1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: And we're back. Thank you all for tuning in for 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: this week's episode. I'm Peanut, and as always, I got 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: my trusted guy room with me. What's up. Well, I 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's just an episode. This is a whole 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: experience right now. And before we jump into this experience, 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: all right, I want to first of all, thank all 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: of our listeners for tuning in as always, can you. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I want to make sure you guys give us a follow, 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: a rating, and a review wherever you listen to your 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: podcast at, whether it's Apple Podcast, I Heart Radio, or 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: anywhere else you get it. So with all that being said, 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: thank you again, and let's set the scene right now, Peanut, 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: we are at Super Bowl fifty seven Radio Row. This 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: is my first time. I've been here numerous times, it's 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: never done Radio Row. This is my first time. It's 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of cool, it's early, it's kind of weird. I 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: don't like how security keeps checking my freaking bads. You 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: are getting a little get it gets a little chapped. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm a little chapped about this, all right, But we're 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna get over it and we're gonna move on. So 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City versus Philadelphia, it's already super Bowl fifty seven, Peanuts, 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: it's three days, six hours, and fifty minutes until the game. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Who you got? I got you? How did 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: you know? It was a big screen that? How did 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you know that? So impressed? I'm a math guy. I'm 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: a math I want to university in LA like weth 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: all Day. Don't know it is a huge screen right here. 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I did not see until right now. And Peanutic is correct. 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Uh everything at UL is pretty good because I just 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: found out last night that Peanut was actually part of 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the student government Association at UL. This man is a 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: pretty big time. He has his college ring on which 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: everybody gets confused for a super Bowl championship ring. I 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: let him know it. It's not a super Bowl ring. Yeah, 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: if they really looked at the details, they would know 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: that it's a college ring. Whatever did you do? You 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: have a college ring the national championship ring? And uh no, 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: we stuck when I was there if you know this, 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: and but I do have the real ring, so I'm 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the one that I'm over too. Well. I didn't want 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: to go there. I was gonna kind of let it 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: just kind of happen over time that we talked about. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is super Bowl for the seven. Peanut 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: has been the two super Bowls. I have to I'm 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: over to year one. In one we lost one together. Yeah, 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: and you take all the steam off all my jokes 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: when you say it first. But yes, Peanut is over too. 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I am one of one. I hate you so much. 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: I try not to bring it up because I don't 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: think I would lose the Super Bowl if you weren't 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: on my team. But I wouldn't much rather be on 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: my team and me get to know. If I would 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: have played in the second one, I think we could 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: have won it. I mean if I started, I started all. 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: If I would have played, I think we'd work. But 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: we got some um, we got some important guests you know, 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: lined up this week. We got some We got some 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: stuff today. We got some stuff tomorrow. Uh. We got 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders coming on. Uh, Brian Dawkins, one of my 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: former teammates, Brandon Marshall. We got a whole crew of 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: people lined up. So y'all gotta stay tuned in and 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. We got some good stuff coming. I 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to you know, Number one, I still don't 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: know how to address Dion, whether it's Prime Coach, Prime, 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the MR. I mean, he's so legendary. He is what 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: every dB looked up to. He's literally on my wall. 67 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I just call him Dean. Yeah, I just I don't know, man, 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: But I'm still kind of nervous. But anyways, so when 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: I meet Hall of famers, I get really nervous. That 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: was probably about the most normal I've been, you know, 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: like I'm yeah, I just I get nervous. I'm like, man, 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: this this is a goal. This is a gold jacket. 