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Speaker 1: notund a good Yeah, rock lives. All right, pull question mcloven.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna stay with what we had in the first hour.

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Speaker 1: I actually haven't put one up yet because I would

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Speaker 1: need your guy's input. Two questions I have. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a better rookie season? Mac Jones or Trevor Lawrence? Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year odds list Trevor Lawrence number one,

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones number two. Now, what does it mean to

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Speaker 1: have a better season. That's a good questions, not wins

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Speaker 1: in losses, but overall production. Who has the most touchdowns?

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Speaker 1: How about that? Well? Mac Jones could have a he

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Speaker 1: should have a better record, but he probably won't be

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Speaker 1: asked to do as much as Trevor Lawrence is going

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Speaker 1: to be asked to do. Trevor Lawrence could end up

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Speaker 1: with twenty eight touchdown passes and they win five games.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones could throw for twenty five touchdowns and they

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Speaker 1: win ten or eleven games. Who had a better season?

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is going to be asked to do an

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Speaker 1: awful lot with the Jets. How many wins are they

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Speaker 1: going to have? I think we can look at the

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Speaker 1: stats and think Matthew Stafford had a great year every year,

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Speaker 1: he'd always have big numbers. They didn't win, and when

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Speaker 1: you're losing, you're going to be throwing even more. Does

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields get a chance? When does he get a chance?

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Speaker 1: But I'm guessing Mac Jones has a chance to have

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Speaker 1: a better season because his team is better. Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: is behind a spotty offensive line. You got a rookie

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Speaker 1: head coach and you're being asked to make some magic

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Speaker 1: here and you've already lost Travis at ten for the season. Yeah, mclub,

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Speaker 1: So I guess the question who wins Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Then if they're one and two and Zach Wilson probably

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Speaker 1: round third, I would imagine what if I give you

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Speaker 1: you can have Trevor Lawrence of the field for Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Does anybody want the field? Mclovin does,

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Speaker 1: Fritzie does, Okay, Seaton does, Pauly Ester don't running backs

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Speaker 1: usually have a good shot because a feature back like

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Speaker 1: a Sequan who's the nause Harris? Yeah? But the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: What if I gave you Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence or

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Speaker 1: the field? Anybody interested in the field? Seaton's interested in

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Speaker 1: the field. Mclovin is interested in the field. Fritzie not

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Speaker 1: as mom riding with Trevor. If you throw Mack in there,

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Speaker 1: that's a different ballgame for me. Oh okay, I'll take

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Speaker 1: Trevor and Mac. Does anybody want a piece of that

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Speaker 1: pie of the face Rookie of the Year? Seaton does? So?

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Speaker 1: Seaton against the back row? Wait, I'm with Seaton? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Anders with me? So left side versus right side? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: left side versus right side, okay, so right, my right

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Speaker 1: side and my left side, right right, okay. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's mclovin and Seaton versus Paulli and Fritzie. You guys

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Speaker 1: got the field. They have Mac Jones and Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: for a pie, fair enough, don't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Paul ever agreed to that. Definitely did. Yeah, I'll just

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Speaker 1: throw them. You'll throw the pines. Yeah, well, are you

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Speaker 1: gonna throw a pie? You're so? Are you involved in this? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So it's just Todd okay. Uh, And it'll be a

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Speaker 1: pie from each of these guys, and then if you win, Todd,

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Speaker 1: then you get two pies to hit these guys. Sounds good,

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Speaker 1: all right, Yes, lub, I'm looking at the lists of

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Speaker 1: rookies of the year, and there aren't a lot of

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Speaker 1: number one overalls like Kyler Murray one in nineteen Okay,

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Speaker 1: but the bed is already firmly cemented here, like you

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Speaker 1: can't wiggle out. No. My point is Trevor does not

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Speaker 1: have a great chance. No, I'm saying to Todd, who's

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Speaker 1: the most conservative guy that I've ever known, would try

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Speaker 1: to wiggle out of it. I've already agreed to it back.

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Speaker 1: thing with the two tires, the spins and spits out footballs.

