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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh all righty, this just in Kemba Walker

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Speaker 1: finalizing a contract buyout with the Thunder. The New York

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Speaker 1: Knicks will sign Kemba Walker as a free agent, sources

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Speaker 1: tell the Athletic spring in Frank I Sola, the Nets

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Speaker 1: studio host on Yes also as a Sirius XM radio show,

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Speaker 1: the starting lineup and contributor to Around the Horn and

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Speaker 1: part of the interruption, let me start there. The Knicks

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Speaker 1: they're they're getting these these players. Yes, it's the magic

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs that went against the Hawks. Frank, they

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Speaker 1: got Kemba Walker. And your reaction is, well, he as

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Speaker 1: you know, Dan, he is a New Yorker so and

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Speaker 1: he's an upgrade on what they had. So he put

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Speaker 1: him with Derek Roses, your two point guards. It's not terrible.

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Speaker 1: You know the problem with Kemba Walker. We saw him

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Speaker 1: get exposed a couple of times or a few times

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Speaker 1: to pensively. He is undersize and the big thing with

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Speaker 1: him will be can he stay healthy. Remember last year

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Speaker 1: the Celtics, they weren't playing Kembaton back to backs. The

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Speaker 1: idea was to keep him ready and fresh for the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and then he ended up missing playoff games, so who

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Speaker 1: knows what his health is at this point. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the Lakers step by step, move by

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Speaker 1: move here when they Let's start with Russell. So that

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Speaker 1: upgrade for you? You like the move with Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 1: I like it during the regular season. How it works

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, I don't know, because you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a ball dominant guard who's not a great shooter, and

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Speaker 1: you know, when you do get to the playoffs, in

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Speaker 1: these you know, crucial moments of games, you want the

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Speaker 1: ball in Lebron James's hands. So if Russell Westbrook going

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Speaker 1: to be playing off the ball, and if so, is

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Speaker 1: he going to be the one knocking down shots? I

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Speaker 1: get it. To get through a regular season, Lebron, you know,

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to play eighty two games at the stage

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Speaker 1: of his career. He wants guys to carry him. And

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Speaker 1: it's almost as if he knows now that Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: can't be that guy. I understand why they did it.

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Speaker 1: In theory. It's an upgrade. I'll be interested to see

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Speaker 1: how it works during the postseason. Yeah, I'm with you

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Speaker 1: on that. It feels like Russ. He never takes a

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Speaker 1: possession off. Every possession matters to him, and he'll play

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Speaker 1: hard the entire regular season, although there are times when

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Speaker 1: I want him to maybe take a couple of plays

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Speaker 1: off or not every possession mean as much. All right,

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Speaker 1: now you get mellow. What do you think of the

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Speaker 1: addition of Melo? Yeah, I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 1: Carmelo the last few years, I mean he's accepted his role.

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Speaker 1: He's now a bit player who will play between twenty

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Speaker 1: and twenty five minutes a game. He could still knock

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Speaker 1: down mid range jumpers. I get it. He and Lebron

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Speaker 1: have been friends since high school. They've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: play together. They played together on the national team. They've

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Speaker 1: been in All Star teams together. I think it's I

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Speaker 1: think it's fine because you're not getting Carmelo. You're not

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Speaker 1: asking him to be your starting power forward. He is

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Speaker 1: getting up there in age, but he proved on Portland

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Speaker 1: he could be a contributing player. I think he wants

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Speaker 1: to make a runout. You've seen that list. There's only

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Speaker 1: eight guys that have won a national championship, a college championship,

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Speaker 1: and then a gold medal and Carmelo wants to be

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Speaker 1: and I've got to do that all right. The other

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Speaker 1: editions here, who stands out more well? Westbrook is obviously

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Speaker 1: a really good one, Malik Monk, Kent base More, Wayne Ellington.

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Speaker 1: I mean they needed shooting, so in theory, I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Wayne Ellington isn't a bad one. I think

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Speaker 1: getting Dwight Howard back is good. You know, Dan, if

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Speaker 1: you look last year with Montres Harold, they got Montres

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Speaker 1: Harold on a bargain basement contract and he did not

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Speaker 1: play well. I mean, he really didn't give them a lot.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting if you look at what happened

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Speaker 1: with Jannis and Tetta Coompo in the finals, where Phoenix

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Speaker 1: really didn't have anybody after DeAndre at to deal with him.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, size seems to matter again in

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and Dwight Howard helped the Lakers when they

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Speaker 1: won a title, and Dwight has kind of become in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways, morphing into a bit of a

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Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman type where he's constantly out there trying to

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna help them a lot for

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Speaker 1: the money. To me, he's an upgrade over Manchez Harrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you on the Rodman Dwight Howard

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Speaker 1: comparison because knowing your role is really important when you

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Speaker 1: get on a Lebron team. And I also wonder can

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Speaker 1: they do anything with Dennis Shrewder with a signing trade?

