Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you all for tuning in for
Speaker 1: this week's episode. I'm Peanut, and as always, I got
Speaker 1: my trusted guy room with me. What's up. Well, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's just an episode. This is a whole
Speaker 1: experience right now. And before we jump into this experience,
Speaker 1: all right, I want to first of all, thank all
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Speaker 1: anywhere else you get it. So with all that being said,
Speaker 1: thank you again, and let's set the scene right now, Peanut,
Speaker 1: we are at Super Bowl fifty seven Radio Row. This
Speaker 1: is my first time. I've been here numerous times, it's
Speaker 1: never done Radio Row. This is my first time. It's
Speaker 1: kind of cool, it's early, it's kind of weird. I
Speaker 1: don't like how security keeps checking my freaking bads. You
Speaker 1: are getting a little get it gets a little chapped.
Speaker 1: I'm a little chapped about this, all right, But we're
Speaker 1: gonna get over it and we're gonna move on. So
Speaker 1: Kansas City versus Philadelphia, it's already super Bowl fifty seven, Peanuts,
Speaker 1: it's three days, six hours, and fifty minutes until the game.
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Who you got? I got you? How did
Speaker 1: you know? It was a big screen that? How did
Speaker 1: you know that? So impressed? I'm a math guy. I'm
Speaker 1: a math I want to university in LA like weth
Speaker 1: all Day. Don't know it is a huge screen right here.
Speaker 1: I did not see until right now. And Peanutic is correct.
Speaker 1: Uh everything at UL is pretty good because I just
Speaker 1: found out last night that Peanut was actually part of
Speaker 1: the student government Association at UL. This man is a
Speaker 1: pretty big time. He has his college ring on which
Speaker 1: everybody gets confused for a super Bowl championship ring. I
Speaker 1: let him know it. It's not a super Bowl ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they really looked at the details, they would know
Speaker 1: that it's a college ring. Whatever did you do? You
Speaker 1: have a college ring the national championship ring? And uh no,
Speaker 1: we stuck when I was there if you know this,
Speaker 1: and but I do have the real ring, so I'm
Speaker 1: the one that I'm over too. Well. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go there. I was gonna kind of let it
Speaker 1: just kind of happen over time that we talked about.
Speaker 1: You know, this is super Bowl for the seven. Peanut
Speaker 1: has been the two super Bowls. I have to I'm
Speaker 1: over to year one. In one we lost one together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you take all the steam off all my jokes
Speaker 1: when you say it first. But yes, Peanut is over too.
Speaker 1: I am one of one. I hate you so much.
Speaker 1: I try not to bring it up because I don't
Speaker 1: think I would lose the Super Bowl if you weren't
Speaker 1: on my team. But I wouldn't much rather be on
Speaker 1: my team and me get to know. If I would
Speaker 1: have played in the second one, I think we could
Speaker 1: have won it. I mean if I started, I started all.
Speaker 1: If I would have played, I think we'd work. But
Speaker 1: we got some um, we got some important guests you know,
Speaker 1: lined up this week. We got some We got some
Speaker 1: stuff today. We got some stuff tomorrow. Uh. We got
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders coming on. Uh, Brian Dawkins, one of my
Speaker 1: former teammates, Brandon Marshall. We got a whole crew of
Speaker 1: people lined up. So y'all gotta stay tuned in and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. We got some good stuff coming. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to you know, Number one, I still don't
Speaker 1: know how to address Dion, whether it's Prime Coach, Prime,
Speaker 1: the MR. I mean, he's so legendary. He is what
Speaker 1: every dB looked up to. He's literally on my wall.
Speaker 1: I just call him Dean. Yeah, I just I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: But I'm still kind of nervous. But anyways, so when
Speaker 1: I meet Hall of famers, I get really nervous. That
Speaker 1: was probably about the most normal I've been, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm yeah, I just I get nervous. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this this is a goal. This is a gold jacket.
Speaker 1: I know people get nervous with like Rhanna and man,
Speaker 1: gold jacket ain't but a hundred three hundred something like that.
Speaker 1: So magic, pan up when you get the call, because
Speaker 1: I'll be there, um not in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: but when you get the call for you to go
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, hope. So will you be
Speaker 1: nervous when you look at yourself in the mirror, like damn,
Speaker 1: Like look at that guy, like are you gonna practice it?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna wear it? Or like my coat, I'm
Speaker 1: wearing my coat to go to the gas station. I'm
Speaker 1: it's I'm I'm a one. That thing in the middle
Speaker 1: of damn January in Chicago. I'm gonna get some gas
Speaker 1: in my coat, Like I'm I am not taking the record,
Speaker 1: not taking it off for a year. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to give me multiple I'm I'm wearing it with it.
