Speaker 1: Hey everybody, what's up y'all? Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited today. This is a very special Maybe
Speaker 1: I've said it before, but I think this might be
Speaker 1: our specialist episode. They just get more and more special
Speaker 1: every time we can improve, stop getting special. Thank you
Speaker 1: all for tuning in. We're talking today with two of
Speaker 1: our brand new best friends. Uh from the I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio podcast Tossed Popcorn. We have Leanna and Sienna here today. Hello, hello,
Speaker 1: new best friends. Thank you for joining us. So honored
Speaker 1: time here. Oh yeah, we love We love expanding our
Speaker 1: little romantic circle over here. We like to invite new
Speaker 1: people and keep it fresh. You know what I meant
Speaker 1: interesting sound you know? Um? Will you tell us a
Speaker 1: little about your show and yourselves? That is I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing this at you like I was born and I
Speaker 1: was born to we both we are two women, both
Speaker 1: were birth. We have so much in comment. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We're very We have a movie podcast where we are
Speaker 1: going down the A f I S one hundred Greatest
Speaker 1: American Movies of all Time, the tant Anniversary edition. Um,
Speaker 1: and we both don't really get a lot of movies,
Speaker 1: nor have we enjoyed a lot before doing this, so
Speaker 1: we thought, we're going to go through all the classics,
Speaker 1: see what we think, see what we get from them
Speaker 1: as people who don't really get the medium. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: taking them off their pedestal and given them a blunt
Speaker 1: and honest Look. I love Marvel films just by the way,
Speaker 1: that's us. I like movies with good colors and things,
Speaker 1: so not the blue tone or whatever of Marvel. I
Speaker 1: don't know what marble colors are, but mustard colors now,
Speaker 1: I also love them. Muppets. Yeah, between the two of you,
Speaker 1: these are those are pretty much our two favorit kinds
Speaker 1: of movies. So beautiful. I'll also say this is the
Speaker 1: second recording in two hours in which Sianna has mentioned Muppets.
Speaker 1: She's a big Muppets should be mentioned often. Guilty, I
Speaker 1: can't talk about them too much. But no more Muppets
Speaker 1: please now, more than ever, Yes, more than ever. Read Muppets.
Speaker 1: That's actually true, because they're so pure and friendly and
Speaker 1: wholesome and kind. We could use more of that. And
Speaker 1: flustered and hilarious and frustrated. Ermit frustration as someone who
Speaker 1: was artistic director of a theater company for a few years,
Speaker 1: kermits flustered backstage, like the challenge just keeping his ship
Speaker 1: together is definitely something I relate to. Yes, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: have some theater background too, isn't that right? Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I was a theater major in college
Speaker 1: and then do comedy stuff here in l A. Awesome.
Speaker 1: We met on our improv team, and I hear in
Speaker 1: l A was once told on a date that I
Speaker 1: looked like I had quote improv hair. Also it wasn't here.
Speaker 1: That's a very good insight into dating in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: How much Nightmare did well. It is so awesome to
Speaker 1: have you guys on Ridiculous Romance. I think we came
Speaker 1: up with a really good crossover type episode for our
Speaker 1: two podcasts um where we're going to talk about the
Speaker 1: real story behind the Adam Sandler Drew Barrymore hit movie.
Speaker 1: We can go on a hit Yeah, sure, yeah, hit
Speaker 1: movie something fifty first dates. Yeah, it hit somebody, somebody
Speaker 1: loved you know somebody. I heard somebody got hit in
Speaker 1: the movie. There were Yeah, several people got filth I
Speaker 1: got hit. Yeah. Yeah, Rob Schneider getting the best part
Speaker 1: of the movie. I would watch a movie just Rob
Speaker 1: Schneider getting hit by a bat alright, Leanna has Leona
Speaker 1: has described several of the classic movies that we have
Speaker 1: seen as just men getting hit with the bat men.
Speaker 1: So this can slide right in today. If I lose this, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would change the tone. It would change the tone. Well,
Speaker 1: I know that everyone's been waiting for someone to do it.
Speaker 1: A nice hour long review of the movie fifty first Dates. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's the best place to do it. Yeah, everybody's
Speaker 1: saying it. It's trending. It's constantly trending, pinged about it
Speaker 1: every day. When I saw your email that you were
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this, I said, thank god, Yes,
Speaker 1: now more than we thought this is a big episode.
Speaker 1: Is this the right one to use it on? I
Speaker 1: think I think it's I think this is it's time.
Speaker 1: It's time. Well, we found this woman, Michelle Philip Potts
Speaker 1: and her husband Ian who she suffers from a very
Speaker 1: similar condition to the one that Drew Barrymore has in
Speaker 1: Fifty First States. And it must be said that fifty
Speaker 1: First States is not based on this woman's story. A
Speaker 1: lot of people says, say it is, but it's very different. Um.
Speaker 1: Any neuropsychologist would tell you that the movie is an
Speaker 1: outrageous depiction of this particular type of amnesia. Um but
Speaker 1: but a lot of people associate this story with this movie.
Speaker 1: So we want to talk about that day. We brought
Speaker 1: you guys here to talk about this movie and this
Speaker 1: condition which has been really fascinating to learn about. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna make some new memories we talk about
Speaker 1: this and hopefully not lose them. Should we dive into
Speaker 1: the theme song? Yeah, let's do it all right, let's go.
Speaker 1: Hey the French, come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got
Speaker 1: some stories to tell. There's no match making a romantic
Speaker 1: to It's just about ridiculous relationships. I love it might
Speaker 1: be any type of person at all. And abstract concept
Speaker 1: are a concrete wall. But if there's a story where
Speaker 1: the second clans ridiculous role a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: So Michelle Philpotts is a year old woman in the
Speaker 1: UK who suffers from an extreme case of a condition
Speaker 1: called in terrograde amnesia, which is where her brain has
Speaker 1: lost the ability to store new memories. Um. So this
Speaker 1: I mean and I can relate to this because I can't.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I can relate to this because it's
Speaker 1: probably a very different legitimate disability to my just clinically
Speaker 1: shitty memory. Yeah so but I have the same condition
Speaker 1: that you do. Yeah, clinically shitty. Yeah. So let's talk memory.
Speaker 1: We dug up some information about this because we like
Speaker 1: to learn stuff that you know, isn't necessarily the direct
Speaker 1: subject of our show, but hey we're learning. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: there's two types of memory, right, We've got declarative memory
Speaker 1: and procedural memory. And declarative memory is your recollection of
Speaker 1: facts like these are subdivided into episodic memory, which can
Speaker 1: be real specific, uh, something like you know, some asshole
Speaker 1: and a red SUV cut me off yesterday while he
Speaker 1: was coming out of the Starbucks, like very specific details.
Speaker 1: I remember that happened. I'll never forget exactly. Uh. Then
Speaker 1: there's semantic memory, the other type of declarative memory, which
Speaker 1: is more like, Um, I know that I own a stapler,
Speaker 1: but I don't know where it is. It's got staples
Speaker 1: in it, I don't know where I bought it, just
Speaker 1: deep in my brain somewhere, but it doesn'txist years. Um.
Speaker 1: And then there's procedural memory. On the flip side, which
Speaker 1: is like how to do things right. I know how
Speaker 1: to use a can opener, I know how to tie
Speaker 1: my shoes. I could still do to the macarena. That's
Speaker 1: procedural memory. Wow, right, big day for you. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a Friday. Yeah. So in tarograde amnesia typically
Speaker 1: just affects that type of declarative memory. So people with
Speaker 1: this condition they can remember how to make a phone call,
Speaker 1: or if they already knew, they can remember how to
Speaker 1: play the piano. Imagine they can't just suddenly play the piano.
Speaker 1: What do your memory that happened to someone? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a guy like suddenly knew Spanish or something. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like some brain injury and yeah he had it,
Speaker 1: suddenly had a totally different personality and skill set. It'd
Speaker 1: be cool if you could knock your heads together and
Speaker 1: memories would transfer between Like Apple products can kind of
Speaker 1: do that now, Yeah, just air drop things, yeah, smacking you.
