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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Indiana Convention Center, site of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four NFL Combine, as we continue our wall

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Speaker 2: to wall coverage here on Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steeler

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Jerry do Luck of

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Post Caasette and the Steeler Radio Network, joined

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Speaker 2: by Dale Lawley of Steeler Nation Radio and the radio network,

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Speaker 2: and of course former Steeler Tackle and the sideline reporter

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Speaker 2: for the Steeler Radio Network, Max Dark's Max. Good afternoon, Dale,

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Speaker 2: and good to see you. Good again. Hey, goot day, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: I see Dale a little more than I get to

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Speaker 2: see you sadly to say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's usually only by voice. And then also

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Speaker 3: you know the random postcard from a golf course.

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Speaker 2: That's not it. Those shorts you're wearing, they work today,

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Speaker 2: but supposed to get jilly here overnight. Forty degree difference,

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Speaker 2: a little nippy in the air. Yeah, Thank goodness for skywalkways.

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Speaker 2: You got that right, you got beautiful things. You guys

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Speaker 2: get to walk inside. I unfortunately have to walk all

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Speaker 2: which is pretty simple in itself. How many years now

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Speaker 2: have you been coming here? This will be my fourth year,

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Speaker 2: that's what I thought. Yeah, as my fourth year, coming

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Speaker 2: back three consecutive. And then the previous time I was

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Speaker 2: in eighteen, I was actually an O line captain for

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Speaker 2: the combine class. Yeah, you also came for the combine

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 3: I was a combine participant way back in yesteryear of

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Speaker 3: two thousand and four.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I'm like Motes was just on. I was able

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Speaker 4: to use his combine photo on his credentials. We didn't

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Speaker 4: have your combine photo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, nobody, nobody should have that.

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Speaker 3: I think it was on a polaroid that was that

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Speaker 3: was also staple to a sheet of paper.

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Speaker 2: How did you find Motes's a combine photo? I was

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Speaker 4: I needed a photo of because I was doing our

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Speaker 4: credentialing for the show, and like, I don't have a

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Speaker 4: headshot of Motes, So I just googled Arthur Motes and

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Speaker 2: It's like when he walks in, they goop, who are you?

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Speaker 2: Who was this? You sure you're not impersonating somebody? It

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Speaker 2: looks remarkably the same. Yeah, that's a little thicker. That's

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Speaker 2: about it. That's about it. That's about it. How many

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Speaker 2: combines for you? Do? You can it? Man? I don't

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Speaker 4: I would say from probably around twenty ten, sometime in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I started coming somewhere around Mike Tomlin's tenure.

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Speaker 2: I might have missed a year in there, I think,

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Speaker 2: is the way, Because you know, I've told this story before.

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Speaker 2: When I first started coming, there were two broadcast tables

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Speaker 2: outside the hallway and Lucas Oil where everything was being held.

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Speaker 2: And then when we started doing it on what was

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Speaker 2: then you know, ESPN Radio, we were like the sixth

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl radio And we were actually in right

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Speaker 2: in Lucas for a few years we did this, and

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Speaker 2: so you know, that was many years ago. So I

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Speaker 2: think if Mike Tomlan, if this is year seventeen, I

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Speaker 4: I just remember when we sat on radio row where

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Speaker 4: the players, unlike now where you know, well, no you

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Speaker 4: Back then, every player came, they would walk them right

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Speaker 2: And every coach and GM had to walk by the

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Speaker 2: a whole lot easier. But it's just an incredible set

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Speaker 2: be broadcasting every day through Friday, wall to wall right

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Speaker 2: anything that you kind of want to keep your eye

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Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the biggest things is, you know,

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Speaker 2: So it changes every single year.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really looking forward to seeing how this quarterback

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Speaker 3: class equits itself because I think, you know, there's a

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Speaker 3: full breath of the Tier two guys. Who's the guy

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Speaker 3: that's gonna jump out? That's gonna be a hidden gym.

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Speaker 3: I also want to see the wide receivers. I think

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Speaker 3: there's some really good wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: That we're looking to add.

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Speaker 3: Depth at that position is gonna be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: Three there's gonna be some great values. Yea offensive line.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a great offensive line class. It's a

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Speaker 2: deep tackle class. Funny you you would have your eye

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, listen, you gotta give the beefy

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Speaker 4: But honestly, I literally and figured out, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: at this draft, that's going to be I think what

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Speaker 4: people value this draft on. I think everybody looks the quarterbacks. Now,

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Speaker 4: what kind of quarterback draft is it? There's gonna be

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Speaker 4: like twelve offensive linemen in the first round this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be. There's gonna be a very heavy amount.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and tackles are going to run early. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in this I think they dominate the top ten more

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Speaker 3: also another one, another one really in this year's draft.

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Speaker 2: So I think you see all of.

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Speaker 3: That kind of pulled in there, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: when the defensive lineman value comes in day two, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and inside linebacker value comes in day two early day three.

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Speaker 2: Well you're you're speaking relative to the Steelers, correct, Yes, right, yeah, Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Just so we're clear, not for everybody else. This is

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Speaker 4: But to your point, I don't I don't know that

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Speaker 4: there will be an inside linebacker taken in the first round, right,

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Speaker 4: an off ball linebacker maybe one or two defensive tackles

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Speaker 4: even the guys who are considered those kind of talents,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to fit everybody's scheme because they're both

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Speaker 4: like six to one, yeah, and that's not gonna fit everybody.

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Speaker 3: And also, you know, with today's type of offenses that

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Speaker 3: how valuable is that squatty body, you know, And so

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Speaker 3: you said, So there's gonna be some tremendous value I

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Speaker 3: love the two fourth round picks. I think that's a

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Speaker 3: we'll see whatever happens with compensatories after that. But I

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Speaker 3: really liked this draft for the Steelers because there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of opportunities for us to hit some major, some

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Speaker 3: major pressure points for a team, especially losing Mason Cole.

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Speaker 2: You know, speaking of center and speaking of the bench press,

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Speaker 2: who was a guy who injured his shoulder, and the

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Speaker 2: bench press was the first was gonna be a first

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Speaker 2: Billy Turner. Ye right, yeah, Billy Turner. I was viewing

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Speaker 2: it when it happened. Yeah, you watched him blop it.

