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Speaker 2: Here's this week's episode.

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Speaker 3: Welcome In. Welcome in David Kitchen, a mirror employee of

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Speaker 3: Late Round Media with JJ zech Reason, the guy who

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Speaker 3: actually owns Late Round, JJ, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to adjust my desk so that I'm like centered. Well,

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Speaker 1: something's going on with my camera?

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Speaker 3: You look. I mean, if anything, I'm not well adjusted.

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Speaker 3: But people have been saying that for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not well adjusted, and this is for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think let's focused on getting my desk situated because

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Speaker 2: But things are good. This is our you know.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a show next week. A Late Round

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Speaker 1: show because I will be on vacation. I am taking

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Speaker 1: So we are doing a spring break trip with the

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Speaker 1: kiddos and a couple other families. Should be a good time.

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Speaker 1: I'll be around, but I will not be doing this show.

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Speaker 1: We will have two shows though, publishing still next week

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Speaker 1: because the grind don't stop.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We also have the Late Round newsletter, had

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Speaker 3: a a good email being sent out by mister Brandon Godoula.

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Speaker 3: And as far as the prospects, some of the prospects

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Speaker 3: you know, the chat is going, We've got Dynasty Chat

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Speaker 3: And we also have the a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: So I gotta say, guys, so you know we have

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Speaker 1: a poll right for March madness and uh if first off,

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Speaker 1: But I am so glad that the person who is

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Speaker 1: benefiting most from this current madness in March is Brandon Godoula.

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Speaker 1: Because kitchen talk so much junk after Day one of

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Speaker 1: Determinate too, I know you're most great. It makes it

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Speaker 1: It's just so funny that the person you destroyed just

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Speaker 2: Right then? Emmanuel Wilson. I don't know, Like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I feel like whoever goes to Seattle, we're just gonna

440
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Speaker 3: like the community at large is just gonna steam up.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be Judarium Price and it's gonna

442
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Speaker 1: really really destroy my brain on that Friday and Saturday,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, we're doing the Prospect Guide updates.

444
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna a really tough time figuring out what

445
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Speaker 2: to do.

446
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, Kittle apparently on track to start or to

447
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: start Week one. I must say, I'm gonna say cap

448
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: on this. JJ.

449
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah I will too.

450
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

451
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: Again, devastating injury and an older guy who obviously is

452
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: a freak from an athleticism standpoint.

453
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I can't.

454
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Speaker 1: I can't get behind that, especially like Jake Tan just

455
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: isn't that bad of a backup and fill in for them.

456
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they need to rush Kittle back.

457
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Speaker 2: You know, they add Mike Evans, they have like Ricky

458
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Speaker 2: Piersol should be healthy.

459
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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what they do in the draft.

460
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Speaker 1: I think that there's still a team that could address

461
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. But yeah, I'm I'm not. This is what

462
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: teams do this time of year. You know he's on track.

463
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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, what else are you gonna say? You know, like,

464
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: what are younna say? He's not gonna PlayN till week ten?

465
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Speaker 3: You know, it's even like with the coach speaking the

466
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Speaker 3: genus peak. Obviously they have like the coaches meetings. Oh no,

467
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Speaker 3: if you saw McCarthy said, like, everybody's got a clean

468
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: slate when asked about like Caleb Johnson, Like what is

469
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 3: he gonna say? No, this guy sucks, like he's not

470
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: gonna he's not gonna get on the field. So if

471
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Speaker 3: they if you are asked about a position and you

472
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Speaker 3: say something, I think it's different than like if you

473
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Speaker 3: if it like a GM or coach brings it up themselves.

474
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Speaker 3: That's just you know, that's me. But speaking of the Niners,

475
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: brass saying that Juan Jennings will not be back with

476
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Speaker 3: a forty nine or something that we already knew. But

477
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Speaker 3: I'm still a little bit surprised he hasn't signed anywhere.

478
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Speaker 2: A little bit, I mean, because I think that he's

479
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Speaker 2: on the fringe of being you know, we've talked about

480
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Speaker 2: this before, like you typically see.

481
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Speaker 1: Some of these veterans just kind of waited out a

482
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Speaker 1: little bit before you know, signing with the team, and

483
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Speaker 1: with Juwan Jennings, he's kind of on the fringe of

484
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Speaker 1: like being one of those guys. But it's just crazy

485
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Speaker 1: to think a year ago he was like holding out

486
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Speaker 1: and in less than an ear ago, yeah, holding out

487
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Speaker 1: trying to get a new contract because he's coming off

488
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Speaker 1: a big season and.

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Speaker 3: That's probably why.

490
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Speaker 1: Like I think he's good and he's a player, like

491
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Speaker 1: he's a good physical player, which teams generally do. Like

492
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Speaker 1: I think with the forty nine ers, they're kind of like,

493
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Speaker 1: you know, they've dealt with the Ayuk stuff, they've dealt

494
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Speaker 1: with a little bit of Juwan Jennings, like Juwan Jennings,

495
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Speaker 1: and it's seemingly they they've had like you know, they

496
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Speaker 1: were able to come back together and have a relationship

497
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: and stuff, but they're probably just like, get me out

498
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: of this, like I don't want to deal with this anymore.

499
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Speaker 1: You also have to question when teams don't re sign

500
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Speaker 1: a player, you know, this is why with wide receivers,

501
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: like we see when they change teams, it's usually better.

502
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Speaker 1: And this is some research we're gonna be doing for

503
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: the draft guy this year, but it's usually better via

504
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Speaker 1: trade than signing, because what kind of team lets go

505
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Speaker 1: of a player who's good, you know, especially a player

506
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Speaker 1: at a position like wide receiver. So I think there's

507
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Speaker 1: some of those questions that pop up for Jennings. Am

508
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Speaker 1: I surprised he hasn't signed. Yes, I think that if

509
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: he I said this before, if he is a you know,

510
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: in a position where he's more money hungry, which I

511
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: think he probably would be because he wasn't like this

512
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: highly touted player coming out. It's not like he got

513
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: these massive, massive contracts. Maybe a team like Miami would

514
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: go after him and just give him what he wants whatever,

515
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: no big deal, and then they at least have a body,

516
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, to throw to. And then he's in a

517
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: position where, you know, from a from a real life

518
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: football perspective, they're not winning a Super Bowl this year

519
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: or probably anytime soon.

