1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: If you want to bring up a new guy, like 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: bring him up in a position that he's. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Already used to, it's a treat. We've got our boy 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: Pap in the flesh, looking ready to go. Okay, obviously 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: we hear from Pap a lot every week with Picks, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: but we've got we've got live Pap right now saying 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: hello to FT nation those at the desk. We love 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: the whole thing. Anyway, Pap, good to see you, dude, 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: and I do want to get some business down first, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: because we actually haven't had you on since the Devers drama. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: I've been seeing what you've been tweeting about it and 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: what you've said on nesson. But we have another chapter 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: to the story here. It's Christian Campbell, the answer in 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: your mind to the first base fix. No, no, he's. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Not at all. 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna head up there tomorrow and 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the field. I'm gonna watch his 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: footwork around the bag just because I want to see 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: for myself. I've got the Baltimore series, but I don't 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: see it like we. We struggled to get him to 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: turn a double play early on in the season, so 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't play the infield. But to me, 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: if you could play third, you could play first. If 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you could play second, you can play short, to to 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: the to the most part, if you could play left field, 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: you should be able to play right field. 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: In my opinion, I don't know. You can ask Cratzy 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: and the Todd Father about that, but. 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: I just think that eventually, when it's all said and done, 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I think the best answer is Raffie Devers if Yoshida 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: can get healthy again. But right now it's just they're 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean they had Toro, I mean I never heard 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: of this Toro guy, I mean playing. But the whole 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: problem is is you got somebody at first base that 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy, and when you can't be on the field, 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: you can't produce. 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 5: Should the superstar that Roffy Deverbs is, And maybe you 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 5: don't agree, maybe he's not the superstar of the team, 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: but should he make that move so the team can 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: put the best lineup out there and hopefully he can 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 5: like be serviceable. It's not like they had a gold 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: glover at first already, so they're not going from way 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: up here to way down here. 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: But should he move to first for the team? 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, I think so Kratz. I think that's why John 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Henry came into town. I think that's why Alex Coras 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: talked with him a lot. I think there's been discussions 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: about it. But here's the problem is, you're paying a 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: guy three hundred million dollars who has a lot of pride, 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to all of a sudden go over 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: there and start clanking the ball around the infield and 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: look like a circus. 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: We don't need that either. 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: But to me, I just you know, I think that, 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: to be totally honest with you, I think there's a 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: little bit of oh, well, you wanted me to play third, 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't you get pregnant? 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: You take me away from there? Oh wait, now you 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: want me to d H. 60 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: Now, Oh no, no, no, no, I ain't gonna DH. 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too. And you know, 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, when we all play this game, 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: there's ego involved, and when you your last day of 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: playing the game, ego hits the door and you don't 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: carry it with you anymore. But I mean, look, at 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we all these players have ego. 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: I think the ego has a lot to do with 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: this situation. 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 5: Do you think it has to do with maybe Devers 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: doesn't believe this team is actually good enough. 71 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: It's like, wow, you know what, we're always just five hundred. 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: Why would I go play first base, change my you know, 73 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: change for this team who I don't think they're good enough. 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, Kratz, I think that, you know, 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: he's not to that extent where he doesn't care, doesn't 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: think the team's good. He's he's a team He's a 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: team player. I mean, overall, this guy is a team 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: player in my opinion. It's just the fact that when 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you're sitting here having a scramble, and I think that 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: for position, I think that he's gotten used to DH. 81 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: So that says a lot like it's like, well, man, 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I just now got used to DH. I might have 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: showed up spring training not ready, which I think he 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: showed up to spring training and he wasn't ready. 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: I mean we were missing. 86 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Ninety two miles an hour right down the pipe for 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: the first you know, two weeks of the season. But 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also adjustment into you know, him now 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: becoming familiar with the DH rule. 90 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: All right, one more for you on this one and 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, Devers is raking. I don't want 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: to switch that up at all right now. They really 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: need the impact bat that he's bringing to the table. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: Where's Alex Korra in all of this? Do you think 95 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: that he has a strong relationship with Devers? Do you 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: think that he genuinely disagrees with the front office and 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: doesn't want Raffi out there playing first for whatever reason, 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: including the fact that Devers is not being a good 99 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: defender in the past few years in Major League Baseball? Like, 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: what do you think's inside the head of Alex Korra 101 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: with all of this, Well. 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: I think they're all scrambling. I mean, that's that's that's 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: what's happening. 104 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, when when you have to start making all 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: these adjustments and start moving people out of position, and 106 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you're starting second basement from 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: opening day, you're having to put him at first and 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: start taking reps at first. Durned Battie practice. I mean, look, 109 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's why John Henry flew in town, 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: Like there's some some things that need to be answered, 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: and are the guys that are coming up in Rome 112 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: and Anthony and Marcelo Meyer are Are they ready? Like 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: to me, they're ready. And if you want to bring 114 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: up a new guy, like bring him up in a 115 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: position that he's already used to. So I don't know, 116 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: it's tough. They're scrambling right now. I'm telling you. 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this. I'm switching gears here a 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: little bit to the to the Yankees. Devin Williams, big 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 6: time closer, all of a sudden struggles a little bit, well, 120 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 6: struggles a lot, gets sent down not to close the role. 121 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: Now he's kind of like the seventh eighth inning guy. 122 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: Have you won? 123 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 6: Have you ever been in that situation before? And two 124 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 6: if you haven't, you know what's the mindset of a closer? 125 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 7: Now? 126 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 6: All of a sudden he's not that top guy anymore. 127 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: Well, Todd, I'm gonna tell you right now, for a closer, 128 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: the mindset is everything. 129 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: Uh, you can. You could have one. 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Hundred and two and one hundred and three miles an 131 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: hour like Eradis Chapman. But if your mind ain't there, 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: and you're not focused on on the present and not 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: worried about the blown save yesterday or who you got coming. 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 7: Up next, it's it's it's it's to me, it's it's 135 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 7: all about your mindset to be a good closer, and 136 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 7: you know when. 137 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: You come into those situations. For me, it was always 138 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: one pitch at a time and one hitter at a time. 139 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think today's closer is changed too. 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: And we all know this. It's it's not the same role. 141 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: It's it's a leverage role now. So that makes it tough. 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Man, when guys in the bullpin can go walk out 143 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: to the bullpen and they don't know what anying they're 144 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: going to pitch in. It makes it tough to prepare, 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: it really does. 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: Pat You shook your head. 147 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: Yes, when were you ever in this You never lost 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: your closer position? 149 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did, Mart Mulanson in Washington when I was 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: with Washington's last year in my career. 151 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: And what transition is that? What transition is that in 153 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: the sense of do are you resigned to the fact 154 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: that the shark is going to be the one closing 155 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 5: and you're like, Okay, we'll just get my eighth inning 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 5: because I'm here for the boys, or are you like, oh, 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: you know what, I still want to stroll out in 158 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 5: the sixth get my massage during the game and then 159 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 5: win my closer rollback. 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: No, I think that you always want to try to 161 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: win their closers roll back, but you got to make 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: that adjustment. Man like Devin Williams is making adjustments probably 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: on the daily, and you know it's it's probably it's 164 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: probably really hard for him right now and that that's 165 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the struggles. But if he can get more confidence and 166 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: more reps in the eighth inning, and that's what he's 167 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: gonna be pitching, I guarantee he's gonna be more successful. 168 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: If he bounces around, it's gonna be a whole lot harder. 169 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 8: Scott, you need to check out this rollback hoodie I have. 170 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 8: It's eighty five plus degrees here in Florida. 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It just looks like, you know, they 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 6: talk about he didn't run out a couple balls the 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 6: other day. We get it, and you've seen guys do 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: it firsthand, and you've actually called guys out for it. 185 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 6: I'm not specifically trying to say, you know what you 186 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: would do in that situation. But what are you seeing 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 6: from one Soto right now? His numbers are a little 188 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 6: bit down. It looks like, you know, and you've never 189 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 6: been in it before, but that New York rivalry, it's 190 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 6: a different ballgame. The fans are turning their backs on you, 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 6: they're you know, flipping you the bird then any anything 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: they're saying. It's hurtful at the end of the day. 193 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 6: But what do you think is going on in his mindset? 