Speaker 1: So check this out. Uh, that is the house, right,
Speaker 1: so they run out here?
Speaker 2: Tell me who was in there?
Speaker 3: Which one?
Speaker 1: So, David Nick.
Speaker 3: White and Amanda Lewis don't look like academics. If you
Speaker 3: saw them on the street with their tattoos and their
Speaker 3: restless energy, we probably guess indie music bandmates before anything
Speaker 3: to do with the law. In fact, they're a young
Speaker 3: married couple working with Georgetown University's Prison and Justice Initiative,
Speaker 3: Amanda as doctor Amanda Lewis, a lecturer and research associate,
Speaker 3: Nick in his third year of law school.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: Look at this little dog not bothering us.
Speaker 3: And they both have a weakness for dogs.
Speaker 5: Hello little dog?
Speaker 2: Hello? Hello? Who is this? Oh? Hello? Okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to this one him.
Speaker 3: This afternoon, I'm here with them in Largo, Florida, as
Speaker 3: they're doing some boots on the ground investigating on a
Speaker 3: case from nineteen eighty nine. We're walking around the neighborhood
Speaker 3: where this crime took place thirty six years ago on
Speaker 3: Florida's Gulf Coast. It's hot as hell out here, and
Speaker 3: we run into a man walking two little lap dogs.
Speaker 3: He lives down the block and he's curious about the
Speaker 3: microphone I'm holding.
Speaker 2: Are you investigating case from nineteen eighty nine?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 7: Yeah, did you?
Speaker 2: Or I'm assuming you would have been way younger.
Speaker 3: Nick and Amanda waste no time talking to the neighbor,
Speaker 3: trying to find out more information.
Speaker 1: What house was it?
Speaker 2: It's an Airbnb.
Speaker 3: Now turns out the case that they're investigating isn't just
Speaker 3: any case, or even just any wrongful conviction. What somebody
Speaker 3: passed away there or something murdered.
Speaker 2: No, it was a it was a sexual assault case
Speaker 2: and then it was interrupted. Someone was kind of slash staff.
Speaker 2: Everybody was, you know, okay, But they convicted the neighbor,
Speaker 2: who we believed had absolutely nothing to do with it,
Speaker 2: and he's been in prison for thirty six years.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The man in prison is Kevin Herrick. You might remember
Speaker 3: that name, and if you do, you might know why
Speaker 3: I'm here. Kevin is Leo Schofield's best friend. They were
Speaker 3: cellmates for more than two decades at Hardy Correctional Institutions.
Speaker 1: Hopefully, so that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 3: We're that's why we're here.
Speaker 4: We can't find.
Speaker 3: The first time I'd heard about Kevin's case, Leo was
Speaker 3: still in prison. He mentioned it to Kelsey while she
Speaker 3: was interviewing him.
Speaker 5: Kevin Herrick, who is my best friend? Who you know of?
Speaker 5: Kevin is another one doesn't belong in prison? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 5: exactly what's working on.
Speaker 3: At the time, we just knew he was the other
Speaker 3: guitarist who made music with Leo.
Speaker 5: He's an incredible guy and we've been best friends for
Speaker 5: almost the whole time we've been in prison. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't think Kevin's innocent. I know he's innocent, like
Speaker 5: I know I'm innocent.
Speaker 3: Leo and Kevin met when they were both in their twenties,
Speaker 3: soon after they were both convicted of serious crimes in
Speaker 3: the late nineteen eighties. In prison, they both came to
Speaker 3: believe in the other's innocence as fiercely as his own,
Speaker 3: and their bond was forged in the long years of
Speaker 3: unjust incarceration. But they also discovered they shared a love
Speaker 3: of rock and roll and a drive to better themselves
Speaker 3: through education. Not long after they met, back in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen nineties, they put in a request to share
Speaker 3: a cell together, and they studied each other's cases too,
Speaker 3: talking evidence and strategy late into the night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you'll drive yourself crazy. His is more insane
Speaker 5: than mine. I'm not kidding. His case is insane.