520
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's one yeardale season for these guys. Saints

521
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 3: planning on keeping Kamara in the running back room. This

522
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Speaker 3: gets a winkie face for me at the end, because

523
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Speaker 3: I do love that in the News and Rumors channel,

524
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Speaker 3: you know, we had the the tweet in our discord

525
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Speaker 3: that the Saints plant having Alvin Kamara in the running

526
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Speaker 3: back room alongside Travis Etn and then the reaction like

527
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Speaker 3: the little emoji actions were just four emojis with the

528
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Speaker 3: winkie face like yeah, not gonna happen, Like again, what

529
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Speaker 3: else are you gonna say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about his situation because I kind

532
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: of just assumed that he was gone. So I don't

533
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Speaker 1: want to comment on the contract situation that I don't know.

534
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Enough about and like what it looks like if they

535
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Speaker 2: were to cut.

536
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Speaker 1: Him, but it sounds like that's probably still the direction

537
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: we'll see. The thing with Kamara that's interesting is that

538
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: he's let it be known when he signed that other

539
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: contract that he wanted to stay in New Orleans and

540
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to play anywhere else.

541
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Speaker 2: He isn't.

542
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's the kind of player that has

543
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: like he's kind of a he's kind of a like

544
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 1: like just like a very like chill, like from an

545
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: off the field standpoint, he's not like the standard player.

546
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Speaker 1: You know, he's got more personality to him and like

547
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: he's more unique, and from that standpoint, maybe he doesn't

548
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: really care about ring chasing so much either, and so

549
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting I think the way this all goes down,

550
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: because if he's not a saint, does he retire?

551
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Speaker 2: You know, is he is? He just done?

552
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: And after last year, you know, it seemed like the

553
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: wheels started to come off a little bit like maybe

554
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Speaker 1: he just realizes that this is it for him.

555
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Speaker 3: Okay, Ballard praises Josh Downs. This is a direct quote.

556
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Speaker 3: I think Josh Downs is freaking good. I do. I've

557
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: always thought he's good. I think allowing him some more opportunities,

558
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: we're going to see some of the special stuff you've

559
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: seen in the past, but more.

560
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I talked about this on the Free

562
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Speaker 1: Agent episode that I did a month ago or whatever

563
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: it was, talked about it on some shows that I

564
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: think Downs is like, like, if you look at his peripherals,

565
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: his per route run numbers have always been really, really good.

566
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: He's just in the Jaden Reid situation where they don't

567
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: use him outside the slot. And in today's game where

568
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: you're getting more two wide receiver sets, it means you're

569
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: even more of a rotational player and you're just not

570
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: going to see the volume that you want in fantasy football.

571
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Speaker 1: But if they're if you look at their wide receiver

572
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: room right now, I mean there's not anything outside of

573
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Speaker 1: Alec Pearce and so, you know, I do think they're

574
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Speaker 1: going to address wide receiver in the draft. They need

575
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: another perimeter guy probably to develop like a Jacobe.

576
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: Lane or something like that.

577
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Speaker 1: But I do think Josh Downs can play on the

578
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Speaker 1: outid Like I I don't know, man, I think a lot.

579
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Of these like these slot guys.

580
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: Not I don't want to generalize, but I think that

581
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: like the really good slot guys can can probably do

582
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: a lot more on the perimeter than people give them

583
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: credit for in general. And you even see some players

584
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is the easiest example where they just don't

585
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: even care if they're slot or you know, perimeter wide

586
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: receivers when they're coming out of school. I mean, they

587
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: drafted Jalen McMillan into Mecca Buka and back to back

588
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: years and they use them both on the outside, you know,

589
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: like and they've been fine on the outside, right, So

590
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: I think that like some of it's coaching, some of

591
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: it's just like the willingness to put him there.

592
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: And I think Downs has.

593
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: The route running skills set to be able to do

594
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: more than what he's done in that offense. So I'm

595
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: not surprised by what Ballard's saying here. I hope that

596
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: you were able to buy lower because I guarantee you

597
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: his his you know, price goes up at least a

598
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: little bit based on the comments you know, in Dynasty.

599
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think he's gonna be an

600
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: interesting sort of later round dart.

601
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Speaker 2: Throw in redraft this year.

602
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: No Pittman, obviously, his his value has gone on up.

603
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: Bill's already monitoring Dalton Kincaid. This is an interesting quote

604
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: from Joe Brady. Well, he just said that he's already

605
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: wondering like how to basically I feel like I might

606
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: need to just get the direct quote here, but Brady's

607
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: already wondering how Buffalo will maintain Kincaid's week to week

608
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: and play to play wherewithal.

609
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the other thing that I like

610
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: to do with this coach speaks stuff is I like

611
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: to look at actions. And they re signed Dalton or

612
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox this offseason, So that to me signals that

613
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: maybe Dalton Kincaid is not about to see that full

614
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: time rule that everyone has just been waiting for, you know,

615
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: he's usually in that like sixty percent routes share range.

616
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: That's just not enough. Talked about it a lot last

617
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: year on the show.

618
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Speaker 1: You know, he kind of bucked the regression trend a

619
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: little bit, so good on him, but it's just not

620
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: the kind of player that you can sustainably expect like

621
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: elite fantasy production from. Fortunately, he's in a good offense.

622
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I read online and someone in

623
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: fact check me if you're a doctor or something like that.

624
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: But he had that PCL right, And with pcls, it's

625
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: not like a reconstruction type situation. It's more of a

626
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: like got to just play through it and deal with it.

627
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: And it's not as like straightforward necessarily as like even

628
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: an ACL it sounded like. And so that could just

629
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: be what we're dealing with with Kincaid, which means we're

630
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: probably at least in the short term, you know, year

631
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: two years however long not going to see full time

632
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid, which sucks.

