today and had some uh interesting take

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Speaker 2: about Treyvon Diggs and his availability when Jason Garrett was here.

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Speaker 2: I learned to listen to what Jason didn't say, oh

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Speaker 2: as to what he really would mean at times, because

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Speaker 2: he'd be very effusive about certain players and if you

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Speaker 2: ask about one guy kind of go lukewarm here so

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Speaker 2: young Nick, your thoughts on his Trayvon Digg's ability to

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Speaker 2: play and what he needs to do to get.

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Speaker 4: Back on Can I read the quote or is that

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Speaker 4: bad radio?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: No, all right, quote, I read your quote on the

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Speaker 2: players line, but go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. Appreciate that, all right.

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Speaker 6: Brian Schottenheimer on Trayvon Diggs's potential to play versus Minnesota

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Speaker 6: on Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: He said he's still in the ramp up period. He

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Speaker 4: does feel healthy.

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Speaker 6: I know he wants to play, but at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, we have to do what we think

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Speaker 6: is in the best interest of not just him but

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Speaker 6: also the football team. When you miss time, there's a

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Speaker 6: ramp up period for not just your body but your

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Speaker 6: mind figuring out the defense and there's some new faces

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Speaker 6: in the huddle. I love him as a player, but

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Speaker 6: ultimately he's got to show us that he's ready to

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Speaker 6: do everything the right way.

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Speaker 3: Pull your head at your keista man. Whatever that means,

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Speaker 3: whether it means show up on time, whether it means

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Speaker 3: go through individual to drills at the right tempo, that

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Speaker 3: means show to you, rehab on time, whatever that means,

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Speaker 3: do it or you could sit there and watch us play.

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Speaker 2: Jack Taylor's interpretation of Bobby.

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Speaker 7: What was I just did the final quote there? Try

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Speaker 7: that with anybody else, you know, mm hmm. I love

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Speaker 7: my wife, but I love I love I love my kids.

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Speaker 7: But this is whenever there's an I love him, but

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Speaker 7: it okay, all right? There was a he gave a

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Speaker 7: really interesting quote Calvin Watkins. I think it was last week,

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Speaker 7: two weeks ago maybe where he did Trayvon dig said

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Speaker 7: in reference to shot he said, uh, you know, different

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Speaker 7: coaches have different rules. I guess you can say it's

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Speaker 7: a growing relationship. It's like, well, that doesn't sound super

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Speaker 7: awesome right there. And then there was after that. We

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Speaker 7: had asked Shotty about it on the Morning Show on

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Speaker 7: Wednesday when he came on, and I think the the

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Speaker 7: way it was worded to him was, has Trayvon had

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Speaker 7: a more difficult time than other guys adjusting to your style?

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Speaker 7: Something along those lines, and shot he was like, A,

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Speaker 7: you know, that's probably fair, and then went on into

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Speaker 7: other stuff. But it's like, there are little tidbits here

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Speaker 7: and there that show you there's some frictions I think

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Speaker 3: This is the question you can ask is does that

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Speaker 3: give you things to do on your job?

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Speaker 7: Hit me, It'll have to be next week because I'm

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Speaker 7: off the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of the week, right, he sho, Which are the rules?

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Speaker 3: Tray Vine has the toughest time following?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like really like?

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Speaker 3: And you know which ones? Is it showing up the

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Speaker 3: rehab on time? Is it being on meetings? Which rules

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Speaker 3: are the hardest for him to follow?

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Speaker 2: Claire's Hill on his social media page asked a question,

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Speaker 2: what does everything the right way mean in regards to

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Speaker 2: me rehab? And you just touched on there talking about.

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Speaker 7: No, no, not need rehab, mental too. You're right, he

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Speaker 7: said it mental too. He said you got to get

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Speaker 7: your mind right too. It's not just how you feel,

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Speaker 7: it's also your mentals and how you're seeing the game.

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Speaker 7: But you know he's giving you the context clusive.

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Speaker 3: It does you know what's probably happening is tray Vine,

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Speaker 3: because of his talent, has been babied everywhere he's ever

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he was allowed to do it. Maybe he

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Speaker 6: I would say the talent always super seded the is.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, and so much so that I

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Speaker 6: would be pulling if I'm Shoddy, I'm pulling George Pickens

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Speaker 6: into my office. I'm being like, look, you're a fantastic player.

