Speaker 1: Hello, what's up therapy cable?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: What's your name? Good sir?
Speaker 1: Uh? My name is Willy.
Speaker 3: Willy.
Speaker 1: Yes, so w I Willy.
Speaker 3: What's up Willy?
Speaker 4: How you doing today today?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty doing pretty well today. We'll not too bad,
Speaker 1: but they honestly, well, it's well gish, but you know, Saturday,
Speaker 1: not too bad.
Speaker 3: How I feeling today? Am I cool? Am I blessed?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I should be right, I should be I
Speaker 4: think I should be blessed. I'm too I'm I think
Speaker 4: I'm coming to the realization that I'm just I'm just
Speaker 4: a neurotic guy. And I've wondered, I'm like, can I
Speaker 4: change that about myself? Can I become a different thing
Speaker 4: than who I am?
Speaker 5: Or am?
Speaker 3: I just kind of.
Speaker 4: Bound because I was looking through journals that I'd written
Speaker 4: like seven years ago, and truthfully, the way that my
Speaker 4: brain operates and the way that the things I've wanted
Speaker 4: out of life and the way in which I've operated
Speaker 4: in life have actually remained relatively consistent over the past,
Speaker 4: like as long as I've you know, even been keeping
Speaker 4: records of those things, and even you know, before the
Speaker 4: records I think about, you know, when I was a
Speaker 4: child and whatnot. And I've always been adventurous and entrepreneurial
Speaker 4: and deeply neurotic and anxious.
Speaker 3: And part of me thinks if I've been that way my.
Speaker 4: Whole life, I think I think might be that way forever.
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's been both a blessing and a curse to me.
Speaker 4: And like you know, I mean I I've thought about
Speaker 4: like my life before and after starting this podcast, and
Speaker 4: you know, I'll read journals from twenty nineteen, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm anxious. And I think if you had told me
Speaker 4: writing those journals in twenty nineteen that externally, a lot
Speaker 4: of the things that you're anxious about won't be present, right,
Speaker 4: they won't be present. You would think, Okay, that's where
Speaker 4: the anxiety stops. But then I'll read a journal from
Speaker 4: a week ago, and the anxiety is still there.
Speaker 3: It's so I think that.
Speaker 4: I might just have this kind of permanent neurotic personality
Speaker 4: that I would like to learn how to mitigate.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know if it's possible.
Speaker 4: I don't know if people just kind of are the
Speaker 4: way that they are, or if they can I think
Speaker 4: a lot of things have evolved, but yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: been a very consistent way. So that's that's my answer
Speaker 4: to how I'm doing and what I'm thinking about. If
Speaker 4: you wanted the honest answer from me.
Speaker 1: Hey I did honest, sweet, that was pretty I don't
Speaker 1: very straightforward to the answer. I like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and journal and doon like doing the journal thing. I
Speaker 1: don't journal people that tell me to things like that,
Speaker 1: but hire listening and I've been listening for you for
Speaker 1: a while now, and like setting people journal as well,
Speaker 1: and you like, I never got the like the concept
Speaker 1: of actually like journaling your thoughts out people. People say
Speaker 1: it helps things like that, which I see it does
Speaker 1: for you as well. And I'm like like like like
Speaker 1: what like like what type of things that actually want
Speaker 1: to need?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 1: Like, it's like it's the journal. Is the journal there
Speaker 1: for just for it, like for your help, that's it.
Speaker 1: Write down your thoughts, you'll you'll your fears and ship
Speaker 1: your fears and shit like that. You know, I never
Speaker 1: get right by the grasp of the whole conflict is
Speaker 1: writing it down? You know.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll well I'm sorry, no, no, well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 4: I I mean I usually I use my notes app
Speaker 4: and I just uh put the date and I just
Speaker 4: let it rip. And a lot of the times I
Speaker 4: use it for like kind of getting all my thoughts
Speaker 4: out there, and I also use it for like recording events,
Speaker 4: like you know, here's what happens to me, and here's
Speaker 4: how I'm feeling about it, and here's I Also, I
Speaker 4: slightly believe in manifestation in the sense of like what
Speaker 4: you constantly think about it becomes how you act through
Speaker 4: the world, and how you act through the world kind
Speaker 4: of uh, you know, does inform your external reality. So
Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of manifestation in there
Speaker 4: of like consistently kind of writing down the things that
Speaker 4: you want in the directions that you want to go down.
Speaker 4: I mean, have you ever have you ever tried sitting
Speaker 4: down to journal?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I tried it. I tried everyone. I
Speaker 1: try like every once in a while, you know, when
Speaker 1: when when things become like a little bit overwhelming in
Speaker 1: my life and something like that, and like it it.
Speaker 5: It helps, But at the same time, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 5: like i feel like I'm just right back where I
Speaker 5: was at first when I get them, when I before
Speaker 5: I jiggled and down stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, but then again like on the backhand, it's works,
Speaker 1: you know, It's just it helps a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit, not too much, but a little bit.
Speaker 4: What what you're what you're describing is my general frustration
Speaker 4: with both therapy and journaling, which is like, great, I
Speaker 4: talked about all this, but you know, I'm still fucking here,
Speaker 4: you know, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So I understand.
Speaker 4: I understand that frustration, but I think it's been better.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did it. I helps me, especially because
Speaker 4: I've done it over like a long period of time,
Speaker 4: I can kind of recognize patterns. And also, you, I
Speaker 4: think you kind of tend to look at life through
Speaker 4: rose colored glasses or you know, look at yeah, look
Speaker 4: at like previous times in your life. When you journal,
Speaker 4: you get to see every You get to see your
Speaker 4: life for what it really is. Because I can go
Speaker 4: I can think, oh, maybe a year ago I was
Speaker 4: doing this, I was happier, I was feeling this way.
Speaker 4: But then you go back and you read the journal
Speaker 4: and you're like, well, actually, in that very moment I was.
Speaker 3: I was feeling.
Speaker 4: Not as good as I look back upon the memory,
Speaker 4: and it also works differently.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: You can you can look back at like times when
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, that fucking sucked, but then be like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe it wasn't as bad as I thought it was
Speaker 4: because I have the actual recording of my emotions in
Speaker 4: that period of time.
Speaker 1: See not so no so now so now now you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to go back on my concruiter. I
Speaker 1: see what's like, I had a couple I say, a
Speaker 1: year are you I'm sorry? A year or two ago?
Speaker 1: You know, got me thinking about that I might do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like cause two years ago or
Speaker 1: a year ago I was a high probably you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, got me thinking about that.
Speaker 4: Man, I I like, will Willie let me ask you something? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, I've been kind of rambling and using this
Speaker 4: podcast for therapy, which is a funny thing to do.
Speaker 4: But is there anything in particular that you called in
Speaker 4: to want to talk about today? If not, it's cool,
Speaker 4: we can just shoot the ship.
Speaker 1: I see, Because Okay, when I first tried to call
Speaker 1: you the first time, like everyone else on this bonus
Speaker 1: platform for you know, I was what I was going
Speaker 1: through a rough patch in my life at that moment,
Speaker 1: which is which I'm still is. But well I'm not well,
Speaker 1: not really but kind of you know, And I was
Speaker 1: trying to call it in, you know, just get some
Speaker 1: not feedback or well feedback or just like some clarification
Speaker 1: shing like that, or just let that shout out, you know.
Speaker 1: But now I'm doing pretty okay. And when I say
Speaker 1: pretty okay, I mean like health wives, you know, no,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just health wives and say that just
Speaker 1: health stuff like that. Because two years ago, I was
Speaker 1: two years ago, I got diagnosed with i l D.
Speaker 1: And il D is a instant I can into the
Speaker 1: work correctly, ancesticial lung disease, which I believe it would.
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it would runs it. I
Speaker 1: believe it would run in my family because my sister
Speaker 1: had it and she had got a transplant and now
Speaker 1: she's doing okay with it without option. But now I
Speaker 1: have it, and I'm an option at this moment. Twenty
Speaker 1: four seven, and that was and I got diagnosed with
Speaker 1: that two years ago. But h h, I say a
Speaker 1: year ago, Well, yeah, a year ago. Now I'm still
Speaker 1: doing it, which is kind of fucking wild to me,
Speaker 1: because they had progress to where it's like and like
Speaker 1: like like like like fucking uh and reversible, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? I thought I was doing everything I was.