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Speaker 1: What's that called the jug jugs gun? I think I

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Speaker 1: thought JUG's gun was to do like radar on the

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Speaker 1: on the pitch um. Anyway, that thing with the two

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Speaker 1: have that fire out? That sounds like good TV. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe it's like a gigantic cupcake or something that you

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Speaker 1: What about those those guns that they shoot t shirts

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Speaker 1: into the crowd. Yeah, like a potato gun. Remember the

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Speaker 1: potato gun you can make? Can you press the button

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Speaker 1: in it? But but we get cupcakes, we stuffed full

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Speaker 1: of cupcakes. Great, I love it. This sounds like fun. Yeah. Point,

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Speaker 1: I want to tell Seaton he's right, the jugs gun

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Speaker 1: is also a football thrower. By the way, I typed

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Speaker 1: in Jugs and hit searchs and it was a whole

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Speaker 1: different thing. But the Jugs sports dot Com makes the

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Speaker 1: football thrower. They called the football throwing machine. Football throwing

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Speaker 1: machine by the Jugs people. Oh but Jugs makes those,

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Speaker 1: that's great. And radar guns, yeah, they do it all.

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Speaker 1: When the Patriots and Dolphins face off in Week one,

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Speaker 1: two former Alabama quarterbacks to a tong of Ioloa and

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones will face off. Jalen Hurts who was in

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Speaker 1: the same quarterbacking room and Tuscaloosa starts in phillip Alpia.

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Speaker 1: That's surprising because you don't think of Alabama as quarterback

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Speaker 1: you but certainly during the Nick Saban era. But Saban

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Speaker 1: he brought in Lane Kiffin. He knew, hey, I can

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Speaker 1: run the ball and have great defense. I got to

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Speaker 1: get caught up to speed with everybody else with offense.

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Speaker 1: And then those recruits showed up. As Lane Kiffin said, now,

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Speaker 1: it's not fair because it used to be you could

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback or a wide receiver, couldn't get a

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Speaker 1: running back or good defensive players if you were recruiting

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Speaker 1: against Nick. Now, Nick goes in and goes yea. Now

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Speaker 1: take that quarterback, take that wide receiver. Super Bowl winning quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Alabama's actually tied with oh Man. You wouldn't get this one,

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Speaker 1: Perdue for having the most super Bowl winning quarterbacks. Alabama's

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Speaker 1: got Joe Namath, Bart Starr, and Kenny Stabler. Perdue has three.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get one. I don't know if you would

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Speaker 1: get the other two. Breeze went to Purdue, the other

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Speaker 1: two Purdue quarterbacks. In fact, we had a guest on

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Speaker 1: recently who talked about his dad going to Purdue. Bob

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Speaker 1: Greasy went there. Brian Greasy talked about that. Lenny Dawson

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Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs went to Purdue. This Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve school has the most super Bowl appearances. And here's

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Speaker 1: the hint. It's not USC. Paulie Stanford, No Cow, Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Joe cap Craig Morton, Vince Ferragamo. How about

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Speaker 1: that one. Not exactly a quarterback you nowadays. But there

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Speaker 1: are as many Super Bowl starters in today's NFL from

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Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio as there are Michigan. Others come from

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Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois, Boston College, Texas Tech, Obama might be having

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Speaker 1: a run of starters, but you never know which college

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Speaker 1: the next great quarterback is going to come from. And

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on, we're going to have Mike

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Speaker 1: Renner on, who covers college football for Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, keep in mind, we didn't

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Speaker 1: know much about these quarterbacks last year at this time.

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, Joe Burrow the previous year, Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Haskins the previous year, Kyler Murray, we didn't know if

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Speaker 1: he would be able to play in the NFL. Mitchell

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Speaker 1: Trubisky back in twenty seventeen. There will be quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: come out of nowhere, and we'll discuss this coming up

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Speaker 1: next hour. These are quarterbacks that you need to know

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Speaker 1: about now, and they'll probably quite a few of them

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Speaker 1: are going to be first round draft picks. Let me see, Oh,

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Speaker 1: the great wrestler actor. This week's episode of that Scene.

