1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. The Ravens take 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: a frustrating Maybe it's the right word. I don't know how. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: We'll have some other words for this one. Tough twenty 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: two to nineteen loss to Indianapolis Colts in Week three. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was one of the more 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: frustrating ones in recent memory for me. I mean, I 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: think in the NFL, you teams often lose games more 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: often than they win games. We're not used to seeing 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: that a lot in Baltimore. Yeah, they generally don't lose games. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: That's a big harballism. Right, they lost this game. You 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: just lost this game. 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: They had plenty of opportunities, and they made mistakes really, 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: I would say all three phases, but particularly on the 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: offensive side. 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: They couldn't close out the game. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: They had plenty of opportunities at the end of regulation 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: and into overtime, and you also had miscuse on special teams, 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: which hurt you. It was just a game that, like 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: it fell, felt like the Ravens could have won it 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: twenty different times. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Yep. 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: It was just like okay, okay, all right, all right, 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: that was a little scary. Well now here, it's an overtime, 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: nice skick return by Devin Duvernet and go get ten 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: yards and Justin Tucker comes. 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: Out and boots the game winning field goal. 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: Okay, well okay, you know that didn't work out. You 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: get the ball back again. Okay, it's gonna work out here. 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Stuff them on fourth down at midfield. 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: You know it's a little scary there, but we got 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: the safety. 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Oh I had ugly win typed up five different times. 34 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah's getting an ugly win. And I'll tell you for 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: everybody that complains about the ugly wins, I'll take one 36 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: of those right now. 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 38 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 2: It just felt like there were so many different times 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: where it felt like the conversation was going to be 40 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: a little closer and expected, a little uglier than expected. 41 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: But collective side, collective exhale, the Ravens foud a way 42 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: to get it done, and they just couldn't. They couldn't 43 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: put the game away when they had the opportunity to 44 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: do it. And you just leave like so frustrated because 45 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: it was sitting right there for you and you just 46 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: couldn't make it happen. 47 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: Well, multiple players after the game said, yeah, we we 48 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: thought we had it we thought we had it, you know, 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: and when Gardner Minshew steps out of the back of 50 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: the end zone, it's a safety. You're getting the ball 51 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: back with about two minutes left on offense and a 52 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: three point lead. You got the ball. Yeah, Like you're 53 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: up by three with the ball. Yeah. To not close 54 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: it out after that is a pretty tough blow. 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: Well, let's just start there and then we can kind 56 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: of go. 57 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: I think we gotta rewind. You can't start at the 58 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: end because the four turnovers, the four fumbles on four 59 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: straight drives in the first half definitely played a big part. 60 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think this game, it felt like this 61 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: was a game that the Raves were kind off to 62 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: the races in early on, and then the Canyon Drake fumble. 63 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Even on that play, he's into it, he's deep than 64 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: to Indianapolis Territory. You feel like, Okay, the Raves are 65 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: gonna march down the field and get another touchdown, go 66 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: up fourteen nothing, and then it's going to be party 67 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: time at Mtbay Stadium. He fumbles and then all of 68 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: a sudden, the offense basically combusts. Yeah, like for the 69 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: rest of the first half and into the second half, 70 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: doesn't do much of anything, you know, for about two 71 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: quarters yea, and it just felt like it was going 72 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: one direction. And then again when that happens that all 73 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden, things completely kind of fall apart there 74 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: for the offense and Lamar has a turnover. It just 75 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: was out of Syncty weren't getting any first sounds. They 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: weren't moving the ball at all. They looked out of 77 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: synct they looked its organized. It just it wasn't working 78 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: at all. 79 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was it was ball security, right, 80 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean it was fumbles and you know, you can say, well, 81 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: you know it's raining and and all that, but both 82 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: teams are playing in the rain. Yeah, right, I mean, 83 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: and so you have Originally the Kenyan Drake fumbles kind 84 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: of starts it. Yeah, that starts it. Then Lamar Jackson 85 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: takes sack, fumbles, scoops it up himself. Next drive, Lamar 86 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: fumbles on a which one was this? This was the 87 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: low snap? 88 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah right? 