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Speaker 1: But first let's talk about the game. O Jo behind
Speaker 1: four touchdown pass for Matthew Stafford. The Rams get a
Speaker 1: win on Thursday Night football improved to three and four
Speaker 1: and the Minnesota falls to five and two after losing
Speaker 1: consecutive ball games. The Rams got a safety on a
Speaker 1: missed face mask call. Sam Darnald was sacked in the
Speaker 1: m zone. But it was clearly, clearly a face mask
Speaker 1: and I don't know how the official that's standing two
Speaker 1: three feet away from him missed that. So now it
Speaker 1: goes from an eight point to a ten point game,
Speaker 1: and the Rams get the ball back and they were
Speaker 1: able to seal the victory by taking knees because the
Speaker 1: Vikes were out of time out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember we say all players aren't created equal, well should
Speaker 1: I mean, there are plenty of miscalls throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, if you missed that call in
Speaker 1: the fourth in the first quarter, you got three three
Speaker 1: and a half fourth quarters to overcome it.
Speaker 2: When you down eight and you missed that call, Oh.
Speaker 4: Joe, right, Uh, that's a you can't overcome that.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 4: There's a difference in the game.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It was a big difference in the ball game. And look,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford played really well tonight. Uku Nakua. Now you
Speaker 1: see why Cooper Cuppin's on the trade block. You get
Speaker 1: a younger guy that's less expensive and that's that's the
Speaker 1: way sports work. It's just like that in the real world.
Speaker 1: If you get somebody that's younger, Okay, somebody's been there
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years, you get somebody that's younger, that's on
Speaker 1: the cheaper salary, that can do the job just as well,
Speaker 1: if not better. Yeah, when you start to see it,
Speaker 1: there's really no law to it. You talk about law
Speaker 1: to in sports. Ain't a whole lot of loyals in job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it never has been, never has been. That's
Speaker 5: the way this is. This is a dirty business. It
Speaker 5: always has been a dirty business for some for for
Speaker 5: some reason, fans are always fooled into believing that it's
Speaker 5: a fair game for the players. And the first thing
Speaker 5: they bring up is, well, the players make millions of dollars,
Speaker 5: but they always ignore the business.
Speaker 4: Side of things. Again, I'll state it again.
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup didn't have a great game tonight, but Pooka
Speaker 5: Nicole did.
Speaker 4: He picked up where he left off Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, coming into this game, he only
Speaker 5: had three touchdown passes in the past whatever weeks it
Speaker 5: might have been in tonight. With a healthy Cooper Cup
Speaker 5: and a healthy Poopa Nicoa has four tonight, the deep
Speaker 5: the offense look completely different. So with Cooper Cup being
Speaker 5: on the trade block, but then going from from.
Speaker 4: What the two and five and that what two and
Speaker 4: four to three and four?
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, up with that being their record, now,
Speaker 5: I think that's all because now you have to think
Speaker 5: last year they went on an eight game stretch of
Speaker 5: winning seven of the last eight. So who's to say
Speaker 5: that they can't do that now now that everybody is
Speaker 5: back healthy. So I think obviously last year they made
Speaker 5: the playoffs and finishing ten, ten and seven, if I'm
Speaker 5: not mistaken, and made the playoffs, so they might. They
Speaker 5: might and go on to run now and do the
Speaker 5: same thing, especially from an offensive standpoint. As good as
Speaker 5: their plan.
Speaker 1: The question is if somebody willing to give me the
Speaker 1: high draft pick that I seek for Cooper Cup, then
Speaker 1: I do the deal.
Speaker 5: Because Tampa Bay absolutely will. They have nothing they.
Speaker 2: Don't clear ish.
Speaker 5: Chris Godwin is out, Mike Evans is out. It's always
Speaker 5: it's always next man up. But the next man up
Speaker 5: is not going to give you the production that you
Speaker 5: Mike Evans, your Chris Goden will would having a Cooper
Speaker 5: Cup to come in in the offense that I'm sure
Speaker 5: he's familiar with, because much doesn't change from team to
Speaker 5: team outside of the language and plays at are called.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: So and I think this guy think that guy was
Speaker 1: with Sean McVay, so that might be the same offense
Speaker 1: bingo and so that might pretty much use the same language.
Speaker 1: And the thing is O shoe. When they say next
Speaker 1: man up, you might be talking about one man. One man.
Speaker 1: You don't really talk about two. You don't hope you
Speaker 1: got Well, I got another guy that plays behind Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin that can be the next man. I got a
Speaker 1: guy that plays behind Mike Evans that can be the
Speaker 1: next man. Most teams don't have two guys that are
Speaker 1: going to be the next man. You might have one,
Speaker 1: you might find have a diamond in the rough where
Speaker 1: somebody goes out and the guy can come in and
Speaker 1: give you very similar production. But the likelihood you have
Speaker 1: in two three guys like we see some of these teams.
Speaker 1: And that's why Kansas City made the deal. I mean,
Speaker 1: you out receive rice, you're with out Hollywood Brown and
Speaker 1: you get a you know for checkho not Kareem Hunters
Speaker 1: come in and did an unbelievable job. But the likelihood
Speaker 1: of you having multiple guys that can be the next
Speaker 1: man up and give you kind of production that the
Speaker 1: guys that you were counting on to give you that
Speaker 1: production is not very like So back the thing that
Speaker 1: I have for the RAMS is that what is the
Speaker 1: likelihood Ojo, Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 1: if we were to keep Cooper cup right, is what's
Speaker 1: our chance can we win it all? Because once you
Speaker 1: wanted all the only question is can you win it
Speaker 1: all again?
Speaker 5: You know what I said all the time. And for
Speaker 5: those of you that in the chat, football doesn't start.
Speaker 5: Football season doesn't start meaningful football, that mean me add
Speaker 5: that to it. Meaningful football doesn't start until after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: Until after Thankgiving, And with them being three and four,
Speaker 5: now to me how the RAMS organization and Sean McVay
Speaker 5: are looking on the inside.
Speaker 4: Hell, if we went on a run and won seven
Speaker 4: of our.
Speaker 5: Last eight last year, it made the playoffs at ten
Speaker 5: and seven, who to say we can't do it now
Speaker 5: and go on a run and go on a tear.
Speaker 1: And you know the thing, I think it's possible. And
Speaker 1: because the forty nine ers are not what they were.
Speaker 1: You see Seattle, you're right there with them. You see
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, You're right there with them. And so maybe
Speaker 1: that changes that changed your outlook. Also, now if you
Speaker 1: were like where the forty nine ers were, what they
Speaker 1: were six and one maybe seventy one at this point
Speaker 1: last year, you're like, now, we're not catching them. And
Speaker 1: so now because there's a chance you can win the division,
Speaker 1: there's a chance you will get. If you win the division,
Speaker 1: obviously you get a home game. So maybe that changes
Speaker 1: the thought process. But normally when somebody's on the trade block,
Speaker 1: they don't pull them off, especially if I can get
Speaker 1: what I what I want to get. Kansas City walk
Speaker 1: away because they wanted a law, they wanted a high
Speaker 1: draft pick, and they wanted the Rams to put some
Speaker 1: of that salary bill right.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, nah, naw, let we go hold on it.
Speaker 1: Hey, we got we still got what twelve days November
Speaker 1: the fifth, with the election tuesday, So we're gonna hold
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold on and we'll see what We'll see
Speaker 1: what shakes out. Maybe I hate saying this, but you
Speaker 1: know what, Ojo, maybe somebody else that thinks they got
Speaker 1: a good chance to make the playoffs or make a
Speaker 1: deep run a receiver gets roster.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I mean, I mean, just just looking
Speaker 5: at it, the only thing that makes sense to me,
Speaker 5: obviously Tampa Bay, who has a winning record and probably
Speaker 5: wants to still continue to give Baker an outlet, somewhat
Speaker 5: of a security blanket and someone he can actually get
Speaker 5: the ball to. I mean, just you just have to
Speaker 5: do something like that. I'm sure Baker has spoke to
Speaker 5: management and spoke to the people upstairs, obviously the head
Speaker 5: coach and officer of coordinator about getting another target in
Speaker 5: there so that often can still have some type of
Speaker 5: consistency and and and and and and rhythm with a
Speaker 5: receiver that he can count on consistently down in and
Speaker 5: down out and listen, it might happen. But again, if
Speaker 5: you take Cooper Cup out of that offense, who who
Speaker 5: was double tonight, I think then puoting the coop now
Speaker 5: gets that attention. But Sean mcvay's offense is so creative,
Speaker 5: and so it's so creative and being able to define
Speaker 5: way to get Pood in the pool the wool open,
Speaker 5: I think they would be fine if they were to
Speaker 5: trade Cooper Cup.
