WEBVTT - Kevin is Next - Part I 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:07.160 So check this out. Uh, that is the house, right, 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:08.639 so they run out here? 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:09.760 Tell me who was in there? 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:10.240 Which one? 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:12.520 So, David Nick. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.079 White and Amanda Lewis don't look like academics. If you 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.439 saw them on the street with their tattoos and their 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:22.919 restless energy, we probably guess indie music bandmates before anything 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.040 to do with the law. In fact, they're a young 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.480 married couple working with Georgetown University's Prison and Justice Initiative, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.760 Amanda as doctor Amanda Lewis, a lecturer and research associate, 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.519 Nick in his third year of law school. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:40.880 And then. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.400 Look at this little dog not bothering us. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.240 And they both have a weakness for dogs. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.400 Hello little dog? 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:58.080 Hello? Hello? Who is this? Oh? Hello? Okay, yeah, I'm 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.279 not going to this one him. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.319 This afternoon, I'm here with them in Largo, Florida, as 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.880 they're doing some boots on the ground investigating on a 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.920 case from nineteen eighty nine. We're walking around the neighborhood 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.680 where this crime took place thirty six years ago on 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.520 Florida's Gulf Coast. It's hot as hell out here, and 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.240 we run into a man walking two little lap dogs. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.480 He lives down the block and he's curious about the 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:25.600 microphone I'm holding. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.479 Are you investigating case from nineteen eighty nine? 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:31.880 You? 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.360 Yeah, did you? 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.400 Or I'm assuming you would have been way younger. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.520 Nick and Amanda waste no time talking to the neighbor, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.440 trying to find out more information. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.840 What house was it? 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:46.520 It's an Airbnb. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:51.560 Now turns out the case that they're investigating isn't just 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:57.280 any case, or even just any wrongful conviction. What somebody 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.000 passed away there or something murdered. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.120 No, it was a it was a sexual assault case 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.760 and then it was interrupted. Someone was kind of slash staff. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:13.120 Everybody was, you know, okay, But they convicted the neighbor, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.760 who we believed had absolutely nothing to do with it, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.840 and he's been in prison for thirty six years. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.200 Yeah. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.160 The man in prison is Kevin Herrick. You might remember 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.639 that name, and if you do, you might know why 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:32.400 I'm here. Kevin is Leo Schofield's best friend. They were 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.399 cellmates for more than two decades at Hardy Correctional Institutions. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.240 Hopefully, so that's what we're doing now. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.239 We're that's why we're here. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:47.399 We can't find. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.120 The first time I'd heard about Kevin's case, Leo was 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.160 still in prison. He mentioned it to Kelsey while she 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.040 was interviewing him. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.800 Kevin Herrick, who is my best friend? Who you know of? 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:17.840 Kevin is another one doesn't belong in prison? Yes, yes, yes, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.960 exactly what's working on. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.880 At the time, we just knew he was the other 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.840 guitarist who made music with Leo. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.600 He's an incredible guy and we've been best friends for 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.280 almost the whole time we've been in prison. You know, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.280 I don't think Kevin's innocent. I know he's innocent, like 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:34.280 I know I'm innocent. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.320 Leo and Kevin met when they were both in their twenties, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.720 soon after they were both convicted of serious crimes in 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.920 the late nineteen eighties. In prison, they both came to 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.840 believe in the other's innocence as fiercely as his own, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.960 and their bond was forged in the long years of 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.560 unjust incarceration. But they also discovered they shared a love 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.680 of rock and roll and a drive to better themselves 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.560 through education. Not long after they met, back in the 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.680 early nineteen nineties, they put in a request to share 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.400 a cell together, and they studied each other's cases too, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.080 talking evidence and strategy late into the night. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.680 Yeah, listen, you'll drive yourself crazy. His is more insane 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:29.240 than mine. I'm not kidding. His case is insane. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.800 They drafted pro sae motions for themselves at a time 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.440 when neither had a lawyer, but the courts gave them nothing, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.039 and the decades passed spent shoulder to shoulder in the 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.240 darkest places, fighting battles on paper that never seemed to 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.080 reach the light of day. As they fought side by 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.400 side to prove their innocence, they developed a pact. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.599 We always knew one of us has to get out 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.080 so the other can get out. So, you know, because 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.000 if I make it out, I'm not going to stay 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.960 out knocking on doors until Sonny pays attention to Kevin. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:03.480 You know. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.760 That's just the way that it's got to be. And 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.279 I know he would do the same for me, because 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:08.760 it's right. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.839 Four years after Leo told Kelsey about his pact with Kevin, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.800 he learned that freedom might finally be within reach. But 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.760 as his release drew closer, a haunting question followed him. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:28.040 What if he walked out first, leaving Kevin behind. When 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.000 Leo was released on parole in April twenty twenty four, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.400 he made his promise to Kevin unmistakable. He walked out 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.159 wearing a shirt that read Kevin is Next. I was there, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.320 and in his first hours of freedom, he didn't dwell 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.200 on his own story. Instead, he turned to the fight 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.240 still ahead for Kevin. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.560 And you know that's the reason why I have the 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.599 Kevin is Next. You know, I'm no different than he is. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.360 I'm no better than he is, you know, because his 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.960 story is the and he counts, he counts. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.160 About six months after Leo's release, I met him once 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.000 again in Florida, this time in a hotel room overlooking 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.720 the water. We talked about everything he'd been doing since 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.320 getting out. He told me about preaching in local churches 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.719 and public speaking, but he always brought it back to 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.200 Kevin and the fight to prove his best friend's innocence. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.120 I will never ever be happy with him in there. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.200 I can't be happy out here. I am very happy 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.640 for my family myself. I'm not saying I want to 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.480 go back and live in prison. I couldn't do it now. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.080 I couldn't go back. And once you got me here 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.080 and I started, you know, assimilating back into free society, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.200 there's no way I can go back to that lifestyle. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.839 But it was very difficult to leave it, and sometimes 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.280 I regret leaving him there. You know, I didn't just 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.000 leave him in Vietnam. I left him in the heated battlefield, 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.960 you know. And it's not just he's at bay somewhere. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.960 You know, he's in the field, and it's a never 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.120 ending war. At the forefront of my mind, not the 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.960 back of my mind, the forefront of my mind. Mostly 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.440 every waking moment, I'm trying to figure out, how are 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.040 we going to get him proven innocent. The deal is 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.760 one of us has to get out to get the 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:36.960 other out. In ninety two when we met, I was 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.360 playing in the rock band back then that's inside the prison, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.880 and he had an interest in playing guitar, so he 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.000 spent a lot of time watching us in the band. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:51.040 And I remember him, you know, picking up the guitar 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.560 one day and just holding it, and I said, you 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.960 want to learn how to play that thing? And he 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.800 kind of acted like, you know, because I know it's 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.760 going to take some time. But I told him, I said, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.760 it's not as hard as your think to put something 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.720 in it. And so I remember putting his fingers on 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.440 the fretboard of the guitar to form a decord and 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.760 when the first clause you should learn. And then he'd 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.640 have his finger on the wrong place, not here, fool, 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.000 and I'd move it and put it there until he 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:18.680 could get it right. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.920 They started playing together in a prison band called the Watchers. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:30.120 Lee and Kevin began writing songs side by side, songs 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:46.800 you might even recognize, like this one, can. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:51.720 Well you here my madness. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:59.040 Laughs, sorrows damn So. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:26.760 This vally. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:43.560 Bone Valley Kevin is next Part one. I'll be honest. 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.559 When Leo first told me years ago that his best 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.280 friend in prison was innocent, I was doubtful. Two men 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.120 in the same cell, both serving life for crimes they 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.920 swore they didn't commit. It sounded like the old jailhouse cliche. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.680 I carried that skepticism until le said something that made 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.200 me stop and reconsider. In all his decades inside, he 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.120 could count on one hand the number of men who 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.960 ever claimed they were truly innocent. If there's one thing 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.720 I learned about Leo is that when he told me 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.600 something was true, it was worth looking into. So I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.520 emailed Kevin my number and asked him to call me 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.880 and Enry at a Florida department of correction constitutions. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.720 To accept this call, press zero to refuse this call. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:33.400 This call is from a. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.800 Correction facility and is subject to monitoring and recording. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.320 Thank you for. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.520 Using Global Telling. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:45.280 Hell, hey, Kevin, good good. I'm sorry I missed you. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.800 I was setting up and you called and I was like, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.280 oh boy, hope he called back. As I talked to 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.840 Kevin on the phone, he talks to me about Leo 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:53.880 and their friendship. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.120 You know, Gilbert, I've known Leo for thirty five years 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.920 or thirty since ninety two, wherever that is, thirty three years. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.520 When somebody tells you that they're innocent and you're innocent, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:12.040 and it is with Leo, it just automatically connected. And 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.679 you meet a guy who is actually innocent, like Leo, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.160 and then you do anything to try to help him, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.760 because you know. The thing that binds Leo and I 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.839 together as the most I think, is that we know 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.640 exactly what it feels like to be each other. I 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.520 don't know what it's like to lose my wife, but 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.600 I know what it's like to sit there, hopeless in 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.080 a self with life sentence for something he didn't do. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.240 But eventually I ask him about the details of his case, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.240 and he gets right into it. He takes me back 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.120 to the late nineteen eighties, when he was twenty two. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.880 Kevin was living with a girlfriend in Chicago, but the 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.360 relationship was falling apart, so Kevin returned to Florida, where 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.600 he grew up and checked into a hotel. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:06.400 You know, money really tight. Figured I needed to find 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.040 some friends and you know, get back on my seat, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.160 he had established. So I was slipping through a phone book. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.599 It's nineteen eighty nine. No Facebook, no Google, no cell phone. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.760 Kevin can't afford to keep staying in a hotel, so 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.520 he looks for someone familiar to reach out to. Slipping 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.160 through the phone book, he spots a name he recognizes, Pory, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.640 the mother of a childhood friend. Pat. Kevin had grown 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.959 up just down the street from the Pory family. As 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.800 a kid, Kevin used to have sleepovers with Pat and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:39.440 his brothers. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.200 You know, all the kids would come over to Pat's 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.280 house and play one way we're younger. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.200 So he calls the house and Pat. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.280 Answers he happened to be there, picked up the phone. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.120 He said, Hey, now how's it gone? I said, know, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.280 he just came back from Chicago, staying up here. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.800 Kevin tells him he's back in town, and Pat says, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.800 I'll be there in ten minutes to pick you up. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.120 Kevin had grown up with Pat, but hadn't seen him 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.120 in years, and the man who pulled up wasn't the 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.000 one he remembered from child at. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.199 The best description I can give you of Pat is 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:16.040 he was a male stripper, great shape, very ripped up, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:21.560 six pack, dark black hair, chiseled jaw. You'd throw on 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.520 a bandana around his head or something or a headband, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:29.000 and he was the spinning image of Rambow, except extremely 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.840 shorter and small. When I first seen him, I was like, 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.320 holy cow man, look at you. Deeper voice than I remember, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.480 but the same Pat. You know, Saint Pat I met 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.640 as a kid. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.640 The two friends grab lunch and catch up on lost time. 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.400 And he says, why are you staying in a hotel? 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.480 He says, why don't you come see mom? And I 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:51.880 got a room you can stay there. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.640 Pat brings Kevin back to the same triplex where he 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.400 had sleepovers as a kid, a one floor you shaped 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:04.240 building with three connected apartments. Hat and his mom, Missus Pory, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.120 still lived in the biggest of the three, apartments at 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.520 the bottom of the U. Two young couples lived in 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.280 the other units. Missus Pory was the landlord. She owned 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:15.000 the whole building. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.480 Yeah, Risa at that time, little older probably I would 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.840 guess in her sixties. She was very short, maybe five ones. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.400 She was typical Italian mother who you know. She used 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.960 to beat me and my brother with spatula when we'd 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.920 be over there playing hyper woman, you know, I mean 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.240 she when she'd scream at you, you knew she was 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:40.320 I'll get you, you know. But a beautiful heart, just 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.840 a great mom, a neighborhood mom. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.080 But she'd aged quite a bit since Kevin had last 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:46.560 seen her. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.080 At that when we came there, she was on oxygen. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:54.520 She had a severe emphasema. She had like two hundred 0:14:54.520 --> 0:15:00.040 feet of hose and surprisingly she could get everywhere. He 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.840 would go everywhere and do everything, you know, And you 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.800 know how Italians are you walking the door and the 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.960 first thing, have you eaten and sit out? You're gonna 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.040 get something to eat. So that's kind of how she was, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.520 especially with me. So she was very open and very 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.960 welcoming for me to come stay there and get on here. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.400 And Pat and missus Pory invite Kevin to stay in 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.480 their extra bedroom. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.000 I was in the back bedroom. Pat said, Harry, stay here. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.200 It's July nineteen eighty nine. Kevin had been at the 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.800 Pories for a few weeks, and he'd wanted to show 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.000 his gratitude to missus Pory for allowing him to live 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:43.640 with them. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.800 I didn't want to just freeload off from Teresa, so 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.280 I'd go day labor, get a little bit of money, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.320 buy some cigarettes and food and whatnot, and give her 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.560 twenty bucks. So it want an a moach. Didn't want 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:57.720 to be a moch or anything. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.440 He'd also do chores on the house for missus Pory, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.360 like mowing the lawn. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.800 Through cutting the grass. I came across on the other 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.000 side and I meet Scott Barfield. 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.240 Scott Barfield is running one of the other units of 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.240 the triplex. He's around the same age as Kevin. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:16.920 Pat and I. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.760 We would be more cut off sleeve T shirt guys. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.440 Scott's more of a dress shirt guy. We probably looked 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.160 a little more rugged than he would. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.800 As Kevin mows the lawn, he sees Scott working in 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:31.320 his yard. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.360 He's out there working on a little pond that he 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.800 has out behind his sliding glass doors a little ditch, 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.480 not ditch, but a holy doug and he's got a 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.880 turtle pond. You go figure. But so we started talking 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.440 and you know, one thing leads to another. He says, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:50.840 you smoke pot. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:56.080 Yeah, sure, the hangout smoke some pot. Scott tells Kevin 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.920 that he lives with his girlfriend and their two and 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.920 a half month old son. And not long after, Kevin's 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.880 standing in the courtyard with Teresa Pori when he meets 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.399 Scott's girlfriend, Cheryl. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.760 Teresa and I are standing there for whatever reason. I'm 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.600 sure I'm smoking it because that's what I've go outside for. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.280 And how comes Cheryl Blondell comes out of the apartment 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.520 where Scott lives. So I realized, this is, you know, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.560 his girlfriend or wife or whatever. She's got her little 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.040 little baby in her arms, you know, and which is 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.119 automatic magnet for for Teresa. She sees a baby, oh 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.240 you know, runs over and so I meet her. She 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.480 was going to check her mail, and I was like, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.159 you know, she's got the little little baby bundled up, 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.920 got the little hat on him or whatever. And I said, no, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.119 I'll go out there and get check your mail for 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.000 you know problem, so that's what I did. We talked 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.880 a few minutes, and then we went about our business. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.760 While Kevin is living with the Pories, often goes out 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.880 partying at the strip club where Pat's girlfriend works. Other 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.280 nights were quieter and they cross paths with the neighbors. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.280 It's the late nineteen eighties, watching a movie Mint, driving 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.840 to the video store, renting a cassette, and hoping your 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.040 VCR didn't eat the tape. One night, Pat and Kevin 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.000 brought a video rental home but couldn't get it to play. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.600 Kevin knocked on Scott and Cheryl's door to ask for 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:32.480 a VCR cleaner. Instead, Cheryl invited them in to watch 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:33.560 the movie at her place. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:40.040 She tells us that Scott's at a bachelor party, is 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.080 going to be gone all night long, and she's home 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:43.639 by herself. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.320 Glad to have company, Cheryl puts the baby to bed, 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.000 makes popcorn. They smoke a little weed and watch Cocoon, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.639 a movie about elderly people who discover the Fountain of youth. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.679 It's set in the same Gulf Coast area of Florida 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.520 where Kevin is living with the Poories. After the movie, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.479 Pat and Kevin head back to their apartment and go 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.840 to sleep. The next night, Patt invites Kevin to go 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.520 out to the strip club for once. Kevin says, no. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.840 It's kind of ironic that the one night in my 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.520 life that I didn't want to go party, if I 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.480 would have went out and partied, I don't see this 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:25.440 ever happening to. 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.680 Hey, y'all, it's Maggie. I'm here to tell you about 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.679 a new show I've been working on for the past 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:54.160 two years. It's called Graves County and it's an investigative 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.119 series about the murder of a young mom in Kentucky 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.479 and just how far are legal system will go in 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.120 order to find someone to blame. Here is the trailer 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.520 for Graves County. 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.720 All I know is what I've been told, and that's 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.920 a half truth, is a whole lie. 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.520 For almost a decade, the murder of an eighteen year 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:22.600 old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.320 went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.440 handful of girls came forward with a story. 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.680 I'm telling you, we know, we know. 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:38.000 A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.640 and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.480 Through sheer, persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.439 justice to Jessica Current. 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.200 My name is Maggie Freeling. 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This is Graves County, a 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.960 show about just how far our legal system will go 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.480 in order to find someone to blame MARKA. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:24.800 Y'all betta work the hell up. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:30.639 Bad things happens to good people in small towns. 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.199 Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley Feed starting 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:39.639 September seventeenth on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:43.000 you get your podcasts, and to binge the entire season 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.800 ad free. Subscribe to LoVa for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.399 On the evening of July fourteenth, Kevin decides not to 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.560 go out partying with Pat. He talked to his girlfriend 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.439 earlier that day and promised her things would be different. 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.119 He was going to sober up and get his act together. So, 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.800 while Pat, dressed up looking like Rambo as usual, heads 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.280 to the strip club, Kevin drops by. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:28.320 His neighbor's place, so knock down the door. Cheryl answers, 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:31.399 you know, how's it going Scott home? She says, no, 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.959 Scott's not here? Is okay? Well, she said, come on 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.639 to be home anytime, you know, come on in. She 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:39.480 invited an inn and we sit down and let's see. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.040 They have a chess board set up. We ended up 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:43.560 playing a couple of games of chess. 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.440 When Scott gets home, he's got a couple of friends. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.800 With him, so Scott says, you know, hey, let's let's smoke, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.399 pulls out a bag of pot, rolls up a couple 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:54.800 of joints. We all smoke it. 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.120 After a while, Sheryl and Scott say they're heading out 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.600 to a drive in movie with their baby. Everyone leaves 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.120 and Kevin goes back to his apartment. Pat's still out 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.600 of the strip club, but Teresa Pori is there hooked 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.639 up to her oxygen tank. Kevin makes some hamburger helper 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.879 and offers missus Pori, a great Italian cook, a plate 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:18.280 hamburger helper. 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.680 And what she's like this is not goved. 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.560 Kevin watches some television, but he's gonna call it a night. 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:27.479 It's about eleven PM. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.840 Teresa was sitting in the kitchen. Went told her to say, 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.919 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna crash. I wouldn't say burnt 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.560 out from smoking with Scott and Cheryl, but you know, 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.520 it's a few hours later, kind of mellowed out, relaxed. 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.040 I went in, laid down, grabbed my book The Rest 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.680 of Our Lives, and read for about twenty minutes, and 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:48.480 I went to sleep. 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:56.760 What happens next would change Kevin's life forever. He told 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.719 this part of the story to Georgetown's Nick White, who 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:01.159 did Kevin in prison. 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.479 Next thing I know, Teresa wakes me up. 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:08.679 She's screaming in the room, screaming, and I don't know 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.440 how to describe her other than it's just this little 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:16.080 Italian woman who is going with Zark that the girl 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:17.800