1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:23,236 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Welcome back Car Show fans for a very special 2 00:00:23,276 --> 00:00:27,756 Speaker 1: season of the podcast people have called listenable and a 3 00:00:27,876 --> 00:00:36,236 Speaker 1: podcast about cars. We do love our fans here at 4 00:00:36,236 --> 00:00:39,756 Speaker 1: Car Show, which is why this short five episode run 5 00:00:39,996 --> 00:00:42,076 Speaker 1: will be devoted to picking a car of the year, 6 00:00:42,676 --> 00:00:47,436 Speaker 1: all geared toward helping you make a totally irrational purchase decision. Yep, 7 00:00:47,836 --> 00:00:50,716 Speaker 1: just like the big time car magazines and websites, we 8 00:00:50,756 --> 00:00:52,996 Speaker 1: will take the measure of all the great vehicles we've 9 00:00:53,076 --> 00:00:55,716 Speaker 1: driven in twenty twenty two and come up with a 10 00:00:55,756 --> 00:00:59,276 Speaker 1: winner no one's ever heard of. And just like the 11 00:00:59,316 --> 00:01:03,516 Speaker 1: big time sporting conferences, in each episode, these cars will 12 00:01:03,556 --> 00:01:09,436 Speaker 1: be subdivided into brackets sports cars, sports adds, electric vehicles, 13 00:01:09,596 --> 00:01:12,956 Speaker 1: and SUVs, where they'll face off to pass through to 14 00:01:12,996 --> 00:01:15,876 Speaker 1: the final round. The winning car of the Year will 15 00:01:15,916 --> 00:01:19,236 Speaker 1: be determined by the best science on the subject, which 16 00:01:19,316 --> 00:01:21,876 Speaker 1: is basically me talking to a bunch of other car 17 00:01:21,996 --> 00:01:26,316 Speaker 1: nerds to land on a favorite, and at the end 18 00:01:26,356 --> 00:01:28,916 Speaker 1: of each episode will take a drive in the winner. 19 00:01:29,436 --> 00:01:32,556 Speaker 1: Oh my God, and the ride is really good. It 20 00:01:32,676 --> 00:01:36,716 Speaker 1: sort of floats over the road. The listener that smokes, 21 00:01:37,836 --> 00:01:46,716 Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm your host, Eddie Alterman without further ado, 22 00:01:47,156 --> 00:01:50,116 Speaker 1: here's the sports cards bracket with my friend and Rodent 23 00:01:50,116 --> 00:01:55,076 Speaker 1: Track contributor Matt Farrah. Matt also hosts the wildly popular 24 00:01:55,276 --> 00:01:59,236 Speaker 1: Smoking Tire podcast Matt Farah, Thank you for being here. 25 00:01:59,436 --> 00:02:06,316 Speaker 1: Matt Farah invented automotive podcasting. I don't mind saying, but 26 00:02:06,396 --> 00:02:10,596 Speaker 1: I'll take it yet or popular or made it legit 27 00:02:10,796 --> 00:02:13,036 Speaker 1: or whatever allow us to do what we do here. 28 00:02:13,916 --> 00:02:16,516 Speaker 1: So thank you, my friend, and thank you Ed. I 29 00:02:16,556 --> 00:02:19,476 Speaker 1: thought you'd be the perfect person to get on here 30 00:02:19,796 --> 00:02:22,676 Speaker 1: to talk about sports cars and the most interesting sports 31 00:02:22,676 --> 00:02:26,156 Speaker 1: cars we drove this year. You come by it honestly. 32 00:02:27,116 --> 00:02:32,196 Speaker 1: You have a kuntash do so you know pain. You've 33 00:02:32,236 --> 00:02:36,876 Speaker 1: experienced pain and joy. And you have a Boxer Spider 34 00:02:36,996 --> 00:02:41,476 Speaker 1: sevent eighteen on its way, so you know what's up. 35 00:02:42,196 --> 00:02:44,996 Speaker 1: In our conversation, Matt and I throw out a bunch 36 00:02:44,996 --> 00:02:48,436 Speaker 1: of fancy terms and acronyms. Let me take a moment 37 00:02:48,436 --> 00:02:54,236 Speaker 1: to define them. The first is p Cody. That's p 38 00:02:54,716 --> 00:02:58,756 Speaker 1: c O t Y. This is an acronym for Rodent 39 00:02:58,796 --> 00:03:02,476 Speaker 1: Tracks Performance Car of the Year award, which recognizes the 40 00:03:02,636 --> 00:03:09,636 Speaker 1: finest weapons grade mega car every year. Naturally, aspirated refers 41 00:03:09,676 --> 00:03:12,316 Speaker 1: to an engine that breathes without the aid of a 42 00:03:12,356 --> 00:03:19,756 Speaker 1: supercharger or turbocharger. Enthusiasts generally prefer naturally aspirated engines because 43 00:03:19,796 --> 00:03:23,836 Speaker 1: they usually sound better, rev higher, and respond in a 44 00:03:23,876 --> 00:03:30,276 Speaker 1: more linear fashion. The tenth system, Matt says, one of 45 00:03:30,276 --> 00:03:34,836 Speaker 1: the cars is still fun at five tenths. Enthusiasts use 46 00:03:34,956 --> 00:03:38,196 Speaker 1: the tenth system to describe how hard they are driving 47 00:03:38,516 --> 00:03:42,556 Speaker 1: and how much of the car's capabilities they're using. Five 48 00:03:42,636 --> 00:03:45,836 Speaker 1: tenths means driving at about fifty percent of your or 49 00:03:45,876 --> 00:03:50,436 Speaker 1: the car's limits. Some cars even go to eleven. The 50 00:03:50,556 --> 00:03:56,596 Speaker 1: acronym SEMA stands for Specialty Equipment Market Association. They do 51 00:03:56,716 --> 00:03:59,956 Speaker 1: an annual car accessory show in Las Vegas, and it 52 00:04:00,076 --> 00:04:04,196 Speaker 1: could only happen there. Imagine a million square feet of 53 00:04:04,236 --> 00:04:10,156 Speaker 1: gigantic chrome wheels, sewer line exhaust pipes, and trippy custom cars, 54 00:04:10,196 --> 00:04:13,036 Speaker 1: and you're still a few acid tabs shy of reality. 55 00:04:15,036 --> 00:04:19,516 Speaker 1: Final drive ratio This refers to the last gear set 56 00:04:19,556 --> 00:04:23,356 Speaker 1: between the engine and the driven axle. This ratio represents 57 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:26,476 Speaker 1: how many times the transmission needs to turn the drive 58 00:04:26,556 --> 00:04:30,916 Speaker 1: shaft in order to rotate the tires once, so a 59 00:04:31,036 --> 00:04:34,916 Speaker 1: numerically higher final drive ratio means the final gear set 60 00:04:34,956 --> 00:04:38,156 Speaker 1: is spinning faster and delivering more torque to the wheels, 61 00:04:38,836 --> 00:04:41,276 Speaker 1: though not changing in the ultimate torque rating of the 62 00:04:41,316 --> 00:04:47,756 Speaker 1: engine itself. Did I just make that worse? Before we 63 00:04:47,796 --> 00:04:49,716 Speaker 1: get into the cars themselves, I want to talk about, 64 00:04:49,876 --> 00:04:53,396 Speaker 1: very briefly what a sports car should do. Do you 65 00:04:53,396 --> 00:04:55,356 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on the matter. You know, what I 66 00:04:55,436 --> 00:04:59,036 Speaker 1: really think a sports car should do is feed the 67 00:04:59,756 --> 00:05:05,516 Speaker 1: emotions of driving. You know, real sports car driving is 68 00:05:05,636 --> 00:05:11,676 Speaker 1: tapping into your bodies per set of sensations. And those 69 00:05:11,716 --> 00:05:15,316 Speaker 1: sensations can be in the form of how we feel 70 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:20,156 Speaker 1: g forces, whether that's acceleration and breaking or lateral g 71 00:05:20,396 --> 00:05:25,276 Speaker 1: forces that come with handling and grip, but also your site, 72 00:05:25,676 --> 00:05:29,156 Speaker 1: how the car not only looks when it's parked, but 73 00:05:29,236 --> 00:05:32,316 Speaker 1: how it looks from the driver's seat, out over through 74 00:05:32,356 --> 00:05:36,036 Speaker 1: the windshield and out over the hood. How it sounds 75 00:05:36,796 --> 00:05:41,196 Speaker 1: the engine sings, the intake noises, the mechanical noises, the 76 00:05:41,236 --> 00:05:46,276 Speaker 1: exhaust noises, and then also how it tingles you, you know, 77 00:05:46,356 --> 00:05:50,756 Speaker 1: the the actual frequency that the engine and the gear 78 00:05:50,876 --> 00:05:55,316 Speaker 1: train and whatever vibrates at, and the way that certain 79 00:05:55,436 --> 00:05:59,676 Speaker 1: cars send those vibrations through the seat and the wheel 80 00:05:59,716 --> 00:06:02,556 Speaker 1: and your hands, and it's it's a sort of a 81 00:06:02,636 --> 00:06:07,956 Speaker 1: harmonious balance of those factors that lead to a great 82 00:06:08,036 --> 00:06:12,956 Speaker 1: sports car, and it's very rare that a manufacturer gets 83 00:06:13,076 --> 00:06:17,076 Speaker 1: all of them right. But to me, it's about providing 84 00:06:17,156 --> 00:06:23,796 Speaker 1: a sensory experience that is overwhelmingly pleasant, enjoyable, and in 85 00:06:23,836 --> 00:06:26,756 Speaker 1: some ways addictive. Yeah, yeah, I think you did a 86 00:06:26,756 --> 00:06:31,916 Speaker 1: good Bill ni style job of explaining that. And you, yes, 87 00:06:32,036 --> 00:06:34,396 Speaker 1: and a great sports card needs to engage all the 88 00:06:34,476 --> 00:06:40,756 Speaker 1: senses and yes, trigger happy emotions and good and there's 89 00:06:40,796 --> 00:06:44,036 Speaker 1: plenty of cars that can engage one or two. I mean, 90 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:47,716 Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to g forces. I mean, there's 91 00:06:47,716 --> 00:06:50,836 Speaker 1: plenty of cars out there that go stop and turn, 92 00:06:51,556 --> 00:06:54,396 Speaker 1: you know, really well. And so we might say that 93 00:06:54,556 --> 00:06:59,116 