Speaker 1: I got my coat on right now. I also want
Speaker 1: to know, do they when you get a gold jacket, like,
Speaker 1: do you just take that to the cleaners? Do you
Speaker 1: ever get it dirty? Do you do you ever do
Speaker 1: things where all these these things would happen. I think
Speaker 1: that's a very uh a good question. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll find out at some point in time. Well, anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Today, we're gonna it is
Speaker 1: Thursday before the super Bowl. We're gonna have a special
Speaker 1: episode released today. We're gonna release another one tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: then we're also gonna release one on Saturday before the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. So three episodes coming up for you. We're
Speaker 1: very thankful. I can't wait to get all these guests
Speaker 1: out here. It's gonna be a great time and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy Radio Rod for my first time. So me
Speaker 1: and Peanut, let's go and get it and uh, let's
Speaker 1: have a good time, bro and stay tuned because we've
Speaker 1: got Dion coming up. We're joined by Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: NFL cornerback and now head football coach of the University
Speaker 1: of Colorado, Mr Dion You know what you do? You think?
Speaker 1: Hey man, we just we're trying to follow suit. You know,
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. First of all, let's just be honest.
Speaker 1: If you're a defensive back in the world at any
Speaker 1: point time, that's my age or probably younger. Now that
Speaker 1: you look up to Dion Sanders, you are, you are
Speaker 1: the man you are. I had to release the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. I had to shoes. I got him in,
Speaker 1: I got and we got right now. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: the red and one you had him in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Thought that was the best color combo out of all
Speaker 1: of them, really hot ones. And I didn't do the
Speaker 1: strap either. I would not strap. I would not. You
Speaker 1: was laming if you strapped it completely. Well, you know
Speaker 1: the strap was because we had I used to spat.
Speaker 1: We all sat up up so that situated the dispatch.
Speaker 1: So it was always a purpose to everything. I used
Speaker 1: it for basketball shoes, Oh that was that was my thing.
Speaker 1: I used it for basketball, but I ain't even playing mine.
Speaker 1: I bought mine when I was like, I ain't nothing
Speaker 1: of them and it was too big. You know, you
Speaker 1: brought him in junior, don't grow and it just I
Speaker 1: just hung on to him though. It's all good though,
Speaker 1: but Prime, I would can we call you Prime man?
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it? All right? This is your question
Speaker 1: that a lot of people on the outside want to know,
Speaker 1: and I would love to know your opinion too, because
Speaker 1: it's something about when you talk to more old school
Speaker 1: guys in football versus new school guys getting credit. This
Speaker 1: another who are your top five defensive players of all time?
Speaker 1: Not getting an order I'm not getting because somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: be sensidive because when I said, they get sencidive. That's
Speaker 1: why I've never ranked dvs rank. I do like L
Speaker 1: T S lists. I think it's it's misguided where I stand,
Speaker 1: but I do like it. I do like it. That's
Speaker 1: why we asked you because LT said number one was
Speaker 1: l T all right, of course, which I hope you
Speaker 1: would put yourself. One. Two was Reggie White, three Deacon Jones.
Speaker 1: Then he had four Dion Sanders and then five Nie
Speaker 1: So at least you were the first defensive back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. Shoot it's man just thinking about these
Speaker 1: type of players. It's some guys that really change. You
Speaker 1: can't get on the list unless you really changed the game.
Speaker 1: Change the game. You gotta change the game. Meyl blunt us,
Speaker 1: Come on, Manyl, he changed the game. They changed the
Speaker 1: rules because of male blunt his physicality. Shoot, that's who
Speaker 1: you were, y'all were male blunts, you know. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's what Peanut does, all right. So I gotta just
Speaker 1: know because now you see, I gotta go off to
Speaker 1: go off a little bit. Now, Tiffany's is trying to
Speaker 1: do a little whistle thing. Yeah, they're trying to bring
Speaker 1: out a whistle as a necklace. Now they don't know
Speaker 1: who did it first. They do, I will know. I
Speaker 1: want the people who did it first, because as a coach,
Speaker 1: you gotta war your whistle. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: coach with that whistle. I've been wearing my whistle since
Speaker 1: my boys are young. And I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coached. Now, I'm validated like the like the
Speaker 1: check on the ground. I'm validated as a coach. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta take the whistle to theother level. I hear that,
Speaker 1: so I put you know, the goal. What's with the
Speaker 1: Damna's in it? Now? Prime, here's another question. Now, I
Speaker 1: want you to give us a deep dive in just
Speaker 1: in who you are and what you want your legacy
Speaker 1: to be as a coach. As a coach, as you said,
Speaker 1: that is it? What is it getting guys to the league?