633
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he heard his PCL two years ago in twenty

634
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: twenty four and then declined to get surgery, which if

635
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: as someone who's had knee injuries, I know if the

636
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: PCL isn't like fully torn. You don't have to have surgery,

637
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: but then when you get complications, that's that's right. Great.

638
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Someone someone in Chad by the Way, is saying that

639
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: they think it was a restructure and not a resigned

640
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: for Dawson Knox. I think it was an extension, so

641
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: there was a It was technically was more like he

642
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: wasn't he wasn't set to be a free agental thing,

643
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: but it was more of a I can't remember exactly

644
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: what his status was, but it was it was an

645
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: extension of where he already was.

646
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: He just was able to stick around.

647
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: But you don't do something like that unless you either

648
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: really liked that player, which they probably do with Dawson Knox,

649
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: or that they could have something to do with this.

650
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: But Dondon kincaid, you.

651
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: Know, okay, this is it feels like something that happens

652
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: every off season that hurts Jalen Hurts annual hit piece.

653
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you read any of this, JJ,

654
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: but it's I don't. I don't think it's surprising, but

655
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: it's I guess worth talking about that. The you know,

656
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Speaker 3: the insider. I think Jeremy Fowler. Tim McManus wrote a

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Speaker 3: piece on ESPN about Jalen Hurts not being coachbull, bad

658
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Speaker 3: body language, that sort of thing. And listen, Hurts has

659
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Speaker 3: had multiple offensive coordinators, some have succeeded, some haven't. But

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Speaker 3: did you read this piece, and if so, like, what's

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Speaker 3: your takeaway on it?

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Speaker 1: I didn't, But I get really like, it's just really

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Speaker 1: bizarre to me that people have such strong feelings about

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Speaker 1: like a player like Hurts when like, I'm not using

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Speaker 1: quarterback wins as a as a thing here, but like,

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Speaker 1: he's been to multiple Super Bowls, he won a super

667
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Speaker 1: Bowl and to say that he had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with that or that it was just the system is

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Speaker 1: absolute garbage. He played out of his mind in both

670
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Speaker 1: of those games, Like he was fantastic in both those games.

671
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, like, I think Jalen Hurts

672
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Speaker 1: is not a bad quarterback the way that others do.

673
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Speaker 1: And I think last year's offense I went back and

674
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Speaker 1: I watched some of it again to this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Last year's offense was just.

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Speaker 1: So bad that you have to at least feel optimistic

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Speaker 1: that things will get better this year and that if

678
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Speaker 1: we had a better system in place and a better

679
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Speaker 1: coordinator for them last year, we wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Even be having this conversation. You know, we might not

681
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Speaker 2: even be having the conversation about aj Brown, who knows,

682
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Speaker 2: because he might have been happier.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to just dismiss the circumstances he

684
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Speaker 1: was working under and playing under last year. And I

685
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Speaker 1: think Hurts is it hurts this elite passer? No, but

686
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Speaker 1: like to say, you know, again, I haven't read the piece,

687
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Speaker 1: but if they're saying, if they're like trying to knock

688
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Speaker 1: his character is whatever, whatever the case may be, Like

689
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Speaker 1: it seems kind of absurd to me when he's literally

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Speaker 1: done great at every level of his football career and

691
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Speaker 1: he's gotten better, Like he got better as a passer

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Speaker 1: in the NFL too.

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Speaker 2: So I'm more pro than con Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: If you were to use the consensus opinion as like

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Speaker 1: the median there, I just think the consensus opinion is

696
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Speaker 1: kind of just like out of whack with him.

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Speaker 3: Are good buddy Josh Norris kind of said it. He's like, listen,

698
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Speaker 3: the good offensive corners have done well with Hurts as

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Speaker 3: far as getting him to like accentuating the strengths that

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Speaker 3: he has and getting him a step outside of his

701
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Speaker 3: comfort zone, which most likely is like under sinner and

702
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Speaker 3: the bad ones like Batulo have have not. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's kind of but that's the case.

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Speaker 2: That's the case for any non lea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's the point is that like he's not elite.

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Speaker 1: No, but like this is the same thing that you'll

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Speaker 1: get from any quarterback who is not elite.

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Speaker 2: So I just I don't think it's unique to Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: All right, today's data.

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Speaker 3: All right, JJ, we've got the biggest movers since the

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Speaker 3: Prospect Guide launch and you have pro and like negative

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Speaker 3: movers here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So what I did here was I looked at and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Goadoulah helped me pull this yesterday, but I looked

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Speaker 1: at the draft capital that we used in the pre

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Speaker 1: Draft Guide the launch. So that was what March sixteenth,

718
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Speaker 1: I think we launched the Prospect Guide. So like Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: Love in that guide with his score has a draft

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Speaker 1: capital of six, Omar Cooper has a draft capital of

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Speaker 1: thirty four.

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Speaker 2: So this was before some.

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Speaker 1: Of that spike happened for Omar Cooper. Bryce Lance one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen, and then you can see as of

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Speaker 1: three thirty one. This is via NFL Mock Draft database.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy I Love has gone up two spots, you know,

727
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Speaker 1: Omar Cooper's gone up ten spots. And what I wanted

728
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Speaker 1: to do is not just look at the raw number

729
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Speaker 1: of spots these guys rose by, because you know, two

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Speaker 1: spots in the last you know, the latter rounds of

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Speaker 1: the draft is not nearly the same as two spots

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Speaker 1: in the early parts of the first round.

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Speaker 2: And so what I did was I used Chase Stewart's

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Speaker 2: draft value chart, which is similar to like the Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Johnson one, but it's used off of the what's the

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Speaker 2: metric the value metric that Pro Football Reference has approximate

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Speaker 2: value I think it's called. And so he.

