1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: It's your favorite podcasts. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: We don't listen to podcasts, so one thing that we 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: do listen to is the recording of his father's last 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: part before he died. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: It was a good one. 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 4: My dad, right before he died let out one last fart. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: We got the audio on that. 8 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 5: I like the daily, but I mostly just listened to 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 5: an audio recording of my dad's last part before he died. 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 3: I actually have my own podcast. 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh really, what is it? 12 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 3: My dad's last fart before he died? 13 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 5: On a loop last fart my dad had before he died, 14 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 5: you could really hear how stinky it was. 15 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: That fart never stops ringing in my head. 16 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 5: Puts me in a good headspace before I go into 17 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 5: my job at the pig butchering Market. 18 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunk's 19 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, December thirteenth, twenty 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: twenty two. I'm j Ski. It's here in the Classic 21 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me, as always as. 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: Tas fellas podcast listeners, this is for you. 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: It's the Tassie, this is the Beard and One, Natasha Hopoy, Trick, 24 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: Kirby Hey and Last but Not least overyonder making the 25 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: magic happen. Superproducer JD. Hello, there is and here we are. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: We're jumping right into it this morning. No housekeeping, this 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: place is immaculate. We're gonna be in and out of 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: here in an hour before we get to the games 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: last night, and we're gonna do a bunch of trade 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: rumors stuff here today. Caid Cunningham, Piston's guard number one 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: overall pick in the twenty one NBA Draft. He plans 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: to have season ending surgery on his left shin. Surgery 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: on a shin not like the sound of it anyway, right, 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: So Cunningham is expected to make a full recovery ahead 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: of training camp for next season twenty three to twenty four. 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: But he is done shut it down now. He missed 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: like the last seventeen games. I think we were just 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: waiting to see if this is ultimately what Cad and 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, his trainers and the Pistons were going to do. 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I think they thought, let's give it a month, see 41 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: if it heals at all, see if he's any better. 42 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: In the end, they're going to shut them down. So 43 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: I assume you're not that surprised by this name. 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: I guess not, but Soursa said that the shin was 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: a problem last year and then in the off season, 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: so hopefully this takes care of it for the long term. 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: As far as the Pistons short term, it kind of 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: stinks just that we wouldn't see Kate with Jade and Ivy, 49 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: see how they work together. See if Killy and Hayes 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: is for real, because he's been really good for that 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: month that Kate Cunningham has been out. See if those 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: two could work together in the back court. They were 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: gonna lose a lot of games either way, but Kate 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: Cunningham was a great player to watch, even in losses. 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: So it sucks for Pistons fans. We'll get to the 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 4: boy on Bogdanovich rumors a little bit later and whether 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 4: this news actually makes those real or are they going 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: to keep him rout? 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it more or less likely? Yeah, they move 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a vet like Bugdanovitch, even Alec Burks or something like. 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: That's a great conversation. I can't wait to have it 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: in this very quick show that we're gonna have. But 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: it just thinks that Kate's been He's been gone for 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: a month. But I guess you know, considering that this 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: was a long term thing. By all accounts like that, 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: Pistons didn't come out and say, hey, this happened, But 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 4: sources around James Edwards reporting on the athletics said that 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: it's been around for a long time. Hopefully it's just 69 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: done and done, rather that this that's needed to be 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: done because he tried to wait it out as much 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: as possible. 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: Try and rest and strengthen the shin. But in the end, 73 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: after consultation with you know, doctors and stuff like that, 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: they're saying, okay, just shut them down now. Maybe a 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: part of that is also we don't want to win 76 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: games either, not that they were really winning with them, 77 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: you know, So it doesn't make me matter any thoughts 78 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: on this TK Kate Cunningham out for the season. 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: It's just disappointing really that we don't get to see 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Cad with the other rookies that the Pistons have and 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Ivy and Durhan, like, you would like to see some 82 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: chemistry building between uh Jalen Duran and Kate Cunningham as. 83 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: Your go to pick and roll set up for the future, 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: but obviously they don't have that chance now. 85 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: It'll also be nice to see your back court of 86 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: the future playing together in Ivy and Cunningham. But obviously 87 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: this is necessary the Pistons are playing at long term here. 88 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: It's just kind of a disappointing season for Kate Cunningham. 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: You know, he's obviously going to be missing the rest 90 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: of it here, but just never looked totally in rhythm. 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: The jumper wasn't there. So maybe the leg heels up 92 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: nice and quick and he gets to work on the 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: jumper because that's going to be a big part of 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: his game going forward, I do think. 95 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: So there's plenty of more development time here for je 96 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: and Ivy of course as a rookie, and then Killian Hayes, 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: who's gotten an opportunity here to start these games and 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: had some stretches. I know, he's sort of the jumper 99 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: sort of left him here over the last couple of games. 100 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's gonna get an opportunity in what his 101 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: third season is that where he's at third fourth seasons. Yeah, 102 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: so we'll see if he can really I mean, he 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: has shown promise no doubt. Can he consistently be a 104 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: sort of an NBA starter. We're gonna find out here. 105 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, And as just Trey brought up the jade and 106 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: Ivy meshing sucks that it won't see You know, they 107 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: won't see another sixty games together because I didn't. Ivy 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: has fallen off here since Kate is not on the 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: lore to help him create shots and get better looks. 110 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: He just hasn't been a jump shooter or a great driver. 111 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: And hopefully the the shin gets strengthened. I'm not sure 112 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: what shin strengthening exercises. 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Are, but probably just rest a lot, but stay off it, 114 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I guess. 115 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: But he's over to guy. 116 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Be doing some deep squats, so hopefully he's ready to 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: go start the next. 118 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: Season, not the pad on the shin quad extension, not 119 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: that it probably doesn't help. 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Let's get to the games, all right. We got to 121 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: start with Damian Lillard, who was on fire last night. 122 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: He tied his own Blazers record with eleven three pointers. 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: It'll win, Trey, and he set out the entire fourth 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: quarter so Klay Thompson can rest easy. Otherwise, you know, 125 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Dean may have had a chance at the NBA all 126 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: time record for games made in a three is made 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: in a game, but eleven not bad? 128 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: Too bad? 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: And you know, I saw a lot of people saying, Oh, 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: if only it would have been a closer game, he 131 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: would have had a chance to break it. Dame did 132 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: play another five minutes in the third quarter after he 133 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: got to eleven, had three more attempts at the three 134 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: to break at least his own record for the Blazers, 135 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: but man, he was getting some easy shots. I was 136 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: not very impressed with the way the Timberwolves were playing defense. 137 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: Kind of weird to be playing a drop coverage against 138 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard. 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: It was not working. 140 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: There was also multiple times they would end up the 141 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: Timberwolves would switch and NOAs Reed would go to help 142 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: at the rim and kind of forget that Dame. Lillard 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: was just wide open in the corner from three, and 144 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: he's gonna make those ones, especially when he is in 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: an incredible rhythm. 146 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's getting to be table season. Skeetzee. 147 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know you saw the tweets last 148 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: night his Dame at the NFP table. Blazers are fifteen 149 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: and twelve, so not realistically, Dame's only played fifteen games, 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: but the Blazers are ten and five when he plays. 151 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: Since coming back from the calf strain, thirty three point 152 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 2: seven points per game on fifty fifty one hundred shooting, 153 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: So those four games certainly MVP caliber. If he strings 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: it together, if he plays, you know, sixty five games 155 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: or whatever, he can end up maxing out out at 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: the end of the season. He'll at least get some votes. 157 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: What I do think he's solidifying is an All Star appearance. 158 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 4: I think I think he's going to take that from 159 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: Jeremy Grant and Forredy Simon's here as they get better. 160 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: It did stink watching McDaniels guard him. They always put 161 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: the Wolves always put McDaniels on the best perimeter player, 162 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: and it feels like they just kind of forget about 163 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: the rest of the defense. They just say, all right, 164 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: you're our best perimeter defender, go get him. And it's 165 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: just not a team effort. And I know you want 166 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: to pull the plug on the Wolves to some degree, 167 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: just blow this thing up. Well, you know, Anthony Towns, Yes, 168 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: that's very interesting. It's this team. Yeah, it's not gelling. 169 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: I know it's it's one night, but even if they 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: came together the last couple of games, it's just it's 171 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: difficult to watch it. It's obviously early and they're obviously 172 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: going to try go bear and tounce together when Towns 173 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: comes back. But it's difficult to watch unless you're watching 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards and his athletic abilities. At times he had 175 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: his full It was a nice I'm bringing up because 176 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: it was a cool full vertical we saw from Anthony Edwards. 