Speaker 1: on paper objectively, and people like us for who work 94 00:06:59,196 --> 00:07:02,596 Speaker 1: for magazines are partially to blame for the focusing on 95 00:07:03,036 --> 00:07:08,796 Speaker 1: beyond paper statistics, because that's that's one way to show improvement, 96 00:07:09,116 --> 00:07:12,396 Speaker 1: an objective way, but it's certainly not everything, and it's 97 00:07:12,436 --> 00:07:15,236 Speaker 1: some of the reasons that, in my opinion, the best 98 00:07:15,316 --> 00:07:20,036 Speaker 1: sports cars aren't always the fastest cars. That's right. You know, 99 00:07:20,596 --> 00:07:23,156 Speaker 1: numbers are a great way of ordering the world, giving 100 00:07:23,156 --> 00:07:26,836 Speaker 1: you a sense of sort of concrete stability and an idea, 101 00:07:26,916 --> 00:07:31,996 Speaker 1: but it's not the same as feeling something. I don't 102 00:07:32,316 --> 00:07:35,676 Speaker 1: personally spend my own hard earned money, and I don't 103 00:07:35,756 --> 00:07:39,916 Speaker 1: encourage other people to spend their hard earned money on 104 00:07:40,596 --> 00:07:44,916 Speaker 1: the car with the fastest numbers. If you think about 105 00:07:44,916 --> 00:07:49,276 Speaker 1: how often that metric it really is useful, it's very 106 00:07:49,476 --> 00:07:53,596 Speaker 1: very rarely. It's like, yeah, it's like boasting about glove 107 00:07:53,716 --> 00:07:58,116 Speaker 1: box volume. Yeah, it's like it's it's somewhat equally irrelevant. 108 00:07:58,236 --> 00:08:00,636 Speaker 1: But I think a cool way of saying that is 109 00:08:00,716 --> 00:08:05,636 Speaker 1: that there's no story without the data, but the data 110 00:08:05,756 --> 00:08:08,956 Speaker 1: is also meaningless without a story. Sure, And I think 111 00:08:09,116 --> 00:08:12,956 Speaker 1: sports cars are kind of the pointy end of the 112 00:08:12,996 --> 00:08:17,396 Speaker 1: car business. It's where we see that dichotomy between numbers 113 00:08:17,436 --> 00:08:21,396 Speaker 1: and field most greatly, and so I think it's a 114 00:08:21,436 --> 00:08:23,676 Speaker 1: good place to get into it. And I think the 115 00:08:24,596 --> 00:08:26,876 Speaker 1: one we should start off with is sort of a 116 00:08:26,916 --> 00:08:36,636 Speaker 1: controversial car. It's the new Chevrolet Corvette ZEO six. The 117 00:08:36,796 --> 00:08:39,876 Speaker 1: all new Corvette zero six is based on the eighth 118 00:08:39,876 --> 00:08:45,916 Speaker 1: generation Corvette, aka the C eight. It starts at around 119 00:08:45,956 --> 00:08:48,956 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten thousand dollars and it's five point 120 00:08:48,996 --> 00:08:52,756 Speaker 1: five liter V eight engine makes six hundred and seventy horsepower. 121 00:08:56,596 --> 00:08:59,476 Speaker 1: What's controversial about it, Eddie, I'm just wondering what your 122 00:08:59,476 --> 00:09:03,076 Speaker 1: definition of controversial. It seems pretty awesome to me. You know, 123 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:05,436 Speaker 1: we're pretty spoiled over at road and tracks. So I 124 00:09:05,476 --> 00:09:08,996 Speaker 1: got to do probably thirty thirty five laps around Manicello 125 00:09:09,156 --> 00:09:11,956 Speaker 1: and then I got a couple of hours of road 126 00:09:11,996 --> 00:09:14,956 Speaker 1: time with it as well. I don't know, I don't 127 00:09:14,956 --> 00:09:16,476 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are like, oh, yeah, I 128 00:09:16,516 --> 00:09:20,956 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a punker job. Well, maybe controversial 129 00:09:20,996 --> 00:09:24,756 Speaker 1: is the wrong word, but I think that there are 130 00:09:25,836 --> 00:09:28,956 Speaker 1: some people who are upset that doesn't have a manual transmission. 131 00:09:28,996 --> 00:09:32,396 Speaker 1: Well yeah, there are some people who look at the 132 00:09:32,476 --> 00:09:35,156 Speaker 1: pricing and say, this thing can almost hit one hundred 133 00:09:35,156 --> 00:09:37,356 Speaker 1: and sixty grand. I think the one we drove at 134 00:09:37,356 --> 00:09:39,556 Speaker 1: pe Cody was over one hundred and sixty grand. I 135 00:09:39,596 --> 00:09:41,596 Speaker 1: think it was like one hundred and sixty six. Okay, 136 00:09:41,636 --> 00:09:43,956 Speaker 1: so it's it's a ton of a ton of money 137 00:09:43,996 --> 00:09:46,836 Speaker 1: for a Carvette that's always been sort of like the 138 00:09:47,756 --> 00:09:52,836 Speaker 1: budget supercar in a way and the world beater. But sure, 139 00:09:53,076 --> 00:09:56,676 Speaker 1: against all that, you have a vehicle in the C 140 00:09:56,876 --> 00:09:59,676 Speaker 1: a Corvette both in the base car, and in zero 141 00:09:59,796 --> 00:10:03,356 Speaker 1: six that is just one level higher than any Corvette 142 00:10:03,356 --> 00:10:05,676 Speaker 1: that's gone before it in terms of its ambition, in 143 00:10:05,796 --> 00:10:09,996 Speaker 1: terms of its capabilities, in terms of it's late Like 144 00:10:10,876 --> 00:10:14,516 Speaker 1: theight to me was such a brilliantly tuned vehicle because 145 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:18,196 Speaker 1: it was an everyday supercar, you know, it was a 146 00:10:18,196 --> 00:10:21,396 Speaker 1: managing car that sort of like a McLaren seven twenty s. 147 00:10:21,676 --> 00:10:24,716 Speaker 1: It was silky smooth, you know, in terms of its 148 00:10:24,716 --> 00:10:29,996 Speaker 1: power train, great transmission, great, great suspension. You could drive 149 00:10:30,036 --> 00:10:32,396 Speaker 1: it year round, put snow tires on it in a 150 00:10:32,476 --> 00:10:35,916 Speaker 1: Michigan winter and you're fine. And when you get to 151 00:10:35,996 --> 00:10:39,876 Speaker 1: the Zeo six, you're in another league entirely from past 152 00:10:39,956 --> 00:10:44,636 Speaker 1: Ceo sixes that were front engine. This car is really 153 00:10:44,676 --> 00:10:49,436 Speaker 1: really worked over. I mean from the suspension to the engine. Yeah, 154 00:10:49,476 --> 00:10:54,116 Speaker 1: I mean the zero six proves that with enough allocated 155 00:10:54,196 --> 00:11:00,036 Speaker 1: resources and dedicated smart people working on it, it is 156 00:11:00,196 --> 00:11:05,036 Speaker 1: possible to reverse engineer a Ferrari four five eight Special 157 00:11:05,636 --> 00:11:08,596 Speaker 1: and bring it to market in about six years. I mean, 158 00:11:08,596 --> 00:11:11,636 Speaker 1: I think that that's pretty much what they've proved here 159 00:11:11,676 --> 00:11:15,396 Speaker 1: with that engine, which has all the revs but also 160 00:11:15,516 --> 00:11:18,796 Speaker 1: doesn't give up on its torque and in general what 161 00:11:18,916 --> 00:11:23,316 Speaker 1: I think Corvette is always meant to do is democratize 162 00:11:23,596 --> 00:11:28,036 Speaker 1: what the high end European stuff is doing for approximately 163 00:11:28,076 --> 00:11:30,676 Speaker 1: a third of the price, and one hundred and sixty 164 00:11:30,676 --> 00:11:33,396 Speaker 1: thousand dollars is very expensive, and that's a pretty loaded 165 00:11:33,476 --> 00:11:35,236 Speaker 1: up zero six. You can get into one for about 166 00:11:35,276 --> 00:11:38,396 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five that'll have some decent options 167 00:11:38,436 --> 00:11:40,836 Speaker 1: on it. The one we drove at p Cody had 168 00:11:40,836 --> 00:11:44,436 Speaker 1: the zero seven package with the carbon fiber wheels and 169 00:11:44,636 --> 00:11:47,636 Speaker 1: so ours was about as expensive as it gets. But 170 00:11:48,316 --> 00:11:51,316 Speaker 1: you do the math, and although many people out there 171 00:11:51,396 --> 00:11:55,436 Speaker 1: might think of a Ferrari, Fa Tributeau or two nine 172 00:11:55,556 --> 00:11:57,916 Speaker 1: six is being a three hundred thousand dollar car, the 173 00:11:57,956 --> 00:12:00,876 Speaker 1: truth is it's a four hundred thousand dollar car. And 174 00:12:00,996 --> 00:12:05,076 Speaker 1: so the zero six does get you that level of performance, 175 00:12:05,636 --> 00:12:09,276 Speaker 1: and it approximates that amount of style. It doesn't it's 176 00:12:09,276 --> 00:12:12,596 Speaker 1: not quite as elegant as the Ferrari, but it's mid engine, 177 00:12:12,636 --> 00:12:15,996 Speaker 1: it is good looking, and it is usable. I mean, 178 00:12:16,156 --> 00:12:20,476 Speaker 1: there's very little about the zero six specifically that takes 179 00:12:20,516 --> 00:12:25,116 Speaker 1: away its everyday usability versus the base C eight on 180 00:12:25,196 --> 00:12:28,916 Speaker 1: the road. I mean they're doing something that the big 181 00:12:28,916 --> 00:12:32,796 Speaker 1: Italians and the Europeans really aren't doing anymore, which is 182 00:12:32,916 --> 00:12:39,236 Speaker 1: naturally aspirated rev happy V eights, which is a phenomenal achievement. 