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Speaker 1: Can the Lakers? Because I still it's weird through free agency.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this. I thought of Dame Lillard and Dennis Shrewder.

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Speaker 1: Shrewder turning down the extension with the Lakers, and then

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard looking around, going, we got Cody Zeller and

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Speaker 1: Tony Snell, We're Ben McLemore. We're not going anywhere. But

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Speaker 1: can the Lakers benefit from Dennis Shrewder with a signing trade? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they could still get something for him. And that's why

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Speaker 1: you love when guys say bet on yourself. Well, Dennis

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Speaker 1: Shrewder bet on himself. It really hasn't worked out at

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Speaker 1: this point. He should have taken that eighty four million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract that he was offered. You mentioned Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 1: I would think that this year they'll try to get

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Speaker 1: then I can see a trade, you know, at the

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Speaker 1: earliest the deadline. I doubt that would happen. I could

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Speaker 1: see something with Damian Loud around next year's NBA Draft.

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Speaker 1: That's usually when these big deals tend to happen. So

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out for Portland, if they're not

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Speaker 1: making steady progress in the Western Conference, I think that

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Speaker 1: Damian Lord will be out by next summer. Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: I think he makes close to sixty million dollars. Where

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Speaker 1: is this can this is this sustainable? Frank that I

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Speaker 1: don't know how it is? And you know that a

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Speaker 1: lot of owners are talking about this. And when the

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Speaker 1: collective Barning Agreement, whatever it does, expire, it's got to

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Speaker 1: be something that will be addressed. At least Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: in his case. Now, who knows what he's going to

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Speaker 1: be like five years from now when the contract expires,

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't even kick in until next season. But

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Speaker 1: he has been an unbelievable player, two time All Start,

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Speaker 1: He's won finals there he's been. He's revitalized that entire organization,

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons they're able to build that amazing

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Speaker 1: arena that they have. But there's going to come a

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Speaker 1: point where you look at some of these contracts, even

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Speaker 1: Lonzo Ball getting four years eighty five million. He's a

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Speaker 1: very good player. All he's done has been on losing teams,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, so I get it, you're paying

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Speaker 1: for potential with Steph, you're paying for services already rendered.

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Speaker 1: But the money is crazy. I think in the NBA

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Speaker 1: world they're calling it Dan Patrick money that Steph Curry got, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very much. I think it's Bill Simmons money. But but

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Speaker 1: but sixteen million, where you know, we we freak out

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Speaker 1: when Patrick Mahomes signs his deal and we go, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, they're paying him that much, and you're going

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Speaker 1: like he would be just another marquee player in the

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Speaker 1: NBA with his salary here. Yeah. I remember when Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning first signed his contract with the Giants, he said

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Speaker 1: it was one hundred million, but the guaranteed money was

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Speaker 1: what Trevor Ariza was making on a middle level exception.

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Speaker 1: So Eli Manning was basically getting Trevor a reason money.

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Speaker 1: But Dan, you know this, when you go back to

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's last two years with the Chicago Bulls, Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan got thirty million for both those he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the thirty to thirty five million dollar range,

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Speaker 1: and even back then you're like, you know what, He's

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Speaker 1: definitely worth it. But now you think, all these years later,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry essentially is going to be making double that amazing,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't count against the cap with Jordan. Didn't. No, no,

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Speaker 1: he was Remember that's when the Knick fans, as you know,

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Speaker 1: And then Jerry Ryansor stepped up to the play and said,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you thirty million, and then I think it

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Speaker 1: was thirty and thirty three million, and Michael Jordan wisely

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Speaker 1: stayed in Chicago, won two more championships and got his money.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Knicks feel Zion Williamson will be

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Speaker 1: in play for them in a couple of years. I

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Speaker 1: definitely think they do believe that. And when Zion played

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Speaker 1: a great place to play the whole It was almost

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Speaker 1: as if the Knicks gave him a script. And you

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Speaker 1: look at New Orleans, you know they got a lot

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Speaker 1: of good young players. They haven't come close to sniffing

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Speaker 1: the playoffs yet so and the Western Conference is tough.