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 6: And are you seeing an anything from him? 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, first off, he's a consummate pro and 196 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: I get not running out everybody. You cannot physically run 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: out every single ball. 198 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: I get that throughout the course of the season. 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: But you know what, Todd, you can run or you 200 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: can hustle in a way where you're still not going 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, right like you, there's giving up and 202 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: there's you know, making emotions. But yeah, you know, look, 203 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I guarantee you this probably won't happen very often, but. 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: You don't like to see it. 205 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And it's and as a guy who's making seven hundred 206 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: million dollars, like I was watching Ken, and I agree 207 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,359 Speaker 1: with Ken earlier saying when you signed those types of contracts, 208 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: you don't just sign to go out and play baseball. 209 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: You signed to do press conferences after the game. You 210 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: signed there to make All Star games. You signed to 211 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: be a leader. You signed there for that amount of 212 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: money to show the rest of the team how to play. 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 4: And you know, like I said, I don't think this 214 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: is this is just a whoops. 215 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: And you know, in my case, when I was playing 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and I had my dust up, you know, there was 217 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: team meetings that were happening about how we're gonna play, 218 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and the hustle needed. 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 9: To increase, and the way we ran out balls needed 220 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 9: to change, and so we had a players only meeting, 221 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 9: and you know, until that happens, I mean, I don't 222 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 9: think there's nothing serious. 223 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: Really. 224 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: All right, let's go to another closer. Since we have 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 5: the Phillies all time saves leader on here, let's go 226 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: to Jose Alvarado. When is your first what's your first 227 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 5: reaction when a dude gets popped for steroids? 228 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: Nowadays in the big leagues. 229 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: You idiot, really, like I mean you know, I mean, look, 230 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: we'd all love to do do performance enhancing drugs. Of course, 231 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: it makes the season a whole lot easier. I mean, yeah, 232 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: who wouldn't. But at the end of the day, like 233 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: this is what you sign up for. You know exactly 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: what you're being tested for. You know exactly when the 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: test are. There's no skirting them, and you know at 236 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, like you got nobody to 237 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: blame but yourself for this, and not only that, like 238 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: you let down your team. I'm sorry, man, like that 239 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: that's a selfish it's a selfish act. 240 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: But I get it. 241 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Like people are on paper drives and like why not, 242 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Like if it pays for. 243 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: You to make a bunch of money, why not do it? 244 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: And it's a walk here or something like that, Like 245 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: I know it's still in our game. I know peds 246 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: are still in our game. They're just not out completely. 247 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: But it's sad to see and will never get him 248 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: completely out. But you know, he let his team down. Man, 249 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: it was a selfish act in my opinion. 250 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 5: How do you look at him as a teammate when 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: he comes back because he can't play in the playoffs? 252 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Well, well, hopefully he apologizes to his team, say, you know, 253 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: and I've had this happen too. 254 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 4: You know, players do stupid things. We all have. I've 255 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: apologized to the entire franchise before, you know. 256 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: But you know, at the end of the day, is 257 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: his apology serious? Does he want to make better and 258 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: does he want to be a part of the team, 259 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: and how bad does he want to be back on 260 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: this team? 261 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: Is what twenty five other guys in that clubhouse have 262 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: to figure out. 263 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: You know, Pap, I don't know if you saw the 264 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: specifics on this one, but you know they tried to 265 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: talk about how they were working on on weight loss. 266 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Here with testosterone TRT, we always hear something right, it's ringworm, 267 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: it's weight loss, whatever. And as we talked about a 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: lot this week, you guys, as players, get all the 269 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: resources you need. The team is there to tell you 270 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: what you can and can have. You can call someone 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: at any time and they will help you out on 272 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: a team by team basis. They all have that set up. 273 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: So here's my question for you. When a let's say teammate, 274 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: let's say here's your teammate comes up with that, what 275 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: is the response, Because you said you want an honest apology, 276 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Most of the time we do, I would say, at 277 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: least half the time we get stories like this, So 278 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: how does that get received by teammates with teammates rather 279 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: just hear you say, hey, you're an idiot, you messed up, 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: but you took this you know you shouldn't have, or 281 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: do you want to hear you know, this elaborate thing 282 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: on how this is the only way I guess for 283 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: him to lose weight. 