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Speaker 1: I talked to John seen about this scene in train

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Speaker 1: and she instigates a fight. We also talk about his

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Speaker 1: various similarities to Mark Wahlberg. Here's a portion of the interview.

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Speaker 1: And you're both musicians, rappers. Yeah yeah, I mean we

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Speaker 1: models too. You know, well we were. I actually played

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Speaker 1: his adversary in Daddy's Home, and I think it was Honestly,

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Speaker 1: about the parallels between comedy and wrestling and how Connor

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Speaker 1: McGregor and Mark Wahlberg would do if they got into

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Speaker 1: John Cina all right, age seven seven three d P

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Speaker 1: show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter

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Speaker 1: handle at DP show. Let me say, you know, I

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Speaker 1: still I'm told yesterday that even though the Dolphins publicly

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, their coach backed away from Deshaun Watson without

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Speaker 1: talking about Deshaun Watson. You know, this comes down to

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Speaker 1: the following. My source said, the offer is too high.

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Speaker 1: What the Texans want. That's all it is the price.

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Speaker 1: If when it comes down, then there's a chance. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that Deshaun Watson gets traded. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he plays this year. I think this is basically a

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Speaker 1: get premium price for Deshaun Watson. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: trade him now. I'll pay him the ten million dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'll let him sit. He'll be a healthy scratch. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was told. Probably going to happen with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: will not be playing this year. That's my opinion. But

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Speaker 1: I do think there's no reason for the Texans to

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Speaker 1: be all of a sudden saying, hey, we got to

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Speaker 1: trade him, unless you think something bigger down the road

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Speaker 1: is going to happen. You know, could he be indicted,

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Speaker 1: Like we're not even gonna hear from him, probably until February.

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Speaker 1: With this case, what's the NFL do with him? Unless

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Speaker 1: you think, all right, the NFL is going to suspend

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Speaker 1: him for a year, and who knows if you know

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Speaker 1: he's going to face charges here, Like this isn't just

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Speaker 1: the NFL investigating. There's a whole lot more attached to this.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can get dollar for

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Speaker 1: dollar with Deshaun Watson unless you feel like, hey, I'll

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Speaker 1: take quarters on the dollar, but I wouldn't do it. Yeah, boy,

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Speaker 1: how would it work if Deshaun Watson doesn't agree with

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Speaker 1: that plan and says I would like to play this

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Speaker 1: year because he's eligible to play as far as the

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Speaker 1: NFL's concerned as of right now, he's the best player

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Speaker 1: on the roster by far for them to healthy scratch him.

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Speaker 1: Would he have a case with the players union or

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Speaker 1: some type of grievance because he has not been charged

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Speaker 1: with a crime and he can't get that year back.

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Speaker 1: He gets the money, but he can't get the football

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Speaker 1: play back. Would he have a case? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the Players Association can argue on his behalf that

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Speaker 1: you must play him, because you can't challenge if a

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Speaker 1: wanted them to yell at me. I wanted them to

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Speaker 1: boom me like I needed that. I expected that, not like, hey,

423
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: that's okay, you're oh for ten, we'll get him next time, Tino,

424
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: come on, don't worry about it. You're gonna be okay. Well,

425
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: Saint Louis is the one place I remember you. You

426
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: make a diving play on the visiting team. You come

427
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: up and they're cheering for you. You're like, man, where

428
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: are we? Hey? Cheer for everybody, and I can see like,

429
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: you're right, Tino Martinez, Hey you all right man, you're

430
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: oh for your last twenty seven. You'll be better tomorrow.

431
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: In New York, they're like, get out of pound, you suck,

432
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Speaker 1: You're out of here. Could you have played in New York? Yeah?

433
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Speaker 1: I think I could have definitely played in New York. Yeah,

434
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I could have definitely played in New York, especially later

435
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: in my career when you start, when you start to

436
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: understand what it takes to play in places like that.