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Speaker 1: Uses that to come up with this chart that people

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Speaker 1: use all the time now to say, Okay, the first

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Speaker 1: overall pick has this approximate value. You know, a second

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Speaker 1: overall pick has this, and so on and so forth,

742
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Speaker 1: and it's like it decays, right, So like the middle

743
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Speaker 1: of the fifth round is not that different from like

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Speaker 1: the middle of the seventh round versus the middle of

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Speaker 1: the first round. We'll have a bigger delta to the

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Speaker 1: middle of the third round or the second round. And

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Speaker 1: so when you look at the value change with the

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Speaker 1: fourth overall pick for Jeremiah Love versus the sixth overall pick,

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Speaker 1: he's seen the biggest even though it's only two spots,

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Speaker 1: but he is seeing the biggest jump. Omar Cooper a

751
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Speaker 1: big jump now almost locked into the first round. So

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Speaker 1: these guys zapp scores will increase basically, is what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying versus what you're seeing right now. So it's Bryce Lance,

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Speaker 1: Omar Cooper, and Jeremiah Love. And then there's Chris bells

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Speaker 1: on stribling or Stribling, I don't know how to pronounce

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Speaker 1: his name.

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Speaker 2: Is the first TI I've said it out loud. I've

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Speaker 2: only been right tribbling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Skyler Bell, Jenarian Price, Carnel, Tate, ted Hurst, and

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Speaker 1: Dion Burks. Right, So all of those guys have seen

761
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Speaker 1: an uptick in Draft Capital versus where they were when

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Speaker 1: I published the Guy. Now on the opposite end, on

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Speaker 1: the very bottom, you have k Tron Allen, who I

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Speaker 1: didn't really love as a prospect to begin with, but

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Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, draft capital is sort of

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Speaker 1: catching up to that idea.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Virgil CJ.

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Speaker 1: Daniels, Emmett Johnson has gone from an eighty seventh overall

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Speaker 1: to one hundred and fourth overall. Malachi Fields has dropped

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Speaker 1: by about ten spots because he had that like senior

771
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Speaker 1: Bowl bump, and that seems to be wearing off a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Nick Singleton's dropped a decent bit, Zach Branch,

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Speaker 1: Denzel Boston, Brendan Thompson, the speedy guy, and Elijah Surat.

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Speaker 1: So those are the guys who have kind of got

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Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. I got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: saying wondering why Elijah Surrat looked so poor in the

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Speaker 1: Prospect Model versus some of the other kind of Day

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Speaker 1: two wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that at all.

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Speaker 1: It's just that you guys, you know, maybe next year

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Speaker 1: we put in the project like the assumed capital, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the pre draft versions that people know. But some

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Speaker 1: people have thought that like Elijah Surrat was like a

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Speaker 1: late first rounder, early second rounder, but he was a

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Speaker 1: sixty seventh overall pick in at the time and at

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Speaker 1: the moment that I published the Prospect Guide. If you

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Speaker 1: read the blurb, like he has pretty good you know,

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Speaker 1: metrics like breakout scores good, his trajectory was good, all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So, you know, Surat, I like,

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Speaker 1: as a prospect, I think he's good. But it's just

791
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Speaker 1: I'm baking in projected draft capital and it seems like

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Speaker 1: the fantasy community like Surrat more than the NFL actually does,

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Speaker 1: or hypothetically actually does.

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Speaker 3: The the Jeremiah Love thing is like, it's just really interesting.

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Speaker 3: It seems like he's either going to go four or five.

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Speaker 3: But as a Titans fan every other day, you know,

797
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Speaker 3: they're just flip flopping between an edge rusher and Jeremiah Love. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a one of the two.

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Speaker 2: But yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I want to throw out there and

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Speaker 1: is a question that we're getting is this just based

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Speaker 1: on analyst's opinions or did anything change?

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Speaker 2: Like the combine, this.

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Speaker 1: Is based off of mock drafts that come into NFL

805
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Speaker 1: mock draft database that they I don't know if they

806
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Speaker 1: like weigh some of them differently. I'm assuming they do,

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Speaker 1: and they take a consensus score basically of all of

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Speaker 1: these players, and they're able to give big board consensus

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Speaker 1: ranks on these guys. Now people will say, oh, that

810
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: doesn't like what good does that do well. I've tested

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Speaker 1: this data. I actually did an episode last year on

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Speaker 1: the results of those tests, and essentially what I found

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Speaker 1: was that the draft capital for mock drafts, so this

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Speaker 1: is right right before the NFL draft starts, to be fair.

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Speaker 1: So it's you know, you get another month of getting

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Speaker 1: mock drafts and of hearing what teams are going to

817
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Speaker 1: do and stuff. But the predictiveness of the mock draft

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Speaker 1: data is worse than actual draft capital, which isn't a surprise,

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Speaker 1: but it's really not bad, Like, it's not like bad

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Speaker 1: data to work off of, to the point where the

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Speaker 1: running back model is that model with the running back

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Speaker 1: model will use ten percent for draft capital of a

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Speaker 1: mock draft score because for whatever reason, the consensus seems

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Speaker 1: to be a lot better with running backs than than

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Speaker 1: other positions, or at least with wide receiver. And so like,

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Speaker 1: this data is not nothing. I know that people are

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Speaker 1: listening to this and they're probably like, oh, what does

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Speaker 1: this matter. I mean, it's it's actually kind of predictive,

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Speaker 1: and so you should pay attention if you, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're just curious of like movement and stuff, and

831
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Speaker 1: like true movement, you should pay attention to some of

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Speaker 1: that mock draft stuff because not only that, but when

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Speaker 1: we have reaches, you know, like Isaac Tesla last year

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Speaker 1: or yeah, Pat Bryant last year was kind of a

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Speaker 1: re Like when you have those reaches, those guys typically

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Speaker 1: underperform versus expectation. And it makes sense, right, because one

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Speaker 1: team wanted that player, whereas the when the opposite happens,

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Speaker 1: when a player falls in the draft versus expected that

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Speaker 1: player generally does a little bit better than than what

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Speaker 1: you or at least you know, that's not as big

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Speaker 1: of a deal.