89 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Then the then another fumble on Lamar passed that he 90 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: brings it down and gets his arm hit. Yeah, yeah, 91 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: the reverse I have that verse. Okay, there's too many yeah, yeah, 92 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: brings it down and then it's his arm hit. I 93 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: mean just you just you know, going into the game, 94 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the conditions, you know, against the Colts team that you're 95 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: better than. I mean, Coults are a good team. I 96 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: think they were a better team than probably people gave 97 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: him credit for. And going into this game, considering all 98 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens injuries, you and I were both saying to 99 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: each other, this is not the like, gimme that that 100 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: people are making it out to me. I mean, it 101 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: was the who's who of injured players here should we 102 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: run down the list? Let's not forget Ronnie Standy, Ronnie Stanley, 103 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, Marcus Williams, Marlon Humphrey, Odell Beckham, Junior Justice Hill, 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and who I'm missing there's another big time starter. There's 105 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: too many to even keep track of these days. Yeahs, right, 106 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: And so that's the who's That's a lot of really 107 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: good players on your team, some of your best, right, 108 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: and when you're without them, that hurts, right, And I 109 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: think that we were all a little bit u falsely 110 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: convinced that, like those injuries didn't matter as much as 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: they do. By the win in Cincinnati, right, when you 112 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: overcome all that and you play as well as the 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Ravens did in Cincinnati. It's kind of like, it doesn't 114 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: matter that we're missing some of five, you know, five 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: of our best players. Yeah, it doesn't matter. We're good. 116 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Did you see what we did in Cinci? Right, and 117 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: then you come into this, well, there's those guys still 118 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: aren't back, right, and to have a repeat performance is 119 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: a high bar, right, Like that was extraordinary what they 120 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: did in Cincinnati. To expect that again was gonna be tough. 121 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: With that said, I still think the Ravens obviously should 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: have won this game. I still think they're the better team. 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: And and you give away games like this, You lose 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: games like this by making mistakes like four straight fumbles 125 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: and Forestry drives. 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think I I'm with you, and like, 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's I'm not at all. Just 128 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: kind of those injuries, I mean they're major. You know, 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: you have what of your salary caps? 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was over over twenty five five, so. 131 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: You have you have a quarter plus of your salary 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: cap not even in the game. However, like the Culture 133 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: were without their starting quarterback, they're running back totally. The 134 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: best running back in football is not on the field 135 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: without one of their starting offensive linemen. 136 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: So like I'm not it's just part of it. 137 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: That's part of it, Like both teams are dealing with 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: like if if Lamar, like the colt didn't have a 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: starting quarterback. Now, I thought Garden rich who came out there, 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: played really well. He's a veteran, he's done it in 141 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: this league. But like Anthony Richards is a starter and 142 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: he did not play today. So like I'm not necessarily 143 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: going to chalk it up to injuries. And like you said, 144 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: like the Ravens had their opportunities. They were there, they 145 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: had chances that. 146 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: You know you that's what I'm not saying. You can 147 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: chalk it up to injuries. I'm saying that's a factor 148 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: in the game. But no, they should What I'm saying 149 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: is despite all that, they still should have won this game. Huh. 150 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: And the way that you lose games is by playing 151 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: as sloppily as they did in the first half, and 152 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: then as sloppily as as they did in the four 153 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: late and the fourth quarter in overtime. I mean, offensively, 154 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: they had it that I just I can't put You 155 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: can't put this on defense. Sure, they gave up over 156 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: one hundred rushing yards or right about to Zach Moss, 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, though you can't. You can't do that offensively 158 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: in overtime. I mean, you got two chances with the 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: ball nearly midfield, and you have the best kicker in 160 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the world. You basically need ten yards sure, ten to fifteen, 161 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and that might not even and you got two chances 162 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to get it. 163 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, you might not even need that much. Like you know, 164 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: on the one that they ended up it would have 165 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: been a sixty two yard field goal attempt. They opted 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: to punt that justin Tucker came up short from sixty one, 167 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: so they opt to punt from as rather than take 168 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: the sixty two yard attempt. If they had gotten three 169 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: yards and it's a fifty nine yard attempt, they might 170 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: have said, let's go ahead and give it another chance 171 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: here like so, you really don't may not even need 172 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: ten yards. You may have needed another five to put 173 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: yourself in a position to attempt that field goal, and 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: they and they couldn't do it. And then even at 175 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: the end of regulation, if you get a first down, 176 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: the game's over now. 