177 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: Is you don't often see the two footed jump like 178 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: he's at the combine one minute left in the first half. 179 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: It was just a full on Anthony Edwards, Let's see 180 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: how high you can jump? And he threw it down. 181 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: That guy is ridiculous, ridiculously athletic. But they just got 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: bombed by the Blazers team. They literally got smacked. And 183 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: I know they're a five hundred ish team, but it's 184 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: a real Jackal and Hyde situation here. Sometimes an okay 185 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: team and a lot of the times just a yuck team. 186 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So Lillard the only player in NBA history to 187 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: make more three pointers through the first three quarters of 188 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: a game. Is it was like one of the persons 189 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: that made more through three quarters of action. 190 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: You can get it, Clay Thompson. 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: Lay Clay had fourteen getting. 192 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in twenty eighteen. Yeah, that's right, fourteine 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: through three. Yeah, I think you're right. So what a 194 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: night from Damian Lillard. And yeah, Trey already gave you 195 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: the stats there since returning from the cast, right, not bad. 196 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: He is in the MVP restaurant. I don't think he's 197 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: at the table, but he's lingering around. 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: You're always happy to see him show up. 199 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's generally there. 200 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: Interesting to the conversation. 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. He's eye in that last slice of 202 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: pizza from across the room. You know, he might grab 203 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: a wine glass and get a little splash of you know, 204 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: we'll see. But it's crowded, man, there are a lot 205 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: of people in this MVP restaurant and there's only five 206 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: or six sitting at the table. Let's go to our 207 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: other game here from last night, the late one, Kawhi 208 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: leading the Clippers over the Celtics in in his best 209 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: game I think since injury all season long, Kawhi looked 210 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: pretty dominant along with Paul George, and the Celtics look 211 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: suddenly beatable here at least two nights in a row 212 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: where they can't hit a three sort of save their life. 213 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: But would you think. 214 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard in this one looking Kawhi. They don't see 215 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: him play great that often, but they're seven and two 216 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: when he plays. They're six and one when he starts. 217 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: But he doesn't play well, he's played four or five games. 218 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: Here comes Kawhi. They obviously need Kawhi Leonard to be playing, 219 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: not only in the playoffs, to be anything. But we 220 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: have to see him here in January, February, March, and April. 221 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: And he understands it. He and his crew of trainers, 222 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: they know he's got to get going and that's why 223 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: he's playing. So all those finals predictions earlier in preseason 224 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: where a lot of people had the Clippers in there, 225 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: they're still alive. They're still alive because if he comes along. 226 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: We talk about them not really having an offense. Do 227 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: they need an offense when Kawhi is the offense. I 228 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: mean he was looking isolation basketball like Kawhi. He was 229 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: looking raptors like Kawhi, where he was just one on 230 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: one you couldn't stop him, and everybody else looks so 231 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: much better because of it. Because of the trickle down effect. 232 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 4: Everybody on that roster fits in so well. It was 233 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: a bad night for the Celtics, but this is all 234 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: about the Clippers having a really, really, really strong game. 235 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Kawhi made ten to twelve shots, twenty five points, nine boards, 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: six assists there TK and this was a I don't know, 237 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I dare to call it a signature win for the 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Clippers here and in mid December, their best win of 239 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: the season. I guess, a really good Celtics team who 240 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: are on a you know, they're on a tough part 241 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: of their schedule, is road trip all that, but this 242 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: was solid for a team searching for some rhythm and 243 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: consistency and having both their stars play. Yeah, they're going 244 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: to look like a pretty damn good team. 245 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I loved Kawhi's line. 246 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: I think it's his first twenty point game in over 247 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: five hundred days or something along those lines. Pretty crazy. 248 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: Only ten threes for the Clippers, which I think is 249 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: super impressive. They won the turnover battle fifteen to nine, 250 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: and they won the offensive rebounding battle eleven to five. 251 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: So that's how they were generating a few extra possessions 252 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: and some easy points against the Celtics team that's usually 253 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: pretty solid scoring. Some people will say the greatest offensive 254 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: all the batable, that's the batible. Nonetheless, I thought the 255 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: Clippers did a really good job at two things, getting 256 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: in to their actions super quick. Like this is generally 257 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: a pretty slow team. They like to walk the ball 258 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: up isolate for stuff. They were jogging the ball up 259 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: and made it a huge difference. And number two, I 260 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: thought the Clippers did a really good job of making 261 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: things tough for Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. They were 262 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: in a crowd basically the entire night, tough shots for 263 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: all of them. Only sixteen to thirty five shooting combined 264 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: for Tatum and Brown and five turnovers combined. They made 265 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: it impossible for them to score inside. They were just 266 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: seeing a whole bunch of bodies. And that's the Clippers 267 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: at their best is using their size and length defensively 268 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: to just make things tough for the other team. If 269 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: they're able to get offense as well, they are going 270 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: to be tough to beat. 271 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: They just don't want to go through the playing tournament. 272 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: Nobody does, so they got to get up to at 273 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: least the sixth seed, which means a lot of Kawhi 274 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: Leonard playing. 275 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, and it's been stop and start right 276 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: with Kawhi did this entire season he's playing some games 277 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: and he's out for a good chunk and he comes 278 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: back and then it's the ankle and he's out again. 279 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: But you're right, he's back here, at least outside that 280 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: one back to back game that he sat, which is 281 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: not going to shock anyone with Kawhi. But but so far, 282 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: so good. This little stretch here. The Celtics, we were 283 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: talking about, Yeah, that greatest offense of all time, and 284 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I was bringing up like their team shooting splits, one 285 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: of them being that they were over forty percent from 286 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: three as a team, and we were debating, like can 287 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: they keep that up? Like that's a hell of a mark. 288 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: Not a lot of teams in NBA history have ever 289 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: done that. Well, let's dip now here to thirty nine 290 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: point one percent as a team from deep, still a 291 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: great number. But the last two games here, these back 292 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: to back shooting performances have been pretty rough. From deep 293 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: twelve to forty, so thirty percent against the Warriors and 294 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: then last night nine to thirty nine, and then you 295 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: pair that with a bunch of turnovers and it was 296 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: a big reason why they got blown out. And the 297 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Clippers doing a good job, Like you said, Louis even 298 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: mentioned that Trey like we made a conscious effort to 299 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: like have Tatum, especially Tatum Brown to some extent in 300 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: a crowd, a lot of guys, a lot of arms, 301 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: a lot of bodies and just make life difficult. And 302 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I think I want to say a part of this 303 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: is a it's a tough schedule here right now for 304 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: the Celtics, them on their road trip, so yeah, they're allowed. 305 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: To have it a two game dip. I will say 306 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: they were crowded on the perimeter. It would be great 307 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: to get Robert Williams back to utilize above the rim 308 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: offense because they just haven't been able to do that 309 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: this season. They've They've obviously been ridiculously incredible driving the ball, 310 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: but Robert Williams will be back soon. That will help 311 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: the offense just easier baskets, even though this has been 312 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: the best team. But they are coming back down to earth. 313 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: The Bucks are, you know, technically one game behind them, 314 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: but they have the same amount of losses here now, 315 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: which is wild to think because you think the Celtics 316 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: are just sort of running away with the Eastern Conference, 317 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: but the Bucks are right there yet and tied in 318 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: the lost column. Either way, I'm excited to see Kawhi 319 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: Leonard play basketball again, just because we. 320 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: Know Joe here. 321 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: Oh, come on, nobody, he's played in four or five games. 322 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: After the game, he was award well, well, yes, he 323 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 4: just he knows his body, okay. And after the game 324 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: he was asked very excited. No, no, sorry, the reporter 325 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: doesn't do that. The reporter asks in regular in a 326 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: regular tone, and the Kawhi Leonard will reply in that borington. 327 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: But he was asked about the merits of playing in 328 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: four or five games, having his best regular season game. 329 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: He said he I'm not going to do the impression 330 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: anymore because I ruined it. He said, I don't care 331 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: about the regular season. He cares about the playoffs. And 332 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: they shut up all those Celtics fans, which was all 333 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: the Celtics fans traveling well in Los Angeles. It felt 334 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: like a home game for the Celtics. And yeah, that 335 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: was that was just surgical for Kawhi ten of twelve. 336 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: No one could stop him. 337 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Got it back to back, coming up here, Timberwolves and Sons. 338 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Which one do you want him to play in? 339 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: Sons? 340 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: Got her play in the Suns game. 341 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you said, it's Mini then Phoenix. 342 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: Like there home games Wednesday, Minnesota, Thursday, Phoenix, which was Phoenix. 343 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: He's probably gonna play in Minnesota. 