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Speaker 2: As when a team reaches. And it makes sense because

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Speaker 2: when a team reaches, that's just one team saying that

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Speaker 2: we need to you know, go that route and do

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Speaker 2: that when there's all of these other data points saying

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Speaker 2: that guy's not not good enough for that draft capital.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and also you've got you know, you've got insider speak,

848
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Speaker 3: you have injury players with injuries, yeah, good or bad.

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Speaker 3: That can hill up. So lots of stuff contribute to

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Speaker 3: those those things that as far as like when we

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Speaker 3: produce the Draft guide, and again another reason JJ why

852
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: people just need to get the Draft Guide because then

853
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: you just get the updates.

854
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Speaker 2: And you even have both versions.

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Speaker 1: Then if you if you buy a for the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: you don't get the pre draft version. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: fun to look at the pre draft version, yeah.

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Speaker 3: To see where people were. All right, So let's get

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Speaker 3: on to some more comparisons.

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Speaker 2: The late round main event.

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Speaker 3: We've got favorite twenty twenty six draft comps for the

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Speaker 3: tight end position. Yeah this week JJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, as you guys know in the Prospect Guide, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Godoula did all the tight end write ups. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not as intimate with this stuff as I was with

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Speaker 1: running back and wide receiver because I didn't research it

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Speaker 1: the same way that I researched running back and wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I of course was editing and working with Brandon and.

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 1: So like, I know these guys, That's not what that

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm trying to say. It's just that

873
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: I just really really know the running back and wide receiver,

874
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: like journeys and stuff, and like what schools they played

875
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: for before they're find all that kind of stuff. So

876
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: what you're seeing, what you're gonna see today is over

877
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: the last week I created, I did some vibe coding,

878
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: some AI vibe coding.

879
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did yeah, you did.

880
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: Built out sort of a zap model database of sorts

881
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: that allows me to query things quicker and get some

882
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: cool visuals to share on shows like this. It's really

883
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: helpful for uh, you know, productivity from just an efficiency standpoint.

884
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: And so what we have right now, and this is

885
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: not consumed where we're having discussions about what we can

886
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: and can't publish all this kind of stuff, but what

887
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: we have here are you're gonna see spider charts of

888
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: these comps. I wish we had these for the other

889
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: two shows that we did with Running Back and Wide Receiver,

890
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: but you can kind of see how similar the players

891
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: look via the the image and the in the graphic

892
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: with the with the spider chart. And so we'll start here.

893
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: We'll start with Sam Rousch versus Darnell Washington his top

894
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah Boy, which Ralph was just a big boy six

895
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: six two sixty seven. Darnell Washington was six seven to

896
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: sixty four, so Ralsh was kind of beef here, which

897
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. Height adjusted speed scores were both

898
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: really good because they are both relatively fast at their

899
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: height and weight, so it's.

900
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Not like they were blazing and they weren't.

901
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Kenyon Sadik, but they were able to run relatively fast

902
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: given their size. Their breakout scores are pretty similar thirty

903
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: eight and thirty seven, and you can see the overlay

904
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: of the spider chart like they look pretty similar within

905
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: highly Justice speed score, the four metric I just talked

906
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: about breakout score, Highly Justice Speed score, height and weight.

907
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Washington was better on a per rout run basis. I

908
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: think he was a better prospect in general. You know,

909
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: I know that Washington has been used as like a crazy,

910
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, fantasy, you know type asset. But Washington still

911
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: I think was a better was a better prospect than

912
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: what we're looking at here is better per route run numbers.

913
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Rauh's kind of weak actually in most route per route

914
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: run numbers.

915
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Washington was also elite and average up of target and

916
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: yact per reception, so he not only was getting targets

917
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: on the field, but then he was also creating a

918
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: lot after those catches. And Roush was not used downfield,

919
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: so it's not a one to one comparison in terms

920
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: of usage. But I do think if you were to

921
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: find a comp for the big bodied Roush, it would

922
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: probably be Darnell Washington in this class Roush.

923
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: Is a smart guy too. JJ went to Stanford and uh,

924
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: did you ever see his like some of those player pictures. Yeah,

925
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: they had with with the with the tape. I don't

926
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: know if I can wait, what do you what do

927
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: you with the like you're like in the media guide

928
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: your picture his if you look up Sam Rausch, he

929
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: had like the glasses and the tape in the middle.

930
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So just a nerdy, well

931
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: nerdy guy that goes to Stanford. All right. Next we've

932
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: got another guy who went to a prestigious university, smart guy,

933
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: Eli Stowers.

934
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll talk.

935
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: We're obviously I'm gonna just talk about the higher end

936
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: prospects in this class. For the most part, Eli Stowers

937
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: does look a decent bit like Sam Laporta. You can

938
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: see though in this in this chart that so green

939
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: is Stours and the blue is Laporta, and Stours you know,

940
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: looks better in a lot of the production metrics.

941
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: But but we do have a little bit more weight

942
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: to Laporta.

943
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: He's six pounds heavier and he's sixty three versus Stowurs

944
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: being six fours.

945
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a you know, just.

946
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: Frame difference between the two breakout scores, though they were

947
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: both ninetieth percentile almost identical.

948
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: Breakout scores for Laporta and Stours.

949
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: Career yards per out run eighty second to the ninety

950
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: fourth percentile for those guys at two point three four

951
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: for Stours, which is crazy, and one point eight nine

952
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: for Laporta. Stowers had a little bit better of a

953
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: first downs per route run rate but fairly comparable eighty

954
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: seven to ninety seven percentile, and their career A dots

955
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: they were used kind of close through to the line

956
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: of scrimmage sub fiftieth percentile A dots. Stours though overall

957
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: man like just an elite production profile, crazy production profile

958
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: for him. I think the biggest differentiator between Stowurs and

959
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Laporta is also athleticism, Like Stours was more of an

960
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: athlete at the combine.

961
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: He broke the record for a jump right right.