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's they were able to do it last week. 178 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go into that I mean that's the 179 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: other really frustrating part of this is, I mean, they 180 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: flubbed the end of the game. They flubbed the clock management. 181 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: That whole situation was just totally flubbed. 182 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: So set the stage here again. 183 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so they get the safety and that 184 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: makes it a nineteen to sixteen game. Party time MC 185 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: Bay Stadium is rocking. Everyone's feeling like this is all right, 186 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: game's over, you know. Again, had a little scare, but 187 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: you feel really good about it. And initially they did 188 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: show the clock to be under the two minute warning, 189 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: so that the two minute warning. 190 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Where were supposed to stop the clock was partying and 191 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: they didn't stop the clock. 192 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: So then they did look at that play and they 193 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: just confirmed it he stepped out of the back of 194 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: the end zone, and then they did move the clock 195 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: up to then there's two oh three on the clock 196 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: at that point. So then they kick off and Zay 197 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: Flowers catches that kickoff. It's a free part for the 198 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: free kick. It's a Flowers catches it fair catch. By 199 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: doing the fair catch, no time runs off the clock, 200 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: and so you basically give the Colts a free time 201 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 2: out there because you don't use the timeout as part 202 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: of that kickoff, and he runs around for three seconds 203 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: and then that's the two minute warning. Instead, it's a 204 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: fair catch. Is they basically get an extra time out 205 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: there allows them they only had one time out left. 206 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: They only had one time out left at that time, 207 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: and so then that allows them to stop the clock there. 208 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: And of course the Rams have to give the ball back. 209 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: Colts skid and they come around. 210 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: They sat after that. You run it for one yard, 211 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: you hit the two minute warning, so you've only run 212 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: three seconds off the clock. 213 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and to explain that, John Harbor was 214 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: asked kind of what happened on that play, and he 215 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: said after the game that once they added the time 216 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: back on the clock, that they try to communicate it 217 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: out to the field, but they had already they weren't 218 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: able to get that message out to the field. 219 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: They called for a fair catch when they thought it 220 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: was under two minutes. They said, just fair catch it 221 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: the game's practically over. Yeah, just no more fumbles. Yeah, basically, 222 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and but then once they put more time on the clock, 223 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: they were not able to get the change the play 224 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: basically to Zay to get the word to him, you 225 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: got to run out three seconds here. 226 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what happened. So then they get yeah. 227 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: So then they get the ball Melvin Gordon, no gain, 228 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: they only run three seconds off or for one yard. 229 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: Then they go back to Melvin Gordon, they get no yards. 230 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: Then they take a time out, take a time out. 231 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: Then it's then it's zay end around. 232 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: And well, the problem there is that Nelson Aguilore gets 233 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: called for an illegal block above the waist, which stops 234 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the clock. Yep. So now you've run fifteen seconds off. 235 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: And they only had one time out. 236 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Fifteen seconds and they had to use one timeout yep. 237 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: And so now they basically get they get the ball 238 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: back with one forty one left, and then they go 239 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: down they kick the field goal. 240 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Right, I mean yeah, I mean after the safety, it 241 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: felt like it felt like everybody thought the game was 242 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: done basically, and it should. 243 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: Have been, as you turned in your story. 244 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Yet I was about ready to hit say ready, it's 245 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: end of that one, and then they hit the ball 246 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: with one one You're like, wait a second, they're only 247 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: down a field goal. I mean, that's all the time 248 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: in the world to go get a field goal, especially 249 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: with their kicker bombing them from fifty plus yards the 250 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: whole game. 251 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: And it was it was just, you know, it was 252 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: all thirty four yard punt there by Jordan Stout. 253 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: Right, and then and then for some reason Stout hits 254 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: a skyball instead of punting it to I mean special teams. 255 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Was like it was, the story was all over the place. 