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Speaker 6: We have loved having you around here. Take a look

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Speaker 6: at number seven.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 6: When things don't go right and you have these issues

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Speaker 6: that have been happening behind the scenes, that stuff gets

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Speaker 6: a lot more difficult to deal with. And I think

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Speaker 6: they're starting to see that, and that's ultimately why Trayvon

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Speaker 6: Dicks is not gonna be a cowboy after June first

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Speaker 6: next year.

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Speaker 2: But these are the final four games unless they make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. This is we're seeing the end, and.

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Speaker 3: We ain't gonna let you put on no good tape

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Speaker 3: until you shows that you ready to do all the

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Speaker 3: things that you need to do. I think that's good

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Speaker 3: for Shoddy man stand for something or a fall free thing.

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Speaker 7: I think I want to be very particular how I

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Speaker 7: say it.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 7: I think that the previous regime, at times there there

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Speaker 7: was a thought of like why is he allowed to

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Speaker 7: do so much stuff? Why is he able to get

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Speaker 7: away with all this stuff that that other people wouldn't

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Speaker 7: get away with. And I think some of that now

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Speaker 7: is it's just down to code enforcement.

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Speaker 3: Now I get that, you know, this to me is

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Speaker 3: no different than you know, different teachers that have different rules.

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Speaker 7: Sure, and you know it's you know, it's a hundred.

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Speaker 7: So we made this point earlier this week with or

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Speaker 7: there about Pickens, and it can apply to Digs too.

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Speaker 7: The idea of I may be more of a disciplinarian

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Speaker 7: show r J Choppy is in fact I know I am.

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Speaker 7: But so you could have my kid living with me

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Speaker 7: and people be like, man, he's always in trouble. That

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Speaker 7: the same things he's been doing and does not have

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Speaker 7: an Howard reputation. Well can always in trouble because he's

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Speaker 7: not in trouble over there. It's it's not a rule

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Speaker 7: a big part of it is just new enforcement, new rules,

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Speaker 7: new way of doing things, new standards. That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: As I like to say, it's not good at Bad's

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Speaker 3: just what it is. And you can choose to follow

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Speaker 2: When I worked with Klay Travis and or NBC Sports Trader,

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Speaker 2: how do you just have this great line? He says,

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Speaker 2: as long as your talent outweighs your problems, people will

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Speaker 2: deal with you. But at some point in time when

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Speaker 2: your talent doesn't do it, they don't want the problems.

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Speaker 2: And absolutely, and from listening to what Shoddy's saying, what

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Speaker 2: you're decoding here is, Hey, guess what, man.

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Speaker 3: You got all these knee things, You got all this

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Speaker 3: stuff O. You ain't worth the trouble no more. Man,

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Speaker 3: take your but somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: You're not an all pro anymore. Yeah, we don't need

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Speaker 3: And that's hard for a player to hear because he

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Speaker 3: ain't never heard that before. Because his talent is nixed.

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Speaker 3: It has always allowed him certain privileges, certain rights, certain

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Speaker 2: Now, he was very he was very tight still is

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Speaker 2: today with Michael Parsons and the rope Michael was given

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Speaker 2: was you know, it.

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Speaker 3: Was a good rope, and it's a good rope wherever

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Speaker 3: Mike is right now, and.

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Speaker 2: They were they were running mates. They sent part of

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Speaker 2: a message.

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Speaker 3: You know what, man, let me tell you something. It

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Speaker 3: was the It was the fall of nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: It was a very good year.

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Speaker 3: It was a very good year. I was the aged

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Speaker 3: clerk at the Columbus Dispatch, one of the prize atgic

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Speaker 3: clerks at the Columbus Dispatch because I could type up

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Speaker 3: the box scores from nagged that was that's a newspaper, kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a newspaper. That's a newspaper term. And I called

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Speaker 3: come work down here. Came down, got the job. Within

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Speaker 3: a month. They called Mike in and said what are

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Speaker 3: he was doing everything I was doing. But he hadn't

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Speaker 3: been there long enough and he wasn't good as me,

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Speaker 3: and so they told him you can't do what he

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Speaker 3: does until you've been here like three years. That's Trayvon

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Speaker 3: and Michael Man.