962
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: But but I'm even just talking about speed score. You

963
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: get ninety second percentile to eighty first percentile between the

964
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: two of them. So yeah, like I think Stowar is

965
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: a better prospect. You know, Laporta is obviously hit at

966
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: the next level, so it's you know, hard for us

967
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: to say, like Stowards is better than the Porta, but

968
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: as prospects, I liked Laporta a lot coming out too.

969
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: But Stowers I think just looks better. It's just I

970
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the blocking. I think it is

971
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: the blocking as to why his draft capital isn't higher

972
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: than it is. Because realistically, when you go side by

973
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: side of Stowars to Kenyan Sadik, you could easily make

974
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: the argument that Stowers looks like a better receiver, you know,

975
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: like he's the better you would make the argument that

976
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: he's the better pass catcher, fantasy asset, all the above.

977
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: It's just really hard to reconcile, you know, fifteenth overall

978
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: draft capital, nineteenth overall dra capital.

979
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: Versus fiftieth overall draft capital. Like that's the main problem

980
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: between the two of them.

981
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: You remember last year we thought we had we knew

982
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: which tight end would be drafted first, and then we

983
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: had a you know a little bit of an audible there.

984
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 3: We got a little bit surprised. Do you think that's

985
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: possible this year?

986
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to happen to that degree

987
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: because even if you look at NFL, I'm trying to

988
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: pull it up. If you look at NFL mock draft

989
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: database and you have the consensus big boards. Last year,

990
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: there was not the same kind of difference like right now,

991
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now, Kenyon Sidik is at

992
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: seventeenth overall, Eli Stowers.

993
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: At fifty fourth overall.

994
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: Okay, for context, last year at tight end, Tyler Warren

995
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: was eighth overall and Colson Lovelan was fifteenth overall. So

996
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: like both of them, like like, Tyler Warren was looked

997
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: at similar to Kenyon Sidik. Let's say, I mean he

998
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: was technically looked at even more favorably h and Colston

999
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Lovelin that that gap was just not that significant and

1000
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: not significant enough.

1001
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 2: And I think that the you know.

1002
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: Like like Loveland also when you factor in draft capital,

1003
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: is the best prospect of the four of those guys

1004
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: like he in the model, he is a perfect score.

1005
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, there's only a handful of guys that have

1006
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: a score of one hundred, and he's one of them.

1007
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: And so I think I think Loveland is the better

1008
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: prospect of all those guys. If Stours went fifteenth overall

1009
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: or you know, tenth overall or something, then I do

1010
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: think that would make the argument that he would be

1011
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: just as good, but I just don't think he's going

1012
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: to see that kind.

1013
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: Of draft capital.

1014
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: All right, big Eli sours fan here. Let's get on

1015
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: to another guy I'm a fan of on the comp side.

1016
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 3: That's Chig a Conquo. You have Oscar Delp in Chig

1017
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: being the comps here.

1018
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Delp six'.

1019
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: Five he's a little bit taller than a Con, quo you,

1020
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: know he weighs a little bit. MORE A conqo is

1021
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: just kind of a smaller tight. End he's, honestly A

1022
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: conquo would fit really well in this class because we

1023
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: get a lot of undersized tight ends in this, class

1024
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: just guys who are like around that two four. Range

1025
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: both of, them though didn't have the best max adjusted

1026
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: yards per team pass ten numbers in. College their breakout

1027
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: scores were not very. Strong you get eighteen point five

1028
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: or eighteen point six For delp and twenty point five

1029
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: for A, conkuo and their career yards per out run

1030
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: one point two to three and one point one. One

1031
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: neither of them are that. Strong but what you have

1032
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: is again relatively similar size players. HERE i Think delp

1033
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: overall is just a better, prospect but the the when

1034
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: you Adjust delp's pro day, numbers which he had a

1035
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: great pro day from a measurement, standpoint he had a

1036
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen highly justice speed.

1037
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: Score chig was at one.

1038
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: TWELVE i think the big differentiator between the two of

1039
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: them is That delp has a seventy nine PERCENTILE yak per.

1040
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Reception chig was in the thirty seven. Percentile and there

1041
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: was also a HIGHER a dot For delp Versus. Chig,

1042
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: LIKE i Think delp has a lot more than he's

1043
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: bringing to the table than A conquo did as a.

1044
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: Prospect and we liked A conquo because there was athleticism,

1045
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: there there was the pass get like, like there was

1046
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: this this you, know year one he had a great

1047
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: yards per our run rate and such.

1048
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: LIKE i Think delp is a pretty good.

1049
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Prospect i'm interested to see what happens with, Him BUT

1050
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: i don't want to overstate only the athleticism because we

1051
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: do often see that when we do, that and we

1052
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: when there's not any sort of backbone at all from

1053
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: a receiving, standpoint it can get you in. TROUBLE i

1054
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's receiving profiles like that that, egregious but

1055
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: it's definitely below.

1056
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: Average it's not the best that we've.

1057
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: Seen, Okay next we've Got Max claire being compared To Greg.

1058
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Dulcic, yes also someone's asking in chat about touching on

1059
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: the LOWER a dots for tight ends being a positive.

1060
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: SIGNAL i don't know if it's a positive. Signal i'm

1061
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: not taking THE a.

1062
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: Dot stuff as a negative signal, though just to be, clear,

1063
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: right because, yes it could be a get the ball

1064
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: in his hands kind of. Situation i'm mostly noting that

1065
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: typically there's an inverse correlation WITH a dot AND, yak

1066
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: and so when you have you, know like just think about,

1067
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: It like you get a, screen, right you should be

1068
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: able to GENERATE yak off that screen versus.

1069
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: One that's just like down the.

1070
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Field but there's also sam size issues that you run

1071
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: into with yak and stuff.

1072
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: Like it's not it's not, really it's not a point

1073
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: in the.

1074
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: Model it's not anything that we're like hang our hat,

1075
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: on you, know the yak. Stuff but it's just an

1076
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: interesting data point to show the difference in how these

1077
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: guys were used in college and deployed in. College All,

1078
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: Right Max clair Versus Greg Dolcich claire six' four.

1079
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: Doulcage six they're almost.