183 00:12:39,716 --> 00:12:42,476 Speaker 1: You know, we were with a GM engineer at the 184 00:12:42,516 --> 00:12:44,796 Speaker 1: track when we were doing our Pea Cody thing and 185 00:12:45,316 --> 00:12:47,796 Speaker 1: we heard this zero six fly by with one of 186 00:12:47,796 --> 00:12:51,156 Speaker 1: our editors driving it, and the guy from GM left 187 00:12:51,156 --> 00:12:53,516 Speaker 1: and he goes, can you believe Ferrari had this? And 188 00:12:53,516 --> 00:12:57,436 Speaker 1: when you know what, let's move by exactly. No. I mean, 189 00:12:57,476 --> 00:13:01,676 Speaker 1: that's that sensory experience of the zero six is extreme. 190 00:13:01,836 --> 00:13:04,396 Speaker 1: It's not that low burbling V eight you might expect. 191 00:13:04,476 --> 00:13:08,076 Speaker 1: It's that harsh bark of an exotic and that's to 192 00:13:08,156 --> 00:13:11,596 Speaker 1: me one of those elements that really separates it from 193 00:13:11,716 --> 00:13:14,516 Speaker 1: a run of the mill corvette. Sure, this is an 194 00:13:14,516 --> 00:13:18,956 Speaker 1: instance where going backward to a naturally aspirated, non turbocharge 195 00:13:18,996 --> 00:13:23,876 Speaker 1: flat plane crank VA really pays off. And I think 196 00:13:23,916 --> 00:13:27,996 Speaker 1: that their focus was absolutely dead on that. They picked 197 00:13:28,276 --> 00:13:30,316 Speaker 1: one of the best ferraris of all time, that four 198 00:13:30,396 --> 00:13:33,796 Speaker 1: or five eight specialty and really honed in on it. 199 00:13:33,836 --> 00:13:36,956 Speaker 1: But they also, to your point, they made it much 200 00:13:36,996 --> 00:13:41,596 Speaker 1: more livable, much more of a four seasons supercar, and 201 00:13:41,916 --> 00:13:44,676 Speaker 1: to sort of tie up the zero six in a 202 00:13:44,756 --> 00:13:46,876 Speaker 1: bow because we want to move on some other cars. 203 00:13:47,316 --> 00:13:50,996 Speaker 1: This is a car that I think nails a lot 204 00:13:51,036 --> 00:13:55,316 Speaker 1: of the sensory aspects. You know, it sounds incredible. The 205 00:13:55,356 --> 00:13:58,276 Speaker 1: front end bite on this car is insane, Like the 206 00:13:59,036 --> 00:14:02,076 Speaker 1: Sisteria response is amazing, and the thing just feels so 207 00:14:02,276 --> 00:14:04,876 Speaker 1: stout and you know, you feel like you could drive 208 00:14:04,916 --> 00:14:07,996 Speaker 1: it through a brick wall. Yeah, and the gearbox. You know, 209 00:14:08,116 --> 00:14:10,556 Speaker 1: there are people whom lane about the lack of a manual, 210 00:14:10,636 --> 00:14:13,436 Speaker 1: and I do understand. I like driving stick on my 211 00:14:13,516 --> 00:14:16,596 Speaker 1: fun cars, and I hear them. But the fact is 212 00:14:16,636 --> 00:14:19,756 Speaker 1: this car is so fast that you'd never be able 213 00:14:19,756 --> 00:14:22,396 Speaker 1: to keep up with it with a stick. It's it 214 00:14:22,476 --> 00:14:25,356 Speaker 1: grips so hard and it does what it does so 215 00:14:25,436 --> 00:14:27,516 Speaker 1: fast that you really need to have two hands on 216 00:14:27,556 --> 00:14:31,276 Speaker 1: the wheel to drive it quickly. And what it does 217 00:14:31,476 --> 00:14:36,276 Speaker 1: really well is despite its air quotes focus for track 218 00:14:36,316 --> 00:14:39,356 Speaker 1: and lap times, it is fun at five tenths. It 219 00:14:39,476 --> 00:14:42,636 Speaker 1: is a lovely car at five tenths. And you don't 220 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:46,716 Speaker 1: have to get the crazy zero seven package to enjoy 221 00:14:46,756 --> 00:14:48,676 Speaker 1: it on the road. You know, you put it in 222 00:14:48,796 --> 00:14:52,836 Speaker 1: drive and just regular automatic mode, and it is very 223 00:14:52,956 --> 00:14:57,156 Speaker 1: refined and very pleasant and they've done a phenomenal job 224 00:14:57,476 --> 00:15:00,036 Speaker 1: the body panels. You know, you parking next to a 225 00:15:00,116 --> 00:15:02,396 Speaker 1: Porsche and some of the panel gaps were a little 226 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:07,396 Speaker 1: yet wonky, but it's such a good performance value and 227 00:15:07,716 --> 00:15:11,596 Speaker 1: when you're driving it, um, it's clear where the resources 228 00:15:11,676 --> 00:15:15,116 Speaker 1: have been allocated. Yea. And the fact like that you 229 00:15:15,196 --> 00:15:16,956 Speaker 1: said that that this is a car that you can 230 00:15:17,036 --> 00:15:19,476 Speaker 1: drive at five tenths and really enjoy it and you 231 00:15:19,596 --> 00:15:21,836 Speaker 1: don't have to get to the limit with it, that 232 00:15:22,116 --> 00:15:24,396 Speaker 1: you know, puttering around at forty five miles an hour 233 00:15:24,876 --> 00:15:28,316 Speaker 1: or sixty miles an hour and just a winding road 234 00:15:28,796 --> 00:15:33,716 Speaker 1: still incredibly fun and incredibly responsive. It's it's an unbelievable achievement, 235 00:15:33,836 --> 00:15:36,556 Speaker 1: no question about it. Oh yeah, I mean if you 236 00:15:36,676 --> 00:15:39,276 Speaker 1: if you think, if you like the concept of it, 237 00:15:40,036 --> 00:15:44,076 Speaker 1: you'll like the execution. I don't know anybody who would 238 00:15:44,116 --> 00:15:47,516 Speaker 1: be is into the concept but not the execution of 239 00:15:47,556 --> 00:15:50,036 Speaker 1: this car. It's it's not going to disappoint anyone who's 240 00:15:50,036 --> 00:15:52,916 Speaker 1: got an order in keep your order. It'll it'll bowl 241 00:15:52,956 --> 00:15:57,836 Speaker 1: your mind, no question. When we come back more sports 242 00:15:57,876 --> 00:16:11,596 Speaker 1: cars with Matt Farrow. So let's move on to car 243 00:16:11,716 --> 00:16:15,116 Speaker 1: number two, which is not quite at the level of 244 00:16:15,156 --> 00:16:18,356 Speaker 1: the zero six Corvette, and that is the Nissan Z. 245 00:16:22,916 --> 00:16:26,596 Speaker 1: The Nissan z j Z, not two eighty Z or 246 00:16:26,636 --> 00:16:29,316 Speaker 1: three hundred ZX like back in the day, is a 247 00:16:29,396 --> 00:16:33,636 Speaker 1: relatively straightforward rear drive sports coup It has a four 248 00:16:33,756 --> 00:16:37,316 Speaker 1: hundred horsepower twin turbo V six and starts just north 249 00:16:37,396 --> 00:16:42,276 Speaker 1: of forty thousand dollars. So the Z is an evolved 250 00:16:42,396 --> 00:16:46,676 Speaker 1: version of the old three seventies Z. But this is 251 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:50,796 Speaker 1: not how which is an evolved version of fifties But 252 00:16:50,916 --> 00:16:53,076 Speaker 1: can I just say that this is not how evolution 253 00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:57,036 Speaker 1: is supposed to work. Evolution means that something is more 254 00:16:57,076 --> 00:17:00,996 Speaker 1: adapted to its moment than before. And I don't feel 255 00:17:00,996 --> 00:17:04,276 Speaker 1: like this Z is. I think it looks great, but 256 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:10,636 Speaker 1: it just feels coarse and rough and not fully realized, 257 00:17:10,716 --> 00:17:15,156 Speaker 1: not fully you know, sort of executed. And have you 258 00:17:15,196 --> 00:17:18,836 Speaker 1: spent a bunch of time in the thing decent? I 259 00:17:18,876 --> 00:17:20,876 Speaker 1: went on the launch, I drove it on the track 260 00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:23,116 Speaker 1: and I did you know, one hundred and fifty two 261 00:17:23,196 --> 00:17:26,636 Speaker 1: hundred road miles on it, and then drove it again 262 00:17:26,836 --> 00:17:29,876 Speaker 1: about a month later for a little bit. You know, 263 00:17:30,316 --> 00:17:34,716 Speaker 1: I hear you on your criticisms of it. On the 264 00:17:34,756 --> 00:17:38,796 Speaker 1: other hand, I think that we have a real problem, 265 00:17:38,836 --> 00:17:43,116 Speaker 1: not just in this country but globally of having so 266 00:17:43,156 --> 00:17:47,196 Speaker 1: many choices for the very rich. There have never been 267 00:17:47,236 --> 00:17:51,156 Speaker 1: more choices. If you want a seven figure car, you've 268 00:17:51,156 --> 00:17:54,996 Speaker 1: got like twenty different options to choose from. But if 269 00:17:54,996 --> 00:17:59,156 Speaker 1: you want a fifty or sixty thousand dollars great sports car, 270 00:17:59,276 --> 00:18:02,916 Speaker 1: you have fewer options than ever before. And that is 271 00:18:03,116 --> 00:18:06,876 Speaker 1: a real sad reality of not just our world for 272 00:18:06,956 --> 00:18:10,476 Speaker 1: the consumers out there, but someone who makes videos about 273 00:18:10,516 --> 00:18:13,716 Speaker 1: sports cars. It's really and man, I hear that, But 274 00:18:13,796 --> 00:18:16,196 Speaker 1: I don't think that this thing feels like it's worth 275 00:18:16,276 --> 00:18:20,996 Speaker 1: fifty grand. Yeah, it might not feel like a forty 276 00:18:21,076 --> 00:18:23,956 Speaker 1: or fifty thousand dollar car. And that's totally a valid 277 00:18:23,996 --> 00:18:28,396 Speaker 1: point because it is fairly basic. It has knobs, it 278 00:18:28,436 --> 00:18:32,836 Speaker 1: has you know, fairly it doesn't have some fancy schmancy 279 00:18:32,916 --> 00:18:34,716 Speaker 1: I mean, it does have a touchscreen, but it's not 280 00:18:34,796 --> 00:18:37,156 Speaker 1: like a great one. It's got the old seat adjuster 281 00:18:37,556 --> 00:18:40,396 Speaker 1: on the inside of that, the old school seat adjusters. 