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Speaker 2: Too, you know the old line is two of us

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Speaker 2: are the same, one of us is not needed.

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Speaker 3: And I used that at the house the other day.

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Speaker 7: I don't think i've ever heard that. I like it.

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Speaker 7: I don't think I have I like it, and I said,

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Speaker 7: there can't be two people like us like me.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times duplication isn't good. No, sometimes it's good,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, oh look it's it's real clear. We saw it,

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Speaker 2: you know when when they this summer, when the whole

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Speaker 2: that you saw where the relationship was ending. And now

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Speaker 2: it's just gone even further because we still have yet

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Speaker 2: to hear from Trayvon Diggs about what happened in his

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Speaker 2: home that find.

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Speaker 4: And you'll never find out. I don't think anyone ever

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Speaker 4: will find out.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, what you mean, well, I don't want nobody

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Speaker 3: to find I.

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Speaker 6: Don't think anyone's really going to have one hundred percent

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Speaker 6: know what's gonna Let me.

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Speaker 3: Tell you when, let me tell you when, let me

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Speaker 3: say you when it's gonna get reported the day they could.

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Speaker 4: Him, probably the day they could him.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying that there are people back there that

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Speaker 6: have heard very different stories.

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Speaker 3: Well they're gonna put it, They're gonna put them all

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Speaker 3: a lot and then say you the public can choose

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Speaker 7: You know, it's to the point that you're talking about though,

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Speaker 7: of like your talent and does it supersede the headache

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Speaker 7: that you are every every player eventually who's too good

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Speaker 7: for the rules and then ed is worth putting up

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Speaker 7: with that ache? Eventually every player gets the fall in

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Speaker 7: line talk like all right, fall in line now, like

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Speaker 3: This happens in every business man, Yes, yeah, every business.

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Speaker 3: And they say thank you, thank you for that's why

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Speaker 2: I say thank you for your SERVI and like, there's

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Speaker 3: You think he'll play here again?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: I've gone back and forward throughight. Now it feels like no.

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Speaker 3: So if Philly loses to Washington, we'll see him again here.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I say yes.

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Speaker 3: Is don't let your money get mad.

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Speaker 2: Well, not that your money be man, but you know what,

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Speaker 7: And Chris is also maybe send it again, like you

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Speaker 2: George Pickens. So, George Pickens had his worst game of

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Speaker 2: the year on Thursday against the Detroit Lines. That's fair

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Speaker 2: Yes. Mark Shalaire, three times Super Bowl champion, went said

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Speaker 2: he would not pay George Pickens, and then he used

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Speaker 3: Well, he's you know, stink, angry old dude, and.

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Speaker 2: And I say he's had a lot of good games.

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Speaker 3: Here stink did when he wasn't peeing on the set.

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Speaker 7: It's about callous.

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Speaker 6: Nicholas, Yeah, I'm I'm in the train of George Pickens

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Speaker 6: To let's that he did have effort issues on Thursday,

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Speaker 6: It's like, because he has five hundred yards this year,

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Speaker 6: And you say, hey, hit the practice field and this

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I've seen you play better than that. If he responds

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Speaker 7: To pushing the right buttons.

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Speaker 7: George Pickens didn't always look like he was out there trying.

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Speaker 3: He was disengaged.

442
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Speaker 7: Like it's just two different reasons, Like I think one

443
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 7: is a bad game that you expect him to move past.

444
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Speaker 6: I would put the bad body language from CD right

445
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Speaker 6: in that same.

446
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Speaker 7: Game, body sure, sure, that's thank you. Yes, the body

447
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 7: language is an issue, but like when that sort of

448
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 7: stuff happens, it's just I would say that like one

449
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 7: is a bad response to playing poorly the others it

450
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 7: felt very self inflicting.

451
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Speaker 2: So I go back to what I used to say

452
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Speaker 2: all the time I was doing radio is interesting on

453
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Speaker 2: who we choose to condemn and who we choose to forgive.

454
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Speaker 7: Sure, but why, like like in terms of if you

455
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Speaker 7: talk about with CD, what was CD's problem that those

456
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Speaker 7: games that's been drops And it's like, how are you

457
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Speaker 7: not finishing the play with George very first snap of

458
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Speaker 7: the game next Gen stats, it's a handoff. It's it's

459
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 7: a ball going to Georgia side dak ran one mile

460
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Speaker 7: per hour faster handing the ball off to Javonte Williams

461
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Speaker 7: and George Pickens did off the line of scripts. I

462
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 7: mean that right there, That's that shows an issue with that.