Speaker 1: You see Cooper Cup has five for fifty one in
Speaker 1: the touchdown de Marcus Robinson had two catches for thirty
Speaker 1: five yards two touchdown. Conra and Williams even even chipped
Speaker 1: in and had a touchdown catch. So they do a
Speaker 1: great job of spreading the ball around to to ad Well,
Speaker 1: who's played well down they got Stafford threw it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they do a great job of spreading
Speaker 1: the ball around. The tight ends chipped in the night
Speaker 1: had some had some big catches. Hunter Long had one
Speaker 1: for eighteen, Atwell had one for eighteen, Kobe Parkinson had
Speaker 1: two for seventeen. That offense is really predicated on spreading
Speaker 1: the ball around. Now he will the hot man. They're
Speaker 1: gonna throw it, they're gonna feed you because we remember
Speaker 1: that that Triple Crown season that Cooper Cup had and
Speaker 1: he's had some other seasons which he's played well, but
Speaker 1: not that historic season that he had during that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl run. So I like this offense and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, maybe that changes things because the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers is not as power as we thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna be and they're not dominating that division, and
Speaker 1: so there's like hold on there, we got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of teams. Anybody can win it. The Cardinals can
Speaker 1: win it, Seattle can win it, We can win it.
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers could get healthy. They can win it.
Speaker 1: But maybe that does change, o Jo, Maybe that does
Speaker 1: change how they see themselves moving forward. And maybe you're
Speaker 1: maybe you're right. Maybe they do pull a Cooper cup
Speaker 1: Buck off the trade block. But if I think a
Speaker 1: big and a third round pick Portmotcho, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna let him go because Sean McVay says, you know what,
Speaker 1: we got Pooka, we got DeMarcus Robinson, we got at well,
Speaker 1: we can spread it around enough and we can make plays.
Speaker 1: Or look Kyron Williams running the football. He ran the
Speaker 1: ball decent night. They kept they balanced it up. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they're they're okay. They're not great, obviously when you lose
Speaker 1: one of the historically great defensive players of all time
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald, but they still can get out of
Speaker 1: the court. They still can get out of your quarterback.
Speaker 1: But if I would love to have seen what would
Speaker 1: have happened, o Jo. If we get that, that's a
Speaker 1: face mask you can't miss.
Speaker 2: You can't miss.
Speaker 1: That call in that spot at that moment and that area,
Speaker 1: because not only do you give them fifteen yards of
Speaker 1: the first down, you take us that's two points for
Speaker 1: the opposing team, and you give the other team the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you did you did three bad things. We don't
Speaker 1: get fifteen yards of the first down, you give them
Speaker 1: two points, and you give them the ball. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: damn whatever you looking at bro, Look I understand you
Speaker 1: you okay, I mean you ain't gonna be averitcation. They're like, hell,
Speaker 1: we try to get this red eye, you know, cause
Speaker 1: you know dead la. They got a red eye of
Speaker 1: probably leave it going wherever they going. At ten thirty
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock right then, like hell, get out here, get showered.
Speaker 1: We could be at the airport, get this red eye.
Speaker 1: We get home in the morning. Back in the morning,
Speaker 1: five thirty six o'clock. Ry, we're stepping off a plane.
Speaker 1: But the Rams win thirty to twenty over the Vice.
Speaker 1: The Vike dropped their second straight games. They were undefeated
Speaker 1: heading into last week.
Speaker 2: No longer.
Speaker 1: They lose two consecutive games to fall the five and
Speaker 1: two to two good teams.
Speaker 2: Now two good teams to good team.
Speaker 5: But obviously the Rams look good tonight because they have
Speaker 5: everybody back healthy on offense, truity got damn hey that
Speaker 5: God damn jeff before we go home with that, god
Speaker 5: damned Justin Jefferson. Man, yeah, man, Lord have mercy.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, they find a way to get him
Speaker 2: the ball. Oh show.
Speaker 1: He in this offense is what Cooper Cup is in
Speaker 1: the Rams office when Cooper Cup because that's where Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell came from.
Speaker 2: And so they find ways to get him the ball.
Speaker 1: They put him in the slot, they'll stack him, they
Speaker 1: put him in motion, they line him up outside. Now
Speaker 1: he lines up way more outside than Cooper Cup does.
Speaker 1: Is mainly a slot, mainly the motion guy. But they
Speaker 1: will do a lot of different things with Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: He's a good route runner. Cooper Cupp is a really
Speaker 1: good rock runner. Because the thing is when you play
Speaker 1: in this offense and they're gonna throw you this many balls,
Speaker 1: oh show, you gotta be a good rock runner because
Speaker 1: the quarterback got to know where you're gonna be. You
Speaker 1: can't be drifted, you can't be doing your own thing,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna get Jefferson's gonna get somewhere between one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and one hundred and seventy five targets.
Speaker 4: Hey, could you imagine?
Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine. So how do you want to
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 5: And imagine with them kind of that many targets or
Speaker 5: that many catches? Like I look at I think the
Speaker 5: most catches that had in the season was ninety seven, Yeah,
Speaker 5: ninety seven. I just think about I look at some
Speaker 5: of the some of the players, you know, one hundred
Speaker 5: and forty four, one hundred and thirty three.
Speaker 4: Catch I'm like, but god, damn, I'm crazy.
Speaker 5: If I was in that type of offense, what would
Speaker 5: my numbers have been? If I was able to get
Speaker 5: that many opportunities to catch the damn ball?
Speaker 4: Like, that's crazy. The way the game has changed, you know.
Speaker 2: Or you're gonna get more, you're gonna get more hits.
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to give somebody that kind of that
Speaker 1: kind of those kind of targets when they mainly play outside.
Speaker 1: If you look at the guys that normally get that
Speaker 1: kind of catches, they normally play a lot and they
Speaker 1: play a lot of You look at you look at
Speaker 1: ab you look at Michael Thomas, you look at Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: you look at the guys that get those kind of catchers, though, Joe,
Speaker 1: you ain't just playing outside because I can't just I
Speaker 1: can't scheme. I can't diagram enough plays outside the numbers.
Speaker 1: I've got to get you some catches in the middle
Speaker 1: between the hashes. I've got to get you, you know,
Speaker 1: some jail break screens. I gotta get you a lot
Speaker 1: of I gotta one hundred I think, Cooper, I mean
Speaker 1: what one hundred and eighty, one hundred and ninety targets.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, she's a lot of damn targets.
Speaker 1: Man, that's at least that's at least heed to eleven
Speaker 1: targets a.
Speaker 5: Game, right, I mainly I mainly played on the outside.
Speaker 5: I didn't do a damage on the inside.
Speaker 2: T J.
Speaker 4: Houston Is obviously was was an animal. He was an animal.
Speaker 5: And then being able to be able to rezone honestly,
Speaker 5: and I could just be, I could be honest with you,
Speaker 5: there's a there's a certain being inside like that.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a certain uncomfortability for me. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know why I am a lot of congress
Speaker 4: in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed being on the outside.
Speaker 5: Man, the man, if you're double team and sometimes even
Speaker 5: with a double team, the first person. Obviously, if there's
Speaker 5: the double team and you're playing thirty five man to
Speaker 5: or whatever it might have been, the person in.
Speaker 4: Front of me didn't exist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't exist most of the time, even with
Speaker 5: the double even with the safety shaded over on the hash,
Speaker 5: Carson knew, whatever the route concept might have been, the
Speaker 5: person in front of me did not exist.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm beat him. No, And that's what.
Speaker 4: I'm front of everything off the safety.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat him m hm with my technique.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Beat the second guy with.
Speaker 4: The throw, bingo, bingo.
Speaker 2: I got him.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about him. I got him. Yeah, you take
Speaker 1: care of the safety with the throw.
Speaker 5: And I think that's one of the reasons why I
Speaker 5: didn't play on the play on the inside much because
Speaker 5: you didn't really have to put me in there for
Speaker 5: me to be able to get open. So if teams
Speaker 5: came in the game saying, you know what, we taking
Speaker 5: you out the game, no matter what, we not allowing
Speaker 5: you to do anything, there would be a certain times
Speaker 5: but Carson would go off script and right before I
Speaker 5: leave the huddle, I'm coming to you anyway, Jesus whispered,
Speaker 5: I'm coming to you anyway, so that that let me know. Okay,
Speaker 5: whoever's in front of me within arms reach, it don't matter.
Speaker 5: You don't even count because I'm running everything off the
Speaker 5: safety at that point. And obviously, just like you said,
Speaker 5: Carson with his arm was always able to you know,
Speaker 5: the throw would beat the second man every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, like I said, when you play
Speaker 1: in the slot, you gotta be really technical sound because
Speaker 1: you can't drift because a lot of times if you drift,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a headache for you. Because the quarterback
Speaker 1: gotta protect you a lot because a lot of times
Speaker 1: you don't see and you see a lot of time
Speaker 1: when guys back shoulder the slot guy, he tried to
Speaker 1: tell you there's danger in front of you.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm saving your headache.
Speaker 1: I'm saving you for having him come on the field
Speaker 1: and asking all you okay, where do you hurt?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's hurting?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to save you because a lot of times
Speaker 1: the quarterback then see what you can and a lot
Speaker 1: of times those collisions are instantaneous. You catch fail at
Speaker 1: least Ojo were you outside, you got some time. But
Speaker 1: if you notice you look at edel when you look
Speaker 1: at the guys that played the Lots, the West Welkers,
Speaker 1: the Cooper Cups, those guys, a lot of times it's
Speaker 1: ca yeah, and so you got to really really take
Speaker 1: care of your body in there because you hey, you
Speaker 1: gonna get hit a lot of times, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times it's gonna be you know, you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get hit and you don't catch it.