344 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I think I put me down for he'll play in 345 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: the Minnesota game and take the Phoenix game up. All right, 346 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: let's keep it going here. Let's take it all the 347 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: way back to two thousand and four. Jimmy Butler's lay 348 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: flurry helps the Heat put away the Pacers. I shit 349 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: you not. In New Year twenty twenty two, the final 350 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: score was Miami eighty seven, Indiana eighty two, lowest scoring 351 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: game of the season by far, eighty seven to eighty two. 352 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: And for some reason I was watching go out of this. Yeah, 353 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: what were we doing? But it was close, man, got 354 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Yeah it was it was close. And the 355 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Pacers came back. They were down like nineteen, right, and 356 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: then they suddenly had the lead, and then yeah, it 357 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: was Jimmy time once again. It's like the fourth time 358 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: I've watched the Heat game of the Seas where Jimmy 359 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Butler's like just rips off a I don't know, like 360 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: a five to ten point stretch. He had seven in 361 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: a row last night to sort of like seal the 362 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: deal from Miami. But what a game. 363 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: This is the Heat recipe right now. Number one clamps. 364 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: The defense is showing up every night for the Heat, 365 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: which is why they at least have some what a 366 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: fallback plan? Number two bam Autobaio is playing really well. 367 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: He what he finished with last night twenty two and seventeen. 368 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: He's one of the lead in twenty fifteen games so 369 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: far this season. And then Jimmy just drags him across 370 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: the line when it's winning time. This was a two 371 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: point game with three and a half minutes left. Jimmy 372 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: made a layup, hit the and one free throws, Ball 373 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: made another layup, then hit a jumper. Suddenly it was 374 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: a nine point lead one minute later, and in a 375 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: game when they scored twelve points a piece, a nine 376 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: point lead turned out to be insurmountable. I was like, ooh, sorry, 377 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if we can get 378 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: nine here in the last two and a half minutes. 379 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: But shout out to the Heat. They did a great job, 380 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: especially taking Tyrese Haliburton out of the game. Finished with 381 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: a single point. I'd rather have an over. 382 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: Than one point. Yeah right, actually yeah, I like the 383 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: jokes flying around about this game last night. I know 384 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: Hollinger was having a blast of a lot of Dale 385 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Davis mentions. 386 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: David talk. 387 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: That's my favorite. 388 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't need any more Davis bros. In 389 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: my life right now. I heard Alvin Williams on the 390 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: Raptors broadcast couple of days ago invoked the name of 391 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 4: Antonio Davis. Antonio Davis used to get mad when he 392 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: was left out on an island. Out there. Too much 393 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 4: Davis talk for me. I'm surprised we're talking about this 394 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: eighty seven eighty two game. There's some other good games 395 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: in the Associations anomaly test. It is, it is an anomaly. 396 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: How did you go about finding out that this was 397 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: the low scoring game of the season. 398 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I saw it, maybe heard it on the broadcast that 399 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: they had mentioned the previous game. Was it bulls involved? 400 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: I think it was. 401 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: I don't remember it was it was ninety two to 402 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: eighty one. 403 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 404 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: I mean they were they had this circle that's going 405 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: down as the lowest scoring game going into the fourth quarter, 406 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: and they're. 407 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: Like they at getting close and they didn't. They're like 408 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: ten points shining each that. 409 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 4: It's crazy that's what the stat operator is good for. 410 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: This used to be a high scoring game. Honestly when 411 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: we started this podcast, maybe a couple of years prior 412 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: to starting this podcast, like this was a normal score. 413 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh this isn't good. It's like, wow, game lights out. 414 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Nu's the thing. How far we've come, you know, less than. 415 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: These guys are shooting the lights? 416 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: All right? Well, you just Haliburton having that one point 417 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: over from the floor. I would rather have a point 418 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: because you just want to have zero. 419 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: But the way gets snelled. 420 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: It's the snell line. The Heat do a good job 421 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: of taking away perimeter players. They can do that. And 422 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: I know we're not going to get into any Pacers 423 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: specific rumors later on in this show, because it's the 424 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: same old Miles Turner buddy heel. But I do like 425 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: the fact that the Pacers lose a couple of games 426 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: for them because it allows them with their fan base 427 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: to say, you know, we're not good enough. We should 428 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: need to trade a couple of these players. So I 429 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: think they can still go in both directions. As I've said, 430 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: they've come back down to earth. If you're top four 431 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference, it's kind of hard to say 432 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 4: to your fans, we're trading Miles Turner and Buddy heel 433 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: right one or the other, trading one of our players. 434 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: But they can get better by trading them long term, 435 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: so I think it makes more sense. 436 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Well, the other games, let me chuck them all at you. 437 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: You can touch on any. Lucas scored thirty eight. MAVs 438 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: beat the Thunder. Nice little duel there with sga epic duel. 439 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kelvin Johnson with a game saving block on 440 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell. As the Spurs when they're third in a row. 441 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: You know what's going on with this team? Oh he 442 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: had Jones and Brooks powering Memphis to the one twenty 443 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: eight one to oh three win over Atlanta, and then 444 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: finally Katie and Kyrie Irving lead the well rested Nets. 445 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: I love that the AP report had that the well 446 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: rested Nets past the Wizards one twelve one. That was 447 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: our Pickham game there as well. And Durant was loving 448 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: some of the moves from Kyrie last night. We had 449 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: a little left hand finish that he had. But yeah, 450 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: any of those jump out to you want to talk about. 451 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: Didn't like the Wizards losing in the cherry blossom jerseys 452 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 4: at home. Don't like that. Kyle Kuzma, though, getting every 453 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: shot he wants, will get into him, and the trade 454 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: rumors can't wait for that. Yes, SGA, you want a 455 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: player at the table forty two for Shakegil just Alexander 456 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: in the loss, dude stays efficient and just quickly about 457 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: the Spurs beating the Calves, just like the Celtics come 458 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: to town. I'll give the Calves this status. The Calves 459 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: coming to town is a good team. Spurs are getting 460 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: up for that that game. They really got off for 461 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: the game, and you could tell by the way they 462 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: celebrated after the game, Kelvin Johnson jumping around like you 463 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: know it was a great, great game saving block. Yeah, 464 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: and the Calves tried to come back, but the Caves 465 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: didn't play like the Calves last night, and the Spurs 466 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: were ready for it. And that's what happens in the 467 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 4: National Basketball Association. You gotta play every. 468 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: Night, gotta play every night. 469 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: It's tough to do. 470 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: That is very tough to do. 471 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Look at us here in the Classic Factory. We gotta 472 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: break it every day. Yeah, some days were better than others. 473 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, availability man got it. 474 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: We got it. We got good availability. 475 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on those four games, so. 476 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of quick notary skis. In that Grizzlies game, 477 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: Tias Jones had a wide open breakaway layup, two hand 478 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: backboard slap. 479 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was incredible. 480 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: He has two dunks in his NBA career, none since 481 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. My prediction Tyas Jones throws down a dunk 482 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: this year, grizzlyes bench goes inside. 483 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Well, they were, they were pissed off that he did 484 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: exactly rolling. Yeah, he definitely went. 485 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: On sometime this season. Everybody will look crazy. So that's 486 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: a dumb prediction, but it's gonna come true. 487 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: Also good Jaron Jackson Junior eight blocks last night. Guys 488 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: played eleventh eleven games so far this season, He's already 489 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: tenth in total blocks. He's got forty blocks in eleven games. 490 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: He's gonna make a at least somewhat of a run 491 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: at Defensive Player of the Year as the season goes 492 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: on and he gets his numbers up. The other game, 493 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: that was interesting. You talked about the Nets there taking 494 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: it to the Wizards. Four straight wins for the Nets, 495 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: eight and one in their last nine. Kevin Durant and 496 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving last night fifty four points on eighteen of 497 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: thirty four shooting. Ben Simmons went to the bench, came 498 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: back starting, went in and out of the lineup due 499 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: to injury neary a peet. Nope, nope, this is perfect 500 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: for the Brooklyn Nets. Just play basketball, make zero news, 501 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: and win some games. 502 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: How long can it last? Last? 503 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: December fifteenth is in two days. Trade rumors will be 504 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: flying like crazy. Maybe something goes hey wire, but it's 505 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: good times for the Nets right now. Also, Kevin Durant's 506 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 2: shorts are getting shorter. I don't know how it's happening, 507 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: but for the first time last night, I was like, whoa, 508 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 2: this guy's wearing Daisy Dukes out there. 509 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, like that were part of it. 510 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: I don't know. 511 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: They just looked incredibly short to me. But he had 512 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: a fun game to watch as well. And then yeah, 513 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: like you're saying, he was celebrating on all these Kyrie 514 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: makes that came looking crazy to me though, with the 515 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: pink floor and the Nets are wearing uniforms that look 516 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: more like Washington Wizard's uniforms because they were wearing like 517 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: old New Jersey Nets style stuff, a lot of color 518 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: going on. 519 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: There were a lot of color, plenty of color. 