463
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Speaker 2: Go back to what Jack said, Hey, you get the

464
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Speaker 2: tape man his issue?

465
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 7: Right?

466
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Speaker 2: What did it take us week what thirteen fourteen until

467
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: you said, hey man, this is a problem.

468
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Speaker 7: This is a dude that was helping you win games.

469
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm paying it. Look here, this is the

470
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Speaker 7: analogy that dawned on me when I was driving back

471
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Speaker 7: from the airport Friday morning. He's if you follow baseball,

472
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Speaker 7: if you ever follow baseball, He's Manny Ramirez. That's who

473
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Speaker 7: he is. George Pickens is the NFL version of Manny Ramirez,

474
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Speaker 7: where he's ridiculously naturally talented at what he does. He

475
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Speaker 7: is either unstoppable or sometimes looks uninterested, and it can

476
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Speaker 7: change from play to play or week to week or whatever.

477
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Speaker 7: You're just like, you don't even know why, but you

478
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Speaker 7: know what. You pay Manny Ramirez every day of the

479
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Speaker 7: week two because you go he's that good and you'll

480
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Speaker 7: put up with it. Same sort of thing with George Pickens.

481
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Speaker 7: You pay George Pickens because he's good enough that you

482
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Speaker 7: you deal with that stuff happening. You try your damnedest

483
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Speaker 7: to make it better. But even if you're told it

484
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Speaker 7: comes with that, and then you go, okay, cool, I'll

485
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Speaker 7: still sign up for the Raiders game. I'll sign up

486
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Speaker 7: for the Eagles game. I'll sign up for the Washington game.

487
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Speaker 4: This again, does it make the money different?

488
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Speaker 8: Though?

489
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Speaker 6: I think that's a different conversation in which I would

490
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Speaker 6: probably dip into That's probably the difference between three and

491
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Speaker 6: four years. That's probably the difference between thirty and thirty

492
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Speaker 6: five million. I would have that conversation when it comes

493
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Speaker 6: to these little things, but that's the overall concept of

494
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Speaker 6: not paying him, the concept of not paying him at

495
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Speaker 6: all and doing the MICA and trading him somewhere else.

496
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Speaker 3: No, that's all part of conversation we had when we

497
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Speaker 3: pulled in and talked about it is this you?

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want it?

499
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Speaker 3: You know, even when I mentor people, I ask him

500
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Speaker 3: real tough is before we get started to say so, Nick,

501
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 3: you want to be good, you want to be great?

502
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Speaker 3: You wanna be average because it's different level of commitment

503
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Speaker 3: to alogy. Yes, And so you asked, George, what is

504
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Speaker 3: it that you really want? And I'm not judging you

505
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Speaker 3: just tell.

506
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Speaker 2: Me once again, in a seventeen game season, you're not

507
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: gonna have seventeen great games. There's gonna be some games

508
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Speaker 2: you look up to. And this was I mean, look,

509
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, who all of us here at the table

510
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Speaker 2: respect and like he got seventeen great ones. This happens,

511
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: This happens. Does it happen again? It's the first thing.

512
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: You know, how does he respond? And this is something

513
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: along the way you kind of go through all of

514
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: you have significant others. There's gonna be a bumping the road, right.

515
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sometimes you cut them though.

516
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Speaker 7: Hold Travis Kelsey said he and Tylor Swift have never fought.

517
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Speaker 2: You're you're a little harsher. You're you're you're Bobby Bobby

518
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: Knight type coach. Jack Taylor a little bit different.

519
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Speaker 4: She didn't get the contract.

520
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Speaker 2: You may come with that. John wouldn't love look at

521
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: the pyramid of success, this kind of thing you might

522
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: have had John Thompson with the towel. He just told her,

523
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Speaker 2: you know so, But when with them, theory has some though.

524
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: But George Pickens helps you and at least you go

525
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 2: back to last year where you were with CD into Maybies.

526
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Speaker 2: I'll live with this. If this is what I have

527
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: to live with, I'll do that.