Speaker 1: Is it getting guys paid? Is graduating all your players? Like?
Speaker 1: What exactly if I win a national championship? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: when when I win a national championship and we don't
Speaker 1: graduate seven percent kids? Did I win? So? When we
Speaker 1: win a national championship, ninety seven percent of your kids graduate,
Speaker 1: but fifteen of them are having kids, you know, before marriage,
Speaker 1: and you know they're not ready to be fathers. Did
Speaker 1: I win? It's so many different aspects of winning. You
Speaker 1: gotta really seriously take a look at that. And mine
Speaker 1: is is like the wholeness of a person. I want
Speaker 1: these guys that went on the field, off the field,
Speaker 1: in the community and at home um as well as
Speaker 1: in the classroom. That's a win for me. So it's
Speaker 1: it's the entire man to develop the entire human being
Speaker 1: to get him to the next level that he can't
Speaker 1: even fat them right now, that's a win. It next
Speaker 1: level in life. Not even just nine of these kids
Speaker 1: ain't going to pros. So I focus is on the nine.
Speaker 1: The five got this, five y'all, y'all had this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I put my efforts in my
Speaker 1: staff and my team to make sure that ninety five
Speaker 1: is ready for the world. Now when did you and
Speaker 1: I know at some point you said you realize it
Speaker 1: was too much like getting shined on yourself, and you
Speaker 1: made the conscious decision to try to shine or not
Speaker 1: excuse me, try to shine like on others. At what
Speaker 1: moment in time or in your life did you make
Speaker 1: that decision? It's always been like that, honestly, because I
Speaker 1: understand I had to build a brand to make sure
Speaker 1: I take care of my mother and secure my mother
Speaker 1: for the rest of the life. That I promised it
Speaker 1: when I was seven. But in the journey of building that,
Speaker 1: I've always looked out for this one or that one,
Speaker 1: of this one of the family or this one. I've
Speaker 1: always done that with my teammates as well as the community.
Speaker 1: I've always been that way. But people don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that. When you pray, they won't prime. They didn't
Speaker 1: want du So that's the dichotomy of that I got you,
Speaker 1: So tell us what you are doing with OI close.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm excited. I'm happy, um elated that
Speaker 1: this is our second year straight. We had a Supervow
Speaker 1: Commercion commercial, but we up to Annie because this year
Speaker 1: it involves the entire family. God just my mama and
Speaker 1: my son who's the quarterback, but my other son, my daughter,
Speaker 1: my sister, and it's something that we always do. We compete,
Speaker 1: you know, we could. I'm just compete, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. So we're competing right now. And
Speaker 1: I'm happy that we found a brand that could just
Speaker 1: take who we are and what we are and how
Speaker 1: we are in turning it into a commercial, especially for
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the African American family. Dad, That's what
Speaker 1: I like. I love that And not only that, but
Speaker 1: I just wish you to say that I got mama. Mama. Now, oh,
Speaker 1: I just said that, you know, I was trying to
Speaker 1: I was trying to be writing up. Y'all are so articulate.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to clean it up. You know, y'all ain't
Speaker 1: just regularly both. I've been saying both all day. Both
Speaker 1: stuff florid. Yeah know that my guy rights, like I talked,
Speaker 1: so you know, and this is the last thing. And
Speaker 1: I gotta be selfish here because I said this before
Speaker 1: the interview. How the research I did on my man Primes,
Speaker 1: the e k Emmanuel cons for all this that don't know,
Speaker 1: like me who did not know that Primes favorite glasses,
Speaker 1: that's what that wore. And your elder son lost your
Speaker 1: favorite pair, yes, like the look back, like the iconic
Speaker 1: look back when I had on, like the reverse Jackett.
Speaker 1: When I was leaving to get ready to go, get
Speaker 1: to play and play the two sports he loves, I
Speaker 1: gave him those. Man, my kids have lost so much stuff.
Speaker 1: The old jury that I had, he has lost five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. It don't seem like a lot, but then
Speaker 1: the five thousand dollars watches, you know, just just stupid
Speaker 1: stuff that so do you know, like forgetting the money.
