WEBVTT - All Ball - Gottlieb Boys Night Edition 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.000 Hey, what up. It's Gottlieb. This is All Ball. Got 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.040 a special one for you to say, thanks so much 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:18.079 for downloading. And the great thing about basketball is there's 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.320 so many different parts of it that are like connective tissue. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.079 This All Ball was recorded on a Saturday night when 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.600 we didn't have games. It's not yet the high school 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.040 season and it's not yet the college season, so we 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.600 had some time to hang out and just chop it 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.720 up with a couple of people closest to my heart. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.479 My son Hayes Gottlieb, who's an eighth grader. My nephew, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.159 Gage Gottlieb, who's a junior in high school a La 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:54.800 Costa Canyon in San Diego. Actually, yes, Candido and a 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.960 good friend of mine, and Hayes, and frankly jere and 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.280 Gage as well, JEREMYA Paulino who plays for Westcliff University. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:08.320 It's a NAIA school in Irvine, California. So you have 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.920 I'm the old man, Hayes the young guy, and everybody 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.360 and the other two are kind of in the middle 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.360 of the high school in college basketball. All four of 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.200 us love basketball in very very different ways. I would 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.800 say that Jeremiah wants to be a pro trainer. It's 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:33.560 his passion. Gauge wants to be a player at a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:39.240 higher level than Jeremiah is currently playing at. And he 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.080 is an exceptionally hard worker. And then Hayes is kind 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.760 of trying to figure it out. Loves ball, loves playing, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.520 likes working at it, kind of a late bloomer in 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.640 terms of his growth, and so some of that can 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.640 become a frustration. And I just thought it'd be a 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.360 cool conversation to have and we can check back in 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.080 once we get into the season. Per se right, high 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.920 school season kicks off very soon in terms of practice 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.959 in southern California. College seasons get underway in the month 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.800 of November for ANIA as well as NCAA, and of 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.400 course my job cranking up with college basketball and the 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.080 NBA has already kicked off. So we had got a 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:25.080 winding conversation. Some of it's about college, about basketball, some 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.840 of it's about basketball in general, some of it's about life. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.320 And I thought you did appreciate it. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:31.320 This is all ball. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:40.440 Here's my conversation with Hayes, Gage and Jeremiah. Okay, it's 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:45.480 our first edition Boys' Night Saturday Night. You're in the 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.840 All Ball Pod. Okay. Joining me on this podcast is 0:02:51.400 --> 0:03:01.040 fourteen year old hair model. He loves rolling, fighting roller coasters, 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.480 even though he's not big enough to ride most of them. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.760 I literally can ride every road. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.320 You talk, okay. Also joining us is another hair model 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:23.680 from what is it LaCosta Canyon High School. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.760 he's he's going the route of like, uh yeah, you're 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.239 kind of like Michael Beasley, right, different school every year 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.200 sort of deal, right, I mean you think about it, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.320 if you if you go postgrad, he'll do five and 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.400 five years potentially, so we'll see if you last. LaCosta King, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.960 the Great Gauge Gottliet joins me. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.000 M m. 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:51.960 Okay, and then red shirt freshman at Westcliffe University, which 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.040 we're told is a real school and it has real 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.040 classes and real degrees, but it just doesn't seem like 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.960 a real school. But he is a real point guard. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:01.520 He is. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.200 He's what a true point guard? 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.640 That's my boy, He's a true point guard. Jeremiah Paulino. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:15.400 Jeremiah Paulino. Okay, boys, so here's what we're gonna do. Okay, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.200 each of you, if you want to give a take 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.880 or have a or you want to have a topic 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.600 you want to get to, you get one basketball and 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.160 one non basketball. Okay, one basketball and one non basketball. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.040 And you got to keep in mind if you're listening 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.960 to this podkay, Heyes is fourteen, Gauge is seventeen, Jeremiah 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.360 is twenty one, about to be twenty two. So there's 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.279 a lot of shit that they don't know, but they 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.200 think they know everything, as most people do when they're fourteen, 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:51.839 seventeen and twenty two. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:55.760 No, we don't. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.520 Well, Gage knows a lot, but it's all anything he's 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.520 read or seen your members. But you know, he's only 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.760 been on this earth for seventeen years, so there's just 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.920 things you don't know. Okay, let's start with Jeremiah because 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.880 he's been asking me to do this pod since I 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:17.440 first met him. Right, and as you can attest Hayes 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.680 when I when I asked Jeremiah, whatever, whatever topic you want, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:27.400 and he always said, Hayes, what he said, Basketball, that's 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:28.120 a cool topic. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.240 We're not coming on here just to roast me. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.880 Okay, Okay, that's a deep, deep topic. Okay, So what 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.440 is the topic you would like to get to, Jeremiah? 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.760 What what are some things that make a great point guard. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.240 To kissing up, kissing up to the host, kissing up 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.919 to the hostel kissing up to the host, will do? 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.839 Is that really what you want to talk about? That's 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:55.599 really a topic. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.599 Let him let what wants to talk about. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.719 I under stand, but I do think there's a portion 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.160 of that where he's like trying to play into my wheelhouse. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.160 That was a point guard, right, and so like just. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.960 You bro, like you said, you said that. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.080 Guys, you know, our age don't know everything, but we 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.000 think we know everything. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.600 So why not learn from the guys. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.560 But the idea this is a free flowing Okay, So 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.320 how about this? Who's the for you? Who's your favorite 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.120 point guard playing basketball? 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.520 Favorite point guard right now? Yeah? 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:42.320 I would say either Kyrie or I really been liking 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.680 Jamal Murray as well. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:51.919 Jamal Murray. Okay, I'll come back to you, Hayes, who 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.080 is your favorite point guard playing basketball right now? 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.640 I like Shay I think she is a good point guard. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.160 But Chigils Alexander also also. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:08.200 One more I like to say. Jaylen Broun says, you. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.160 Know, okay, j okay, Gage Gottlig. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.240 I also like Jylen Brussel a lot. Also Darius Darland. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:17.360 I like him a lot too. 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:23.840 Okay, we'll go back to you, JP. What about what 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.800 about Kyrie do you like best? In terms of him 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:27.600 as a pointer. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.560 It's more on the offensive side than his creative ability, 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.120 just him being able to make plays with the ball 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.920 in his hands, and then just him being older, starting 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:44.280 to like hit the end of his career, kind of 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.160 end of his prime where he's able to kind of 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.840 like make plays and start being more of like a 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.880 playmaking before he gets to his like. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:59.760 Bag, If that makes sense. I think he's thirty thirty something, you. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:00.800 Guys, I guess. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.120 Yeah, I'm gonna get thirty two. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:10.160 I don't know. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:16.520 I think the answer thirty one, thirty one, thirty one, thirty. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.640 One final answer, yes, and then thirty one years old. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.160 That's correct. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.920 He's thirty one, but he's what i'd call an old 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:23.840 thirty one right. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:24.520 One. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.320 He only played one year in college. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:26.560 Two. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.280 He's had injuries literally every year. Right he had he 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:36.560 broke the tow in college. He's I mean, he's basically 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.600 been a mashing it. The knee injury was a bad 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.719 one because that was in the NBA finals his first 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.480 year with Lebron and he had that mesh put in, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.599 and then he had a screw in that mesh that 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.000 ended up getting infected. And so that's why he missed 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.480 the postseason that first year with the Celtics when they 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.240 went to the Conference finals without him, because he had 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.160 to take that screw taken out hat that meshine taken 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.400 out anyway, So he's kind of an old thirty one 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.240 because he's had a lot of injuries. But okay, and 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.200 then who is the other one? You had Kyrie and and. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.520 Then Jamal Murray. I was going to get into that 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.199 as well, like just like on the other side of 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.520 the ball, like him being able to just be in 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.079 the right positions on defense, like being able to just 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.679 I don't know, I just like the Nuggets defense last year. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.320 I don't think was particularly good defensive player. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:25.440 Bro. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.000 I hate to break it to you, he's just. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.200 I Q wise though, like just being able to understand 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:30.920 where he needs to be. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.839 And I like him as I like him, but I 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.960 would I would just say he's not a great defense. 