528
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Speaker 7: Yeah. It probably just is the most. The reason it

529
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 7: probably got the spotlight it did is because it's national television.

530
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 7: It's when the Margins have reached no room for air

531
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Speaker 7: and you still had guys like Ryan Flinoy out there

532
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 7: torching their secondary and it's like man, yeah, right right,

533
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 7: And so I think the feeling is like, man, it

534
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 7: feels like if you would have been locked in, this

535
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 7: could have been a completely different ballgame. But like I

536
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 7: felt like that may have been the difference in what ultimately,

537
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 7: especially after the Chargers loss on Monday after the Eagles,

538
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 7: now looks like, man, you that effort issue on a

539
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 7: couple of snaps, even if it's just one time, Like

540
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Speaker 7: that's why it can't be even one time, Like you

541
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 7: got to lock in and that has I'm sure that's

542
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 7: the message from shot and learn from it.

543
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: So I go back into this game and I'm like, Okay,

544
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: I got more concerns about what the heck Cavante Turpin's

545
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: doing on these punts and Jake Ferguson now a couple

546
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: weeks in Row, what you just giving up the ball?

547
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm now seeing this in consecutive weeks where these are

548
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: mistakes that we just can't have. You can have a

549
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 2: one off week, you know, all of us have a

550
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: one off week. You know, it happens, It happens, Does

551
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: it happen again? This is what we'll see. But right now,

552
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: if I'm looking at this team, I'm like, Okay, George

553
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Pickens issue or is it. Ferguson here giving up the

554
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: ball two weeks in a row is a cavante On

555
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: putt return, Like, dude, do you know what?

556
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Speaker 7: Yes, it's me, all of it. It is all of it,

557
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 7: isn't it? Like wouldn't we say it like it's yes?

558
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 7: But you're right, if we're gonna talk about pickings like that,

559
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 7: you also should be talking about Jake Ferguson. You had

560
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 7: zero fumbles in your first thirty five career games. You

561
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 7: have seven in your last twenty five. Cavante Turpin, you

562
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 7: have two fair catch penalties in eighteen days, the two

563
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 7: two hundred days before the entire NFL had one. Like,

564
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 7: you're doing things that absolutely should not be done, the

565
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 7: sort of stuff that should send you to the bench.

566
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 7: So I agree, I don't think it necessarily means. I

567
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 7: think we need to be careful about extrapolating how we're

568
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 7: talking about Pickens as like, here's some long term takeaways

569
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 7: from one week. I think it had definitely seasoned implication

570
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 7: to his issues the other night. But then it also

571
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 7: needs to be talked about in the same way with

572
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 7: Kevanti Turpin. You also put us in a bad hole.

573
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 7: Jake person, you put us in a bad hole like

574
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 7: those sort of things. Absolutely, Still, they gave.

575
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 6: Up two hundred and sixty one yards on kickoffs. That's

576
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Speaker 6: the fourth most in the last decade in the NFL.

577
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 7: Nate Thomas gave up eleven pressures the other night. That's bad.

578
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Speaker 2: This is a Detroit team with a whole bunch of

579
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Speaker 2: question marks and they came out they got forty four

580
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: points on you. I mean, there's a whole there's a

581
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: whole lot of issues going on Thursday, but obviously the

582
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 2: chomp from Richard Sherman to just eat up on George

583
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Speaker 2: Pickens in kirk kurb Street that they put that folk

584
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Speaker 2: like we're gonna nail this guy. There's a lot of

585
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: other issues out there. And for me, one of the

586
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: things I'm like, okay, Matt Ebrif was what were we doing?

587
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, how far they played coverage off the receivers.

588
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: To me, Robert Saint Brown should have been jam up here,

589
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: you got a bad egg. Let's see something what you

590
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: got here and what we do nui And that's why

591
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: you went home. Ang. For some reason, Detroit, Detroit takes

592
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: eebra flutes right around the backyard and just takes him apart.

593
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: But but they didn't see that defense for several years.

594
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Speaker 2: I've just I just I just saw a lot of

595
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm just not George picking on. George Pickings

596
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: was a good clickbait, and that's what got people going

597
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: no more than Dak had a bad game and and

598
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: you know you hear Shady McCoy and people like that go.

599
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: Off on because we wouldn't be talking about Kioff covers

600
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Speaker 6: for six days.