282 00:18:40,476 --> 00:18:43,956 Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I hear you. On the other hand, 283 00:18:44,476 --> 00:18:49,236 Speaker 1: it's reasonably quick. There is going to be a fantastic 284 00:18:49,356 --> 00:18:53,076 Speaker 1: aftermarket for it. The measuring session for Sema was like 285 00:18:53,476 --> 00:18:56,236 Speaker 1: so popular they had to extend it to a third day. 286 00:18:56,916 --> 00:18:59,796 Speaker 1: So I imagine this year's SEMA show will be packed 287 00:18:59,836 --> 00:19:03,716 Speaker 1: full of modified zs. There are a lot of people 288 00:19:03,756 --> 00:19:10,796 Speaker 1: who are looking for a relatively simple, tunable, um daily 289 00:19:10,956 --> 00:19:15,756 Speaker 1: drivable sports car option. And while Nissan has never made 290 00:19:15,756 --> 00:19:19,436 Speaker 1: the most refined engines other than the Skyline, the R 291 00:19:19,676 --> 00:19:22,796 Speaker 1: R series thirty two, thirty three four Skyline and that 292 00:19:22,916 --> 00:19:25,636 Speaker 1: one of the best engines of all time, but they're 293 00:19:25,716 --> 00:19:28,396 Speaker 1: V six is have never exactly been inspiring to me. 294 00:19:29,316 --> 00:19:34,596 Speaker 1: But in a world where the eighty six twins are 295 00:19:34,716 --> 00:19:38,516 Speaker 1: nice cars. But but what does a Subaru mean versus 296 00:19:38,316 --> 00:19:42,436 Speaker 1: a Toyota and the Supra and the Z four, they're 297 00:19:42,476 --> 00:19:45,676 Speaker 1: both nice cars, but the Toyota one is such a 298 00:19:45,756 --> 00:19:49,716 Speaker 1: BMW in every way that that matters. But it's so 299 00:19:50,876 --> 00:19:53,236 Speaker 1: but it's so good, it's like tune better. Yeah, no, 300 00:19:53,316 --> 00:19:55,556 Speaker 1: it is, it's it is, but and it's more expensive. 301 00:19:55,596 --> 00:19:59,236 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, spec for spec. It's probably ten 302 00:19:59,556 --> 00:20:02,836 Speaker 1: twelve percent more expensive than the Z. And so, to 303 00:20:02,916 --> 00:20:06,396 Speaker 1: go back to what I started this conversation with, what 304 00:20:06,516 --> 00:20:11,036 Speaker 1: I like about the new Z is that it is itself. 305 00:20:11,276 --> 00:20:14,676 Speaker 1: If you're buying a Z it's a z and it 306 00:20:14,716 --> 00:20:18,596 Speaker 1: has some interesting throwback details that are blended with modern 307 00:20:18,676 --> 00:20:21,996 Speaker 1: style in a way. I like it is usable every 308 00:20:22,076 --> 00:20:25,356 Speaker 1: day as an only car. It's gonna be tunable, and 309 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:29,556 Speaker 1: Nissan is friendly with the aftermarket like that, and it's 310 00:20:29,556 --> 00:20:32,716 Speaker 1: got its own character. Now whether or not you like 311 00:20:32,916 --> 00:20:37,076 Speaker 1: that character, well, that's up to you, fine. But having 312 00:20:37,116 --> 00:20:41,276 Speaker 1: met the people who build it at the launch and 313 00:20:41,356 --> 00:20:45,156 Speaker 1: talked about their passions for keeping it its own thing, 314 00:20:46,676 --> 00:20:49,236 Speaker 1: I really like that they've done that, and I think 315 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:53,476 Speaker 1: although it may not objectively lead to the best car possible, 316 00:20:53,716 --> 00:20:56,996 Speaker 1: you know, if they sourced to BMW in line six, 317 00:20:57,076 --> 00:21:00,476 Speaker 1: it might be a little less rough and gruff. And 318 00:21:00,916 --> 00:21:03,156 Speaker 1: there are some areas where the car can be a 319 00:21:03,156 --> 00:21:07,276 Speaker 1: little unrefined, that's for sure. But for the amount of 320 00:21:07,276 --> 00:21:11,956 Speaker 1: money you spend, it is fast. It is tossable and 321 00:21:12,196 --> 00:21:16,316 Speaker 1: small and doesn't look bloated, and it doesn't have a 322 00:21:16,316 --> 00:21:19,076 Speaker 1: bunch of crap piled into it, and you can turn 323 00:21:19,156 --> 00:21:22,916 Speaker 1: the traction control off with just one button. From my perspective, 324 00:21:22,956 --> 00:21:27,036 Speaker 1: it gets credit for it being itself and existing more 325 00:21:27,076 --> 00:21:30,956 Speaker 1: so than it gets credit on being better objectively than 326 00:21:31,076 --> 00:21:34,156 Speaker 1: some of its competitions. And I do agree with all that, 327 00:21:34,236 --> 00:21:35,836 Speaker 1: and I love the way it looks, and I think 328 00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:39,516 Speaker 1: it's a great sort of makes of retro and kind 329 00:21:39,556 --> 00:21:43,036 Speaker 1: of future styles and it's more than just sort of 330 00:21:43,076 --> 00:21:46,476 Speaker 1: applied styling cues. Right, No, it don't. It doesn't blow 331 00:21:46,516 --> 00:21:49,156 Speaker 1: my mind. Oh the platform goes back to two thousand 332 00:21:49,236 --> 00:21:53,436 Speaker 1: and three, It doesn't feel that old. They've done enough 333 00:21:53,516 --> 00:21:57,836 Speaker 1: to it to make it feel like a mostly new product. 334 00:21:58,676 --> 00:22:02,756 Speaker 1: It does have that turbocharged engine which does have a 335 00:22:02,796 --> 00:22:05,556 Speaker 1: pretty linear power band, and there will be options for 336 00:22:05,596 --> 00:22:08,916 Speaker 1: the aftermarket and from Nismo themselves. I hope it sounds 337 00:22:09,316 --> 00:22:12,316 Speaker 1: or with those aftermarket pieces, because it sounds like a pathfinder. 338 00:22:12,396 --> 00:22:15,036 Speaker 1: They had one. They had one at the launch with 339 00:22:15,116 --> 00:22:18,916 Speaker 1: a prototype Nismo exhaust on it, and it did sound 340 00:22:19,476 --> 00:22:23,076 Speaker 1: pretty pretty nice. I guess my issue with it is, 341 00:22:23,396 --> 00:22:25,996 Speaker 1: you know, a sports car needs to be about sensitivity. 342 00:22:26,156 --> 00:22:28,276 Speaker 1: You know, the car is sort of in conversation with 343 00:22:28,316 --> 00:22:31,876 Speaker 1: you sure, and that car to me was not. You know, 344 00:22:31,916 --> 00:22:34,116 Speaker 1: it felt a little cold, and then when you really 345 00:22:34,116 --> 00:22:36,716 Speaker 1: pushed it hard, I felt like the thing fell apart. 346 00:22:37,316 --> 00:22:40,916 Speaker 1: It does well, you know, that car is the same 347 00:22:40,956 --> 00:22:43,916 Speaker 1: as like a Mustang GT. You know, if you really 348 00:22:43,956 --> 00:22:45,956 Speaker 1: want it to be its best you kind of have 349 00:22:46,076 --> 00:22:50,036 Speaker 1: to finish it yourself. You're gonna have to tune it 350 00:22:50,076 --> 00:22:53,956 Speaker 1: with a maybe a slightly different tire and wheel set up. 351 00:22:54,116 --> 00:22:55,876 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have to do a little bit 352 00:22:56,196 --> 00:22:58,716 Speaker 1: because it's got to be everything to everybody, you know, 353 00:22:58,796 --> 00:23:01,716 Speaker 1: it's got to be the kind of thing that a 354 00:23:01,796 --> 00:23:04,796 Speaker 1: person who doesn't really care that much about cars but 355 00:23:04,996 --> 00:23:07,276 Speaker 1: likes how it looks is going to drive it in 356 00:23:07,356 --> 00:23:11,156 Speaker 1: the city and on bumpy roads and doesn't want it 357 00:23:11,196 --> 00:23:14,076 Speaker 1: to ride like crap. And then and and you need 358 00:23:14,116 --> 00:23:17,276 Speaker 1: that person just as much as the enthusiast to sell 359 00:23:17,356 --> 00:23:22,236 Speaker 1: cars to. And same thing with MUSTANGT. MUSTANGT is a 360 00:23:22,276 --> 00:23:24,876 Speaker 1: great package, but you wouldn't want to take one off 361 00:23:24,916 --> 00:23:27,596 Speaker 1: the showroom floor and start doing track days with it. 362 00:23:27,596 --> 00:23:30,076 Speaker 1: It would be a little sloppy, but it rides well 363 00:23:30,476 --> 00:23:33,076 Speaker 1: on bumpy roads. So if you really want to, you 364 00:23:33,116 --> 00:23:34,796 Speaker 1: don't even want to take it to a car's of 365 00:23:34,876 --> 00:23:37,996 Speaker 1: coffee now, But if you want to, if you want 366 00:23:38,036 --> 00:23:41,076 Speaker 1: to narrow the focus, the option is there for you 367 00:23:41,116 --> 00:23:44,036 Speaker 1: to do that in the in the aftermarket. And those 368 00:23:44,076 --> 00:23:46,956 Speaker 1: are the choices that they've made. These are good points. 369 00:23:46,996 --> 00:23:48,636 Speaker 1: I think you turned me around a little bit on 370 00:23:48,676 --> 00:23:50,836 Speaker 1: the sea. So let's move on to a car that 371 00:23:50,876 --> 00:23:55,356 Speaker 1: I feel is unexpectedly and fully resolved and just blew 372 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,996 Speaker 1: my mind when I drove it. And it was a 373 00:23:58,076 --> 00:24:05,276 Speaker 1: Toyota Corolla, specifically the GR Corolla in the Marizo Edition. 374 00:24:07,676 --> 00:24:11,836 Speaker 1: The GR stands for because Zoo Racing, which encompasses Toyota's 375 00:24:11,876 --> 00:24:15,836 Speaker 1: motorsports division and builds its hottest road cars like the Supra. 