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.679 Matter of fact, if you remember the NBA Finals, the 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.000 little or or even the against the Lakers, the little 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.000 success the Lakers had it was attacking Jamal Murray a 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.640 lot like they attacked Steph Curry, right, kind of same thing. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:53.680 Put him on an island. He's you said, Jalen Brunson 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.800 and Shaye, what is about Shay's game that you like? 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:02.040 Well, actually, you can start with whoever you want, all right. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:07.080 So I like Jalen Brunson a lot because I feel 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.480 like he's like he scores a lot differently than other 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.720 guards his size, and I think that's. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:15.560 Kind of cool. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.720 He's actually really good off the backing down and he's 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.800 a great one D one player. He knows how to 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.280 pass the ball when he needs to m And I 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.480 just feel like I get to study a lot from 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.800 him when I watch his clips because he's teaching me 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.800 things that I don't see in a lot of other 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:35.400 point guards. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:43.040 Okay, Gage Gottlieb, you like, what do you like about Brunson? Oh, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.520 kind of the same things, Hey said. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.839 I think it's it's cool that like he's like five 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.839 or eleven six foot wi shoes on operating in the 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.800 post against like seven footers and cooking hot. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.480 So okay, So you asked JP about all these point guards, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.880 and the one thing you have to you have to 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.000 respect is that the game has evolved, right like the 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.920 way the point guard position was in the eighties and seventies, 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.559 when you were just a facilitator, you did have to 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.480 be a score. I mean, look, Isaiah Thomas was a 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:17.000 great scorer. Jason Kidd was a decent scorer, but a 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.840 great passer. Magic Johnson could score, but also as an 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.000 incredible passer. It's much more of a score first position. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.839 You'll be a score every position, and especially if you're 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.040 a smaller point guard, you'll be able to shoot at least, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.679 but then score some because you know they're going to 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.520 attack you on the defensive end. If we're breaking down 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.040 all of these guys, Jalen Brunson would be the only 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.080 guy I would say, like, that guy is a real 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.920 point guard. And maybe this is unfair to him, but 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.880 were unfair to the others. But to be considered like 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.640 a whatever you consider a true point guard. I don't 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.480 think it's about scoring averages as much as can you 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.559 function well on and off the ball. If you're a 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.600 function well off the ball, then you're not really a pointer. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.120 Sometimes by necessity you have to play out the ball. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.040 I'd say, Jalen Brunson, you got to be able to 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.679 run a team, get a team into your stuff. And 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:11.640 if you look at what how they're using Shade this year, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.559 they're going to use him off the ball like he had. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.720 He had a really good quote I think this week 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.199 where he's like, if Michael Jordan can play off the ball, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:23.959 I can play out the ball. Ye, Kyrie looks like 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.480 a point guard, brings the ball up like a point 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.600 guard can if he wants to pass like a point guard. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.599 But I don't know, that's a tough sale for me. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.920 And I love his I mean, I love his talent. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.240 He may be the most talented guy to ever play 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:42.160 the position. It's talent, Yeah, I mean he I had 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.199 a conversation once when he was in the Celtics with 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.200 Brad Stevens and Brad was like, I was like, Brad, 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.240 how come he doesn't pass? He's like he can pass. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.559 He's a great passor he's the best passer I've ever had. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:51.880 He just. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.839 He likes to score. He's always kind of been a 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.000 scoring guard. So I mean, look, look, I think most 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.520 people would consider it. I rea point per se, but 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.880 on that team, lucas their point guard. On the Lakers, 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.160 the Bronze their point guard you know, I mean all 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.840 these teams, man, I think that's gonna be The interesting 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.719 thing with Dame going forward is I think Gianni is 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.960 as much their point guard, although late in games obviously 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.559 they're going to run through Dame because he can shoot. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.920 But what I love what I love about Brunson and 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.480 Hayes knows this. I think you guys know it is 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.160 He's not the fastest guy, but he gets wherever he 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.280 wants to get to. It's I've never seen anything like 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.840 his ability to get shots off. Like you said, Jay Cook, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.959 dudes in the post, in the mid range and you 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.360 don't know how he I don't know how he does. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:40.960 It's really remarkable. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:42.680 Huh. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.559 What do you classify as a point guard? Because you 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.920 said Lebron to get. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.600 To Yeah, I mean, like you said, true point guards. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.719 I thought Darius Garland is a good example of that. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:53.920 Like in today's NBA. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.920 Is Darius Garland true point guard? Isn't he a shooter? Oh? 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.040 He's like a He's like a Dame Lillard right A 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:09.640 little bit. He don't do as much. So okay, I mean, well, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.400 I don't think there's many true point guards in the NBA, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.800 at least as starters like TJ. McConnell's a backup that 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.840 kind of. I think Jalen is probably the best Truish 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.920 point guard. He still scores about twenty two game right. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.040 You know, it's it's hardwork with with with Lebron. But 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.280 like when the Lakers need to run something, they Lebron 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.840 has the ball, brings up the courts. That's hi up. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.240 So I don't know it. It's just it's an evolving position. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:36.880 And I think what you gotta do is you got 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:41.000 to play to your strengths and then you have to 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.800 find a coach or a team that will build a 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.560 team around you or put you on a team where 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.360 those strengths fit. I don't know if that makes sense. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.280 To you, guys. I think that makes sense to me. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.240 How many times who's going to touch their hair more? 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.720 Tremiah Hayes or Gauge? 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:07.040 Gauge is his hand still in his hair? 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:08.720 They both really liked their hair a lot. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.320 Okay, well you might, but I honestly, like when I 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.960 when I was growing up, like just being a Celtics 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.840 fan and stuff like that. I know you guys hate 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.840 me for that, but. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.040 Who hates you hates you? 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:27.360 What? Because because the Lakers fan. I'm in California now 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:28.320 from Boston. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:29.640 I'm not a Lakers fan. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:36.480 You weren't, no, okay, all right, whatever, but just growing 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:41.280 up and seeing Rondo, like you know that just Rondo 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.160 was just the definition of just a true point guard. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.840 And yeah, Rondo, Rondo is probably the last of the 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.960 dying breeds of guys that couldn't score. But again, but like, okay, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.000 so we take Rondo right, they put him, he had 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.320 four Hall of Famers around him, and when he didn't 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.760 have the ball, oftentimes they would put him in the 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.200 dunker spot because he couldn't shoot, but that way, but 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:04.840 he was a good enough finisher where you could throw 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.560 it to him and you couldn't just clog the lane 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:08.040 off of him. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.160 So it's really interesting. I would agree with you, like 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.880 Rondo's kind of the last non shooting point guard to 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.280 win an NBA championship or even be on you know, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.160 viable NBA championship caliber team. 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.640 Studying his teammates, you know, just doing the little things, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:22.920 you know. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.280 Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.680 the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.880 dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:35.640 listen live. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.720 What makes a guy not feel good about himself? 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.360 That's a thing can cause you a lot of confidence. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.880 Like look, I'll say for myself obviously, like I lost 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:47.640 confidence in my jump shot when I was playing, but 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.400 I've lost conferences as a guy, you know when the 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.880 things are going to be hard at some point in 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.720 your life. You know, you'll lose a job, you'll lose 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.960 a girlfriend, you lose a wife, you lose a relationship, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.480 you lose a house, a car, you'll lose a deal 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:07.720 that you try to close it on. And yeah, right, no, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.840 that was that was pretty traumatic. Brand new e bikes 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:16.280 got stolen by some tweaker. Okay, so this is like 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.680 what one and a half or two and a half 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.080 years ago I got. I got the same e bikes 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.800 I have now, And it was literally like the day 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:30.720 after Christmas, Yeah it was. And so Hayes, you know, Hayes, like, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.520 I want to care, Let's cut some candy, Let's take 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.520 the e bikes, get some candy. So we ride the 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.400 CBS and I had yet to purchase locks, and Hayes 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:40.600 knew how to do it. So I don't know why 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.240 I came in the store, but We parked the bikes 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.680 right out front in the little bike block sort of area, 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.399 and then he was taking a while and I was 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.240 sure he's going to buy up the whole store, and 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.200 so I went inside to