520 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyrie, after the game, quote, man, let's just go 521 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: win ball games. That's it, that's really what the attitude is. Yes, 522 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: and here's the money part. We know the talent we have. 523 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: This is our group. No more excuses, no more distractions. 524 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: All right, you said it, Kyrie. Leave it at that, 525 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: and we're good to go, because you guys are cooking 526 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: right now. They're seventeen to twelve. As they sneak up 527 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: on these teams like the Cleveland Cavaliers definitely after losing 528 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: a couple, and then even even the Celtics and Bucks, 529 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: they're not that far ahead of them. So here the 530 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: comtasts the nets for right now. 531 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little like the Kuhiet Leonard situation. Well, 532 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: believe that they're steady a little later in the season. 533 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: They are similar in the sense like when you see 534 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: them play and everybody's playing and there aren't distractions, you're like, Yep, 535 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: this team could win a title. I mean, they have 536 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: the talent to do it. But then you're always like, 537 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, I've done this before. 538 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I've tricked myself, I've talked myself into this before, either 539 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: injuries with the Clippers case or distractions or even injuries 540 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: with the Nets case. And you're like, you want to 541 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: pump the brakes. 542 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 4: A little bit. But Kevin Branda is under talked about. 543 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: He has not been talked about it a lot. 544 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: He is the VP sitting at the MVP. 545 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, he is there. He has to be said, 546 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: he has to even if it's the least talked about 547 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: seat at the maybe it's just. 548 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of drafty, like he's by the window or something. 549 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 4: The thing is, you would talk about that seat though, 550 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: you know what I. 551 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Mean that how bad it is? 552 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: Like the worst seat. You know it's the worst seat, 553 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 4: So you talk about it. 554 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: What if you're sitting on the table, I'll tell you mine. 555 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: I hate when them like the light is bad on 556 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: you at a seat for whatever reason, Like sometimes they'll 557 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: hit the wrong chair and it's like too bright. It's 558 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: like you're under a spot, like you're like being interrogated. 559 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: I hate that hat. 560 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 4: I hate a table leg in between my legs. 561 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 562 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: I hate I hate a seat where you're facing away 563 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: from all of the action, you know, like the entire 564 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: rest of the restaurant is back there. 565 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 3: Your table is here. 566 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's how they assassinate you in the mafia. 567 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: It's the most dangerous seat. 568 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: You know. You got to sit against the wall so 569 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: you can see all of the threats. 570 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: I'm so with you on they all feel very uncomfortable with. 571 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: My back and nobody sits down. We're like, oh, I'm 572 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: you hate that. You hate that seat? I like that's 573 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: you like that? 574 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: See we just stay in. 575 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: The whole, all right. So let us know in the 576 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: stream team other things you hate about sitting at a table, 577 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: the worst part being in a restaurant, let us know. Uh, 578 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: and you also brought up like Jared Jackson Junior in 579 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: the case he's making already here for Defensive Player of 580 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: the Year, don't you worry. On tomorrow's podcast, we're going 581 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: to talk about these new, reimagined NBA awards renamed and 582 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: in the case of the m v P, well in 583 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: case of all of them, I guess uh just completely redone. 584 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: Got some thoughts on these not good ones, we'll say 585 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: it for. 586 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: I think they should name the Defensive Player of the 587 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: Award after Utah Swatt An abbe guy liked it. Iron 588 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 4: Eagle loved it on the call a block Uta swa, 589 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: this guy does it all? 590 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 3: What was the other? Utah? 591 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: The shoota? Yes, he's dropped. 592 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: Got a great name to make a bunch of fun 593 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: nicknames with, for sure. M hm Okay, we gotta take. 594 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: A break here. 595 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: When we come back, we are going to get into 596 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the trade. Rumors don't go anywhere all right. Back in 597 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: the Classic Factory, the stream team is buzzing about the 598 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: MVP table conversation and the question about what's the worst 599 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: seat to sit in at a table. But just so 600 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: everybody's clear, the MVP table, I think we decided on 601 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: five and we've been convinced we can talk ourselves into six. 602 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: We can pull up a chair to our circular. 603 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 4: Every sat the big. 604 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: No flatware, So it's it's five to six. 605 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: And then we do need to clarify it is not 606 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: a booth, because no grown man will sit in a booth. 607 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: As the stream team says, I don't know why, even 608 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: though the photo we always show you of us at 609 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: that pizza place in Chicago is definitely in a booth. 610 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah it's nice because your back's against the wall. 611 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's coming up and sneaking up and killing Yeah, 612 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: except for jeral you never know who's outside the window. 613 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: Turtle neck. 614 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: And then yeah, there was a bunch of answers to 615 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: the worst seat. So people hate a middle seat in 616 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: a booth stuck in there. That's not a great one. 617 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: I hate the seat right next to the kitchen so 618 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: you can see everyone's food coming out before yours. All 619 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: this says that, Yeah, I don't like that. What else 620 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: do we go out here to be there? Oh? 621 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's worse than kitchen than me. 622 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. 623 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Greg's a tall guy, so he says a restaurant table 624 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: they often have hidden support bars that are awful on 625 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: his knees, so he hates all tables, podcast tables, that's right. 626 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Filthy Cards says, my request is just to not sit 627 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: to the left of a left hander. I've thought about 628 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: that part, so true. Wow, Oscar says, hate sitting on 629 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: the crack of a booth seat. 630 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: I like that. 631 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: It's like an uncomfort because the cushions, especially if it's 632 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: been worn in a little bit. 633 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: It's like if you're at like a cracker barrel, you're 634 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: cave in there. 635 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: All the seats in a cracker barrel have cracks and 636 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: not a lot of people know that. Uh. And then 637 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Lance says, I hate sitting in the spot that the 638 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: waitress stands to take orders. 639 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: Like right next to you. That's it does make you 640 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: feel a little bit like a kid. 641 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Alex says, yeah, the chair by the door, I can't 642 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: take a cold breeze. Yeah, there's a lot of thoughts 643 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: on great tables and chairs in this MVP table, but 644 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's quite a not a race, it's 645 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: quite a table in terms of who's sitting down because 646 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: like I'm almost like at the point I know it's 647 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: just too bad games, But like has Tatum stood up 648 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: from the MVP table and the like go check on 649 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: his car if he's double parked and stuff like that, 650 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't know that like that that might be 651 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: like a KD seed or something like that, because it's 652 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: like Giannis is there, Lucas there? 653 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: The first I want to say, he's sort of locked 654 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: in the middle. If it's a booth, he's in the 655 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: middle and he doesn't have to get out. But does 656 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: he have a big bladder, because you have to have 657 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: the biggest bladder to be sitting in that. 658 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: That's honestly, why I always sit in the in the 659 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: in the booth. I sat down to set yesterday we 660 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: went out on Chesters. I was like, I'll sit in 661 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: the booth. 662 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: I pee the last the least you did say that, 663 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: I will gladly take that seat. 664 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, everybody else went p except 665 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: for you. 666 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: The math works out. 667 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: That's right. 668 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: Give me the booth. 669 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I think I think of all of them, I have Yiannis. 670 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: I think Giannie is in the if we're in a booth, 671 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: I think he's in the middle, because he's like the 672 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: most he ain't going anywhere, is always going to be 673 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: in the MVP conversation. He usually plays a lot, puts 674 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: up ridiculous numbers, of course, and his team is good. 675 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: Steady does think he study Freddy. I'm not saying he's 676 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: winning MVP, but I think he's always there anyway. Okay, 677 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: let's get to some trade rumors. Oh wow, it's been 678 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: so long since the NBA trade rumors. Intro. Okay, I 679 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: got a bunch here for you. A lot of this 680 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: coming by way of our guy Shams at the Athletic 681 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: with his inside pass, you know, dropping all of these 682 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: tasty little nuggets that you can chew on if you want. 683 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: All right, don't gobble them down like your Kobyashi or Chestnut. 684 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: Chew on them. Just chew and don't use water. Okay, 685 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: actually enjoy this nugget. I'm gonna throw at you here. 686 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: The Lakers. Let's talk about the Lakers, of course. Sham 687 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: says the Lakers are prioritizing shooting in their conversations with teams. 688 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: They've discussed packages, including salaries and a protective first round 689 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: pick for Detroit's boy On Bogdanovic, and the Lakers have 690 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: also discussed concepts love that word, involving Cam Reddish and 691 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Evan Fournier on the New York Knicks. Any thoughts on, 692 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: especially with the Bogdanovitch and the Lakers just trying to 693 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: get shooting some some not regurgitated sort of rumors here? 694 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: Does Chestnut ever do that? Chew it up, spit it out, 695 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: put in some water, and put it back down. I 696 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know. 697 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: I don't know either, Yeah, boy Bogdanovic, Yeah this feels regurgitated. 