376 00:24:16,876 --> 00:24:20,836 Speaker 1: This special Corolla has a turbocharged one point six leader 377 00:24:21,116 --> 00:24:25,396 Speaker 1: three cylinder engine pumping out three hundred horses. It only 378 00:24:25,436 --> 00:24:27,756 Speaker 1: comes with a stick and all wheel drive, and the 379 00:24:27,836 --> 00:24:31,716 Speaker 1: extra special Marizo Edition climbs to north of fifty k. 380 00:24:35,116 --> 00:24:37,996 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what this thing is. The Toyota Corolla, 381 00:24:38,116 --> 00:24:41,796 Speaker 1: you know, is a rolling tab of ambient in base form. Right, 382 00:24:41,916 --> 00:24:44,916 Speaker 1: it is like the cure for Insombia, the most boring 383 00:24:45,036 --> 00:24:47,956 Speaker 1: car of all time. But you know what, credit to them. 384 00:24:48,036 --> 00:24:52,356 Speaker 1: It's not a bad car. The newest Corolla I've rented them. 385 00:24:53,116 --> 00:24:56,356 Speaker 1: I drove the press car, actually, the the regular car. 386 00:24:56,716 --> 00:24:59,916 Speaker 1: It's got great seats, it's built really well. I mean, 387 00:25:00,036 --> 00:25:03,836 Speaker 1: it's it's just if you said car, you know, it's 388 00:25:03,956 --> 00:25:07,436 Speaker 1: it's a great car. It's not a Toyota does they 389 00:25:07,476 --> 00:25:10,956 Speaker 1: do the best research of anybody. Okay, so they're gonna 390 00:25:11,036 --> 00:25:15,196 Speaker 1: get eights across the board, an engine, seating, comfort, trunk space, 391 00:25:15,596 --> 00:25:18,116 Speaker 1: but that results in a pretty bland car. You want 392 00:25:18,156 --> 00:25:21,636 Speaker 1: some ups and downs. The gr Corolla, on the other hand, 393 00:25:22,636 --> 00:25:25,756 Speaker 1: is all ups and downs, and it is just wildly 394 00:25:25,796 --> 00:25:29,836 Speaker 1: exciting and explosive. Yeah, it's a wild it's a wild package. 395 00:25:29,876 --> 00:25:31,876 Speaker 1: I drove it on the track before I drove it 396 00:25:31,916 --> 00:25:35,236 Speaker 1: on the street, so literally I sat in it and 397 00:25:35,876 --> 00:25:38,476 Speaker 1: straight out of pit road onto the track and within 398 00:25:38,556 --> 00:25:42,436 Speaker 1: two corners I went Bro. They're not messing around. It's 399 00:25:42,596 --> 00:25:49,156 Speaker 1: really designed to assault your senses, and you have to 400 00:25:49,236 --> 00:25:53,076 Speaker 1: drive it hard to really appreciate it. Especially the Marizo 401 00:25:53,276 --> 00:25:56,596 Speaker 1: edition is so stupid. I mean it's it's stupid in 402 00:25:56,636 --> 00:25:59,996 Speaker 1: the kind of way that people like us, the real nerds, 403 00:26:00,156 --> 00:26:02,956 Speaker 1: you know, appreciate. You know, Oh, let's take out the 404 00:26:03,076 --> 00:26:06,276 Speaker 1: rear window regulators and the rear speakers and the rear 405 00:26:06,316 --> 00:26:10,356 Speaker 1: wiper to save you know, three pounds, Like bro, Like, 406 00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:13,196 Speaker 1: come on, I know, and this is a car that 407 00:26:13,236 --> 00:26:14,996 Speaker 1: gets better than where you hammer on it, like it 408 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:19,196 Speaker 1: engine only really wakes up above three thousand rpm and like, 409 00:26:19,476 --> 00:26:22,676 Speaker 1: so this is just such a weird little car, a 410 00:26:22,836 --> 00:26:29,836 Speaker 1: turbo three cylinder that produces three hundred horsepower and it's 411 00:26:30,516 --> 00:26:33,676 Speaker 1: it sounds like nothing else. And you can adjust the 412 00:26:34,556 --> 00:26:38,876 Speaker 1: front rear traction bias through the car and it's pretty vivid. 413 00:26:38,956 --> 00:26:42,356 Speaker 1: You can tell the novel does things. It does work. Yeah, 414 00:26:42,396 --> 00:26:46,316 Speaker 1: And I got out of an RS three Audie and 415 00:26:46,516 --> 00:26:49,836 Speaker 1: into this car. Sounds like, oh my god, this thing 416 00:26:49,996 --> 00:26:53,356 Speaker 1: sounds so much better. It's so much more responsive to steering, 417 00:26:53,436 --> 00:26:56,996 Speaker 1: so much better than that really expensive Audie. And so 418 00:26:57,036 --> 00:26:58,956 Speaker 1: that's why I put it on this list. To me, 419 00:26:58,996 --> 00:27:01,676 Speaker 1: it's a sports car. It's a car that is really 420 00:27:02,236 --> 00:27:05,316 Speaker 1: driving a lot of those sensory inputs. Yeah, you know, 421 00:27:06,796 --> 00:27:08,996 Speaker 1: oh for sure. Well it's definitely a sports car. There's 422 00:27:09,036 --> 00:27:10,996 Speaker 1: no question about that. I mean, this thing is. This 423 00:27:11,036 --> 00:27:15,436 Speaker 1: thing is liquid hot fizz on the track. It is 424 00:27:15,516 --> 00:27:19,756 Speaker 1: really really fun. I mean to to just huck it 425 00:27:19,916 --> 00:27:22,996 Speaker 1: and smash the throttle, you know, and do a nice 426 00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:28,396 Speaker 1: big four wheel slide. It's very controllable at and beyond, 427 00:27:28,836 --> 00:27:34,756 Speaker 1: you know, the limit. So I haven't driven the regular one, 428 00:27:34,876 --> 00:27:37,236 Speaker 1: and I've been trying to get ahold of Toyota to 429 00:27:37,396 --> 00:27:39,996 Speaker 1: drive the base but variant because it's not just the 430 00:27:39,996 --> 00:27:43,516 Speaker 1: weight reduction with the Marizo. It also has the Marizo 431 00:27:43,556 --> 00:27:46,476 Speaker 1: has more torque. It also has different of different final drives, 432 00:27:46,476 --> 00:27:50,196 Speaker 1: so shorter gear ratios, which when you've got such a 433 00:27:50,276 --> 00:27:53,716 Speaker 1: peaky engine it does. That makes a big difference. And 434 00:27:53,756 --> 00:27:56,756 Speaker 1: they're only making two hundred of the Marizos. But other 435 00:27:56,796 --> 00:27:59,476 Speaker 1: than hardcore collectors, I don't know anybody that really wants 436 00:27:59,476 --> 00:28:03,756 Speaker 1: a fifty four thousand dollars hatchback with no back seat. 437 00:28:04,396 --> 00:28:11,636 Speaker 1: It's a little dumb, but it is incredibly engaging. The shifter, 438 00:28:11,876 --> 00:28:14,756 Speaker 1: the pedals, the wheel, the seats, I mean, all of 439 00:28:14,756 --> 00:28:18,516 Speaker 1: those inputs are as good as you'll find almost anywhere. 440 00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:23,116 Speaker 1: It's clearly a focused product. It's clearly the most exciting 441 00:28:23,236 --> 00:28:26,996 Speaker 1: car that Toyota has given us in quite some time, 442 00:28:27,796 --> 00:28:29,836 Speaker 1: and they just get all the credit for that. Having 443 00:28:29,916 --> 00:28:33,396 Speaker 1: said that, I drove it also on the street, and 444 00:28:33,636 --> 00:28:36,796 Speaker 1: when the road is less than perfect, it was quite 445 00:28:37,076 --> 00:28:40,676 Speaker 1: bouncy and it really beat me up a lot, and 446 00:28:40,716 --> 00:28:45,116 Speaker 1: I was really hoping the suspension would act a little 447 00:28:45,156 --> 00:28:49,236 Speaker 1: more like a rally car and a little less bouncy, 448 00:28:49,796 --> 00:28:52,596 Speaker 1: and maybe the regular one is different and a little 449 00:28:52,636 --> 00:28:54,676 Speaker 1: more compliant on the street, and that's why I'd like 450 00:28:54,756 --> 00:28:58,156 Speaker 1: to drive it because I felt the Marizo Edition was 451 00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:03,236 Speaker 1: so exceptional when the tarmac was very good, but really 452 00:29:03,556 --> 00:29:07,036 Speaker 1: really brutal when the tarmac was bad. And that's not 453 00:29:07,116 --> 00:29:10,476 Speaker 1: what I want out of a hatchback, even a very 454 00:29:10,636 --> 00:29:14,516 Speaker 1: well uh focused one. You know, yeah, I hear that, 455 00:29:14,596 --> 00:29:17,516 Speaker 1: right is so important no matter your age or body 456 00:29:17,516 --> 00:29:20,236 Speaker 1: mass index. I mean, look, the best, the best sports 457 00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:22,556 Speaker 1: cars I've ever driven in my life, right, great? You 458 00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:26,836 Speaker 1: know the McLaren seven twenty different various nine to elevens 459 00:29:26,876 --> 00:29:32,756 Speaker 1: and Cayman's Fosters and a Corvette. You know, even my 460 00:29:32,876 --> 00:29:39,156 Speaker 1: Lamborghini Kuntash have have beautiful, uh compliant rides. Lotus is Lotus, 461 00:29:39,356 --> 00:29:42,876 Speaker 1: the Lotus of Oora Masa GT. These cars are not harsh. 462 00:29:42,956 --> 00:29:45,996 Speaker 1: They have beautiful rides. And so if you've got a 463 00:29:46,116 --> 00:29:49,676 Speaker 1: really stiff ride, sometimes you're trying to cover up some 464 00:29:49,836 --> 00:29:54,476 Speaker 1: other poor handling trait and sometimes you're doing this sort 465 00:29:54,516 --> 00:29:59,236 Speaker 1: of motorsport theater thing where it's like regular folks that 466 00:29:59,436 --> 00:30:02,756 Speaker 1: aren't his fine tuned to their senses will do a 467 00:30:02,876 --> 00:30:05,436 Speaker 1: test drive for ten minutes and feel a stiff car. 468 00:30:05,596 --> 00:30:08,996 Speaker 1: Go it's stiff, it's sporty. You know, there's a macho 469 00:30:09,396 --> 00:30:12,436 Speaker 1: to that kind of yeah to that, like brutal sportedness 470 00:30:12,516 --> 00:30:14,796 Speaker 1: and like, oh yeah, it must be really really fast 471 00:30:14,876 --> 00:30:18,196 Speaker 1: and really like hardcore. But the gr Corolla to me 472 00:30:18,396 --> 00:30:21,796 Speaker 1: is like, you know, they're making up for their past transgressions, 473 00:30:21,876 --> 00:30:25,796 Speaker 1: their past camera transgressions. Totally. It's a special, special little car. 474 00:30:25,836 --> 00:30:28,596 Speaker 1: And to me, it's it's worth it's a Vivot experience. 