Speaker 1: So hey, they tried to put hats on you regardless
Speaker 1: because they want to make it like, Okay, Damn, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go back in there
Speaker 1: and catch that other one.
Speaker 2: But this Detroit hangover the real thing. Teams are not
Speaker 2: zero and five after playing.
Speaker 1: The Lions this season, as the Bikes did this past Sunday.
Speaker 1: So after you play the Lions, don't the chalk that
Speaker 1: thing up, Oh Joe. Life at the Cowboys practice facility
Speaker 1: is undergoing a lot of scrutiny. This week, big Old
Speaker 1: profile on Jared Jones uh and life of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: facility in general dropped on ESPN.
Speaker 2: The article focused is on how the Cowboys fans are allowed.
Speaker 1: To tour the team's facility with a level of access
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist anywhere in football. These teams, these tours
Speaker 1: come at the expense of the players and happiness and comfort.
Speaker 1: Several former Cowboys told es fans that the tours one
Speaker 1: of Jerry's one of the biggest distractions of working in
Speaker 1: Jerry's world, and contradictory to the Jones stated goals of
Speaker 1: ending the twenty twenty nine year Super Bowl drought. The article,
Speaker 1: of course, comes with more than a couple of tone death.
Speaker 1: Jerry coachs quotes, it's gold when those players grow through
Speaker 1: our complex out there see the fans, I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen nobody at work got excited because normally it happens
Speaker 1: on your day off. It doesn't normally they don't normally
Speaker 1: have tours during the week Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday normally, oh, Joe, normally.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it is. I can only speak
Speaker 1: two places. I've been in Denver, I've been in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Normally it's Tuesday or they'll come as we're starting to
Speaker 1: trick a lot of there on a Saturday, right, but
Speaker 1: normally not when it's a work date. You're not having that,
Speaker 1: Jerry says, you know the fan that the player. They
Speaker 1: love it, They loves it. I've never heard any complaint, really,
Speaker 1: jer Hey, boss, let me tell you, I got a
Speaker 1: problem with you, right, I don't like the way you do.
Speaker 5: But come on, Jerry, they're not gonna say nothing. But again,
Speaker 5: Jerry is the greatest, greatest salesman of all time.
Speaker 1: I've never heard any complaints about the tours from staff.
Speaker 1: I've never heard any complaint of the tours from staff
Speaker 1: members or players, not one time. But the most important
Speaker 1: thing is it wouldn't make any thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: About what he said.
Speaker 1: He said he's never heard a complaint about the tours
Speaker 1: from staff members or a player, not one time. But
Speaker 1: the most important thing is it wouldn't make a difference anyway, period,
Speaker 1: because overall they're swimming against the stream. If you search
Speaker 1: the article the world zoo, it comes up three separate times.
Speaker 1: These tours apparently generate close to ten million dollars annually,
Speaker 1: which is why I keep saying, why did Jerry care
Speaker 1: if he wins a Super Bowl when he's gonna generate
Speaker 1: three hundred to four hundred to five hundred million regardless
Speaker 1: every year?
Speaker 4: Their care every year, every.
Speaker 1: Year, Kelly's getting three hundred million just from the TV deal.
Speaker 1: Now you see this is separate from the TV deal.
Speaker 1: He has a deal with local radio stations. He has
Speaker 1: a deal with TV station AT and T has the
Speaker 1: naming rights. That's probably twenty million a year. All the
Speaker 1: other rights that the stuff that you see up in
Speaker 1: the stadium. He has his own individual merchandise deal, so
Speaker 1: he prints his own T shirts. Somebody makes a great catch,
Speaker 1: somebody makes a great run, Zeke jumping over somebody, Zeke
Speaker 1: eating Jerry Prince tho shirt boom.
Speaker 2: They just like that. So what's the incentive to win,
Speaker 2: o Joe?
Speaker 1: If you can make let's just say, for the sake
Speaker 1: of argument, you and not call it cut different.
Speaker 2: I gotta go to work.
Speaker 1: But most people you say, you know what, whatever your
Speaker 1: salary is, we're gonna double it and triple it, and
Speaker 1: you ain't got to go to work.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm going I gotta do something.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people say, hold on, you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay me to do nothing. See, Jerry don't make money.
Speaker 1: See it doesn't bother Jerry. If he doesn't win, he
Speaker 1: give y'all that seat. Keep the fans. Now, I can't
Speaker 1: tell the fans how I really feel it's like you said,
Speaker 1: even if if even if the players complain, even if
Speaker 1: staff members complain, it's not gonna make a difference. Right,
Speaker 1: So that's the problem, Jerry. Nobody gonna tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: I heard Dak say. Now, it don't bother me, Ja,
Speaker 1: Dak stop.
Speaker 4: You know he can't say what you want to say exactly.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: You gotta be PC. You got to.
Speaker 1: You ain't have no choice, especially him, And if you're there,
Speaker 1: you gotta be PC. That's why a lot of these guys,
Speaker 1: excuse me, that's no longer there. It's an issue, bro.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying. I ain't trying to. I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to say. I'm dere to word. It's not a zoo,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not an amusement part.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: What it is Jerry's world is it is it is
Speaker 5: for them, it is for him, but normally that's place
Speaker 5: of work.
Speaker 2: We're going to work. Let's hold on.
Speaker 1: How many times do you hear players say, let's keep
Speaker 1: the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, the main thing.
Speaker 1: The main thing to them is these tours and the
Speaker 1: money that it generates.
Speaker 2: Because I saw it had a package.
Speaker 1: You can play thirty dollars, you can play fifty dollars
Speaker 1: or seventy dollars or ninety dollars. Yeah, and it's all
Speaker 1: the time. So you need to tell me you couldn't
Speaker 1: do this on a Saturday. You can't do this on
Speaker 1: a Monday. You got to do this on a workday
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, I get a.
Speaker 2: Chance to see. I got a chance to see.
Speaker 1: I saw the back of Dack's head or I saw
Speaker 1: this guy's.
Speaker 4: And that's why, because he's doing it.
Speaker 5: When the players are actually there, then you can ask,
Speaker 5: you can you're asking price can be a little bit
Speaker 5: more because now you have access to be able to
Speaker 5: have visual contact or maybe even speak to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: So it's different. So basically, Jerry, it ain't Jerry's world.
Speaker 5: Ain't It's no different than Jurassic Park when they had
Speaker 5: the tour out there movie, same concept, same concept.
Speaker 2: If I go on a safari, Oh Joe, I want
Speaker 2: to see the elephants.
Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see the lions
Speaker 1: chase down the wheel to beasts of the sail.
Speaker 2: I want to see that. I want to see the
Speaker 2: cheat to get something.
Speaker 1: I'm going to see the hippopotamus, and I want to
Speaker 1: go see the Big five or the Big seven, whatever,
Speaker 1: the cape buffalo, the rhino, the hippo, the elephant, the lion,
Speaker 1: the whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: I want to see that.
Speaker 1: So if I pay for that excursion, I'm expecting to
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 5: See you better than me. You can't put me on
Speaker 5: the excursion. You can't put me in the safari because
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be the one out that goddamn car.
Speaker 2: You ain't getting at that car. Ain'ty word I'm gonna be.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the one out of the car trying
Speaker 4: to pet ship.
Speaker 2: I bet you won't. Let you guess what and all
Speaker 2: you're gonna see is.
Speaker 5: Real They think about that, think about this, look at all,
Speaker 5: think think about all the crazy stuff out there.
Speaker 2: Just you not in a zoo. That's not a petting zoo.
Speaker 2: That's real life.
Speaker 4: That's that's what makes it that much more exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't getting at that cars.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you rolled the bulls, but see
Speaker 1: them lions eat bulls. They what you think they do
Speaker 1: to people?
Speaker 5: Hold on, I ain't say nothing. I ain't getting out
Speaker 5: by no lions. Now what you getting out to do
Speaker 5: everything else. Everything you said, I'm.
Speaker 1: Part of them, says are more dangerous the river horse,
Speaker 1: it's more dangerous than the lion.
Speaker 2: Territorial.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you somebody, Hippos, they ain't got no
Speaker 4: lateral movement.
Speaker 2: They run faster than you think.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they run.
Speaker 5: About twenty twenty five thirty miles an hour. Yeah that's
Speaker 5: in a straight line. I said, they ain't got no
Speaker 5: lateral movement. Hey, remember how baby D was shaking up?
Speaker 5: Maybe how Baby Duh and Friday was shaking up?
Speaker 1: No, what's gonna ask you? Was a day they was
Speaker 1: shaking Baby D.
Speaker 2: Shaking Baby D. Hippo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stop stop playing with me.
Speaker 2: You do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Just sitting there, sitting the jeep that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: cover on it, and just admire the beauty of the
Speaker 1: Great Land of Africa, because that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. I ain't trying to pet nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't go to the zoo. Look at the pet
Speaker 1: And when they say you go to the zoo, I
Speaker 1: haven't been to the zoo in a while. But when
Speaker 1: they say don't tap the glass, I ain't.
Speaker 4: Tapping the glass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they say, don't feed the animals. Don't I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feed them. I listen to what they say.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be no hero. I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to make no news or I did this. I did
Speaker 1: that because the first thing they do, just like when
Speaker 1: the uh when they ended up killing Harambi, that big
Speaker 1: silver back.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah on your kids, Yeah, kill that.