601
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Speaker 2: No, no, not no, no, But oh I don't pay

602
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: he's you know, to make it sound like this man

603
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: is a dog performer, he's been a dog and he's

604
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: gonna stay.

605
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: That's that was how I took it.

606
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, I disagree.

607
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Speaker 7: With Yeah, I guess I'm trying to think of somebody

608
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 7: else who has a stereotypical issue throughout the NFL. Just

609
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 7: take any players jamarant for instance, if John Morant goes

610
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 7: somewhere and has a great year and for the very

611
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Speaker 7: first time, John Morant all of a sudden has an

612
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 7: issue confronting a teenager in a park outside of it,

613
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 7: it's just one time, but people go, uh yeah, but

614
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 7: this was something that people talked about with him previously,

615
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 7: so I think that that's probably why I got so

616
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 7: much intensity with Pickings, because people are like, we're not

617
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 7: sliding back into bad habits? Are we these bad habits

618
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 7: that got you out of Pittsburgh?

619
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Speaker 10: Right?

620
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: And he still has more production than the whole basic

621
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Speaker 2: stealer receiver.

622
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm taking That's why I said I'm taking him.

623
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 7: But but I do think just kind of pulled back

624
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 7: and on like, hey, this isn't like a we're not

625
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 7: backsliding here, right. I think that's a fair thing to

626
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 7: just ask out loud of like, hey, should we just

627
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 7: make sure you're locked in? Right?

628
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: It feels like a cable news topic where they just

629
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: jump on something politically and we just stay on the

630
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: stand like, you know, what really is this? Is this

631
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: that big a deal? You know, you get to make

632
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: it into what you want to. I just don't think

633
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: it was. I think it was a little bit overblown.

634
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: Now does it happen two weeks in a row? Then three?

635
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: Does this prevent you from you know, tradinishing these final four?

636
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Then yeah, that can happen. But one game, I mean look,

637
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: two games ago shot he was saved by sea, Hey,

638
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: by ste some dumb decisions. But the team saved him.

639
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: Nobody's saying you up man, It's got get coach good.

640
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: He got the benefit of the doubt. It's just interesting,

641
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: once again, who we choose to forgive and who we

642
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: choose to condemn when we come back. What's your biggest

643
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: concern about the tackle position going forward? Here as the

644
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645
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840
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646
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Speaker 2: fall apart, we'll do that next right here on the

647
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Speaker 2: getting in the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, man good and getting Michigan's coach fired.

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Speaker 2: Yes, breaking news from young Nick Harris, says Adam Schefter, reporting.

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Speaker 7: They better be careful who they want to drag.

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Speaker 8: Hm.

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Speaker 3: You know, set for cause because he know where all

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Speaker 2: Them, which means if they're going to fire him for cause,

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Speaker 2: he's going to bring out lawyers. Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's kinda gett nasty.

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Speaker 2: And he's coming. He's coming. Nobody just decides, and you

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Speaker 2: have no agent because you want your feet. Nobody's gonna

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Speaker 2: let you just fire a coach like that because that

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Speaker 2: you know, they want their multimillions but okay.

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Speaker 4: Ninety percent chance a hiring Brian Kelly. By the way,

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Speaker 4: it just feels too right.

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Speaker 7: They also tried to fire for costs.

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Speaker 4: That just feels too right.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter Indiana runs that league anyway.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the double what is the big

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Speaker 7: ten outside of the Indian Hoosiers?

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Speaker 3: Hey man, you know google him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, google him?

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Speaker 7: Google boy. That was the most sounded like the most

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Speaker 7: arrogant thing ever when he said at that press conference

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Speaker 7: and all he's done ever since, that's just show you

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Speaker 7: to prove everybody right he's he.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was greatness.

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Speaker 7: He shut Paul fire and bal down.

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Speaker 2: I did like how Urban May tried to shake Kirk

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Speaker 2: Signette's hand on the set after the Big twelve championship came.

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Speaker 2: They just looked at him. I like, Petty. We know

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Speaker 2: Petty is good. We know that nobody likes Petty like

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Speaker 2: you and Clarence Hill.

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Speaker 10: Boy.

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Speaker 3: Yoall now, don't don't excuse yourself from this compensation.

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Speaker 2: I've learned from you. But you guys are older than me.