help him and we came 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:52.920 out and one of my e bikes was gone, like 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.320 literally had it for forty eight hours. And then we 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.080 put it out on next door. We put it on 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.159 Twitter and Hayes's I was really upset. I was more 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.080 upset with myself, but also that like, and I know, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.840 Hayes just kind of lived a sheltered upbringing, but I 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.119 just he's a The one thing that Hayes has some 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.120 really good virtues. One of him is he's a really 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.360 pretty honest person about stuff like that, Like you would 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.960 never take something of this belonged him, and just seeing that, 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.000 like it's like a violation of you, you know, the 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.680 real world that people steal ship right in front of you. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.320 You just got it as a gift. And I think 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:32.040 you saw how upset I was. Yeah, that was it. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:32.880 That was a tough one. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.320 Now, can we get like into like the reaction and 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.359 respond thing that we talked about, like we like a 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:50.080 couple of weeks ago, Sure, like just because we talked 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.520 about ourselves now, like you know, and we give some 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:53.160 advice out. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:53.880 Okay. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.879 So hey, I'm gonna give you a scenario and you 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.399 and and you tell them what your advice would be. Okay. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:07.440 So let's say you're twelve years old, okay, and what's 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.359 been one of the hardest things in your life? 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.080 When you guys divorced. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.159 It was something I had to come to realize that 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:18.840 everything happened for a reason. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.840 Okay, So how do you how do. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:28.000 You advice would be the instead of because I can 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.000 relate to this lots of times when one thing goes wrong, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.480 people always want like to get away from it when 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:36.640 one thing becomes hard. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:42.639 Okay, what about what about when you're a kid and 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:47.480 your parents split up. What is the advice you would 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.960 give to a twelve year old boy? 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.880 One thing is you just got to keep pushing through. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:59.000 Also say little opportunities and the good things rather than 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.040 that they split up in the bad things? 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.520 Did you did you always? Did you always do that? 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:04.520 Have you always done that? 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:06.800 Yeah? 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.399 I just I would look at the bright side of 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.120 things I have in my life that I'd say lots 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.760 of the times that when I when you guys divorced, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.280 that I still have two loving parents, even though they're 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.159 not as correlated to each other as they are now. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.760 I still have two loving parents, and I still have 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.960 roof over my head, and I still oh, you know, 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.920 it's notice. It's nothing like, yes, we don't live all 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:39.720 together anymore, but I would say that I get a 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.679 good amount of time spending with both of. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.720 You guys, So I like it, mm hmm. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:46.760 But you get. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.920 Oh with me, it's different because like I lived with 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.359 my mom for two years and then I decided to 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.639 move out to Arizona with my dad last year, and 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.919 then we had to move again because Rolake switching job. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.800 But why did you why did he switch shops gage 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.200 to be closer to the rest of the family. So 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.080 I mean it makes sense, correct, I mean the one thing, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:12.960 the one thing, and this is this goes to Hayes's point, Okay, 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.840 is that it's really important because I know it's been 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.159 really hard for you to switch schools again, like you 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.280 were just getting to where you had a good setup 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:26.119 with him at GCU and and you know, playing a 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.000 lot more in Arizona, whether your team was good or not. 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:33.200 It's always better when you're playing. But listen, but you 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.000 got to play. You've got great experience, and you improved 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.119 a lot, and you were the best looking at your 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:45.080 high school. I was okay, But the reason he took 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.360 the job is only there's two reasons, and they're your sisters, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.960 you know. And the thing that, like I can tell 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.840 you from my side of it is like, it's so hard. 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.760 Hayes is right down the street. When he's not with me, 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:00.840 it's still hard. 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.479 That was because that kid. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.760 I slept next to that kid for four years straight, 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.520 literally said, in the same bed as the days for 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.520 more maybe more than four years. And before the I 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.480