Speaker 1: I'm ready deleted scene from the matrix. They didn't show us,
Speaker 1: Well why not? Alright? So yeah, so when you have
Speaker 1: interrograde amnesia, you remember how to play the piano, but
Speaker 1: you can't necessarily remember what you did this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: something very recent, and according to very well mind dot com,
Speaker 1: that's because declarative and procedural memories are stored in different
Speaker 1: parts of the brain, and typically people lose the episodic
Speaker 1: memory but not the semantics. So they again, they remember
Speaker 1: that they owned the stapler, but they can't remember if
Speaker 1: they used it today. There anything they did. They just
Speaker 1: suddenly have stapled pages and they're like, well, I'll go
Speaker 1: and two together if I can remember how to do that?
Speaker 1: Is now the time? Have you all been watching Moon
Speaker 1: Night on? Absolutely, it is the time. Let's go at
Speaker 1: night down for a night. I know he has completely
Speaker 1: a different situation going on, but I'm sure he woke
Speaker 1: up with something staple that he did not remember stapling exactly.
Speaker 1: He's clearly going out and buying goldfish every other line, right,
Speaker 1: That was so sweet. I know that was sweet. I
Speaker 1: would like to see a scene of Mark Spector buying
Speaker 1: the gold his self by each other so much like
Speaker 1: Little Brothers. I love it. It's beautiful. Obsessed Also Oscar
Speaker 1: Isaac like I do anything that he could ruin my life,
Speaker 1: and I would say thank you the same. Good time.
Speaker 1: Universal opinion I think about Oscar is just a special someone.
Speaker 1: So some memories are stored in a different part of
Speaker 1: the brain, and some memories are stored in another one
Speaker 1: of you who's in there beingilized by disgraced God by
Speaker 1: a mercenary. For some reason, they didn't include the mercenary
Speaker 1: God at stated inaccurate. Thank you would like to see
Speaker 1: Adam stand there and count you have a little conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to be the next avatar. Oh what a
Speaker 1: different Uh. Now we've got retro grand amnesia. That's the
Speaker 1: other kind, that's the kind you see in movies a lot. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is where like, yeah, the differentiation between retrograde and
Speaker 1: arrograde is the moment where the incident happened that caused
Speaker 1: you to lose your memories, Like if it was a
Speaker 1: head trauma or something like that. Retrograde amnesia, you totally
Speaker 1: forget everything you know, you ever knew. You'll retain your
Speaker 1: identity usually, uh, and your skills, but I can't remember
Speaker 1: what I did six years ago before the accident. But
Speaker 1: a teragrade amnesia you remember everything before the accident, but
Speaker 1: you lose your short term memory afterwards. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of the difference here. So if somebody dropped a piano
Speaker 1: on your head. From that day forward, you can't remember
Speaker 1: what you did each day, but you still remember your
Speaker 1: whole life before the piano incident. That's in terra grade anisia. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: amazing of you two have made it through that, seriously issues,
Speaker 1: that's kind of incredible. Yeah, that's how you learn to
Speaker 1: play the piano. S Matthew on the head and air
Speaker 1: drops pianos a player piano. Okay, rarer still is psychogenic amnesia,
Speaker 1: which is like the Jason Bourne situation, the sort of
Speaker 1: where am I? Who am I? How can I kill
Speaker 1: someone with a ballpoint pen? I could do that? Um.
Speaker 1: Jennifer tell Rico, who is an assistant professor of psychology
Speaker 1: at Lafayette College, says that born Jason Bourne's amnesia is
Speaker 1: quote grounded in real life experiences. But him forgetting and
Speaker 1: then like slowly retrieving his memories and like remembering throughout
Speaker 1: the movie more and more information. That's more plot device
Speaker 1: than actual reality, right right. Yeah, you'll find a lot
Speaker 1: of neuropsychologists talking about movies and amnesia and what nonsense
Speaker 1: they are. Um. I did find one though, this woman,
Speaker 1: UM Sally Baxendale from England. She says that most of
Speaker 1: these movies are nonsense, but she says three exceptions stand
Speaker 1: out for her. One is a Spanish TV series called
Speaker 1: I Know Who You Are from seventeen. I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with this, but she says it's really well researched, pretty
Speaker 1: good depiction of amnesia. Another, she says is Memento Uh
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan movie from two thousands. She said, that's actually
Speaker 1: pretty accurate, and the way that he cuts it together
Speaker 1: does give you kind of an idea of what it
Speaker 1: would be like to live with that, constantly going what what? What?
Speaker 1: How did I get here? What's happening? Um? The third
Speaker 1: I was quite fascinated, she said, as an accurate portrayal
Speaker 1: of people with memory difficulties and the people who who
Speaker 1: associate with them, is Finding Me, she says. She says
Speaker 1: it's played for laughs a lot, but there's some really
Speaker 1: poignant moments with Dory where she's lost and alone and confused,
Speaker 1: and that the frustration that the other fish have dealing
Speaker 1: with her is really accurate in terms of a depiction
Speaker 1: of how people who live with amnesiac patients feel. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Um, so big ups to Finding Dory. P
Speaker 1: Sherman forty two Wallaby Way, Sitney. Look at that memory
Speaker 1: a single detail about my own friends. I don't know
Speaker 1: my best friend's address, but I can tell you. But
Speaker 1: the main movie that we're here to talk about today
Speaker 1: is the two thousand four romantic comedy starring Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: and Adam Sandler, Fifty First Dates. And Yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: normally tackle fictional romances on this show, although we've thought
Speaker 1: about it. Um, but this is going to lead us
Speaker 1: into a true story of a woman who has Antaro
Speaker 1: grade amnesia and her husband who cares for her. And
Speaker 1: so we're going to get into all that right after
Speaker 1: this commercial break. Welcome back to Ridiculous Romance and tossed
Speaker 1: popcorn to the present. Fifty First Dates. Um, two thousand
Speaker 1: four movie. Uh, we just we just saw for the
Speaker 1: first time the other night. Yeah, in in our heavy
Speaker 1: research for this show. Um, and uh it's quite a
Speaker 1: quite a film. I don't know, are are you guys?
Speaker 1: You guys aren't big. Your your thing is that you're
Speaker 1: not big movie people, right like you? You know, Like,
Speaker 1: so what's your Adam Sandler take? History? And everyone has one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's take. Honestly, we actually haven't discussed this yet. If
Speaker 1: you can believe it, he has not had a film
Speaker 1: on the AH Highlist. Yeah, come on, shocking, Honestly, I
Speaker 1: I love someone who just really addresses how they wish
Speaker 1: to in a very comfortable way. The heck out of that. Um.
Speaker 1: I've seen Fifty First Dates and I've seen his movie
Speaker 1: Click about the role did not see Click surprisingly poignant,
Speaker 1: which is also how I felt about Fifty First Dates,
Speaker 1: actually true, and I've I've heard great things about him
Speaker 1: and Uncut Gems and film I will absolutely never watch
Speaker 1: due today. We haven't done that yet. That's right, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's definitely. It's been on our list for a long time.
Speaker 1: But it's one of those you're like, all right, I
Speaker 1: gotta like year myself up for this. Really got to
Speaker 1: be in a certain state of One time, somebody came
Speaker 1: over to pick something up for my apartment and he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just in the middle of watching Uncut Gems.
Speaker 1: Like what it feels very weird, Like I feel sort
Speaker 1: of invasive seeing you in the middle of experiencing Uncut Gems.
Speaker 1: You should go back take care of that. People keep
Speaker 1: telling me you've got to watch it. It's so stressful.
Speaker 1: That's not You'll feel so bad, so bad, but then
Speaker 1: I guess to the end and you'll feel worse. Right,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to spend my very small amount of
Speaker 1: entertainment hours feel bad and stressed out. Yes, so I
Speaker 1: felt recommending Succession to people and like the very when
Speaker 1: it first came out, I was like, you should watch it.
Speaker 1: It's really good. But also I don't want to make you.