Speaker 1: I thought I was doing everything I was supposed to
Speaker 1: be doing, you know, but looked like I wasn't. So
Speaker 1: now I'm so now I'm here, uh a lung disease
Speaker 1: h off writers blood clock and blood blood cloud and
Speaker 1: the lungs, Like the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 1: Then diabetes on top of that I ain't having at first,
Speaker 1: but when I left the hospital, I'm that shit craziest
Speaker 1: for then. Now I'm just sitting here for you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just chilling, trying to see what was going on.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a little bit exercises every once in a
Speaker 1: while with tu longs to going to physical therapy, not
Speaker 1: going to therapy theory, but like you know, primonary therapy
Speaker 1: type ship do you feel me? And but but at
Speaker 1: this moment, I'm doing pretty okay and like, but like
Speaker 1: it can be draining. It can be draining, like just mentally,
Speaker 1: like emotionally like that because you will see all these
Speaker 1: stories about people you know, recovering being don't recovering and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like they'd be like, ah, these
Speaker 1: five years to live. I'm like, how the fuck is
Speaker 1: five years to live? And I was like, had got
Speaker 1: ten years and they dealt with this whole thing. I'm
Speaker 1: just chilling. I'm like, oh, okay, cool, cool, whatever. Now
Speaker 1: I just found this woman on Instagram where you know
Speaker 1: she's doing She's doing pretty well, but she's an option.
Speaker 1: She had the same she has the same thing I have,
Speaker 1: but like a little bit probably a little bit more probably,
Speaker 1: but she's off her pills and stuff like that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, but she's still a oxygen and she's on
Speaker 1: a list for a launch transplay, which they have suggested
Speaker 1: that to me, and I'm like, yeah, i don't want
Speaker 1: to do that, even though I've seen the effects, which
Speaker 1: is the effects is okay, you know, the whole thing
Speaker 1: with it, it's okay. It's just the fact that I
Speaker 1: have to like go through a certain period of where
Speaker 1: someone has to cut me open trip put a whole
Speaker 1: new set of loans in me, and you for me,
Speaker 1: I have to rebreathe again, which I'm trying to rebreathe now,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me.
Speaker 4: You're learning, you're learning how to rebreathe.
Speaker 1: Basically. Yeah, So it's like, okay, so you know how
Speaker 1: you like, you don't even know it, but you do it,
Speaker 1: like you walk in and talk here. Yeah yeah, you're
Speaker 1: like you walking and talking and it don't pay no
Speaker 1: mass to it, right right, you know when when you
Speaker 1: walk in and it's like it ain't nothing. But with
Speaker 1: like with me, I have to I have to constantly
Speaker 1: focus on breathing basically, not the constantly, but like I
Speaker 1: have to like basically take take take steps a little
Speaker 1: bit slower than usual people take it, you know, because
Speaker 1: at one point you will be at one point you
Speaker 1: will be just chill. You be at one point you
Speaker 1: will be just chilling, walk at your stroller the lord. Nextly,
Speaker 1: you know, your option dropped to like eighty damn are
Speaker 1: seventy five? I don't I don't even want to go
Speaker 1: that five. I'm gonna say eighty five, you know, spouts
Speaker 1: and drop to eight eighty five You don't even know it,
Speaker 1: but you could feel your heart rate and you have.
Speaker 1: Then then you can hear like your brother breathing mad
Speaker 1: heavy and stuff like that. Then you'll start to feel
Speaker 1: light here and I'm like, what is going on? So
Speaker 1: so that's like that you know, some like people with
Speaker 1: you know lungs that have like full capacity of five.
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay, even even when they're talking, they
Speaker 1: had a ninety five. So I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I understand that part. Then like then they then they
Speaker 1: put you in well the partonary theory where you could
Speaker 1: build your lungs back up. They vide your lungs back up,
Speaker 1: you know, which they consist of a premire walking viking. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see breathing in and out, you know, doing exercises,
Speaker 1: like doing breathing exercises one. Uh, just on you're like
Speaker 1: just like sitting up straight, work and leaving inside to side,
Speaker 1: breathing like over your over the orange type ship, you know,
Speaker 1: breathing like like like they try to open and like
Speaker 1: your lungs up a little bit more like stretch it,
Speaker 1: like to stretch your chests basically. So like that's what like,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to breathe again. That's that's that's what
Speaker 1: I mean basically, And now I'm doing pretty good. You know.
Speaker 1: It's a cruise struggles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how crazy learning how to breathe. You know,
Speaker 4: it's crazy how many things we just do that we
Speaker 4: don't even like think about, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right, you know, and it's kind of wild to
Speaker 1: me because at first, you know, I was like partying,
Speaker 1: you know, smoking, drinking all this stuff. I drink every
Speaker 1: once in a while, but not like you know, heavy
Speaker 1: like I was before. You know, when I said I
Speaker 1: was drinking, I was drinking healthy. God damnum, what were
Speaker 1: you brought an alcoholics?
Speaker 3: What were you doing when you were partying?
Speaker 1: Like like not okay, okay, not not too crazy for me,
Speaker 1: just like we a little bit posh every once in
Speaker 1: a while. Like uh, when I say posh, I mean
Speaker 1: like the eat cigarettes and ship like that. You know,
Speaker 1: the key with all that shit I want like I
Speaker 1: want doing crack cocaine, no hearing, no fucking fucking psychedelics,
Speaker 1: which I want what I did once before. I did
Speaker 1: a psychedelics once before. But I so not that I was
Speaker 1: so cool.
Speaker 4: So Willy, let me ask well, let me ask you
Speaker 4: a few things.
Speaker 3: Are you Are you still partying at all?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: What's your I actually, here's what I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 4: It is like who are you, Willy? What's your what's
Speaker 4: your what's your life?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Where do you? What do you do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: What part of what part of town do you live in?
Speaker 4: You know, what's what's the day in Willy's life?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, they will life. Okay, what I do right
Speaker 1: now currently unemployed? You know, fucking the government. If you
Speaker 1: ask me, I am h and I'm trying to well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to edit videos ship for YouTube, which I'll
Speaker 1: go off and on with that on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: on a daily day basis, try to scream, try to
Speaker 1: stream on Twitch and stuff like that. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back into it, but I'll go
Speaker 1: away for a couple of days, for a couple of months.
Speaker 3: What do you what do you make? What do you
Speaker 3: make videos about?
Speaker 1: Basically like just you know gaming gaming videos like uh, Overwatch,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Call of Duty, Valeriant, you know, all
Speaker 1: like type like type shooting games.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: New games. I just uh just just played. It's called
Speaker 1: the Shadow of War. It's like, what's the name game?
Speaker 1: It's like a.
Speaker 5: Board.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like the Lord of the Rings game. It's
Speaker 1: like that, but it's not that, but I still had
Speaker 1: the same concept of that. You know, it's called Shadows
Speaker 1: of War. Pretty good. It came out on the PS
Speaker 1: four by have it on the PS five and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of loving it right now. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a one player game, you know, single player game.
Speaker 1: Pretty fucking nice, loving it. I'm playing that ship not
Speaker 1: daily no more, because I kind of reached I kind
Speaker 1: of reached a level where I want to be up
Speaker 1: to fucking control oak orcs and shit like that. So
Speaker 1: I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, okay, go ahead, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So if I ain't doing that, I'm basically taking walks,
Speaker 1: taking walks every once in a while, going through going
Speaker 1: to like tell a doctor's appointments and ship like that,
Speaker 1: right for fucking like yeah, for my lungs, yeah for yeah,
Speaker 1: for for auto the moon auto mune disease. I probably
Speaker 1: have that too, But they ain't. They ain't coming around
Speaker 1: to that. They still trying to figure out what the
Speaker 1: fuck this will shit is. So, you know, boom, uh.
Speaker 1: If I ain't doing that going to doctor's appointments and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, h you know, chilling partying, I ain't
Speaker 1: doing too much of that. I'm just chilling at home
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, chilling out home in Chicago, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to see what the next step is for me.
Speaker 1: What's the best bet? Yeah, what's the best that I
Speaker 1: could do for myself my lungs.
Speaker 3: So what is what is that? What is that pondering?
Speaker 6: M hm?
Speaker 3: Where has it led to you? What is the best
Speaker 3: bet for you?
Speaker 1: The best bet right now? I feel that.
Speaker 5: Just like.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, let it be like, the best bet
Speaker 1: right now for me is to go with the float
Speaker 1: like sit still, don't do like, don't don't do too much,
Speaker 1: but do enough where you're not fucking miserable. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not depressed, you're not sad type ship. You know,
Speaker 1: don't yeah, don't wait from yeah, Yeah, that's for me.
Speaker 1: You know I can't. I can I'm sorry. I can't
Speaker 1: just sit now and just not do nothing anymore. At
Speaker 1: first I did. At first, I did that. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 1: I was hell of the press. I'm talking. When I
Speaker 1: say hell with the person, I mean hell of the press. Ye,
Speaker 1: like I ain't like I want to say, not shower
Speaker 1: probably like I'll take a shower every once once once
Speaker 1: a week type ship. You know, Uh, don't sit in
Speaker 1: my room. I don't sit down my room no more.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm out. I'm trying to get out, trying
Speaker 1: to get out about even when I have a seat
Speaker 1: ass option taint. I'm trying to get out and about.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to keep it moving, you know,
Speaker 1: hcause right now, like at first, it was it was
Speaker 1: like it was it was when I found out that news.