437
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: You know, my last year, Danny was in Boston, so

438
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: and I ended up hitting well. So I always say

439
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: what was They always say what was your experience like

440
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: in Boston? I said, it was unbelievable. You know, I

441
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: ended up hitting over three hundred and I never got

442
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: boot So it was a great thing, great experience. What

443
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: kind of ball player would you be because you were

444
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: an average you hit for average, not an average hit

445
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: or you hit for average. Is there a place in

446
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: baseball for you today? Oh? Man? I think I think

447
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm I think a hit her like myself would be

448
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: more appreciated in today's game, just because you know, I

449
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: didn't strike you know, I didn't strike out a hundred

450
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: times like I was gonna. I was a three seventy

451
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: on base you know, I was. I was, I was.

452
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: I was still gonna. I was still gonna hit your doubles.

453
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: I was gonna hit you some home runs. I was

454
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Speaker 1: gonna drive in runs. So like a guy like me,

455
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: I think would have been a would have there's they

456
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: need more guys like me that we're good hitters in

457
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: the game today because the three true outcomes and just

458
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: the strikeouts. How it's just okay to strike out two

459
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: hundred times nowadays. I just don't. I don't think that's

460
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Speaker 1: the greatest product. And I also think, Danny, if you

461
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: go and look at the at the at the teams

462
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: that have won it in the last few years, you know,

463
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: these teams do have good hitters down, up and down

464
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: their lineups. There are tough outs in those lineups. So yeah,

465
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: I think I would do well in today's game. He

466
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Speaker 1: Sean Casey works for the Major League Baseball Network. Three

467
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: time National League All Star. Do you think back in

468
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Speaker 1: the day, and you were probably in the throws of

469
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: the steroid era in the late nineties, Like, do you

470
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: have to make a conscious decision to say I'm not

471
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Speaker 1: going to use steroids? I think so, yeah, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: it's funny, man, And I mean this sincerely, like I

473
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Speaker 1: never did steroids and I didn't even know all the

474
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Speaker 1: guys are doing it. I just I mean, the lifting

475
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: was huge, end guys were huge, and I really think

476
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Speaker 1: the guys that were doing it knew knew they all

477
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: knew they were like a little club. So did I

478
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: expect some guys, like a couple of guys that I

479
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that would come to spring training like with thirty pounds

480
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Speaker 1: of muscle and I'm in the offseason with a personal trainer,

481
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: like just getting after it four or five days a week,

482
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Speaker 1: doing everything I can. I put on three pounds of muscle,

483
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Speaker 1: and I come into spring training and like, what the

484
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: hell is this normal? You put on three pounds of

485
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Speaker 1: muscle And I'm like, bro, how'd you put on thirty

486
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Speaker 1: five pounds of muscle in four months? He's like, oh, man,

487
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 1: I just I was training hard and had a personal

488
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Speaker 1: train I was like, so did I. I was like,

489
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Speaker 1: you put on thirty two more pounds of muscle than

490
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Speaker 1: I did. You gotta be kidding me. So, you know,

491
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: playing in that playing during that time, I think it

492
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: was a conscious choice not to do it, But looking back,

493
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I think for a lot of those years,

494
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how many guys were doing it because

495
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: there's the pressure. It's not when you get to the majors,

496
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Speaker 1: but in the minor leagues. And you know, two guys

497
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Speaker 1: I know who were former minor leaguers said if you

498
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Speaker 1: don't want to do it, but then you see that

499
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Speaker 1: somebody is doing it and they're going to get a

500
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: better chance of getting called up. So it's that peer

501
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: pressure and the money is so different when you get

502
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Speaker 1: called up that you really have to have that, you know, uh,

503
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: the good angel on your shoulder and the devil on

504
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: your other shoulder. And you're like, who am I listening

505
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: to here? Yeah? Yeah, I think the pressure, You're right,

506
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: the pressure the money nowadays, when you start to feel that, okay,

507
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: the playing field's not fair, you know. I mean, their

508
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: guys are making it, you know that are doing steroids.