475 00:30:28,716 --> 00:30:31,516 Speaker 1: It's worth the money. And those are those kinds of 476 00:30:31,636 --> 00:30:36,676 Speaker 1: Vivot experiences are like vanishingly rare nowadays. Yeah. Yeah, And 477 00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:39,556 Speaker 1: my hope is, and again I say it's without driving 478 00:30:39,636 --> 00:30:41,756 Speaker 1: the base one, but my hope is they will offer 479 00:30:42,636 --> 00:30:47,116 Speaker 1: the final drive, the lightweight wheels and the extra torque 480 00:30:47,716 --> 00:30:50,836 Speaker 1: on a variant that also has you know, a back 481 00:30:50,916 --> 00:30:55,036 Speaker 1: seat and a full radio and more suspension compliance exactly. 482 00:30:55,116 --> 00:30:57,476 Speaker 1: And they took away the rear wiper and oh, by 483 00:30:57,516 --> 00:30:59,756 Speaker 1: the way, I drove it in the rain for pe Cody, 484 00:31:00,076 --> 00:31:03,916 Speaker 1: the rear window is like covered in road Schmutz. And 485 00:31:04,036 --> 00:31:05,836 Speaker 1: I'm just going, yeah, you know what I'd like right 486 00:31:05,916 --> 00:31:10,836 Speaker 1: now in this hatchback is a rear ripe exactly. It 487 00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:15,116 Speaker 1: asks a lot of its driver, Yeah it does, but 488 00:31:15,276 --> 00:31:17,796 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a pretty badass little ride, 489 00:31:17,836 --> 00:31:20,996 Speaker 1: and Toyota gets points for building it as well as 490 00:31:21,076 --> 00:31:23,156 Speaker 1: they have. It shocked to me, it shocked all of us. 491 00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:27,116 Speaker 1: When we come back, Matt tells me about the one 492 00:31:27,196 --> 00:31:29,676 Speaker 1: car in this bracket that he spent his own money 493 00:31:29,716 --> 00:31:32,716 Speaker 1: to buy. I'm Eddie Altraman, and this is car show. 494 00:31:41,036 --> 00:31:45,156 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a car that I think is near 495 00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:48,036 Speaker 1: and dear to both of us, and Carlin does ride great, 496 00:31:48,796 --> 00:31:51,476 Speaker 1: still feels special, and to me, it's sort of the 497 00:31:51,636 --> 00:31:54,476 Speaker 1: acme of that thing you were talking about earlier, which 498 00:31:54,596 --> 00:32:01,916 Speaker 1: is harmonious feedback, kind of maxed out feel, a car 499 00:32:02,076 --> 00:32:05,996 Speaker 1: that feels like it's just been sanded down and honed 500 00:32:06,116 --> 00:32:08,876 Speaker 1: and honed and like worked and worked over until everything 501 00:32:08,996 --> 00:32:13,396 Speaker 1: was absolutely perfect, and the feel of the shifter matched 502 00:32:13,716 --> 00:32:19,596 Speaker 1: the responsiveness and action of the clutch pedal, and the 503 00:32:19,796 --> 00:32:25,076 Speaker 1: body movements matched the steering perfectly. At the transitional behavior 504 00:32:25,236 --> 00:32:28,076 Speaker 1: you know, was almost like a giant slile and skier. 505 00:32:28,196 --> 00:32:31,996 Speaker 1: This thing could change directions so expertly and just filled 506 00:32:32,036 --> 00:32:35,556 Speaker 1: you with joy. I'm talking about the Porsche sevent eighteen 507 00:32:39,796 --> 00:32:43,596 Speaker 1: now the Porsche seven eighteen, also known as the Boxer convertible, 508 00:32:43,636 --> 00:32:47,876 Speaker 1: and the Cayman Hardtop are not technically new, but they're 509 00:32:47,956 --> 00:32:49,996 Speaker 1: so good that I just had to put them on 510 00:32:50,076 --> 00:32:52,916 Speaker 1: this list of best cars I've driven this year because 511 00:32:52,996 --> 00:32:56,316 Speaker 1: they were I like mine with a four lead flat 512 00:32:56,356 --> 00:33:00,196 Speaker 1: six engine, which is available in Boxer Caman GTS and 513 00:33:00,316 --> 00:33:04,756 Speaker 1: higher trims. I do love these cars. I think they 514 00:33:04,796 --> 00:33:10,916 Speaker 1: are the best cars that Porsche makes. Great balance, great inputs, 515 00:33:11,516 --> 00:33:15,356 Speaker 1: great use of space. It's a very spacious car, but 516 00:33:15,476 --> 00:33:18,076 Speaker 1: it doesn't take up very much space on the road. 517 00:33:18,756 --> 00:33:21,716 Speaker 1: I liked it so much I bought one. I own 518 00:33:21,796 --> 00:33:25,596 Speaker 1: a Boxer Spider, but at the same time, with my 519 00:33:26,396 --> 00:33:30,716 Speaker 1: car is modified a little bit, is not exactly left alone. 520 00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:35,916 Speaker 1: But why did you decide to go that extra step 521 00:33:36,156 --> 00:33:38,276 Speaker 1: and modify the car? And tell me what you did 522 00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:41,196 Speaker 1: to it. Well, just because a car is one of 523 00:33:41,276 --> 00:33:44,876 Speaker 1: the best sports cars on the market, it doesn't necessarily 524 00:33:44,996 --> 00:33:50,236 Speaker 1: mean it's perfect. I feel, and I've said it very 525 00:33:50,356 --> 00:33:54,276 Speaker 1: consistently over the last five or six years that although 526 00:33:54,396 --> 00:33:57,516 Speaker 1: the Cayman GT four and Boxer Spider are the best 527 00:33:57,596 --> 00:34:00,556 Speaker 1: cars that Porscha makes, they don't make them as good 528 00:34:00,596 --> 00:34:03,556 Speaker 1: as they could. And they do it for a variety 529 00:34:03,596 --> 00:34:07,396 Speaker 1: of reasons. One is to keep people buying GT threes 530 00:34:08,116 --> 00:34:12,276 Speaker 1: say more about that, well, I call it the Cayman complex, 531 00:34:13,156 --> 00:34:18,756 Speaker 1: which is where any manufacturer holds back on one model 532 00:34:18,836 --> 00:34:23,156 Speaker 1: in order to maintain a hierarchy with a higher model. 533 00:34:23,876 --> 00:34:27,876 Speaker 1: And it's just my theory. Portia has never officially corroborated it, 534 00:34:28,476 --> 00:34:31,196 Speaker 1: but I felt like if they started putting nine to 535 00:34:31,196 --> 00:34:34,996 Speaker 1: eleven engines like the GT three engine into the Caymans 536 00:34:35,036 --> 00:34:39,756 Speaker 1: and Boxers, that they would significantly cut into the nine 537 00:34:39,756 --> 00:34:44,796 Speaker 1: to eleven sales because they're the power and the performance. 538 00:34:45,636 --> 00:34:49,876 Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I sort of take issue 539 00:34:49,916 --> 00:34:53,756 Speaker 1: with in that kind of scenario is that the nine 540 00:34:53,756 --> 00:34:57,836 Speaker 1: to eleven person doesn't want to be in a canon. 541 00:34:59,076 --> 00:35:04,396 Speaker 1: The Cayman person, I think, is a truer sports currenthusiast 542 00:35:04,556 --> 00:35:07,716 Speaker 1: than your average nine to eleven person. I think the 543 00:35:07,876 --> 00:35:11,276 Speaker 1: nine to eleven is more about show. Now it's gotten 544 00:35:11,316 --> 00:35:14,996 Speaker 1: so big, it's really a nine twenty eight with the 545 00:35:15,156 --> 00:35:18,796 Speaker 1: engine in the back, and I don't think it's quite 546 00:35:18,996 --> 00:35:23,356 Speaker 1: as I don't think it's the driver's car that the 547 00:35:23,516 --> 00:35:27,316 Speaker 1: Cayman is. And I think that a lot of the 548 00:35:27,916 --> 00:35:31,796 Speaker 1: sort of hardercore Porsche folks who who love the lighter 549 00:35:31,836 --> 00:35:36,596 Speaker 1: weight nine to elevens find themselves in the ismad engine 550 00:35:36,876 --> 00:35:41,756 Speaker 1: Cayan Boxers because it's not for them about display. It's 551 00:35:41,756 --> 00:35:46,796 Speaker 1: about what is the most satisfying, most feedback heavy sports 552 00:35:46,876 --> 00:35:49,076 Speaker 1: car I can get, And it ain't the nine to eleven. Now, 553 00:35:49,396 --> 00:35:52,076 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, look, I've driven, with 554 00:35:52,196 --> 00:35:55,196 Speaker 1: the exception of the new RS, I've driven every other 555 00:35:55,316 --> 00:35:57,156 Speaker 1: nine to eleven that's on the market right now, and 556 00:35:57,236 --> 00:35:59,876 Speaker 1: I have a lot of miles in them. And I 557 00:35:59,916 --> 00:36:02,116 Speaker 1: could have bought one of those. I mean, I could have, 558 00:36:02,276 --> 00:36:04,796 Speaker 1: but I but I bought the Boxer Spider because I 559 00:36:04,916 --> 00:36:07,396 Speaker 1: think that's the best car Porsche makes. I think it's 560 00:36:07,796 --> 00:36:11,396 Speaker 1: the right size for the roads. You know, our roads 561 00:36:11,436 --> 00:36:14,196 Speaker 1: haven't gotten bigger, the cars have gotten bigger. The roads 562 00:36:14,236 --> 00:36:17,356 Speaker 1: are the same size. And I think it has the 563 00:36:17,436 --> 00:36:21,276 Speaker 1: best balance on the street. I think it has a 564 00:36:21,476 --> 00:36:24,716 Speaker 1: great shifter. I think it has good room inside and 565 00:36:24,836 --> 00:36:30,716 Speaker 1: good practicality and is a great, great sensory experience, probably 566 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,436 Speaker 1: the best sensory experience that you can buy right now period. 