284 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: No, I don't want to hear any of it. 285 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: I just want to see what he does after he 286 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: meets back with a team, even apologizes, and. 287 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: What he does to move forward. 288 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: What he does to move forward would tell you everything 289 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: about how he feels about the situation. 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: But it just blows my mind. 291 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Man. It's just like like you know, as a player, 292 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: like like if I'm sticking a needle in my ass, 293 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: like I'm probably not, like this is probably illegal, Like 294 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: there's no like, oh I didn't know, or I was 295 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: trying to lose weight, Like, I hate that when players 296 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: try to come up with excuses, man like, don't don't, 297 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: don't try to muddy the waters man. 298 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: Crats. I'm gonna let everyone in on a little secret. 299 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: I am not a fan of carrying around physical cash. 300 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: I go Cash app, where you can send, receive, or 301 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: transfer money with family and friends. It's super easy. 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After 319 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: they experimented with it in the Arizona Fall League, MLB 320 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: will begin this pilot program in the Florida State League. 321 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Teams can challenge a check swing using limb tracking technology. 322 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: This story and report coming from the great reporters over 323 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: at at the Wall Street Journal, and this was a 324 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: test last year in the Fall League. Last fall, Baseball 325 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: America put this in an article. If the bat's barrel 326 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: is judged to have traveled more than forty five degrees 327 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: past as if I know, I'm like doing this past 328 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: its final stopping point, then it is judged a swing. 329 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: If it moves less than forty five degrees, no swing. 330 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Not clear though, which way the call would go. If 331 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: the barrel lands at exactly forty five degrees, I say, 332 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: TI goos to the runner, TI goes to the hitter. 333 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 2: But anyway, what do you think about this? 334 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: No? 335 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Why ridiculous? You probably argued how many check swings in 336 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: your life? 337 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 6: This is ridiculous? 338 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: Man, What are we doing? 339 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: You don't want to challenge your check swing? 340 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is so ridiculous. There's a lot 341 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 6: more words I could say. This is just this is dumb. 342 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 6: Why why are we trying to change the game so much? 343 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: The balls and strikes are great, you know, you get 344 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: the challenge system there. This is really they're just trying 345 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 6: too much. I really don't like this all I love 346 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 6: human element. This takes it out the umpire. 347 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: First. 348 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 6: You know, we used to have guys, you know, they 349 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: might to go a bang safe, like guys used to 350 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: make really cool calls at first, like I this is 351 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 6: where you have the baseball talk. The next day you 352 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 6: see that he didn't go, you know you went, and 353 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 6: then you're gonna say he won forty six degrees fahrenheit. 354 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 6: I mean, come on, dude, what are we doing here? 355 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: Now? 356 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 6: It was Celsius. This is ridiculous, ridiculous. Please know that's it. 357 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: Please. I want to see it. 358 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 5: I want to see it named the Todd Father, the 359 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 5: Todd Father Challenge, the check swing, the Todd check swingness 360 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 5: ash Man. I just feel like one thing that Ken 361 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: always says when we talk about the challenge system, we 362 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: talk about abs technology being introduced into the game. One 363 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: are the unintended consequences? Is there going to be a 364 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 5: way that people can manipulate it that. Oh, it really 365 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 5: screws this guy because he's farther up in the box. 366 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 5: It's a cool looking it's a cool looking piece of technology. 367 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: But what if what if what you know right there, 368 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 5: what if the guy squares to bunt and he's always 369 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: keeping it past there? 370 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: Did he offer at it? Now? Are we going to 371 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: override that? 372 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: Because uh, well, the system doesn't know how to read that, 373 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 5: So no bunts are challengeable. There's there's a lot of 374 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: things that need to be worked out that it'll be 375 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see. You know what if you 376 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 5: put your bat to if you get your bat to 377 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 5: the plate, the ball can go over the infield. Like 378 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 5: to me, that's that's a swing. If you turn and 379 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: the ball's coming in at you and you get out 380 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 5: of the way like this, that ball could cross your 381 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 5: bat could cross the line. 382 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: Huh well, hey, we got to use the challenge system. 