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was tellous that, you know,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do nothing no more. I couldn't eat the
Speaker 1: food that I won't eat no more. Well I could,
Speaker 1: but it gonna it gonna trying to lead down to
Speaker 1: the fuck up problems. But yeah, I can't do that
Speaker 1: no more. Which I still do a little bit, but
Speaker 1: not too much. I have a I have a buzz
Speaker 1: ball every once in a while, not too much, but you.
Speaker 6: Know, a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just like like going, going, going
Speaker 1: with the flow. Was talking about you know in dalven Lin.
Speaker 1: I an't gonna need a fucking h They said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need a lung transport.
Speaker 4: Yeah mm hm.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't want it, but if it
Speaker 1: has to, I'll come down to it. And I'm like
Speaker 1: only twenty seven, right, yeah, and I sell. And I
Speaker 1: see a lot of people come in and out of
Speaker 1: like uh of the of the rehab center, you know,
Speaker 1: or prim and every center. I guess for your lung
Speaker 1: story that I see a lot of people come out
Speaker 1: of there. You know, they don't get me wrong. They
Speaker 1: look they look pretty cool, they look okay, they look happy,
Speaker 1: they up and they moving. I see something. I see
Speaker 1: people in wheelchairs that's not moving at all. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, they still like the smell. They
Speaker 1: still too. I'm like, what not the fuck I gotta
Speaker 1: be said for right now? Why the fuck? Like I
Speaker 1: can't I can't do it.
Speaker 6: I can't do nothing else.
Speaker 1: So wait, you know, if ship, if shit get worse
Speaker 1: than what I'm doing, ship, God, damn, I can't do
Speaker 1: nothing but take my medicine, keep it moving. And that's
Speaker 1: all you know I have because I have to figure
Speaker 1: that out for a while. And like people was asking me,
Speaker 1: oh you at well, I've seen you wild. You don't
Speaker 1: come around no more? Or like, uh, will you don't
Speaker 1: to me? You don't come, you don't come and hang
Speaker 1: out with us no more. You don't drink with us
Speaker 1: no more? Why is that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Willie, I ain't see you in a game
Speaker 1: no more? Like because man, I'm trying to like, I'll
Speaker 1: be gone for like I say, tax months tops and
Speaker 1: trying to get my I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 1: wrap my head a lot of like like just trying
Speaker 1: to wrap my head a lot around like a lot
Speaker 1: of ship, you know, and like some people understand it.
Speaker 1: Some people don't, don't, get me wrong. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, like when I feel like when life is
Speaker 1: you like that, I just you have I feel like
Speaker 1: people you have to step away and re evaluate yourself
Speaker 1: for a bit, because that's that's and that's what I did.
Speaker 1: You know. I still I steel step away too. I
Speaker 1: still step away from time to time, but because at times,
Speaker 1: you know, it do get hard, they do. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, mm.
Speaker 4: Hmm, yo, really no, it's I was I listened, Will,
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I appreciate you sharing all this
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know it's definitely, uh, you know, an inspiring thing
Speaker 4: to fucking keep going after all, uh, you know, after
Speaker 4: having to learn how to rebreathe I will, I'll say
Speaker 4: this man before we go. Uh. Do you want to
Speaker 4: give a plug out to your to your YouTube or
Speaker 4: to your twitch?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yes, my twitch is Wilster tv w I L L
Speaker 1: L S t E R W I L l S
Speaker 1: t E R Capital TV on the score on Twitch.
Speaker 3: Wilster underscore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go. I got you your Wilster t V. Oh,
Speaker 4: this is your Twitter. Let's see what's going on on
Speaker 4: your Twitter. I don't know why I'm just sub scrolling
Speaker 4: to your Twitter now that you got some wild things
Speaker 4: on Twitter, it's not that well all right here, I'm
Speaker 4: on your Yeah. Look, I'm on your I'm on your
Speaker 4: YouTube right now while you're playing Overwatch. I've never played Overwatch,
Speaker 4: never played it. I'm not a big I'm not a
Speaker 4: big like I don't. I don't play like online multiplayer
Speaker 4: games except like I play Melee on slippy but that's it.
Speaker 4: I don't really play like a Fortnite or Overach or anything.
Speaker 3: But okay, I'll give you a follow.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a follow on the twitch in case
Speaker 4: if you're ever live when I'm live, we'll give you
Speaker 4: a raid.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's all pretty cool, man.
Speaker 6: Very cool.
Speaker 4: Well ship will uh will stir TV underscore. Man, I
Speaker 4: appreciate you sharing your story with us. Is there is
Speaker 4: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 4: before we get out of here?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, my slogan has always stayless. State of pat girl Friends.
Speaker 4: I hope y'all go to rest, beautiful, take care, Willie,
Speaker 4: thanks for calling.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: That was Willy.
Speaker 4: He's a nice guy, plays call of duty. I'm inspired
Speaker 4: by that story. Seems like he tries to keep it
Speaker 4: a buck. You know, it's hard, Life's hard. Ah, fuck man,
Speaker 4: everything every time?
Speaker 3: You know what? Man, you know what?
Speaker 4: I honestly, the more I do this show, or like
Speaker 4: interview people, or like go out and do things, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: The more I think I think it's I think it's
Speaker 3: good to know. Is that is that bad?
Speaker 4: If my conclusion from this show is that it's actually
Speaker 4: good to know less things, I think it might be
Speaker 4: good to know less stuff.
Speaker 3: It's an option.
Speaker 4: I think the more stuff you know, you you get
Speaker 4: expanded to the world, and that's maybe healthy. I think
Speaker 4: if you only I think you know what, I take
Speaker 4: it back, if you only get to live once, which
Speaker 4: I think you do, I would rather get to know
Speaker 4: more about the world around me and the people in it,
Speaker 4: even if it's on, even if the process of doing
Speaker 4: that and the truths revealed and doing that are uncomfortable,
Speaker 4: I think I'd rather do that than live ignorant to
Speaker 4: those things. And I'll hold true to that if I,
Speaker 4: you know, if I'm eighty years old, if I'm lucky enough,
Speaker 4: who knows, Goddamn, I'll look back and I'll be like,
Speaker 4: I'm glad I sought rather than you know, stayed put
Speaker 4: and didn't seek anything. I don't know's I that's tangentially
Speaker 4: related to the conversation that we just had, at least
Speaker 4: in my own brain.
Speaker 3: But that's how I feel.
Speaker 4: Call from uh Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2: Hey, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Hi?
Speaker 3: What's your name?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 2: I don't want to use my real name, so let's
Speaker 2: make up one.
Speaker 7: Let's say I'm I don't know, bread or something cool?
Speaker 3: Bread? What's up? How's life?
Speaker 2: You know? Not great?
Speaker 7: If I If I'm being honest, I've been wanting to
Speaker 7: talk to you forever, sus kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: So let me like, I don't know, relax for a bit.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, let's talk about it. If you want to.
Speaker 4: I guess why not, Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay. The thing is, it's like, my life isn't hard.
Speaker 7: I think I'm going through a similar thing as you
Speaker 7: with the existentialism, and so sure, sure, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: you've been alive longer than I have, and it's like
Speaker 7: just through listening to you, it just seems like you're
Speaker 7: still I don't know when this started for you, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know how long it's going to go on
Speaker 7: for or like how what you're doing to manage it.
Speaker 7: Like I've just been like searching stuff on the internet
Speaker 7: and that's all I'm doing, but I don't feel like it's.
Speaker 3: Helping, right, Well, what I mean, what is it?
Speaker 7: I this existentialism? I don't know, like just not feeling
Speaker 7: like there's any direction or meaning if that makes sense
Speaker 7: to like yeah, and that you're going to die and
Speaker 7: it's gonna matter. It's like, yeah, you've heard all about
Speaker 7: the absurdism or whatever where it's like you make up
Speaker 7: your own meaning live de fite.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 7: A part of me it just doesn't want to take that,
Speaker 7: I guess, and that's my problem.
Speaker 4: Well, I well I'll tell you a few things. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I went through a really, really really tough
Speaker 4: period of time with existent for about I would say
Speaker 4: February March April May, so it's about four months where
Speaker 4: it's really bad. It was really really bad for four
Speaker 4: months and then now, you know, I mean, I I
Speaker 4: I existential questions pop up in my head.
Speaker 3: But like, I mean, there's four months.