Speaker 1: He ain't bothered. First of all, he should have even
Speaker 1: been in that mouth. That's first to forble. I hate
Speaker 1: to see the animals. I hate seeing them in there.
Speaker 1: I like to observe them in their natural habitat, because yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Want the wrong. They want a wrong. These animals want
Speaker 2: a wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean they got lions can travel hundreds of thousand
Speaker 1: kilometers a day.
Speaker 2: He goes all these dudes rocking there, and oh that's him.
Speaker 5: He let no, but you know he's think about it.
Speaker 5: I think about captivity. You know, it's it's it's not
Speaker 5: it's not a good thing. I'm I'm not for it,
Speaker 5: especially when it came to killer whales being in captivity.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, understanding how they're treated.
Speaker 5: But I think about all the people that love would
Speaker 5: love the opportunity that don't have the resource or the
Speaker 5: income or the revenue to be able to see some
Speaker 5: of these animals in their natural habitat.
Speaker 2: Geographic that ain't their natural habitat.
Speaker 5: No, I've said that don't have the resources to fly
Speaker 5: and go see them in their natural habits.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of stuff we go see right right, But.
Speaker 5: That's It's like, so in a sense, I kind of
Speaker 5: kind of feel a little sympathetic for those that can't
Speaker 5: and have have the ability to go to a zoo
Speaker 5: and see animals that they would never be able to
Speaker 5: fly to Africa or out the country to be able
Speaker 5: to see in their natural habitat.
Speaker 4: That's all. But I'm really not for captivity.
Speaker 2: I either.
Speaker 1: While I was reading were killer whale, whether it's San Antonio,
Speaker 1: the killer whales started pooping in the water and just
Speaker 1: aready splashes it on people.
Speaker 2: Kill get up.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have been off to the side
Speaker 1: in the waterlock wrong, long with it so he can slack.
Speaker 1: Get y'all ass up out of here. Yeah, but Jerry boy,
Speaker 1: Jerry Man, Jerry just don't get it, O Joe, he don't,
Speaker 1: So you know what, let him, Let him, Let him
Speaker 1: live his life as the ultimate pt Bonham, the greatest
Speaker 1: sales one of the greatest salesman ever, and that's what
Speaker 1: he is. But he doesn't realize. He realized, he knows
Speaker 1: it is in the way, but he can't help himself.
Speaker 1: He wants that credit, he wants that adulation. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: it'll been interested to see. I want to know, does
Speaker 1: anybody know if he had these tours when Jimmy was there?
Speaker 1: When did they start these Wait?
Speaker 4: I don't think it started until they got the Jerry's world.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that. No, that's not a Jered world.
Speaker 1: That's at Ford. That's at the Ford Conflict.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: The Star, that's what they call it, the Star. But
Speaker 1: it is sponsible by Ford, didn't Doesn't Ford have their
Speaker 1: name on the building?
Speaker 2: Yes? You see?
Speaker 1: Oh you see at and T and Ford. So he
Speaker 1: got two big sponsors, right, that's right, cause he got
Speaker 1: a car.
Speaker 4: He got a car.
Speaker 5: He got the Ford car sitting inside of say, okay,
Speaker 5: you're right, mm hm, you're right.
Speaker 2: Coyboy. Drama doesn't stop there.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy clapped back at Jerry in a rare inner
Speaker 1: management spat first on whoa whoa Jet First on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Jerry went on the radio show saying, we're designing bad
Speaker 1: plays or we're designing bad concepts. The fact that there's
Speaker 1: so much of that, but there's there's also some execution issues.
Speaker 1: There's some some of it of the talent. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 1: He said, I like our talent. I really do like
Speaker 1: our talent. I bet you do, cause you selected it.
Speaker 1: You never gonna oh Joe more time than not. People
Speaker 1: are not gonna say it's my fault because if he
Speaker 1: said he didn't like the talent, what would that be
Speaker 1: a direct indictment on him because he picks the talent.
Speaker 2: Mike Carthy seemingly took the critique personally.
Speaker 1: It responded to reporters on Wednesday saying, I talked to
Speaker 1: Jerry all the time. We have to go through self scout,
Speaker 1: so I didn't see the comments specifically. I don't think
Speaker 1: we have bad concepts and bad plays. I'll go back
Speaker 1: and check, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 4: What did sug Knight say when he got on stage.
Speaker 1: If you if you want to come, if you want
Speaker 1: to if you want to make a lot of money
Speaker 1: and don't want somebody dancing in your video to to
Speaker 1: death row.
Speaker 5: And people think people think Bill Belichick, if Mike McCarthy
Speaker 5: doesn't work out there, you think one of the greatest
Speaker 5: coaches of all time would come and joining that circus
Speaker 5: so he can look like a clown.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: But I remember, hold on, oh, Joe, do you remember
Speaker 1: just a week ago when Jerry Jones threatened a man
Speaker 1: when he was asking him about Derek not signing Derek
Speaker 1: Henry some of the other You remember how Jerry snapped,
Speaker 1: don't he Yeah, to point the finger. We're designing bad
Speaker 1: players of bad concept. You don't know the difference. You
Speaker 1: don't know the difference between a screenplay and a screen port.
Speaker 1: So what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Jerry?
Speaker 1: You food the people long enough they hand you a
Speaker 1: sheet of paper, it says, Okay, these are the guys
Speaker 1: that were Scott.
Speaker 2: Jerry ain't watching no damn film.
Speaker 4: You don't think so, No, so you don't think you
Speaker 4: know what. I'm glad you just said that.
Speaker 5: How many owners in the NFL are actually football guys.
Speaker 5: I'm about literal football guys.
Speaker 1: Even if they are football guys, they're not watching film. Okay,
Speaker 1: John Morrow, he grew up his daddy found of the giants.
Speaker 1: He ain't watching no tape to ruin. Is their daddy
Speaker 1: and granddad founded that he ain't watching no damn.
Speaker 4: Tape right right right right.
Speaker 1: First of all, you know miss Virginia mccaske, get help.
Speaker 1: She's ninety plus years old. Her daddy was George Hallis
Speaker 1: you know damn well, she ain't watching no tape.
Speaker 4: Right right right.
Speaker 5: So, but they do have the green light to sign
Speaker 5: off on the players that they bring in who they want.
Speaker 1: Yes, but Will McLay and the scouting department is doing
Speaker 1: all of that, And and Jerry are sheep? Now he
Speaker 1: might say, well I like this guy better than that guy,
Speaker 1: but he ain't done no damn scouting. Jarry Jos ain't
Speaker 1: going to no seat. He might go down and see
Speaker 1: you go to drink. He go to the combine to
Speaker 1: drink and have the guys there. But Jerry, come on, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how this work. See Jerry won't I
Speaker 1: remember I said this. He wants all the credit for
Speaker 1: the success and none of the blame. Now, he ain't
Speaker 1: say nothing about oh this the concept is the play design.
Speaker 1: What about the players that you gave him? What about
Speaker 1: the running backs? You got three running backs. And Dereck
Speaker 1: Henry got four hundred yards, four hundred more yards than
Speaker 1: all three of them. How many more touchdowns does he have?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: But Derrick Henry wouldn't do that in our offense? Why
Speaker 1: because you know why? Because y'all dumb enough to not
Speaker 1: to know how to use him. See what you see?
Speaker 1: What you see? What Mindisoina Baltimore did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Put it as that the capital I and not so
Speaker 1: much the offset, so we can maximize what Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: is right, that's funny. Why would I use a Sharawa
Speaker 1: curtain for a carpet? That's not what it was made for?
Speaker 1: You see, Jerry, that just goes to show me you
Speaker 1: don't know football. You just be talking and you convinced
Speaker 1: people just because a lot of times people have a
Speaker 1: lot of money, people think they're smart.
Speaker 2: And Jerry is a fabulous business man.
Speaker 1: I will not take that away from him because he's
Speaker 1: worth almost sixteen billion dollars. But Jerry don't know football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just because you I'm the general manager and I
Speaker 1: can do a great job, do a great job.
Speaker 2: And what I tell you? What you so smart? Fire?
Speaker 1: Will McClay tell, Will McClay say, know what I don't
Speaker 1: want you to do no more scouting. Tell the scouting department,
Speaker 1: y'all take y'all take the money, y'all take the year off.
Speaker 8: I got this, and let's see what you do. Hey,
Speaker 8: you know you're trying to draft folk kickers. Hey, you
Speaker 8: had a good one in there too. Now you you
Speaker 8: you're not finna get away with that one. What you
Speaker 8: said about that shower curtain again, let me put that
Speaker 8: in my notes. I ain't got a ray wo.
Speaker 2: No o, Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what I'm what I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: is that you gotta use the person or the item
Speaker 1: for what you purchased it for a shower curtain, it's
Speaker 1: meant to be. You use it as shower curtain. You
Speaker 1: don't use it as coffee. You don't use it as
Speaker 1: a throw rug. So Derrick Henry is an I back
Speaker 1: Baltimore's Baltimore scheme is basically offset eye zone read. But
Speaker 1: they say, you know what, we're not getting our bang
Speaker 1: for our buck with dark Henry. Lamar has done a
Speaker 1: great job compromising some of his game because he plays
Speaker 1: better in the zone read. But look at what the
Speaker 1: look out his office look. Since they put d Henry
Speaker 1: in the eye. Had it mainly and the offset eye
Speaker 1: in the zone read against Kansas City, some of that
Speaker 1: against the Raiders.