383 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: See what it says, Yeah, that's a strike. If you 384 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: were swinging your bat and you were getting out of 385 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: the way. What if they gave you each team one 386 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: per game. It's like ninth inning playoffs, huge moment moment 387 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: of your career, and you got worked on a check 388 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: swing and you know you were right. You don't want that. 389 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: You don't want one in your pocket. 390 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind that. But if they're going by. 391 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: This, I'm just saying, like, where can I I want 392 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: to get to the negotiating table with Todd Father. Okay, 393 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: I know you're not a fan. I'm not even saying 394 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm just trying to present the other side. 395 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: Can I talk you into one that one moment in 396 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: a game? You'll give me one and you're okay with it? Okay? Krats? 397 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: Can I talk you into one? If they get the 398 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: tech down? Can I talk you into one? 399 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: Sure? 400 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: Okay? So what are we? What are we? What are 401 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: we worried about? You think they're going to give you ten? 402 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: They're not going to give you ten. What are you 403 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: worried about? 404 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: They're gonna give you more than one? 405 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: I know that they're not going to give you more. 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: And three. 407 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: Okay, but they'll give you three. They'll start with three. 408 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: I guess what do we think that they'll do? My 409 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: guess is if this ever comes to fruition two, I just. 410 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 6: Think takes more of the human element out of it, 411 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 6: and umpires are gonna be scarce here. Pretty soon, there's 412 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 6: gonna be no umpires. There's gonna be one umpire and 413 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 6: he's gonna just stand behind the picture or something just 414 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: right there. You want to check it, okay. 415 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: But with all due respect, it's gonna be ridiculous. I'm 416 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: not really worried about the umps, like their job is 417 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: to be invisible. 418 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 6: But I like umpires making bad calls sometimes what I 419 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 6: do like, that's part of it. Missing Missing a call 420 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 6: is part of baseball. It's part of any sport. 421 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: You like, getting a little heated and saying, this guy's 422 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: that you're BROWNI he has no idea what he's looking 423 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: at tonight. 424 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: Make argument. I mean, that's listen to fence and boo. 425 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: You should have you know, you see it in travel 426 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: all the time. Parents the other day screaming, This lady 427 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 6: was screaming her head off because the umpire switched the 428 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 6: call from out to safe. Absolutely screaming, bloody murder. 429 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: The run shutting accounted. 430 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: Screaming like she was at Yankee Stadium and I'm sitting 431 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 6: there at third base. 432 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on right now? But we're 433 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: still going to get that even with the challenge system 434 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 2: next year, with balls and strikes, you're going to have 435 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: more fan engagement on that part of the game than 436 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: you've ever seen because the fans inside the ballpark, we'll 437 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: get to yell and comment on if you should challenge 438 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: that one or not right. It actually will put some 439 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: fans in place. How many times are you at a 440 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: game where the fans are like, come on, and you're like, dude, 441 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: that guy dialed it into the bottom left corner of 442 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: the zone or whatever, right he found the quadrant and 443 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: fans are like, this sucks. And now it'd be like, 444 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: all right, yeah you feel that way. Let's see if 445 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: your manager challenges, oh he did it because he knows 446 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't a strike. Oh he did, and you're wrong, 447 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: and the UMP's right, and maybe the ump can get 448 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: back on the ump mic and say told you, why. 449 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: Don't they change a guy who swings the ball, fouls 450 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 6: it off and the catchers go off where the cutchers know, 451 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 6: why can't you review that? That's a really big call 452 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: in baseball, Kratzy, would you agree? Why can't you challenge that? 453 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: I would agree? And they are there there. 454 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 5: That's my biggest issue with all of this is they're 455 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: picking and choosing yea, the ones. If we're gonna if 456 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: we're gonna review things, let's review to make sure we 457 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 5: get all the calls right. You can't challenge a fair 458 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: ball in in front of the third and first base umpires. 459 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 5: You can't challenge a foul tip into the mid when 460 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: we have the access to the video, Like, let's just 461 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 5: get it right. 