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Speaker 1: So it could get to a point with Zion where

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Speaker 1: the Pelicans are in the same position they were in

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Speaker 1: At least that's something that right now. The Nicks still

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Speaker 1: have the Kawhi Leonard situation with the Clippers, where coming

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Speaker 1: the Clippers? It feels like they're damned if they do,

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Speaker 1: damned if they don't. What do you think makes the

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Speaker 1: most sense in this situation from the Clippers perspective, Well,

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Speaker 1: considering everything that they gave up to get Paul George

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Speaker 1: other option but to resign Kawhi Leonard likely not going

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Speaker 1: He's going to be able to healthy enough and he'll,

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Speaker 1: you know, still come back in top form. What I

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Speaker 1: don't get though, Dan, is you have Kawhi. You know,

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Speaker 1: it came out now quite insane. It was reports that

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Speaker 1: he wanted to talk to other teams, talk to other

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Speaker 1: teams about what. First of all, not a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams have money. And at some point, I know this

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Speaker 1: is like a bad word in sports. Does loyalty ever

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Speaker 1: come into the equation? You wanted them to go out

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Speaker 1: and get Paul George. They moved heaven and earth to

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Speaker 1: get him. And now here you are, knowing that you're

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Speaker 1: talk to other teams. I don't know about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that go on

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Speaker 1: we would be calling them out. Yeah. It feels like,

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Speaker 1: you know, because Kawhi is not media friendly, you don't

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Speaker 1: hear much from him, but it feels like somebody's pulling

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Speaker 1: something's going on there and it doesn't seem like he

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Speaker 1: gets a lot of blame. No, he doesn't. I think

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Speaker 1: maybe being aloof has something to do with the fact

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Speaker 1: even when they lost last year, when they blew the

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Speaker 1: three one lead to the Denver Nuggets. You're the star

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Speaker 1: player of the team usually in those situations, if that's

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Speaker 1: Lebron wherever he is, if it's Pat when he was

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Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, it's truly his fault that we lost, or

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Speaker 1: it's this guy's fault of Paul George. Nobody really blamed

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Speaker 1: the star of the team. And it's his uncle Dennis,

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Speaker 1: to make the call for the New Orleans Saints quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston Taysom Hill with if Michael Thomas is healthy

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Speaker 1: when he's on the field, I would always lean Jamis.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Jamis guy. I think he's got some volatility

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Speaker 1: to his game that you can harness and you can

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Speaker 1: move the ball, and you just have to deal with

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Speaker 1: some turnovers and all that stuff. I'm scared. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who were the worst receiving courts? If I take Michael

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Speaker 1: Thomas out of the equation, the Saints are the worst.

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Speaker 1: They're now thirty two. If Michael Thomas is hurt for

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Speaker 1: an extended period of time, and because of that, I

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Speaker 1: might lean Taysom Hill. I might say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. It's on. Taysom Hill is

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Speaker 1: going to be a run threat. He's going to carry

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Speaker 1: the ball ten to twelve times a game. That might

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Speaker 1: be the only way the Saints can win because it's

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Speaker 1: mark Us Callaway and Traycon Smith and Adam Troutman. That's

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Speaker 1: their group of playmakers. They might need to be a

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Speaker 1: run first type of team with Taysom Hill. Always great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, Steve. Thank you for joining us. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: Dan appreciate it. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. He's the

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Speaker 1: star of the Cincinnati Reds, A six time All Star,

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Speaker 1: won the MVP back in twenty ten. He's Joey Vado,

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Speaker 1: who made some news recently home ring in seven consecutive games.

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Speaker 1: I thought that that tied the record, and I was

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Speaker 1: since reminded that Ken Griffe Junior had eight consecutive games,

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Speaker 1: Don Mattingly eight, and Dale long and Joey Vado joins

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Speaker 1: us on the program Good you have you back? Joey,

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Speaker 1: did you know what the record was with consecutive games

467
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Speaker 1: with a home run? I knew after gave him three.