73 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: I know people get nervous with like Rhanna and man, 74 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: gold jacket ain't but a hundred three hundred something like that. 75 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: So magic, pan up when you get the call, because 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I'll be there, um not in the Hall of Fame, 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: but when you get the call for you to go 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, hope. So will you be 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: nervous when you look at yourself in the mirror, like damn, 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Like look at that guy, like are you gonna practice it? 81 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Are you gonna wear it? Or like my coat, I'm 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: wearing my coat to go to the gas station. I'm 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: it's I'm I'm a one. That thing in the middle 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: of damn January in Chicago. I'm gonna get some gas 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: in my coat, Like I'm I am not taking the record, 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: not taking it off for a year. They're gonna have 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: to give me multiple I'm I'm wearing it with it. 88 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: I got my coat on right now. I also want 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: to know, do they when you get a gold jacket, like, 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: do you just take that to the cleaners? Do you 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: ever get it dirty? Do you do you ever do 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: things where all these these things would happen. I think 93 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: that's a very uh a good question. I don't know, 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: maybe we'll find out at some point in time. Well, anyways, 95 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Today, we're gonna it is 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Thursday before the super Bowl. We're gonna have a special 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: episode released today. We're gonna release another one tomorrow, and 98 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: then we're also gonna release one on Saturday before the 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl. So three episodes coming up for you. We're 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: very thankful. I can't wait to get all these guests 101 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: out here. It's gonna be a great time and I'm 102 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna enjoy Radio Rod for my first time. So me 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: and Peanut, let's go and get it and uh, let's 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: have a good time, bro and stay tuned because we've 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: got Dion coming up. We're joined by Hall of Fame 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: NFL cornerback and now head football coach of the University 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of Colorado, Mr Dion You know what you do? You think? 108 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Hey man, we just we're trying to follow suit. You know, 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. First of all, let's just be honest. 110 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: If you're a defensive back in the world at any 111 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: point time, that's my age or probably younger. Now that 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: you look up to Dion Sanders, you are, you are 113 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: the man you are. I had to release the Hall 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: of Fame. I had to shoes. I got him in, 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: I got and we got right now. Yeah, I got 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the red and one you had him in San Francisco. 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Thought that was the best color combo out of all 118 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: of them, really hot ones. And I didn't do the 119 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: strap either. I would not strap. I would not. You 120 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: was laming if you strapped it completely. Well, you know 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: the strap was because we had I used to spat. 122 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: We all sat up up so that situated the dispatch. 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: So it was always a purpose to everything. I used 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: it for basketball shoes, Oh that was that was my thing. 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: I used it for basketball, but I ain't even playing mine. 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I bought mine when I was like, I ain't nothing 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: of them and it was too big. You know, you 128 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: brought him in junior, don't grow and it just I 129 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: just hung on to him though. It's all good though, 130 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: but Prime, I would can we call you Prime man? 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it? All right? This is your question 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: that a lot of people on the outside want to know, 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: and I would love to know your opinion too, because 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: it's something about when you talk to more old school 135 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: guys in football versus new school guys getting credit. This 136 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: another who are your top five defensive players of all time? 137 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Not getting an order I'm not getting because somebody's gonna 138 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: be sensidive because when I said, they get sencidive. That's 139 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: why I've never ranked dvs rank. I do like L 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: T S lists. I think it's it's misguided where I stand, 141 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: but I do like it. I do like it. That's 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: why we asked you because LT said number one was 143 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: l T all right, of course, which I hope you 144 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: would put yourself. One. Two was Reggie White, three Deacon Jones. 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Then he had four Dion Sanders and then five Nie 146 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: So at least you were the first defensive back. Yeah, 147 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I like that. Shoot it's man just thinking about these 148 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: type of players. It's some guys that really change. You 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: can't get on the list unless you really changed the game. 150 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Change the game. You gotta change the game. Meyl blunt us, 151 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Come on, Manyl, he changed the game. They changed the 152 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: rules because of male blunt his physicality. Shoot, that's who 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you were, y'all were male blunts, you know. Yeah, well 154 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: that's what Peanut does, all right. So I gotta just 155 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: know because now you see, I gotta go off to 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: go off a little bit. Now, Tiffany's is trying to 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: do a little whistle thing. Yeah, they're trying to bring 158 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: out a whistle as a necklace. Now they don't know 159 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: who did it first. They do, I will know. I 160 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: want the people who did it first, because as a coach, 161 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: you gotta war your whistle. I don't know how you 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: coach with that whistle. I've been wearing my whistle since 163 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: my boys are young. And I said, you know what, 164 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm coached. Now, I'm validated like the like the 165 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: check on the ground. I'm validated as a coach. Now 166 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I gotta take the whistle to theother level. I hear that, 167 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: so I put you know, the goal. What's with the 168 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: Damna's in it? Now? Prime, here's another question. Now, I 169 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: want you to give us a deep dive in just 170 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: in who you are and what you want your legacy 171 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: to be as a coach. As a coach, as you said, 172 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that is it? What is it getting guys to the league? 