Speaker 4: Where it's really like incapacitating my ability to fucking do anything,
Speaker 4: and it was bad. But after those four months, I mean,
Speaker 4: now I still have existential thoughts and feelings that you know,
Speaker 4: I think about all the time, you know, but I
Speaker 4: have found ways to mitigate it, and I can I
Speaker 4: can tell you ways I've found to mitigate it. I
Speaker 4: intentionally figured out different ways to put myself around other
Speaker 4: people and have a place to go every day. I
Speaker 4: gave myself a mission or an objective of a thing
Speaker 4: I want to pursue. I've been accepting that the certain
Speaker 4: existential questions are beyond me, and occupying my brain with
Speaker 4: them is not I mean, it feels like something out
Speaker 4: of your control, uh when you're in the thick of it,
Speaker 4: but uh, you know, they're beyond they're beyond you. You're
Speaker 4: never going to figure them out, and it's just it's
Speaker 4: not fun too just stay in them, and so you know,
Speaker 4: you leave them be. But I mean, for everyone's brain
Speaker 4: is kind of different. I mean, you know, I I've
Speaker 4: been taken vibeance that helps, but just I think continuing
Speaker 4: to pursue some kind of meaning or purpose, and that's
Speaker 4: that's that's I think.
Speaker 3: At least what's helped me. I mean, do you have.
Speaker 4: Do you have any any you kind of purpose or
Speaker 4: meaning or direction or anything at all that you vaguely
Speaker 4: want to do.
Speaker 7: M I mean finding meaning to cure existentialism, Like they're
Speaker 7: kind of interlocked, right, Like if you're going to try
Speaker 7: to define what meaning is to you and like what
Speaker 7: you want to do with your one life, then it's
Speaker 7: kind of like it kind of brings you back, if
Speaker 7: that makes sense. Like if I had to sit down
Speaker 7: and be like, Okay, what am I going to do
Speaker 7: with my life, and it's like I need meaning to
Speaker 7: distract me from this, from all this thinking about life,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, But then.
Speaker 7: It's you can't help but think like once you define it,
Speaker 7: is this meaningful? Is this worth my time? And it
Speaker 7: should be unquestionably worth your time whenever, but like, uh, sorry,
Speaker 7: my thoughts aren't.
Speaker 4: Really it should be unco sesstionably worth your time because
Speaker 4: the time is so valuable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you value life.
Speaker 4: Sure, but but also but also that that what you
Speaker 4: just said, saying it must unquestionably be worth your time is.
Speaker 3: An important thing to scrutinize. It's really important.
Speaker 4: It's really what's your name, bread, It's really really important
Speaker 4: to scrutinize what you just said, because unquestionably, uh so,
Speaker 4: I'm faced with the fact that I only have one life,
Speaker 4: and my time is extremely valuable, and it's a precious, precious,
Speaker 4: precious thing, this one life. And thus, because it's such
Speaker 4: a precious thing, I must do something that is unquestionably
Speaker 4: the correct thing to do with my life.
Speaker 3: That's what you're saying. Yeah, and and yes, and and
Speaker 3: and X.
Speaker 4: Existentialism gives you that, But there's a lot, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of things wrong. And by the way I live that,
Speaker 4: I live that all the time, and I think about
Speaker 4: that all the time, and it's one of the things
Speaker 4: that I think leaves me in a lot of paralysis
Speaker 4: and is a negative thing because that doesn't exist, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't exist. It won't exist for you, it won't
Speaker 4: exist for anyone because nobody will do it perfectly. Life
Speaker 4: is error correction, and so you're just inevitably gonna make
Speaker 4: errors and you will never ever ever live the perfect life.
Speaker 4: Maybe you know what, fucking maybe somebody out there, maybe
Speaker 4: a large amount of people out there, look back at
Speaker 4: their life and they just did it perfectly, you know,
Speaker 4: And good for them if that happened to them and
Speaker 4: everything was perfect. But the vast majority of people, ninety
Speaker 4: nine point nine nine percent of people, I mean, nobody,
Speaker 4: nobody does it perfectly. To say that you're gonna do
Speaker 4: the unquestionably correct thing is insane, And so just do things,
Speaker 4: you know, So like the paralyzing yourself with trying to
Speaker 4: find the most perfect, amazing thing to do with your
Speaker 4: with your life, it's paralyzing, it's ridiculous. So to just
Speaker 4: instead go, well, what would be some worthwhile things to
Speaker 4: do with my life? And That's how I've approached a
Speaker 4: lot of my life.
Speaker 3: And so look I'm talking. I'm spending.
Speaker 4: A part of my finite life talking to you right
Speaker 4: now about this subject. And is this the is this
Speaker 4: am i am? I? Is this without question the perfect
Speaker 4: thing to be doing with my time right now? Of
Speaker 4: course not, nothing's without question. But can I look at
Speaker 4: this conversation, and can I look at making this podcast,
Speaker 4: and can I look at talking to you even if
Speaker 4: just even if having this conversation is a remote help
Speaker 4: to you, or to me, or to anyone listening. Can
Speaker 4: I look back at it and go, you know what,
Speaker 4: whether or not that was the perfect thing to do
Speaker 4: with my life it was worthwhile to do?
Speaker 3: The answer is yes.
Speaker 4: You know, if I call my mom on the phone
Speaker 4: this morning, was that was that the optimal thing to
Speaker 4: be doing with my life? I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 4: But was it worthwhile to talk to my fucking mom? Yeah,
Speaker 4: of course it was. You know, if I go on
Speaker 4: a walk for four hours and I look at trees
Speaker 4: and I and I eat a fucking sandwich and I
Speaker 4: drink water, was it unquestionably the most optimized thing to
Speaker 4: do with my life? I don't, I don't know, But
Speaker 4: was it a worthwhile thing to do?
Speaker 3: Of course it was.
Speaker 4: It's just walking around, you know, so like just the
Speaker 4: think about the things that would just simply be worthwhile.
Speaker 3: And then that way you can at least look.
Speaker 4: Back at your life and look back at how you've
Speaker 4: spent your time and go, I did things that were
Speaker 4: worthwhile and they kept me in the moment, and I'm
Speaker 4: proud of how I spent my time. And by the way,
Speaker 4: even if you get trapped in crazy dopamine loops, which
Speaker 4: everyone does I'm living proof of. Like, I mean, you
Speaker 4: have no idea how much time I've spent, you know,
Speaker 4: on checking emails for no reason, no just searching for dopamine,
Speaker 4: a porn or Instagram reels or eating.
Speaker 3: Food or what.
Speaker 4: I have so so so much time of my life
Speaker 4: that I've dedicated to that.
Speaker 3: But I still am able to look back.
Speaker 4: At my life proud because you know, I had enough
Speaker 4: time to do that. But I also made friends, and
Speaker 4: I also went on a lot of good walks, and
Speaker 4: I got to travel, and I got to have worthwhile conversations,
Speaker 4: and I got to do things that were full of meaning.
Speaker 4: And it was And of course it wasn't perfect because
Speaker 4: I spent I mean fucking today before I started streaming
Speaker 4: making this podcast, I probably you know, spent four hours
Speaker 4: just like dicking around, just dicking around. But at least
Speaker 4: to these, look, these ten minutes that we're talking right now,
Speaker 4: I'll remember it. So if I if I, at least
Speaker 4: within my own ability and within my own energy, do
Speaker 4: things that are kind of worthwhile, I'll be able to
Speaker 4: look at my life and be proud of it. But
Speaker 4: this thing you're talking about this unquestionable. It makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4: The conclusion that you're coming to the way you got
Speaker 4: here makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: I know that because I've got caught into that logical
Speaker 4: conclusion myself that because life is so finite and precious, everything,
Speaker 4: every part of it has to be optimized. But that's
Speaker 4: not realistic, and if you try to live that way,
Speaker 4: you'll just spiral infinitely. So just do things that are
Speaker 4: worthwhile and lower your bar for what's worthwhile, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, do the big things if you want, go
Speaker 4: travel and make the art you want to make, or
Speaker 4: have the connections you want to make, but also the
Speaker 4: small like what I watched this morning. I watched the
Speaker 4: YouTube video about the old Hannah barbera ride at Universal Studios.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 4: That's what I did with that finite amount of time
Speaker 4: in my life. I don't, I don't. I don't regret it.
Speaker 4: I bought the the Switch, I played the new Donkey
Speaker 4: Kong game.
Speaker 3: I don't regret it. You know what, fuck it?
Speaker 4: I don't regret the seven times I checked my fucking
Speaker 4: email this morning.
Speaker 3: Why would I regret it? Who cares?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: Just don't.
Speaker 4: It's too much pressure it's too much pressure to have
Speaker 4: those regrets and to so just just do do worthwhile things,
Speaker 4: try not to beat yourself up too much, and you know,
Speaker 4: lower your bar for what's worthwhile. It's not what it's
Speaker 4: it's It's funny because when you start thinking about it
Speaker 4: a lot, it becomes a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: And then you.
Speaker 4: Start thinking about it even more and you start thinking
Speaker 4: about it in a different direction, and it actually becomes a.