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Speaker 1: I was locked in on the record from game three,

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Speaker 1: every single fast thing about hitting a home run. Really, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until about game six. I can't imagine you

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Speaker 1: would be going, yeah, I'm I'm sitting dead red, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hit a home run tonight. Oh yeah, well I

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Speaker 1: do think that often, but no, at about game six,

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Speaker 1: I was flooded with are you gonna do it? When

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Speaker 1: we were in New York City playing against the Mets,

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Speaker 1: and I'd never experienced so much attention before. Um, not

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Speaker 1: only from fans on the street. I'd be in the

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Speaker 1: back of an uber and New York fans are people

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Speaker 1: in New York were telling me, Joe, you're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the seventh one tonight or Joe, You're gonna hit the

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Speaker 1: eighth one tonight and um. But the people at the

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Speaker 1: stadium were crazy too. I mean, every everybody across paths

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Speaker 1: with was telling me, come on, man, you can do

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Speaker 1: it tonight. Give it to us tonight. So it was

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Speaker 1: it was wonderful to feel that support. Do you change

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Speaker 1: anything in what way your approach your advance that you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to do something right, like like

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Speaker 1: game seven, yeah, or game eight, like you're going up

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Speaker 1: there going if I hit my eighth I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: in there with some pretty good, you know company Mattingly

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Speaker 1: and Ken Griffey Junior. Well, I have Mattingly, Don Mattingley,

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Speaker 1: and Ken Griffey Junior's number. I didn't know until a

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Speaker 1: couple of days before that Dale Long had had hit

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Speaker 1: eight in a row. I was thinking about sending out

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Speaker 1: like a group text when when I got to game eight,

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Speaker 1: like just a little winky winky emoji or something like that,

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Speaker 1: like I'm coming for you. You know it was yours

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Speaker 1: now it's mine sort of thing. But no, I um,

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Speaker 1: every every day, every every bad I was thinking about homering.

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Speaker 1: I wanted that sucker so badly. What about and you

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Speaker 1: missed by a couple inches with an eighth consecutive game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: story in my life, story in my life. There By

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Speaker 1: the way, I didn't know that you were dubbed the

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Speaker 1: most interesting man in baseball? Did Who dubbed you the

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Speaker 1: most interesting man in base No? Nobody, nobody. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think it was. It was an article. I don't drink,

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Speaker 1: so you know it's not a Dosakis thing. But no,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't consider myself that at all. Do

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Speaker 1: you have to be sociable at first base? As a

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Speaker 1: first baseman? You have to be unless unless the player,

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Speaker 1: unless the hitter, unless it's the opposing picture, or unless

512
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Speaker 1: the batter got on by air. Then you don't be sociable.

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Speaker 1: Then you gotta stay mum. But uh, yeah, they if

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Speaker 1: somebody gets to first base, usually it's a good good

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Speaker 1: thing for them, walk base, hit some sort of stinging

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Speaker 1: line drive. You have to compliment them. So the answer is,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be sociable. You got to. You gotta compliment

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Speaker 1: them and then roll from there. Now, now people get

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Speaker 1: to first base and ask for loans. So you can't

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Speaker 1: be too friendly. You can't be too friendly at first base.

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Speaker 1: But like Clayton Kershaw, if he got to first base,

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Speaker 1: no conversation. Well, no, a couple of years ago he

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Speaker 1: got to first base. Clayton's very friendly, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you're pretty gonna be pretty friendly when you're the best

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Speaker 1: pitcher every year. So you know, he got to first

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Speaker 1: base and there was a pitch I took that was

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Speaker 1: probably a fringe strike, and he said, it ended up

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Speaker 1: being ball four And he said, what do you think

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Speaker 1: about that pitch? And I said it was a strike

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Speaker 1: and he said, I thought so too. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the maximum of our conversations when it comes to

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Speaker 1: ball on at first base. But do you talk to

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Speaker 1: rookies at all? Of course, of course, you know I'm

534
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: usually trying to learn a thing or two from them.

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00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: I know it sounds silly, but I feel like I've

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00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: learned so much over the past couple of years from

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Speaker 1: from the younger generations. So the answer is absolutely yes.

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Speaker 1: We had a debate the other day and two of

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Speaker 1: my guys here, so I had my producer, PAULI picked

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Speaker 1: aside and he wanted your career as a future Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, and then mclovin, who's a Philadelphia Phillies apologist,

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Speaker 1: took Bryce Harper. So that was the debate. Yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean Bryce is one of my favorite players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I he's he's going to be a special player. And

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Speaker 1: you know, but do you think you're a Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: Because do I think I am? I? Have you done enough?

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Speaker 1: Probably not yet? No, you know, I think they've they

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00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: I've heard that you have to get to at least

549
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Speaker 1: two thousand hits and I haven't gotten there yet, so

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm there yet. No. Well, I think

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00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: it ended where we made some really strong points for you.

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: It was just Bryce's I think it is ten years

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00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: younger than you. So yeah, I'm assuming he's going to

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00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: add to his totals there, jolly yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, yeah,

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00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: I've got ten years of salary at Crewed before. You know,

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00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: he's collected a lot more money than he has. But

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00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: he'll be okay, he'll be just fine. Yeah, yeah, I know.

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00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: How is baseball different than when you started? What was that?

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Oh seven? You started slower? It's slower, The players are

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00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: better the game is faster more, we're just better in general,

561
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: but the game has gotten a little bit slower, and

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00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know exactly why. You know,

563
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: more walks, more strikeouts, the athletes are better, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's I don't I guess you're not asking if it's

565
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: better or worse. How is the difference. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: just a little bit slower. I remember getting games done

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Speaker 1: in about two hours and forty five minutes, two hours

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Speaker 1: and fifty five minutes, and now it's you know, three

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Speaker 1: oh five, three fifteen, more home runs for sure, more strikeouts.

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00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: The pictures are tougher, so much tougher. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: I came up, a guy coming out of the bullpen

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00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: throwing ninety five was throwing petrol, you know, And now

573
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: if he's throwing one hundred and five, you're thinking yourself, Okay,

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00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: this guy's throwing really hard. So that's probably the that's

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00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: probably the biggest difference. But but you're a throwback though,

576
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: because you're you're a batting average guy like you. You

577
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Speaker 1: believe in putting the battle on the ball and not hey,

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Speaker 1: I either hit a home run or I strike out.

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Speaker 1: Would you be different. Now if you were coming up

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Speaker 1: where it's either it's all or nothing, No, Dan, I

581
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: am all in on all or nothing. I am home

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00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: runs and strikeouts. Now, that's what I'm about. Now. That's

583
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Speaker 1: hence hence the nine home runs. You know, it's nine

584
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Speaker 1: straight games. That was my goal. Yeah, So bat two

585
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Speaker 1: thirty and hit forty bombs. You're good with that, no question,

586
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: no question about. That's where my head's out. Now, who's

587
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Speaker 1: the picture you faced? Where you went? I have absolutely

588
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: no chance. Let me tell you a good story. So

589
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, Dusty Baker was the team's manager,

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Speaker 1: and it was my birthday, September tenth, and we were

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Speaker 1: in Milwaukee and Dusty said, the day before September ninth,

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00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: he said, you got a day off. I want you

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Speaker 1: to take it easy. And it was a night game,

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Speaker 1: day game, and he said take it easy. And CC

595
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: was pitching. CC Sabathia's pitching, and I said, no, Dusty,

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Speaker 1: I want in there. And Dusty was is like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's he's, he's he's the type of manner

598
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: says all right, man, all right, get on out there.

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00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: So the next day I bat against CC Sabathia, in

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Speaker 1: the Shadows in Milwaukee, I go for four with four strikeouts,

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Speaker 1: and CC without question, was the toughest pitcher at the

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00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: time in the league as a left handed batter, most dominant.

603
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: I go up to Dusty after or Dusty approaches me

604
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: after the game, he says, how'd you like that? And

605
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: I go home. Man, that was tough. That was tough.

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00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Next time listened to me. Okay, But there have to

607
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: be those moments and guys talk about facing Randy Johnson

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Speaker 1: or I mean, I liked Grom. Do you ever feel like,

609
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: what am I doing up here against a Grom? No?

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00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: I like, I like facing Jacob. Um, there's some there's

611
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: there's some tough ones out there. I mean, of course

612
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Jacob's amongst that, but I don't get to face him

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00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: a ton and Um, but would you rather face a

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Speaker 1: hundred or a guy who had, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of movement? Nowadays you get so used to guys throwing hard. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard to explain. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there's a lot of movement or a hard thing

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Speaker 1: that makes the difference. It's more about the matchup, you know.