Speaker 3: They drafted pro sae motions for themselves at a time
Speaker 3: when neither had a lawyer, but the courts gave them nothing,
Speaker 3: and the decades passed spent shoulder to shoulder in the
Speaker 3: darkest places, fighting battles on paper that never seemed to
Speaker 3: reach the light of day. As they fought side by
Speaker 3: side to prove their innocence, they developed a pact.
Speaker 5: We always knew one of us has to get out
Speaker 5: so the other can get out. So, you know, because
Speaker 5: if I make it out, I'm not going to stay
Speaker 5: out knocking on doors until Sonny pays attention to Kevin.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: That's just the way that it's got to be. And
Speaker 5: I know he would do the same for me, because
Speaker 5: it's right.
Speaker 3: Four years after Leo told Kelsey about his pact with Kevin,
Speaker 3: he learned that freedom might finally be within reach. But
Speaker 3: as his release drew closer, a haunting question followed him.
Speaker 3: What if he walked out first, leaving Kevin behind. When
Speaker 3: Leo was released on parole in April twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: he made his promise to Kevin unmistakable. He walked out
Speaker 3: wearing a shirt that read Kevin is Next. I was there,
Speaker 3: and in his first hours of freedom, he didn't dwell
Speaker 3: on his own story. Instead, he turned to the fight
Speaker 3: still ahead for Kevin.
Speaker 5: And you know that's the reason why I have the
Speaker 5: Kevin is Next. You know, I'm no different than he is.
Speaker 5: I'm no better than he is, you know, because his
Speaker 5: story is the and he counts, he counts.
Speaker 3: About six months after Leo's release, I met him once
Speaker 3: again in Florida, this time in a hotel room overlooking
Speaker 3: the water. We talked about everything he'd been doing since
Speaker 3: getting out. He told me about preaching in local churches
Speaker 3: and public speaking, but he always brought it back to
Speaker 3: Kevin and the fight to prove his best friend's innocence.
Speaker 5: I will never ever be happy with him in there.
Speaker 5: I can't be happy out here. I am very happy
Speaker 5: for my family myself. I'm not saying I want to
Speaker 5: go back and live in prison. I couldn't do it now.
Speaker 5: I couldn't go back. And once you got me here
Speaker 5: and I started, you know, assimilating back into free society,
Speaker 5: there's no way I can go back to that lifestyle.
Speaker 5: But it was very difficult to leave it, and sometimes
Speaker 5: I regret leaving him there. You know, I didn't just
Speaker 5: leave him in Vietnam. I left him in the heated battlefield,
Speaker 5: you know. And it's not just he's at bay somewhere.
Speaker 5: You know, he's in the field, and it's a never
Speaker 5: ending war. At the forefront of my mind, not the
Speaker 5: back of my mind, the forefront of my mind. Mostly
Speaker 5: every waking moment, I'm trying to figure out, how are
Speaker 5: we going to get him proven innocent. The deal is
Speaker 5: one of us has to get out to get the
Speaker 5: other out. In ninety two when we met, I was
Speaker 5: playing in the rock band back then that's inside the prison,
Speaker 5: and he had an interest in playing guitar, so he
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time watching us in the band.
Speaker 5: And I remember him, you know, picking up the guitar
Speaker 5: one day and just holding it, and I said, you
Speaker 5: want to learn how to play that thing? And he
Speaker 5: kind of acted like, you know, because I know it's
Speaker 5: going to take some time. But I told him, I said,
Speaker 5: it's not as hard as your think to put something
Speaker 5: in it. And so I remember putting his fingers on
Speaker 5: the fretboard of the guitar to form a decord and
Speaker 5: when the first clause you should learn. And then he'd
Speaker 5: have his finger on the wrong place, not here, fool,
Speaker 5: and I'd move it and put it there until he
Speaker 5: could get it right.