Speaker 1: I mean, your your day might be it's going to
Speaker 1: be a dark end to your day. Yeah. We watched
Speaker 1: Succession too, and it was very true. All right. We
Speaker 1: had to take a break because we were midway through
Speaker 1: season one, like during the election, and it was just like,
Speaker 1: I can't keep watching these things. But we went back
Speaker 1: to it and loved it. Yeah, it was definitely worth it,
Speaker 1: definitely worth it. Myself and Adam Sandler are sort of relationship. Adam,
Speaker 1: I've seen bedtime stories on Accedent. We know that film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he even somehow I saw some
Speaker 1: of that and it was pretty bad. I was like
Speaker 1: an age where I knew it was bad. It was
Speaker 1: like a high school It's like this, I think this
Speaker 1: might not be a good in the movie, but it
Speaker 1: was I don't think people are talking about how good
Speaker 1: Bedtime Stories is. So And then I've seen part of
Speaker 1: fifty First Dates and Dates, yeah, I guessaw the beginning
Speaker 1: and the end. Well yeah, then I saw the trailers
Speaker 1: You've got it's close enough. Yeah, basically the movie. H
Speaker 1: what about you? What's your Adam Sandler take? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was a kid, it was I
Speaker 1: guess Billy Now Happy Gilmore was the first one I saw.
Speaker 1: The Happy Gilmore's It's funny. It's funny, it's a little aggressive,
Speaker 1: it's very loud, um. And that was always my problem
Speaker 1: with Billy Madison is just a lot of screaming, um,
Speaker 1: and that was always too much. But I will say
Speaker 1: that I thought Fifty First Dates was really kind of
Speaker 1: sweet and poignant too. Um. I mean, he's he's got
Speaker 1: that even in what I would say. I've actually seen
Speaker 1: a lot of his movies, I guess, uh, and I
Speaker 1: don't like any of them, like Big Daddy, uh some
Speaker 1: of those, And I was like, he does put heart
Speaker 1: into them. Um, it's just hard because he does these
Speaker 1: like intentionally obnoxious characters a lot. Um. But but you
Speaker 1: know they're sweet. Little NICKI actually surprised me in its sweetness.
Speaker 1: It is hard to watch him do that character for
Speaker 1: ninety minutes, but it's got it's got some heart to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like I like to I loved
Speaker 1: wedding singer um when I was in high school, and
Speaker 1: I liked I like his sweeter ones, I guess more
Speaker 1: than his screaming obnoxious child's men child. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. I think it's a pretty reasonable take. I
Speaker 1: did walk out of Punch Drunk Love that was supposed
Speaker 1: to be his like first, I don't know, serious type
Speaker 1: of or whatever. Yeah, I was like, first, like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try this acting thing, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: really like it, and I just was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. I think I went and saw eight Mile.
Speaker 1: I went to see eight Mile. It's a good switch.
Speaker 1: I didn't regret it at the time. I feel fine
Speaker 1: about it now. So I don't know. Yeah, but this
Speaker 1: movie surprised me because I really definitely saw the trailer
Speaker 1: for this when it came out, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that sounds so creepy that she can't remember him and
Speaker 1: he can do anything. You know, at any time, you
Speaker 1: would not have any idea the next day. That's really
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not watching that ship. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: watching it. Was like, no, they really addressed that. They
Speaker 1: you know, they made it. They made it work well.
Speaker 1: I guess for the listeners real quick who aren't familiar
Speaker 1: with the movie, just to recap, it is about Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler is for some reason at the beginning of the movie,
Speaker 1: a nasty con man lies to women with them and
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen this in years. And then we watched
Speaker 1: the trailer for it before this recording, and I was like,
Speaker 1: because I remember the end of it being very sweet
Speaker 1: and their kind of relationship between the two of them
Speaker 1: being quite sweet, and that's the only thing I held onto.
Speaker 1: And then see him like pretend to be a spy
Speaker 1: and there's like a whole rotating door of white women
Speaker 1: that he's been going out with. What the heck? And
Speaker 1: and Kevin James that one time, So I guess he's
Speaker 1: open to experimentation. Is that what we needed to know
Speaker 1: about Henry? And then that only lasts for like the
Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the movie, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's very sweet and kind and like wants
Speaker 1: to do the right thing all the time, So it's
Speaker 1: it was super weird to me. Couldn't the movie right?
Speaker 1: Made't know that in two thousand four, you know what?
Speaker 1: I think that was? That's true. We were all learning
Speaker 1: as we're unaware that then could just be nice to women.
Speaker 1: I don't think. So. Isn't he like a vet or something?
Speaker 1: I saw him with the wallet. He's a marine vet
Speaker 1: or I don't know, not a not a military marine,
Speaker 1: but he's an if you're a marine and you have
Speaker 1: a dog, he will look at it. He's on it
Speaker 1: an aquarium. Yeah, he's like an aquarium vet um and
Speaker 1: uh and and he meets Drew Barrymore at a cafe
Speaker 1: and she has a made up condition they called it
Speaker 1: in the movie like what was it called? Phelp gold?
Speaker 1: It was something weird, like something right, I guess we
Speaker 1: should have totally invented. But it is a sort of
Speaker 1: version of Aigrain amnesia where every day she wakes up
Speaker 1: and can't remember anything after this car accident that she has.
Speaker 1: She still thinks it's how many how long has it been?
Speaker 1: Have been a year? Been a year? So she still
Speaker 1: thought it was a year before and her dad and brother,
Speaker 1: for some reason, we're like making her relive the same
Speaker 1: day over and over again, so it was always his
Speaker 1: birthday for a year, and she would paint a mural
Speaker 1: and they would paint over it after she was just
Speaker 1: they would replace a newspaper. I was just like, why
Speaker 1: are you doing this? Her brother played by Sean Aston,
Speaker 1: coming straight out of Lord of the Rings, who apparently
Speaker 1: just wanted something very different and he found that. I mean,
Speaker 1: if nothing else was definitely different. He had a mess
Speaker 1: shirts on and stuff long way from the potato stew
Speaker 1: share the Lord Mr Frodo. But interestingly enough, like kind
Speaker 1: of we were talking about with this movie, he is
Speaker 1: this character who I think, ten years earlier, in like
Speaker 1: a nineties movie, would have been the bad guy, like
Speaker 1: this jock asshole, but he's also ultimately very sweet. He's
Speaker 1: just kind of dumb. And I think the only way
Speaker 1: this movie works is that every character is actually incredibly
Speaker 1: sweet at the end of the day, because otherwise, any
Speaker 1: one of them she would be constant under constant threat
Speaker 1: of being taken advantage of, I think, and it only
Speaker 1: works because everyone in the movie is never going to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it's yeah, it was definitely I was like,
Speaker 1: how do I feel like rom com vibes when I'm
Speaker 1: like constantly on the alert inappropriate it. It really is
Speaker 1: a lot of love between all the characters, which is nice,
Speaker 1: but it is truly funny that, like if you get
Speaker 1: in a car crash and then your dad and your
Speaker 1: brother are like, I guess we have to do this
Speaker 1: day over and over again for a year, Like how
Speaker 1: was that possibly the best solution? Exprageous exactly, and the
Speaker 1: fact that it lasted a whole year before anyone else
Speaker 1: came along and said, why don't we try something different?
Speaker 1: I did that for two days exactly. The first time
Speaker 1: I had to repaint a mural, I'd be like, thought this, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not having another pineapple upside down cake. I pretending either, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's definitely get a pineapple for the first time,
Speaker 1: not the seventh time. This week, they watched The Sixth
Speaker 1: Cents every night because that she bought her dad for
Speaker 1: his birthday the vhs of six Cents and they have
Speaker 1: to pretend he's getting it as his gift and then
Speaker 1: watch it every night and pretend they don't know the
Speaker 1: ending twist. There's definitely like the third time I would
Speaker 1: have broken yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, let's just tell her
Speaker 1: the truth. So Adam Sandler comes along, falls in love
Speaker 1: with her, uh, meets her every day uh, and and
Speaker 1: reintroduces himself because he just at first he's I think
Speaker 1: he's trying to prove to himself that he can make
Speaker 1: this girl like him over and over again. But eventually
Speaker 1: he just wants to spend an hour hanging out with her,
Speaker 1: like like like a first date. I guess every day,
Speaker 1: and she almost always goes for it. Um gets a
Speaker 1: little weird into the He kind of manipulates her a
Speaker 1: little bit, like when he ties himself up on the
Speaker 1: side of the road pretending to be kidnapped, knowing that
Speaker 1: she's going to dry I buy waiting for her. He
Speaker 1: gets Rob Schneider if I can pause and talk about
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider in this movie for a second. He was
Speaker 1: doing this weird like brown face and accent Hawaiian accent
Speaker 1: that he's gotten no business. There's no place of origin
Speaker 1: for that accent. It is from all over the world. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable. It was weird. And then he had these
Speaker 1: pineapple like leaves or banana leaves, and he was doing
Speaker 1: some weird dance that I feel like he shouldn't be
Speaker 1: allowed to do right. Yeah, I don't know. In every
Speaker 1: two thousan four film there's a character who now watching it,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I don't think this should be allowed,
Speaker 1: like the whole person. Yeah, today sixty of those characters
Speaker 1: are played by Rob Schneider. Yeah, he seems to really
Speaker 1: take to those roles. Yeah. I wonder what that says anything.