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Speaker 1: I grew, I came into league, I face Maddox. I

620
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Speaker 1: face Randy Johnson, I face Tom Glavin, you know, but

621
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Speaker 1: I've also faced Roldis Chapman. I've also faced Jacob deGrom.

622
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: So it's more about the matchup. CC going back to

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Speaker 1: CCC Bathia, he was throwing really hard, but then he'd

624
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Speaker 1: also hit you. You know, he'd hit you without caring,

625
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: and then and then and then spot up through three

626
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: three separate pitches. So you know, it's it's all about

627
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: the matchups. We're talking to Joey Votto, the Cincinnati Reds

628
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Speaker 1: first baseman, turns thirty eight in September. I didn't know

629
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Speaker 1: you were a huge basketball fan, big basketball fan. I

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Speaker 1: I took a little bit of pause. I won't get

631
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Speaker 1: into specifics why I took a pause, but there were

632
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Speaker 1: some players that moved to specific teams that I felt

633
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: like really ruined the league for a second, Now that

634
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Janis owns the league, now that like a player organically

635
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: comes from the same organization, and ut Toronto, Oh boy,

636
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: how did that hurt? I didn't like that he left

637
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: the Spurs. I don't like when the thunder got broken up.

638
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I guess I'm a bit of

639
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: a throwback. Jordan was my guy as a as a team,

640
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: as a younger person. Staying with the same organization is

641
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: something I'm very fond of. I mean, so this is

642
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: a topic. I have to watch what I say. Uh

643
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: but but you're you grew up a Toronto fan, like

644
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: that's right, Vince Carter. Yeah, that hurt. That hurt kills

645
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: me when they give him an ovation. I get it.

646
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. But um so, and

647
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: you also played basketball, didn't you a little bit in

648
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: high school? I'm nothing special. I have a teammate that

649
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: actually played Division one college basketball, me or Garrett. So

650
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make any claims here. All I

651
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: know is I got stats that you once dropped thirty

652
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: seven points against your bitter rivals. Is that true? Don't

653
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't

654
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: remember what I did in last night's baseball games, So

655
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you went over for four I think

656
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: last night. No. Is there is there a school collegiate? Yeah? Yeah,

657
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: we call our high schools collegiates up there in Toronto, Canada.

658
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: It's uh et o b I ce ok? Yeah, yeah, Tobacco,

659
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: you spell it Coke yeah, so you put up thirty

660
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: seven against though, did I really? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah,

661
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: good for good, good for seventeen year old met Um

662
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: the gold Star Skyline do you get involved in that?

663
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: The I mean, ah um um Cincinnati specific Uh. I've

664
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: never been the Skyline and every time I say that,

665
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I get booed. So I hopefully there's not too much

666
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: of a Cincinnati contingent in you're in your following, but

667
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: there will be now, there will be now, yes, yeah, no, no,

668
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: no Skyline for me. Yeah, but what about gold Star? No,

669
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: never gold Star. I go home. Listen, I go home,

670
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I eat celery, I eat no low fat, low fat yogurt,

671
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: and then I get a good night's rest and I

672
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: run it back there. There's no there's no skyline Chili

673
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: for me, my friend, there's no doories here. There's like

674
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: you're you're the most boring guy in baseball. Not the

675
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: most interesting exactly. But that's by design. That's by design.

676
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: That's by design. But you know, um, yeah, I gotta yeah.

677
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: Not that I'm going to cloud your head with this,

678
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: but when you go to the plate, maybe a home run,

679
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is that asking too much? No, that's not

680
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: asking too much. Today will be a day where I

681
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: think about hitting a home run because of Dan Patrick.

682
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: So thank you. Yep. And when you do it, just

683
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: say in the post game. I did that for Cincinnati

684
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: native Dan Patrick. That's perfect. Yeah, I love it. Yes, yeah,

685
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: And if you don't are you're from Cincinnati, Mason, are

686
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: you really? Yeah? I don't know that. Yeah, I grew up. Yeah,

687
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: why don't you google me? Joey, I googled you before

688
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: you came on. Yeah, but you're interviewing me. I'm not

689
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: interviewing you. This could be a conversation. I was actually

690
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: funny enough. I was actually listening to previous the best

691
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: of Dan Patrick's on my way into work, just to

692
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: figure out what kind of rhythm. It turns out you're

693
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: very sarcastic, very dry. It turns out you and your

694
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you and your group give each other a hard time.