173 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Is it getting guys paid? Is graduating all your players? Like? 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: What exactly if I win a national championship? I'm sorry, 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: when when I win a national championship and we don't 176 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: graduate seven percent kids? Did I win? So? When we 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: win a national championship, ninety seven percent of your kids graduate, 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: but fifteen of them are having kids, you know, before marriage, 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: and you know they're not ready to be fathers. Did 180 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: I win? It's so many different aspects of winning. You 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: gotta really seriously take a look at that. And mine 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: is is like the wholeness of a person. I want 183 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: these guys that went on the field, off the field, 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: in the community and at home um as well as 185 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: in the classroom. That's a win for me. So it's 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: it's the entire man to develop the entire human being 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: to get him to the next level that he can't 188 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: even fat them right now, that's a win. It next 189 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: level in life. Not even just nine of these kids 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: ain't going to pros. So I focus is on the nine. 191 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: The five got this, five y'all, y'all had this. Yeah, 192 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I put my efforts in my 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: staff and my team to make sure that ninety five 194 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: is ready for the world. Now when did you and 195 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I know at some point you said you realize it 196 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: was too much like getting shined on yourself, and you 197 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: made the conscious decision to try to shine or not 198 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: excuse me, try to shine like on others. At what 199 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: moment in time or in your life did you make 200 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: that decision? It's always been like that, honestly, because I 201 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: understand I had to build a brand to make sure 202 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: I take care of my mother and secure my mother 203 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: for the rest of the life. That I promised it 204 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: when I was seven. But in the journey of building that, 205 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: I've always looked out for this one or that one, 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of this one of the family or this one. I've 207 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: always done that with my teammates as well as the community. 208 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I've always been that way. But people don't want to 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: hear that. When you pray, they won't prime. They didn't 210 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: want du So that's the dichotomy of that I got you, 211 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: So tell us what you are doing with OI close. 212 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm excited. I'm happy, um elated that 213 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: this is our second year straight. We had a Supervow 214 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Commercion commercial, but we up to Annie because this year 215 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: it involves the entire family. God just my mama and 216 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: my son who's the quarterback, but my other son, my daughter, 217 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: my sister, and it's something that we always do. We compete, 218 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, we could. I'm just compete, you know, and 219 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. So we're competing right now. And 220 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy that we found a brand that could just 221 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: take who we are and what we are and how 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: we are in turning it into a commercial, especially for 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the African American family. Dad, That's what 224 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: I like. I love that And not only that, but 225 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I just wish you to say that I got mama. Mama. Now, oh, 226 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: I just said that, you know, I was trying to 227 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I was trying to be writing up. Y'all are so articulate. 228 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to clean it up. You know, y'all ain't 229 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: just regularly both. I've been saying both all day. Both 230 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: stuff florid. Yeah know that my guy rights, like I talked, 231 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: so you know, and this is the last thing. And 232 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I gotta be selfish here because I said this before 233 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: the interview. How the research I did on my man Primes, 234 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: the e k Emmanuel cons for all this that don't know, 235 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: like me who did not know that Primes favorite glasses, 236 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: that's what that wore. And your elder son lost your 237 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: favorite pair, yes, like the look back, like the iconic 238 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: look back when I had on, like the reverse Jackett. 239 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: When I was leaving to get ready to go, get 240 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: to play and play the two sports he loves, I 241 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: gave him those. Man, my kids have lost so much stuff. 242 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: The old jury that I had, he has lost five 243 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. It don't seem like a lot, but then 244 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the five thousand dollars watches, you know, just just stupid 245 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: stuff that so do you know, like forgetting the money. 