Speaker 1: Um So Yeah, so she she does end up kind
Speaker 1: of falling for him. Day after day. He decides to
Speaker 1: make her a video help her every morning wake up
Speaker 1: and watch it and understand what has happened to her
Speaker 1: her life catch up. Yeah, but she doesn't remember. Some
Speaker 1: days she reacts well to it. Others she reacts less
Speaker 1: well because every day she learns that a year of
Speaker 1: her life has gone by and she doesn't know any
Speaker 1: of it. Um And they end up. It works out.
Speaker 1: It's a rom com. It works out, it works out,
Speaker 1: it's all great. Yeah, although it's so weird when she
Speaker 1: wakes up to watch a tape and finds out that
Speaker 1: yesterday you were in Hawaii, today and you're in the
Speaker 1: Arctic and you have a five year old child. If
Speaker 1: I woke up and that would just I would I
Speaker 1: don't know what I could. I would have to. I
Speaker 1: would need some time like ninety minutes to myself on clothing,
Speaker 1: just like waking up on a boat. That alone would
Speaker 1: be that alone, shocking, terrifying. Right in my own neighborhood
Speaker 1: on a boat, I would shock a different surprise to
Speaker 1: wake up on a boat in West Hollywood. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would really throw me for a little and weirder in Atlanta, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I would like, what wait, what be on the lake somewhere? Um?
Speaker 1: But yeah, and he wins over her dad and brother
Speaker 1: as well, because at first they're like, don't come near her.
Speaker 1: She's got this this memory thing and all you're gonna
Speaker 1: do is be a creep. And then they find out, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not a creep. He's a cool guy. She clearly
Speaker 1: cares about him, so he wins them over. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of cute too that it's sort of almost the
Speaker 1: long term relationship is almost with her family rather than
Speaker 1: her because she can't remember, so I thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting angle for that. But yeah, he
Speaker 1: does sort of date her dad and her brother more
Speaker 1: than he dates her, and it has to Yeah, be
Speaker 1: like I brought flowers, give them to her how it goes.
Speaker 1: It goes you're dating their dad and their brother and
Speaker 1: you know best, and then you choose which one you
Speaker 1: like the best, and you married up and you marry
Speaker 1: that one. You'll see all of them family reunions. It's
Speaker 1: going to be right. It's not weird, not weird at all.
Speaker 1: It's the what was that movie? River runs through it?
Speaker 1: I don't know why is that Brad Pitt movie where
Speaker 1: she basically is every single brother just allegen queenship. He
Speaker 1: got them all all not bad. The only other thing
Speaker 1: I remember about the film that really stuck with me
Speaker 1: was waffles. There's waffles in that movie that looks so good.
Speaker 1: I remember that you only saw part of it. This
Speaker 1: is Sienna brains. Sienna, My brains are very much like
Speaker 1: a ven diagram, and in the middle is waffles. And
Speaker 1: like Smash the NBC show, that's great good venn diagram,
Speaker 1: Waffles is a good thing to fixate on. I feel safe,
Speaker 1: delicious breakfast food. I'll say I'll do a little uh
Speaker 1: inside baseball here because it gave me a little PTSD
Speaker 1: because I used to work props on movies and um
Speaker 1: watching and a breakfast scene is just going to be
Speaker 1: the worst day of your year. And watching her with
Speaker 1: those little waffle houses, I'm like, you know, they had
Speaker 1: sixteen to those waffle houses off camera and somebody spent
Speaker 1: the whole night making them. And it's I don't know
Speaker 1: how Drew Barrymore is, but some actors would be like,
Speaker 1: these waffles need to be hot. I'm not doing this
Speaker 1: scene if they're not, even if she's not eating them. Uh,
Speaker 1: lots of stuff like that. But but you know, they
Speaker 1: did a good job with it. In perspective, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So whatever ever suffered for it, it was worth it.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly whoever it sucked for, thank you, Thank you
Speaker 1: for your service. And I will say they were she
Speaker 1: They were pretty much dry waffles, which is a huge help.
Speaker 1: And that might have been Adam Sandler, I've heard is
Speaker 1: like one of the best people to work for in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Takes care of everyone. Apparently this movie itself was originally
Speaker 1: written to take place in Seattle, and he said let's
Speaker 1: go to Hawaii instead, and writing movies that take place
Speaker 1: in Hawaii just so he can bring all his friends
Speaker 1: out there and have fun making a movie. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he was like, no Syrup that's too hard in the
Speaker 1: props people. Whenever there's somebody who's kind of like they
Speaker 1: have weird characters or there, their stuff could be obnoxious.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a lot of his stuff. I know
Speaker 1: it's like people like it. But since he plays a
Speaker 1: lot of screaming little boys, I'm like, he must be
Speaker 1: really good to work with because he's made a lot
Speaker 1: of movies, and so there are people who could be
Speaker 1: screaming little boys on screen and then also screaming little
Speaker 1: boys off screen, and the successful ones, You're like, I
Speaker 1: bet they're great. Yeah, I bet they call for dry
Speaker 1: waffles on set. Absolutely, Like, don't suck this up too much,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to make the props guy make
Speaker 1: a whole other one tired. Let him goes someone shaking
Speaker 1: in the corner, surrounded by waffle scraps. Ye've been there.
Speaker 1: Don't make another house a tower this time. Why. I'm
Speaker 1: not an architect. I'm just a waffle maker. I'm just
Speaker 1: a humble studio waffle maker. The script we found out
Speaker 1: was originally called fifty Feet Kisses. That's where Drew Barrymore
Speaker 1: says several times in the movie, can we have another
Speaker 1: first kiss? Um? Oh, there's nothing like a first kiss
Speaker 1: every time. Um. I read two things. One I AMDB
Speaker 1: Trivia said they changed it because they didn't want to
Speaker 1: confuse people with Drew Barrymore's movie Never Been Kissed. Um,
Speaker 1: But the director said that the marketing department found that
Speaker 1: the word kisses was turning off male audiences. Men don't kissing.
Speaker 1: From my experience one time, I mean, I'll share it
Speaker 1: on the pot. This is a romantic policy, bring it.
Speaker 1: I went on a hinge date last summer and the
Speaker 1: only thing really that we did was kiss And then
Speaker 1: later he was like, I'm just not feeling it romantically
Speaker 1: all the kissing, and I was like what My friend
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, I love kissing non romantically. What what
Speaker 1: are you saying? Professional kissing? Very business like? Would have
Speaker 1: hated that title. Yeah, first dates. I'm in tender men
Speaker 1: kissing right, fascinating? Well, I guess what are we? Three
Speaker 1: to one women to men? Is that the gender ratio
Speaker 1: of this current zoom? Yeah? Okay, so Eli as a man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: could you see fifty kisses? I mean technically I didn't
Speaker 1: see fifty first dates for a long time. I my
Speaker 1: choice the title wasn't what was maybe the group was
Speaker 1: not being asked the right questions, right, yea, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need more information about what was being asked to the room,
Speaker 1: what was being showed in the room. But I will
Speaker 1: say I never saw, never been kissed. Um what kissed
Speaker 1: movies have I seen? I saw? Um? No, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to I didn't see kissed the girls. I didn't see.