Speaker 1: The sentimental part of this, like I handed this to
Speaker 1: you like you was the prince baby, you the bag.
Speaker 1: They just they if you don't earn it, you don't care,
Speaker 1: be good they to earn it. This is good advice.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my son watch this. And he said,
Speaker 1: not need great as to be honest with your kids.
Speaker 1: I'm honest with am I telling where they rank that,
Speaker 1: I tell them who I care about the most. Like
Speaker 1: you this month, you're like fifth. Yeah, ranking put does
Speaker 1: that and he does a really good job, not that great.
Speaker 1: You gotta rank them. You gotta let him know what
Speaker 1: they're staying. All your life, hadn't you been ranked, been
Speaker 1: subjected to criticism? They need that because guess what you're
Speaker 1: raising them? You you you raised you want a dog,
Speaker 1: but you're raising cats. Yeah, okay, you want a dog,
Speaker 1: but you're raising kids. My youngest is a dog. He
Speaker 1: lives in a cat environment. So you better make sure
Speaker 1: because the environment you grew up was totally different and
Speaker 1: that's why you where you are. So you're raising you
Speaker 1: want a dog, but we're raising cats. So you get
Speaker 1: to be hard on them at some point in time.
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm just trying to come out to Colorado.
Speaker 1: You know you want specialists. Well, if you if I
Speaker 1: could teach all your dvs how to pin up when
Speaker 1: you First of all, people don't understand for you to
Speaker 1: do what you did successfully, you had to be there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what they don't get you couldn't make
Speaker 1: a play unless you were there, understood. Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: they forget about. You were there to make they play.
Speaker 1: You can't do that if you're not there. So I
Speaker 1: want you when you come and putting you to work,
Speaker 1: you believe that let's do it. I'm walking away. I'm
Speaker 1: letting y'all do your thing. I'm promise you that I'm ready.
Speaker 1: You know. The Disturban is there too. Yeah. D T
Speaker 1: was my d C. And Jackson so he's an analyst
Speaker 1: as well, So I had to take care of my
Speaker 1: dog's Yeah, he's there too. So we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: play through of guys that from from the old school
Speaker 1: that could really enjoy that everything that you've done. Uh,
Speaker 1: not only bless the the young men who you're coaching,
Speaker 1: but also the coaching staff. And just continue to shine
Speaker 1: like man. Whenever it's beautiful. It reminds me of uh.
Speaker 1: And I never compare my younger daughter to you, but
Speaker 1: one thing I always tell her and I would tell you,
Speaker 1: is that when you shine, it literally allows so many
Speaker 1: others to signs as well. So continue to let your
Speaker 1: lighte be great continution because we need that as well,
Speaker 1: because what we're doing that thing and some bulli junk happens,
Speaker 1: which bull junk happens about four times a year, each yeah,
Speaker 1: each quarter. Yeah, And we need folks to have that
Speaker 1: back because y'all know what time it is. Appreciate being done,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you all for keeping it one hundred.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you for joining us. Appreciate, appreciate you, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Look at clean trying to be like ya.
Speaker 1: The custom dbs and changed the game. They used to
Speaker 1: think we can articulate that s but not looking at us.
Speaker 1: We everywhere. Thanks for appreciate. We gotta pay some bills.
Speaker 1: But before we go, we're honoring Black History Month troil
Speaker 1: Blazers past and present. And here's NFL legend Max Strong
Speaker 1: honoring Heisman Trophy winner Ernie Davis in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1: Ernie Davis was the first African American Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 1: As we continue to celebrate Black History Month across the league,
Speaker 1: we shared the accomplishments of the past and the president
Speaker 1: Davis High School, All American followed the Jim Brown's footsteps
Speaker 1: and starting at Syracuse University, Warren Brown's number forty four
Speaker 1: Jersey Davids put together a dominant senior year, which garnered
Speaker 1: him Heisman recognition. He was drafted number one overall by
Speaker 1: Washington in nineteen sixty two before joining his hero Jim
Speaker 1: Brown and Cleveland be a trade. Unfortunately, before Davids could
Speaker 1: play in an NFL game, he developed leukemia, an illness
Speaker 1: that would end his life tragically at mandaids of twenty three.
Speaker 1: His number forty five jersey is still retired to this day.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back the episode here and we're back
Speaker 1: at Super Bowl fifty seven at Radio Row. We have
Speaker 1: a great guest today, well this time with Mike Golic,
Speaker 1: NFL veteran, former NFL veteran, Eagles great and broadcast extraordinaire.