Speaker 3: They started playing together in a prison band called the Watchers.
Speaker 3: Lee and Kevin began writing songs side by side, songs
Speaker 3: you might even recognize, like this one, can.
Speaker 7: Well you here my madness.
Speaker 3: Laughs, sorrows damn So.
Speaker 6: This vally.
Speaker 3: Bone Valley Kevin is next Part one. I'll be honest.
Speaker 3: When Leo first told me years ago that his best
Speaker 3: friend in prison was innocent, I was doubtful. Two men
Speaker 3: in the same cell, both serving life for crimes they
Speaker 3: swore they didn't commit. It sounded like the old jailhouse cliche.
Speaker 3: I carried that skepticism until le said something that made
Speaker 3: me stop and reconsider. In all his decades inside, he
Speaker 3: could count on one hand the number of men who
Speaker 3: ever claimed they were truly innocent. If there's one thing
Speaker 3: I learned about Leo is that when he told me
Speaker 3: something was true, it was worth looking into. So I
Speaker 3: emailed Kevin my number and asked him to call me
Speaker 3: and Enry at a Florida department of correction constitutions.
Speaker 4: To accept this call, press zero to refuse this call.
Speaker 4: This call is from a.
Speaker 9: Correction facility and is subject to monitoring and recording.
Speaker 4: Thank you for.
Speaker 9: Using Global Telling.
Speaker 3: Hell, hey, Kevin, good good. I'm sorry I missed you.
Speaker 3: I was setting up and you called and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh boy, hope he called back. As I talked to
Speaker 3: Kevin on the phone, he talks to me about Leo
Speaker 3: and their friendship.
Speaker 4: You know, Gilbert, I've known Leo for thirty five years
Speaker 4: or thirty since ninety two, wherever that is, thirty three years.
Speaker 4: When somebody tells you that they're innocent and you're innocent,
Speaker 4: and it is with Leo, it just automatically connected. And
Speaker 4: you meet a guy who is actually innocent, like Leo,
Speaker 4: and then you do anything to try to help him,
Speaker 4: because you know. The thing that binds Leo and I
Speaker 4: together as the most I think, is that we know
Speaker 4: exactly what it feels like to be each other. I
Speaker 4: don't know what it's like to lose my wife, but
Speaker 4: I know what it's like to sit there, hopeless in
Speaker 4: a self with life sentence for something he didn't do.
Speaker 3: But eventually I ask him about the details of his case,
Speaker 3: and he gets right into it. He takes me back
Speaker 3: to the late nineteen eighties, when he was twenty two.
Speaker 3: Kevin was living with a girlfriend in Chicago, but the
Speaker 3: relationship was falling apart, so Kevin returned to Florida, where
Speaker 3: he grew up and checked into a hotel.
Speaker 4: You know, money really tight. Figured I needed to find
Speaker 4: some friends and you know, get back on my seat,
Speaker 4: he had established. So I was slipping through a phone book.
Speaker 3: It's nineteen eighty nine. No Facebook, no Google, no cell phone.
Speaker 3: Kevin can't afford to keep staying in a hotel, so
Speaker 3: he looks for someone familiar to reach out to. Slipping
Speaker 3: through the phone book, he spots a name he recognizes, Pory,
Speaker 3: the mother of a childhood friend. Pat. Kevin had grown
Speaker 3: up just down the street from the Pory family. As
Speaker 3: a kid, Kevin used to have sleepovers with Pat and
Speaker 3: his brothers.
Speaker 4: You know, all the kids would come over to Pat's
Speaker 4: house and play one way we're younger.
Speaker 3: So he calls the house and Pat.
Speaker 4: Answers he happened to be there, picked up the phone.
Speaker 4: He said, Hey, now how's it gone? I said, know,
Speaker 4: he just came back from Chicago, staying up here.
Speaker 3: Kevin tells him he's back in town, and Pat says,
Speaker 3: I'll be there in ten minutes to pick you up.