Speaker 3: Lot less pressure. So that's what I got. That's my
Speaker 3: long rants.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 7: I think definitely, the perfectionist paralysis whatever is definitely just
Speaker 7: a pattern within a lot of people. It seems like
Speaker 7: people it's like there's a certain type of person who
Speaker 7: just doesn't care and does things and they end up
Speaker 7: getting a lot more accomplished and totally. Yeah, it's something
Speaker 7: I should reference though, what you say about doing worthwhile things.
Speaker 7: It's the fact that there could be something good you
Speaker 7: could be doing or not. There's like it's all like
Speaker 7: a spectrum or a scale or whatever. It doesn't matter
Speaker 7: if you do like the lowest of the low, but
Speaker 7: the fact that there's some kind of value there, there's
Speaker 7: some value of good or bad even though you can
Speaker 7: repeat to yourself, doesn't matter. It's that itself can also
Speaker 7: be paralyzing. It's a another secondary layer of perfectionism. I
Speaker 7: feel it's like, Okay, yeah, I can't be perfect perfect,
Speaker 7: but here's this thing closest to perfection possible. Even if
Speaker 7: it's by objective standards, not perfect or even good to you,
Speaker 7: it's the best you could do, which is perfect.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: It does make it does make sense.
Speaker 2: But the.
Speaker 4: You're taking a thing that's in some ways subjective and
Speaker 4: and I guess making it kind of objective. I mean like, well,
Speaker 4: so for let me so for example, right, I mean
Speaker 4: like in your life, how is the paralysis playing out?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: What what are the what are the opt what are
Speaker 4: the things? I know, I understand the general paralysis of
Speaker 4: trying to optimize your life, right, But if we got
Speaker 4: a little bit more into the weeds than we were
Speaker 4: and we come back that when we come back down
Speaker 4: to earth, where how does that paralysis play out?
Speaker 3: Like you know, in your day to day life.
Speaker 7: I guess constant procrastination. So I'm gonna be graduating from
Speaker 7: college soon and I'm not planning out anything at all.
Speaker 7: I don't know anything about anything. I tell myself I
Speaker 7: should be studying. I could always be doing something to
Speaker 7: improve my situation. There's whatever, Like it's just up to me.
Speaker 7: I just do it and I'll feel better too, And
Speaker 7: I know that. But for some reason, it's just such
Speaker 7: a daunting thing. And it's honestly what you talked about,
Speaker 7: like the dopamine leaves. It's probably just that it's probably
Speaker 7: just a biological thing and not like maybe this existential,
Speaker 7: big question thing.
Speaker 2: It is kind of stuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand why.
Speaker 4: I know, I understand why that sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: It is a biological thing. I don't know anything about biology,
Speaker 4: but I the more I don't know anything about psychology.
Speaker 4: But the more I learned about it, the more I
Speaker 4: realize that a lot of things I think are existential
Speaker 4: are just like my human brain behaving the way that
Speaker 4: human brains behave.
Speaker 3: But there's also still there's still a lot.
Speaker 4: Of questions I have about human brains, Like personality is
Speaker 4: a weird thing to me, like why do why are
Speaker 4: certain people so good at not procrastinating and others are
Speaker 4: I don't know, but uh, I mean, what are you
Speaker 4: procrastinating on? Like when you say when you when you say, oh,
Speaker 4: I should be studying like studying what.
Speaker 7: Uh, funnily enough, like psychology, So I have to apply
Speaker 7: to my psychology degree. It's actually like like to declare
Speaker 7: my major. I mean, and it's coming up pretty soon
Speaker 7: the deadline. And I'm perfectly qualified, I know, exactly, like
Speaker 7: like I just need to type weber out and then
Speaker 7: they'll probably accept me more than likely. And despite that,
Speaker 7: it's just like I, I don't know, it's just like
Speaker 7: I could just put it off. Why sit here and
Speaker 7: do it when I don't have to? I guess it's
Speaker 7: because I have to write like a personal statement. It's
Speaker 7: like two hundred fifty words. It's pretty simple. They'll take
Speaker 7: weber chat GPT, you know, like paragraph. But it's I
Speaker 7: don't want to do that. I actually want to put
Speaker 7: work into it, even if they don't care. Also, yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't want to put in the work because it's
Speaker 7: not going to be quote quote perfect.
Speaker 2: I think it's my mindset.
Speaker 3: What do you what do you like care about?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I guess having a I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like feeling fulfilled?
Speaker 4: Do you honestly feel like you don't know or do
Speaker 4: you can you find something within yourself that you actually
Speaker 4: do care about.
Speaker 7: I think I could, but I think I don't trust
Speaker 7: my brain enough because it's I mean, done this to
Speaker 7: me first of all, and I like, we're all I've
Speaker 7: gotten this completely off of TikTok and whatever, but it's
Speaker 7: just like we're very influenced, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 7: my desires are really my desires and you know the whole.
Speaker 3: Uh clear with what h So go ahead.
Speaker 7: Oh, once you achieve your dream, it's actually not as
Speaker 7: great as you thought it would be, and like like
Speaker 7: you become a doctor or whatever, you'll actually kind of suffer.
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't know what to pick. Then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also be very I'm dude, be very very
Speaker 4: very careful with TikTok, because I'm sure that your TikTok
Speaker 4: is feeding you like Alan Watt's shit and like people
Speaker 4: being like when I was you know things things I
Speaker 4: wish I knew at twenty when I was thirty, and
Speaker 4: like is that your algorithm?
Speaker 3: Is that your feed?
Speaker 4: Kind of yeah, yeah, my feed does that ship to
Speaker 4: me too, and like, do be careful with that ship.
Speaker 4: I've deleted TikTok because like you now, because because you're
Speaker 4: already going through all this existential shit and TikTok is
Speaker 4: going to like feed into it, you know, like it
Speaker 4: just does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally get.
Speaker 7: It's like it's our first time living, right And so
Speaker 7: they're like, oh, this person's older than me or more successful,
Speaker 7: so let's listen to them. But they could say whatever
Speaker 7: shit and they could like turn out not so great,
Speaker 7: but you'll still not know or have the experience to
Speaker 7: you know, spot it out until it's I don't know,
Speaker 7: a bit too late for some.
Speaker 4: There's that, but it also whether or not like the
Speaker 4: advice is.
Speaker 3: Good or not.
Speaker 4: It's more just about like the state of mind because
Speaker 4: like my understanding is that you're bothered right now because
Speaker 4: your brain is in an existential state of mind like
Speaker 4: all the time, and that's really uncomfortable. And when you
Speaker 4: go on TikTok and your whole feed is existential, it
Speaker 4: reinforces the state of mind. Dude, I was, I uh
Speaker 4: like I saw I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was dating this person and my brain was in
Speaker 4: an existential mood and like all of my TikTok shit.
Speaker 3: Comes up as is like is the feed.
Speaker 4: I just described it's like when you're how to know
Speaker 4: like whatever, like things I wish I knew at twenty
Speaker 4: when I was thirty and I was watching this person
Speaker 4: I was dating, like scroll through her TikTok and it
Speaker 4: came up on one of those videos and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm naturally interested in, and she just scrolled
Speaker 4: right past it.
Speaker 3: And then all of the videos on her feed were.
Speaker 4: Like like, you know, like dogs and shit, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like things had nothing like dogs or
Speaker 4: like skincare, you know, and it was like just a
Speaker 4: shit that had nothing to do with this, And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's why you know that.
Speaker 3: It was an interesting observation. It was like, oh, what
Speaker 3: do you mean?
Speaker 4: My brain does not have to be in this state
Speaker 4: all the time, you know, Like because you get a
Speaker 4: little existential, then you go on the internet and then
Speaker 4: YouTube starts feeding you alls guru shit and TikTok, sex, fienialds, gurushit,
Speaker 4: and before you know it, before you know it, it
Speaker 4: becomes the world you live in. You know, and you
Speaker 4: don't and it's uncomfortable, and you go out with other
Speaker 4: people and you meet it and you're realize that not
Speaker 4: everyone lives in this world of existentialism that you live in,
Speaker 4: and you're like, damn, I gotta stop programming myself.
Speaker 3: It's hard. I get. I get that.
Speaker 4: It's a whole thing where it's like once you see it,
Speaker 4: you can and see it. But I it's manageable.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: That's I would say that. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: as a tangent.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I get that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta ask. I don't I personally observe it
Speaker 7: in myself, but I don't know if you feel like
Speaker 7: a sense of pride almost like oh my gosh, I've
Speaker 7: been chosen to look at life in the face for
Speaker 7: its deepest whatever and I'm special Like you don't want
Speaker 7: to say that, or.
Speaker 2: But I can feel that's sort.
Speaker 7: Of what's going on with me to sustain myself in
Speaker 7: this Uh, let.
Speaker 4: Me think about that for a second. M let me
Speaker 4: think about that for a second, because that I hmmm,
Speaker 4: have you been chosen? I've I have a lot of
Speaker 4: I have a lot of thoughts about that. Well what
Speaker 4: is I mean, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 2: Like? Not chosen?