256 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, one second, Stout hits a bomb down the 257 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: field that's down at like the one yard line, two 258 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: yard line safety, right, he hits a great punt to 259 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the two, and you're like, oh, yeah, special team's huge 260 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: gets you know, that sets up the safety. Then then 261 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: he hits a skyball for a thirty four yard punt. Yeah, 262 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean why, Yeah, I don't understand that one. 263 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was intentional. I'm gonna guess 264 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: that wasn't intentional. Maybe they wanted to limit the return. 265 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: They may say that's just we want to limit the 266 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: return here. I don't know, but either way, it's only 267 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: a thirty four yard punt. And then the Colts get 268 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: the ball at the thirty eight they don't have to 269 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: go that far. And then they go down the field, 270 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: they march and they ended up kicking fifty three yard 271 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: field goal to send the game at overtime. 272 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Right, it's just to stand on special teams for a second. 273 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you Rene gets a great has a great return 274 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: in overtime on a punt. Well, how long was his? 275 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh, thirty one yards? 276 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, thirty one yard return. And you're like, 277 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: all right, specialty use redeems itself. Yeah, just when I thought, 278 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and and so just wild, just wild 279 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: all over the place, the special teams, and they had 280 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: a long punt return earlier in the game. 281 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: The other thing too, that we're kind of leaving out 283 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: the series too, you know, the Colts, it was like 284 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: the last there was like no time running off the clock. 285 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: The Colts get the ball with one forty left and 286 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: they go down to the kick a field goal. And also 287 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens get the ball back with fifty seven seconds. 288 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: You have to like, wait, there wasn't even a minute 289 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: they went off went off the clock. 290 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: Right, You're like, good job Camary catching if you saved 291 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: some time. 292 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: So then the Ravens get the ball and they and 293 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: they you know, move the ball down a to give 294 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: Tucker the shot he was on. He just came up 295 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: a little bit short. You know, it's it's I'm not 296 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: you know, you don't put. 297 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Well, you're in you're in range, you're at the thirty 298 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: seven and you take a ten yards yeah, or you're 299 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're at the forty nine first and ten 300 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: from the forty nine. You're on their side of the field. Yeah, no, sorry, yeah, 301 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. Yeah. 302 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: And then it's and then and then it's a you 303 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: were just one yard shot their side of the field. Yes, 304 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: but it's then Lamar gets sacked. You take a sack, yeah, 305 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: just brutal. Now he gets most of it back on 306 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: that past to Agalard that sets up the field goal, 307 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: but you know it just comes. 308 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Up short, a little bit short, literally short. Yeah. Yeah, 309 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: so right. You know you're hoping that Tucker can be 310 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: the hero there at the end, not able to do 311 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it from sixty one. 312 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: Ye, and he's done that, you know. 313 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: He said after the game he felt like he hit 314 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: it great, felt like he was lined up well, felt 315 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: like everything kind of was right. It felt right, but 316 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: it didn't go in right. 317 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: Then you're on the overtime. We're gonna review this. 318 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if we need to go play by 319 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: playing overtime, you. 320 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: Know, well, I mean the offense, you throw a ball 321 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: behind day Flowers, He's wide open on third and whatever 322 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: it was, I mean third and six from the forty four. Well, 323 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: you picked you you convert that pass, it's the game's 324 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: probably the Tucker's in comfortable range. Yeah, if that pass 325 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: is completed, he's in comfortable range. 326 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: And this was on the first series that the Ravens 327 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: had of overtime when. 328 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: Third all right, third and six from the forty four. 329 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: Now, the passes behind day Flowers, you know, I thought 330 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: it was interesting. On the broadcast, James Lofton made the 331 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: point that, you know, it's it's tough to tell whether 332 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: is Zay supposed to sit down at that spot and 333 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: then or or if Lamar just threw it behind him. 334 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know where the fault lies there. 335 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: Anyway you look at it. It was an incomplete pass 336 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: when the Ravens only needed a few yards again, so that. 337 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: Would have been a sixty two yards. 338 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: So if you just get a few yards again, like 339 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: maybe he Jay gets the first down. If he doesn't 340 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: get the first down, then maybe you just end up 341 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: coming out there and kicking a fifty eight yard fieldal. 342 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Right, like that right, I mean, yeah, that's frustrating. That 343 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: is very frustrating that you give you give it back, 344 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: so then you have to punt. You punt to them, 345 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: they get to about midfield again and you stuff them 346 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: four fourth and one, stuff them at midfield. You got 347 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: the ball at the forty six. 348 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're own forty six. 349 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Yep, your own forty six. The thing was, you know, 350 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: and they were running the ball really well with Lamar 351 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: for much of the game. I mean that's what we saw. Basically, 352 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: the offense started stumbing his toe fumbling the ball. They said, 353 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna put the ball on the mar's hands. 