509
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: They're the ones making all the money. And here I

510
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: am in the minors. I'm not gonna make it. And

511
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Get a pat on the

512
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Speaker 1: back and say I didn't do it? So I think

513
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: there was a real dilemma there for guys, and a

514
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: lot of guys that did do it and didn't do

515
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: it and understandably so handicapped the National League. Wess you

516
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: like the giants of the Dodgers here down the shop, man, man,

517
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Speaker 1: I tell you what. I just think that I the

518
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: Giants have been so awesome, what a story, you know?

519
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: And I think they're really I think they're a really,

520
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: really good team. I mean, I just feel like the

521
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: Dodgers are coming. You know, they've been making that run.

522
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: They're a half game back now, pushing hard. Uh you know,

523
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: adding a Shuzern Turner and those guys you know at

524
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: the at the deadline, I think has been huge. I

525
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: think that I think the Dodgers overtake the Giants in September.

526
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Speaker 1: What do you think about the usage of showhy Outani

527
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: doing double double duty here? I love it. I love it.

528
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Speaker 1: I think I think we're seeing who show hey um

529
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Speaker 1: really is. Because when when Madden was like what do

530
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: you want to do? I think what a spring train is,

531
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: like what do you want to do? He's like, listen,

532
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I want to hit and I want to pitch. I

533
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: don't want to go back to taking two days off.

534
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: And you know with kid gloves, I think they took

535
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: the kid gloves off and they say, the reason you're

536
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: here is because you're a once in a generational player. No,

537
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: you're a once in a lifetime player. We've never seen

538
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: a guy like you, like don't do it, and so

539
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's doing it, he's built

540
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: to do what he's doing, and I think that's why

541
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: it's been such an unbelievable thing to see show Hey,

542
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, doing what he's doing on both sides of

543
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: the ball. Well, I like the story, but I wonder

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: about long term, can he continue to do it? Does

545
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: it take away from I can't imagine. And I saw

546
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: this at Yankee Stadium a couple of months ago, where

547
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: he's got to face the Yankees and they's got a

548
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: lead off. You know, pitchers spend five days preparing for

549
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: a start, and he's playing every single day, and just

550
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: that mental fatigue that you have. It's such a long season,

551
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: and that's what I wonder. Is it counter productive? Will

552
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: it be counterproductive? And at some point no, But I

553
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: think he's the biggest thing with a big league If

554
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: you talk to anybody, it's your routine, Hey, man, what's

555
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: your routine when you come to the big leagues? Hey,

556
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: get a good routine? Well, Show Hey, since he's obviously

557
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: been a teenager in Japan, has got this routine where

558
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: he could start every fifth day but also hit every day.

559
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: I think his routine is just different than what we

560
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: know in the States. That's why we've never seen anything

561
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: like it. So I think he's going to be able

562
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Speaker 1: to do it. I really do. I think he's got

563
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: his body condition and Danny. If he doesn't, then he

564
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: picks one of them and he'd be still one of

565
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: the best players in baseball on one side of the ball.

566
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Speaker 1: But to watch him do this as long as we

567
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: can man as fans, we gotta keep really enjoying it

568
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: and saying we've never standing like this. How many Hall

569
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: of Famers did you take deep? I think I took

570
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: a few deep. Uh, I don't know. Do you have

571
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: the numbers? I don't know. Maybe like, how about how

572
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: about fifteen? Can give me the one though that you

573
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: like you took deep and you're like that that picture

574
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: might be a little I took, I took, I took um.

575
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Let me see what one pops in the night. I

576
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: took Glavin deep a few times. Um I took. I

577
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: hit really well against Maddox. Uh Smoltz was pretty nasty. Uh.

578
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: Let me see Randy Johnson. I never took deep, but

579
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I hit him pretty well. Let me see what other

580
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: big Roy Holliday man. Maybe I didn't go deep, and

581
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: that's enough. I know I hit a lot of them well.

582
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: But maybe not. I know, I got Glavin a few times.