246 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: The sentimental part of this, like I handed this to 247 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: you like you was the prince baby, you the bag. 248 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: They just they if you don't earn it, you don't care, 249 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: be good they to earn it. This is good advice. 250 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let my son watch this. And he said, 251 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: not need great as to be honest with your kids. 252 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm honest with am I telling where they rank that, 253 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: I tell them who I care about the most. Like 254 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: you this month, you're like fifth. Yeah, ranking put does 255 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: that and he does a really good job, not that great. 256 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 1: You gotta rank them. You gotta let him know what 257 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: they're staying. All your life, hadn't you been ranked, been 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: subjected to criticism? They need that because guess what you're 259 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: raising them? You you you raised you want a dog, 260 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: but you're raising cats. Yeah, okay, you want a dog, 261 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: but you're raising kids. My youngest is a dog. He 262 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: lives in a cat environment. So you better make sure 263 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: because the environment you grew up was totally different and 264 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: that's why you where you are. So you're raising you 265 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: want a dog, but we're raising cats. So you get 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: to be hard on them at some point in time. 267 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm just trying to come out to Colorado. 268 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: You know you want specialists. Well, if you if I 269 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: could teach all your dvs how to pin up when 270 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: you First of all, people don't understand for you to 271 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: do what you did successfully, you had to be there. 272 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what they don't get you couldn't make 273 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: a play unless you were there, understood. Okay, that's what 274 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: they forget about. You were there to make they play. 275 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: You can't do that if you're not there. So I 276 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: want you when you come and putting you to work, 277 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: you believe that let's do it. I'm walking away. I'm 278 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: letting y'all do your thing. I'm promise you that I'm ready. 279 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: You know. The Disturban is there too. Yeah. D T 280 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: was my d C. And Jackson so he's an analyst 281 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: as well, So I had to take care of my 282 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: dog's Yeah, he's there too. So we gotta we gotta 283 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: play through of guys that from from the old school 284 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: that could really enjoy that everything that you've done. Uh, 285 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: not only bless the the young men who you're coaching, 286 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: but also the coaching staff. And just continue to shine 287 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: like man. Whenever it's beautiful. It reminds me of uh. 288 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: And I never compare my younger daughter to you, but 289 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: one thing I always tell her and I would tell you, 290 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: is that when you shine, it literally allows so many 291 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: others to signs as well. So continue to let your 292 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: lighte be great continution because we need that as well, 293 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: because what we're doing that thing and some bulli junk happens, 294 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: which bull junk happens about four times a year, each yeah, 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: each quarter. Yeah, And we need folks to have that 296 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: back because y'all know what time it is. Appreciate being done, 297 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you all for keeping it one hundred. 298 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Thank thank you for joining us. Appreciate, appreciate you, Thank 299 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: you so much. Look at clean trying to be like ya. 300 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: The custom dbs and changed the game. They used to 301 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: think we can articulate that s but not looking at us. 302 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: We everywhere. Thanks for appreciate. We gotta pay some bills. 303 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: But before we go, we're honoring Black History Month troil 304 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Blazers past and present. And here's NFL legend Max Strong 305 00:15:52,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: honoring Heisman Trophy winner Ernie Davis in nineteen sixty one. 306 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: Ernie Davis was the first African American Heisman Trophy winner. 307 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: As we continue to celebrate Black History Month across the league, 308 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: we shared the accomplishments of the past and the president 309 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Davis High School, All American followed the Jim Brown's footsteps 310 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: and starting at Syracuse University, Warren Brown's number forty four 311 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Jersey Davids put together a dominant senior year, which garnered 312 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: him Heisman recognition. He was drafted number one overall by 313 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: Washington in nineteen sixty two before joining his hero Jim 314 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Brown and Cleveland be a trade. Unfortunately, before Davids could 315 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: play in an NFL game, he developed leukemia, an illness 316 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: that would end his life tragically at mandaids of twenty three. 317 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: His number forty five jersey is still retired to this day. 318 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: All right, we're back the episode here and we're back 319 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: at Super Bowl fifty seven at Radio Row. We have 320 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: a great guest today, well this time with Mike Golic, 321 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: NFL veteran, former NFL veteran, Eagles great and broadcast extraordinaire. 322 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: And you know you're great when all of a sudden 323 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: they start drafting your kids right behind you into the 324 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: same business. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But I love good coaching. 325 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: This is well, you know, if only he would admit that, 326 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: it's amazing he got into this business. My son, Mike, 327 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: and I thought he would be on like bended knee. 328 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: Oh father, teach me the profession man. That dude came 329 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: after me right away. I mean just just disagreeing with 330 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: everything I was saying. I'm like, dude, come on, so 331 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: when you do, you give him some advice. Now I 332 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: give him bad advice the way he's coming after me. No, no, no, 333 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: I definitely do, but but I give him some But 334 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: he's really learned along the way. You know. It was 335 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: one of those where I was a tenth rounder. Again 336 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: back when there were twelve rounds. I was going to say, yeah, exactly, 337 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: yeah there and even before that there were seventeen rounds. Yeah, 338 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: that's how old I am. So what you were drafted? 339 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: What year? Tenth rounder? Mike was an undrafted free agent, 340 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: So we all we came from the boy you gotta, 341 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, bust your hump to get a job and stuff. 342 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: So you just basically carry that over. We just carried 343 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: that over into this and you know, tried to try 344 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: to try to make it. Five was a good year 345 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: for the Bears, a good year to get drafted. It 346 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: was that will you know, we did not. William Perry 347 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: was in my draft. Of the first pick my year 348 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: was Bruce Smith. He was a number one pick. He 349 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: was number one. I was number two fifty five, So 350 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: that was a little different. The only thing we had 351 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: in common was two things we played the same position 352 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: and we were drafted the same year. Other than that, 353 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: our our carreers went different past so I got so 354 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: was it eight? I think it was eight? Eight Fall Balls, Eagles, 355 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Big Bears. Yeah. I couldn't see maybe ten fifteen yards 356 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: the during that game because they didn't want to postponent 357 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: I remember being on fielding the rough the stand in 358 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: the fifty yard line and he was talking in his 359 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: microphone to the to the upstairs and he said, yes, 360 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: I can see both goal posts from here. I looked 361 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: at me and I said, what the hell are you 362 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: looking at, dude? I can't see fifteen yards that way. 363 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: There'd be a play to the outside and the person 364 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: would disappear, but they didn't want to postpone it. So 365 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: whoever was going to be ahead in that game by 366 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: the time it rolled in was gonna win. And that 367 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: was yeah. So what's what's your fondest memory of that 368 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: of that of that game? Nothing, because we lost and 369 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't see anything. I mean, it was it was 370 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: probably a memory, and I guess it wouldn't be a 371 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: fond memory. Is Listen, we've all played a long time, 372 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: whether Little League all the way through the NFL, so 373 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: we played in snow, sleet, rain, all wind. I have 374 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. When we all saw the 375 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: fog rolling in off the lake. First we thought it 376 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: was fireworks and smoke from that, but then it just 377 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: kept coming in and all of a sudden we were engulfed. 378 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: It was something none of us on either team had 379 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: ever seen any buddy throw the ball right, yes, yes, yes, 380 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: short passes, okay, because there would be. They tried a 381 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: couple of longer passes, and I kid you not. You know, 382 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: you're you're rushing and then they throw the ball and 383 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: you look and you just see the ball disappear, and 384 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: you literally don't know the For all I know, the 385 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: ball could have bounced right into a receiver's hands and 386 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: they could have said it was a reception. Had no 387 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: idea it was. It was crazy store alone. It's gonna 388 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: bounce off the ground. But I'm a pick it up act. 389 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I think of what you 390 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: could have got away with no more contact contact. You're 391 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: doing that anyway, right? You got to nowadays with the 392 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: way the rules are. That's true. You want any kind 393 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: of edge you can get as a defense you're trying 394 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: to take you guys are The worst position at all 395 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: is secondary guys. Now, it's horrible the line is now 396 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: considering what you have to do with the quarterback, I mean, 397 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: if it could today. Yeah, that's the question I wanted 398 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: to come at you with was would you like? How 399 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: would you like? What is your opinion on if you 400 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: had to play in days era? So I was raised. 401 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: You know, my dad played football in the Canadian Football League. 