698 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: But boy On Bugdadovich had a great quarter against the Lakers. 699 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: He had a twenty five point quarter earlier this week 700 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: against the Lakers. He's had three thirty point games in December. 701 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: This guy is a baller. I don't think the Pistons 702 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 4: are going to trade him. He's thirty three years of age. 703 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: It would make sense for him to go to a 704 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: contender and then to get a draft pick back. But 705 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: I just think the Pistons are sitting there and saying 706 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: Little Caesars Arena has not been bumping for a long time. 707 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: This guy is a very, very solid player. He's one 708 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: of the free agents after next year that would come available, 709 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: and we got him, and I think they are just 710 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: going to hold on unless they are blown away by 711 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: a Lakers draft. 712 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: Pick unprotected, first round, unprotected. They would do it like yeah. 713 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 4: But Polenka ain't doing that. I think there's a stalemate there. 714 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: Reddish Fournier obviously far lower down the list than boybuc Danovich, 715 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: who is again the perfect Laker compliment. It would be 716 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: so good because he's not a point guard that needs 717 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: the ball. Lebron's the point guard on that team when 718 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: it comes down to it. This is exactly what Lebron had, 719 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, through the good years, and he would be 720 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: so good. He can just do it himself and Lebron 721 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: respects this, dude. It just makes so much sense. But 722 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: I just don't see a deal coming unless they're overwhelmed 723 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 4: by something. But they don't have the players. It would 724 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: have to be a pick. Yeah, And it's the protections 725 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: on that pick. 726 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: Twenty seven or twenty nine draft picks that the Lakers. 727 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: How what do you think? 728 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 729 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: And isn't the line that the Lakers are prioritizing championship 730 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: altering players. I don't necessarily think boy on Bogdanovich is that. 731 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: But of the names that they are in the mix 732 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: for right now, he's the closest and the fittest, nice 733 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: and like you're saying, there has been some success against Lebron, 734 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: which surely counts for something when it comes to who 735 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: they're acquiring. But I agree that the Lakers should be 736 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: targeting shooting here. They were twenty second and three point 737 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: percentage of last year twenty eighth this year. This has 738 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: been a problem since they traded all of their shooters 739 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: after winning the championship, still one of the craziest moves. 740 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: The problem for the Lakers is that the one guy who's. 741 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: Going to bring back like significant players out there is 742 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Westbrook because of his contract. You got to add a 743 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: pick to trade that contract at this point, which means 744 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: the other team is getting no value back, which then 745 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: means you have to toss on the other pick to 746 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: give them something of value. So it's gonna be tough. 747 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: And if Bogdanovic is the best they can do, I 748 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if that's gonna be good 749 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: enough for the Pistons because this ship is a guy 750 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: who should be in demand throughout the league. 751 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the rumor was Beverly, you know, plus pick 752 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: plus filler for Bogdanovic, and it's yeah, so it's just 753 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 4: be the pick instead of yeah, the Westbrook angle, which is, yeah, 754 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 4: it doesn't really make sense if you are the other 755 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: teams around the league. So yeah, if you're of too, 756 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 4: you can be of two minds here of the Pistons 757 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: should trade blind bag Diamage get something for him? 758 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: Why he because he doesn't match up with their their youth. 759 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: Their timeline. He's thirty three. Yeah, he's their leading score. 760 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 4: But there's also the hey, you need good players at 761 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: some point. You're here in that locker room, your kid, 762 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: you're Killian Hayes, you're Jade and Ivy, Why are you 763 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: trading one of our good players? I mean, year after 764 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: year after year. I get that sort of makes sense. 765 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think they won't be overwhelmed 766 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: enough to trade them. 767 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: So you think bug Donovich will be there after the 768 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: trade deadline time. I think they will be in Detroit. 769 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: They won't be overwhelmed enough. It's an offer, Okay, I 770 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: don't think so. All right, three team deal. Sean's pitching 771 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: this one to everyone. He's heard whispers the Sun's recently 772 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: engaged in three team talks that would have sent Jay 773 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: Crowder to Milwaukee to the Bucks, four Bucks second round 774 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: draft picks, along with some players on name players here 775 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: to Houston, and then Eric Gordon and or Kenyan Martin 776 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: Junior to Phoenix. All Right, everybody followed that. Seams went 777 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: on to say the Rockets are coveting one first round 778 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: pick for Gordon and for Martin, a very good first rounder, 779 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: not a batch of second I know on this batch 780 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: of second rounders, the Rockets have had interests. This is 781 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: not a surprise in Gordon from several contending teams, is 782 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: what Sean says in his sources, but appear less willing 783 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: to entertain the topic of trading Kenyon Martin Jr. So 784 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: Eric Gordon on the trade. Yeah, this is the I 785 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: think I think it is. I think it is that 786 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. 787 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, right, finally he's been They've been trying to 788 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: get a first round pick for Eric Gordon for three 789 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 2: seasons pretty much since I don't know, since Chris Paul left, 790 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: I guess is when they've been trying. But this is 791 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 2: the year they might actually do it. Also, Eric Gordon's 792 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: been trying to get the Phoenix for years I feel 793 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: like as well, so maybe. 794 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: Things finally line up. 795 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: But I actually think the Suns should be more interested 796 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: in Kenyan Martin Junior than they showed in Eric Gordon. 797 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: They don't need another shooter. The Sons are great at shooting. 798 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: Eric Gordon's not a free throw either. They need somebody 799 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: a big wing to basically replace what they're losing in 800 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 2: Jay Crowder and what. 801 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: They have lost in not having him out there. 802 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: So maybe that's why the Rockets are saying we want 803 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: a first round pick for this guy who was a 804 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 2: second round pick and doesn't have a long track record 805 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: of success. 806 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: It's posturing season out here. 807 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why I kind of think Detroit's kind 808 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: of bigging up themselves right now about boy On Bogdanovitch 809 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: trying to drive up the offers. Surely that's what Houston's 810 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: doing as well. Because Eric Gordon could get a first 811 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: round pick. I think it's unlikely that kJ Martin gets 812 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: a first round pick, but at least he's a guy 813 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: that could help some teams with his energy and his athleticism. 814 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's finally the year the Rockets sell. 815 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 4: I think it just finally happens. Have they waited too 816 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 4: long to be able to get a first round pick 817 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 4: for Harrick Gordon? You know, Eric Gordon is long in 818 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 4: the tooth. You know, he's in his mid thirties. 819 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: Here, it's if it's a pick, it's a first round, 820 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: it's protected, and it's coming at the back end in 821 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: the first round. I like Eric Gordon, and I think 822 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: he would help a contending team. He still is a 823 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: decent player. 824 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 4: He's absolutely gives it his. 825 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: Best on the defensive end, and we know he's a scorer. 826 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: He can still do that. He's a two way scorer. 827 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: So I like him on a lot of teams, but 828 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: just not I don't want to give up too much 829 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: for him. 830 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, I get it. Yeah, he seems 831 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 4: perfect to be coming off a bench for a contending team. 832 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: He will work his ass off defensively. Yeah. The Kenyan 833 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: Martin Junior thing is interesting. They have a lot of 834 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: talent in Houston. They have just so much, so it 835 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 4: makes sense to get rid of Eric Gordon. I guess 836 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: they don't want to pay Kenny Martin Junior in the 837 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 4: long term. He's going to be extension eligible next year. 838 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: They've got Chen Good in the front court and you know, 839 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 4: Tarry Easton and a bunch of wings. It's it's interesting 840 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: because he's having a really great season. Yeah, solid, So 841 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: why give up on him? 842 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: What type of extension is Kenyan Martin Junior looking at 843 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: twelve million? Thirteen? You know? 844 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 3: Maybe? 845 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: Not even Yeah, sounds like a lot, but yeah, not. 846 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: That a maybe, So that's going to be a good deal. 847 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I wouldn't be looking to move Kenyan 848 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: Martin Junior if I'm from the Rockets unless again, you're 849 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: getting something like, wow, geez, another bite out the apple. 850 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: Amazing draft pick that we have to do. But it 851 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: does Gordon, Yes, not Kennymore. 852 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, Kenyon Martin Junior shouldn't get twelve 853 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 4: million dollars, But it feels like the hype is just 854 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 4: so high right now that I. 855 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Don't think he's far fetched. I mean not to. 856 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: Depend depending how you look at it. Marvin Bagley just 857 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 4: got that much thirteen and a half extension per year 858 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 4: with the Detroit Business for three years, which was yeah, 859 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 4: a contract that hasn't worked out so far. Yeah, so yeah, 860 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: you could see that. 861 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Danny LaRue at the Athletic made a good point, you know, 862 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: the cap expert. He said, another reason a deal should 863 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: happen regarding Eric Corn at least is that Gordon is 864 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: the Rocket's best option if they want to take on 865 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: long term money in exchange for a stronger return. I 866 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: like this thinking here from again Danie LaRue. The idea 867 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: like they the Rockets may take on a bad contract. 868 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: They have a ton of cap space, and who knows 869 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: if they're going to be even doing it anything with 870 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: it in twenty three when it's not like the sexiest 871 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: free agency class. So they could do that, but to 872 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: get a better, better pick, young talent thrown in stuff 873 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: like that, you can help a team out by Okay, 874 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: we'll take your crappy contract or something you don't want, 875 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to sweeten the pot with, you 876 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: know again, draft capital or young guys. I think that's 877 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: a possibility. But Eric Gordon, you're you're more convinced will 878 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: be moved than Bugdanovic. 879 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like Trey brought up about the Pistons, maybe 880 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: showcasing boy mcdonvicher is saying that you've got to sweeten 881 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 4: the pot a little bit. It may benefit a team 882 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 4: like the Rockets if the Pistons aren't pulling the trigger 883 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 4: on the deal. Eric Gordon's next in line to some degree. 884 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: To some degree, he also said, Sham's here, let's get 885 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: to Jay Crowder. He was a part of that three 886 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: team deal. The Hawks and Heat are also interested in 887 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: Jay Crowder, and Miami is expected to uh have a 888 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: re energized pursuit because a lot of their players like 889 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: Deadman and old People are available to be traded starting 890 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: Thursday on December fifteenth, where like ninety percent of the 891 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, the league of guys that signed are going 892 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: to be able to be moved. So the Hawks and 893 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: Heat interested in Jay Crowder. 894 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: I love the heat going back and getting their old bud, 895 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 4: Jay Crowder back, who helped them get to an NBA finals. Yeah, 896 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: it's like the Lakers we just talked about could use 897 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 4: their shooters back, bring back Kus, bring back Kenatavias, Caldwell, Pope. 898 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 4: He would help a lot. So, uh, it makes sense. 899 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 4: It makes sense on both teams. Really, the Hawks could 900 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 4: use him, although I'm intrigued a little bit more by 901 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 4: the next name we're going to get to with the 902 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 4: Atlanta Hawks and Kyle Kuzma, just because it's so so 903 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: rich in potential drama that it just it's just the 904 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: higher ceiling with Kuzma, no doubt. But also I don't know, 905 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 4: I don't know if that could work with the Atlanta Hawks. 906 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: J Crowder would be a steady Freddy. I just I 907 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 4: don't know what the Hawks give up. Is it somebody 908 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: you know young down the depth chart for Jay Crowder 909 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: John Collins is a little too much, but you know, 910 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 4: somebody like a Jalen Johnson or something to get the 911 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 4: money working there. It would make sense for both teams though, 912 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 4: And Crowder has to be traded. 913 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Right think he would be I mean, not play. I 914 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: wonder if Jaye Crowder is gonna have like a what 915 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: worked for Al Horford taking off that OKC here and 916 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: suddenly was like, oh, looking young and spry again. I 917 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: mean Crowder's on the older side. I think he's thirty two. 918 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: He's not a spring chicken, so this could help him 919 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: not playing here whatever team he ends up on, and 920 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: give you something for a playoff push or even in 921 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: the postseason. Any thoughts on Crowder a name that's being 922 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: thrown around all the time. 923 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: He's gonna be on the Heat of the Bucks, one 924 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: of the two. Yeah, he's him and PJ. 925 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 4: Tucker. 926 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: They just make the same decisions over and over pretty much, right, 927 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: They're like the same guy. You're like big wing kin 928 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: guard three four maybe five in a pinch, not as 929 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 2: good of a shooter as you would be led to believe, 930 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: but willing to shoot it sometimes, and a tough. 931 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 3: Guy who helps out with the culture. 932 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: He's obviously got the past with the Heat, which I 933 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 2: think matters, and the Bucks have been interested in him 934 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: basically since since PJ. Tucker left Milwaukee, so I think 935 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: he'll be on one of those two teams. The Heat, though, 936 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 2: can get the thirty million in salary if they include 937 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson, Dwayne Deadman, and Victor Oladipo. They also have 938 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 2: picks that they could trade, like they could trade their 939 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: draft pick this year, they could trade twenty seven if 940 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 2: they wanted. But who wants Duncan, Dwayne and Victor anybody? 941 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: Thirty million dollars for those three. That's a lot of money. 942 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: So that'll be a question if you can trick somebody 943 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: into taking those, Yeah, because otherwise they don't have. 944 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 3: A lot to trade. 945 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: No, no, they don't. Let's go to John Collins. So 946 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: hot right now? Still so hot, John Collins trade rooms. 947 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: He's not even player, he's injured. But Sean says the 948 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: Hawks of that several teams in the John's John Collins market, 949 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: such as Utah, Washington, Brooklyn, and Dallas four teams for 950 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: John Collins. Of those four, is the one you like 951 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: more than the others where you're like, Okay, let's make 952 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: this happen. There's something there that could really use John Collins. 953 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 4: Listen, uh, the Kuzma for John Collins deal that Sean 954 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 4: Strana said that the Hawks have some interest in Kyle Kuzma. 955 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: I love it, but there doesn't appear to be traction 956 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: on a potential framework. Also said John's this Cou's John Collins, 957 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: But you love it. 958 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 4: Well, it's risky for sure because Kuzma, de Jontay Murray 959 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 4: and Trey Young in that locker room. I'm just not 960 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 4: sure if it if it creates a winning locker room. 961 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 4: I'm just not sure. It's it's just a mix. It's 962 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 4: a mix of guys that may not work. It just 963 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: feels like they'd be bad to the phone. Yea. 964 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: Also, Kuzma is going to be for a payday here. 965 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: He is apparently twenty million dollars. 966 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 4: He absolutely is, and that's why it is very risky. 967 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 4: Jay Crowder far less risk He knows his role. He 968 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 4: just comes in there, khuz wants to shoot baby, and 969 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 4: he's shooting and the Wizards are losing. But the he's 970 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 4: just at this point of his career where, yeah, he 971 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 4: wants to get paid again. He would fit the John 972 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: Collins roll pretty well because he's a three point shooter, 973 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: allowing the lane to be opened for Jeantay Murray as 974 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 4: I bang my can there and Trey Young. So he fits. 975 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 4: He's he's willing to take every shot that is available 976 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 4: to him. So I just like the drama part, and 977 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 4: I think I'll just talk about John Collins going places. 978 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 4: And even for Jay crowd you guys want something back, 979 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, a decent part back. I think for John Collins, 980 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 4: not just Jay Crowder, a young good part because John 981 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 4: Collins could be a twenty ten guy in this league, 982 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 4: and Kuzma kind of fits that. Kuzma, I think is 983 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: at the peak of his powers right now. He is 984 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 4: beloved by everyone. He's shooting seventeen times a game, and 985 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 4: he's a complimentary piece. But I think right now his 986 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 4: trade value couldn't be any higher. His rep right now 987 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 4: cannot be any higher in his late twenties. This is it. Yeah, 988 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 4: so the Wizards should cash right now. 989 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: I think Kuzma's almost entered the like Harrison Barnes, Tobias 990 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: Harris like level of a good player could score, not 991 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: gonna kill you on the other end, But like, is 992 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: he a two? Like is he our second best player? Now? 993 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: Is he our third best player? 994 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 3: Actually? 995 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: If he could be our fourth best player, that we're 996 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: very happy. But how much are we going to have 997 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: to pay him? That's where I'm like seeing Kuzma's like 998 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: career going here, not a bad spot to be. 999 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of money because he is 1000 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: my number one trade target for every team. Okay, because literally, 1001 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: who doesn't need size, rebounding, shooting, defensive no how and 1002 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 2: championship petick. 1003 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the perfect mix. He's making thirteen. 1004 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: Million dollars this year, which is why Washington is going 1005 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: to be looking for a juicy pick. They will not 1006 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 2: be able to get a great player back because the 1007 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: salary is so low, but they could get a decent 1008 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 2: pick for kus. I think Washington is not interested in 1009 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 2: this deal with the Hawks because they probably don't want 1010 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: to pay John Collins twenty five million a year for 1011 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 2: the next five seasons. 1012 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: If they were going to do that, they would just 1013 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 3: keep Kuzma. 1014 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 2: You'll pay him, so I wouldn't mind see him on 1015 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Dallas. The trades are kind of tough to 1016 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 2: get him there, But like Collins would be perfect for Brooklyn. 1017 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: Just catch and shoot. Guy, plays defense, hits the glass, 1018 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 2: which I think is something that Brooklyn certainly needs. And 1019 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 2: he would be like a super Maxi Kleba for Dallas. 1020 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 2: Basically can play a little bit of defense, has athleticism, 1021 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: can roll, can shoot threes, can hit the glass. But man, 1022 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 2: I thought it was so funny when Chandler Parsons was 1023 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: calling out Kyle Kuzma earlier this week. He's like, this 1024 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 2: guy thinks he's a star. Never be a number one 1025 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 2: or number two option, but he's gonna get paid. Dude, 1026 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: Kyle Kuzma is Chandler Parsons. I didn't ever realize that. 1027 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 1028 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: I love Chandler Parsons when he was good. They even 1029 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: both have six spin moves. That's perfect. 1030 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: Eric Pinkas Bleacher Report said, Kuzma is a flight risk 1031 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: here in Washington too because of free agency, and he 1032 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: is the type of player that maybe rebuilding teams would 1033 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: cover it there in free agency. Again, if you look 1034 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: at the class coming up, Kuzma easily is probably like 1035 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: a top ten player in the twenty three free agency class. 1036 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: And looking like I said, at twenty million dollars, he 1037 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: probably wants to play for contender. Maybe just wants to paycheck. 1038 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: Who knows. Kuzma is believed to still be on the 1039 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings radar, so they did have interest in him 1040 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: once upon a time. The Lakers, Sons and Nicks also 1041 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: interested in Kus So I do think especially with the 1042 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: Wizards now just like looking like the Wizards of old. Yeah, 1043 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: getting back to the bottom of the Eastern Conference standings. 1044 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: They would be silly not to get something in return, 1045 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: because otherwise I can't imagine he's staying with the Washington Wizards. 1046 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: So get something, move off them and get any sort 1047 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: of pick, any sort of young player, whatever it is, 1048 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: instead of losing him for nothing. So I think he, 1049 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: I agree, will be moved, and I think he wants to. 1050 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kuzmin. I guess my gut just 1051 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: says he wants to be moved, but maybe not. It's 1052 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: getting numbers in Washington. The only final note I have 1053 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: here the Magic and Spurs potential fire sales with some 1054 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: of their guys, Gary Harris, Terrence Ross, Mobamba. With the Magic, 1055 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: they're always in the. 1056 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 3: Maor Terrence Ross are available again. 1057 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: The Spurs yaka Pearl, Josh Richardson, Doug McDermott, these are 1058 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: all They're all decent players, and I can't imagine it 1059 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: would take too much. Maybe Purdle a bit little bit 1060 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: more for sure, but the rest of them they could 1061 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: be had right. 1062 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 3: Available. 1063 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they're always available. Yeah. 1064 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 4: The Magic kind of trade a center they have. They 1065 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 4: have so much height, would they trade Mobamba. I just 1066 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 4: want to see them roll out five centers. I know 1067 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 4: they're kind of they kind of throw out a guard 1068 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 4: with all these centers, but they've got bowl Bull, Mobama, Wagner, 1069 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 4: another Mouh Bancero, Wendell Carter Junior, probably their steadiest center. 1070 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,439 Speaker 4: They're so big they should trade a center or two, 1071 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: and they might. They might. 1072 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 3: Bomba is a guy who had. 1073 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: A little thirty bit of free agency buzz over the 1074 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 2: summer and then he instantly re signed with Orlando. 1075 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 3: So maybe they're thinking, yeah, if he. 1076 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 2: Comes out and shows you the thirty eight shooter again 1077 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: like he's doing, maybe somebody will be interested. 1078 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: I think I think the Blazers would be a nice 1079 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: spot for Obamba as a backup big. I think they 1080 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: could use a little more like. 1081 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: Drew some day. 1082 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: He's fine, but you know, I think he would fit there, 1083 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: And obviously you wouldn't be asking him to do a ton. 1084 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: So somebody get on the trade machine, get a get 1085 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: a Blazer's magic Mobamba to Portland deal going for me 1086 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: because I'm not doing it. Yeah, we'll see. I mean 1087 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,479 Speaker 1: a lot of these names just the same old names 1088 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot. Let's just get to it. Already, fifteenth is 1089 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: almost here, and then these trades actually happened, so hopefully 1090 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: they're like all lined up, and some of these guys 1091 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: I can't trade them till the fifteenth. All right, now 1092 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: we're good to go. Let's go and on Friday show 1093 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: boom boom boom, trade Trade, Trade Emergency podcast after emergency podcast, 1094 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: because that's all we want. Everybody just wants trades. Throw 1095 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: some thumbs on it. What's your grade? Who's the winner, 1096 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: who's the loser? Doesn't matter at all? Probably not. Do 1097 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: you really believe in a second round draft pick? I 1098 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: don't know. Shut up. All right, let's take our last 1099 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: break and when we come back, picking results and task 1100 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: is a really good tweet of the night. Don't go anywhere. 1101 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: All right, back here in the Classic Factory. Got some 1102 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 1: breaking news. The Webby Awards just named the best sports 1103 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: podcast after No Dunks. 1104 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 6: Wow, you thought I was gonna say we won the 1105 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 6: web Yard. 1106 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: But. 1107 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 4: Well said after No Dunks. So my mind went to 1108 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 4: we won it last? 1109 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: Did we? Was that two years ago? 1110 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 4: I guess it was a couple of years ago. So 1111 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 4: after meaning this year, just start. 1112 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: Following what the NBA is doing renaming all their awards 1113 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: after the best of the best. So I guess the 1114 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: Rebby Awards Best Sports Podcast will now be called the 1115 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: No Dunks Best Sports Podcast. I don't know if we're 1116 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: still eligible. 1117 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like we're not podcasting anymore, Like we're retired, 1118 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 4: like all these Georgian Yeah. 1119 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: True, good point, good, good point? Okay, pick of results. 1120 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: Last night, we had that Nets Wizards game Brooklyn favored 1121 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: by five and a half on the road, and they 1122 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: covered it, took care of business. That's a win for 1123 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: me and Trey improves our record to four and four 1124 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: in the month of December, and Tasts had the wiz 1125 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: thought they'd at least covered close for a bit, but uh, 1126 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: Nets pulled away. So you're five and three. We had 1127 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: nice little race going here. What's our game tonight? 1128 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 4: Five game night in the Association? Big ones on t Yeah, 1129 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 4: Golden State visiting Milwaukee is the one that we're going 1130 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 4: to focus on. Oh hello, the Bucks at home are 1131 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 4: four and a half point favorite. So if you're taking 1132 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 4: the Bucks, like your tray er skeets, you want a 1133 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 4: five point victory, no points to play with. While I 1134 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 4: have four points to play with as a picker of 1135 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 4: the Golden State Warriors going into Melbourne. 1136 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the line was a little big, but 1137 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 1: then again, the Warriors stink on the road. I guess 1138 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: they're taking that into consideration. And the Bucks are obviously 1139 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: pretty damn dominant TNT game. This is so what we 1140 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: got inside here tonight. They are on Tuesdays now. 1141 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 4: Just change that. See, okay, here's here's a bat. 1142 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: Can you bet on this? Shaquille O'Neal thrown into a 1143 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: Christmas tree tonight? Do they run it back a week later? 1144 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: They did it twice in one night last week, and 1145 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: do they do it again? Or oh, you know what, 1146 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: I'll open it up to anybody. Maybe a chuck gets 1147 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: throwing it. I don't know. Probably shack though, But. 1148 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 4: What do you bet? Yeah, sure, I'll take the field 1149 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 4: shack way. They're not going to repeat it. I'll make 1150 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 4: you a bet. I'll take the field you take, Shaquille. 1151 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: Okay, what do you want to put? 1152 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 4: What happened? 1153 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: Glass? Egg nog? 1154 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 3: A glass of nog is on the line. 1155 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 4: Who's the loser? Who has to drink? 1156 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 3: All right? 1157 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: You got the field? I got shocked somebody. 1158 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 4: When you gets to pick who has the nog. Okay, 1159 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 4: I got I gotta get to a farm. I've been 1160 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 4: telling myself, I'm going to get to a local Georgia 1161 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 4: farm to get some fresh nods. It's gotta happen. Okay, 1162 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 4: I gonna milk a cow today, make some nog. 1163 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get an egg from a chicken. You need it, right, 1164 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:50,959 Speaker 3: you need. 1165 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 4: Them. 1166 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 3: It's a custard. 1167 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: Let's get your tweeted the night. 1168 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 4: Yeah now you wow? Yeah, maybe let's go to Brewsters 1169 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 4: or to Illinois anyway, I get some custard either way, 1170 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 4: dandy of a tweet. 1171 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 1172 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 4: Let's flash back to flash forward two thousand and two. 1173 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 4: Carmelo Anthony and Lebron James played against each other in 1174 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 4: a high school basketball game. Wow, twenty plus years ago. 1175 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 4: Let's flash forward twenty twenty two. Their sons played each 1176 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 4: other in a basketball game. Two have brought and sons, 1177 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 4: Bronni and Bryce. That's Bryce on the left if you're 1178 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 4: with us on YouTube, Bronni in the middle and mellow 1179 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 4: Son on the other team. Kaya and Anthony. This is wild. 1180 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 3: Look at this? 1181 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: Who shut shuts? 1182 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 3: Shorts have changed along twenty years? 1183 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's cool. This is amazing. 1184 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 4: It is amazing. And then let's let's get some game footage, 1185 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 4: some high school game foot Okay, let's break it down. Yeah, 1186 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 4: because in two thousand and two, Lebron threw down a dunk, 1187 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 4: and then Bronni in this game yesterday, threw down dunk 1188 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 4: with Lebron on the sideline, and Rob Lopez edited this 1189 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 4: together and Lebron being a real dad, real coach, getting 1190 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 4: up saying, get back there, get back on defense. He 1191 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 4: was pumped for his son to throw down to dunk. 1192 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, split screen, h Saint Vincent, Saint Mary, Lebron 1193 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 4: thrown down to dunk. Now, it wasn't was it was 1194 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 4: a lot earlier in the year. Anyways, it doesn't matter. 1195 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 4: The point is, twenty years apart, son's playing Lebron mellow 1196 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 4: on the sideline. We're not gonna go through the stat lines. 1197 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 4: We're not gonna we're not gonna parse the game or anything. 1198 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: Nah nah, that's an you know. 1199 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: Will all three of them be in the NBA? 1200 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1201 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: Let's put some egg nog on it. I'll say, no, 1202 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: I got a lot of egg dug. That's going. 1203 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 4: That's tough. Yeah, you're gonna keep tracking that for years 1204 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 4: because they're not draft eligible for a long time. Twenty 1205 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 4: twenty four for Brianni, later for Bryce, I don't know. 1206 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 3: Six maybe is he like two years younger or something like. 1207 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 4: That, right, Kai, And I'm not even sure. 1208 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I've seen footage of him. Yeah, he's obviously talented. 1209 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: Great jeans, very good, very good pants. All right. Elvis 1210 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: says they're all going to be in the NBA. So 1211 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: looks like I'm drinking this now. 1212 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 3: I think at least summer league preseason they'll they'll all 1213 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 3: have a taste. 1214 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, the summer league doesn't count though, Sorry, the 1215 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: handshake is already. 1216 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: Oh. I wanted to be officially on their Basketball reference page. 1217 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, they got to get a 1218 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 2: Basketball Reference entry. 1219 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,479 Speaker 1: Okay. 1220 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 3: I like that. 1221 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh this is a hot take nine three seven. 1222 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 1: Lebron is better than his sons out. 1223 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 3: These hot takes. 1224 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, great tweet there, and I like that little split 1225 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: footage there. Yeah, from a rebelicus. 1226 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't follow the high school game, 1227 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 4: but Brian, he was just joined by Bryce this year. 1228 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 4: That was high school because Broni's been there. 1229 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 3: For a few years's been around for a few years. 1230 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,439 Speaker 4: Sierra Sierra. What's it called Serra Canyon? I always forget 1231 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 4: the second part can but Bryce I think just joined 1232 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 4: that makes sense. 1233 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 2: He had like a massive growth spurt. I think he's 1234 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 2: taller than Brownie is now. 1235 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, which would make sense freshman and junior and then 1236 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 4: a senior next year for Bronnie before lebron says you 1237 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 4: draft him and you got me in twenty twenty four 1238 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 4: or whatever happens. I don't know, but I feel weird 1239 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 4: talking about high school sports. I'm not a real American. 1240 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 4: I don't I don't really I don't really dive in. 1241 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 4: I don't travel around Georgia look at the next football prospect. 1242 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: You don't head out on Friday night go check out 1243 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. 1244 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 3: I am. 1245 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 4: I kind of want to do that. 1246 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 3: I want to. 1247 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at the offensive sending the bleachers with 1248 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 4: my binoculars. Look at that right tackle, Look at look 1249 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 4: at the footspeed on that right tackle. 1250 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: So you're in the South man, I know football? 1251 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: Have you ever? 1252 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: I could not care less. There's no way I would 1253 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: go check it out. Good on them. If you're into it, 1254 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: I get it. Especially it's like not in Atlanta, if 1255 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if I was in the boonie somewhere in 1256 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: South Georgia where that's all that's going on. Yeah, I 1257 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: guess I would go down to a game. 1258 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 3: We used to do it. What are you doing tonight? 1259 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 3: What are you doing Friday night? 1260 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 4: Man? You probably watching back? 1261 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: You might watch Bullet Train again, JD. Right movie, it's great, right, yeah. 1262 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: The worst thing about Bullet Train is the trailer. Who 1263 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: made the trailer they should be fired. 1264 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, it was terrible. 1265 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: It didn't you know people are like this looks dumb, 1266 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: or like what is this about? It's a fun it's 1267 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: a fun movie. 1268 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 3: Fun watch this guy's too busy? High school football? Watch 1269 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 3: you see every television show, watch movies. School for you. 1270 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 4: You're telling me when Gris's kids are playing football, you're 1271 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 4: not gonna be. 1272 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I have to know somebody in the game. That's okay, 1273 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: that's okay, Okay, that's different. That's interesting. I thought at 1274 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: that part, not knowing anyone, that. 1275 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 3: Feels we. 1276 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Take into high school kids. 1277 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 4: I don't. I didn't even know who was playing. It 1278 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 4: was a Sunday tournament, but I guess it was high schoolers. 1279 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 4: It could have been middle schoolers down at the Old Grady. 1280 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 4: A great event. 1281 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Like their stadiums are like, I mean, like 1282 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 1: they're smaller, but they're like, holy crap, they're nice. 1283 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 4: It's nice to just put my butt on cold concrete. 1284 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 4: You know. 1285 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Hey, when I were growing up in southern Ontario, the 1286 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Friday the Friday night version of the football game in 1287 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the South was the you know, Junior B hockey game, 1288 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, the local hockey game for your like lower 1289 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: level team. So we had. They were then called the 1290 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Strafford Cultants, and now they're called hockey the heck are 1291 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: they called now changed? Ye? 1292 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? 1293 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: What are they called? The Warriors? Called Strafford Warriors? 1294 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 3: Right? 1295 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 4: Right? 1296 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 1: Right? 1297 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,919 Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say that Friday nights 1298 01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 4: were for theater. 1299 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, you were going you would go catch a play, yes, 1300 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: go see King Lear and then head over to All 1301 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: min Arena to see the Coulton's at the time play 1302 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the Kitchen or Rangers. Yeah. Yeah, it's an interesting city, right, 1303 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: blue collar, white collar Sydney, all wrapped up in one. 1304 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 3: No collar freaks. 1305 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they let their dogs off the leash, no collars 1306 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 4: on those dogs and it's ridiculous. Put your dog on 1307 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 4: a leash. 1308 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: It's fine. You know when you went back to uh 1309 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: back in the day, going to a hockey game junior 1310 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: b any level, I guess really, no nets, keep your 1311 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: head on a swivel. 1312 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 3: No nets, multiple time. 1313 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no nets. 1314 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 4: Protective hockey. 1315 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1316 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Just a couple of tusk are you actually? 1317 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Strafford hockey games were decided by your best soliloquy from 1318 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 1: a play. You would come to ceter ice, do your 1319 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: your best hamlet. They wouldn't drop the gloves. They dropped 1320 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: the pros. 1321 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 3: We're going monologue. 1322 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm at the I'm at the netting man because like 1323 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: multiple times I was at a Collies game and someone 1324 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: would get like you know, a kid or anyone who 1325 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: would get, you know, a puck to the face and 1326 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: it was quite dangerous. Those things flying up there. The 1327 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: face is dangerous. So I always remember my mom would 1328 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: say before I left the house, you keep your eye 1329 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: on the ice, keeps being Yeah, I don't be talking 1330 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: your friends NonStop when the action's going. You never know 1331 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: when that book's going up. 1332 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy. No, you should have no one sitting behind 1333 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 4: the nets. That sounds super dangerous. Maybe it was just maybe. 1334 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: It was just behind the net and then it was. 1335 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 4: They fly back. 1336 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah. 1337 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 4: It must have had plexi glass, like the you know 1338 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 4: the glass. 1339 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: They had the glass. 1340 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm talking like it was you could see a hockey. 1341 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: You know you're sitting in now it's everywhere, is it really? 1342 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Well? 1343 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the way around. I mean it's like a 1344 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: lot more. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Cell phones that cell phones, 1345 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: that cell phones. 1346 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm not watching the lin. Manuel Miranda's got to come 1347 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 4: out with a hockey game where you battle have a 1348 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 4: soliloquy hat center ice. 1349 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 3: It's his next music exactly. 1350 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: A good idea. Make make slap shot the seventies hockey movies. 1351 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 4: I can't believe that hasn't been done. 1352 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 3: You're not giving away my slap shot? 1353 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: How was that co remade remake movie? 1354 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 4: There is a slap shot Exports or something. 1355 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: There is the Handsome Brothers. 1356 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 3: I think it's they made that movie Goon. 1357 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's. 1358 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: To quote William Shakespeare. Keep your eye on the ice, 1359 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: c W. E. Crocker, great comment. Hey remember when this 1360 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be an hour long podcast? Oh we had 1361 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: some larks at the end, shout out to Ed Olinic, 1362 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: Rob Blake all chick rod. 1363 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 4: Oldchick ed ed ed old Check. You said Kelly Olynicx 1364 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 4: brother's name. That's not his ed old Check legend. 1365 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 3: Rod Brenda Moore. 1366 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. That's a hockey player. Ripped Tabati man. 1367 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 2: Don't make me say John van Beats say I got man. 1368 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 4: Darren Poopa loves pooping ghos. Okay, let's a man named 1369 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 4: Darren Poopa in the NHL. 1370 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: We say it every time we talk. 1371 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 3: Come on, it's bears. 1372 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to actually name like junior bee players 1373 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: ever called probably played junior They all. 1374 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 4: Played Rod brandamor Ron Francis maybe. 1375 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Of course Promer, Yeah, I know that. 1376 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 4: What do you think he's too big to be from Ontario? 1377 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,760 Speaker 1: They grow big man. 1378 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 3: There's no you know, literally anything great defenseman, oh yeah, 1379 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,200 Speaker 3: one of the best defenceman I think. 1380 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 4: About Tidy sure that. 1381 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if they played in the Junior b 1382 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Rank London Knights or not or the Elmira sugar Kings, 1383 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Clipper Broos, have a great time turn up. 1384 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome. 1385 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember I think they played 1386 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 4: for the Sugarland Skeeters' Sport. 1387 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: They're no longer called that, as I once told you, 1388 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: just like the Cullies. 1389 01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 4: Thanks change. What do they call now the Sugarland mcgrady's Gray. 1390 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Something something space comments or something something about the space 1391 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 1: because embrace Tody people 1392 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 4: You see space comment, I don't know, something like that.