Speaker 3: Kevin had grown up with Pat, but hadn't seen him
Speaker 3: in years, and the man who pulled up wasn't the
Speaker 3: one he remembered from child at.
Speaker 4: The best description I can give you of Pat is
Speaker 4: he was a male stripper, great shape, very ripped up,
Speaker 4: six pack, dark black hair, chiseled jaw. You'd throw on
Speaker 4: a bandana around his head or something or a headband,
Speaker 4: and he was the spinning image of Rambow, except extremely
Speaker 4: shorter and small. When I first seen him, I was like,
Speaker 4: holy cow man, look at you. Deeper voice than I remember,
Speaker 4: but the same Pat. You know, Saint Pat I met
Speaker 4: as a kid.
Speaker 3: The two friends grab lunch and catch up on lost time.
Speaker 4: And he says, why are you staying in a hotel?
Speaker 4: He says, why don't you come see mom? And I
Speaker 4: got a room you can stay there.
Speaker 3: Pat brings Kevin back to the same triplex where he
Speaker 3: had sleepovers as a kid, a one floor you shaped
Speaker 3: building with three connected apartments. Hat and his mom, Missus Pory,
Speaker 3: still lived in the biggest of the three, apartments at
Speaker 3: the bottom of the U. Two young couples lived in
Speaker 3: the other units. Missus Pory was the landlord. She owned
Speaker 3: the whole building.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Risa at that time, little older probably I would
Speaker 4: guess in her sixties. She was very short, maybe five ones.
Speaker 4: She was typical Italian mother who you know. She used
Speaker 4: to beat me and my brother with spatula when we'd
Speaker 4: be over there playing hyper woman, you know, I mean
Speaker 4: she when she'd scream at you, you knew she was
Speaker 4: I'll get you, you know. But a beautiful heart, just
Speaker 4: a great mom, a neighborhood mom.
Speaker 3: But she'd aged quite a bit since Kevin had last
Speaker 3: seen her.
Speaker 4: At that when we came there, she was on oxygen.
Speaker 4: She had a severe emphasema. She had like two hundred
Speaker 4: feet of hose and surprisingly she could get everywhere. He
Speaker 4: would go everywhere and do everything, you know, And you
Speaker 4: know how Italians are you walking the door and the
Speaker 4: first thing, have you eaten and sit out? You're gonna
Speaker 4: get something to eat. So that's kind of how she was,
Speaker 4: especially with me. So she was very open and very
Speaker 4: welcoming for me to come stay there and get on here.
Speaker 3: And Pat and missus Pory invite Kevin to stay in
Speaker 3: their extra bedroom.
Speaker 4: I was in the back bedroom. Pat said, Harry, stay here.
Speaker 3: It's July nineteen eighty nine. Kevin had been at the
Speaker 3: Pories for a few weeks, and he'd wanted to show
Speaker 3: his gratitude to missus Pory for allowing him to live
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to just freeload off from Teresa, so
Speaker 4: I'd go day labor, get a little bit of money,
Speaker 4: buy some cigarettes and food and whatnot, and give her
Speaker 4: twenty bucks. So it want an a moach. Didn't want
Speaker 4: to be a moch or anything.
Speaker 3: He'd also do chores on the house for missus Pory,
Speaker 3: like mowing the lawn.
Speaker 4: Through cutting the grass. I came across on the other
Speaker 4: side and I meet Scott Barfield.
Speaker 3: Scott Barfield is running one of the other units of
Speaker 3: the triplex. He's around the same age as Kevin.
Speaker 5: Pat and I.
Speaker 4: We would be more cut off sleeve T shirt guys.
Speaker 4: Scott's more of a dress shirt guy. We probably looked
Speaker 4: a little more rugged than he would.
Speaker 3: As Kevin mows the lawn, he sees Scott working in
Speaker 3: his yard.