Speaker 1: I can't think of other movies that have kissed in
Speaker 1: the title. Maybe maybe you do hate maybe I do
Speaker 1: hate kisses I have. Do you think more men would
Speaker 1: have seen it? This is allowed to ask the women
Speaker 1: would have seen it if it was fifty first six,
Speaker 1: first six, probably right waiting into it because kisses, they're like,
Speaker 1: oh oh sex, no kissing, very pretty woman about it,
Speaker 1: kissing sex all met first bang bang, Yes, well that's
Speaker 1: weirst experience that on our podcast. We both got bangs. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have to clarify. Yeah, oh, and yes, you can
Speaker 1: say anything in this podcast. We're explicit every episode. So
Speaker 1: oh great, great, Yeah, get ready say your favorite curse
Speaker 1: for now. She's been holding onto that for a while
Speaker 1: every hour. Fair, that's her weird anything she forgets if
Speaker 1: she said it, yeah, I better go for it. Just
Speaker 1: she'll forget everything. If she doesn't say asked once an hour,
Speaker 1: let's make that movie. If we could just be making
Speaker 1: shut up, let's do it. So okay, So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this movie is about a sweet couple.
Speaker 1: A woman who can't remember who wakes up every day
Speaker 1: realizing that she's spend dating Adam Sandler for a while. Um,
Speaker 1: and one day wakes up and realizes that she has
Speaker 1: a five year old son with him or daughter is
Speaker 1: a daughter? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. There is a horror movie
Speaker 1: version of this out there, which she points out in
Speaker 1: the movie, but we don't see. Is the while she
Speaker 1: was pregnant. Can you imagine waking up pregnant and have
Speaker 1: to like watch a freaking videotape that's explaining to you,
Speaker 1: oh why you are suddenly have alien like aliens have
Speaker 1: a trauma. The day you give birth would be the
Speaker 1: most horrifying. Bay you wake up and they have to
Speaker 1: take you to the hospital and you were like, what,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, don't don't worry, You'll forget it
Speaker 1: tomorrow your boat and are pregnant, Like that's too much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what if, like, are you sure I signed up
Speaker 1: for this? Show me a tape of me saying yesterday,
Speaker 1: that is what I need to say of consent going on.
Speaker 1: What if it's one of those multi day labors too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she could forget after she falls asleep, wake up and
Speaker 1: you're already in labor. Does it is her? Is her
Speaker 1: memory thing? It resets when she goes to bed, right roughly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and after she went to sleep, Yeah, she would wake
Speaker 1: up the next day. Just keep her awake. I wondered,
Speaker 1: what happens? What about naps? She forgets a little, she
Speaker 1: forgets that morning she remembers going down for the nap,
Speaker 1: right right? Um, I will say I think the Walrus
Speaker 1: stole the show. The Wals name his name Jacko, and
Speaker 1: it's Adam Sandler's best friend. Besides because his other best
Speaker 1: friends Rob Schneiders. Anyway, Jackie's best friend. He's a better listener,
Speaker 1: gives great so you might there here is a world
Speaker 1: in which Drew Barrymore wakes up nine months pregnant, married
Speaker 1: to a man whose best friend is a Walrus exactly
Speaker 1: and Rob Schneider problematic person of Rob Schneider. Things you say,
Speaker 1: the worst it gets. That is a horror right there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: happen to me. I really don't want the don't want that.
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say please. Well. Fortunately, the
Speaker 1: near psychologist Sally Backs and Deli mentioned earlier, says the
Speaker 1: movie falls into Hollywood traditions of pretty much picking up
Speaker 1: an amnesia condition in the plot device. She also says,
Speaker 1: quote some viewers might envy Miss Barrymore's ability to forget
Speaker 1: her romantic encounters with Mr Sandler. You know, you were
Speaker 1: a critic of Diana asked me while we were watching it,
Speaker 1: because I had said, I you know, it must be
Speaker 1: really shocking to you know, your true Barrymore and you
Speaker 1: wake up and you realize that your long term boyfriend
Speaker 1: that you didn't know about is Adam Sandler. And she said,
Speaker 1: would you you know, would you be upset if you
Speaker 1: woke up and found out that I was your wife
Speaker 1: and you had no idea? Oh my god, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not Adam's risky game to play. I know, Well
Speaker 1: we've been together for a while, so you gotta again
Speaker 1: keep the risk, you know. Yeah, you got to give
Speaker 1: somebody an opportunity to say something that's really gonna upset you.
Speaker 1: If I woke up next to you and it was
Speaker 1: just a strange man in my bed. I would freak out.
Speaker 1: I think I would freak out. And then also we've
Speaker 1: moved a few times. It would be a new house.
Speaker 1: Would I remember my dog? That's very upsetting. But we
Speaker 1: might finally watch our wedding video, which we've never watched.
Speaker 1: So that's right. We're very bad at that. We haven't forgetting.
Speaker 1: We just didn't get cooked together as like a narrative
Speaker 1: or what happens in a wedding video. Great, I don't
Speaker 1: know video. We have no idea. Hopefully with me on
Speaker 1: top of the piano, but I doubt I think he
Speaker 1: was gone by then. No, I saw you on the
Speaker 1: top of the piano. No, the videographer rapher. But we
Speaker 1: did ask a friend of ours, so he might have.
Speaker 1: Actually he did actually actually reach out, was like, did
Speaker 1: you watch it? Is a good I hope it's good.
Speaker 1: And we're like, oh, yeah, it's great. I never did
Speaker 1: watch it, So I'm like, what if he did something special?
Speaker 1: He like asked all our friends to say nice things
Speaker 1: about us. Oh, that's very sweet. Is truly funny that
Speaker 1: you've never watched that? Watch it? You watch it sometime
Speaker 1: and it'll feel great. Look at young name. It was
Speaker 1: not that long ago. When we're when we're like hanging
Speaker 1: on by a thread, things aren't going so good, we'll
Speaker 1: be like, let's let's watch this one. Things start going downhill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wake up next to you and don't scream. I'm not
Speaker 1: happy about it. As soon as one of your friends
Speaker 1: of Walrus, you've got to turn on that video. There's
Speaker 1: a Walrus poly fuel in this movie where because Jacko
Speaker 1: has three girlfriends, you all live together in harmony. And
Speaker 1: I would also watch that movie. It's like more of
Speaker 1: more of this love Island, but with Walrus. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's so like kisses to each other. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: ideas I'm saying at Animal Planet Love hear us out
Speaker 1: Hot British Walrus is go to Mayorka for six weeks.
Speaker 1: Amazing idea for you. We're going to make so much money. Well,
Speaker 1: all right, well we've we've we've gone on about fifty
Speaker 1: first states. But we do have an actual ridiculous romance
Speaker 1: that we should get to. Um, So let's take a
Speaker 1: little break and then let's come back and talk about
Speaker 1: these true stories. A couple of true stories that kind
Speaker 1: of mirror this movie a little bit. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that right after this. All right, everybody, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show. Alright, So, as we've said, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of info out there. The fifty First Dates is based
Speaker 1: on this true story, but it definitely is not actually
Speaker 1: based on this story. Um, There's been a few similar incidents,
Speaker 1: but the movie doesn't parallel like anybody's story directly. They
Speaker 1: definitely took many a liberty with this tale. Most of
Speaker 1: the other stories of this type of MMGIA I found
Speaker 1: a lot of them were in the UK. Um, nobody
Speaker 1: Nobody hanging out on the beach in Hawaii, which sounds
Speaker 1: like a way better place. I mean, no no judgment
Speaker 1: to the UK, who we love, but but it's Hawaii,
Speaker 1: Hawaiian beach. If I got to be dealing with some ship,
Speaker 1: it's not not a bad place. It was a nice
Speaker 1: lady making the spam and eggs every day crisis in
Speaker 1: the UK and let me kind of deal with it
Speaker 1: in the ring the local cafe and then stopped by
Speaker 1: the pub. Yeah, I should I let the scenery get
Speaker 1: ahead of me there because actually, not that you mentioned it,
Speaker 1: the idea of being trapped on a tiny island dealing
Speaker 1: with a crisis does sound a little worse. Let me
Speaker 1: on a bigger island. Yeah. Um. But there is one
Speaker 1: similar story about Michelle Philipotts from Lincolnshire, a region in England,
Speaker 1: and Michelle was born in nineteen sixty five, when she
Speaker 1: was twenty years old, she was in a serious motorcycle
Speaker 1: accident and hit her head. Then just five years later
Speaker 1: in she was in a serious car accident and she
Speaker 1: sustained more head injuries. I know. I'm like, maybe we
Speaker 1: don't motor around anymore, and maybe we ride a bus.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the trauma came on gradually over
Speaker 1: the course of a few years, and by nineteen four
Speaker 1: she was diagnosed with epilepsy as a result of these
Speaker 1: two accidents, so she, you know, is dealing with seizures.