Speaker 1: And you know you're great when all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they start drafting your kids right behind you into the
Speaker 1: same business. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But I love good coaching.
Speaker 1: This is well, you know, if only he would admit that,
Speaker 1: it's amazing he got into this business. My son, Mike,
Speaker 1: and I thought he would be on like bended knee.
Speaker 1: Oh father, teach me the profession man. That dude came
Speaker 1: after me right away. I mean just just disagreeing with
Speaker 1: everything I was saying. I'm like, dude, come on, so
Speaker 1: when you do, you give him some advice. Now I
Speaker 1: give him bad advice the way he's coming after me. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I definitely do, but but I give him some But
Speaker 1: he's really learned along the way. You know. It was
Speaker 1: one of those where I was a tenth rounder. Again
Speaker 1: back when there were twelve rounds. I was going to say, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: yeah there and even before that there were seventeen rounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how old I am. So what you were drafted?
Speaker 1: What year? Tenth rounder? Mike was an undrafted free agent,
Speaker 1: So we all we came from the boy you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, bust your hump to get a job and stuff.
Speaker 1: So you just basically carry that over. We just carried
Speaker 1: that over into this and you know, tried to try
Speaker 1: to try to make it. Five was a good year
Speaker 1: for the Bears, a good year to get drafted. It
Speaker 1: was that will you know, we did not. William Perry
Speaker 1: was in my draft. Of the first pick my year
Speaker 1: was Bruce Smith. He was a number one pick. He
Speaker 1: was number one. I was number two fifty five, So
Speaker 1: that was a little different. The only thing we had
Speaker 1: in common was two things we played the same position
Speaker 1: and we were drafted the same year. Other than that,
Speaker 1: our our carreers went different past so I got so
Speaker 1: was it eight? I think it was eight? Eight Fall Balls, Eagles,
Speaker 1: Big Bears. Yeah. I couldn't see maybe ten fifteen yards
Speaker 1: the during that game because they didn't want to postponent
Speaker 1: I remember being on fielding the rough the stand in
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line and he was talking in his
Speaker 1: microphone to the to the upstairs and he said, yes,
Speaker 1: I can see both goal posts from here. I looked
Speaker 1: at me and I said, what the hell are you
Speaker 1: looking at, dude? I can't see fifteen yards that way.
Speaker 1: There'd be a play to the outside and the person
Speaker 1: would disappear, but they didn't want to postpone it. So
Speaker 1: whoever was going to be ahead in that game by
Speaker 1: the time it rolled in was gonna win. And that
Speaker 1: was yeah. So what's what's your fondest memory of that
Speaker 1: of that of that game? Nothing, because we lost and
Speaker 1: I couldn't see anything. I mean, it was it was
Speaker 1: probably a memory, and I guess it wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: fond memory. Is Listen, we've all played a long time,
Speaker 1: whether Little League all the way through the NFL, so
Speaker 1: we played in snow, sleet, rain, all wind. I have
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. When we all saw the
Speaker 1: fog rolling in off the lake. First we thought it
Speaker 1: was fireworks and smoke from that, but then it just
Speaker 1: kept coming in and all of a sudden we were engulfed.
Speaker 1: It was something none of us on either team had
Speaker 1: ever seen any buddy throw the ball right, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: short passes, okay, because there would be. They tried a
Speaker 1: couple of longer passes, and I kid you not. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're rushing and then they throw the ball and
Speaker 1: you look and you just see the ball disappear, and
Speaker 1: you literally don't know the For all I know, the
Speaker 1: ball could have bounced right into a receiver's hands and
Speaker 1: they could have said it was a reception. Had no
Speaker 1: idea it was. It was crazy store alone. It's gonna
Speaker 1: bounce off the ground. But I'm a pick it up act.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I think of what you
Speaker 1: could have got away with no more contact contact. You're
Speaker 1: doing that anyway, right? You got to nowadays with the
Speaker 1: way the rules are. That's true. You want any kind
Speaker 1: of edge you can get as a defense you're trying
Speaker 1: to take you guys are The worst position at all
Speaker 1: is secondary guys. Now, it's horrible the line is now
Speaker 1: considering what you have to do with the quarterback, I mean,
Speaker 1: if it could today. Yeah, that's the question I wanted
Speaker 1: to come at you with was would you like? How
Speaker 1: would you like? What is your opinion on if you
Speaker 1: had to play in days era? So I was raised.