354 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna let our playmaker make these plays. Right, It 355 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: went back to that. 356 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had fourteen carries for one hundred one yards. 357 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: He was the best offensive weapon of the Rays had 358 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: him him running the ball one hundred percent. 359 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: They did not get the passing game. I mean, no 360 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: receiver had over fifty yards, had fifty yards yep, Zay 361 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Flowers eight for forty eight. I mean it was they 362 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: took no shots down the field. I literally can't remember one, right, 363 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: and so it was just dink and dunk offense on 364 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: a rainy I mean I gotta say, there's the chance 365 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: that we get more rain this season. Yeah, you got 366 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: to be able to do more offensively than that. 367 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just chalk it up to a rainy 368 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: day and that's what happens on the raindew. 369 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: You have to operate better than that. Yeah, despite rain totally. 370 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: And so I mean they're just didn't getting dunk in 371 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the whole way and ended up saying, you know what, 372 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Lamar's our best Lamar run the balls, our best chance 373 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: here fourteen for one oh one. But then in overtime, 374 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't really happen. 375 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: He didn't run the ball at all and overtime and 376 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: it's not like those are a fourteen called run. Some 377 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: of those are scrambles, of course, but you know I 378 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: was wondering if they were, because it seemed like there 379 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: was at big moments in the game, you know, two touchdowns, 380 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: he had two touchdowns that they would they would run 381 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: the design run. I mean the one the second touchdown 382 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: in particular, you know the little draw play it mustaf 383 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: gets out and blocks for him, and Lamar has a 384 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: great vision. It gets into the end zone like that 385 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: was a that was a beautiful play. Yeah, And I 386 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: thought that. 387 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: I was. 388 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: I was like thinking that was gonna happen on one 389 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: of these series an overtime, and it's like, Okay, here's 390 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: a Lamar draw where he just weaves in and out 391 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: of traffic and picks up eight yards and then you 392 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: talker comes out there and kicks the game winner. 393 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: It felt like it was setting up for that and 394 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: it just didn't happen. 395 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm sure, you know, maybe Todd Munkin will 396 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: speak to that on Thursday. But you know, it's also 397 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: it's you had the opportunities, right, I mean the ball 398 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: to Day is right, it was wide open there. It 399 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: was there, right, So it's hard to say, like, you know, 400 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to question the play calling here. The plays that were 401 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: called should have worked one hundred percent. Sure, dude's wide open, yeah, 402 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: for what could should have probably been a first down. 403 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: Even if it's not a first down, which it would 404 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: have been, then uring field goal range, like easier field 405 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: goal range, right. 406 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: Because you're already on the fringe to any yard. 407 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: Right, which then right, second possession, second possession of overtime. 408 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar puts it right in Isaiah Likely's stomach 409 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: and he drops it. 410 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: Yep. 411 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean play call was fine. 412 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, totally. That would have been a first down 413 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: and that would have kept the drive all out of there. 414 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: And then again that you only need you know, you know, oh. 415 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: You could place the ball to likely it's it's practically done. 416 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: You're basically there. It's right on that, it's right on 417 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: the fringe. 418 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they go for fourth and three from the forty 419 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: seven gutsy call. Three twenty five left. You know, do 420 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: you punt that one away? 421 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you go for it. 422 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: You've been really putting a lot on your defense in 423 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: that situation. They had already gotten two stops in overtime. 424 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you can try to punt it and 425 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: pin them back, you know, at the inside the ten 426 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: yard line. Maybe you're able to do that, but I 427 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: don't know. There's there's three twenty five left at that point, 428 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: you have a two minute warning. You have one time 429 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: out left at that spot. 430 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: I guess you could have if you just have They 431 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: used one. They use the timeout already. 