Speaker 1: She started to become more and more forgetful. Eventually she
Speaker 1: even lost her job because she spent an entire day
Speaker 1: just photo copying the same document over and over again.
Speaker 1: Damn yeah. Eventually her memory deteriorated where she couldn't remember
Speaker 1: anything passed the year nineteen ninety four. This was interregrade amnesia, which,
Speaker 1: like we said before, affected mostly her episodic declarative memory,
Speaker 1: so she could still remember who she was. Uh, she
Speaker 1: remember what her life was like before the accident. She
Speaker 1: remembers meeting her husband Ian. They met in the same
Speaker 1: year as the motorcycle accident, but they didn't get married
Speaker 1: until after she lost her memory. So she knows who
Speaker 1: he is every day. She knows she's dating him, but
Speaker 1: she doesn't know they're married. Um, do you think a
Speaker 1: wedding video? He says, he's got an album he shows
Speaker 1: her every morning. I get some photos. That's pretty close
Speaker 1: to it will eventually have to do when I lose
Speaker 1: my memory. And in her day to day Michelle leaves
Speaker 1: post it notes for herself everywhere, and she's now able
Speaker 1: to leave herself helpful reminders on her cell phone these days, fortunately,
Speaker 1: But yeah, she she must be very I mean, do
Speaker 1: you wake up and think it's and then someone's like,
Speaker 1: look at this magic rectangle, like suddenly going from no
Speaker 1: cell phones to like an iPhone? All right, that's a
Speaker 1: little bit interesting. She just she has to retrain herself
Speaker 1: on it every day or something. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: got to be so hard. That's like there's a trend
Speaker 1: joke online of like if you gave Abraham Lincoln us
Speaker 1: write he would die instantly. People just can't process today
Speaker 1: from the past like a McDonald immediately. Did you ever
Speaker 1: watch the show Good Omens? Yes? No, read the book there.
Speaker 1: I love the prophet. The witch in that story is
Speaker 1: from like the sixteen hundreds or something, and she could
Speaker 1: see the future and they have all her predictions, but
Speaker 1: they don't make any sense because she doesn't know what
Speaker 1: she's looking at. So she's like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: looks like some kind of big metal. She didn't even
Speaker 1: know what metal is, so she would just have to
Speaker 1: describe what she was looking at, and they're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out as time goes on where they belong. I
Speaker 1: just think that's makes so much sense for fortune telling,
Speaker 1: because how would you years in the future and have
Speaker 1: any idea what you were looking at. Like there's something
Speaker 1: called a sprite. I don't know that is, don't drink
Speaker 1: it looks like there's a lot of energy in it.
Speaker 1: Energy energy. It's heresy. I do love you know, it's
Speaker 1: very funny. Even now, is such a change? Yeah? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean you got to explain to her every day
Speaker 1: every day, I don't know, every very day. First things, First,
Speaker 1: I know you live in the UK, but this is
Speaker 1: the really most important thing. You start with the Alamo.
Speaker 1: We'll go She hasna the Alamo. She's remember that somebody
Speaker 1: called the doctor. That's all we ask. We had one
Speaker 1: job about the Alamo. Now you can't even do that.
Speaker 1: So poor Michelle's trying to tap up on her cell
Speaker 1: phone every day, figure that shut out and figure out
Speaker 1: who serious. And she and Ian sat down for an
Speaker 1: interview with Matt Lower on Today on the Today Show
Speaker 1: in yeah, you have to tell her about I know
Speaker 1: about Matt Lower, surely wishing everybody still thought. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love this interview subject. She has no idea and
Speaker 1: by the end of the interview she had forgotten Matt
Speaker 1: Lower's name. So hopefully we'll all be there one day.
Speaker 1: Let's all get a little bit of Michelle's energy on
Speaker 1: this one. She wakes up every day thinking Bill Clinton
Speaker 1: is the US president, Ace of Base is hottest music
Speaker 1: on the charts, and everybody is lined up around the
Speaker 1: block to see Forest Gump in theaters. That's a bit
Speaker 1: of a mixed bag for all Michelle. Um. Fortunately she
Speaker 1: got a surgery in two thousand five which did stop
Speaker 1: up the seizures for the most part. Um, but the
Speaker 1: memory conditions themselves don't really improve. So at this point
Speaker 1: she has to wake up every day and kind of
Speaker 1: just fill in the last eighteen years of her life.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. She said that some moments stick better
Speaker 1: than others. Actually that'd be eight years it would. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all got very young for a second there. She
Speaker 1: says some moments stick better than others. For example, like
Speaker 1: she would go on the Today Show and she said
Speaker 1: she would have a memory of having done that. She's like,
Speaker 1: this will probably stick. I'll have an idea that I
Speaker 1: came to New York and went on this big interview.
Speaker 1: But while she's in New York seeing as individual landmarks,
Speaker 1: they would show her pictures like you were at the
Speaker 1: Madison Square gardens yesterday, and she's like, nah, sure, okay
Speaker 1: if you say so, and doesn't remember that. But is
Speaker 1: it like a big event thing maybe or something that
Speaker 1: I guess so enter your long term memory in a
Speaker 1: different way. I don't know. I don't know, because that
Speaker 1: seems like I tried to travel, so it's like a
Speaker 1: big event. So maybe that's it thinks a little better,
Speaker 1: really significant, I don't I know so little about the brain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like we should know more about our own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brain is not interested in it. It's barely functioning
Speaker 1: and that's all it needs to do. There is. For
Speaker 1: a while she can remember like series of numbers, but
Speaker 1: she has now gotten up to being able to memorize
Speaker 1: six numbers in a row, she said, by picturing punching
Speaker 1: them into a keypad, so she can remember not the numbers,
Speaker 1: but the pattern that that helped her to it. Which
Speaker 1: I get that too, because if someone tells me a
Speaker 1: phone number, I have to envision dialing it in on
Speaker 1: a keypad. That's how I remember. It's just the pattern. No,
Speaker 1: that's just me. Yeah, No, I think I'm more of
Speaker 1: a rote memorizer. Like I'd have to stay it a
Speaker 1: few times and write it down a few times and
Speaker 1: then it might stick. But I couldn't picture of a
Speaker 1: pat that would never work for me like a lot
Speaker 1: I was due to do. And then I went off
Speaker 1: to a whole other Has she been able to work?
Speaker 1: She has not been working. And they talked in a
Speaker 1: in an interview about uh, the challenges with dealing with
Speaker 1: the UK disability program and how they've you know, kind
Speaker 1: of gotten it and then lost it and had to
Speaker 1: fight to get it back again a few times. Um, which,
Speaker 1: of course, living here in the US, just even having
Speaker 1: the option for it sounds like a right very happy
Speaker 1: for them than this. Uh yeah, yeah, that was something
Speaker 1: I did like about the movie was that he was
Speaker 1: so like, you, you don't have to cut her off
Speaker 1: from a lot of life just because she has a disability.
Speaker 1: She can still get married, she can still have kids,
Speaker 1: she can still have a full life, and we can
Speaker 1: figure it out. Like I did really like that message,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say in the film. And it
Speaker 1: was also very frustrating to be like, well, they got
Speaker 1: married and that's great, but in a mary, actually people
Speaker 1: with disabilities lose their benefits if they get married. Yea, often, yes,
Speaker 1: they can't. That's actually there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: whole like there's no marriage equality in America yet because
Speaker 1: disabled people cannot get married without losing their benefits there,
Speaker 1: especially if if two disabled people want to marry each other,
Speaker 1: they certainly can't because they have no other you know,
Speaker 1: income talk. It's just self fustrated. So yeah, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's cool that she got married to him and everything.
Speaker 1: It's just too bad that you might not see that
Speaker 1: in real life in America at least, what does the
Speaker 1: government think happens if you have a disability and then
Speaker 1: get married, right, And I like that that d is
Speaker 1: going to do it for you. I guess, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, your your spouse's problem. And if you
Speaker 1: both have live on disability benefits, you shouldn't be together.
Speaker 1: You're not a whole person. I don't I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's like that so dehumanizing to say, like,
Speaker 1: I don't deserve every other, you know, every option that's
Speaker 1: available to me. Yeah, I was gonna say though, talking
Speaker 1: about when she she's working in the movie, Drew Barrymore's
Speaker 1: character is working like as an art teacher at the end,
Speaker 1: and Adam Sandler has this idea that she remembers him.