Speaker 4: He's out there working on a little pond that he
Speaker 4: has out behind his sliding glass doors a little ditch,
Speaker 4: not ditch, but a holy doug and he's got a
Speaker 4: turtle pond. You go figure. But so we started talking
Speaker 4: and you know, one thing leads to another. He says,
Speaker 4: you smoke pot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, the hangout smoke some pot. Scott tells Kevin
Speaker 3: that he lives with his girlfriend and their two and
Speaker 3: a half month old son. And not long after, Kevin's
Speaker 3: standing in the courtyard with Teresa Pori when he meets
Speaker 3: Scott's girlfriend, Cheryl.
Speaker 4: Teresa and I are standing there for whatever reason. I'm
Speaker 4: sure I'm smoking it because that's what I've go outside for.
Speaker 4: And how comes Cheryl Blondell comes out of the apartment
Speaker 4: where Scott lives. So I realized, this is, you know,
Speaker 4: his girlfriend or wife or whatever. She's got her little
Speaker 4: little baby in her arms, you know, and which is
Speaker 4: automatic magnet for for Teresa. She sees a baby, oh
Speaker 4: you know, runs over and so I meet her. She
Speaker 4: was going to check her mail, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, she's got the little little baby bundled up,
Speaker 4: got the little hat on him or whatever. And I said, no,
Speaker 4: I'll go out there and get check your mail for
Speaker 4: you know problem, so that's what I did. We talked
Speaker 4: a few minutes, and then we went about our business.
Speaker 3: While Kevin is living with the Pories, often goes out
Speaker 3: partying at the strip club where Pat's girlfriend works. Other
Speaker 3: nights were quieter and they cross paths with the neighbors.
Speaker 3: It's the late nineteen eighties, watching a movie Mint, driving
Speaker 3: to the video store, renting a cassette, and hoping your
Speaker 3: VCR didn't eat the tape. One night, Pat and Kevin
Speaker 3: brought a video rental home but couldn't get it to play.
Speaker 3: Kevin knocked on Scott and Cheryl's door to ask for
Speaker 3: a VCR cleaner. Instead, Cheryl invited them in to watch
Speaker 3: the movie at her place.
Speaker 4: She tells us that Scott's at a bachelor party, is
Speaker 4: going to be gone all night long, and she's home
Speaker 4: by herself.
Speaker 3: Glad to have company, Cheryl puts the baby to bed,
Speaker 3: makes popcorn. They smoke a little weed and watch Cocoon,
Speaker 3: a movie about elderly people who discover the Fountain of youth.
Speaker 3: It's set in the same Gulf Coast area of Florida
Speaker 3: where Kevin is living with the Poories. After the movie,
Speaker 3: Pat and Kevin head back to their apartment and go
Speaker 3: to sleep. The next night, Patt invites Kevin to go
Speaker 3: out to the strip club for once. Kevin says, no.
Speaker 4: It's kind of ironic that the one night in my
Speaker 4: life that I didn't want to go party, if I
Speaker 4: would have went out and partied, I don't see this
Speaker 4: ever happening to.
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Speaker 3: On the evening of July fourteenth, Kevin decides not to
Speaker 3: go out partying with Pat. He talked to his girlfriend
Speaker 3: earlier that day and promised her things would be different.
Speaker 3: He was going to sober up and get his act together. So,
Speaker 3: while Pat, dressed up looking like Rambo as usual, heads
Speaker 3: to the strip club, Kevin drops by.
Speaker 4: His neighbor's place, so knock down the door. Cheryl answers,
Speaker 4: you know, how's it going Scott home? She says, no,
Speaker 4: Scott's not here? Is okay? Well, she said, come on
Speaker 4: to be home anytime, you know, come on in. She
Speaker 4: invited an inn and we sit down and let's see.
Speaker 4: They have a chess board set up. We ended up
Speaker 4: playing a couple of games of chess.
Speaker 3: When Scott gets home, he's got a couple of friends.