Speaker 1: You know, my dad played football in the Canadian Football League.
Speaker 1: He's a former Marine, big, strong, tough dude. And the
Speaker 1: way they taught football back then was when you tackle somebody,
Speaker 1: you run through them and you land on him and
Speaker 1: try and plan them. That was legal. You know people
Speaker 1: might hear that and go, oh my god, but that
Speaker 1: was what you did. We had a guy, Clyde Simmons
Speaker 1: who would come off the edge and he would we
Speaker 1: call it the tuck, suck and drop. He would tuck
Speaker 1: the quarterback's arm and suck him up and drop him right.
Speaker 1: He separated three one again. It's that that's the technique.
Speaker 1: But you were to do it now, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's so unfair a for dbs they have to
Speaker 1: pull off the way they do, and for d lineman
Speaker 1: when you're tackling a guy, what the hell are you
Speaker 1: supposed to do. I'm supposed to twist in mid air,
Speaker 1: so I don't land on him. It's earlier. I understand
Speaker 1: the safety part of it, but I think they're breaking
Speaker 1: too many eggs to make this omelet of times for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. So you've been in success with TV radio
Speaker 1: pod play by play, like, what's been ultimately your your
Speaker 1: favorite platform that you've been doing well from from? It's
Speaker 1: interesting I'll answer this way. First. People always say, do
Speaker 1: you want to be remembered more as a football player broadcast?
Speaker 1: I said, are you kidding me? I said, I've never
Speaker 1: woken up from a dream and said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a great segment that was. It was always man
Speaker 1: with a great hit I had in that quarter. As
Speaker 1: far as broadcasting, I love doing a daily live show,
Speaker 1: especially in the morning, because people are on their way
Speaker 1: to work. I'd like to make them laugh a little bit,
Speaker 1: maybe take them inside the locker room or on the field.
Speaker 1: But in all honestly, I would say doing color commentary
Speaker 1: for games because now you're at the game, you're still
Speaker 1: kind of involved in the game, You're still involved with
Speaker 1: the players. So for this one, like I do the
Speaker 1: the the call for Westwood One, the national radio partner
Speaker 1: for the NFL. So I'll be in on the in
Speaker 1: the call for this game for the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of fun. I love being involved
Speaker 1: like that. I think I saw one of your first
Speaker 1: TV gigs back. I want to say when you first retired,
Speaker 1: and I think you you hosted like a Bloopers did. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did. I used. I used to watch that. I
Speaker 1: hosted that that I was I was playing with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: we still playing host. I was playing at hosting. I
Speaker 1: would do a lot of that in the off season. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'd get a lot of shows in the camp. One
Speaker 1: year we did ten shows in Hawaii. I'm like, hell,
Speaker 1: sign me up for this every year. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. That's kind of what got
Speaker 1: me going. And I did a piece when I was
Speaker 1: in Philly. You know, the quarterbacks get the shows they
Speaker 1: I had a piece on the Randall Cunningham Show and
Speaker 1: it so we were just a segment on his I
Speaker 1: was a segment on his show, Right Time, Right Place
Speaker 1: At won a local Lemmy And that's when the ESPN
Speaker 1: called and said, hey, we know you're still playing in
Speaker 1: the off season. You want to do some stuff with us.
Speaker 1: And and then when I was retired by the league,
Speaker 1: when nobody called anymore, luckily ESPN called at that at
Speaker 1: that point, Yeah, I definitely know that when when no,
Speaker 1: you don't want to retire, but you don't get that
Speaker 1: call and you're you're you're waiting for it. That's well,
Speaker 1: that's why I people asked me what year you're retired.
Speaker 1: I said, well, the league retired me. Yeah. Totally hate that.
Speaker 1: So you gotta you got a family podcast right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: sorry in advance, which we like to apologize to the
Speaker 1: people before they listen. Yes, it's my wife who got
Speaker 1: this single. And it's my wife, myself, my son Mike,
Speaker 1: my son Jake, his wife Jenny, and my daughter Sydney
Speaker 1: and her her husband Ben Bronncker. He played at Harvard,
Speaker 1: he played five years with the Mayors, a tight end
Speaker 1: and now he's in med school. Real underachiever. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: dude's really smart. But we have this and we just
Speaker 1: kind of go, it's not even sports, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's when we find out that, like my daughter in
Speaker 1: law and my daughter say some really dumb stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: and we laugh at them and laugh with him. It's
Speaker 1: just plus it's a great time every couple of weeks
Speaker 1: just to kind of get us all together. You told
Speaker 1: me earlier story about it was that you learned that
Speaker 1: your daughter in law about rotating times. Well, so my
Speaker 1: daughter in law thought, rotating tires meant you take it
Speaker 1: to the garage, you put it up on the jacks,
Speaker 1: and you just spin the tires. And we were like,
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen to the tires? I don't know,
Speaker 1: you just keep spinning them till they're even I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the thought process of that.