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Speaker 2: And here's the and my thing was, that was the

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Speaker 2: year I was the O line captain. Oh is that right?

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Speaker 3: And Billy was one of our combines ks And I'm

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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there. I'm like, hey, Billy, you know,

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Speaker 3: Talk to him one on one, as though I talked

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Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I'm like, Billy.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, hey man, make sure you hit that two

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Speaker 3: twenty five, you know, do the ramp up. Do one

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I feel I'm feeling good. I did some

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Speaker 3: I'm like, just do the one thirty five twenty five,

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Speaker 3: standing there, We're watching and I'm like, this, this doesn't

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Speaker 2: He didn't warm up. He's gonna go out there cold. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And darned if writing that fourth or fifth wrap pop

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Speaker 3: it's rough, but yeah. But I mean, guys, I mean

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Speaker 3: this whole thing is a pressure cooker, right, this is

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Speaker 3: the ultimate stress test to see how you deal with

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Speaker 3: lack of sleep, how you deal with a tight schedule,

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Speaker 3: But I'm like, do you know that could have acquitted

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Speaker 3: face of it and just deal with it, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: just like when we don't have gms and coaches that

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, this is part of your job. Like

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Speaker 2: it sucks. It trust me, it sucks. Do we want

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Speaker 2: to have to But that's a part of the job.

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Speaker 2: You sign up for the job, you do it.

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Speaker 3: So this is a great time to really see how

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Speaker 3: to be fun. It's not supposed to be a memorable experience.

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Speaker 3: It's supposed to incite PTSD, but create the regiment and

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Speaker 2: Well, Max, you now have.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have it drive. I need to be able

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna be put in uncomfortable situations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we can name countless teams where it's like

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Speaker 2: So it is really interesting.

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Speaker 3: But you know, God bless them because it allows other

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Speaker 3: Yeah, das pro days are very important, but it's also

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're interested in this guy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you want to talk to us when it comes

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Speaker 2: And you know it's a lot of bait and switch

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Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you from my personal experience, I thought

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for you to get to dinner with Andy Reid?

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Speaker 2: Did you Yeah? Andy was at dinner. I hear Andy Trent.

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Speaker 2: Did you try and steal your nuggies?

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Speaker 3: Did not try and steal my nuggies? Now, they had

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Speaker 2: Onto. But but so I thought it was a Philadelphia Eagle.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't told me I was gonna be a Philadelphia Eagle.

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Speaker 3: And then come Draft Day, boom, they move up five

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Speaker 2: I was ready. I'm sitting there in front of the TV.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, and then Sean Andrews and then I'm like,

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Speaker 3: all right, cool beans. But luckily the first three rounds

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Speaker 2: So you thought you might go in the first round

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Speaker 2: to them because that was what you were Top four tackle? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I was still lasted three, right, third round, right

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Speaker 4: I mean, the fourth tackle in this draft will be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if not higher. So once they had their tackle,

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Speaker 3: And then after that, I'm like because I because here's

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Speaker 3: Coach Coward came to my pro date for my way

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Speaker 2: I even know the zip code for the Steelers because

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Speaker 3: And luckily my best friend was born in Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 2: Point in the evening. And and I'm for you, weren't

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Speaker 3: Looking at my Sprint and ten phone. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: He's pick that up? This this is Pittsburgh, Arico. Pick

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Speaker 3: That's how I picked it up. And Olmar's like, please hold,

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Speaker 3: Coach Kyra's making a decision. I'm like, what you called me?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: And and then and then from there he's like, all right,

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Speaker 3: Coach Kyro wants to talk to you. Coach Kyro asked

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Speaker 2: I'll play.

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Speaker 3: He's like all right, and he's like are you tough?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to Pittsburgh Steel. That was it. What if you

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Speaker 3: They already drafted me because my buddy's looking, Oh, they

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Speaker 2: See it because I was at the front door.

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Speaker 3: I was getting ready to walk out and go Taiwan

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I had you guys waiting all day watching TV.

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Speaker 3: He ran back in, turned the TV on, and he's

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Speaker 2: So it was it was a pretty It was a

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Speaker 3: My boy, Josh Katzer love to death, one of my

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Speaker 2: So if this was today's era, there was a good

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Speaker 2: They would have had cameras in your house probably, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: They would have had all thirty two hats waiting to

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Speaker 3: that's that's what they do now, you know. They send

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Speaker 3: pop this on here. Here, let's show the family. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you what that have to be. That

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Speaker 2: You know, when that cameras, that's bad enough. You gotta

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember in twenty eighteen because I did the

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Speaker 3: First round and he's sitting there and they're going and

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Speaker 2: I felt the anxiety of you're the only one and

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Speaker 3: Guys that are like loud and drinking in the back,

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Speaker 2: We're celebrating and this is like the worst moment in

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Speaker 3: And the cameras are on him the entire time because

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Speaker 2: I forgot his brother. It was Shack and what was

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Speaker 3: But anyways, so his younger brother was coming back because

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Speaker 3: So he was coming in because they're like, oh, we're

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Speaker 3: I felt for him and in that moment, you can't

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Speaker 2: It's a day one of our Walterwall coverage from the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Jerry Doulac along with Max Starks

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, formerly with the Tennessee Titans in that capacity

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Speaker 2: the past three years. Who's the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: television personality in Pittsburgh. He's now in Tennessee. He's going

438
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Speaker 2: to tell us a little bit about Arthur Smith and

439
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Speaker 2: his dealings with him when we come back. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to our Waterwall coverage on Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steeler

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty twenty four NFL

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Speaker 1: Combine live from Indianapolis on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Indiana Convention Center, site of the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine twenty twenty four. Jerry Dolac along with Dale

446
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Speaker 2: Lawley and Max Starks. We're joined now by John Burton.

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Speaker 2: You remember him from when he was a sportscaster for

448
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Speaker 2: Channel four in Pittsburgh. He's been in Nashville. Now for

449
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Speaker 2: a dozen years, I would have guessed six days.