Speaker 2: But that man heals it.
Speaker 6: Eight.
Speaker 2: Let him see. He's sitting there.
Speaker 1: He can see the whole field, because it's hard to
Speaker 1: see when you're on one side to see what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's why I put him in the eye. And I oh,
Speaker 1: he could scan. He could look. He looking straight ahead,
Speaker 1: but out of his peripheral he can see. Okay, I
Speaker 1: see wherever this thing, where this thing is going, how
Speaker 1: they're flowing.
Speaker 2: You see what he did. They put him in the I.
Speaker 1: They tossed it the other night when he went eighty one,
Speaker 1: he saw the Winfield Junior coming down, go ahead by
Speaker 1: hit them burners on him with eighty one. Now he
Speaker 1: didn't see the other the corner that came from the
Speaker 1: far the faress on it was on the offenses right,
Speaker 1: so if the defenses left, he didn't see him until
Speaker 1: it was too late.
Speaker 2: But dude was booking.
Speaker 1: He met him at a point because when Henry was
Speaker 1: on this side, you could see it. Byoe they were
Speaker 1: all twenty two. You can see it. I'm gonna intercept
Speaker 1: him at a point. I don't even think what you
Speaker 1: call him saw it, neither Aguilar, because Aguilar was running
Speaker 1: and he didn't see him till it was too late.
Speaker 1: By that time, Henry had already passed him, and then
Speaker 1: he took his legs out from under it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that just goes to show me that took accountability today
Speaker 1: for the dollars slow start offensively. I say I played
Speaker 1: average below and average isn't good enough to wear right
Speaker 1: now by eighty means it's never been good enough for me.
Speaker 1: I can't say that I've been happy or excited after
Speaker 1: any of these games that I've played. I can play better,
Speaker 1: for sure, and I expect to a competion percentage. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three he had, he was second at almost
Speaker 1: seventy percent. In twenty twenty four, he's twenty four pass yards.
Speaker 1: He was third with four over forty five hundred. Right
Speaker 1: now he's six and he's tenth. Excuse me, but don't
Speaker 1: let that fool you, because think about how much they've
Speaker 1: been behind and then had to throw the ball to
Speaker 1: get back into the ball game. Past attemph per game,
Speaker 1: he was a seven point no pass yards attempt. He
Speaker 1: was sixth at seven point seven seven point two, which
Speaker 1: is seventeenth pass tds.
Speaker 2: He was thirty six time for first.
Speaker 1: He is eight right now, tied for fifteen touchdown an
Speaker 1: interception ratio. He was thirty six to nine which was
Speaker 1: set right now he's eight and six, which is time
Speaker 1: for twenty third.
Speaker 2: His passer rating was almost one oh.
Speaker 1: Six and now it's eighty five point five, which is
Speaker 1: almost eighty six percent, which is twenty first.
Speaker 2: So you could see his.
Speaker 1: Numbers are down really across the board, and he's, like
Speaker 1: you said, he's played He says average.
Speaker 2: I think he's played below average, right, But you put
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Of pressure on your quarterback, oh hoe, when you have
Speaker 1: no resemblance of a running game and you ask him
Speaker 1: to just drop back and throw the ball time after
Speaker 1: time after time, and teams have said, you know what, really,
Speaker 1: you only got one weapon. You don't have anybody else
Speaker 1: at the skill position that can beat us. You don't
Speaker 1: have a running back and beat us. You don't have
Speaker 1: and I like Ferguson, but you don't have a tight
Speaker 1: end that can beat us. And you don't have anybody
Speaker 1: outside of CD that can beat us. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: double him and we'll take our tasks with Tober, We'll
Speaker 1: take our chances with Ferguson, which take our chance with
Speaker 1: those three running backs, because we don't believe anybody outside
Speaker 1: of CD can beat us. Offensive line don't block particularly well,
Speaker 1: don't run block particularly well, they don't ass block particularly well.
Speaker 2: So boy, you and a buying you got to be
Speaker 2: able to do one to the other. Pretty good, O Joe, right, I.
Speaker 5: Said, But hell, you know, as bad as as bad
Speaker 5: as the Cowboys have played defensively, as bad as they were,
Speaker 5: as subpar as the Office has been playing as well,
Speaker 5: I see them actually coming out to buy and having
Speaker 5: a good game, having a good game against the forty
Speaker 5: nine ers, who do have a good defense, but they're
Speaker 5: depleted on the office end by so much. This is
Speaker 5: a game that the Cowboys can win. It's a game
Speaker 5: that they can win, especially if they can get ahead.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be fine. So if you bet, man,
Speaker 5: listen to me. You know, I'm not saying I have
Speaker 5: the script or anything, but I know and I have
Speaker 5: a feeling that the calfis don't come out, They're gonna
Speaker 5: win this game and probably string string of you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say string a few games along, but coming
Speaker 5: off the by, I think they're gonna win this game
Speaker 5: against the forty nine.
Speaker 1: How they gonna protect them against Leonard Floyd and Bosa?
Speaker 2: How are you gonn protect them?
Speaker 1: And even though they might not have them, the one
Speaker 1: thing that the the Niners can still do is run
Speaker 1: the football. Can't the Cowboys do stop the run, can't
Speaker 1: stop the run. So I think the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: feel good. Obviously they would love to have their weapons on.
Speaker 1: Show you down, de Bo?
Speaker 2: You down? Are you? You're down? Jennings?
Speaker 1: Uh, you might be down. Kittle who has a spring foot.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that thing plays out. You're you're without
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, but you have a solid running game. But
Speaker 1: would I be surprised if the forty nine ers one? No,
Speaker 1: But that's asking an awful lot. Hey, ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love here, looking forward to it, and I
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Speaker 6: to night to talk about this new album and all
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 4: Listen, it's one thing, but it's one thing I always do.
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Speaker 4: You know you know me, you know, I like to
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Speaker 5: One thing when I do talk and I do walk
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Speaker 4: Put them in their place, and they lucky.
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for football, I'd probably be the best
Speaker 5: lyricists of all time.
Speaker 4: And that go for you too.
Speaker 2: I got to laugh at that.
Speaker 6: That shit sound like a fancy song, still trying to
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Speaker 6: you know. And I'm really not into being like a
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Speaker 6: before we get to the bars and ship, or you
Speaker 6: want to.
Speaker 7: Start talking about something else, Come on, what we're doing.
Speaker 4: I'm not listen.
Speaker 5: One thing you're not gonna do. You're not gonna out
Speaker 5: talk to me. You're not gonna out talk to me.
Speaker 5: That's my game and that's my lane. I've always been
Speaker 5: famed for doing just that kind of game.
Speaker 4: So however you want to do it, we do it.
Speaker 4: Because when I'm done with You're gonna be your shoe
Speaker 4: with no laces.
Speaker 2: This ain't with you. Say that again? Say that again, Bro,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4: This is my game and I ain't talking about no fame.
Speaker 4: When I'm done with.
Speaker 5: You, You're gonna be your shoe with no laces, I'm have
Speaker 5: you grabbing your fingers by your faces.
Speaker 4: They don't play with me, man.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about your hell.
Speaker 4: What do you want to do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm goncha sure you better than I can tell you.
Speaker 6: After I puts plug in this project once again, everybody
Speaker 6: in the whole planet, please be clear. Bust the rhymes.
Speaker 6: I'm not taking my foot off the gas pedal. Nobody
Speaker 6: can't breathe fresh after the fresh off of the Out
Speaker 6: of This World tour with my sister Missy Misdemeanor Elliott,
Speaker 6: my sister Sierra, my brother Timbling, one of the most
Speaker 6: incredible and successful tours for the entire twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: I gotta also just let it be known, and my
Speaker 6: brother's trip for Quest and my beautiful system Mary J.
Speaker 6: Blinse to Clean a Hip Hop on be and Soul
Speaker 6: all just got inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame this last Saturday.
Speaker 2: Indeed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And all of these names have been a part of
Speaker 6: my legacy, and I've been deeply into woven into their legacies,
Speaker 6: and all of them are, in some way, shape, fashion
Speaker 6: of form, more than me to become and evolve into
Speaker 6: what I am currently and all of that is being
Speaker 6: put into this new album bag and season dropping eleven,
Speaker 6: twenty nine, twenty twenty four, Thanksgiving night, the morning of
Speaker 6: Black Friday. Y'all all know what to do. Not playing
Speaker 6: no games. We ain't showing no mercy. And you know,
Speaker 6: I think everybody just start. We just start, you know,
Speaker 6: just thinking they they play and start readjusting with their
Speaker 6: next move, and their best move is gonna be because
Speaker 6: like I said, prisoners is expensive. You know, when you competing,
Speaker 6: I just want to put them in the ground. You
Speaker 6: ain't got a harp or nothing. You ain't got the shelter, nothing,
Speaker 6: close up and feed nothing. Just put it in the ground.