1080
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Identical inside this is actually one of the BEST comps

1081
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: i think on, today's episode because you have almost, identical

1082
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: sizes almost identical heighth adjusted, speed scores they're they're max

1083
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: adjusted yards per team pass attempt were both elite ninety

1084
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: fourth percentile. Are better their breakout scores ninety fourth percent tile.

1085
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: Are better so you're looking at like like decent, enough size,

1086
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: you know not, amazingly huge but decent. Enough size where

1087
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: their speed their high adjusted speed scores kind of mid

1088
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: overall for as. Tight end but they had really good

1089
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: collegiate production and dolc and there should be probably similar

1090
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: draft capital. As, well again the, Biggest differentiator claire had

1091
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: a much lower aid die uh and then a lower.

1092
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: React perception And THEN brandon i was Talking to brandon about,

1093
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: these comps and he brought up that he Thinks that

1094
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: claire is like a lesser version Of Like, mark andrews

1095
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: if you want to think of a of a player

1096
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: that he would. Look to and then and then, you

1097
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: know he, shared uh some comparisons, And stuff but it

1098
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: was hard for me to get away From the Dulsage

1099
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: comp if you just look at, this chart it's like

1100
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: the same exact, freaking, Thing right like it's just. It's

1101
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: crazy it's like the same kind. Of PROFILE so i

1102
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: think that's what we're working with With.

1103
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: With claire And.

1104
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: Like dulsage hasn't really panned out IN. THE nfl i,

1105
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: understand that but we. Like him that doesn't Mean that

1106
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: claire won't, You, know.

1107
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah we liked him like when He, was, yeah yeah.

1108
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: There was a there was a time that you could

1109
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: sell if you.

1110
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: Wanted, to him, you, know, yeah, yeah yeah there there's a.

1111
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: Positive spin you could have sold him. For more. All, Right,

1112
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: next oh there's there's the uh. THE headshot i, was

1113
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 3: like where did? IT go I know i pasted?

1114
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: It, here yeah so we'll delete that out.

1115
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Of, there, yeah oh.

1116
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: There's there's more. Than one how how many times did you?

1117
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: PASTE that i, was like where this?

1118
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: IS going i was pacing it in. The column it

1119
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: did not, it was but.

1120
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: It wasn't an.

1121
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Inappropriate Picture Uh kenyan Sidik and Noah FANT now i

1122
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: want to say a few things. About this there's a

1123
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of people who are Down on sadik because his

1124
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: comps are not.

1125
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: Very strong not not just for the late Round.

1126
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: Prospect guide i'm saying, in general like it's hard to

1127
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: find very good comps that end up being like Awesome For.

1128
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: KENYAN sidik i think the best one that's Reasonable Is,

1129
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: evan ingram who's our third comp, for him and that

1130
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: would be a. DECENT outcome i know that people, are,

1131
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: Like Oh, Evan ingram it's like he's had a great

1132
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: career from a, production standpoint let's, stop.

1133
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: This right.

1134
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: The One thing i'll, say though is that with tight

1135
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: end and, finding comps there aren't as many tight ends

1136
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: to choose from, in general and then on top, of

1137
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: that they're only a handful of tight ends who are truly.

1138
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: Elite and fantasy football to. Begin with and so most

1139
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: comps that you're gonna see are gonna be of like

1140
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: non uber productive fantasy assets because there aren't many uber

1141
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: productive fantasy assets a tight end to. Begin, With right

1142
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: So the.

1143
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: Noah fan comp is, very REAL and i do think

1144
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: there's a very real Chance That kenyan sadik goes down

1145
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: this path as. A pro like that he's just an

1146
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: athlete and not it doesn't really translate that well to

1147
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: production and to being on the field and to being a.

1148
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: Great star in.

1149
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: The league but just because there are these comps doesn't

1150
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: mean that there's not an outcome Here where sadik does,

1151
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: really well because there just aren't many comps in general for, tight,

1152
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: ends right they just don't exist the same way that

1153
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: they do it wide receiver or even. Running Back so

1154
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: sadika is, Sixty three fan, Six four sadik two, Forty

1155
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: one fan two, forty nine so similar. Enough BMIs they

1156
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: both had elite height adjustine speed scores ninety six PERCENTILE

1157
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: plus I mean sadiq's is like one hundred percentile adjusted

1158
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: yards per team, pass attempt relatively similar. Breakout scores You

1159
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: have sadik at sixty two, point three You have fan

1160
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: at sixty six. Point three career yards per out run

1161
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: one point seven to two one point, eight one so

1162
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: seventy fourth to seventy nine.

1163
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: PERCENT tile a lot of this.

1164
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: Linees, up again the difference is going back to, a

1165
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: Dot where sadik had a REALLY low a Dot and

1166
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: fan had a really high a dot. Throughout college but

1167
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: that's really that's really the differentiator, to me and maybe

1168
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: there is signal that they Were using sadik closer to

1169
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: the line because they want to get in the. Ball,

1170
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: regardless uh, YOU know I think sadiq is still a

1171
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: good prospect despite the fact that, YOU.

1172
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: KNOW. O j howard pops Up Or noah fant. Pops

1173
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: up it's like comps four tight ends are naturally going.

1174
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: To suck they're just not gonna be. That good you're

1175
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: not gonna Get brock bowers for many. Tight ends if any,

1176
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: tight end, you know it's just not. Gonna happen and

1177
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: so don't be too discouraged if you see a Guy

1178
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: like fant for such a, you know highly touted prospect Like.

1179
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: Like, sadiq yeah people will get offended by This comp

1180
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: just so.

1181
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: We're, Clear Yeah I'm i'm i'm ready, and PREPARED and.

1182
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: I understand i THINK there i understand.

1183
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Like why they would feel that way or why they

1184
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: might be Low. ONES sadik i don't think he's a

1185
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: flawless prospect. At all, you know it's just that this

1186
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: draft class in general just kind. Of sucks AND so

1187
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: i say it kind. OF sucks i think the wide

1188
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: receivers are, finding good the tight ends are. Finding good

1189
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: but when you're talking about like high, end talent you

1190
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: don't you Only Have jeremiah love a.