Speaker 1: But but she she was, and quite honestly, obviously nowadays
Speaker 1: you throw it out to Twitter, there were a lot
Speaker 1: of people that agreed. They were like, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. It was too. I'm like, oh my god, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like wow, I said, because you imagine, just put
Speaker 1: it up on the jack, spin the tires, all right,
Speaker 1: that will be a hunter bucks. We're ready to go.
Speaker 1: Your wife must be batting a thousand right now. Because
Speaker 1: it was her I did to come up with this podcast,
Speaker 1: and then I saw a recent uh video you did
Speaker 1: an interview. It was her who picked for Michael Mike
Speaker 1: I know, you tried out like or fourteen hosts. And
Speaker 1: then when he was on the show, he wasn't in
Speaker 1: a rotation and she was like, he's geeky, but I
Speaker 1: like him. That take him. It was exactly it I
Speaker 1: had after Tony Bruno left my original partner. There were
Speaker 1: thirteen people they brought in between Ober in December of
Speaker 1: Greeny was a fill and he was doing ESPN News
Speaker 1: and they were like, okay, one of the one of
Speaker 1: the actual candidates can't make it in, can you fill in?
Speaker 1: And I would talk to my wife after the first
Speaker 1: segment of every person and she would give me an
Speaker 1: update or what she thought. And with Greeny, quote was
Speaker 1: sounds kind of geeky, but he's the one, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: But like what made him the one? Was it? You
Speaker 1: know what? I think It was the fact that he
Speaker 1: grew up a fan and a writer. I grew up
Speaker 1: a player. You know, we were we were truly the
Speaker 1: odd couple, you know, and and so that's how we
Speaker 1: related to one another, and it just kind of worked.
Speaker 1: The chemistry was just one of those things you just
Speaker 1: it was just kind of there and it just kind
Speaker 1: of developed even more over the years. So talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about huddle up, Let's talk obesity. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: huddle up Obesity dot org as the website to go
Speaker 1: to and listen. You guys know you've seen teammates, especially
Speaker 1: from our side of it. Like when I finished playing,
Speaker 1: I was about to ninety, but you know, playing shape
Speaker 1: to ninety. Two years later, I'm three, you know, And
Speaker 1: I mean an ugly three torenty where I walked out
Speaker 1: of the shower one day and said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I need to do something. And so what I did
Speaker 1: is it was my wife and my my family who helped.
Speaker 1: So that's the biggest message I have not only for
Speaker 1: former ballplayers who go the wrong way, but everybody in
Speaker 1: general out there who are living that life. Because a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to just hide it and they're
Speaker 1: embarrassed by it, so they won't seek help, and especially men,
Speaker 1: they won't do a yearly chance. Looks like we have
Speaker 1: a physical every year. Guys won't go see doctors because
Speaker 1: we lived the life of the doctor asking you okay,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm playing. You know. Now, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys feel well, there's nothing wrong with me at the dime,
Speaker 1: I don't go to the doctor, and they don't tell
Speaker 1: me there's something wrong exactly right. My point is involve everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what. It's something you have to deal with.
Speaker 1: It's not just go on one diet. It's a lifestyle
Speaker 1: change that people need to do. But you need to
Speaker 1: do with other people. We lived in itinerary life. When
Speaker 1: to be somewhere, what to wear, what to eat? Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you gotta make your own decisions
Speaker 1: when you're done playing, and a lot of times they
Speaker 1: can lead to add decisions and unhealthy decisions, and you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to pull it back. You need a
Speaker 1: support group to do right now. As a former football player,
Speaker 1: we're all used to getting graded here, how would your
Speaker 1: wife grade you and your whole journey through this now,
Speaker 1: it obviously started out as an f when I went
Speaker 1: the wrong way, but God love her, I mean she
Speaker 1: got me into the two nineties and into the two sixties.