450
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Speaker 5: But when I come to events like this and I

451
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Speaker 5: see you guys, I see three familiar faces that I

452
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Speaker 5: saw every day, you know what I mean for over

453
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Speaker 5: a decade, it feels like I haven't left yet. So

454
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Speaker 5: always great to be back on the Pittsburgh airwaves. Steelers

455
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Speaker 5: Nation Radio brings back a lot of great memories. Covered

456
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Speaker 5: Steeler games with you guys, and covering this big man

457
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Speaker 5: right here.

458
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Speaker 2: Well man, that's still large and in charge.

459
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Speaker 5: But I remember this guy protecting big Ben Roethlisberger, those

460
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Speaker 5: great playoff runs and so you know, and and Willie

461
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Speaker 5: Parker and my man Joey Porter.

462
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: That was great hosting his uh, his weekly TV show

464
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Speaker 5: in five, the year that they won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He did it? Who did Joey did? Joey did? Yeah?

466
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Speaker 2: I didn't remember. So here's so the story, quick story

467
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Speaker 2: behind it. I never had to worry about saying too much. Yeah.

468
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Speaker 5: So he's you know, he he wanted to follow in

469
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Speaker 5: you know, Jerome and hindes his footsteps, right, He wanted

470
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Speaker 5: to have his own show. So there's this local like

471
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Speaker 5: cable Access company said yeah, we'll do it, so you know, Joey,

472
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Speaker 5: he tried, he tried to host it by himself, and

473
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Speaker 5: he realized, you know what, I need a guy, So

474
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Speaker 5: I gotta think I gotta thank the other JB. Jerome Bettis.

475
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Speaker 5: He went to him and said, you should have Burton

476
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Speaker 5: be your guy, because you know, he always had his

477
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Speaker 5: guy on his show, and I think hides it.

478
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Speaker 2: Heinz did too.

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Speaker 5: So I got there probably, I don't know, three weeks

480
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Speaker 5: into the season, and we had a ball because they

481
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Speaker 5: kept winning and then they went to the super Bowl

482
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Speaker 5: and it was just you know, and he you know,

483
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Speaker 5: you guys know how great he was during that super

484
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Speaker 5: Bowl run, Like he was unblockable, you know. And so yeah, yeah,

485
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 5: the game here and you know the shoe string tackle

486
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Speaker 5: game with Ben and all that.

487
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Speaker 2: So that was a game we thought he ended it

488
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Speaker 2: with the almost didn't And then you hear him in

489
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Speaker 2: the locker room. They shot me in Denver. There was

490
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Speaker 2: something waiting for coach to come out. Did you hear

491
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Speaker 2: that year? The who we were in Denver. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what.

493
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Speaker 5: Just all I'll say is you want you want to

494
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Speaker 5: have a good time, man, you hang.

495
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Speaker 2: Out with JP after hours. That's all I have, I've

496
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: been can't tell stories back. Definitely, so great to see

497
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Speaker 2: you guys. Absolutely is good to see you as always

498
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: get to see you every year. And let's go to

499
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Speaker 2: the Titans. Were you surprised they moved on from Mike Rabel,

500
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Speaker 2: former stealer player. I actually wasn't.

501
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Speaker 5: I just got the feeling that with the current front

502
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Speaker 5: office structure of the way it was with Rand carth On,

503
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Speaker 5: that he didn't really want to be a part of that.

504
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 5: I didn't think you wanted to be a part of that.

505
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Speaker 5: I didn't you know, this team is heading into a rebuild.

506
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Speaker 5: Let's be honest, right, they got a young quarterback that

507
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Speaker 5: they have to develop, They've got, you know, a roster

508
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Speaker 5: that they need to turn over. I just didn't get

509
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Speaker 5: the feeling for Abele wanted to be there, and if

510
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Speaker 5: he did, he wanted to complete control and Amy Adams Trunk,

511
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 5: the Titans owner, wants more collaboration.

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Speaker 2: So I was.

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Speaker 5: I predicted it on my on my little radio show.

514
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 5: I predicted it halfway through the season that Rabel wouldn't

515
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Speaker 5: be back.

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Speaker 4: I think you saw a couple of years ago and

517
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Speaker 4: they when they traded Aj Brown on Draft Day, and

518
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Speaker 4: you could kind of see his disgust. Yeah, with the

519
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Speaker 4: video cameras and he walked out of there.

520
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Speaker 5: That was That was That was probably the start of it,

521
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 5: you know, and it just it just things weren't the

522
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Speaker 5: same since that night. And you know, they that year

523
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Speaker 5: they started off seven and three and they lost their

524
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Speaker 5: last you know, they lost their last seven games, missed

525
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Speaker 5: the playoffs. They were six and eleven last year, and

526
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Speaker 5: you know, I just got the feeling that the organization

527
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Speaker 5: where they wanted to go and what Vrabel wanted to

528
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Speaker 5: do if he wanted to stay, were two different things.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't come to common ground. So I am not surprised.

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of people around the league are.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. Yeah, I was, I was. I was a

532
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Speaker 2: little surprised. I'm more surprised that nobody picked him up.

533
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Speaker 2: I thought he would instantly get a job. I like

534
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Speaker 2: Mike personally, and he's done a wonderful job as a

535
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Speaker 2: head coach. And I'm man, I thought that was a

536
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Speaker 2: slam dunk nothing. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you've got Bill Belichick, who oh,

538
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: by the way, he has won six Super Bowls, and

539
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Speaker 5: Mike Rabel, who was Coach of the Year in the

540
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Speaker 5: in this league two years ago, you know, the music

541
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 5: stopped and neither one of them could find the chair.

542
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Speaker 5: That that was very surprising to me as well. But uh,

543
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Speaker 5: you know it probably in Rabel's case, it might be

544
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Speaker 5: it might be good for him to take a year

545
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Speaker 5: off and just you know, kind of re evaluate things

546
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Speaker 5: and and and maybe you know, take a run at

547
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Speaker 5: it next year.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be coveted next year. I would. I

549
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: would imagine he had time left on his deal. Yeah, right, yeah,

550
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Speaker 2: so he's he's he's hanging out. They're not gonna have

551
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Speaker 2: any red Tag days for me, No, no, we're not. We're

552
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Speaker 2: not gonna have to have a dinner for Mike Raber. Okay, exactly,

553
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Speaker 2: That's what Don Rickles said.

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Speaker 5: You know, he never got a dinner or one of

555
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 5: those comedians, you know, not gonna have to have a

556
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Speaker 5: dinner for Mike Rabel. So but I was surprised that

557
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Speaker 5: he didn't get a job straight away.

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Speaker 2: Did he even interview anywhere?

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Speaker 5: I think he interviewed with the Chargers and maybe with

560
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Speaker 5: the Falcons, But you know, I'm that's about it.

561
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Speaker 2: He wasn't really sought after a coveted most ridiculous thing

562
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Speaker 2: I heard during the off season is apparently some front

563
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Speaker 2: office person, whether it was a GM or whoever, said,

564
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Speaker 2: I think it was Diana Rossini said to him that

565
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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel intimidated the interviewers because he's too big. I thought, really,

566
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Speaker 2: are your Kidding's too big? Too big? Give me, give

567
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: me a break. It's football, most of these guys and

568
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: Andy Reid's not real slim The last time I saw

569
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Speaker 2: him different. Bill Campbell is Dan Campbell six face, bigger

570
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Speaker 2: than Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 5: Big, strong, mean men play football. So that's that's kind

572
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Speaker 5: of what you want as a head coach. Yeah, you

573
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: hear all kinds of things, man, And but I think

574
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 5: this whole situation with you know, like I said, how

575
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: he wasn't really down with how the front office was

576
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 5: being structured, Like he liked Rand Carthon, but didn't feel

577
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 5: like he was ready to be an NFL GM. And

578
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Speaker 5: I guess he just felt like, you know what, I

579
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Speaker 5: don't know if I can rock with this guy unless

580
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Speaker 5: I have control of the roster. And it just, you know,

581
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 5: like I said, And I give Amy Aham Drunk a

582
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 5: lot of credit because you know, she took a lot

583
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: of heat for that. The organization took a lot of

584
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: heat for that. That was a gutsy, gutsy move to say,

585
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 5: you know what, Yeah, we have this really good coach, but.

586
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Speaker 2: You know we're gonna move on.

587
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: So Brian Callahan's in place now, the former Steelers OC

588
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 5: who you guys are very well familiar with, and you know,

589
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: it's kind of a it's kind of a turn the

590
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 5: page situation. You got Will Levis that you're gonna try

591
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 5: to develop.

592
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Speaker 2: What'd you think of Will? I liked him, Yeah, what

593
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: the game I saw in Pittsburgh, and I was not

594
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: I thought he was Taysom Hill when you draft him.

595
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: What I saw in Pittsburgh completely changed my mind. Plus

596
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Speaker 2: I'm a Penn Stater and so what I knew what

597
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: he was at Penn State.

598
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I you know, I'll be honest with you guys.

599
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 5: I didn't think I was gonna like Will Levis, and

600
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Speaker 5: maybe part of me didn't want to like him. I

601
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 5: thought he I thought he was gonna come in here

602
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: like a Baker Mayfield, you know, chip on my shoulder.

603
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Speaker 2: Banana peel, yeah, yeah.

604
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, the coffee.

605
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was gonna come You know, I should.

606
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 5: Have been a first round pick and I'm mad at

607
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: the world and I'm just gonna be this. He's he

608
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: was great, handle himself great, and I thought he played

609
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: pretty well.

610
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: Obviously his first game he threw four touchdown passes at

612
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 5: home I think against Falcons and Arthur and you know

613
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 5: that was an eye opener. In that Monday night game

614
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 5: late in the year. You know, they had no business

615
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: beating the Miami Dolphins. You know, the Dolphins had plenty

616
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: to play for. He leads him on two fourth quarter drives,

617
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: two touchdowns to win the game. You know, he's he's

618
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: got the physical tools and we'll see.

619
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: What Callahan can do developing him.

620
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Speaker 5: But I liked him. I liked what I saw. I

621
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: think he's got a chance to be the the guy

622
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 5: in Tennessee.

623
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Speaker 2: So you've been around Arthur Smith. Of course, the Steelers

624
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: hired him as their offensive coordinator to replace Matt Canada.

625
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: Went to two years he was with the Titans. Record numbers,

626
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: big year for Derek Henry and a big year for

627
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill, which people forget about. Ryan Tannehill's best year

628
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: was his second year with Arthur Smith. I think it

629
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: was thirty five touchdowns, thirty eight hundred yards, seven picks,

630
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: ran for seven touchdowns. Yeah, so I would have made

631
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl that year. He flourished as well. Tell

632
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: us a little bit about Arthur.

633
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, you know, listen, I know, I

634
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 5: know a lot of a lot of the fans in

635
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh are saying, well, you know, he's only good because

636
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: he had Derek Henry. I mean, listen, you guys know

637
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: it's it's it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's more than

638
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: the Xes and the O's. But he got the most

639
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: out of the talent that he had, right, Yeah, you

640
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: know Derrick Henry with the two thousand yards and Tannehill

641
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: is you know, he's a serviceable quarterback.

642
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: Is he an elite quarterback?

643
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: No?

644
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: But at times he played like a top high level

645
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: quarterback under Arthur Smith's system. You mentioned it, thirty eight

646
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: hundred yards I think like, yeah, like thirty two touchdowns

647
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: only seven interceptions, Like you know, he ran, he ran

648
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: for seven touchdowns, and yeah, Derek was great, but and

649
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: Derek is probably the best running back of his generation.

650
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: But you know there was balance there because you also

651
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 5: had Aj Brown, who was a thousand yard receiver. They

652
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: were averaging thirty points a game. I mean they were

653
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: you know, their defense was terrible that year. Had their

654
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: defense been just a little bit better, they might have

655
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Speaker 5: made a run all the way, you know, because that

656
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: offense was was was tough to stop until they got

657
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Speaker 5: to the playoffs, right exactly. They were the one seed,

658
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 5: and you know they had home field advantage. And you know,

659
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Speaker 5: I mean before Derek got hurt, he probably would have

660
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 5: been the first guy ever to have back to back

661
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Speaker 5: two thousand yard seasons.

662
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Speaker 2: He was trending that way.

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Speaker 5: So the only flag that comes up, I guess is

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Speaker 5: the fact that he couldn't do a whole lot with

665
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: with the Desmond Ritter in Atlanta, right, you know, he

666
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 5: didn't seem to really develop and flourish under him, So

667
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 5: you wonder how he's going to handle a young quarterback.

668
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: But you know, if you see what he's done with

669
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 5: that Titans offense when he was there and he was

670
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: the OC, he he had that thing humming. And I

671
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: know that you know that Canada is a is A

672
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: is a is a or two dirty words in Pittsburgh.

673
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 5: So I think you're going to see improvement overall from

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Speaker 5: a balanced perspective, offensively with Arthur in place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's obviously a an adjustment. They want

676
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: to they want to run the football. I mean there's

677
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: no offens or. But you don't bring in Arthur Smith

678
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 4: unless you're going to, you know, make a commitment to

679
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: running the football right.

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Speaker 5: Right, no doubt about it. And listen, you know, is

681
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Speaker 5: Najie Harris, Dereck Henry no.

682
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Speaker 2: Is just though Yeah, yeah, that type of back he's

683
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say he is him exactly.

684
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: He is that type of back, A physical guy, a

685
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: take the fight to you type of guy, a guy

686
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: that you know, if you need to, he'll get your

687
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: three type of guy. And obviously Derek, you know, could

688
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: also take it to the house.

689
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: The guy had a.

690
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: Ninety nine yard touchdown run in the ninety four yard

691
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: throw it to he can throw it. He's throwing a

692
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 5: bunch of touchdown passes. So if you have Warren and

693
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: Harris combined to power that running game, that's gonna hopefully

694
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: set up, you know, the play action because that's what

695
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: Arthur does, right, runs the football sets you up for

696
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 5: play action. They're able to hit aj Brown with a

697
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: lot of you know, over routes, crossing routes, those deep,

698
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 5: those deep routes down the middle of the field. He's

699
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 5: gonna make you respect that running game. And you know

700
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: the idea is to get big plays off of that

701
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: in the passing game by a play action. So that's

702
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure that'll be what they'll try to do in Pittsburgh.

703
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Speaker 3: So one of the things that you know, I kind

704
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: of was possibly about was, you know, when you look

705
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: at Arthur from Tennessee to the as a OC to

706
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: the head coach of Atlanta, do you think taking some

707
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: off of his plate as an as a head coach,

708
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: now he can vocalize himself and actually be closer to

709
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: what that is because you're pulled in so many directions,

710
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: will you try and be the.

711
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Play caller slash head coach? Like very few guys can

712
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: do that? Right?

713
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: Even Sean McVay had his struggle right in LA with that.

714
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: Do you think that's probably a positive saying, Hey, you've

715
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: had the whole plate thrown at you.

716
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 2: Now let's pull it back.

717
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: Pick your top hits, right, you know, don't play the

718
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: whole album, just give me a three, right, And that's

719
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: what I feel like the responsibility is.

720
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Speaker 2: Do you think that's something that could possibly help him. Max.

721
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Speaker 5: I think he nailed it, because you know, you played

722
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 5: in this league. You know, some guys are better coordinators

723
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: than they are head coaches. I'll give you a perfect example.

724
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 5: Growing up as a you know, New York Giants fan,

725
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: it's still following the team. Look at Steve Spagnolo. Yeah,

726
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: was not much as a head coach, but he's gonna

727
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 5: go down as one of the greatest defensive coordinators of

728
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 5: all times. Guys won four rings, you know, one would

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: the Giants, three with the with the with the Chiefs.

730
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 5: Some guys are just better in that coordinator role. And

731
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Speaker 5: I think Arthur is that guy. He's kind of a

732
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: low key guy. He's a very focused guy. You know,

733
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: he wants to just He's the type of guy that

734
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: just wants to watch film and and and and draw

735
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 5: plays up all day. You know, he doesn't necessarily want

736
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 5: to do a you know, five press conferences a week

737
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: or or anything like that.

738
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Speaker 2: Man. He and he's a self made guy. You know,

739
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: this is a guy that you know, he was a

740
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: quality control guy.

741
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: And with the Titans, he was a tight ends coach

742
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: for many years and survived like three different coaching regimes.

743
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: Actually actually four, and I agree with you, and that's

744
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: what's impressive about him. All four of those guys kept

745
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: him and moves him up, which tells you something exactly.

746
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 2: Starting with the with then it was whiz, then it

747
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: was malarchy, and then it was a former Steelers. That's right.

748
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: Hey, for a while, man, Nashville was Pittsburgh south Man,

749
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 5: we had Dick Lebau, we had everybody.

750
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: We had the Washington That's why they brought you down.

751
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: And then they got and then I came down.

752
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: So so yeah, to answer your question, big Man, I

753
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 5: think I think definitely the fact that here's your focus.

754
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: Just work on our offense.

755
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: Fix our offense, work with our uh skilled players, you know,

756
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: get this offense up and running. I think that's gonna

757
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: benefit Arthur. I think it's going to benefit the Steelers too.

758
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Max. I agree with you. I think that's the big thing.

759
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: You know, when you become a head coach, let's face,

760
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: you've got so many other elements on your plate. You

761
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: can't just focus on being the coordinator, the.

762
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Speaker 4: Thing that got you the job to begin moving what

763
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: what did Bill Parcells say?

764
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Speaker 5: Right when you're a head coach, there are five things

765
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: that come across your desk every day that you're not

766
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 5: prepared for and you got to drop everything you're doing

767
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: to deal with that. You're a coordinator, not so much

768
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: so I think that's gonna benefit Arthur, I really do.

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Speaker 2: JB always good saying you, my friend. You guys are

770
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: the best. Everybody in Pittsburgh, Missage, especially these guys right here.

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00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: Well, I had I had some of my best years

772
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: professionally and personally in the city. A great city, steel

773
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: city of Pittsburgh, and the people are still nice to

774
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: me to this day, and I I appreciate it and

775
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: it's great to talk to you guys.

776
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: As always. All the actors talk about appearing on Broadway.

777
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: You appear on Broadway in Nashville, don't you probably night?

778
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 5: Well, well, I'm down to five nights a week now,

779
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 5: so I'll get older.

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00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: Aren't we. All? Thanks man, good nay, love you guys. Man,

781
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: good to see you so much. Thank you. All right.

782
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: That's John Burton, formerly of Channel four and Pittsburgh is

783
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: now in Nashville and uh helps cover the Titans there

784
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: in the city. We're going to go to another former

785
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh who's in Tennessee and everybody knows Raymon Foster. He

786
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: is going to join us next here on Fox Sports

787
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Steeler Nation Radio. We are at the NFL

788
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Combine in Indianapolis, and we'll take a break and come

789
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: back with more right after this, Mike.

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Speaker 1: From about twenty twenty four NFL Combine, Steelers Nation Rate, Welcome.

791
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: Back to the Indiana Conventional Sena Terry UC along with

792
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: Max Starts and Dal Lowly. We are broadcasting and killed

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00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: two pm and then we turn it back over to

794
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: who Matt Williamson and Max.

795
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Days on for an hour with Matt and I, and

796
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 4: then Matt and I finish it off the final hour.

797
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: Even I can't keep track of the lineup, but wall

798
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: to wall today through Friday will be broadcasting here from

799
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Joining us now someone who

800
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: needs no introduction to Pittsburgh, former Steeler guard Raymon Foster,

801
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: another guy who spends his time now in Nashville. One

802
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: oh four zero point five the zone. Yes, and you've

803
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: joined the other side of the fence here. Now you've

804
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: gone from player to our side, which I'm not surprised

805
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: based on the way you handled yourself as a player.

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00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 7: Well, all all my My younger teammates a little younger

807
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 7: than Max used to be like, Mom's gonna be in

808
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 7: the media, and I'm like, shut.

809
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: Up, and here I am right.

810
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 7: You know how players already like can I talk to you?

811
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 7: Or am I talking to the God is working right now?

812
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 7: I was like, Wow, We're supposed to be so much

813
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 7: better than this.

814
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: What have you learned? Anything has been eye opening to you?

815
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 6: It has been good and some bad.

816
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 7: I'll be honest with you, I've learned it as a competition.

817
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 7: The same way you get ticked off of your teammates,

818
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 7: you get ticked off of people in the media too.

819
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 7: Uh you guys, you guys are You've been in it

820
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 7: for a while. So the new era of sports media

821
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 7: is a little bit different. I think I appreciate the

822
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 7: old style where you can't talk about something unless you

823
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 7: got some tangible evidence about it.

824
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: Oh that doesn't stop on today.

825
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 6: I know, I know, and I've seen a lot of

826
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 6: stuff come through rumors.

827
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 7: I'd be like, that is wrong, that's wrong, But you

828
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 7: throw it in on the universe on Twitter or social media,

829
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 7: and that's real. So that's the only part of the

830
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 7: player side where truth can be different from reality sometimes

831
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 7: I mean from a false narrative.

832
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: In today's society too, and I've actually read studies about this.

833
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 2: People don't want to know anything more than the first

834
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: thing they hear, so somebody throws out a rumor that

835
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: that's good for me. They don't want to pursue the truth.

836
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: And I can't remember the numbers before I just throw out,

837
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: for example, it's like sixty eight to seventy percent of

838
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: the people believe the first thing they hear, and there's

839
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: a small percentage that want to find out a little

840
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: bit more. And that's just human nature.

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00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: It's essentially what Coach Tomlin meetings was with us when

842
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 7: he get us up on Wednesdays and say this guy

843
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 7: is the best guy you're ever going to play in

844
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 7: the world, and I'll be like, well, let me see

845
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 7: it's tape first, Coach Tomlin, don't try to scare me

846
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 7: like this on a Wednesday Scout meeting.

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Speaker 6: Wednesday stuff.

848
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 7: I used to hate those meetings, but it humbled you

849
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 7: made you believe, all right, this guy is good and

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00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 7: respect them.

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00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: But that was the same thing. Let me watch the taper,

852
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 6: let me research it first before I believe.

853
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: So, did you know the guy next to you would

854
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: morph into the media.

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00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 6: I knew this with Max one hundred percent.

856
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Speaker 2: This is one of the guys that helped.

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Speaker 7: Guide me him, Charlie, Ryan Clark, I mean the guys

858
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 7: that came Willie. Everybody's in that Boatray I think is

859
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 7: doing the pod now most is in it.

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Speaker 2: You should should Willy Willy who Cologne? Oh yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah,

861
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Willie Cologne bed Parker there for really, what did I get?

862
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Speaker 6: He's fast?

863
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 7: I don't know if, but yeah, now Max is one

864
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 7: of those guys man put that business sense saying you that, look,

865
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 7: football is gonna end at some point in time. Him,

866
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 7: Charlie and Ryan Clark specifically being the older guys and

867
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 7: trying to just be more than a not be more

868
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 7: than football player because the field has to take care

869
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 7: of itself before you can come over here and talk

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Speaker 7: crap about guys.

871
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, of course we see Charlie all

872
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: the time. And you know, I always liked Ryan and uh,

873
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: you know, he had to. He was glib, he had

874
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: the gift to gab and you know what, and I

875
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: I love what he does on TV. And I still

876
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: talked to him from time to time.

877
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 7: No doubt about it, and I'd be remiss if I

878
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 7: didn't bring up Craig wolf Lye and of course rest

879
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 7: of cell times. Man, those two good. They made it fun.

880
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 7: And we see them at camp. You're like, you sure

881
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 7: you're working, You sure you have.

882
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 6: A job, you know. So, yeah, that's what that was.

883
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Many So what memories just being at the combine and

884
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: bring back for you, Oh my gosh, so what is

885
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: this two years? How many years you've been here in

886
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: this world?

887
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 7: This was my first time here here? What Titans radio

888
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 7: shout out to the crew that there might keeps the

889
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 7: force of the Titans. That nosebleed I caught right before

890
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 7: I caught my ford ran my forty. I'm gonna blame

891
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 7: that for my slow time. That's when they took me from.

892
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: A tackle to a guard at five to five.

893
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 7: Doesn't mean the NFL offensive tackle, but it's it's funny.

894
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 7: Mark the scout Corset Mark was up there and there

895
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 7: we go. So in the wintertime, and it started happening

896
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 7: later in college.

897
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 6: I was in East Sennency.