567 00:36:36,796 --> 00:36:39,916 Speaker 1: I live in California. I love driving with the top down. 568 00:36:40,076 --> 00:36:44,836 Speaker 1: I love experiencing that the outdoors around me while while driving. 569 00:36:45,316 --> 00:36:47,996 Speaker 1: I think that's the best car. They make Why did 570 00:36:48,076 --> 00:36:52,076 Speaker 1: I modify mine? Because I can make it better. Every 571 00:36:52,156 --> 00:36:54,916 Speaker 1: time I've driven a Cayman g T four or a 572 00:36:54,996 --> 00:36:59,036 Speaker 1: Boxer Spider, I've said the same two things. The chassis 573 00:36:59,156 --> 00:37:01,996 Speaker 1: is perfect, the inputs are perfect, the breaks are perfect, 574 00:37:02,076 --> 00:37:06,316 Speaker 1: the steering is perfect. The size, shape, weight are perfect. 575 00:37:06,876 --> 00:37:11,156 Speaker 1: But it could be even better if it had a 576 00:37:11,276 --> 00:37:15,756 Speaker 1: bit shorter gear ratios. It's interesting that the car comes 577 00:37:15,796 --> 00:37:19,956 Speaker 1: from the factory with more chassis than engine, and that 578 00:37:20,276 --> 00:37:23,276 Speaker 1: leads me back to what I call the Cayman complex. 579 00:37:23,396 --> 00:37:27,196 Speaker 1: You know, Porsche can, and they now do. But they 580 00:37:27,316 --> 00:37:30,596 Speaker 1: could build faster versions of the Cayman and the Boxter, 581 00:37:31,076 --> 00:37:34,076 Speaker 1: they would still be drivable and usable as street cars. 582 00:37:34,716 --> 00:37:42,876 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's stack them up here. I think 583 00:37:42,996 --> 00:37:47,116 Speaker 1: of the four most interesting sports cars I drove this year, 584 00:37:47,236 --> 00:37:49,196 Speaker 1: we drove this year, I think the Z is the 585 00:37:49,316 --> 00:37:57,996 Speaker 1: least interesting. It gets points for being an affordable sports 586 00:37:58,076 --> 00:38:03,116 Speaker 1: car with a great aftermarket and a great platform to 587 00:38:03,396 --> 00:38:07,276 Speaker 1: to finish yourself and make a weekend canyon car track 588 00:38:07,396 --> 00:38:11,396 Speaker 1: toy daily usable a reasonable price, but it's in very 589 00:38:11,436 --> 00:38:15,476 Speaker 1: tough company here, very very good effort, but fell short. 590 00:38:15,956 --> 00:38:19,516 Speaker 1: I think my third pick. I hope you agree is 591 00:38:19,716 --> 00:38:25,716 Speaker 1: the GR Corolla for many of the same reasons, the 592 00:38:26,356 --> 00:38:31,036 Speaker 1: relative affordability of it, the kind of piquant nature of 593 00:38:31,116 --> 00:38:35,756 Speaker 1: the driving experience, and just how how real and how 594 00:38:35,916 --> 00:38:39,036 Speaker 1: alive that thing is and how much fun it is, 595 00:38:39,356 --> 00:38:43,036 Speaker 1: just like the sounds, the smells, the looks just awesome. 596 00:38:43,716 --> 00:38:48,116 Speaker 1: And then so you know, drum roll, I think the 597 00:38:48,276 --> 00:38:54,436 Speaker 1: runner up in this bracket is zero six. Would you 598 00:38:54,516 --> 00:38:58,636 Speaker 1: agree or would you not? Interesting? No, you know, actually 599 00:38:58,636 --> 00:39:01,276 Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you. I would put the zero 600 00:39:01,396 --> 00:39:04,716 Speaker 1: six on top and the GT four Boxer Spider under 601 00:39:04,836 --> 00:39:09,796 Speaker 1: underneath it, mainly because if the box Spider and the 602 00:39:09,876 --> 00:39:13,436 Speaker 1: GT four came out this year as new product, maybe 603 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,676 Speaker 1: it's just because I'm used to them. Maybe it's because 604 00:39:16,876 --> 00:39:19,556 Speaker 1: I don't see the Boxer Spider and GD four as 605 00:39:19,596 --> 00:39:25,156 Speaker 1: being brand new, revolutionary, game changing product right now. Yeah, 606 00:39:25,596 --> 00:39:28,636 Speaker 1: I'm just basically stuff I drove this year, though, okay, sure, 607 00:39:29,556 --> 00:39:32,516 Speaker 1: scientific well, we had you know, we had the g 608 00:39:32,676 --> 00:39:36,956 Speaker 1: T four RS at p Cody and and for me personally, 609 00:39:37,076 --> 00:39:39,516 Speaker 1: it was a tough a tough toss up between the 610 00:39:39,636 --> 00:39:45,316 Speaker 1: zero six and the four RS, especially on the t R. 611 00:39:45,436 --> 00:39:48,116 Speaker 1: The four RS was a little more expensive as as 612 00:39:48,196 --> 00:39:50,956 Speaker 1: equipped there are. I think the one we had was 613 00:39:50,996 --> 00:39:53,396 Speaker 1: one ninety, and they can get as high as like 614 00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:56,156 Speaker 1: two forty. I think, to go back to the point, 615 00:39:56,236 --> 00:40:00,276 Speaker 1: I think the zero six is such an engineering achievement 616 00:40:00,956 --> 00:40:08,796 Speaker 1: that has so few flaws, downsides, sacrifices, compromises. I don't 617 00:40:08,836 --> 00:40:12,836 Speaker 1: think there's anything on the zero six that they didn't 618 00:40:12,876 --> 00:40:17,276 Speaker 1: make as good as they possibly could. They've done a 619 00:40:17,356 --> 00:40:19,636 Speaker 1: really good job of the interior. I still am not 620 00:40:19,796 --> 00:40:22,756 Speaker 1: sold on the square steering wheel, but the fit and 621 00:40:22,876 --> 00:40:26,516 Speaker 1: finish of the interior, the metal, the leather, the seats 622 00:40:26,996 --> 00:40:31,716 Speaker 1: I thought was exceptionally well put together on our test car. Okay, 623 00:40:31,796 --> 00:40:36,916 Speaker 1: so what we're talking about. It's a difference in you know, 624 00:40:38,276 --> 00:40:42,356 Speaker 1: hundreds or thousands, you know, at the sort of ragged 625 00:40:42,516 --> 00:40:46,476 Speaker 1: edge of performance. And yes, yeah, I can see, like 626 00:40:48,236 --> 00:40:51,916 Speaker 1: the zero six, this is a much greater achievement, without question, 627 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:56,356 Speaker 1: much more important car. You know. They they created something 628 00:40:56,436 --> 00:41:00,396 Speaker 1: that's probably better than a Ferrari. It's more fun than 629 00:41:00,516 --> 00:41:05,716 Speaker 1: the last two generations of Ferrari's mid engine project. It's 630 00:41:05,716 --> 00:41:08,636 Speaker 1: got a better interior, it doesn't have all the cheap 631 00:41:08,676 --> 00:41:11,076 Speaker 1: shit they you get it, it actually does. The current 632 00:41:11,196 --> 00:41:14,756 Speaker 1: Ferraris are not the I mean, twelve is pretty good, 633 00:41:15,076 --> 00:41:17,596 Speaker 1: the roma is pretty good, but the F eight was 634 00:41:17,756 --> 00:41:20,396 Speaker 1: not not great. And so if you look at this 635 00:41:20,476 --> 00:41:23,756 Speaker 1: sort of arc of corvats going from these sort of 636 00:41:23,996 --> 00:41:26,556 Speaker 1: you know, the blue Flame six and the fifties, so 637 00:41:26,676 --> 00:41:31,556 Speaker 1: these lightly engineered you know, sort of C three's and 638 00:41:31,916 --> 00:41:35,636 Speaker 1: always sort of in the shadow of European performance. Now 639 00:41:35,716 --> 00:41:39,556 Speaker 1: with the mid engine car like the Zero six, it 640 00:41:39,876 --> 00:41:43,636 Speaker 1: is fully at the level of a Ferrari, a Lamborkini. 641 00:41:43,836 --> 00:41:48,436 Speaker 1: There's no there's no excuses to be made, no apologies. 642 00:41:48,956 --> 00:41:52,236 Speaker 1: It is absolutely there for a third of the price, 643 00:41:52,436 --> 00:41:57,996 Speaker 1: and holy shit, like yeah, okay, okay, in a lot 644 00:41:58,076 --> 00:42:00,276 Speaker 1: of the ways, it absolutely is. I mean the only 645 00:42:00,396 --> 00:42:03,676 Speaker 1: thing that still lacks is like body panel fit and finish. 646 00:42:03,756 --> 00:42:07,196 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really the one thing that fiber guys, Yeah, 647 00:42:07,236 --> 00:42:10,156 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the one thing they've never really managed 648 00:42:10,356 --> 00:42:14,796 Speaker 1: to quite get all the way there with and and 649 00:42:15,236 --> 00:42:18,876 Speaker 1: and and that's the difference. You know. It's like here 650 00:42:18,916 --> 00:42:20,716 Speaker 1: I am on a show with you saying that the 651 00:42:20,916 --> 00:42:24,196 Speaker 1: most exciting car I drove, the sports car drove this 652 00:42:24,276 --> 00:42:27,036 Speaker 1: year was the Zero six, And meanwhile, the one I 653 00:42:27,156 --> 00:42:30,516 Speaker 1: spent six figures on to take home and keep for 654 00:42:30,596 --> 00:42:33,556 Speaker 1: the next twenty years, you know, is the Porsche. And 655 00:42:34,396 --> 00:42:37,356 Speaker 1: part of that is because in my own life versus 656 00:42:37,476 --> 00:42:40,796 Speaker 1: in the service to our viewers and our readers, I 657 00:42:40,996 --> 00:42:44,036 Speaker 1: want to drive stick, I want to take the top down, 658 00:42:44,596 --> 00:42:49,316 Speaker 1: I want that precise level of quality and attention to 659 00:42:49,516 --> 00:42:56,476 Speaker 1: detail at every level. Yeah. So it is an astonishing achievement. 