583
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: Why am I drawing blanks on Hall of Famers and

584
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: I played against? But so maybe two? You went from

585
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: fifteen to ten to two. I was like, man, maybe

586
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm starting to ratting the Hall of Famers I played against.

587
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not so many. Okay, no one, There's gotta

588
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 1: be one more out there somewhere. Okay. You walk up

589
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: to the plate for the first time against Randy Johnson, Yeah,

590
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? I seriously was like, God, is

591
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: this scary? Like seriously, why I walk out there my

592
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: first time facing I'll never forget. I was in Cincinnati.

593
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: He's with Arizona. I walk out. He's just got the

594
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: long mullet, you know, just you know, six eleven. You know,

595
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: it's so scary. And I get up there and I

596
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: remember thinking myself, oh my god, that's Randy Johnson. I

597
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: got his baseball card. It is unbelievable. Next, you know,

598
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like, wham, one hundred outside corner. I'm like

599
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Jesus had some way. I'm one hundred outside corner and

600
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: then ninety three mile hour slider, ninety three side and

601
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I'm in for a dogfight. Here's a

602
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this my entire life. Right,

603
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Danny, I start battling because you know,

604
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I didn't strike out a lot. So I get to

605
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: two two, I'm like, I'm not punching out two two. Foul, foul, foul.

606
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: So on this on like the seventh pitch, Randy Johnson

607
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: walks up, he gets like ten feet from the from

608
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: the freaking from the plate. He snatches the bar and

609
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: looks at me like, oh my god. I was like,

610
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: I just want to get the hell out of here.

611
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I was like, so the next pitch I grounded out

612
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: and I was running the first I was like, that's

613
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the greatest ground out of my life. I just wanted

614
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: to be done with as about. It's always great to

615
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: talk to you, man. I hope you're well all right, Danny,

616
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: great seedy man. Thanks for trapping me on at Sean Casey.

617
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: Now you know why he was called the Mayor, the

618
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: fact that Randy Johnson's like ten feet away going Major

619
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Speaker 1: League Baseball Network analysts, three time National League gold Star.

620
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: You can watch Sean across MLB Networks programming, plus check

621
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Speaker 1: out his new podcast, The Mayor's office, Paul and Iowa

622
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: joins us on the program. Hi, Paul, what do you have? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: First up, you know, I'm twenty six years young and

624
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Speaker 1: I'd like to announce my continuing football career at Bishop Sycamore. Yeah.

625
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: You may be on the younger side though, but thank you, Paul. Yeah,

626
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: five eleven, one seventy five. I hear they need a kicker,

627
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: but really, my call today is I want to ask

628
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: you about this hobby via situation and where does this

629
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: fit into the unwritten rules of Major League Baseball? Does

630
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: this kind of equate too? When Randy Moss gave him moon?

631
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul, I had no problem with I mean,

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss didn't pull down, he pulled down his pants

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Speaker 1: or give the you know, the impression he was pulling

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Speaker 1: down his pants. Joe Buck made it worse than what

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Speaker 1: it was, because if you just hear the call, you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, what did Randy Moss do? I don't

637
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Speaker 1: know if it sound like he actually pulled his pants down? Hey,

638
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Joe Buck made it sound like he did truly moon you?

639
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, the unwritten rules. These are New York fans.

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Speaker 1: You love the passion, but then you can't go. Oh man,

641
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: you got too much passion. You guys cared too much.

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Speaker 1: He came from Chicago, where you're probably not getting booed,

643
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Speaker 1: and you won a World series. There. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we did reach out to coaching staff at Bishop Sycamore,

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Speaker 1: the fictitious high school, and they were not available. We

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Speaker 1: were told by somebody that we had to pay, like

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Speaker 1: what kind of compensation could we give to one of

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Speaker 1: the coaches who would be joining us? Fritzie, you had

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Speaker 1: the interaction there with them, I did, and there was

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Speaker 1: a message back to me basically saying, you know what

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Speaker 1: type of compensations involved? Because while they're going through all

652
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: this darrests and stress and everything, I guess maybe they

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Speaker 1: would feel better if they were getting some kind of

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Speaker 1: money for coming on this. Okay, but but how we

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Speaker 1: don't pay guests? Did you not do? I like fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars one hundred? Like how much is enough? Like? How

657
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Speaker 1: much is it for a high school coach? A fair question,

658
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: by the way, the high school coach just got fired,

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Speaker 1: didn't he at Bishop Sycamore. Yeah, so you probably got

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Speaker 1: to up it a little bit to make up for that.