Speaker 3: It was kind of no, I I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, no, No, No, I know you. I know what
Speaker 3: you mean, though, uh huh.
Speaker 7: I guess it's just like like you said, you can't
Speaker 7: unsee what you've seen. And then it's it's like you
Speaker 7: realize other people around you seemingly because you're not them
Speaker 7: seemingly or just kind of uh like vain or like
Speaker 7: invested in this and like worldly things whatever. They don't
Speaker 7: really think about what they're doing. But I'm over here,
Speaker 7: you know, you, like really contemplating what's important, and once
Speaker 7: I get it, I know I'll be greater or whatever.
Speaker 7: It's I feel like that's an underlying voice that I
Speaker 7: don't realize, at least my ex on socialism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, here's a little thing about that voice.
Speaker 4: I've had that voice, Yeah, where it's like not not
Speaker 4: not I'm the chosen one, but like I see life
Speaker 4: for what it is because I've had this existential crisis
Speaker 4: and everyone else is just going through the motions and whatnot,
Speaker 4: and it's dangerous for a few reasons. Okay, So there's
Speaker 4: a bell curve I think with this, do you know
Speaker 4: that you know the bell curve meme? Yeah, where it's like, uh, okay,
Speaker 4: so there's a bell curve, so and I have to.
Speaker 3: I think I talked about this on here before, but
Speaker 3: I'll do it again.
Speaker 4: There's a bell curve meme where Okay, so at the
Speaker 4: very left side of the bell curve you have like
Speaker 4: dumb Wojack, and dumb Wojack is like, you know, Herder,
Speaker 4: I just do things that I like and have a
Speaker 4: chill time. Right And then in the middle of the
Speaker 4: bell curve that's where you are right now, is life
Speaker 4: must be optimized because it is so precious, and we
Speaker 4: cannot allow ourselves to, you know, live in ignorant bliss
Speaker 4: because I have seen life for what it is, and
Speaker 4: I must make the most optimal choices because I have
Speaker 4: to do that in service of the deep preciousness of
Speaker 4: life that I have come to understand, you know. And
Speaker 4: that's crying freaking out Wojack. And then on the right
Speaker 4: side of the bell curve is enlightened Wojack with the
Speaker 4: hood up and he's like, I just do things that
Speaker 4: I like, and I think about I used to think
Speaker 4: about my uh my, my mom and my stepdad without fail.
Speaker 3: Every single.
Speaker 4: Night they eat, they make salmon, and they watch Jeopardy,
Speaker 4: and growing up, I would think, like, man, that's crazy
Speaker 4: How are you gonna spend your whole life just eating
Speaker 4: salmon and watching Jeopardy? You know, like, isn't there isn't
Speaker 4: there more to be ascertained or achieved or whatever whatever.
Speaker 3: And then kind of as you close a bit of a.
Speaker 4: Loop on an existential crisis, you realize like, oh, they
Speaker 4: had it right all along, you know, like they're the
Speaker 4: every every nothing. They the the the breadth of human
Speaker 4: experience and the amazing ascension that I'm thinking I'm going
Speaker 4: to achieve as a result of quote unquote seeing life
Speaker 4: for what it is. They don't need to do all
Speaker 4: that shit because all of that is found within eating
Speaker 4: salmon and watching Jeopardy. Like it was all right there,
Speaker 4: you know, so I don't I don't need to There's
Speaker 4: no ascension there. I don't think there ever will be
Speaker 4: an ascension. There's just uh, mitigating things in dealing with them.
Speaker 4: I think That's how I feel on this uh, on
Speaker 4: this journey right now. Is I I have I've always
Speaker 4: had this faith that one day I will have some
Speaker 4: form of ascension, not in like a religious way, but
Speaker 4: like ascending beyond this kind of like inherent discomfort.
Speaker 3: But maybe I will. There's still a lot of factors left.
Speaker 4: But I've achieved a lot of things in my life
Speaker 4: that I thought would bring me to that ascension, and
Speaker 4: they have yet. But I still there's a lot of
Speaker 4: other things that I still have on my list before
Speaker 4: I've ascended. But I don't you know, if the other
Speaker 4: things that I thought would bring me to some form
Speaker 4: of ascension didn't bring me there, then I don't think
Speaker 4: this will either.
Speaker 3: But who knows.
Speaker 1: Man, I.
Speaker 3: You know, there's things I haven't tried.
Speaker 4: I still, I still, in my heart of heart, believe
Speaker 4: that I'll you know, to me, you know, ascension to.
Speaker 3: Me feels like.
Speaker 4: Having a strong state of well being day to day.
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like to me. You don't ever like,
Speaker 4: you don't like become God or some shit. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: but yeah, that's my experience with that feeling you're talking about.
Speaker 2: M I see, have you have you heard of self realization?
Speaker 3: That concept of like, no, what is that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know that much about it. I've just heard
Speaker 7: it from someone. Apparently it's it's kind of like enlightenment
Speaker 7: and Buddhism or.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 7: It's like where you can reach a state of just
Speaker 7: nearly just not being neurotic anymore, not ever facing like
Speaker 7: anger or any negative emotion of any sort, and you're
Speaker 7: just kind of like living like an animal because like
Speaker 7: they're just living on instinct. Right it's realizing the error
Speaker 7: of self image or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 7: Much about it myself, but that's a state that you
Speaker 7: apparently can reach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again for where I'm at right now, I'm
Speaker 4: kind of like I mean, like I was talking to
Speaker 4: the guy before about you know, I'm neurotic and I'm
Speaker 4: always going to deal with crap. And I honestly think
Speaker 4: part of honestly think part of the ascension is just
Speaker 4: accepting that, accepting that, accepting the like instead of trying
Speaker 4: to imagine a world where I never have any problems,
Speaker 4: I never have any negative emotions, I never have fear
Speaker 4: or anxiety. I just I just take it in as
Speaker 4: part of life and I and I accept my imperfections
Speaker 4: and I accept the uncertainty. That's where I think the
Speaker 4: piece is found. I don't think the piece is found
Speaker 4: in some kind of state where I don't experience those things,
Speaker 4: but rather a state where I integrate them and accept them,
Speaker 4: and I feel I almost feel honored to be alive,
Speaker 4: to have them.
Speaker 2: M I see it.
Speaker 7: I guess in a way, it's it's like, definitely not
Speaker 7: enjoyable to experience, you know, the consequences of being neurotic.
Speaker 7: But it's like, I'm sure afterward it's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 7: it's kind of you know, nice being alive.
Speaker 2: It's it's like you're able to feel. But also, I.
Speaker 7: Like your whole life is kind of following the pursuit
Speaker 7: of not feeling these things as little, like as much
Speaker 7: as possible, right.
Speaker 4: Right, but then once but once you accept right, but
Speaker 4: once you accept it, you're like, is paradoxically when you
Speaker 4: find some peace.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm let me.
Speaker 7: See accept it, like except that it's always going to
Speaker 7: be there, but still try to minimize it.
Speaker 6: Mmmm.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 7: Probably okay, I mean yeah, yeah, I can't put this
Speaker 7: pressure on you.
Speaker 4: You're no, yeah, don't feel I don't feel No, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't feel any pressure at all. I'm just
Speaker 4: this has just been my uh experience. I mean it's
Speaker 4: still I'm still working it out.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm.
Speaker 4: Able to sound like I have any kind of authority
Speaker 4: on the subject. Is uh, you know, just a lot
Speaker 4: of work, continuing to work it out. But I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find my uh you just just keep working,
Speaker 4: just keep working and trying not to go insane.
Speaker 3: That's what I would say, got it, bread?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, you wanted to say something.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to ask about, like how you're direct
Speaker 7: how you're directing your life. I guess, like how do
Speaker 7: you start this podcast? Like what motivated you too? And
Speaker 7: then what are you following? I guess what are the
Speaker 7: big meaningful things that let you hear?
Speaker 4: And this podcast truly started as an accident. Okay, Well,
Speaker 4: I've always done stuff, and I've always fucked.
Speaker 3: Around on the internet and made movies and I.
Speaker 4: Did stand up for a while, and this podcast started
Speaker 4: as an act, truly as an accident.
Speaker 3: That kind of.
Speaker 4: I was able to turn into a thing. And I've
Speaker 4: been doing it for five years now, and I think
Speaker 4: now my now, my big like direction and focus is
Speaker 4: going to be on, uh making making little documentaries like
Speaker 4: I made my Tijuana documentary, I made my Japan documentary.