432 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: Just set up that fourth down. You said they had 433 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: that they. 434 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Had one more. Yeah, you're right, so you could have 435 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: if you just. 436 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: Brought out the punt team right away, then you don't 437 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: use that timeout then you have two I mean, look, 438 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: you could have done that, you could have like pinned 439 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: them back, but you went with the aggressive approach. And 440 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: I think that like said, we're not gonna put our 441 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: defense back out there again and expect them to get 442 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: another stop and a tough situation. It's a sudden death point, 443 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: Like it's hard for me to follow the decision to 444 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: go for it on fourth and three. 445 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: There. 446 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like the aggressiveness at that spot and 447 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: they just weren't able to do it. 448 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: That is correct. 449 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and then 450 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: we'll give you some more thoughts on this game and 451 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: also look ahead to what the Ravens have on the horizon. 452 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Are you're listening to the Launch podcast, We're coming to 453 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: you from the Seat Geeks Studio. 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You have to be twenty one 463 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 2: or older and physically president in Maryland to play. So, 464 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think that we've we've hit the frustration 465 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: here pretty great. 466 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I think so. I think we've I feel I don't know, 467 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm feeling more frustrated now after having this 468 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of conversation. 469 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: You know, I thought that a couple other notes that 470 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: I have just on this game. You know, this is 471 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton was awesome, He was credible. You know, they 472 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: moved him back into the nickel role, or Darius Washington 473 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: goes down, Hamilton moves back into that role in this game. 474 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a this game thing, or 475 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: if that's a how the Ravens are going to approach 476 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: things moving forward. I think that's something that is interesting 477 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: and curious because I thought he was playing great at 478 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: safety too. But he goes back to the nickel role 479 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: and has three sacks in his first half back in 480 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: the nickel role. 481 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 3: So hey, not bad. 482 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: So exactly he was. 483 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: He also had a pass deflection. He was just all 484 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: over the field. 485 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's he has emerged in his 486 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: second season as one of the best players on this defense. 487 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: So I'm really excited. 488 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: By what he was the best defensive player on the field. 489 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: He was the Ravens best player on the field probably, 490 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, he had a great game. 491 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: Then the other thing is, you know, moving forward, I 492 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: think the Ravens are you know, the running back situation 493 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: is is is difficult for this team right now. 494 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards. Gus Edwards usually in the concussion protocol. 495 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they it was never announced whether he 496 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: did in fact have a concussion, but he didn't come 497 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: back in the game, so you can you know, that 498 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: leads you to believe that he did or at least, 499 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: you know, seem to be indicating that he did. So 500 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: is he going to be available next week in Cleveland? 501 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: Who knows. We'll see. Time will tell there. But obviously 502 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: they're already down JK. 503 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 3: Dobbins. 504 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: Well, and that's part of you know, when you talk 505 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: about not being to finish a game. Gus Edwards is 506 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: a pretty darn good closer. 507 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: He's a great closer. 508 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: So he's down and Justice Hill obviously was down too, 509 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know if the Justice Hill thing will 510 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: if he'll be back in a week. Toe injuries or 511 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: running back are tough. Foot tough to predict. Yeah, foot injury, 512 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: foot injury, you know, so that's you know, tough to predict. 513 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: How long that takes, you. 514 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: Know, So they're I mean, they're thin. I mean, Kenyan 515 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: Drake here the second series, you know, just got signed 516 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: three days ago. Now, I know he was with the Ravens, 517 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, last season, but he wasn't in this offense. 518 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: It's a whole new offense, and so there's not that 519 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: much familiarity. There's some not that much, right, it's getting 520 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: touches on the second series of the game. I mean, 521 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: at first he caught the ball and got loose. I'm like, 522 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: here we go, Kenny and Drake, and then he fumbled. 523 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, when you're trying to close out 524 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: a game and you're down to Kenny and Drake and 525 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, it's not a good position to be in. 526 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 527 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: I mean, And and here's the thing with with the 528 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: running backs moving forward, Like you could be in a 529 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: situation here where you're looking at. 530 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 531 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: I mean you could be going into a game where 532 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: it's those are your two running backs, depending on the 533 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: injury situation. For Gus they have oh and right practice squad. Yes, 534 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: they could activate him. Keith Mitchell's currently on injured reserve. 