695
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: They were talking about your plumb pants one time. Yeah.

696
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: It was a best of, Yeah, best of. Yeah, that's

697
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati kind of tone. So I mean I fit in. Yeah,

698
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: I got guys who are good clubhouse guys. Yeah, you

699
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: do like they're not good on the field, but you

700
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: know they're guys. Mendoza aligned stuff, but but I like them, like,

701
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: that's my goal in the next few years. That's my goal.

702
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: You think, no, you can't go like you're a three

703
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: what three fifteen career hit or something like that, aren't you.

704
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing fine. I don't know if it's

705
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: quite that. It's hard in this league to hit for

706
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: a high average. But that's okay, like two seventy two

707
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: this year. That's now you're out going, Dan, I'll get

708
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: it going. Um, it's always great to talk to you.

709
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: And uh, once again, we have your back when it

710
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: comes to the Hall of Fame. Well, most of us do.

711
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: One guy who still has Bryce Harper, but you know

712
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: we're we're betting on you, Joey. Well, it's not an

713
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: either or both of us. You know, it's okay. Well,

714
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying whether it happens or not.

715
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: It's kind of irrelevant. There's more than one that can join,

716
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: so Bryce is probably going to be one, and if

717
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm not, then you failed in your argument. So it's

718
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: totally fine. And by the way, when can we do

719
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: we move on from the astros booing? Can yeah? Yeah,

720
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, there's no question about it. The idea

721
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: that they were the only one doing something wrong just

722
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: baffles me. But you know, I agree with you completely.

723
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: But if Altuve gets to first base, yes, very fond

724
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: of him. I like him a lot. What kind of

725
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: conversation do you have? I've had lots of conversations with him.

726
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: We talk about hitting almost entirely. But no, no garbage

727
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: can no, no garbage can mentions like you can't even

728
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: have a little subtle dick, can you? No, because he

729
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: came out and said that. Listen, he came out and

730
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: said that he had no part in it, And I

731
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: have to believe a person based on you know, if

732
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: they I'm assuming he's telling the truth. So I'm going

733
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: to believe him and then we move on from there.

734
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, hypothetically, if you knew, if you knew what

735
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: the pitch was, ooh, how would you do if I

736
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: said fastball? Yeah, I'd still be hitting home runs. We'd

737
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: be a game ten right now. Oh, you'd have ten

738
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: consecutive home runs. There's if I knew what was coming, yes, yeah,

739
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: i'd be on. I'd be a game ten by now.

740
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: But some guys don't want to know. I don't want

741
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to know because I don't want to cheat. So if

742
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: somebody said second base and they could signal in where

743
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: you know where the location, I don't want Let me

744
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: phrase that correctly. If someone were to, like, if there's

745
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: a tip from the picture, I would want to know.

746
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: But as far as like you know, as far as

747
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: like any sort of like complicated cheating strategy, no, I'm

748
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: not for that. But if that's if if I had

749
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: the choice to know and to not know, of course

750
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: that would be an advantage. But I've ben't offer that

751
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: before in my career, and I've passed on simply because

752
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: it's like unpredictable. Sometimes they get it wrong. Sometimes they

753
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: they guess the wrong pitch, and then all of a

754
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: sudden you're taking a strike down the middle and you're

755
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: thinking of yourself, well, I can't I can't deal with

756
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: this randomness. When a picture has a tell, though, what

757
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: do you do with that? You take advantage? Okay, but

758
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: when's the last time you had Do you share it

759
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: with your teammates? When you go, hey, when he does

760
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: this with his glove, he's he's throwing fastball. I mean

761
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: we all do that. That's that's a tell. That's that's

762
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: that's Okay, of course, that's okay. Yeah, I mean, you're

763
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: not going to be oblivious to something that's clear in

764
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: your face. Give me somebody who's retired that had to

765
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: tell somebody that's retired that had to tell um. I don't,

766
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think I remember. H Randy Johnson

767
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: had to tell um, if he thought you knew what

768
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: was coming, he would hit you. So that was his telle.

769
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: So that would that's probably, that's probably, that's a tell.

770
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: That's a tell from Randy Johnson, he'd hit you. Happily.

771
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: We'll wait for the home run. Yeah, well we'll be

772
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: tuning in and the shout out. Yes. It's great to

773
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: talk to you again and yourself a lovely day, thanks

774
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: for having Thank you, buddy,