Speaker 1: Now she goes he goes to see her, and she
Speaker 1: doesn't know who he is really, but she takes him
Speaker 1: into a room and she has painted hundreds of paintings
Speaker 1: of Adam Sandler. And what's amazing is that they're all
Speaker 1: in very distinct, different artistic styles. So I'm like, she
Speaker 1: is a master of every made a bust of Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler's face and neck and shoulder. There's like, you know,
Speaker 1: classical realism and Cubism and all these things professional. I
Speaker 1: just made a bust of Adam Sandler and I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I don't know why. I think I'm very sick.
Speaker 1: Is happening, something is clear. She also played it really
Speaker 1: cool when he walked in this man that she's been
Speaker 1: mysteriously painting for. There's a bust of you in the band.
Speaker 1: I've been expecting you. Did I make you? Didn't dream
Speaker 1: you to life? It's another one, well, Michelle. Philip Potts
Speaker 1: is her husband. Ian is kind of the real Adam
Speaker 1: Sandler in the most complimentary way. We didn't say that
Speaker 1: because he did stay with Michelle this whole time, after
Speaker 1: both of her accidents and after all of her issues
Speaker 1: with her memory and stuff. He married her despite you know,
Speaker 1: the challenges of her condition, and he said, quote, it
Speaker 1: can be frustrating for me, but I have to be
Speaker 1: patient and understand and accept that she struggles to remember.
Speaker 1: I have to keep calm because I love her. She
Speaker 1: still remembers when we first met, but it's the day
Speaker 1: to day things she struggles to recall. So he's got
Speaker 1: to just constantly be like, you know, yesterday you promised
Speaker 1: to I don't know why I let you promise anything.
Speaker 1: You promised to do that thing today. That's really sweet.
Speaker 1: I know, it's nice. They sound like a good couple. Um,
Speaker 1: they've been doing this for a while now, I know.
Speaker 1: And I did wonder that about fifty first dates because
Speaker 1: the first time we see her tape about her condition,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna fill you in on everything you've
Speaker 1: missed so far, and I'm like, don't doesn't it as
Speaker 1: time goes on, that tapes so long, she's gonna take
Speaker 1: all day to watch it and then she's gonna miss
Speaker 1: a day if we're like, but another great thing, you know,
Speaker 1: as smartphones show up and you can just take quick videos,
Speaker 1: that's gonna make it so much easier, right, having a
Speaker 1: full on video camera every day, like film myself saying yes,
Speaker 1: you are married to Adam Sandler. It's okay. You like it.
Speaker 1: You like it for some reason. Yeah. Actually that does
Speaker 1: bring me into another couple, this woman, Nicky Pegram and
Speaker 1: her husband Chris dealing with a similar situation, also a
Speaker 1: British couple. Um Nicky slipped and hit her head on
Speaker 1: a metal pole and lost her short term memory after that,
Speaker 1: and she did an interview on Good Morning Britain in
Speaker 1: a year later where she discusses the journal that she
Speaker 1: has to keep every day, and what's really crazy to
Speaker 1: me is she had to write in that journal on
Speaker 1: the first page it says, Chris is not lying to
Speaker 1: you about anything, so she's got to tell herself every day,
Speaker 1: like listen, it's you're gonna think he's manipulating you or something,
Speaker 1: but he's not. This is all true whenever he tells you,
Speaker 1: which is so scary to me. Well, and even in
Speaker 1: the movie, she has a journal where she's writing to
Speaker 1: herself and she says, it's like I'm telling myself instead
Speaker 1: of being told, and I prefer it. But then she
Speaker 1: completely erases their entire relationship by throwing out every part
Speaker 1: of her journal that mentions him. How weird to do
Speaker 1: that to yourself or have the ability to do that
Speaker 1: to somebody. That's crazy. And then he helped her do
Speaker 1: it in the movie, he helped you do it, which
Speaker 1: I was like, that's really painful breakup, like you straight
Speaker 1: up to existence from the life. But that movie that also,
Speaker 1: like the movie had a lot of interesting things about
Speaker 1: kind of that sort of consent because she just trusted that.
Speaker 1: She said, if I'm breaking up with you, I'm trusting
Speaker 1: that you're going to agree to that and not show
Speaker 1: up tomorrow and tell me that this never happened, which
Speaker 1: is you know, again that movie only works with everyone
Speaker 1: being a good person because you just sort of no, Okay,
Speaker 1: well he's not going to show up tomorrow and pretend
Speaker 1: that never happened. He asks at one point, what if
Speaker 1: I just do that? And she says, you know, I
Speaker 1: think she just says you won't. He's like, yeah, I won't. Well,
Speaker 1: at least her dad and brother there to like help
Speaker 1: with that a little bit. But if she was alone
Speaker 1: and single and like no family around, yeah, she would
Speaker 1: have to really hope for the best situation. Yeah, this woman,
Speaker 1: Nikki in England, she said she has a really hard
Speaker 1: time reading that journal every day. Again, like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: harder than others. She even said during that interview, She's like,
Speaker 1: I only slept a couple of hours last night, so
Speaker 1: I can still kind of remember yesterday, so I guess
Speaker 1: it is like a really hard reset during sleep. Um.
Speaker 1: But but they said that their doctors told them there
Speaker 1: is a possibility that she will just be sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch one day and suddenly remember everything. It's not likely,
Speaker 1: and it's more likely that she'll it'll never come back,
Speaker 1: but apparently that's they've told her that's a possibility. Now.
Speaker 1: That would be an experience. I would pay like a
Speaker 1: stimulation chamber for We're just sitting there one day and
Speaker 1: suddenly a bunch of memories come flooding into your brain.
Speaker 1: That's got to be a very weird. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: want it for my real life, but I would do
Speaker 1: it once and like to stimulate. Like I was not
Speaker 1: remember a lot of things. I'm like, I think, actually
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, don't love it. I'm going to assume
Speaker 1: my brain decided for a reason memories that one. Unless
Speaker 1: you can pick a genre of memories to come rushing back,
Speaker 1: like real slapper moments from the past where you were
Speaker 1: like this is great. Only those you'll just get hit
Speaker 1: by on the couch or what if I don't know
Speaker 1: if you'll ever saw a total recall the Arnold movie
Speaker 1: from the eighties. He uh, there's this that The setup
Speaker 1: of that movie is there's a service where you can
Speaker 1: go have memories of a vacation implanted in your head,
Speaker 1: so it feels so you're sort of living it in
Speaker 1: real time during the procedure, and you wake up with
Speaker 1: the memory of the vacation and he chooses a spy
Speaker 1: mission on Mars, and then you don't know the whole movie,
Speaker 1: if it's really happening or if it's just a It's great.
Speaker 1: But I think about that. I'm like, what if I
Speaker 1: could just think I have a memory, like a fabricated,
Speaker 1: really cool memory. I spoke to a near a psychologist
Speaker 1: once about my clinically shitty memory and she said I.
Speaker 1: I asked her as like, can you work on, you know,
Speaker 1: getting your old memories back? And she said it's we
Speaker 1: don't really push for it because you can't trust them.
Speaker 1: So whatever you develop is probably not even what really
Speaker 1: happened anyway. That's the weird strange so because they even
Speaker 1: say if when you do remember something, the more the
Speaker 1: more you tell the story of the memory, the more
Speaker 1: you're creating a false memory in place of the real thing.
Speaker 1: High school psychology is rushing back to me right now.
Speaker 1: It's long term, potentially a psychopathic memory. The simulations I'm
Speaker 1: on Mars. Oh my god, you all seen this? Um
Speaker 1: the Snapchat filter that makes it look like you're crying
Speaker 1: for the TikTok. It's incredibly funny. I saw that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is I can't We can't trust anything anymore.