Speaker 6: So that's really what we're gonna do when they come
Speaker 6: to this music, and in that aspect, everybody just need
Speaker 6: to just be careful because they know what time it
Speaker 6: is when they come to bush Lines, we're gonna be
Speaker 6: givers of love. But when we respectfully competing, smacking DNA
Speaker 6: out of everybody, pause of their skin, that's really what
Speaker 6: it's what.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is.
Speaker 6: When it's all said and done, real talk, it's so buss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back, because you come up in an era
Speaker 1: where guys competed. Gods you all all and coolmo D
Speaker 1: you saw guys going at each other, so you had
Speaker 1: no problem with well transpid this summer with Kendrick Lamar
Speaker 1: and Drake Drake.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely not. I thought it was great.
Speaker 6: I thought it was like for the sport and for
Speaker 6: the art of respectfully competing. You know, battles can be
Speaker 6: very disrespectful. Yeah, and you know, for for us, as
Speaker 6: long as it stays on what Yes, it's it's it's
Speaker 6: it's it's fun, it's entertainment, and it's also you know,
Speaker 6: still shop and still because it could happen to anybody.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you're really getting this thing and you're.
Speaker 6: Trying to classify yourself as a thoroughbred MC, just make
Speaker 6: sure at any given time when somebody call your name
Speaker 6: and want to make sure that you you you're about
Speaker 6: what you say you about that you can do to
Speaker 6: your business. And that's really what it is. And it
Speaker 6: just was great to see it and actually, to me
Speaker 6: might have been probably one of the most incredible battles
Speaker 6: that I've ever seen since the inception of the hip
Speaker 6: hop culture.
Speaker 1: I had Fat Joe on the I have Fat Joe
Speaker 1: and Fat Joe said he was disappointed with Jay Cole
Speaker 1: because they called him off the porch and he didn't come.
Speaker 1: Joe says that when somebody called you off the porch,
Speaker 1: you got to see what they're talking about. So bust,
Speaker 1: if somebody called Buster off the porch, you go it.
Speaker 6: There ain't never been a time that I'm not going
Speaker 6: or that I haven't went, you feel mean, as a
Speaker 6: matter of fact, As a matter of fact, if there
Speaker 6: ain't no vehicle to pull up to the goal, then
Speaker 6: the uber or the lift better be on deck.
Speaker 7: We pulled it up.
Speaker 2: You better believe that shit. I look forward with this
Speaker 2: shit like that, and I.
Speaker 6: Enjoy it because again, as long as this respectful competition
Speaker 6: and everybody know we ain't gonna take it beyond that.
Speaker 6: I live for those moments because I come from the
Speaker 6: cover when it wasn't known. You know, it wasn't on Internet,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't on social media platforms, and then you know,
Speaker 6: you really didn't even It wasn't even about the mixtapes.
Speaker 6: It was just about when you're outside and motherfucker see you,
Speaker 6: when they could spit if the motherfucker no matter where
Speaker 6: you were, that you could be in front of.
Speaker 2: A picture spot.
Speaker 6: If a dude want to pull up or start carrying
Speaker 6: on like he wants smoke, you gotta be with the ship.
Speaker 6: And that's the way that you actually got your buzz.
Speaker 6: It was word of mouth. It was people actually being
Speaker 6: in a moment in real time, watching motherfuckers get busy
Speaker 6: as real mcs. And that's what that's what I come from.
Speaker 6: I don't know it no other way. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I still live by that. I don't fix it,
Speaker 6: ain't broke, I ain't here to change no rules. I
Speaker 6: ain't here to abandon the foundation the ship was built on.
Speaker 6: I might add a few floors to the skyscraper, but
Speaker 6: were gonna, you know, we're gonna stay with the foundation
Speaker 6: this ship was built on though, you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: it's being an og.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us some of your information because you in
Speaker 1: the era, You from the NYC, you from where it started.
Speaker 1: So who were some of the guys that busted looked
Speaker 1: up to? It is like, man, I like that, that's me.
Speaker 7: That list is long, but I'm gonna go through a
Speaker 7: few of the names.
Speaker 6: Rock, Kim Slick, Rick Kaus, one Run dmc ll yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: Chuck b this monkey, and I'm gonna take it. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna move a little forward. Let's let's let's
Speaker 6: go from that generation to the generation after day soul
Speaker 6: tribe called quest.
Speaker 2: Uh. That's effects uh effects far side.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, diggable planets, Let's say uh,
Speaker 6: let's say uh slum village from the d hey Troit.
Speaker 6: Let's move on to the next generation. Let's go to
Speaker 6: Let's go to uh.
Speaker 2: Eminem Yes, Kanye.
Speaker 6: Even for real, because everybody thinks for Rell just make
Speaker 6: bea Sorella is one of the most venomous sesh any
Speaker 6: ready to put his pen to the paper. Got the
Speaker 6: salute Snoop Dog all day, every day, even on Sunday,
Speaker 6: said Snoop Dog is dangerous as hell with it too.
Speaker 6: And and and let me just big up j Cole,
Speaker 6: Let me big up Kendrick, let me big up Tyler
Speaker 6: the Creator, Let me big up.
Speaker 2: Did I say slick with Elliott?
Speaker 1: You did that first?
Speaker 2: Rock him? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and and I'm gonna be honest, man, I
Speaker 6: love some of these new mcs too, from the now generation.
Speaker 6: Like I'm a fan of Connie Diamond. She's incredible to me.
Speaker 6: I'm a fan. I'm a fan of uh I hope
Speaker 6: I'm saying his name right. This brother's name is O'hassevant.
Speaker 6: He's like one of them underground the Seeds. That is
Speaker 6: one of the most leths that I've heard in a
Speaker 6: long time. The incredible female m see and and and
Speaker 6: Just Dope from See Period Rhapsody. Missy Elliott my twin,
Speaker 6: you know what I meaning like. She's the first female
Speaker 6: MC to ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame to this day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But beyond just MC and she could do, she's just
Speaker 6: honble for writing the songs for your favorite artist, some
Speaker 6: of the biggest records to this day. That's why I
Speaker 6: don't see Missy Towans too much because Missy getting so
Speaker 6: much bags from writing everybody else shit. She can sit
Speaker 6: at home in jail with a seat of so salute
Speaker 6: the Missy too. And I got a big up rod
Speaker 6: digga the first, the first got a big up rod digger.
Speaker 6: She's unbelievable. And the one thing that I like about
Speaker 6: these female mcs, which is it almost feels like an
Speaker 6: injustice to call them a female MC, is because I
Speaker 6: know a lot of dudes that don't even want no
Speaker 6: smoke with them, So they just incredible MC's. It ain't
Speaker 6: even about them being females. But you know, we we
Speaker 6: we we say that because that's just the term that
Speaker 6: we was raised to describe by what female m seeds as.
Speaker 6: But if you're really asking me, I just think that
Speaker 6: they dope m seeds without the the pretakes of the
Speaker 6: female part added to them. See, I just think they
Speaker 6: are really some of the most dangerous pens and overall
Speaker 6: just brilliant minds and genius artists period, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But again, like I said, my lesson is long,
Speaker 6: and I'll keep going and going and going. There's also
Speaker 6: another new artist by the name Matullion that's incredible to me,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: B K Gutter.
Speaker 2: T Money, Jay Dole.
Speaker 6: It's it's like I just like to keep my finger
Speaker 6: on the polster everything and just pay attention to all
Speaker 6: of the different MC's that's not only surviving the test
Speaker 6: of time, no matter how the music or the culture
Speaker 6: or the genre or the sound. Not the genre the
Speaker 6: sound might change, because that's a testament to the resilience
Speaker 6: and the consistency and the ability to evolve of the
Speaker 6: elder stationsman and a veteran artists. But I love to
Speaker 6: make sure that I'm in tune with what's new and fresh,
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, I also realize
Speaker 6: that as an elder statesman myself, you can't put a
Speaker 6: timeline on greatness, right, And we got to show them
Speaker 6: better than we could tell them when we say that.
Speaker 6: We got to prove that we able to mean that
Speaker 6: by not only being dope in every error, but being
Speaker 6: in tuned and being aligned with every every every era
Speaker 6: of the game. I got people growing my phone, them
Speaker 6: seeing us on this stream right now, filing everybody want
Speaker 6: to call me right now, niggas leave me alone.
Speaker 7: But in any eject, in any event, my thing is
Speaker 7: my thing.
Speaker 6: Is What is extremely important is that we walk in
Speaker 6: our purpose and we embrace the newer artists and we
Speaker 6: give them the information and we score them and we
Speaker 6: left them up and we support them and make sure
Speaker 6: that we are establishing a.
Speaker 7: Geling and a glue and a bridging of the.