402 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: He's a former Marine, big, strong, tough dude. And the 403 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: way they taught football back then was when you tackle somebody, 404 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: you run through them and you land on him and 405 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: try and plan them. That was legal. You know people 406 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: might hear that and go, oh my god, but that 407 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: was what you did. We had a guy, Clyde Simmons 408 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: who would come off the edge and he would we 409 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: call it the tuck, suck and drop. He would tuck 410 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback's arm and suck him up and drop him right. 411 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: He separated three one again. It's that that's the technique. 412 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: But you were to do it now, I mean, I 413 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: think it's so unfair a for dbs they have to 414 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: pull off the way they do, and for d lineman 415 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: when you're tackling a guy, what the hell are you 416 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I'm supposed to twist in mid air, 417 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: so I don't land on him. It's earlier. I understand 418 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: the safety part of it, but I think they're breaking 419 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: too many eggs to make this omelet of times for sure. 420 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: For sure. So you've been in success with TV radio 421 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: pod play by play, like, what's been ultimately your your 422 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: favorite platform that you've been doing well from from? It's 423 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: interesting I'll answer this way. First. People always say, do 424 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: you want to be remembered more as a football player broadcast? 425 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: I said, are you kidding me? I said, I've never 426 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: woken up from a dream and said, oh my god, 427 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: what a great segment that was. It was always man 428 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: with a great hit I had in that quarter. As 429 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: far as broadcasting, I love doing a daily live show, 430 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: especially in the morning, because people are on their way 431 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: to work. I'd like to make them laugh a little bit, 432 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: maybe take them inside the locker room or on the field. 433 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: But in all honestly, I would say doing color commentary 434 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: for games because now you're at the game, you're still 435 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: kind of involved in the game, You're still involved with 436 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: the players. So for this one, like I do the 437 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: the the call for Westwood One, the national radio partner 438 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: for the NFL. So I'll be in on the in 439 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the call for this game for the Super Bowl. So 440 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of fun. I love being involved 441 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: like that. I think I saw one of your first 442 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: TV gigs back. I want to say when you first retired, 443 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: and I think you you hosted like a Bloopers did. Yes, 444 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: I did. I used. I used to watch that. I 445 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: hosted that that I was I was playing with the Eagles, 446 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: we still playing host. I was playing at hosting. I 447 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: would do a lot of that in the off season. Uh, 448 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: we'd get a lot of shows in the camp. One 449 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: year we did ten shows in Hawaii. I'm like, hell, 450 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: sign me up for this every year. But yeah, that 451 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. That's kind of what got 452 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: me going. And I did a piece when I was 453 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: in Philly. You know, the quarterbacks get the shows they 454 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I had a piece on the Randall Cunningham Show and 455 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: it so we were just a segment on his I 456 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: was a segment on his show, Right Time, Right Place 457 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: At won a local Lemmy And that's when the ESPN 458 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: called and said, hey, we know you're still playing in 459 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: the off season. You want to do some stuff with us. 460 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: And and then when I was retired by the league, 461 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: when nobody called anymore, luckily ESPN called at that at 462 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: that point, Yeah, I definitely know that when when no, 463 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to retire, but you don't get that 464 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: call and you're you're you're waiting for it. That's well, 465 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: that's why I people asked me what year you're retired. 466 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: I said, well, the league retired me. Yeah. Totally hate that. 467 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: So you gotta you got a family podcast right, yes, yes, 468 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: sorry in advance, which we like to apologize to the 469 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: people before they listen. Yes, it's my wife who got 470 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: this single. And it's my wife, myself, my son Mike, 471 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: my son Jake, his wife Jenny, and my daughter Sydney 472 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: and her her husband Ben Bronncker. He played at Harvard, 473 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: he played five years with the Mayors, a tight end 474 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: and now he's in med school. Real underachiever. Uh yeah, 475 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: dude's really smart. But we have this and we just 476 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: kind of go, it's not even sports, I mean, and 477 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: that's when we find out that, like my daughter in 478 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: law and my daughter say some really dumb stuff, you know, 479 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: and we laugh at them and laugh with him. It's 480 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: just plus it's a great time every couple of weeks 481 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: just to kind of get us all together. You told 482 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: me earlier story about it was that you learned that 483 