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Speaker 2: I've hung around these guys long enough, and Nick, you

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Speaker 2: know you see, if you want to hang out hang

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Speaker 2: with these guys, you got to be able to return Bobby.

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Speaker 2: But now Bobby Bell specializes in it too.

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Speaker 3: By the way, while you're bull joy but then takes

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Speaker 3: his long.

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Speaker 7: I mean it was very my petty's quiet?

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Speaker 6: Is it his petty will be something that happens and

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Speaker 6: you never know it came from him.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you my best quiet, Petty when we get

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Speaker 7: off there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, goes all right?

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Speaker 2: Cowboys taking on the Minnesota Viking Sunday at ger World

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Speaker 2: game is on NBC. Tyler Goydon.

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Speaker 3: Never thought he looks so good to that said, Nate Thomas,

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Speaker 3: give up eleven precious.

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Speaker 2: Nate Thomas is your other starting left tackle, Terrence Steels

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Speaker 2: your starting right tackle. Guys, Cowboys have four games that

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Speaker 2: they really need to win them all and get some

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Speaker 2: help from the Eagles to win this thing. But are

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Speaker 2: the tackles going to be a possible reasons why they

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Speaker 2: get held back a little bit? Here?

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Speaker 6: I hate to start this conversation with like a slight sidebar.

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Speaker 6: You can't tell me, awesome Richards wasn't worse than Nate Thomas,

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Speaker 6: or was worse than Nate Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I I was fan awesome Richard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I didn't never get that one.

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Speaker 6: And I understand wanting to develop the young guy, but

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Speaker 6: Austome was young in his own right. But nevertheless, I

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Speaker 6: mean this, uh, this Vikings defensive front. What Brian Flores

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Speaker 6: is gonna throw at this offensive line from a blitz

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Speaker 6: package standpoint? These boys better be ready. Oh there's Tyler

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Speaker 6: Guyden Nate Thomas. Guiden wasn't on the practice field today,

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Speaker 6: So at least it's starting the week looking like Thomas

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Speaker 6: might might go again. But you know you're gonna need

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Speaker 6: to see guiding on the practice field. But yeah, these tackles,

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Speaker 6: they've been really bad and it's got you wondering if

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Speaker 6: you need to take a tackle early in this draft again.

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Speaker 4: And that's uh, that's tough reality.

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Speaker 7: There was some there was some chatter a couple of

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Speaker 7: weeks ago, people going, oh, should should Nate Thomas beer

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Speaker 7: you're starting left tackle? And that was the first thing

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Speaker 7: I thought leaving the lines game was like, I don't

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Speaker 7: want to hear that discussion anymore because Tyler Goeyton. Look,

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Speaker 7: it's not always pretty with Tyler Goeyton. The last month

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Speaker 7: or so, Geiiton's been he gets it done. It's not

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Speaker 7: teach tape like this is terrible. But the way I've

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Speaker 7: he's swimming, like is he is.

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Speaker 4: He is okay, Yeah, he stayed up.

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Speaker 7: He's making Yeah, yeah, he's making. He passes it. He

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Speaker 7: it does not look technically beautiful, but he fights and

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Speaker 7: he plays nasty and like, I'll give him credit for that,

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Speaker 7: and he's he's done a really good job. One of

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Speaker 7: the things that Mazie Smith that doomed him here as

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Speaker 7: the first round pick was he started hanging his head.

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Speaker 7: When you start hanging your head when things go poorly

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Speaker 7: early on in your career, that has doomed so many

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Speaker 7: guys are Tristan Hill, Taco Charles, and Mazzie Smith. Tyler

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Speaker 7: Geyton was at a point last year where it's like,

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Speaker 7: is he going to hang his head? And if he did,

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Speaker 7: if he dropped his head, it's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 7: He didn't fought through it. Has managed to stay encouraged

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Speaker 7: and not let that get him down, and I think

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Speaker 7: that's why he's been able to kind of come out

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Speaker 7: the other side and play okay. Steele was not good

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Speaker 7: the other day. Steel has been good enough consistently in

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Speaker 7: the run game that to me, it's like, I know

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Speaker 7: going to tie this up if everybody's healthy to meet

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Speaker 7: his guiding and Steel, But it is enough to make

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Speaker 7: you wonder, like how much extra help do I need

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Speaker 7: to Does Javonte need to be chipping somebody on the

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Speaker 7: way out? Do I need to have an extra tight

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Speaker 7: end in there picking some stuff up? Because it's it

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Speaker 7: can be an issue at times.