462 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: Other sports, they go. 463 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: Back, They go back and disallow a basket after the 464 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: other team has scored a basket, or they or they 465 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: take a point off because it was a two pointer 466 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 5: because his foot was on the line. They don't stop 467 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 5: the game, they don't stop the pace of play. They 468 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: can go back and change it. Like there's there's a 469 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: lot going on. There's outside factors too that kind of 470 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: go into this. 471 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want it right. 472 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 6: I would like it right too, but not in the 473 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: discretion where all of a sudden would become so robotic 474 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 6: and computerize it. 475 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: It's just like here we go again. That's all I 476 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: want to get to the point, Kratz where I can 477 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: go into the seats, I can press a button and 478 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: it's I can decide if Todd Father swings or not. 479 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: So like I got to forget the Limb technology. I 480 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 2: got the Limb like hookup where he's like this and 481 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: I can decide. You know, I'm a video game and 482 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: Todd fathers an AI bot. Now I'm kidding, but I 483 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: don't know. We'll see what happens. Baby steps a ball 484 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: after AFL. 485 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 10: Bit of an exposee on the Pirates, trying to understand 486 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 10: what the hell well they're doing over there and why 487 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 10: they can't win, and we came out basically, at the 488 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 10: end of the day, it's Bob Nutting's fault. It's their 489 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 10: owner's fault. It's the way that he operates, the way 490 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 10: he operates his businesses that are the main culprit. 491 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: Which got me thinking, hmm, can we talk about other owners? 492 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: Which got me thinking even more? 493 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 10: And I have a couple theories, so let's get into 494 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 10: them right now. Theory number one, you can predict your 495 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 10: team's future success based on how its current owner made 496 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 10: their money. Now, just give you a little context on this. 497 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 10: I wanted to look at because Bob Nutting is in 498 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 10: newspapers and he buys local newspapers. His family has been 499 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 10: doing this for over one hundred years. And what they 500 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 10: do is they get them profitable and then they just 501 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 10: let him sit and that got me thinking, Oh, he 502 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 10: just likes passive income. So of course he runs his 503 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 10: baseball team that way, which is terrible to run a 504 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 10: baseball team, you're never gonna be competitive, which they're not. Ever, 505 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 10: every once in a while, a person like that will 506 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 10: just run into like run into i don't know, like 507 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 10: a three year stretch where you have the MVP in 508 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 10: the league and you make the playoff three years in 509 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 10: a row and then never be good again. That's what 510 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 10: happened to him. 511 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: I want to watch the rest of that. It premiered 512 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: earlier today on the FT Channel, so you can check 513 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 2: out May Day with Trevor May. Just just riffing, riffing 514 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: for hours. But that's some good stuff right there, you know. 515 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: I want to hear Trevor May's theories on owners and 516 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: how their real life translates to their baseball life, running 517 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: their favorite toy or for some their favorite cash machine 518 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: that's fun, or. 519 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 5: Or the fact that the Dodgers play the long game 520 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: and know that success over the long term works. With Googenheim, 521 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm just saying I'm not giving you. I don't have 522 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: the inside info from Mace planning. You need to watch 523 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: it though, like it is genius. It is genius. Some 524 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 5: of the guys who are like kind of playboy owners 525 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: where it's like, hey, you know, I'm just kind of 526 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: playing my money. 527 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: Lazi is just play money. 528 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 5: They might make some dumb decisions, but you know what, 529 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 5: it might hit a jackpot here or there. 530 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: I like the way you phrase that. Are you a 531 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: hedge fund or private equity person, Well then you might 532 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: be looking at this a little bit differently from others 533 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: and say, if I can create a behemoth, or if 534 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: I can resurrect a powerhouse like Guggenheim did with the Dodgers, 535 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: because remember before they took over the Dodgers, it was 536 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: your used car salesman type. I don't know what his 537 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: last job was, but it felt that way with Frank McCourt, 538 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: who actually still owns the parking lot. So my reference 539 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: is kind of relevant. Big difference in how those people 540 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: came about. So that was good stuff or right. 541 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 5: There, or if they got it or or if they 542 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: bequeathed Now what's the word I'm looking for? They got it, 543 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 5: A got sent down to them just like one of 544 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 5: those used cars, Like if Daddy had the team and 545 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 5: then oh okay, well I'll just get all my money from. 546 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: My parents and eh, whatever. We'll see what happens here.