Speaker 6: Gaps and killing that narrative about how you know, we
Speaker 6: ain't really the respect ain't dead the way it's supposed
Speaker 6: to be the respects did tremendously. I think the people
Speaker 6: that's creating that narrative is the ones that's afraid of
Speaker 6: that mutual respect that our general races have because they
Speaker 6: know we're going to empower them and make it less
Speaker 6: likely should these a coach of votes to rob him
Speaker 6: and take advantage of them. So you know, I'm a
Speaker 6: big advocate of not only doing it myself, which is
Speaker 6: why I work with a lot of dope new them sees,
Speaker 6: but I'm a big advocate of making sure that my
Speaker 6: pearents that are also elder statesmen do it. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Oh, I got a big up Queen Latifa,
Speaker 6: big up shot Rock, one of the first female them
Speaker 6: sees ever. I'm bugging, I'm leaving off names they come
Speaker 6: to me. I'm gonna just start blurting it out. But
Speaker 6: you know, that's something that's important primarily to me at
Speaker 6: this time in my career, walking in out with purpose
Speaker 6: and making sure that we did for the new artists
Speaker 6: the way they was there for us, Like Chuck D
Speaker 6: gave me my name, you know what I'm saying, Chuck
Speaker 6: D gave us the name leaders of the New School
Speaker 6: Big Daddy King used to let me come to his
Speaker 6: crib and ask questions. He put me on his albums.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. He put me on his
Speaker 6: Prince of Darkness album and let me why I'm on
Speaker 6: a joint called come on down with Me a Q tip.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: These brothers really was like they gave us. They helped
Speaker 6: them give us the understanding that you got to move
Speaker 6: a certain way. You know what I'm saying, You gotta
Speaker 6: rep the culture a certain way. This shit got to
Speaker 6: be done with integrity, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's almost weird because it's like at that time, if
Speaker 6: an MC wasn't really an MC that was respected by
Speaker 6: the culture or had the right credibility. You know, we
Speaker 6: not like that now, But back then we were so
Speaker 6: pro to culture and the infrastructure and the laws and
Speaker 6: the principles and the morale and trying to be on
Speaker 6: the right side of the moral composite of the culture
Speaker 6: that if you wasn't through it was an MC in
Speaker 6: the culture, we could.
Speaker 7: Be in the same spot. Motherfucker.
Speaker 6: Want to introduce you to him, you wouldn't even want
Speaker 6: to go get introduced to him because you ain't even
Speaker 6: want to be seen stand next to nothing that.
Speaker 7: Got wack juice on it.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's kind of like it's the same thing
Speaker 6: now but not as intense because we understand it's a
Speaker 6: different day, it's a different time. But it's always important
Speaker 6: to encourage EMCs and artist that you know a lot
Speaker 6: of artists they do to rap shit and they not
Speaker 6: really looking to be no EMC and dive into the
Speaker 6: whole thing about overthinking lyrics and being super surgical with
Speaker 6: the bars and all of that, because again, it's a
Speaker 6: different time and the simple a thing that's working for
Speaker 6: a lot of people, and when it's working for him,
Speaker 6: it's all they telling them to fix some shit that
Speaker 6: ain't broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, but they get in the bag doing it.
Speaker 6: They way buff as a fact, and I respect that,
Speaker 6: and they could be doing some bullshit in the street.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna.
Speaker 6: Support anything that anyone is doing that is going to
Speaker 6: be pro life, pro self preservation, pro giving other people
Speaker 6: opportunity once you're put in positioner to be the opportunity provider.
Speaker 6: But we also got to make sure that we uphold
Speaker 6: the integrity of the culture because we got to make
Speaker 6: sure people is coming in this shit and doing shit
Speaker 6: that's going to add to the culture, life, add life
Speaker 6: to it, add integrity to it, shift the climate in
Speaker 6: a productive way. Make sure that we could all still
Speaker 6: be proud of this shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Don't just come in here and try to use this
Speaker 6: shit just to get what you want for you. Make
Speaker 6: sure you're doing this shit with that intent, but also
Speaker 6: knowing that this ship that is helping you get everything
Speaker 6: for you, it's because of it. While you're able to
Speaker 6: get all of this shit for you, So make sure
Speaker 6: you be mindful to give a lot back today.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, bus limit, Yeah, I want to ask you this bus.
Speaker 1: You but you collab with a lot of people. I
Speaker 1: mean Janet Jackson, that phone that you had with Janet,
Speaker 1: And you've collabed with a lot of people. Are they
Speaker 1: any who's out there that you haven't collabed with that
Speaker 1: you'd like to jump on a beat?
Speaker 2: With his hand up? Oh til you sure? Are you ready? Bro? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm read, I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 2: I'm ready because we can do this record.
Speaker 6: Like I said, though, I don't want you, I don't
Speaker 6: want no friendship with you while we're in the booth.
Speaker 4: Bro Okay, okay, okay, all right, So long as.
Speaker 7: Long as you respect that, then we're gonna get in
Speaker 7: this one we're gonna come from.
Speaker 4: I respect that.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 6: All right, let's get to with and y'all stay tuned
Speaker 6: for the bust and bus and o Jo Sinko COLLABORO. Hey,
Speaker 6: so I want you to do him do that bus,
Speaker 6: but do it, don't let it, don't let it, hey,
Speaker 6: don't turn him lose, let me do it. They're saying it.
Speaker 6: I live by what I say, my worry Bram, regardless
Speaker 6: of whom what. So I'm telling you you're gonna see it.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna show y'all better than I can tell y'all.
Speaker 6: And when he get his ass bust and I still
Speaker 6: put the song up because the disclaimer I'm putting it
Speaker 6: out there from now that we're not gonna let Chad.
Speaker 6: We're not gonna let Chad do this. And no, we're
Speaker 6: not gonna let Dad. We're not gonna let the shenan
Speaker 6: against where It's like when he after he gets get this,
Speaker 6: his whole ship disintegrated in the booth.
Speaker 2: You know, we're not gonna let him do the get
Speaker 2: him by Yo.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think the song should come out
Speaker 6: because you know, I don't know if I'm really proud
Speaker 6: of my performance, So no excuses.
Speaker 7: It ain't gonna be no cop and clean. It ain't
Speaker 7: gonna be none of that, bro.
Speaker 6: So whatever we end up with, if you want to
Speaker 6: go back and rewrite that, fine, you know I done
Speaker 6: been in, so done did songs with artists with We
Speaker 6: send each other the verses in you know, one motherfucker
Speaker 6: so like they're getting cooked, they go back back and
Speaker 6: start adding ship and then you know when you feel
Speaker 6: like you gotta go back, and this is.
Speaker 4: I don't have to do that, Bright, I've been cooking.
Speaker 4: I've been cooking forty six years.
Speaker 2: What you talking about?
Speaker 4: I got a squit exquisite in him.
Speaker 8: Bud, I gotta split the penmanship.
Speaker 4: What you talking about? Man?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm trying to see what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: Everybody know what I'm talking about. I've been talking and
Speaker 6: showing improvement for thirty four years.
Speaker 2: I ain't seeing ships.
Speaker 6: From your side of the motherfucking fence, Playboy.
Speaker 4: Where you where you at? Where you at right now?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 6: I'm in the West coast moving and shaking, you know, don't.
Speaker 4: I'm on the West coast. I'll pull up on you
Speaker 4: right now. What's having?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Cool?
Speaker 6: So this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna get
Speaker 6: off this when we finished with this. I'm gonna let
Speaker 6: you need the studio on that because I'm actually going
Speaker 6: to the studio right now. Go into the studio now
Speaker 6: and started since eight o'clock.
Speaker 7: Brou Okay, that's what we're doing. I'm gonna see you tonight.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 4: Hello, you in l A.
Speaker 7: I'm in l A.
Speaker 4: Bro Now, I'm in la right now. I'm in Westwood.
Speaker 6: Good you five minutes from where I'm at. I'm in Westwood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So y'all heard it first.
Speaker 6: You know, Seana said, who's mcs that you may't work
Speaker 6: before that you want to work with I guess you know.
Speaker 6: Ooshenko was the first one, and I ain't work with
Speaker 6: that we're talking about now, so that's number one on
Speaker 6: the list. I haven't worked with Big Sean yet. You know,
Speaker 6: I haven't recorded with uh uh me and Jay Cole.
Speaker 6: We we got something, but I ain't I ain't put
Speaker 6: it out yet. So but you know, I still want
Speaker 6: to do more work with Ja Cole. I'm a big
Speaker 6: fan of j Cole. I'm a huge fan of Kendrick.
Speaker 6: I did work with him, but I want to do
Speaker 6: more with him. But I definitely want to work with
Speaker 6: Connie Diamond. I definitely want to do some work with
Speaker 6: these brothers called Coast Contra. They some new mcs from
Speaker 6: the West Coast and they are phenomenal. It's like I
Speaker 6: see myself in them when they get busy. Want to
Speaker 6: definitely work with those brothers. Like it's like the way
Speaker 6: they perform and the way they they animation, it's like
Speaker 6: I see young buster rhems when I look at them,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I definitely want to
Speaker 6: get busy with those brothers. So big up the Coast
Speaker 6: Concert and there's a there's a bunch of new dope
Speaker 6: mcens that I want to get with and really cook
Speaker 6: some dope shit in the studio with, and maybe even
Speaker 6: just executive somebody some of the projects executive produced. Some
Speaker 6: of the projects, you know, just be able to be
Speaker 6: even if you're not actually collaborating on records together. I
Speaker 6: just feel like with all of this incredible information that
Speaker 6: I've been blessed to receive over the years and throughout time.
Speaker 6: I just want the opportunity to just just share that shit.