535 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: He could come back after you know. 536 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: He needs one more game though. 537 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's going to be at least one more 538 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: game and I'm not sure what his status is. So yeah, 539 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: the running back situation is, you know, it's it's difficult 540 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: right now. 541 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and and you lost. He went out a 542 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: jobo I mean outside linebacker too. Yeah, Ojabe went out 543 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: with an ankle early in the game, didn't return. I 544 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: mean you're down to Clowney, Tavius Robinson, and Jeremiah Moon. 545 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 546 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean you can use Malie Harrison out there, you 547 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: can use Trenton SIPs. I mean, every every healthy Raven 548 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: dress for this game. Yea, every single week. 549 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, the inactives, you know, we prepped inactive stuff on Friday. 550 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: You guys just get that one ready for Friday. To 551 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: say it was a copy paste, I mean it was done. Yeah, 552 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: you knew who was going to be active. They had 553 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: to cut Josh Johnson over the weekend because they didn't 554 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: have the roster. You play running back and outside linebacker. Seriously, 555 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: Now you hope, you hope. 556 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: That you maybe get these guys back. 557 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: And that's the positive on the injury front is that 558 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: John Harball has not indicated that these are long term 559 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: serious things for these guys who haven't gone on injured reserve. 560 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: So could Marlon Humphrey come back this week? Good O'Dell 561 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 2: Beckham come back this week? I think all that is, 562 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: you know, potentially an option. How long is Marcus Williams 563 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: gonna be out? All all questions that you know, we 564 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: don't have answers to right now. But you hope that 565 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: maybe some of those guys are able to come back 566 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: and play this week because now you have a really 567 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: tough You go at Cleveland, who won today. Be Tennessee 568 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: look good, you know, after a game with a loose 569 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: Chubb and and it's like their defense is legit. Their 570 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: defense is legit. It's gonna be tough to move the 571 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: ball on them. So they just got a really good 572 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: win against Tennessee. Then you add in the fact that 573 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: then you go to then you go to Pittsburgh and 574 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: then you go to London like, those those are three 575 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: tough those are well, Tennessee, three tough games all the 576 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: all in the conference, physical teams, physical teams, and that's 577 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: gonna be tough sledding for this team. 578 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Well, really, I think I think the Ravens have a 579 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: chance to get some of these guys back that have 580 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: been out for multiple games now. John Harwall even said 581 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: as much on Friday that they thought they were going 582 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: to have maybe get some of those guys back or 583 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: a couple of those guys back, and they just didn't 584 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: this week, and you were kind of hoping, like, can 585 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: they do it one more time? Can they pull out 586 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: a win against the Colts at home? You know? Can 587 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: you can you get by with all these injuries for 588 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: one more game and then you'll have some of these 589 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: guys come back. They'll have you know, had time to 590 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: get fully healthy, and you'll have them back for that 591 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: big stretch of three straight on the road, two of 592 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: which being against divisional opponents, and so like, when you're 593 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: so close and you should have had that win, and 594 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: the factor in all the injuries and stuff too of like, man, 595 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: if you had just gotten that wind in hell, if 596 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: it's ugly when I don't care, and then we get healthy, 597 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: go down there, go to Cleveland. You know, you're you're 598 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: feeling really good about where you're sitting, and now it's 599 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: just like all the wind in the Ravens sales is 600 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: just dead, just dead, and so that really hurts. One 601 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: thing we didn't talk about, by the way, that we're 602 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: not really allowed to talk about too much, is the 603 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: lack of a pass interference call and Zave Flowers, right, 604 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's fourth, I mean that was the play, 605 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: fourth and three. Yeah, on their second overtime drive. I 606 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: mean guy tackles Zay Flowers before the ball gets there. Nope. 607 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, John Harvest said, no explanation there. Lamar Jackson was 608 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: asked about it. You know, he's he's gonna be hesitant 609 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: to criticized officials in a postgame press conference, that's correct, 610 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: but he you know, he just kind of laughed and 611 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, saw what you saw, you know, Yeah, 612 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: And I was surprised. I was really surprised they didn't 613 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: throw the flag there. In those situations, it seems like 614 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: more often than not, if a guy on offense gets hit, 615 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, if it's questionable, it feels like generally speaking, 616 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: the refs shy, you know, they tend. 617 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: To the offense. 