898
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 7: Of course, altitude and stuff like that over there, and

899
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 7: I got here in the inside of that stadium lose

900
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 7: old stadium air and it cracked the inside. So I

901
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 7: caught a those bleeds one person before I was supposed

902
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 7: to go up, and I'm like, hey, I gotta nose.

903
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: And Mark's like, well you're live, we gotta move, and

904
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: I'm like, if you see me running, I'm running trying

905
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 6: to hold my head back and keep blood up.

906
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 7: But that right there was I didn't have the greatest

907
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 7: combine by stretch, okay, and so many nerves. This isn't

908
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 7: a this isn't a convention or combine to tell you

909
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 7: how great you are. They're trying to compare you to

910
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 7: everybody else and find any kind of way they can

911
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 7: knock you.

912
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: And you gotta be mentally strong.

913
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 7: Enough, prepared enough, and good enough to make it through

914
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 7: this type the rigors that they are. And the other

915
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 7: one was one of those meetings. It's funny I met.

916
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 7: I met with all three of I was just gonna

917
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 7: ask you, Oh my gosh.

918
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Hear me out.

919
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 7: I go on to the meeting and we're sitting like,

920
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 7: this is the table. Here is coach tomlin, Omar's and

921
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 7: their keVs in there. Mister Ruing I think was in there,

922
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 7: A bunch of scouts in there, and one of the

923
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 7: first questions that coach Tomlin them asked me. It might

924
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 7: have been keV or coach Thompson. Why did you guys

925
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 7: get your coach fired at Tennessee? And I'm like, coach

926
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 7: former had just gotten let go, the legendary coach there,

927
00:40:53,680 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 7: and I'm like, well dang. My answer was, man, it

928
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 7: was more of them than it was of us. That

929
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: was that new era of changing over where the early

930
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: high stars played and the ability to kind of grow

931
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 7: guys and recruit well and you play them early was

932
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 7: on that.

933
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: Phase of it.

934
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 7: We went five and seven my senior year and Coach

935
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 7: Foreman was let go soon after that.

936
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 6: You want to again. They're not trying to tell you

937
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 6: how great you are here.

938
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 7: They're trying to break you down to see how they

939
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 7: can find your valuation as a pro here.

940
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 6: But it's fun.

941
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: You want to be here, though, So go ahead, Max,

942
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, so. I mean, you know when

943
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: you go through that process. I kind of broke this

944
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: down before. But you have those formal team interviews in

945
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: the little suite rooms and then you go to the

946
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: train station where it's like speed dating and you're just

947
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: sitting you don't know who's sitting down. They all you

948
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: know is you see whatever colors on their shirt and

949
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: you assume and they're asking you the most off the wall.

950
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: So so is it is it separate teaming or separate team?

951
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: And then and then just a missmash of everybody.

952
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: It's a huge room like this, round tables and they

953
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: assign us a table and you just sit there for

954
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: twenty minutes and whoever comes, oh gotcha, yeah.

955
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 6: And then you can also be grabbed also, so somebody

956
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: want to see you, they come grab you. Gotta go there.

957
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 7: This is one of them situations where I've been saying

958
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: as of late, the NFL is like the CIA Secret Service,

959
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 7: Like they're just trying to accumulate as much possible information.

960
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 6: They can on you to eventually use it against you.

961
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: My advice to kids is be smart about who you're

962
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 7: meeting with, okay, because you might say something to a

963
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 7: team that you're an AFC North guy and they may

964
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 7: know what's his profile.

965
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 6: Say in these moments, you.

966
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 7: Because you devote so much, because you're excited, you're geeked

967
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 7: up to be talking to potentially your dream job. And

968
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 7: I never forget I was breaking down at the time,

969
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 7: and I was new with understanding this stuff safety rotation

970
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 7: and dropping it because I was playing tackle. I know

971
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 7: if the safety was coming down, I had somebody slamming

972
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 7: under in their backside. They're dropping it, all this type

973
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 7: of stuff, and I'm breaking this down. I think Lamas

974
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 7: Brown at the time legendary player and coach and everything,

975
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 7: and I'm breaking this down to him, and I felt

976
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 7: like I'm about to start tripping on words.

977
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: Shut up, please right now. You'll want to say too much.

978
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, more you should have You should actually just let

979
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 4: the blood flow when you're running your forty people would

980
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: have gunn.

981
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: I remember that day you were the guy who was

982
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: bleeding that I could.

983
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 6: Have read a storyline that's That's one.

984
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: Of those situations. Got tough, that dude. I think when

985
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: we barely get in Twitter at that point.

986
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 7: The only thing I don't know if I would have

987
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 7: been able to go viral on Facebook with the with

988
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 7: the grandma.

989
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, So when you when you look at this situation,

990
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 4: do kids call you guys still and people sending people

991
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: your way to to ask you guys, you know, for

992
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: recommendations how to handle this stuff.

993
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 7: I've had a few guys reach out and stuff like that.

994
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 7: And I try not to overstep my bandois with that

995
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 7: type of stuff. I know somebody that knows a player

996
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 7: and want me to have conversation with him. Yeah, I

997
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 7: will have the conversation. When I'm talking to a young

998
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 7: guy right now that's about to go for free agency,

999
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 7: just god. And I'm like, I know you're expecting this

1000
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 7: big dollar amount, but humble yourself just a little bit, okay,

1001
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 7: just they never want to give it all to you.

1002
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: And you may expect you to get twenty a year

1003
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 7: and you might get twelve. I mean, and he's just

1004
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 7: having some real conscious conversation, like you understand that you.

1005
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: Still okay to live?

1006
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 6: Right, This ain't embarrassing. It's just the market, right.

1007
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: And when I think the other thing is because right,

1008
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: because you get those guys that random like hey man,

1009
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: will you go talk to this kid? And you know,

1010
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: for me, like my little cousin is in the combined issue,

1011
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: Oh congrats man. So I'm like I haven't said a

1012
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: word to him. I haven't said anything, and he hasn't asked,

1013
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: and he hasn't asked. So I'm like, you know, that's

1014
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: where it's like family boundaries, right, Like I could call

1015
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: my cousins say, hey, why has it?

1016
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: Why has a little cousin called me?