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Speaker 4: Practice sport just came out officially.

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Speaker 6: Tyler Guiden did not practice along with Malie Hooker, who

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Speaker 6: was dealing with a personal issue today.

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Speaker 4: Only two that did not practice, though, what is a pozzan.

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Speaker 2: That? To me? When I started to think about where

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Speaker 2: things are going for the Cowboys in these last four games,

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Speaker 2: You're going to have to get better play from your

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Speaker 2: offensive line. It was very clear in the in the

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Speaker 2: game against Detroit that you you weren't where you needed

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Speaker 2: to be. Nick, you bring up a good point about

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Speaker 2: what Brian Flores can do defensively. Then after that it's

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Speaker 2: a home game against the Chargers that you've got coming up,

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Speaker 2: and then you got into the season with two road games,

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Speaker 2: uh Christmas night in Washington, and uh then you get

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Speaker 2: the Giants in the season. But you've got to you

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Speaker 2: got to be better. And yes, they scored thirty three

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Speaker 2: got to be better. Yeah, And I'm i'm i'm I'm

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Speaker 2: concerned on the offensive line about just where they're going

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Speaker 2: because these two next these next two games, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: these are gonna be pretty there's gonna be too two

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Speaker 2: pretty good uh defensive lines and you know things you

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Speaker 2: got to go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't want to have to do this. But

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Speaker 7: the one solid here, silver lining in order going This

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Speaker 7: year has been Dak's best season. When you talk about

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Speaker 7: just being able to feel the rush, make a little

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Speaker 7: slides stuff, he's getting to that veteran point that a

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Speaker 7: lot of these guys do around the stage of like

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Speaker 7: and you know how to avoid the rush, step up,

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Speaker 7: make a throw, so he's able to neutralize them. That

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Speaker 7: Micah Parson's getting thirty pressures against them or whatever he

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Speaker 7: got when when he came to down but not really

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Speaker 7: getting to Dak at any point. It was just an

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Speaker 7: example of Dak going how to maneuver the pocket, no

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Speaker 7: matter how much guys were struggling. So I think, if

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Speaker 7: you can get some chips in there and you can

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Speaker 7: kind of slow some things down, Dak is playing at

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Speaker 7: a level hopefully where that is not going to be

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Speaker 7: as big of a.

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Speaker 2: Blinking quarterback and help hide some words.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you hope that would be the hope.

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Speaker 2: Cover up the wars. Okay, very interesting here, but this

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Speaker 2: is a game. Was a Vega's got six and a half?

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Speaker 2: I thought, anyway, just I get scared.

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Speaker 3: That's a big spread.

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Speaker 2: I get. I get scared.

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Speaker 3: JJ who's playing quarterback?

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Michigan Gang.

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Speaker 7: If it's six and a half, it's McCarthy. If it's Brosener,

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Speaker 7: it might be twenty six and a half.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I go back into this, you know,

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Speaker 2: once again, I start looking at that and I got

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Speaker 2: fooled by Arizona. So tired of getting fooled the.

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Speaker 3: Game that ultimately is cost these fellas. It's not Carolina's

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Speaker 3: not Chicago, it's Arizona, which ain't one says they came

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Speaker 3: here in one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one, and they might be looking for

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Speaker 2: a new head coach after the season. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's a bad thing going out there in Arizona right here.

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Speaker 2: But you just can't lose. You can't lose these kind

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Speaker 2: of games. And but more available.

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Speaker 3: He's offensive mine.

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Speaker 2: Stop stop the buck it's not the buck eye. Pettiness man,

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Speaker 2: Stop the buck eye pettiness man.

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Speaker 3: This is a sad day.

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Speaker 2: We liked them, you know, we go. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: end the show.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I state fans are more upset.

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Speaker 2: Man Man is unemployed and you know, life changing.

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Speaker 3: That just got you got to show you this text

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Speaker 3: that jokes out here.

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Speaker 2: Nick, Bobby Jacques, I'm new he Chris produced. This is

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Speaker 2: a media ashal Dallas Cowboy Stacking.

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