Speaker 4: I've got two other little docu videos in the works,
Speaker 4: and those are those those videos are what interested me
Speaker 4: right now. So I'm gonna keep trying to make those
Speaker 4: videos of like you know, uh traveling and uh interviewing people,
Speaker 4: and you know that feels like a very worthwhile use
Speaker 4: of my time. And I'm gonna keep trying to put
Speaker 4: on little fun things that bring people together and try
Speaker 4: to enjoy my life and make good work and uh
Speaker 4: do do things that feel worthwhile to me. That's been
Speaker 4: my kind of north star over the.
Speaker 3: Over the year.
Speaker 2: Solid sounds good. I hope it all goes well.
Speaker 3: I hope so too, Man, I hope so too.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it will. Like this podcast, it's basically the
Speaker 2: same thing I feel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I was, I was struggling.
Speaker 4: I was journaling about it before I even started recording this,
Speaker 4: where I was struggling with like, uh, you know, the
Speaker 4: vulnerability involved in kind of putting all your eggs, taking
Speaker 4: taking your eggs out of the basket they've been in
Speaker 4: for a while and putting them into a new one.
Speaker 4: It's you know, there's some vulnerability there. But I think,
Speaker 4: I think, think, what else are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: True, maybe they'll hatch I don't know if that makes sense,
Speaker 7: but something will happen to them, something good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and and If none of that works out,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna eat a lot of chocolate. I'm gonna eat
Speaker 4: a lot of I'm gonna eat a lot of Ben
Speaker 4: and Jerry's.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had I had? You ever have
Speaker 3: zebra cake ice cream?
Speaker 2: No? Is that a thing?
Speaker 3: It's ice cream with fucking zebra cake chunks in.
Speaker 7: It is zebra cake, the thing from like Debbie whatever, Yes.
Speaker 4: Yet Debbie, Yeah, little Debbie, zebra cakes.
Speaker 7: Due.
Speaker 2: They're just putting whatever in there. It sounds good.
Speaker 3: It's insane.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't regret any I don't regret any time
Speaker 4: in my life that I ate zebra cake ice cream.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe I do a little bit. I mean
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't regret it. I'd like to move forward. I'd
Speaker 4: like to eat less ship. But if I don't regret it,
Speaker 4: if I did, it was all fine. It all happens.
Speaker 4: I live in the presence. I'm trying to at least.
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, that ice stream pretty much has never happened.
Speaker 7: It's fine. There's no consequences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bread, was this conversation in any way, shape or
Speaker 4: form good or helpful for you?
Speaker 2: It was very much so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was like a slap in the face.
Speaker 7: It's just like, you know, just you know, don't overthink it,
Speaker 7: like you said, do worth of all things? Just yeah,
Speaker 7: you need to stop thinking so much and live. I
Speaker 7: guess I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what if if if
Speaker 3: you try to do that, I will try to do
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 4: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 4: people of the computer before we go? Bread Er, No, sir,
Speaker 4: beautiful bread, I will see you around the universe.
Speaker 2: Yep, same to you.
Speaker 3: But that was bread.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6: Man? You know? Is this Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 6: This is Carler?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: What's going on, Tyler? How's life?
Speaker 6: I would say it's been pretty good recently, for sure.
Speaker 6: I just finally got a job, finally after like six
Speaker 6: months of unemployment.
Speaker 4: Very good, very good.
Speaker 6: What kind of job, like like accounting, like accounts.
Speaker 4: Receivable, accounts receivable, that's the job from that I actually
Speaker 4: I just watched, Uh there's a scene from the show
Speaker 4: Bob's Burgers.
Speaker 3: Where have you ever seen this? What's on YouTube?
Speaker 4: I mean it's also in the show Bob's Burgers, but
Speaker 4: I know from YouTube where Bob has like a has
Speaker 4: a day dream about having a normal job after getting
Speaker 4: like pissed off about owning the restaurant, and he goes
Speaker 4: and he's like reading, he's reading a newspaper and he
Speaker 4: goes accounts receivable specialist. That sounds nice, and then he
Speaker 4: has this daydream about working in an office as an
Speaker 4: accounts receivable specialist.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 6: I've watched Bobs Berger, but I haven't watched that specific clip.
Speaker 4: You watch it, maybe it might make you romanticize being
Speaker 4: an accounts receivable specialist?
Speaker 6: Honestly, am I for real? I mean, but yeah, I
Speaker 6: got yeah, No, I was just like, I mean, I
Speaker 6: was just gonna have to say, like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: it's not the ideal job I'm looking for, but it's
Speaker 6: definitely just like I mean, literally, I haven't gotten paid
Speaker 6: in like six months, so it feels good to like
Speaker 6: make money.
Speaker 4: Again, you feel, Tyler, I'm gonna ask, it's okay if
Speaker 4: not or if this was the thing, but is there
Speaker 4: anything in particular you called in to want I talk
Speaker 4: about today?
Speaker 6: I guess, like I don't know. I didn't expect to answer, really,
Speaker 6: but I mean I was just damn you know, I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean particularly you know, I mean
Speaker 6: that that was just telling me about the good news
Speaker 6: of I guess my week. I guess so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm I don't really have anything else really on the top.
Speaker 3: Of my head right now, but that's okay.
Speaker 6: I just want to say it's the good news and whatnot.
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good. What's your life like in general?
Speaker 6: I would say just pretty like pretty regular, I would say,
Speaker 6: you know, just like I guess I can the unemployed
Speaker 6: life I was living just like, wake up, go to
Speaker 6: the gym, do homework, especially like job applications, maybe smoke
Speaker 6: some weed. I mean, that's really kind of really my
Speaker 6: day really kind of every day.
Speaker 4: How's how's weed been for you?
Speaker 6: You know what? Like I'm gonna lie like I took
Speaker 6: like an eight hundred milligram edible like a couple of
Speaker 6: days ago, and I've just been mad chilling. I don't
Speaker 6: really smoke since then, so a couple of days.
Speaker 4: So so you're you're you're to tell me that you're
Speaker 4: currently still riding the high of that eight hundred milligram edible,
Speaker 4: like it hasn't worn off.
Speaker 6: You know what. Like the next to like I think
Speaker 6: like the next day, like so like keep in mind,
Speaker 6: like well I took it, like I took like five
Speaker 6: hundred milligrams of it, and I took like another three
Speaker 6: hundred like maybe like a couple hours later, and like
Speaker 6: that next day I pretty much was just sleeping pretty
Speaker 6: much like thirteen hours right and then and then like
Speaker 6: I just really haven't had the craving, I guess, because
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes you just have like that craving. It's
Speaker 6: like they don't really want to smoke right now. M
Speaker 6: But like I haven't had that since the edible.
Speaker 3: Mm so the edible just got rid of cravings, I guess.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean theoretically it's kind of like a
Speaker 6: blessing in disguy, since I got the job, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. It's like I don't feel like smoking
Speaker 6: weed before or after the job right now. Just kind
Speaker 6: of like figure out the you know, like how my
Speaker 6: new routine will work and whatnot.
Speaker 4: You feel, Yeah, I feel I feel Hmmm, Tyler, what
Speaker 4: do you do in your free time besides I guess
Speaker 4: smoke weed.
Speaker 6: You know what? Like I was doing like I did
Speaker 6: pick up ball for a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I was part of a group for like I would say,
Speaker 6: a good four months and then it just kind of
Speaker 6: disbanded randomly. So I haven't really been able to do
Speaker 6: that much, but I guess, like in a general sense,
Speaker 6: like I've done like some ikes, like the gym, I
Speaker 6: try to get into like puzzles and whatnot again, which
Speaker 6: is been kind of therapeutic, but I don't know, sometimes
Speaker 6: like you just got to be really locked into like
Speaker 6: wanting that in order to like focus.
Speaker 3: What kind of puzzles are we talking?
Speaker 6: Oh no, like the like the dollar tree puzzles, like
Speaker 6: the two hundred and fifty to five hundred piece puzzles
Speaker 6: that are like just random images probably you can sitch
Speaker 6: on Google.
Speaker 4: Yeah, puzzles are very calming, you know, they feel they
Speaker 4: feel productive and linear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. But you know, I mean I've
Speaker 6: done the puzzles, like I've sometimes had like color, Like
Speaker 6: I've like I like have like this thing where like
Speaker 6: like really earlier on like this year, I was like
Speaker 6: I really want to get into like my creative elements
Speaker 6: in a sense and just like trying to just to
Speaker 6: expand like the left side of my brain or whatever.
Speaker 6: So like I kind of just bought a bunch of
Speaker 6: coloring books and like crosser puzzles and actual puzzles.
Speaker 3: What kinds of shit have you been coloring?
Speaker 6: It's kind of like sometimes there's like print out online.
Speaker 6: Sometimes there's like the coloring books themselves are just kind
Speaker 6: of like regular general colored books, like for example, like
Speaker 6: there's like one dedicated like animals, or like one decade
Speaker 6: just the cars. You know, just kind of like those
Speaker 6: kind of just basic coloring books you could just find anywhere.