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: your daughter in law about rotating times. Well, so my 484 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: daughter in law thought, rotating tires meant you take it 485 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: to the garage, you put it up on the jacks, 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: and you just spin the tires. And we were like, 487 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: what was gonna happen to the tires? I don't know, 488 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: you just keep spinning them till they're even I'm like, 489 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the thought process of that. 490 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: But but she she was, and quite honestly, obviously nowadays 491 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: you throw it out to Twitter, there were a lot 492 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: of people that agreed. They were like, yeah, that's what 493 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: I thought. It was too. I'm like, oh my god, Okay, 494 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: it's like wow, I said, because you imagine, just put 495 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: it up on the jack, spin the tires, all right, 496 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: that will be a hunter bucks. We're ready to go. 497 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: Your wife must be batting a thousand right now. Because 498 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: it was her I did to come up with this podcast, 499 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: and then I saw a recent uh video you did 500 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: an interview. It was her who picked for Michael Mike 501 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: I know, you tried out like or fourteen hosts. And 502 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: then when he was on the show, he wasn't in 503 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: a rotation and she was like, he's geeky, but I 504 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: like him. That take him. It was exactly it I 505 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: had after Tony Bruno left my original partner. There were 506 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: thirteen people they brought in between Ober in December of 507 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Greeny was a fill and he was doing ESPN News 508 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: and they were like, okay, one of the one of 509 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: the actual candidates can't make it in, can you fill in? 510 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: And I would talk to my wife after the first 511 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: segment of every person and she would give me an 512 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,239 Speaker 1: update or what she thought. And with Greeny, quote was 513 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: sounds kind of geeky, but he's the one, and sure enough, 514 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: But like what made him the one? Was it? You 515 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: know what? I think It was the fact that he 516 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: grew up a fan and a writer. I grew up 517 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: a player. You know, we were we were truly the 518 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: odd couple, you know, and and so that's how we 519 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: related to one another, and it just kind of worked. 520 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: The chemistry was just one of those things you just 521 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: it was just kind of there and it just kind 522 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: of developed even more over the years. So talk a 523 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: little bit about huddle up, Let's talk obesity. Yeah, so 524 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: huddle up Obesity dot org as the website to go 525 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: to and listen. You guys know you've seen teammates, especially 526 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: from our side of it. Like when I finished playing, 527 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: I was about to ninety, but you know, playing shape 528 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: to ninety. Two years later, I'm three, you know, And 529 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean an ugly three torenty where I walked out 530 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: of the shower one day and said, oh my god, 531 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: I need to do something. And so what I did 532 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: is it was my wife and my my family who helped. 533 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: So that's the biggest message I have not only for 534 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: former ballplayers who go the wrong way, but everybody in 535 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: general out there who are living that life. Because a 536 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of people want to just hide it and they're 537 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: embarrassed by it, so they won't seek help, and especially men, 538 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: they won't do a yearly chance. Looks like we have 539 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: a physical every year. Guys won't go see doctors because 540 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: we lived the life of the doctor asking you okay, 541 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm playing. You know. Now, a lot of 542 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: guys feel well, there's nothing wrong with me at the dime, 543 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't go to the doctor, and they don't tell 544 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: me there's something wrong exactly right. My point is involve everybody. 545 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: You know what. It's something you have to deal with. 546 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: It's not just go on one diet. It's a lifestyle 547 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: change that people need to do. But you need to 548 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: do with other people. We lived in itinerary life. When 549 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: to be somewhere, what to wear, what to eat? Now, 550 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you gotta make your own decisions 551 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: when you're done playing, and a lot of times they 552 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: can lead to add decisions and unhealthy decisions, and you 553 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: gotta be able to pull it back. You need a 554 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: support group to do right now. As a former football player, 555 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: we're all used to getting graded here, how would your 556 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: wife grade you and your whole journey through this now, 557 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: it obviously started out as an f when I went 558 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: the wrong way, but God love her, I mean she 559 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: got me into the two nineties and into the two sixties. 