661
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's closer to one hundred dollars for a footman.

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Speaker 1: My question. When mclevan sent this to me yesterday, he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the head coach of Bishop Sycamore got fired. And

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Speaker 1: I go by, who, like, do they have any adults

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Speaker 1: who are affiliated with the program? They're a GM or

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00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: the team that's I didn't know. I wasn't sure who

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Speaker 1: this was that that would fire the coach. Yes, McLean,

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Speaker 1: I was afraid to say this yesterday, but I think

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Speaker 1: we should have paid for the guy shipping. Aren't you

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Speaker 1: dying to know what he would say? You know, when

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Speaker 1: Fritzie said, hey, I'm going to reach out, and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear from this coach of how

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Speaker 1: he's pulled this fraud off and got on ESPN to play.

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: You know, one of the better schools in the country,

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Speaker 1: and he's got kids who aren't even in high school.

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Speaker 1: They don't even actually have a school. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 1: we were journalistically unethical, I willing to actually pay for one.

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Speaker 1: We spore to come out. We don't even know what

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Speaker 1: to send the check to, or some box that doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist online. Send it, tell them we're gonna send it

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Speaker 1: to the high school. The high school Yeah, we'll send

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Speaker 1: it to the high school. I'm gonna drop it off

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Speaker 1: at the high school. Next time I'm in Columbus, I'll

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Speaker 1: drop it off at the high school. All right, let

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Speaker 1: me take a break. More phone calls coming up. The

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons situation with the seventy sixers is not going away?

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Speaker 1: And are the sixers making it worse? I had that

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Speaker 1: an eye on what's going on with the seventy Sixers

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Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has publicly talked about not

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Speaker 1: going back to Philadelphia, doesn't want to go to camp.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, you know, the seventy sixers having

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Speaker 1: themselves to blame for this, because if I go back

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Speaker 1: to that lost to the Atlanta Hawks when Ben Simmons

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: famously passed up a dunk when Trey Young, who is

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: niner ten inches smaller than him, and he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go up for the dunk, didn't want to get foul,

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00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: and he passed it off. And then after the game,

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00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: Joe l Embiid talked about that was the turning point

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Speaker 1: of the game when our guy didn't want to go

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Speaker 1: for the dunk, was worried he was going to get found.

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Speaker 1: And then Doc Rivers was asked, can you win a

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Speaker 1: championship with Ben Simmons as your point guard? He goes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, if you're Ben Simmons, you have

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00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: doubts already about your game. And now I got Joel

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Speaker 1: MBD in my head. Coach Doc Rivers, who have doubts

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Speaker 1: about me as well. Of course he doesn't want to

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00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: go back there, and you know that the fans are

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Speaker 1: going to be holding their breath every time he has

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Speaker 1: to go to the line. But I don't know if

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: he's harder to trade now because he doesn't want to

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00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: go back to Philadelphia. I still think Golden State would

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: be intriguing. But then I also heard this Philadelphia would

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00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: probably want Draymond Green and Clay Thompson if they don't

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00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: get Damian Lillard. So you're thinking, Okay, what's Golden State?

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00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: What's their thought process? I can get rid of Draymond

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Speaker 1: Green at his age and Clay Thompson coming off a

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00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: couple of surgeries, even though he's a wonderful shooter. That

732
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Speaker 1: gives them that Damian Lillard kind of shoot on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: And then I bring in Ben Simmons, We get younger.

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Speaker 1: I still have Steph Curry. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: younger players here. I'm thinking, all right, is that sort

736
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: of the game plan here? But I think that everybody

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Speaker 1: is waiting for the seventy six ers to lower their

738
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Speaker 1: trade demands. The same thing as Houston. NFL teams interested

739
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Speaker 1: in Deshaun Watson might not be interested in him right now,

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: just because they're asking too much in return. Yeah, Paul,

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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: do you think that Ben Simmons and his people think

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00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: everything is fine and he's a great NBA player and

743
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: he's there's no everything's going smoothly, that's what it feels

744
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: like from the outside, and they think this is just

745
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: working out great. He scores, you know, he scores a little,

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: he rebounds, sis all purpose player. Well, I hope that

747
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of sycophants, you know, yes,

748
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: men there, that you have people giving him some some

749
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: true criticism just to say, hey, you gotta we have

750
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: to work on this. This is on you. And that's

751
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: why I thought he should have played for the Olympic

752
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: team for Australia. Play with people, you know, build up

753
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: your confidence and then kind of build off of that,

754
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: because it doesn't just magically happen where he's gonna all

755
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden go oh hey, I can make my

756
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: free throws and oh I can make it a three pointer.

757
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: His form is not bad. His confidence is what's bad.

758
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: And he's got to work on his confidence level. Well,

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00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: the only way you do that is being successful, not

760
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: in a pickup game, not in some video that somebody

761
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: shoots of you shooting threes with nobody on you and

762
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: nothing at stake. It's only going to happen when you

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00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: do it in a game. Yeah. See, you get the

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Speaker 1: sense that Ben Simmons needs, like Lebron or somebody like

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Speaker 1: that to step in and be like, no, I want

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Speaker 1: him on my team. I need Ben on my team.

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00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: That's kind of his only real hope. Could you imagine

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00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: if Kobe took him under his wing, he would Kobe

769
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: would have been like, right in his face. It would

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00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: have been tough love. And I don't know if Lebron

771
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: would give tough love there, but I think that's what

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00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons needs because he has this opportunity to do

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00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: something to be great. I mean, he's an All Star,

774
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year, he's a really good passer, rebounder.

775
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: It's just he doesn't have confidence when it comes to shooting. Yeah, mccleman. Yeah.

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00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: There was also this report that Stephen A came out

777
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: this summer and said he doesn't work and he's constantly babied,

778
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: which brings true. I mean, he seems like his guys

779
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: who tell them things are okay. Yes, Philly wants him out.

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00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean there is a fan alive who wants him back. No,

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00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: but you know, Daryl Morey and Doc Rivers are the

782
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: two people I care about what their opinions are. But

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00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: it feels like when Doc said when he was asked,

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00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: can you win a championship with Ben Simmons, And he said,

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing, I don't know. I mean that tells

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00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: you everything right there, like you back your player. I

787
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: mean you say, of course I do. But he didn't.

788
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: It was like it was a moment of truth there

789
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: from Doc Rivers and if I'm Ben Simmons, I don't

790
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: want to go back. But he has to understand why

791
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: they don't want him back. That's the key or he's

792
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: going to continue to be this kind of player. I

793
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: still think going to a team that is not going

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00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: to be qualifying for a playoff spot is really important

795
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: for him. He needs to kind of disappear to reappear. Yeah, mcclub,

796
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: But it sounds like he doesn't want to do that.

797
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: It sounds like he wants to go to a big bend,

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00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: that is, go to a big mature. He wants to

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00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: go to Los Angeles. He wants to go to California.

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00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Now Sacramentos in California, but I'm guessing he wants to

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00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: go to Golden State. I don't know how you squeeze

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00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: him in with the Lakers with that salary. How do

803
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: you squeeze him in? What's your sign in trade or

804
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Yeah, mcclub fill in for Kawai

805
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: and Clippers now they're stuck with Kwai. I mean, while

806
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: Kawai's out next year, maybe Simmons could do a lot

807
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: of that production. I don't know how they pay him too.

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00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: Who knows about the salary cap? Like the Lakers squeezed

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