Speaker 6: But I don't know, it kind of it is kind
Speaker 6: of weirdly therapeutic in a sense.
Speaker 4: M yeah, I gotta I gotta get on that coloring
Speaker 4: book ship, you know. Yeah, just something to occupy the mind, right,
Speaker 4: I mean that's kind of like what we were talking
Speaker 4: about in the previous call, is like just trying to
Speaker 4: not have your mind wander on shiit.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: A video games are good for that. What are you
Speaker 4: gonna say?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna say. My grandpa said this
Speaker 6: one quot where it's like like I don't like the
Speaker 6: idle mind is after about the exact quote, but it's
Speaker 6: like something like the idle mind is like the.
Speaker 1: Worst mind or something like that.
Speaker 6: I don't know totally like just being not preoccupied or
Speaker 6: not totally and you.
Speaker 3: Know what, you know what, you start go ahead and
Speaker 3: go ahead?
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, go ahead, no go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna.
Speaker 4: So you know what's funny is like some people, some
Speaker 4: people say the opposite of that ship. They're like, you
Speaker 4: can't keep doing stuff to escape your thoughts. You gotta
Speaker 4: improve you, guys, improve the quality of your thoughts when
Speaker 4: they're when you're idle.
Speaker 3: I think that's fucking stupid.
Speaker 4: You know. I think doing things to escape your thoughts
Speaker 4: great idea. Meditation that I mean, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm kind of bullshitting here. I'm just being being funny,
Speaker 4: but uh, meditation does feel like a kind of bullshit
Speaker 4: in that sense of like, wait, I don't want to
Speaker 4: sit with my thoughts.
Speaker 3: I gotta avoid these guys.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's just about it's about the
Speaker 4: quality of the thing you're doing, probably to avoid your thoughts,
Speaker 4: because you know, you can avoid thoughts by fucking eating
Speaker 4: ice cream or doing starting a fucking landscaping company. But
Speaker 4: it's still doing the same thing, still avoiding thoughts. That's
Speaker 4: why you go to work or do anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know, Like I
Speaker 6: feel like I don't know, Like I guess, like when
Speaker 6: I have like those negative thoughts, sometimes I kind of
Speaker 6: just try to like figure out why, and then like
Speaker 6: when I discovered the why, then it kind of leads
Speaker 6: to like a whole like oh wait, I've been avoiding
Speaker 6: this for like years and then like and then you're like,
Speaker 6: oh wait, I probably should just make slowly efforts at things,
Speaker 6: like I'll give you an example, Like I guess, like
Speaker 6: I trance, like I switched to like schools online originally
Speaker 6: being in person, and I kind of like lost like
Speaker 6: that social kind of like aspect of.
Speaker 1: It of school and whatnot.
Speaker 6: So like I guess like the feeling of like loneliness
Speaker 6: kind of like overtakes me sometimes, so like sometimes I
Speaker 6: got to figure out like how to deal with the thoughts,
Speaker 6: like maybe not smoking weeds, just like actually like going
Speaker 6: out there and actually going on like a meetup kind
Speaker 6: of like have you've mentioned for in your previous episodes.
Speaker 4: M hm, did you say that you did you say
Speaker 4: that you went to a meet up or you thinking
Speaker 4: about going to a meetup?
Speaker 6: Oh, Like I've been to like a couple like I've
Speaker 6: I think it's like whenever, like well like as recently, no,
Speaker 6: but like within the past six months, yes, like for
Speaker 6: that pickleball thing. That's how I found it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's why it's.
Speaker 6: Tougher in my area at least, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, what's your area.
Speaker 6: I'm in, like southern California where it's like kind of
Speaker 6: the unique culture. I mean I could kind of like,
Speaker 6: I mean, I could just go to LA area. It's
Speaker 6: like an hour for me for some better things, but
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm I have to like drive everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so what do you mean it's I mean,
Speaker 4: so cal is full of I mean La is full
Speaker 4: of ship everywhere. M hm, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah. But like but at least my area right or
Speaker 6: like the OC area, Like I don't know, it's like
Speaker 6: it's either like a bunch of like like younger families
Speaker 6: or just like really old people. So it's like kind
Speaker 6: of hard to find people my age because usually they
Speaker 6: moved out of the area by then, or if they did,
Speaker 6: or if they didn't, I don't know where to find them.
Speaker 3: How was the pickleball meet up?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'll try to remember as much as I can,
Speaker 6: but pretty much when I got there. How it first
Speaker 6: started was we had to like we had to like
Speaker 6: determine like what level of pickleball knowledge we were. I
Speaker 6: think it's like like it goes from like one to
Speaker 6: five and I barely I mean, I played tennis a
Speaker 6: little bit back in the day, but I wasn't really
Speaker 6: as like knowledgeable about the rules of pickleball, so I
Speaker 6: was kind of just like learning. It's like the first
Speaker 6: day of me going to this was like actually learning
Speaker 6: the sport, and then kind of like it's kind of
Speaker 6: turned into like just random groups revolving like you would
Speaker 6: be this like an hour and just you'd probably play
Speaker 6: like three or four games do that like once a week.
Speaker 6: It's pretty fun. I mean I didn't really connect with
Speaker 6: a lot of people at that because like I don't know,
Speaker 6: it's like it's it's.
Speaker 4: Well, well, well, well, well, Here's one thing that I
Speaker 4: think people don't realize when they go to meetups or
Speaker 4: shit like that, is that you don't if if you
Speaker 4: go to a thing like that and you instantly make
Speaker 4: a bunch of friends and uh, everything instantly feels amazing, then.
Speaker 3: You got very lucky.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: You're supposed to the like you don't that shoul didn't
Speaker 4: happen overnight. Like you join communities by repeatedly being a
Speaker 4: part of them. So you you can't like just go
Speaker 4: to one thing and then see that it already has
Speaker 4: You can't because I think like a lot of people,
Speaker 4: like they go to one thing and then they see
Speaker 4: that it already has its own culture and whatnot, and
Speaker 4: then they feel isolated from that culture and then they
Speaker 4: go home and they're like, I don't know if I
Speaker 4: ever want.
Speaker 3: To do that again.
Speaker 4: But that's because you're you have way too many expectations
Speaker 4: from the first thing. You got to kind of find
Speaker 4: a thing that you're repeatedly showing up to, and even then,
Speaker 4: it doesn't take that long.
Speaker 3: Really, it doesn't take that long, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean if you go to the se because if
Speaker 4: you go to the same fucking pickleball thing, you know
Speaker 4: once a week for six months, you know you're you're
Speaker 4: in the clear.
Speaker 6: No, you're absolutely right, Like I definitely believe that. I
Speaker 6: definitely do that, honestly. And yeah, I mean, like the
Speaker 6: pickleball is a unique situation since the it just got
Speaker 6: disbanded and just disappeared. But like, yeah, like i I've
Speaker 6: been trying to learn to like have that expectation kind
Speaker 6: of go down where like, you know, I'm not going
Speaker 6: to be friends with everyone immediately, but if I do,
Speaker 6: that'd be nice. But you know, it's just it's just
Speaker 6: kind of being consistent regular. It's kind of like the
Speaker 6: big kind of key component. It's like the meeting community
Speaker 6: is just being consistent with where you're going to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 4: What did you say your name was, Jacob Kyler?
Speaker 6: Fuck you?
Speaker 4: No, Well, it's annoying because if you came up to
Speaker 4: me in three years and you were like, yo, we
Speaker 4: talked about how I went to meet people at a pickleball,
Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, I do remember that, but I
Speaker 4: won't I won't remember what the I honestly, I honestly,
Speaker 4: I don't apologize for not for forgetting the names. I
Speaker 4: remember the things, but I don't remember any names. It
Speaker 4: just is a thing you.
Speaker 6: I'll go with me. Man, you probably talked to some people.
Speaker 4: You're probably no, it's not even it's not even that.
Speaker 3: It's not even that. It's not even that Kyler.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I talked to so many people, but I
Speaker 4: remember a lot of the I don't know why I'm
Speaker 4: getting upset right now. I remember a lot of the thing.
Speaker 4: I remember the things, the conversations, but I just like
Speaker 4: names or not. You know, I forget names of people
Speaker 4: that I know in real life all the time.
Speaker 6: Wasn't there like a time when you're like, I'm just
Speaker 6: gonna call people caller, Like, I'm not gonna remember names,
Speaker 6: call people call her. Yeah, but but hey, it's all good.
Speaker 3: You know what. What's your name is, Kyler?
Speaker 6: Yep, you got it.
Speaker 4: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 4: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 6: Just be consistent with what you want to do with
Speaker 6: your life, and things will hopefully happen.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Kyler, have a good rest of your entire existence.
Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Get blessed by Kyler goes on the line, thinking,
Speaker 6: every night.
Speaker 3: Everything goes to teaching you.
Speaker 4: The