618 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: It seems that way. It seems that way, but not 619 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: in this instance. 620 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: No, not in and like again, they had. 621 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 3: Other opportunities and they could have done it. 622 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: And I think, oh, there's also a face mask penalty 623 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: on z Flowers and uh at the end of the regulation, 624 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: one of those ones that Nelson Aguiler got called for 625 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: the legal block. It was a blatant yeah, yeah, blatant 626 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: face mask that didn't get called. I don't know whether 627 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: the clock stops on offsetting penalties or not, but that 628 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: would have been something. 629 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 630 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: So it's just add it to the list of things 631 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: that like. 632 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: The frustrations of a collection. 633 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: Of things that went wrong. They just prevented the Ravens 634 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: from winning this game. It's it's all frustrating, and I 635 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: think that like there's there's this game more than recent 636 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: ones that I can remember. It just feels like there's 637 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: twenty different things that you can point to and be like, ah, 638 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: if that had happened, they would won the game, yep, 639 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: And they just didn't happen. And typically there are things 640 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: that happened, even like the field goal, Like I I 641 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: sixty one yard field goals outdoors on a rainy day 642 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: on a soft field, Like that's a tough assignment. But 643 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: I still feel good about Justin Tucker hitting that, Like 644 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: I still felt like when he went out when he 645 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: went out there, when he went out there to make 646 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: that kick. In that moment, I'm like, Justin Tucker's gonna 647 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: hit this kick. 648 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: That's just what he does. 649 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: And so and there's twenty different instances like that or 650 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: with the course of the game that you can point 651 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: to and say, you know, that was the one that 652 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: got away, and and that's why the Ravens are you know, 653 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: they have to deal with this one. It's a disappointing 654 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: end to the game. And now they're two and one, 655 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: and that, you know, the cushion that you felt like 656 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: you built up early on by beating the Bengals on 657 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: the room. You know, the Browns are now sitting at 658 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: two and one. 659 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: And Steelers could move to and one on Sunday Night football. 660 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: Here as of taping this, we don't know, but they 661 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: have the Raiders on Sunday Football. Let's be honest. There's 662 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: there are you know, I do have to come clean. 663 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: There's two other reasons. There's two other reasons. Number one, 664 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: I did not eat my pregame hot dog. 665 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: Oh okay, now you eat that every game though, right. 666 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: That's correct, But it's a ritual that I broke. 667 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: You eat, But you've done it plenty of times. 668 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: I've done it. I've done it other times when we've lost. 669 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: That's correct, But I'm just saying it's a ritual. 670 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: You just wanted that you're just right now and you're 671 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: like hot that well, that. 672 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Might be the case. Really, I ate a cinnamon buns 673 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: and I felt like trash early on, and then I 674 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: couldn't eat the hot folks. They felt so garbage, So that 675 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: was that's on me. You know, everybody has to step 676 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: up after this loss and take ownership of what they did. 677 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: That's where you. 678 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: I'll take that one. Also, I think this one goes 679 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: on us collectively, is that we let Cliff do the 680 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: big Cliffs done. Oh, Cliffs done. 681 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: He got it once. 682 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, if he has to come in in an 683 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: emergency situation, that's one thing. Yeah, But when you let 684 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: them do it when I'm actually not available, when the 685 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: starters available. 686 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: Went back to the well one. So many times you. 687 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Let the backup play when the starter was healthy. 688 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: Basically like he you know, the found off pitches and 689 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: you just keep going. You just went back to the fastball, 690 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, you think you're gonna blow it by and 691 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: one too many times and it didn't work. 692 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it didn't. The cliff's done, so that's on 693 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: us and we'll learn that. We'll get better next time. 694 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: So all right, thank you so much for listening. We'll 695 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: be back with you this week as we kind of 696 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: digest this one a little bit more and have some 697 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: more updates over the course of this week. It's always 698 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: you can email us at the lounge at Ravens NFL 699 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: don Net. If you want to hear more from Coach 700 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: Charble and the players, check out the Ravens Press Pass podcast. 701 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: We have the full press conferences posted there for you 702 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: in their entirety. Thanks for listening, Talk with you again 703 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: this week.