1191
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: Running back there's no great quarterbacks other Than. Maybe mendoza

1192
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: and so now all of, a sudden in a super flex,

1193
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: rookie draft you're in the middle of the first round and, you're,

1194
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: Like yeah i'll just take the.

1195
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: Traits Guy in sadik who got top fifteen. Draft capital, you,

1196
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: KNOW like I guess i'll go. That direction but there

1197
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: are some red, flags, here.

1198
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: Understood understood and people just have to it might be

1199
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: good for them just to reset. Expectations, too yeah like

1200
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: the as far as the range of. Outcomes GO and

1201
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: i understand about resetting expectations because that's where we talking. About,

1202
00:55:49,120 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: next okay as we close, this up. SAY goodbye i

1203
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: want to just put out there, THAT yes i am

1204
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 3: thirteenth and there are there are not too many teams

1205
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: in this uh in this late rounders bracket because it

1206
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: was a late edition in our DISCORD and i was.

1207
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: First Place now i'm, thirteenth PLACE and i just want

1208
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: To Give brandon godoula his flowers as being the nine

1209
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: ninth percentile and having a score of nine eighty well.

1210
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Done ninety nine point seven percentile bracket From. For, goadula,

1211
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah i'm In the i'm in the seventy ninth

1212
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: percentile now After the Duke in tennessee els.

1213
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: And shout out to becoming a best ball bro Co

1214
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 3: Host rich ryan for being, third place so he has

1215
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: a path to. Win this and if we, SCROLL down

1216
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: i think we Can see jju There at i'm an.

1217
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: Age, Eight yeah i'm ahead.

1218
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: Of you oh, DANG ah i accidentally pasted my brack

1219
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: my other bracket in my.

1220
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Home league get us, out here get us out.

1221
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: Of here you have. One sheet whatever happened to the sheet?

1222
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: Of integrity what happened?

1223
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: TO this i have one BRACKET that i just put

1224
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: into every every POOL that. I have i know that's

1225
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: not good, game theory but that's what you gotta do

1226
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: if you have.

1227
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 2: Any integrity, I'm sorry I'M sorry.

1228
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: I was i was a SLIP and i did let

1229
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: people know that my, second, bracket yes nine nine point,

1230
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: eight percent but it is what. It Is brandon godoula

1231
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: also made fun of me a little bit in, our, chat,

1232
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: saying yes is like. My girlfriend she doesn't, go here,

1233
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: you know but she. Definitely exists and then he came, back,

1234
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: SAYING oh i made. A change i should Have picked arizona.

1235
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: To, win yeah but it's also it's also like when

1236
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: you you know you're in your home league and, you're,

1237
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: LIKE yeah i might have gotten tenth in my, home

1238
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: LEAGUE but i won so many, other leagues, you know like.

1239
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: Anyone, cares yeah no one cares about.

1240
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: Your bracket most people don't care about your fantasy team. AS,

1241
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: well jj we did have have a Question From. Ranch

1242
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: dressing do You Remember? Ranch? Dressing yeah from? The.

1243
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: Condiment.

1244
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah well also the guy who would he was

1245
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: in a lot of OUR our Q and. A, sessions

1246
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: yeah but, He, Said hida Jay, AND kitchen i have

1247
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: emerged from my fantasy seclusion In The? West wing are

1248
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: You The jeffrey Lebowski to? Kitchen's brandt did you did

1249
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: you Ever Watch? West?

1250
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: Wing, no yeah.

1251
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: Me, either okay, sorry GUYS.

1252
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: Now i thought you might have watched What Political Yeah?

1253
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: West wing that is just a. Political. Show, yeah yeah,

1254
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:45,959
Speaker 3: all right important news or important Reminders From will route

1255
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: don't believe any breaking news you.

1256
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: See, today yeah we didn't have A Single april fool's

1257
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: Joke Because april fools. Is dumb that's. My stance as you,

1258
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: get older it loses a little bit of.

1259
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Its luster oh, my gosh because people make it. Too,

1260
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: realistic yeah it's. Too much like my wife this morning

1261
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: told me that she has to go on a work

1262
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: trip the week we get back, from vacation and it's

1263
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: like a very. Believable Story and, i'm, like oh let

1264
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: me check. My calendar And then she's just sitting, there

1265
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Smirking and, i'm.

1266
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: Like you've got to.

1267
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: Be Kidding, she okay why do kind of love that?

1268
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: Your Wife?

1269
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: April fools? Do you why is?

1270
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: That?

1271
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: Good no One like, I'm, Sorry no, i'm sorry that. Is,

1272
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: Awesome no and we're big fans of your wife. Around here.

1273
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: You know we voted. For her her bench the.

1274
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: Cow, bench yeah if you guys Are In, north carolina

1275
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: there is a bench in the middle of the town

1276
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: that is a cow because there's a Ben in jerry's

1277
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: and they had a contest to name it and we

1278
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: named it and. We won with the help of.

1279
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: The Discord The late round Community surrounded amanda with all

1280
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: sorts of votes. And support, so yeah shout Out to

1281
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: amanda For For, april fools AND you jj shout out

1282
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: to everyone, for, liking subscribing leaving a comment, that's positive

1283
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: a positive review on. A podcast you can leave.

1284
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: Negative reviews just make it like a, reasonable thing, you

1285
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: know like not SOMETHING that i didn't. Even SAY if

1286
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: i ruined your team, last, year fine you know that's.

1287
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: Gonna happen, but yeah just. Make it make it a.

1288
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: Real thing THAT'S what i care about most as, a

1289
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: well we won't get into the. ENNEAGRAM stuff i.

1290
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Care about not. Being misinterpreted it's very important. To, me

1291
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: okay so if you're gonna misinterpret me and then give

1292
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 1: me a, bad rating it hurts me in. My core

1293
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: but if you want to give me a bad rating

1294
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: because OF something i actually, did, say fair.

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