Speaker 1: I was also diagnosed with type two diabetes when I
Speaker 1: was in the nineties, when I was about forty two,
Speaker 1: and when I was in the two nineties, my dad
Speaker 1: had it as well. So now I had to deal
Speaker 1: with that and make sure I lost weight because of
Speaker 1: That's another thing will be so you can bring on
Speaker 1: other health issues as well. I'm now the way I
Speaker 1: was my senior year in high school, So I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel great, so I think she'd give me. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna give myself an a because I was
Speaker 1: known for eating a lot of doughnuts and cookies when
Speaker 1: I was doing radio and TV. I still do, just
Speaker 1: not as often, right. And also I find also I think,
Speaker 1: you know, people say, go, look, you look pretty good. Now.
Speaker 1: I said, well, I think I'm still worth more to
Speaker 1: my wife alive, so you know she's feeding me. Well
Speaker 1: that's the whole deal. I'm to man's bet. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I didn't know she picked your partners. She did.
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Oh yeah, yeah, like I said, that
Speaker 1: was her exact quote. Sounds kind of geeky, but he's
Speaker 1: the one and journey sev eighteen years later worked out. Okay.
Speaker 1: So one of the questions we always asked some of
Speaker 1: the guests that we have on the show, your Rushmore,
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, your personal Mount Rushmore, Who would you have
Speaker 1: for people that influenced your life that hadn't be didn't
Speaker 1: have to be fully sports right? So I was because
Speaker 1: not everybody knows. I was never one of those that
Speaker 1: had a sports idol. My father was always my hero, always,
Speaker 1: so my dad would be on on there. And then
Speaker 1: in all honesty, two other guys from my high school.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are really such formative years. The head
Speaker 1: coach there, God rest his soul, Bill got Broad was
Speaker 1: my coach in Cleveland, Ohio. St. Joe's High just laid
Speaker 1: a great foundation. And another coach who was a football
Speaker 1: coach but also my wrestling coach. Me and my brother
Speaker 1: Bob wrestled in college and at Notre Dame. John Story
Speaker 1: was his name, was an incredible, incredible developer of the
Speaker 1: whole person. And I and people always ask you and
Speaker 1: I go out and do talks, who's your idols or whatever?
Speaker 1: And I mentioned these guys. They don't know who they are,
Speaker 1: but these are the ones that influenced me. So those
Speaker 1: are the three. And I would I wouldn't imagine I
Speaker 1: have to put my mom up there. If it's not
Speaker 1: my mom, it's my wife, because my wife is truly
Speaker 1: the backbone of our family without questions. They so, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not really anybody else crazy outside of kind of
Speaker 1: who helped mold me, you know, as as a young kid. Yeah, Mike,
Speaker 1: that's a great list man. So well, thanks for coming
Speaker 1: on podcast. We appreciate you on appreciat how you got
Speaker 1: you guys digging this this world. It's really fun. Me
Speaker 1: and Peanut get to talk a lot more. He usually
Speaker 1: just cracks jokes on me. Let him do to heat more.
Speaker 1: He's I'll call him my my my darker Barbara Walters.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to you know, I'm more like laid
Speaker 1: back chill. But I'll let I'll let him take the
Speaker 1: whole thing. But I'm just I'm more laid back chill.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun not doing sports all the time.
Speaker 1: I enjoy that talk about you know who in your
Speaker 1: life knows how to rotate time because people think you
Speaker 1: just know sports, and it's nice to get to know
Speaker 1: the other side of you, the person outside. Yes, we
Speaker 1: are not just robotic athletes. Don't put us in a box.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Well we
Speaker 1: are done. It's a rap. First day in the books
Speaker 1: went It went pretty good? Would you say? I think
Speaker 1: it went excellent? Honestly, Um, I want to thank Dion
Speaker 1: Sanders coach Prime. I mean, he's the living legend that
Speaker 1: we all got to see and he was custom fit today,
Speaker 1: clean as always. Blue jean was a blue jean. It
Speaker 1: was definitely blue Jen okay, custom blue, no doubt. Mike
Speaker 1: Golick for joining us as well. Well. Spoken, amazing man.
Speaker 1: He might be one of the original goats from the transition,
Speaker 1: you know, his second career, his post that what he's
Speaker 1: doing like he he might be one of the first
Speaker 1: to go from football to TV and do it so smoothly.
Speaker 1: His transition was smooth and it's he's still killing the
Speaker 1: game right now. So so thank him as well for
Speaker 1: coming in. Man. Also, I want to thank all of
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