660 00:42:56,676 --> 00:42:59,116 Speaker 1: And I think what it comes down to in your 661 00:42:59,236 --> 00:43:03,756 Speaker 1: choice of the Boster Spider versus a zero six, which 662 00:43:03,836 --> 00:43:07,556 Speaker 1: are to most people's thinking, different levels of cars. In 663 00:43:07,636 --> 00:43:11,516 Speaker 1: a way, I think it comes down to do you 664 00:43:11,636 --> 00:43:13,916 Speaker 1: like Porsche's Are you a Porsche guy or are you 665 00:43:13,996 --> 00:43:18,476 Speaker 1: a Corvette guy? Because hey man, these are avatars for 666 00:43:18,556 --> 00:43:21,716 Speaker 1: who we are. They reflect who what we want to 667 00:43:21,756 --> 00:43:24,156 Speaker 1: say to the world. And if you don't want to 668 00:43:24,236 --> 00:43:28,956 Speaker 1: say you're a Zeo six wide body Corvette person and 669 00:43:29,116 --> 00:43:30,676 Speaker 1: you want to say, hey, you know what, I have 670 00:43:30,756 --> 00:43:34,556 Speaker 1: a much more measured approach to automotive performance and the 671 00:43:34,676 --> 00:43:38,196 Speaker 1: stuff that you can't see is sort of what's important 672 00:43:38,196 --> 00:43:41,036 Speaker 1: to me on the inside, then then your boxer person 673 00:43:41,116 --> 00:43:43,636 Speaker 1: I happen to align with that way of thinking, and 674 00:43:43,836 --> 00:43:46,796 Speaker 1: that's why I had seven eighteen as my top pick. 675 00:43:46,956 --> 00:43:51,796 Speaker 1: But considering everything you're saying, considering the breakthroughs that they've 676 00:43:51,836 --> 00:43:55,276 Speaker 1: made in every area in Corvette and going from a 677 00:43:55,396 --> 00:43:59,836 Speaker 1: Corvette that was, you know, really impressive, like a zero 678 00:43:59,916 --> 00:44:03,076 Speaker 1: six that was really impressive for a front engine car, 679 00:44:03,716 --> 00:44:08,756 Speaker 1: to a no excuses, Oh my god, absolutely at par 680 00:44:09,236 --> 00:44:15,316 Speaker 1: or over and above the Italian exotics. Yeah, okay, let's 681 00:44:15,316 --> 00:44:26,116 Speaker 1: give it to the zero six. Beautiful car. It's phenomenally 682 00:44:26,156 --> 00:44:28,396 Speaker 1: done and it's not like you're gonna go wrong with either. 683 00:44:28,436 --> 00:44:30,556 Speaker 1: And I'm, by the way, the car I've kept the 684 00:44:30,676 --> 00:44:32,596 Speaker 1: longest in my whole life. I had a C five 685 00:44:32,676 --> 00:44:35,076 Speaker 1: Corvette that I bought new in nineteen ninety eight and 686 00:44:35,156 --> 00:44:37,116 Speaker 1: I sold it in twenty sixteen, and I had it 687 00:44:37,196 --> 00:44:40,716 Speaker 1: for eighteen years, and I and I was a Corvette 688 00:44:40,756 --> 00:44:45,116 Speaker 1: guy and I became a Porsche guy. And the zero 689 00:44:45,196 --> 00:44:47,276 Speaker 1: six is the kind of car that might one day 690 00:44:47,356 --> 00:44:49,316 Speaker 1: bring me back to being a Corvette guy. And I 691 00:44:49,396 --> 00:44:51,316 Speaker 1: think they're going to get a lot of what they 692 00:44:51,396 --> 00:44:55,596 Speaker 1: call conquest sales, where there's people that don't necessarily see 693 00:44:55,676 --> 00:44:59,356 Speaker 1: themselves as Corvette people, but this is a different product 694 00:44:59,436 --> 00:45:01,796 Speaker 1: and it might it might bring some of those folks back, 695 00:45:01,876 --> 00:45:05,796 Speaker 1: and so, um, you know, kudos to them. Yeah, great, 696 00:45:05,876 --> 00:45:10,196 Speaker 1: job GM. Having crowned a winner of round one, I'm 697 00:45:10,236 --> 00:45:12,396 Speaker 1: off to take a drive in the twenty twenty three 698 00:45:12,716 --> 00:45:19,676 Speaker 1: Corvette zero six. All right, I'm starting up the Corvette 699 00:45:19,916 --> 00:45:36,156 Speaker 1: zero six sufficiently loud, that's from the driver's seat. But 700 00:45:36,756 --> 00:45:43,516 Speaker 1: let me close the door here much quieter. But when 701 00:45:43,556 --> 00:45:47,916 Speaker 1: it idles down and warms up a little bit, I 702 00:45:48,116 --> 00:46:10,796 Speaker 1: will goose the throttle. Let you hear that mean. So 703 00:46:10,916 --> 00:46:12,676 Speaker 1: when you sit in this thing, you're sort of packed 704 00:46:12,716 --> 00:46:15,116 Speaker 1: into the front of the car, you know, with your 705 00:46:15,236 --> 00:46:20,756 Speaker 1: feet pretty close to the front wheels, the engine and 706 00:46:20,796 --> 00:46:25,796 Speaker 1: transmission behind you. It's got these big strikes down the side, 707 00:46:26,396 --> 00:46:29,796 Speaker 1: big openings in the side to give air to the engine. 708 00:46:30,716 --> 00:46:36,436 Speaker 1: And it's pretty badass looking. This one's brown, which I 709 00:46:36,596 --> 00:46:39,476 Speaker 1: kind of like. It's sort of stealthy. It's also a 710 00:46:39,596 --> 00:46:43,476 Speaker 1: convertible version. In front of me is a squarish sort 711 00:46:43,476 --> 00:46:46,676 Speaker 1: of steering wheel. It says zero six and the number 712 00:46:46,756 --> 00:46:48,796 Speaker 1: plate on the bottom of the wheel in the six 713 00:46:48,876 --> 00:46:56,556 Speaker 1: o'clock position. All right, tons of engine presence in this 714 00:46:56,796 --> 00:47:03,316 Speaker 1: thing from the get go. It's just very very aggressive sounding. 715 00:47:04,116 --> 00:47:08,236 Speaker 1: The base Corvette is a lot mellower and it's much 716 00:47:08,316 --> 00:47:13,796 Speaker 1: more sort of every day supercar. This thing feels and 717 00:47:14,036 --> 00:47:19,516 Speaker 1: sounds a lot more exotic. The steering is really responsive. 718 00:47:20,316 --> 00:47:24,196 Speaker 1: It's not jittery, but it's responsive. You know. It's interesting 719 00:47:24,716 --> 00:47:28,636 Speaker 1: that this car has six hundred and seventy horsepower. That's 720 00:47:28,676 --> 00:47:33,036 Speaker 1: the exact number that the NASCAR racing stockers make, and 721 00:47:33,756 --> 00:47:37,556 Speaker 1: I think that's intentional. This five point five leader V 722 00:47:37,676 --> 00:47:43,756 Speaker 1: eight makes that number as a sort of nod to 723 00:47:43,996 --> 00:47:48,316 Speaker 1: its competition aspirations. Ultimately, this is a car for the track, 724 00:47:48,716 --> 00:47:51,916 Speaker 1: as good as it is on the street, with its 725 00:47:52,076 --> 00:47:55,996 Speaker 1: flat cornering and its insane grip and the power everywhere. 726 00:47:56,356 --> 00:47:59,836 Speaker 1: This is a car that can only really appreciate its 727 00:47:59,916 --> 00:48:04,556 Speaker 1: full capabilities on a race track. It's just it's staggering 728 00:48:04,636 --> 00:48:08,356 Speaker 1: that it can be so civilized and do the things 729 00:48:08,396 --> 00:48:16,076 Speaker 1: that it can do on a road circuit. I just 730 00:48:16,276 --> 00:48:21,076 Speaker 1: loves to run. It's amazing, Oh my god. And the 731 00:48:21,236 --> 00:48:23,596 Speaker 1: ride is really good. It sort of floats over the road, 732 00:48:23,956 --> 00:48:29,436 Speaker 1: but listen to that whole smokes my goodness. And the 733 00:48:29,596 --> 00:48:34,996 Speaker 1: shifting is very smooth. I mean, you could drive this 734 00:48:35,076 --> 00:48:38,596 Speaker 1: thing every day. It's it's not too darty. It's not 735 00:48:38,836 --> 00:48:42,356 Speaker 1: going for you know, the crown in the road. It's 736 00:48:42,396 --> 00:48:48,516 Speaker 1: not it's not busy under your hands or under your feet. 737 00:48:48,636 --> 00:48:52,196 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, you feel like you're using maybe 738 00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:56,916 Speaker 1: one twentieth of its capability, even when you're exceeding the 739 00:48:57,036 --> 00:49:01,996 Speaker 1: speed limit by a gross amountain. But man, it's good. Yeah. 740 00:49:02,076 --> 00:49:06,636 Speaker 1: I could drive this thing every day. All right, here 741 00:49:06,676 --> 00:49:15,396 Speaker 1: we go. Oh my god. Just loves to step out. Yeah, 742 00:49:15,756 --> 00:49:19,556 Speaker 1: it always wants to step out sideways. The traction control 743 00:49:21,436 --> 00:49:25,436 Speaker 1: and feathering of the throttle helped keep it in line. 744 00:49:25,476 --> 00:49:29,396 Speaker 1: But listen to that. It's just so wild. So Untamed. 745 00:49:40,516 --> 00:49:43,556 Speaker 1: Car Show is written and hosted by me Eddie Alterman. 746 00:49:44,236 --> 00:49:48,236 Speaker 1: It's produced by Emily Rosstad and Jacob Smith. Our editor 747 00:49:48,396 --> 00:49:52,996 Speaker 1: is Karen Shakergee. Original music and mastering by Ben Holliday. 748 00:49:53,716 --> 00:49:57,636 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Mia Loebell. 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