Speaker 4: With him, so Scott says, you know, hey, let's let's smoke,
Speaker 4: pulls out a bag of pot, rolls up a couple
Speaker 4: of joints. We all smoke it.
Speaker 3: After a while, Sheryl and Scott say they're heading out
Speaker 3: to a drive in movie with their baby. Everyone leaves
Speaker 3: and Kevin goes back to his apartment. Pat's still out
Speaker 3: of the strip club, but Teresa Pori is there hooked
Speaker 3: up to her oxygen tank. Kevin makes some hamburger helper
Speaker 3: and offers missus Pori, a great Italian cook, a plate
Speaker 3: hamburger helper.
Speaker 4: And what she's like this is not goved.
Speaker 3: Kevin watches some television, but he's gonna call it a night.
Speaker 3: It's about eleven PM.
Speaker 4: Teresa was sitting in the kitchen. Went told her to say,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna crash. I wouldn't say burnt
Speaker 4: out from smoking with Scott and Cheryl, but you know,
Speaker 4: it's a few hours later, kind of mellowed out, relaxed.
Speaker 4: I went in, laid down, grabbed my book The Rest
Speaker 4: of Our Lives, and read for about twenty minutes, and
Speaker 4: I went to sleep.
Speaker 3: What happens next would change Kevin's life forever. He told
Speaker 3: this part of the story to Georgetown's Nick White, who
Speaker 3: did Kevin in prison.
Speaker 8: Next thing I know, Teresa wakes me up.
Speaker 7: She's screaming in the room, screaming, and I don't know
Speaker 7: how to describe her other than it's just this little
Speaker 7: Italian woman who is going with Zark that the girl
Speaker 7: next door is being raped.
Speaker 8: She's shaking me. I wake up. I look at her,
Speaker 8: I hear what she's saying. I jump up. I call
Speaker 8: on my shorts and I run to the front of
Speaker 8: the door.
Speaker 7: When I come out Teresa's door, Cheryl's standing to my
Speaker 7: right holding her baby, and she's screaming over and over.
Speaker 7: And when I say screaming, she is screaming. She's not
Speaker 7: just saying don't leave me, don't leave me, but she
Speaker 7: is screaming, don't leave me, don't leave me, don't leave me,
Speaker 7: don't leave me.
Speaker 3: Kevin says that at this point it's just him, missus Pori,
Speaker 3: and Cheryl with the baby standing outside in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night.
Speaker 7: It's got to be within a minute. It can't be
Speaker 7: more than a minute, two minutes if that, Scott's coming
Speaker 7: down the walkway towards me.
Speaker 3: Scott, his neighbor, who usually looks put together, is running
Speaker 3: up the sidewalk towards the triplex. He's frantic yelling a
Speaker 3: series of numbers and letters a license plate he's just seen.
Speaker 7: He's scraming it over and over and over, and he's
Speaker 7: adding right down, he might.
Speaker 3: Kevin says, that's when the neighbor in the third unit, David,
Speaker 3: comes outside.
Speaker 8: Tell David get a piece of paper.
Speaker 7: He runs back in his door, grabs scraps piece of paper,
Speaker 7: comes out, writes down license plate number.
Speaker 3: David says he'll call the police. Kevin turns to Scott.
Speaker 3: He's out of breath, his shirt unbuttoned.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at him. I can see his chest. He's
Speaker 7: got two puncture marks and he's bleeding. He's breathing hards.
Speaker 7: Chest is in and out.
Speaker 3: Scott tells Kevin what happened. That he'd walked into his
Speaker 3: apartment and interrupted a man's sexually assaulting sh Arrol in
Speaker 3: their bedroom. The man slashed Scott twice with a knife
Speaker 3: for a scalpel, ran out the door, and Scott chased
Speaker 3: him down the street, but the assailant escaped over a
Speaker 3: backyard fence to a parking lot. That's where Scott said
Speaker 3: he thought he saw the assailant getting into a car,
Speaker 3: so Scott memorized the plate then ran back home.