Speaker 1: We can't trust our memories and video documentation is out
Speaker 1: the window. Nothing is real, So you might as well
Speaker 1: just go with whatever your memory, you have the flow
Speaker 1: you exactly chill out, put a filter on while the
Speaker 1: world ends. Who my aunt Kathie, who listens to this podcast,
Speaker 1: so she'll hear this? Uh they did? Um her my cousin,
Speaker 1: her daughter did a video of her getting her birthday
Speaker 1: cake and it was the first time I'd seen this filter,
Speaker 1: so I genuinely thought it was real. And she is
Speaker 1: just weeping. She answered this store bought in a box
Speaker 1: birthday cake, and I was like, wow, she was really
Speaker 1: touched this cake cake. But she showed the full video
Speaker 1: and just for a second as she turns her head,
Speaker 1: it like cuts back to her real face smiling, laughing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's the most haunting thing. Oh yeah, handle it.
Speaker 1: We are inching so close to just living in a
Speaker 1: black mirror episode where yes, the thing is real. At
Speaker 1: least give me a spy mission to Mars or something
Speaker 1: cool right to live in. I'm good to go Buffle
Speaker 1: apartment waffles after this, I really want to waffle. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking, yeah, they're so good. A Barney's beener
Speaker 1: Ether shouts out to local Barney's been. It's like you're
Speaker 1: putting in my dress. There's not waffles in there. There's
Speaker 1: waffles in there. We're gonna get a picture of my
Speaker 1: l list right now this year. But there's no parking. Ok,
Speaker 1: I assume there's no You just have to move within
Speaker 1: walking distance where and they're parking on Apparently there's parking
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Are we talking? This is west where I look?
Speaker 1: So I just walked there. That's because you've never had
Speaker 1: a car, because I've never parked. That's like I've never
Speaker 1: thought about it. I really don't feel that I have
Speaker 1: established some object permanence in some ways, where like if
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, it's not real, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. It's great being a co host
Speaker 1: of someone who, uh, who doesn't really remember anything. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you feel this way, Diana, right, because
Speaker 1: when I do remember something, Leanna will be so impressed like,
Speaker 1: how do you know? How are you? How are you
Speaker 1: sure that we did talk about this in the episode,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because I remember doing that. I impressed
Speaker 1: myself sometimes because it's like Diana will say, I don't
Speaker 1: think we've seen that movie, and I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: know that we have. Actually remember this. It's rare. With
Speaker 1: some things. I have a very good memory, but with
Speaker 1: the other thing, like sometimes with movies, I'm like, well, anyway,
Speaker 1: that was that happened? Putting that somewhere else past. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hold onto very little information, just like almost anything
Speaker 1: that's said to me, I will not. But you're so
Speaker 1: productive and like efficient efficient. I think Sienna remembers everything
Speaker 1: and it takes her two hours to send a team
Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, remember so he's done in the same
Speaker 1: email to the same person a hundred times. Documents like
Speaker 1: you just sent this five minutes ago, had time to respond.
Speaker 1: I could. Information stays pretty well with me, but events
Speaker 1: are like it never happened. Yeah, it's weird. I can
Speaker 1: remember lines like if I have to memorize lines for something, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can do. It was super quick, and I can
Speaker 1: hold onto those. But significant travel moments, family memories, nothing
Speaker 1: we honeymooned. We had an amazing honeymoon. Honeymoon alert because
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we were in Europe. We did a whole
Speaker 1: backpacking thing. We're there for a while and I know
Speaker 1: that we did, but that, yeah, that is it sucks
Speaker 1: to because it was Europe. Was totally worth remembering. But
Speaker 1: we did do a lot of musing and they kind
Speaker 1: of they do kind of smear together in my brain
Speaker 1: actually tell you you know day we were irritated by
Speaker 1: which tour group at which but it definitely happened multiple times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember getting kicked out of a loof you got
Speaker 1: kicked out of It was closing time and without a
Speaker 1: good story. You know the French, you know how they
Speaker 1: are to make it so very very closed their businesses.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so close to the paintings I wanted
Speaker 1: to see, and we're like they're right there, and there's
Speaker 1: these cards shooting us out. No no, no, no no
Speaker 1: no no no biento. Yeah, yeah exactly. And for me
Speaker 1: to go home and make love to my wife. That's
Speaker 1: really hard. I'm so sorry to you when it closed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's we we live a challenged life. Yeah, it wasn't really.
Speaker 1: He had to write about it in his journal, but
Speaker 1: it got over every day writing a one man show
Speaker 1: about it. Struggle. We need more than ever's more. One
Speaker 1: man shows a real dirt about going to hear us.
Speaker 1: It's a unique experience. My perspective is valuable. People need
Speaker 1: to hear that straight white male perspective of being in Europe.
Speaker 1: It's really important. That's okay. I went to the Rob
Speaker 1: Rob Schneider School of Acting. I'll pert some accents in there.
Speaker 1: It'll be great. I'll do my own diversity. You're welcome, diversity.
Speaker 1: Could you try it again, but more diverse. We really
Speaker 1: care well. We have taken up a lot of your time.
Speaker 1: We're so glad you guys came on the show today
Speaker 1: to talk about this movie. This these couples, this crazy situation,
Speaker 1: and yeah, thank you so much. They're dealing with Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really fun. We've got to do this again.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be another movie out there. I will say
Speaker 1: we I mean, I love a movie, but we have
Speaker 1: not seen the top underlist ourselves. You've seen a better
Speaker 1: experience than any film on the A F I List.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on recordings. It's like com We
Speaker 1: definitely slip into our like Marvel tangents a lot on
Speaker 1: this show too. Just have a little segment Marvel Alert
Speaker 1: Marvel alerts exactly. I did have fun listening to you
Speaker 1: guys Tear apart Et. That was the first episode of
Speaker 1: years I listened to and I was like, wow, et
Speaker 1: finally getting the treatment. And that guy a little puppets
Speaker 1: sucked up little he's in my closet. Another Drew Barrymore film,
Speaker 1: Full Circle. Yeah, she's out there. She's you know what,
Speaker 1: she was the heart of this. She got me tear.
Speaker 1: She got me tear when she first found out, and
Speaker 1: then she had to really do some acting there, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was pretty good, Drew. You went
Speaker 1: to your knees on that dock, and I felt that
Speaker 1: we we briefly saw that scene. Siana was like, I'm
Speaker 1: skipping to exactly the midpoint of that scene. I've seen
Speaker 1: the beginning. And then, by the way, this movie is
Speaker 1: free on YouTube. I like to plug that the full movie,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is out there. I knew i'd seen
Speaker 1: the beginning in the end, so I just had to
Speaker 1: check out the middle, and I think I got it.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's a story about the beginning? Middle and end,
Speaker 1: you've seen it. You don't have to watch in that order.
Speaker 1: The middle beginning. Now it's like you're watching Memnto, the
Speaker 1: Memento version of Yeah. Got a friend Jason who's been
Speaker 1: on the show before, and he's he's got a philosophy
Speaker 1: that you should be able to watch twenty minutes of
Speaker 1: any movie and get it and at any point in
Speaker 1: the movie, any twenty minute chunk, and you should have
Speaker 1: seen enough. That feels insane to me. But we sort
Speaker 1: of have the opposite take, where about a lot of
Speaker 1: these classics, we feel like you could easily cut forty
Speaker 1: five minutes to an hour and we would still understand
Speaker 1: what you're trying to say. Yeah, you would get everything
Speaker 1: you were trying to do absolutely done. Or hottest take
Speaker 1: is that The Godfather could have been thirty minutes, and
Speaker 1: people get mad about that, But I think that's a compliment.
Speaker 1: I can't explain how, but I think it is we
Speaker 1: could honor your movie in a way that people actually
Speaker 1: would be able to watch. Yeah, I get it. I
Speaker 1: get a bit of a less of a time commitment.
Speaker 1: They still get to os of a director's cut, like
Speaker 1: viewers two of The Godfather. The task popcorn cut. Remember
Speaker 1: those illustrated classics versions of classic books. It's just that, yeah, exactly, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: are indigestible the God Dad, God Dad. I'm ready. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to watch it. I would also watch it the
Speaker 1: fifty first States trailer as a horror movie. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like somebody put the Cats trailer to the music from
Speaker 1: the trailer for us, like the very slow down, there's
Speaker 1: five on it. If you just take that music, can
Speaker 1: put it on the fifty first States trailer verifying, so
Speaker 1: very true, very true. It's like, what is he doing
Speaker 1: to this woman? Now he's got a guitar. That's the
Speaker 1: true horrors when a man shows up with a guitar. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: here's wonder Wall. Well yeah, thanks so much for being here.
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