Speaker 6: Give the dudes in the and the females, the artists
Speaker 6: that's really doing their thing, opportunity to just take this
Speaker 6: information and make it theirs and evolve that shit into
Speaker 6: something else that's even more magic for the culture. That's
Speaker 6: the type of ship I'm on. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But Buz, let me ask you there.
Speaker 1: Give me your new give me your new NYC, your
Speaker 1: new New York mount Rushmore.
Speaker 6: You get four heads, bus get four? Put four on there.
Speaker 6: Who you got nas is number one? I got two spots.
Speaker 1: Last you got two spots, bus make it good, k
Speaker 1: r s one, Big Daddy came, You got l ll
Speaker 1: you got whole.
Speaker 2: You got to come on with it.
Speaker 7: Why is it only four man?
Speaker 1: Because that's all we got on my Rushmore. I give
Speaker 1: you five spots.
Speaker 2: Give you five? All right? Cool?
Speaker 7: Nos?
Speaker 1: No rock ken nas, Big Daddy came, Big Daddy came.
Speaker 1: That's three. You got, Biggie, you got you got?
Speaker 2: Do I include me? You can include you.
Speaker 6: The damn bust ROMs is on that motherfucker and the
Speaker 6: last one it's gonna have to be a toss.
Speaker 7: Up between hop and beg Okay, I like that get
Speaker 7: tossed up between open beg ward.
Speaker 4: You know what, I got one question before before you
Speaker 4: go all right?
Speaker 5: Can't the best advice you receive throughout your career, the
Speaker 5: best advice you received throughout your career, and who gave
Speaker 5: it to you?
Speaker 6: The best advice that I've received out of my entire
Speaker 6: career and my life for that matter, was that the
Speaker 6: Most High has blessed me with every single gift.
Speaker 7: Imaginable and unfathomable.
Speaker 6: And don't ever be selfish enough to sit your ass
Speaker 6: at home and wait for that same guard to come
Speaker 6: and give you food, because you already have every well,
Speaker 6: that's the gift that could be bestowed upon you, to
Speaker 6: go and get it for yourself and so many others.
Speaker 6: And once I realized that I was told, understand that
Speaker 6: power and it comes with great responsibility. Because you are
Speaker 6: made in the likeness of the Most High, which means
Speaker 6: you are almost like the most High. Go out there
Speaker 6: and show the people and show the world better than
Speaker 6: you could tell them that you are in the likeness
Speaker 6: of the Most High.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 6: And that came from a moms from a Christian perspective
Speaker 6: because she was seven Day Adventures christ She is seven
Speaker 6: Day Adventures Christian student. She's still here, rest in peace
Speaker 6: to my pops. But I also got that from this
Speaker 6: brother that was a part of the five.
Speaker 2: Percent nation of the Gods and Earths, and his name was.
Speaker 7: God Colle for Law.
Speaker 6: And when I was around twelve years old, I used
Speaker 6: to watch the Transformers on TV before I went to
Speaker 6: school in the morning, and I used to watch some
Speaker 6: Ultron and shit before I went to school in the morning.
Speaker 6: And these cartoons would come on like between seven the
Speaker 6: clock in the morning and eight o'clock.
Speaker 7: It's just like a half an hour each.
Speaker 6: So, like you know, when you're sitting in the crab
Speaker 6: and you're looking at the TV and you're seeing the Transformers,
Speaker 6: for example, and you see Megatron and he flying down
Speaker 6: from space and all these superpowers. This robot got an
Speaker 6: optimist prime and sound wave, the stars screen and all
Speaker 6: of them like, and then you're looking at these dudes
Speaker 6: with these names as these robots on TV and they
Speaker 6: super powerful and it's the Transformers. But then you leave
Speaker 6: out the crab and you go to the little store
Speaker 6: on the corner, and all of the corner stores in
Speaker 6: the hood was owned by like Spanish dudes. And we
Speaker 6: ain't know everybody naming in the deli, so everybody name
Speaker 6: was Pancho. So like, yo, your Pancho. It could be
Speaker 6: a female. We'd be like, excuse me, sweetheart, Pancho, could
Speaker 6: you get me some Charleston shoes? Cause you give me
Speaker 6: some fubble young candy or you know. So what would
Speaker 6: happen is the gods would be in front of the
Speaker 6: store early in the morning and they would be over
Speaker 6: there with names like Lord Victorious and Supreme Justice and
Speaker 6: Magnetic Divine and you know, these names reminded me of
Speaker 6: the transformers and shit. And then they was talking about
Speaker 6: how fast the sound traveling, how much the Earth's way,
Speaker 6: and and and what's the total square knowledge of the
Speaker 6: planet and the total square knowledge of land and water.
Speaker 6: I was looking at them like, y'all come from out
Speaker 6: of space, y'all talking about I took them about how
Speaker 6: much the earthway. They ain't teaching us in school. We're
Speaker 6: getting this shit from And they was called the god
Speaker 6: And this is where I was learning a lot of
Speaker 6: things from that nowhere else was teaching young black youth
Speaker 6: at the time about who you were as black people.
Speaker 6: And it was important to me that I latched onto
Speaker 6: this information because it felt like I was really being
Speaker 6: powered up like a pac Man video game when you
Speaker 6: eat the power pellet, because I had information that I
Speaker 6: was storing just from listening to these dudes talk that
Speaker 6: would take me to school or that I would go
Speaker 6: to school with. And I would start questioning teachers and
Speaker 6: the shit that they was, you know, whatever their curriculum
Speaker 6: was that they was teaching, and it didn't matter if
Speaker 6: there was social studies or science class or math, and
Speaker 6: I would really get into some shit like why you
Speaker 6: don't why you teach us the same shit about Frederick
Speaker 6: Douglass and Martin Luther King Malcolm X every month, Why
Speaker 6: you don't teach us about these brothers that I know
Speaker 6: about from the street corner, from these brothers that I'm
Speaker 6: building with or that I'm seeing building with each other,
Speaker 6: And why you always talk about, you know, things that
Speaker 6: it's like a repetitive thing, like it ain't even about
Speaker 6: the growth. It's almost like a force and a stagnation
Speaker 6: on us because it ain't you ain't teaching me shit
Speaker 6: that's really useful in anything in life, like.
Speaker 2: It would just trigue me.
Speaker 6: So I would question shit and it would seem like
Speaker 6: I was being the disruptive challenge school. Right, I was
Speaker 6: being disrespectful to the curriculum. When I was being told
Speaker 6: stop interrupting and stop asking questions. It just made me
Speaker 6: feel like, all right, this is really not a pro
Speaker 6: mea establishment. But you know, we're gonna still go and
Speaker 6: we're gonna do what we gotta do. But I'm gonna
Speaker 6: get this information and I'm apply it and I'm gonna
Speaker 6: share it through the other ways and the other abilities
Speaker 6: that I have, so from making music to making sure
Speaker 6: that I get to communicate with my peers and share
Speaker 6: the information when I see them, making sure that I'm
Speaker 6: able to give it to the generations after me. That's
Speaker 6: how I feel like I'm doing my duty and fulfilling
Speaker 6: my obligation with walking with my purpose in life.
Speaker 7: And I just feel like it's important to apply.
Speaker 6: That even outside of that level of information and science,
Speaker 6: when it just comes to common sense and right and wrong. Right,
Speaker 6: share that with people say they have the right perspective,
Speaker 6: because you know, thirty seconds of an impulsive emotional shit
Speaker 6: that you can't or that you're not controlling the right
Speaker 6: way at the time, because become a thirty year.
Speaker 2: Sentence in jail.
Speaker 6: So you know, as my brother Shabaz would always say,
Speaker 6: you know that thirty seconds of not controlling your emotion
Speaker 6: that can.
Speaker 2: Put you in jail for thirty years.
Speaker 6: Learn how to just master that, and a lot of
Speaker 6: times it just takes a good couple of conversations to
Speaker 6: change the whole dynamic of someone's perspective and way of thinks.
Speaker 1: Bus, we got we got to get you out of
Speaker 1: here on this one because we got someone else in
Speaker 1: the chat.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Go check out Bus.
Speaker 1: He's dropping his album eleven twenty nine, twenty four drav
Speaker 1: Faith Giving Dragons, Dragon Season Buss, we appreciate it. A
Speaker 1: TV film, music career. Continue success, my brother, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: Down the road.
Speaker 6: Thank you saying it. Lankey, Chad, salute sir Chad for real,
Speaker 6: send me that line. Let's get in the studio.
Speaker 1: Don't run for me now, sucker, Yeah, get him, I
Speaker 1: got you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. Love y'all.
Speaker 1: Guys, we got another guy in the chat right now.
Speaker 1: Is he ready to go? We got another guy in
Speaker 1: the chat.
Speaker 2: No, we were good. He say two seconds We're two
Speaker 2: seconds away.
Speaker 1: Guys. We really hope you guys enjoyed Buster Rhymes. Uh
Speaker 1: met bus on a couple occasions. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He is a man of his words. He he hey,
Speaker 1: just like you hear him talk. That's him, that's his voice.
Speaker 1: Uh hey. Uh not named Buster Rhymes. There was an
Speaker 1: actual guy named Busta Rhymes. He was a running back
Speaker 1: at the University of Oklahoma. I remember it.