Speaker 7: He says, man, I chased the guy to a car.
Speaker 7: The guy got away in the car. This is a
Speaker 7: license plate number, I said David Scott that he's getting
Speaker 7: it to the police.
Speaker 8: I said, okay, okay, and I'm looking at it. He's looking.
Speaker 3: Kevin says he told Scott the police were on their
Speaker 3: way and that he should probably deal with the weed
Speaker 3: in his apartment.
Speaker 7: You got your stuff sitting in the livery room. You
Speaker 7: need to go put away your pot. He's got a bong,
Speaker 7: he's got all kinds of crap. And I said, the
Speaker 7: cops are come. They're going to come. You don't need
Speaker 7: to get, you know, busted for possession of weed.
Speaker 8: So he says, yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes in there.
Speaker 8: She stays out there.
Speaker 7: She didn't necessarily go, and she probably went in and
Speaker 7: out a couple times before, but she stayed there with
Speaker 7: me and Teresa David standing there.
Speaker 3: The neighbors stand out front, shaken, unsettled, trying to make
Speaker 3: sense of what just happened. Then police cars and an
Speaker 3: ambulance pull up. Kevin says he waved them in, directed
Speaker 3: them where to go, and then stayed outside with the
Speaker 3: other neighbors. As officers began their investigation.
Speaker 7: Officer Crosby comes over, ask me who I am, what's
Speaker 7: my birthday, social Security number? And what do I know
Speaker 7: about what happened? Those are the four things this man
Speaker 7: asked me. He didn't ask me.
Speaker 3: He tells police he doesn't know what happened. That missus
Speaker 3: Pory woke him up and he ran outside to find
Speaker 3: ryl screaming and Scott rushing up the sidewalk with blood
Speaker 3: on his chest. Scott is taken to the hospital by ambulance.
Speaker 3: Kevin goes back inside to sit with missus Pory, who
Speaker 3: is upset by everything that's happened that night. A few
Speaker 3: hours later, there's a knock on the door.
Speaker 7: I don't take nothing up and I opened the door.
Speaker 7: There's the cops. I actually say, Kevin, can we talk
Speaker 7: to you. Let's say absolutely a step, go to step
Speaker 7: out there, grab me, throw me on the ground, handcuff
Speaker 7: may picked me up, and a cop says, we found
Speaker 7: your fingerprints on that door, pointing to Scott and Cheryl's door.
Speaker 8: You're the one who did this.
Speaker 9: Least because the.
Speaker 3: Sun is beginning to set over the Gulf and we're
Speaker 3: walking on the sidewalk outside the triplex. Three decades ago,
Speaker 3: in this very apartment, Kevin was reading a book called
Speaker 3: The Rest of Our Lives, A quiet night turning ages
Speaker 3: until it ended in chaos, police bursting in handcuffs, County
Speaker 3: jail next door. Something had happened in Scott and Cheryl's apartment,
Speaker 3: something that would change Kevin's life forever. He was convicted
Speaker 3: of aggravated battery, burglary and sexual battery. Sentenced to life
Speaker 3: in prison without parole, where he remains today.
Speaker 2: All lif y'all want to say, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: Kevin's on the phone.
Speaker 1: Also, you're you're now here with Gilbert and a microphone
Speaker 1: is shoved up to the speakerphone.
Speaker 3: Hi, Kevin, what's that be over?
Speaker 8: How are you?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good man.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I'm thinking they just called count time they did.
Speaker 4: I can't believe I've been waiting.
Speaker 3: An hour and a half to get on the phone.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Man, it's great talking to you guys.
Speaker 7: Obviously a big weekend.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna have to go with Doug if you.
Speaker 8: Have one remaining.
Speaker 1: To bite.
Speaker 3: In our next bonus episode of Bone Valley, we'll uncover
Speaker 3: what happened that night and why Nick and Amanda now
Speaker 3: believe they found evidence that could finally prove Kevin Herrick
Speaker 3: is an innocent man.