1017
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: Because I tried to talk to him when he made

1018
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: a transition in college for the NIL.

1019
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Stuff, and apparently my advice was was old man advice.

1020
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, cool, when I see you,

1021
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: see you, it's all good, but it is you never

1022
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: know where to go because, like you said, the landscape's

1023
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: changed so much, especially for kids coming out of college today.

1024
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: My god, yes, nil transfer portal and you know navigating that.

1025
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 3: You know, I feel antiquated when I'm talking to them

1026
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 3: about that, and so you never know what the wrong

1027
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: trigger is going to be for these kids today. So

1028
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, if you come to me, I'm gonna

1029
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: give you the well. But if you don't, I'm not

1030
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: coming an offer and say hey, come drink over here.

1031
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let them have it. Because we had combined

1032
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: kids every year at our gym, and the kids that

1033
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: want I make myself available show up there during workouts

1034
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: from their watching, give my critiques to the trainers.

1035
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: And then if the guy comes and talks to me, cool,

1036
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: we can have a moment.

1037
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: But if you don't ask is don't ask, don't tell

1038
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 3: I'm not offering my advice anymore.

1039
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: And that's kind of how you have to be.

1040
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: Whereas back in the day, I wanted everything, everybody coming,

1041
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: like you said, touching Wolf, I want to pick their

1042
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: brands the sidelines.

1043
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: I want to know everything. What do you think about this?

1044
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: But kids today they come in read he made and

1045
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: they don't really want to hear what you have to

1046
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: say because they're like.

1047
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: Hey, old oh you played here, you played this game?

1048
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: When was your last year?

1049
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1050
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: I was four years old? Wow? And you said, You're like, okay,

1051
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit down over here, I'm gonna go Yeah.

1052
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: The drinks prune juice, yeah, right, right right.

1053
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 6: I'm newly retired, and I of course been in Tennessee.

1054
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 7: I cover college sports, so I try to stay familiar

1055
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: with those dudes and stuff.

1056
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 6: It is a different world. This NIL is different, of course,

1057
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: with them winning that lawsuit against the NCAAA.

1058
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 7: It's open season. I'm sure you guys have had that

1059
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 7: conversation too, that a lot of people speaking about the

1060
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 7: quality the later rounds because some of these dudes are

1061
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 7: getting six hundred grand and go back for another year.

1062
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 6: The different school just more or no, it's close to

1063
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 6: rookie Mint. I think we're.

1064
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: Just about it. If they make it you know what

1065
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if they make it right, you know, and guarantee, it's.

1066
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: A different world. Anybody's listened to us, Now talk to you.

1067
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 7: No get familiar as a parent if you about to

1068
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 7: be a parent that's about to have a kid going

1069
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 7: to college because you deserve something too much money being

1070
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 7: thrown out.

1071
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

1072
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 7: I just laugh and joke at the NCAA just a

1073
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 7: little bit because back then they probably they probably could

1074
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 7: have got us about five hundred dollars a month.

1075
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: Easy, easy, and we wouldn't have been here.

1076
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 6: We wouldn't have been here, We told him though, Max

1077
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 6: told him.

1078
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: I went to the NCAA my senior year, pleaded because

1079
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: I was one of the liaisons, and I said, hey,

1080
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: can we just raise the stipend five hundred dollars because

1081
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 3: it's just to help guys not have to get bottom roommates?

1082
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: Right, I can only I only need four, you know,

1083
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: we don't need to live in a commune or a hospital,

1084
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: you know.

1085
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 6: And I want to have cable exactly.

1086
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 7: That was it.

1087
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Speaker 3: And yeah, now now we're here where kids are driving

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Speaker 3: up and Lamborghini's to sign sign their transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: And you know we I mean, you know, we can

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Speaker 2: have that nil discussion here all day. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you even look at it from the coach a standpoint.

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Speaker 2: If you're a college coach. You know what one of

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Speaker 2: their selling points to all the kids is, we're going

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Speaker 2: to bring your son in. We're going to develop him.

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Speaker 2: He's going to grow. And you, I mean, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't even say that because if they're three, they

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Speaker 2: got three schools in four years or four schools in

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Speaker 2: five years. With some of these kids.

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Speaker 6: The part that gets me is you see players go

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Speaker 6: to the rival team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where transfer.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like you, we play this

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Speaker 6: team every day every year.

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Speaker 7: At this date, you're going to that team and it

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Speaker 7: happens vice versa and all that type of stuff. But

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Speaker 7: it probably this sounds like old man talking when I

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Speaker 7: say this, but this probably is the Jersey swap culture

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Speaker 7: that we've gotten into a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But of course it's different.

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Speaker 7: Guys don't have to work at the entire year anymore,

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Speaker 7: so they can have the all season a party with

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Speaker 7: guys and come out and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: It's a different world. But I've adjusted to it and

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Speaker 6: I somewhat like it still.

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Speaker 2: I do like it a lot. Let me stop lying.

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Speaker 2: I love this. Yeah, you see you see starters enter

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Speaker 2: the portal and you think, why are they doing it?

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Speaker 2: Whether they're entering the portal to see what kind of

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Speaker 2: the better offer? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, every year in college football is now free agency. Yes,

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Speaker 4: at the end of every season, every.

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Speaker 6: Cycle almost now.

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Speaker 7: I mean from the opening of the transfer portal in

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Speaker 7: December to the one in January, and then there'll be

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Speaker 7: another one in April. Then you got to make it

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Speaker 7: through the summer with that same team because a deal

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Speaker 7: can come up and you're just like, it's better over here.

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Speaker 6: It's might not be a better team, but it's a

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Speaker 6: better bag.

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Speaker 2: And it's not only just the starters. The backups are

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Speaker 2: getting these deals too. Get me started, I know, believeable. Start.

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Speaker 2: We gotta take a break. Always good to see it alone.

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Speaker 2: Foster the former Steeler guard. He's now in Nashville. One

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Speaker 2: oh four point five the zoom. Then we're gonna take

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Speaker 2: a break. We are going to come back with our

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Speaker 2: second hour right after this. Jeary you, Max Starks and

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Speaker 2: Dale Lawley. We're the NFL Combine twenty twenty four in Indianapolis.

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