560 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: I was also diagnosed with type two diabetes when I 561 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: was in the nineties, when I was about forty two, 562 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: and when I was in the two nineties, my dad 563 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: had it as well. So now I had to deal 564 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: with that and make sure I lost weight because of 565 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: That's another thing will be so you can bring on 566 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: other health issues as well. I'm now the way I 567 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: was my senior year in high school, So I mean, 568 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: I feel great, so I think she'd give me. Listen, 569 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna give myself an a because I was 570 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: known for eating a lot of doughnuts and cookies when 571 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: I was doing radio and TV. I still do, just 572 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: not as often, right. And also I find also I think, 573 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, people say, go, look, you look pretty good. Now. 574 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, I think I'm still worth more to 575 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: my wife alive, so you know she's feeding me. Well 576 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: that's the whole deal. I'm to man's bet. I didn't 577 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: know that. I didn't know she picked your partners. She did. 578 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Oh yeah, yeah, like I said, that 579 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: was her exact quote. Sounds kind of geeky, but he's 580 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: the one and journey sev eighteen years later worked out. Okay. 581 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: So one of the questions we always asked some of 582 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: the guests that we have on the show, your Rushmore, 583 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, your personal Mount Rushmore, Who would you have 584 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: for people that influenced your life that hadn't be didn't 585 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: have to be fully sports right? So I was because 586 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: not everybody knows. I was never one of those that 587 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: had a sports idol. My father was always my hero, always, 588 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: so my dad would be on on there. And then 589 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: in all honesty, two other guys from my high school. 590 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean, those are really such formative years. The head 591 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: coach there, God rest his soul, Bill got Broad was 592 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: my coach in Cleveland, Ohio. St. Joe's High just laid 593 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: a great foundation. And another coach who was a football 594 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: coach but also my wrestling coach. Me and my brother 595 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Bob wrestled in college and at Notre Dame. John Story 596 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: was his name, was an incredible, incredible developer of the 597 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: whole person. And I and people always ask you and 598 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: I go out and do talks, who's your idols or whatever? 599 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: And I mentioned these guys. They don't know who they are, 600 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: but these are the ones that influenced me. So those 601 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: are the three. And I would I wouldn't imagine I 602 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: have to put my mom up there. If it's not 603 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: my mom, it's my wife, because my wife is truly 604 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: the backbone of our family without questions. They so, yeah, 605 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: it's not really anybody else crazy outside of kind of 606 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: who helped mold me, you know, as as a young kid. Yeah, Mike, 607 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: that's a great list man. So well, thanks for coming 608 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: on podcast. We appreciate you on appreciat how you got 609 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: you guys digging this this world. It's really fun. Me 610 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: and Peanut get to talk a lot more. He usually 611 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: just cracks jokes on me. Let him do to heat more. 612 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: He's I'll call him my my my darker Barbara Walters. 613 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to you know, I'm more like laid 614 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: back chill. But I'll let I'll let him take the 615 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. But I'm just I'm more laid back chill. 616 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun not doing sports all the time. 617 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I enjoy that talk about you know who in your 618 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: life knows how to rotate time because people think you 619 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: just know sports, and it's nice to get to know 620 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: the other side of you, the person outside. Yes, we 621 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: are not just robotic athletes. Don't put us in a box. 622 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Well we 623 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: are done. It's a rap. First day in the books 624 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: went It went pretty good? Would you say? I think 625 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: it went excellent? Honestly, Um, I want to thank Dion 626 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: Sanders coach Prime. I mean, he's the living legend that 627 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: we all got to see and he was custom fit today, 628 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: clean as always. Blue jean was a blue jean. It 629 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: was definitely blue Jen okay, custom blue, no doubt. Mike 630 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Golick for joining us as well. Well. Spoken, amazing man. 631 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: He might be one of the original goats from the transition, 632 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, his second career, his post that what he's 633 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: doing like he he might be one of the first 634 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: to go from football to TV and do it so smoothly. 635 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: His transition was smooth and it's he's still killing the 636 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: game right now. So so thank him as well for 637 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: coming in. Man. Also, I want to thank all of 638 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: our listeners for tuning in as always. Continue to tell 639 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: spread the word, tell a friend, to tell a friend, 640 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: to tell a friend. All Right, hit the pick, follow, 641 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: give us a review, a couple of likes, hit us up, 642 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: continue to push it around. Thank you as always, from 643 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast