1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonas is Sam your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: We have some great stories coming up, but before that, 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: we have a quick two minute break from the sponsors 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: that keep the show alive. 6 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: My girlfriend cheated on me with another woman and tried 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: to blame me for it. That's some backwards logend Okay, 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 3: little backstory. I'm twenty two and my girlfriend her we'll 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: call her Jess, and I have been in a relationship 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: for nearly eighteen months. She's very attractive and in all honesty, 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: I couldn't say that I'm a lost cause, but I'm 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: certainly dating on my league. By the way, this comes 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: from Jackson twenty thirteen three and if you want to 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: Storytime Separate it and I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we're 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: here to give good advice. Goofily, But we don't have 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: all the answers. We just know what we would do 18 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: in this situation, so let us know what you would 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 3: do in the comments, so op seys. Anyway, last week 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: we were at an exhibition function for our shared university course. 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: It was a fairly normal evening up until I saw 22 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: her talking to this girl from the other side of 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: the hall. Nothing unusual, I just didn't recognize. However, when 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: they turned around, I noticed the mystery girl had her 25 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: hands seriously low on my girlfriend's back. I didn't think 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: much of it at the time, but they were completely 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: inseparable for the entire evening. The next week or so, 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: we were usually distant from each other. I wanted to 29 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: make sure nothing was wrong before I went away. I 30 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: was going to Bristol for the weekend and I didn't 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: want to leave things on bad terms before I left. 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: But she was having none of it, just being really 33 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: blunt and such. So I left for my parents, who 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: were giving me a lift to Bristol. But when I 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: got there, Mom said the old man was ill and 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: we wouldn't be going at least not today. So already 37 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: angry that she didn't tell me this over the phone, 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: I drove back to ours in a foul mood, and 39 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: that's when I caught her. The front door was off 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: the latch for some reason, so I didn't need my key. 41 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: I came in the door normally, but kind of stopped 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: when I heard what sounded like Jess Giggly. We live 43 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: in a ground floor flat, so there are no floorboards 44 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: to creak. As I got closer, I could hear someone, 45 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: clearly a female, sounding quite breathy, like panting. Oh. At 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: this point, I thought Jess might have been having some 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: alone time or something, so I was about to make 48 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: myself known until I looked down and saw a pair 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: of worn pink all stars that I knew were not Jesses. 50 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: At this point, confusion was starting to build, and as 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: I turned the corner, our bedroom door was wide open, 52 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: and there was a girl from the gallery in my 53 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: bed and someone was beneath the covers. 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: What the app is? 55 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: This? 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: I believe was my first reaction. Gallery girl just stared 57 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: at me, shocked. 58 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 5: Yeah. 59 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: As I called to Jess, something strange happened, Absolutely nothing 60 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: at all. She just stayed under the covers and didn't 61 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: move for what felt like the longest time. I just 62 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: stood there, open mouthed, until I finally shook myself into 63 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: action and started to leave. Next thing I know, she 64 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: comes flying out of the door into the hallway of 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: the block, wearing just a pair of knickers in a 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 3: vest for God's sake, trying to somehow make this out 67 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: to be my fault. What I literally I didn't know 68 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: what to say. She's freaking out, and all I could 69 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: come up with was you're not wearing anything. Get back inside. 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: We'll discuss this later. When I got back to the car, 71 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: the belated rage began to set it. I was angry 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: she cheated, Angry she blamed it on me, and angry 73 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 3: that I didn't say something else. Honestly, it's the most ridiculous, 74 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: absurd scenario I've ever found myself in, And perhaps that's 75 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: why that I wasn't so angry initially, But now I'm 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: wondering what to do. I didn't know she was into girls, 77 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: she never mentioned anything like that, and now she's cheated 78 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: on me with one and we're renting a flat together. 79 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: Is this just her experimenting? Can we recover? Has anyone 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: been in this situation before? I'm at my wits and 81 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: here people, Okay, we do have an edit. I'm gonna 82 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: read it really quick. I've just realized how insanely British 83 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: this all is. So lift equals ride, nigger's equals panties, 84 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: best equals tank top, flat Eagles apartment. We do have 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: some relevant comments. Dave Azosier, uh is experimenting her not 86 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: she cheated on you. Now there's two things you can 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: do try and patch it up round the relationship. Skellem says, actually, 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: based on his edit, it more sounds like she used 89 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: him to hide her spicy proclivity. Opie says, yeah. To 90 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: be honest, the more I learned about this, the more 91 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: it sounds like she's way past experimenting and Deleted says, 92 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean she was with another girl. I might be 93 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: able to believe this was an experimenting thing if it 94 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: was the other way around, But most girls don't just 95 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: go from one hundred percent straight to doing that. They 96 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: just don't. Regardless, it's still cheating, Opie says, Honestly, it's 97 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: this kind of thing that has been going around in 98 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: my mind since it happened. She never let on a 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: single hint that she was anything but straight until the 100 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: moment that I found her between another girl's legs. Feels 101 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: like the whole thing we had has just been alive. 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: Another comment says that can you go into a little 103 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: more detail about her absurd reaction? You teased it in 104 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: the title, but trying to make this out to be 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: my fault and really deliver it's like, Uh, you need 106 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: to give the audience some more info there. 107 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: I also wanted that info tho. 108 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Opie says, well, partly absurd because she was wearing 109 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: basically nothing out in the hallway where strangers from other 110 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: flats come and go, and she's historically quite a modest person. 111 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: Worse though, because she said something along the lines of 112 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: you said you were leaving for Bristol, which absolutely flabbergasted me. 113 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: Then the nail in the coffin was what so I 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: get all the blame for this? Yeah you do? Yeah, Like, 115 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: what what do you mean? To which I had no 116 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: appropriate response other than absolute fury. So I took the 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: decision to calmly tell her to go back inside, and 118 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: I left. And we do have an edit. I've read 119 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: nearly all of these comments now, and honestly, you guys 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: are pretty much spot on. I'm afraid I can't go 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: back to her and keep any shred of dignity, especially 122 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: after I found Gallery Girl in her social media earlier 123 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: and messaged her. She admitted it had been going on 124 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: for a while and is desperate for me not to 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: tell anyone, As much as it would be a crappy move, 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm seriously considering outing them both Nope. 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you would revert back at that point to also 128 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: being an a hole. 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. If they were both like already out, then 130 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: like sure you could tell people that they cheated. 131 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: But it doesn't add her out somebody. That could be 132 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: a potentially dangerous situation, that's true. 133 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, knowing her friends, the last thing Jess would want 134 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: is for them to think that she's into girls. I 135 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: know it's petty, but I'm just so bad right now. 136 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: And we do have an update. Do we think he's 137 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: gonna out them or not? She better not because. 138 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: Right now, o pie, you have not been the a 139 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: hole anything, but if you do this, you become one 140 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: in your own way. 141 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're about to lose all your complaining rights. 142 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's crappy still, but doing this won't make her uncrappy. 143 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: It will just make you also crappy. 144 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: Totally. We do have an update. Two days later. I 145 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: had a lot of back and forth texts with the X. 146 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: She's stopped saying she's sorry, instead trying to say that 147 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: I didn't see what I thought I saw, which is hilarious. 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: Here's the best part. She told one of our mutual friends, 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: a girl, that we had split up because she had 150 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: a guy around and I hit the roof and overreacted. 151 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna divulge the full story to anyone, but 152 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: after I heard she had said that I told this 153 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: mutual friend the whole story. Mutual friend didn't believe me, 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: so I showed her the messages between me and the 155 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: gallery girl. Now her friends at least know that she's 156 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 3: a cheat and a liar. Also, I told the landlord 157 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: I'd like to take myself off the lease because this 158 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: has happened and he's looking into it. Hopefully that can 159 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: be resolved in the next week or so. I've also 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: been getting spammed with texts from Jess today saying that 161 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: I'm heartless and I've ruined her life. Oh with the irony, 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: and there are some final comments deleted. Says in response 163 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: to Opie divulging the whole story, You're I suspected once 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: you start lying like she did, all bets are off. 165 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: She compounded an already terrible situation. I don't think she 166 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: thought things through, and Opie responds, yeah, I tried to 167 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: explain this to her overtext. This is completely all her 168 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: own doing. 169 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: She at first. 170 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: Claimed that I didn't see what I know I saw. 171 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: Then she tried to explain that people might think that 172 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 3: I'm making it up up clearly not realizing I'd spoken 173 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: to gallery girl over social media. I showed her the proof, 174 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: but so that I wouldn't out her if she was 175 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: honest about it all. With our friends, she wasn't honest, 176 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: so I told them I really don't know what she 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: thought would happen here, And then their commentor says, I 178 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: can't help, but wonder do you just have to take 179 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: a moment and wonder what kind of person you were dating? 180 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: She just sounds so dumb? Yeah, for real, And Opie says, honestly, 181 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: I know I've painted a picture of an incredibly stupid girl. 182 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: But that's what makes her actions here all the more 183 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: shocking to me, because she really isn't that dumb. I 184 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: have to believe that her getting caught in a seriously 185 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: compromising position is what has led her to act so stupidly, 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: because I found myself completely dumbfounded at some of the 187 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: stuff that she has done or said since I caught 188 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: the two of them. So this is what the ex 189 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: told the friends exactly. I think her implication to the 190 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: mutual friend was that there was just a guy at 191 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: our house and no funny business was going on like 192 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: there actually was with the girl. And that's the end 193 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: of that story. 194 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 6: Okay, my wife cheated for years, but now everyone thinks 195 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: it's my fault. It's not my forty five male wife 196 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 6: forty three female just told me a few hours ago 197 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 6: that fifteen years ago she was having an affair. 198 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 3: Great to reddit. 199 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: We have been married for almost fifteen years and together 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: for nineteen. Tonight we had a game of truth or 201 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: truth on a date at the football game. We agreed 202 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: it would be a chance for anger and consequence, free 203 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: questions and answers that we have never told each other. 204 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from formal Outcome sixty four 205 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: oh four. And if you want to submit your own stories, 206 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: go to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. I'm Carly, 207 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm Anjie, and we're here to give good advice. 208 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Goofully. 209 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: But we don't have all the answers. We only know 210 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: what we would do, So let's say what you would 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 4: do in the comments, and Opie says, after several questions 212 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: both ways, I asked if she had ever been unfaithful, 213 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: fully knowing it would be a no, but yes came 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: out fifteen years ago. She was friends with the guy 215 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: I didn't trust, but she told me he's just a friend. 216 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: Stop being so jealous. 217 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: Besides, he is married. 218 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: I let it go, but asked for him to not 219 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: be invited to our wedding, but she wore me down 220 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 4: on that tomb. So at my wedding, twenty five feet 221 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 4: away from us was the guy she was sleeping with. 222 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 4: I'm in shock and have no one to talk to. 223 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 4: Beyond the humiliation and disrespect. We now have three children 224 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 4: to complicate this thirteen eleven and seven. I always told 225 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: her this was my redline, so she says that's why 226 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: she never told me. She swears it was the only 227 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 4: one time she ever has But how the F can 228 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: I trust someone that would do this to me? I'm 229 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: so effing lost. Update So ten days later now and 230 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: it has gone from bad took crazy. Saturday the eighteenth, 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: at a football game, I got blindsided by an affair 232 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 4: right up to our wedding own almost fifteen years ago. 233 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: After staying out until Sunday, I came home and when 234 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: I asked about it and if there were more, she 235 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: swore up and down now and then she went into 236 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: a panic attack. I had no time to grieve or think. 237 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: I consoled her and brought her off the edge for 238 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: the sake of the kids and family. We talked when 239 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: she calmed down, and I was hoping for a reconciliation 240 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: due to her obvious regret. I again pressed her that 241 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: if it was only the one time, now is the 242 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: time for full transparency. I sent her to her parents 243 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: and spent the day with the children after finding out 244 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: they remained in contact for five months past the wedding. Monday, 245 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 4: she asked to come back and that she really wanted 246 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: to make it work. I threw out my wedding ring, 247 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 4: her dress, and all the pictures gone forever. I agreed 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: to allow her to remain and we talked calmly and affectionately. 249 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 7: She jumped my bones that night and slept soundly. I, however, 250 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: didn't sleep or eat, and curled into the couch to 251 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 7: stare at the wall and cry alone. 252 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: All Tuesday after work, I sent her this link to 253 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: read all the comments, and she had another panic attack. 254 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Once again. I consoled her so that the children didn't 255 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: see her like that. I made supper, did homework, played roadblocks, 256 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: and went to bed. Once the house was quiet, I 257 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: again took the couch. 258 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: Wednesday, Holy fing crap pile day. 259 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: After work, I had come up with a plan to 260 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: get the truth out of her because I knew there 261 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: was more to the story. I told her I had 262 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: booked a local light detector test for the following day 263 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: and if that, if she failed even one answer, it 264 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: would be instant divorce. I knew by her reaction I 265 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: was in for a crap storm. She hadn't been faithful 266 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: for the entire relationship. Her most recent only months ago, 267 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: she had been effing the latest one four to five times, 268 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: so she says, in my truck when she would get 269 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: fake work calls at night in my truck because her 270 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: van and I let her use it until we could 271 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: afford to. 272 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: Fix the van. 273 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: No protection and he was married as well with three kids. 274 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: Ahha. 275 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: I told her to get out of my car and 276 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: drove away to clear my head. She called and texted 277 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: several times for me to come back and talk, and 278 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: I stupidly did. While I was gone, she had a 279 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: panic attack again, but I didn't console her this time. 280 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: I told her to come out to my car. 281 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: I didn't yell. I remained very calm and relentlessly berated 282 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: her and insulted her until she was so panicked she 283 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: puked and flopped out of my car in a pile 284 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: of panic attack. I never laid a hand on her, 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 4: nor even raised my voice while I told her how 286 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: awful and soulis she was, that I hated her to 287 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: her very core. I walked away and told her to 288 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: figure it out herself. I went inside and made supper 289 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: for our kids, ham rice and corn. Little did I 290 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: know that when I texted her to come out, she 291 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: had called my sister and her workmates, leaving the phone 292 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 4: on without my knowledge. Throughout the entire conversation, my sister 293 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: texted my two oldest children and told them not to 294 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: talk to me and to trust her. They were in 295 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: danger and to leave while her dad came and got them. 296 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: I finished making dinner and set the table for four. 297 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: Seeing her dad had picked her up, I called the kids, 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: but only the seven year old came to the table. 299 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: I called my son's phone and heard it ring. I 300 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: saw the text from my sister and knew they had 301 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: taken the kids. I texted her and told her to 302 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: get them back, and she went off, saying she heard 303 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: the whole conversation and that I was harmful and that 304 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: every time we had fought in the past, I must 305 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: have been like that. I called my wife, who was 306 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: now in the hospital with a debilitating panic attack. She 307 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: didn't answer, so I called her dad and he just 308 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: said he was keeping the kids. Not ten minutes later, 309 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: three opp police officers showed up and detained me on 310 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: my porch. Little how my wife had started her period 311 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: and filled the washroom garbage with bloody tampons, and my 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: dog had decided to feast and make a Texas chainsaw 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: scene while I was trying to find the children. 314 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. 315 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: So the police needed to go into the house to 316 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: make sure everyone was fine due to the call from 317 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: my sister stating I was out of control at import 318 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: mental health. When they got to the washroom, they thought 319 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: I must have unalived my wife, and they read me 320 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: my rights and detained me. I frantically called my wife's 321 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: father and her repeatedly at this point. 322 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: All the while I. 323 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: Heard my seven year old ask the officer if he 324 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: would like to play. 325 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: Roadblocks with her. 326 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: Because they were taking me. 327 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: Away from the game. 328 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean, that's. 329 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: What iPad kids had become. 330 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad the kid like seemingly isn't scarred 331 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: from this right now, like I would imagine she would be. 332 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: She's just like, well, dad can't play road roadblocks anymore? 333 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: Is a police officer? 334 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: Do you want to play roadblocks? Yeah? 335 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you can take my dad, but just 336 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: come back and play roadblocks. 337 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just needs someone to play roeblox me. 338 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: I can't pause this. 339 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. 340 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: Finally my wife talked to the police and everything was 341 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: cleared up. I asked them the first thing that came 342 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: to mind when I looked through the window at my beautiful, 343 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: innocent girl laughing and playing. If I was such a 344 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: danger and such a horrible person, why would anyone legitimately 345 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: concern for my children take the eleven and thirteen year 346 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: old but leave the seven year old behind. They warned 347 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: me that this was likely a call to prove something 348 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: untrue at custody hearings in the future. I shook their 349 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: hands and they left. Thursday, my wife and sister came 350 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: to the house for clothes, expecting me to be at work. 351 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: I have my daughter to take care of, and I 352 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: was in no shape for any work related issues. They 353 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: sent my older children into their rooms to pack bags 354 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: and tried to get my youngest to leave. She said 355 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: I'm not leaving daddy's side and refused to go. I 356 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: tried to talk to the other kids, but they were 357 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: ushered away immediately Friday, after threatening to involve a court order, 358 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: my children were returned to me. My wife is staying 359 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: at my sister's, acting like the poor mistreated wife, and 360 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: again I have no time to grieve the life I 361 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: thought I had. I booked Icee immediately and he is great, 362 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: affirming that I am not at fault and in his 363 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 4: fifty years of practice, he has never seen something like this. 364 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: I had a great night of movies, chips, coloring. 365 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: And of course rowblocks. 366 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: My wife called and said she wanted to come home 367 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: now that she is heavily medicated and our son's birthday 368 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 4: is Sunday. I told her she could come over Saturday 369 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: night and stay Sunday. Saturday night rolls around and she 370 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: comes in and says we can take turns a week 371 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: for week staying at my sister's, and I told her 372 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: to think again. I am staying in my home with 373 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 4: what I hope are my children, and she has the 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: legal right to as well. In the unfinished basement on 375 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: our old couch, the children light up as we are 376 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: all in the same house again, and I play nerf 377 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 4: and dress in our Halloween costumes for the night. Sunday, 378 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: we have a great day, me smiling and laughing for 379 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: my son's birthday while crying on the inside. She invites 380 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 4: her father and mother and sister over for the party. Yes, 381 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: the ones who and tried to turn my children on me. 382 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: So I cooked spaghetti sauce all morning, makes upper and 383 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 4: serve everyone like the good little fool with a smile 384 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 4: for my son's sake. I couldn't eat or talk to 385 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 4: these people, so I cleaned and went out from many 386 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: smoke breaks, so many that my fingers are now disgustingly yellow. 387 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: This story has been wild. Yeah, that took a turn. Wow, insanely, 388 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: like all. 389 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: Because this wife was having an insane affair for fifteen years. 390 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, girl, come on, Like I'm just imagining Opie 391 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: thinking about how his life was so seemingly normal and 392 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: great like a week ago, or like two weeks ago, 393 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 3: Like all of this stuff has just blown up. Oh 394 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: my god, it's insane, like I I cause I'm thinking too, 395 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: Like at first, some of the panic attack stuff from 396 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: the wife is like, Okay, a lot of people who 397 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: have messed up in our relationships, they will like freak out. 398 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 3: I mean obviously they probably feel guilty, right maybe, but 399 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: I think them leaning into their emotions and expressing them 400 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: that like aggressively. 401 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: I was worried that it was gonna be like a 402 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: manipulation tactical yeah. Same until she puked from one yeah 403 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: and had to go to the hospital. And then I 404 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: was kind of like, Okay, I didn't really like that 405 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: we like verbally came at her with insults until she puked. 406 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: Sure, but then they came and stole. 407 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 5: Two of your kids, yeah, like your own sisters. 408 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: Like what I was like, uh, Like, I don't know, 409 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: because it's it's like I feel like, yeah, you shouldn't 410 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: have done that, But I also kind of don't blame. 411 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 4: Him, like right, Like I'm like, sure, maybe hindsight, you 412 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: can be like if we couldn't have like an emotion, 413 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: like a toned down emotion conversation, like a calm conversation, 414 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 4: we shouldn't. 415 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: Have had one. 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: Sure, I don't know that that's gonna happen, right, You 417 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: can't control that in the moment you just found out 418 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: that fifteen years were a lie. 419 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, okay, we got a little bit left. 420 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: Everyone leaves finally, and my wife gets into our bed 421 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: like nothing. I am being made out to be a 422 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: monster and I have to take care of everything for 423 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 4: my children's sake. She has done nothing to reconcile and 424 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: is using her mental breakdown from supposed guilt as a crutch. FML. 425 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: Sorry this was so long winded, but I am effing 426 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: exhausted and destroyed on all levels of manhood and humanity. 427 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: But I effing love my children more than myself. So 428 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: for now, until separation papers are signed and the house 429 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: is decided, I keep carrying on. I am going to 430 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: therapy bi weekly, and I'm trying to stay afloat. I 431 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: take responsibility for not being a great husband. I am 432 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: avoidant and very closed, but I am learning. But I 433 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: don't deserve this. I know I am a good man 434 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: and a great father, and that is the end of 435 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: that story. 436 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: My boyfriend admitted that he wants another woman, but still 437 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: expects me to stay with him. Why I've been with 438 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: him for four and a half years. We have two 439 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: kids together now. They are both toddlers, a three year 440 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: old and a two year old boy, and I myself 441 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: have a thirteen year old son. So I left Arizona 442 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: and all my family about a year ago to come 443 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: be with him and give it a go again. Things 444 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: were great at the beginning. Then I started noticing changes. 445 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: About five months in. He started drinking more and smoking 446 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: the Devil's lettuce, like over indulging, by the way, that 447 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: comes from spirited storm seven one six And if you 448 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 449 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: slash Okay storytime, separate it and I'm Angie, I'm Carly, 450 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 3: and we're here to give good advice goofily. But we 451 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We just know what we 452 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: would do in the situation. So let us know what 453 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: you would do in the comments. So oh p says, 454 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: we'll backtrack. Four years ago, I caught him being inappropriate 455 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: messaging one of his exes. They were flirting and had 456 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: and he had deleted the messages, but I saw just 457 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: enough to know what was up. Then down the line 458 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: more he's talking to his baby mama, same thing, being inappropriate, 459 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: living in effing la La land. He always says, it's 460 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: nothing that I'm worried about nothing, and then he usually 461 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: comes around and admits to it being some bs that 462 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: happened when we found out that we were pregnant with 463 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: our first child, our daughter. Now, fast forward to four 464 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: and a half years later, he's working as a maintenance 465 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: man where we live. The place was willing to give 466 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: him an apartment, even though his background is bad because 467 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: of his in and out charges in the system. Mind you, 468 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: we met through the system on a jail bus. Except 469 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: I've completely changed my whole life and myself around, while 470 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: he would be doing good and then fall off, et cetera. 471 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: So we're living here together in this apartment. Things are great. 472 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: Then I noticed changes, and then of course I lose 473 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: my car. So now I am literally a stuck stay 474 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: at home mom, worried about what he may or may 475 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: not be doing. Well, there are these other people that 476 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: live here. I'm thirty one female and he's thirty five male, 477 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: So I don't know what theF he even sees in 478 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: wanting to hang out with them, but he does so. 479 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: Now the guy ends up becoming my fiance's friend. Well, 480 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: when I first met the girl, I didn't like her 481 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 3: from the jump. She carries herself as if any and 482 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: everyone can have her, if that makes sense. Also, she 483 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: has tattoos all over her, which some do look okay, 484 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: but eh. She also dresses very inappropriately. She has two 485 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: little babies as well. So I noticed my husband going 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: over to hang out with them more and more. Well, 487 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: these people aren't any good. They sell substances, party all 488 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: the time, and crab like that. Of course he got 489 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: intrigued and interested. Well, my fiance and her dude start 490 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: becoming closer or whatever. So all of a sudden a 491 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: month ago, this guy's phone breaks, so now he has 492 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: to use her phone to get a hold of my fiance. 493 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure you see where this is going. I don't 494 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 3: ever go through his phone, but I just had this 495 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: weird feeling. So I go through his phone, and sure 496 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: enough I find some crap, except he deleted all the 497 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: messages and the recently deleted so I wait and try 498 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 3: to piece it together more. My fiance is a self 499 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 3: absorbed person. Also, I'm gonna just throw that out there. 500 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: He thinks he never does anything wrong ever, So yes, 501 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: of course I'm upset, except I have nothing really to 502 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: go off of except for a few messages between him 503 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: and her that make absolutely no sense. From the moment 504 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: I met this girl and her boyfriend, I knew they 505 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: were trouble. They're just not any good. Her boyfriend isn't 506 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: such a bad guy, but the fact that he tolerates 507 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: the bs she does is what makes me not trust 508 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: the whole situation. So this last Friday happens, I know 509 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: a little bit, but all I know is that my 510 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: fiance is being sneaky because all I saw were scrambled 511 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: messages that made little to no sense. My God is 512 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: telling me that there is more, otherwise. 513 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: They wouldn't be deleted. 514 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 3: I remember seeing messages between her boyfriend and my fiance 515 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: on her phone, and that's how I know he deleted 516 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: stuff because I remember seeing him in his messages. So 517 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: we get into a big old fight Friday because he 518 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: has the nerve to ask me out of nowhere, why 519 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: do I not like her? And why do I have 520 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: such an issue with her? I told him, I don't know. 521 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: Ask yourself, why why do you think I might not 522 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: like her? So I brought up the messages to him, 523 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 3: of course, and makes up some lame story as to 524 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: why they were talking and why he deleted the messages. 525 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm furious at this point because remember we've gone through 526 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: this before in the past, with him being sneaky and inappropriate. 527 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: So some time goes by through the nights and I 528 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 3: decided to message her myself because I saved her phone 529 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: number off of my fiancee's phone. So I messaged her 530 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: and she asks to call me. She tells me all 531 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: of it, which could be nothing, but in my opinion, 532 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: all of it is inappropriate, and she sends me screenshots. 533 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: But also that's irrelevant because at this point she's only 534 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: gonna send me screenshots of what she told me. Happen, 535 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: get it? Yeah, me too. So I read them all 536 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: and noticed that she was saying crap that she shouldn't 537 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: have been saying as well. I'm disgusted and repulsed by 538 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: the things that he was saying to her. And also 539 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: this happened back at the beginning of March, so she 540 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: knew all this time. Obviously, Supposedly her boyfriend knows too, 541 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: and he's seen the messages too. All of it sounds 542 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: shady and weird to me. I don't trust her, her 543 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: boyfriend or my fiance I feel completely betrayed, humiliated, shattered 544 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: and broken, and now I'm completely stuck. I've been looking 545 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: into family shelters for me and my kids, but they 546 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: are all full at the moment. Then my fiance, of course, 547 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: tries to justify how he didn't do anything wrong, and 548 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: he rereads the messages over and over and decides that 549 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: he didn't say anything that was really that bad on 550 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: in all. We got into a fight the next day 551 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 3: about it, and he came clean and told me, of 552 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: course he wants to effer, of course she's his type, 553 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: and that he isn't attracted to me anymore. 554 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Great. 555 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: He says more bs to me and then blames me 556 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: for what he's done. Then Monday comes around. I'm not 557 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: talking to him at all at this point, so he 558 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: comes out to the parking lot and starts a big scene, 559 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: telling me that I don't even want to fix things. 560 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: I said, I didn't break it, so why should I 561 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: fix it. You're the one who did this, and he 562 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: doesn't see that he did anything wrong. So any advice, 563 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: please be honest, not critical. I know I need to leave, 564 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: but I'm scared too, and I don't know why. 565 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, girl, I can't even be critical of you, because 566 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm just as confused as you are. 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: I think this is like just why gosh, this is 568 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 5: the wildest thing to just like slowly uncover and you 569 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 5: know that you need to get out like you're doing it. 570 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: I think it's totally fair to be scared of personally 571 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: totally like you. I mean, you know, at the worst 572 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: of it, you might be scared of his reaction of 573 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: how he's gonna do, and that's something you know, obviously 574 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: to pay attention to. I think you know, it's also 575 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: very possible that you're just scared to be alone because 576 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, you've been in this relationship for a reason. 577 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: You guys are engaged, you're you want to get married, 578 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 3: like you're probably scared of losing. 579 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: All that and from the sounds of it, not having 580 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 4: a place to go, so having to jump with two 581 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: kids into a shelter like that. 582 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like that's you're in a tough spot. So 583 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: it's totally understandable that you're scared to leave. But I 584 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: think you know the fact that you know that you 585 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: should it is amazing. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, we have some 586 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: comments coming. Number one says, this is a lot of 587 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: drama for a thirty something year old, especially when you 588 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: have children to raise. I'm curious how you came to 589 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: decide to have kids with him before deciding to spend 590 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: the rest of your life with him. Seems like that's 591 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: more permanent than marriage. But I suggest you go to work, 592 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 3: maybe even daycare, so you can bring the kids, start 593 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: being financially responsible for you, and don't put yourself in 594 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: a position where you rely on someone you aren't married too. 595 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: This is too much drama to be a healthy environment 596 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: as a parent. Yeah, I'm assuming that they didn't really 597 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 3: mean to get pregnant and have kids. I mean, if 598 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: they started dating a four and a half years ago 599 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: and they have a three year old, it is kind 600 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: of wild that they have like multiple kids together. But also, 601 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they could all get it. They could all 602 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: be accidents. So that's what I'm assuming. But we do 603 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: have an update eight days later. Okay, okay, update I 604 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: got away. Yeah, me and my kids are safely at 605 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 3: a at a DV shuttle. Oh wow, okay, wow. I'm 606 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: working on getting a job and childcare set up, been 607 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: eventually housing. This will be a good thing for us. 608 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: And that's the end of that story. 609 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: Sam here Og host. We're going to get back to 610 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: these stories, but here's three minutes fads from our sponsors. First, 611 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: our years of friendship were ruined just because of a 612 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: bachelor party, Just because of a party. I thirty female 613 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: wanted to share this story because it's been the bane 614 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: of mine and my close friends summer. It's coming to 615 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: a head soon and thank god, it'll finally be over. 616 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: My partner, Ken thirty mail has been close friends with 617 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 2: Billy thirty mail for about fifteen or twenty years. Ken 618 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: and his other close friends Alan and Will also both thirty, 619 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: were excited to be groomsman for Billy's upcoming wedding. The 620 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: best man, Tate thirty male, was part of this friend 621 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: group until a few years ago when he was banned 622 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 2: from Alan's house. That's by the way. This comes from 623 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: user bpbs twenty twenty three and if you want us 624 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: meet your own stories, go to the r Slashowkay storytime 625 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: suburd it. I'm Dakota. 626 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Keon, and we're here to give you good advice. 627 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: Goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only 628 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: know what we'd do, so if you do something different, 629 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: let us know. In the comments, and Nop says. Ken 630 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: had also noticed Tate constantly bothered women and decided to 631 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: keep his distance. They all keep civil in social situations, 632 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: but Alan and Ken realized there's no need to keep 633 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Tate in their line. A few months before the bachelor party, 634 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: Tate suggested Las Vegas for a weekend. Some groomsmen have 635 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: that kind of disposable income, but over half don't. Being 636 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: in a wedding means some expenses are assumed, but a 637 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: big trip across the country's too much to ask when 638 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: you live in Iowa. Eventually they decided against Vegas, but 639 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: Tate made no other plans. A couple of months later, 640 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: Tate asked everyone if the weekend of May the twenty 641 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: fifth worked. This seemed random, being three months before the wedding, 642 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: but it seemed fine. They found out it was a 643 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: four day Friday through Monday joint bachelor slash bachelorette party 644 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: in Indiana, about five hours away. A couple of weeks 645 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: before the party, after groomsmen were asking what they were 646 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: even doing there and how much money they needed, they 647 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: finally received a loose i tinerary. Friday would be h 648 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: arrival day with dinner Saturday was a joint beach day, 649 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: Sunday was the individual bride groom day, and Monday would 650 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: be the departure day. When the guys thought that party 651 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: was just two days when the guys. When the guys 652 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: thought the party was just two days and one night, 653 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: everyone was okay with this. It's reasonable to ask for 654 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: one night for a bachelor party. However, at least three 655 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: groomsmen found four days difficult due to financial burden and 656 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: stress on family. They told Billy they really wanted to 657 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: celebrate him, but the four day trip was too much. 658 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: They offered to throw him an additional party in town 659 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: so everyone could celebrate and he could have his destination 660 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: party on top of it. Billy quickly nixed that idea 661 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: and said if they weren't going on this trip, they 662 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't be part of the celebration. The three friends worked 663 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: through their budgets and work schedules and family obligations to 664 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: figure out how to make it work. They were all 665 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: able to go for at least three of the days, 666 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: arriving late Saturday, being there all day Sunday, and leaving Monday. 667 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: Ken shared some private information to explain why he wasn't 668 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: comfortable being gone for so long. Billy said he totally 669 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: understood and appreciated they'd all be there. Alan had a 670 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: family wedding to attend during the day on Saturday, which 671 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: had been RSVP too well in advance. Ken and Will 672 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: planned to pick Allan up after the wedding and head 673 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: to Indiana they'd missed the joint day, which they didn't 674 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: care about anyway, and be there for Billy's day. Billy 675 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: okayed this schedule, and the boys were relieved. Then Allan's partner, 676 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: thirty Female, received a message from Billy's fiancee, Kelly. Kelly 677 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: said she knows it's a huge ask, but since Billy's 678 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: increasingly disappointed about his bachelor party weekend, and since Ken 679 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: and Will probably won't be there the full four days, 680 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: would Allan be able to skip the wedding and go 681 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: to the bachelor party instead. Kelly said she doesn't know 682 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: anything about this wedding, but she doesn't like seeing Billy 683 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: so sad. Also don't mention this message to Billy because 684 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: he doesn't know she sent it. Alan's partner was flabbergasted. 685 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: Why would she need to give permission for her adult 686 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: partner to do something also, Billy had agreed to the schedule. 687 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: The family member getting married was on Alan's side, and 688 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: clearly an actual wedding has more weight than a bachelor party. 689 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Alan's partner explained their situation to Kelly, who seemed to 690 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: understand at the time. A few days later, Ken was 691 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: hanging out with Billy during their weekly get together when 692 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: Billy got a call from Tate. He said he'd talked 693 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: to him later and then became distant to text Tate. 694 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: The rest of the night. Ken was charging his phone, 695 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: so he had no idea what was coming. As he 696 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 2: walked to his car, he saw that Will had informed 697 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: the Groomsman group chat about their Saturday night through Monday plan. 698 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: Immediately after that timestamp, Billy had received the call from Tate. 699 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Ken then saw a new group chat between Tate, Ken, Allan, 700 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: and Will. Tate was angry with them for not being 701 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: there to support Billy and that Billy was the glue 702 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: that holds them all together. Ben was very said and 703 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: stated that the schedule was already discussed with Billy, who understood. 704 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: Ken shared his very private reason for not making it 705 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: four days and said Allan and Will shouldn't have to 706 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: divulge their private reasons either. They were all adults and 707 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: don't need to give excuses or explanations for what they 708 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: decide to do. Billy then created a group chat with Alan, Ken, 709 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: and Will, stating he didn't know why any of this 710 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: was happening and why they couldn't just go the whole time. 711 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: This threw everyone for a loop because this had already 712 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: been discussed. Billy said he understood now after talking with 713 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: Tate behind everyone's back, while Ken was right there with him, 714 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: he seems to have totally forgotten the previous conversations. Due 715 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: to this sudden change, Alan and Will spoke with Billy individually, 716 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: divulging their own personal reasons for not being able to attend. 717 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: It came out that Kelly was insisting everyone be there 718 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: for the joint day because of a booze cruise they 719 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 2: had already spent money on. None of the boys cared 720 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: about the joint day. The bachelorette party meant nothing to them. 721 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: They were there for Billy and his bachelor party. The 722 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: discussion Billy had with Alan, Alan shared that his partner 723 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: was pregnant. Billy immediately apologized that it wasn't getting the 724 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: pomp and circumstance that it deserved. But at least it's 725 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: a silver lining with all the chaos. Then, he said, 726 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: if Alan wasn't going to make it to the booz cruise, 727 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 2: he was no longer invited to the bachelor party. 728 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: This is this is ridiculous, dude, You're whack. 729 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: Enjoy your wife, Enjoy your life. I'm done. I'm backing up. 730 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: You're being so. 731 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: Weird, you're being up to Sure, yeah, dude, where is 732 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: this like? Especially when you guys had a previous conversation 733 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: about this, We're like, all right, everything's cool, everything's cool, 734 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: and then like the plan has changed. 735 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: Alan said he understood, but was crushed. Ken tried to 736 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: convince Billy that you can't just uninvite Alan, one of 737 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: his oldest friends, because of a scheduling oversight and an 738 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: inconvenience at a party. Billy said Allan had made his 739 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: own tough decision, and now Billy was making his. Will 740 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: decided to go Friday through Sunday to keep some peace. 741 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 2: Ken wasn't sure if he'd go at all. The thought 742 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: of abandoning Alan was getting to him. He also didn't 743 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: want to leave Will in the lurch, making him travel 744 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: five hours alone. Ken realized if Billy was able to 745 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: hurt Allan, possibly causing irreparable harm over attending a booze cruise, 746 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: Billy wasn't really a friend to any of them. In 747 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: the end, he decided to go with Will Friday through Sunday, 748 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: but only so Will didn't have to go alone. Will 749 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: and Ken had a great road trip together. Once they arrived, 750 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: Billy pretended everything was normal. No apologies for forcing the 751 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 2: guys to divulge private information because he was being pushy 752 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 2: and controlling. No apologies for contradicting himself and throwing a tantrum. 753 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: No apologies for complaining about the situation behind their backs 754 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: while Ken was right there. Nope, just a glad you 755 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 2: two made it. Other than that, they had no cane 756 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 2: night with the grooms men. The following day, they were 757 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 2: told to rush the girl's house to get there on time. 758 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: They didn't have time for breakfast. Will and Ken had 759 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: planned and packed for the beach day with swim shorts, sandals, 760 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: T shirts, and beach towels. The guys were staying at 761 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: an airbnb about fifteen minutes away and the girls were 762 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: staying at a bridesmaid house That's when Will and Ken 763 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: realized the whole reason the bachelor party was happening in 764 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: Indiana was so the girls wouldn't have to pay for lodging. 765 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: Cool for the girls not sure why this had to 766 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: be a joint bachelorette party anyway, none of them had 767 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: met Kelly's friends, and after the wedding they weren't going 768 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 2: to see them again. When they got to the bridesmaid's house, 769 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: no one was there. Tate barged in and then popped 770 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 2: out of a balcony right above the front door and shouted, 771 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: no one's there. The guys were seething. They skipped breakfast 772 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 2: because they were told they had to get there on time. 773 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: Forty minutes later, the girls came up through the backyard, 774 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: which had a path to the beach. They said, oh hey, guys, 775 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: didn't know you were here. All of them were completely baked. 776 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: Everyone gathered in the backyard, which was under a canopy 777 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: of trees, making it ten degrees colder. Then they found 778 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: out they'd all been playing beer Olympics. These are thirty 779 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: year olds, tired adults, not twenty one year olds. They 780 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: all played flip club and and had some fun, but 781 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: when it came to Dizzey Bat. No one was willing 782 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: to put their head on a baseball bat and spin 783 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: until Dizzy no one shotgunned any Bruce kis Ken and 784 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 2: Will didn't even drink anything because they hadn't had breakfast 785 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 2: after the Olympics. They finally got some beach time. They 786 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: were there for about a half an hour and then 787 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: Billy's brother needed the restroom. Ken walked up to the 788 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: house with him. They looked around the kitchen for snacks 789 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: since they were famished, but all that was left were 790 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: empty chip bags. And the time it took them to 791 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: use the restroom and fail to find food, everyone was 792 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: heading back to the house. Ken was sad there was 793 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: nearly no beach for a beach day, but was happy 794 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: to hear they were grilling out. By now, it was 795 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: mid afternoon and the guys were excited to finally eat 796 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 2: one Groomsman made hamburgers. Ken grabbed the last one of 797 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: the first batch. Several people still hadn't gotten a border. 798 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 2: That's when grill Master let them know that was the 799 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 2: last burger period. 800 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 3: Who planned this? 801 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 2: This is the worst? This is the worst? Who planned this? 802 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: Where you're like, mm, we only got we have twenty 803 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: people only have six patties. But I'm not gonna let 804 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: anyone know about grill master messed up. Whoever bought this 805 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff messed up, whoever planned this stuff all messed up. 806 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: This is all messed up. This is not fun anymore. 807 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: Like I get stressed planning and getting ready for the 808 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: bachelor party or what have you partying with everybody, even 809 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: if it's not a bachelor party. This is falling through 810 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: the cracks really badly. I don't know. 811 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: Billy Kelly, the maid of honor and Tate hadn't planned 812 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: enough food for everyone. Ken offered to split his burger, 813 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: but the grill master said there was a pack of 814 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: hot dogs he could make for everyone else. Now much 815 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: happened after this. Will and Ken waited around while the 816 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: girls partied loudly in the house. They were freezing, hungry 817 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: and just waited to go back to the ARABNB. Eventually 818 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: they left to get ready for the booze cruise. Kelly 819 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 2: yelled at the guys that they better look nice after 820 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 2: being miserably cold all day. Will decided to wear his joggers, 821 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 2: a nice button up, short sleeve shirt, and bring his hoodie. 822 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: Will also ordered pizza for the boys. He tried, hinting 823 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: to take that as best man, he should probably get 824 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: food for everyone, especially the groom before a night of drinking. 825 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: He gave up and just ordered it himself. Kelly and 826 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: the bridesmaids barged in shortly after the pizza arrived. Kelly 827 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: judged them and said, oh, you got food. Then they 828 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 2: went straight to the back of the house to shmirk. 829 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: When they came in, they took a bunch of the 830 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: pizza without asking. She didn't even say thank you, so 831 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: Will and Ken only got one slice each. Kelly then 832 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: walked up to Will, looked him up and down, and 833 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: in the snarkiest tone, said will you look nice? With 834 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 2: heavy sarcasm. He said, yeah, I'm warm. The ladies left 835 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: as loudly as they arrived, and Kelly yelled that they 836 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: better not be laid and they better have cash because 837 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: the cruise was cash only. The guys were all under 838 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: the impression that the Booze cruise was already paid for. 839 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 2: Why would they need cash and why were they just 840 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: finding out now? They were a fifteen minute walk from 841 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: the marina. But after trying to gather enough cash and 842 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: failing because it's twenty twenty three, and who has cash. 843 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: They decided to just go by now. They had to 844 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: be there in less than fifteen minutes, so they had 845 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 2: to drive. They also realized they didn't actually know where 846 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: they were going. Billy didn't know the name and said 847 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: Kelly didn't tell him. Luckily, Alan and Will's partners and 848 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: I had done research on Booze cruises in the area 849 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: a week earlier. Ken had it saved and they were 850 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: able to get there on time. They also found out 851 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't cash only. The cruise was happening on Lake Michigan. 852 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: Ken has a phobia of deep dark water. Will has 853 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: a fear of not being able to see the shoreline 854 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 2: while on a boat, and they were going out on 855 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 2: open water at night. Ben was drinking like crazy to 856 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 2: try to calm his nerves, but stayed completely sober as 857 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: he white knuckled through the boat ride. He learned deep 858 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: panic level fear burns through Booze. At one point, the 859 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 2: DJ insisted the bride and groom go to the middle 860 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 2: of the dance floor for Billy to give Kelly a 861 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 2: lap dance. He kind of tried to say he didn't 862 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: want to, but Kelly was there in the chair waiting, 863 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: so he performed. Ken and Will were shocked at this 864 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: severe change in behavior while looking away from the spectacle. Yeah, 865 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 2: Kelly's making him worse. Kelly has turned Billy into a 866 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: stranger a husk. 867 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not Billy, the billy I know would never 868 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: twork on his wife. Yeah that's that's Kelly's partner. 869 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 2: After that, the DJ announced it was Kelly's turn. Tate 870 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 2: was way too into this. Will, Ken, and Billy's brother 871 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: all continued to look away because they really didn't want 872 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 2: to see that. Tate wouldn't stop saying what a hero 873 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: Kelly was. No one was surprised by how Tate reacted, though, 874 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: in addition to constantly demeaning and feeling entitled to women, 875 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 2: he does have a past with Kelly. No one's one 876 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 2: hundred percent sure if Billy's aware of Tate's passed with Kelly, 877 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 2: But during a break in the relationship about eight years ago, 878 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: Kelly at the very least had sent nakey pictures to Tate. 879 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: It just seemed a little odd to be sending noodles 880 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: to one of your recent ex's best friend. 881 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh. 882 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: Also, the kind of guy who would share these pictures 883 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 2: with other members of the friend group. These other members 884 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 2: didn't feel comfortable being shown these I can't imagine Date 885 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: had consent to share those pictures. Perhaps Billy is well 886 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 2: aware and they've worked everything out. I doubt it. It's 887 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: just a strange dynamic. Anyway, that was the mandatory Boo's cruise. 888 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: It was worth uninviting a groomsman and friend of over 889 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: a decade. Apparently, the following day sounds like it would 890 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: have been enjoyable. The groomsmen went to breweries, acts throwing, 891 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: and then a nice dinner. The girls went to a 892 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: tattoo shop to get matching tattoos Kelly designed and coerced 893 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: them to get. 894 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: That's brutal. I'm sorry, that's brutal, girl. 895 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. 896 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, there, anyone's down to do that again, it's your 897 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: own free will, your own choice. But if I'm coerce 898 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: and forced to get a tattoo that someone designed for me, 899 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: that was gotta placed on my body? Big no. 900 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: I heard they looked like line art clip art of 901 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: the Google location pin with either a tree, burger or mountain. Well, 902 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 2: that's the end of the bachelor party. Following this, four 903 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: day three for Kenon will zero for Allan. For this 904 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: four day extravaganza, the wedding is coming up this weekend. Again, 905 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 2: the bridal party will all be staying for free in 906 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 2: one of the bride's family's cabins. Billy, the groomsmen, and 907 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: plus ones had to pay for another Airbnb. Alan's partner 908 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: is very pregnant and had been planning on getting a 909 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: hotel room. Ken and I were also planning on getting 910 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: a hotel room because we both have sensory issues and anxiety. 911 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: Before we could book our rooms, Alan mentioned the idea 912 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: to Billy, who again said he understood. Then Kelly texted 913 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: Alan saying he had better not abandoned Billy again. 914 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like I'm gonna respond, have Billy talk 915 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: to me, not you. 916 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want, I'm no longer carrying a conversation with you. 917 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: By the time I put my foot down and said 918 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: no way, we need our own room for our own sanity, 919 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: the last hotel room for less than five hundred dollars 920 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: was booked and I couldn't find anything else. So this weekend, Ken, Allen, Will, myself, 921 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: and each of their partners, along with Billy and the 922 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 2: rest of the groomsmen will be staying under the same 923 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: roof six hours away in Michigan. Also, neither the bride 924 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: nor groom are from Michigan. Kelly's from Illinoy and Billy's 925 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 2: from Iowa. Another odd tidbit, Billy thought the groomsman would 926 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: be staying with him for a week after the wedding. 927 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 2: He booked the airbnb for a week, thinking he'd be 928 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: spending his honeymoon with his friends. 929 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, get big thing was he thought? He never asked, 930 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: he never said anything. 931 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 8: He thought, who does the friend of vacation on their 932 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 8: honeymoon for a week? Who is going when we were 933 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 8: already struggling to get four days? 934 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: You want? You want seven? After the four? 935 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: The nightmare never ends. 936 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: It's a nightmare that keeps a nightmare. 937 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: Oh. That is the very lengthy story of how a 938 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: bachelor party has ended friendships and caused so much stress 939 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: heading to the wedding tomorrow. Oh, wish us luck and 940 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: there's an update post wedding. 941 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: Man, I'm stressed out. I'm not even there. I don't 942 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 1: want to because the night it's gonna keep her throwing. 943 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: This is much shorter. Lots of complaints on the location, 944 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,959 Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Kelly was incredibly disrespectful 945 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: to the event staff and groom. I witnessed one of 946 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: these moments. My partner witnessed the other. All the events 947 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: were a mess that could have been fixed by simple communication. 948 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: Billy's family missed photos because they were never told about them. 949 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: The bride screamed at the groom that if his effing 950 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: family didn't want any effing photos, she didn't even care. 951 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: The groom ended up trying to contact them, but there 952 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 2: wasn't much cell reception in middle of nowhere Michigan. He 953 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: did get a hold of Allan's partner and took his 954 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 2: anger out on her, heavily pregnant. Allan's partner, Uh huh. 955 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: If I'm Alan, I'm like, honey, go in the car, 956 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,879 Speaker 1: we're heading, we're leaving, and I'm giving him a mouthful. Yeah, 957 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: And I'm giving Kelly two mouthfuls and I'm out. I'm 958 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: gonna take some some of the food from the wedding too. Thanks. 959 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: Don't talk to me. 960 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm given. I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask Billy, what 961 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 2: did the five thing is say in the face? Sap. 962 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 2: She doesn't know Billy's family, So I'm not sure what 963 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 2: we were supposed to do about that after this, I 964 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: think my relationship with Billy is fundamentally brokay. 965 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: I don't know who that's not Billy though Billy's gone, 966 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: Billy's no longer a power ranger. 967 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: And Tate's weird Tate who hooks up with the fiance 968 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 2: maybe and had photos. 969 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: No one knows it was Billy's friend during the wedding 970 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: at least or at some time through all of this. 971 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: A big brother, what are you doing? 972 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have a heart to heart with him 973 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: at some point. If you did not, or I have 974 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: not blink twice. 975 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: If you're happy you're. 976 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 2: Getting screamed at at your own wedding by your wife. 977 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 2: Crazy work, crazy work. 978 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 1: And also I'll be like, brother, work on your communication skills, 979 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: not just with us, but with your wife now. 980 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: The morning of the wedding, Billy stated he needed to 981 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: remind himself he wasn't marrying the Kelly he was seen 982 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: that weekend. He was marrying the Kelly who curls up 983 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 2: in a blanket and watches TV with him. On the 984 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 2: bridesmaid tattoo front, none of them got the designs done 985 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 2: by Kelly. When they got to the tattoo shop, they 986 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 2: decided to do a stock design palm tree for a 987 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: Michigan beach wedding that wasn't actually on a beach, but 988 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: in a mediocre backyard of an inland venue. They had 989 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 2: some photos on the beach of Lake Michigan. They trust 990 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 2: passed on a private beach because the photographer liked it 991 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 2: better than the public beach. But now we are done, 992 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,439 Speaker 2: and it ever have to deal with Billy and Kelly again, 993 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: except for large social gatherings they could be at. And 994 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 2: that is the end of that story. Oh man, hey, 995 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: it's John here. We're gonna get back to the stories. 996 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 2: But I quick three minute ad break from our sponsors 997 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: that keep the show going. 998 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: My best friends left me in another country and blame 999 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: me for ruining the trip. 1000 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: That's on you, dude, A fur real skiz. 1001 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 1: I went on a Jet two holiday in twenty twenty 1002 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: four with seven other girls, all of us eighteen years old. 1003 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: Three of them were my best friend. We'll call them Casey, Cora, 1004 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: and CALLI. Four of them were friends of one of 1005 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: my best friends. We'll call them Sophie, Ava, Delilah, and Paige. 1006 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: By the way. This comes from user Inevitable Friend twenty 1007 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: four to thirty four and if you want to submit 1008 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime, Sebreddit. 1009 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm Keon, I'm Dakota, and we're here to give good 1010 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. Unfortunately, 1011 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: we only know what we do, So let us know 1012 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: what you'd do in the comments, pretty pretty please. Two 1013 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: days of the holiday went by with no issues. We 1014 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: enjoyed the daytime and then we went out at night 1015 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: to clubs. Our hotel was only a ten minute taxi 1016 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: ride from a party town with tons of clubs and bars. 1017 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: On the third night of Christmas, my true love gave 1018 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: to me. We decided to get tickets to an event 1019 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: and go to this party town to one of the 1020 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 1: biggest clubs in Europe. Me, Casey, Kelly, and the rest 1021 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: of the girls were going. Cora stayed at the hotel. 1022 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: We had our pre drinks like normal, but Casey and 1023 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: her friends had bought some shots of absinthe to try 1024 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: for fun, so we all passed around a shot and 1025 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 1: laugh at each other's reactions. It was fun. Then it 1026 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: came to get the taxi probably no longer fun, and 1027 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: I was very wasted. All my friends could tell I 1028 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: was very wasted, and they were telling me as much. 1029 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: They all know I'm quite a lightweight and that I 1030 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: pass out sometimes if I get too wasted, it can 1031 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: last hours. Since I knew this about myself, I always 1032 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: tried my best to drink slowly and ease myself into it. 1033 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: But I think the absence was just a bit too strong. 1034 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: Did we get out of the taxi at the huge 1035 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: club and we go inside? Me, Casey and Sophie go 1036 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: to the bar together and we get drinks. Casey and Sophie, 1037 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: knowing I'm very wasted, walk away while I'm still waiting 1038 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: on my drink to be made, and obviously I then 1039 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: have no idea where they are or where anyone else is. 1040 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 1: At this point, I also realized I left my vape 1041 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: in the taxi and now don't have one. By this 1042 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: time I get my drink, the drunkenness has fully smacked 1043 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: me and I'm gone. I don't remember anything properly after 1044 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: this point. Uh, Since I now have no idea where 1045 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: Eddie and my friends are and don't have the cognitive 1046 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: ability to care, I asked someone in the club where 1047 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: I could get a vape. So again I asked where 1048 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: I could get a vape, and he led me to 1049 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: the shop across the road. So I'm at the shop 1050 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: across the road. I FaceTime my boyfriend, who is back 1051 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: home because I'm alone in the biggest party town I 1052 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: know other than a Ibitha, and I'm chatting to him 1053 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: while I get my vape. I have a video that 1054 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: I sent to him of me with this random guy, 1055 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: and I'm asking him if he's going to the club 1056 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: across the road. Except in the video, I called the 1057 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: club by the name of one of two clubs in 1058 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: the town of our hotel. I forgot we had left 1059 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 1: that town. I forgot where I was completely, even though 1060 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: I was looking at this place with the name in 1061 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: big bold letters. My boyfriend was obviously very concerned, and 1062 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: he tried to get in contact with my friends, who 1063 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: were all still in the club. My friends all had 1064 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: my live location on Life through sixty. He was sure 1065 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: they'd come get me again. I was directly across the 1066 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: street right away, and it would be all good and 1067 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: we'd be reunited for the night. 1068 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 8: Wrong. 1069 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: They didn't want to leave their spawn on the dance floor. 1070 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: They were booging too much. They told him to tell me. 1071 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm completely shmacked out of my brain, no idea where 1072 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: I was to go find them, right in the middle 1073 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: of the dance floor of the third biggest club in Europe. 1074 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: Obviously I wasn't able to do this. I did go 1075 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: back into the club for a bit. I remember speaking 1076 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: to someone in Spanish for a while, and then I 1077 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: don't remember how or why, but I was back outside 1078 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 1: and walking around because obviously I did not find my friends. Basically, 1079 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: to sum up this night, I was walking around Magaliff alone, 1080 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: just wasted, with no idea where I was or where 1081 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: my friends were, in a tiny top and small skirt 1082 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: for five hours. I've been in this situation where I 1083 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of had this, but luckily my friends were there 1084 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: to check out. At least I like a like, this 1085 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: is why you have a system of if you go 1086 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: out in a country and you have no reception or 1087 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: you don't know the location, it's called you have a buddy. 1088 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: It's the buddy system. 1089 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 2: The buddy system at. 1090 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: Least have one person who's like, I got your back, 1091 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: you got my. 1092 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 2: Back, y'all have knowledge of the buddiesys come on in. 1093 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: The fact that this wasn't established, maybe because again you 1094 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: guys are young, but this is a huge thing to 1095 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: do in countries, especially big thing here when you're a woman. 1096 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: You know how scary that is that Like if one 1097 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: of my female friends was doing this, like goes off 1098 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: by yourself, I'm going with you. I don't care. This 1099 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: is Europe taken the movie real thing. It happens a lot, 1100 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: very scary, Like your friends suck, I'm sorry. And the 1101 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: fact that this is not like a blatant thing like 1102 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: I was just walking around at night in like a 1103 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: country all by myself. He who. 1104 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 2: Girl, Yeah, your friends are terrible. Your friends have failed you. 1105 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: Back to the store. My friends didn't leave their club 1106 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: once to try and find me, regardless of my boyfriend 1107 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: calling and texting them persistently because he was worried about 1108 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: my safety. Cali even hung up on him, saying, I 1109 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: need to put my phone back in my bag so 1110 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't lose it. Good luck. He was four and 1111 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: a half hours away by plane. They were five minutes 1112 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 1: away by foot and had my location and she told 1113 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,720 Speaker 1: him good luck. Anyway, They eventually found me walking around 1114 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: sobbing at around six am, five hours later, after Casey 1115 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: and Sophie left me at the bar and instantly all 1116 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: started screaming at me, telling me I ruined their night. Obviously, 1117 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: I did not respond well to this because I was 1118 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: still crunked out of my mind and I had been 1119 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: left to wander alone for again five hours, so I 1120 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: shouted back and argued. Then they booked themselves a taxi 1121 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: back to our hotel, leaving me with Delilah, who was 1122 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: the only person who cared enough to actually wait with 1123 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: me for a second taxi. We got these taxis to 1124 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: the beach where they wanted to go swimming. I went 1125 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: swimming with them while still crunked out wasted. I walked 1126 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: home way behind them in my bare feet and went 1127 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 1: to bed. Woke up the next day with zero memory 1128 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: and walked out of my room to see Casey and 1129 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: Kelly on the sofa. I said hi to them, as usual, 1130 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: but they didn't even lift their heads from their phones 1131 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: to look at me, never mind even respond. I started 1132 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: freaking out hard and went back into my room. We 1133 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: all know the anxiety of waking up after a bad 1134 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 1: night out, but waking up in a foreign country after 1135 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: being crunked out of my mind for six hours and 1136 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: your best friends won't even look at you. That's a 1137 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: new feeling that I never want to experience ever again. Anyway, 1138 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: I went back into my room, got ready, and by 1139 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 1: the time I was back out, all my friends were 1140 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: gone and no one would answer me in the group chat. 1141 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: So I went down to the beach and cried for 1142 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: hours by myself. Naturally, I went back to my room 1143 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: after a long boyfriend pep talk and tried to talk 1144 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: to Casey, asking here if I could apologize, giving my best, 1145 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: heartfelt apology, and she responded with okay, and then left 1146 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: the room. At that point I freaked out eve and 1147 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: more and had to leave the hotel. I walked around 1148 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: for an hour or so, having a panic attack, hyperventilating 1149 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: and sobbing, and I didn't go back to my room 1150 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: until they were all going out for that night. This 1151 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: continued for the next four days of the holiday. 1152 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,399 Speaker 2: Girl, go home. 1153 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 3: These are not your friend. 1154 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: The fact that you're with these six other girls and 1155 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: you're just panic attack and just having a terrible time. 1156 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: This is no longer a holiday, This is a nightmare. 1157 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 2: Well, because you've did something that like everyone has basically 1158 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: done before. 1159 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone gets you littng and. 1160 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 2: You go too hard and then you end up being 1161 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, a nuisance. But that's what friends 1162 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 2: are for. Friends are there to be like, all right, 1163 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 2: little baby bird, nuisance girl, We're gonna wrangle you tonight, 1164 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: and you. 1165 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: Know, maybe the night ends for a couple of people. 1166 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: Do they take you back home? They can go back out. 1167 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 2: They valued a spot on some dance floor more than 1168 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 2: your actually safety. 1169 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: That's an actual human being they valued. And that guess what, 1170 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: eighteen year olds just heartless, hollow. Despite many attempts, no 1171 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: one wanted to give me the time of day to apologize. 1172 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: I spent four of the seven days of our holiday 1173 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 1: completely alone and isolated. I wasn't included in a single 1174 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: plan made, I wasn't invited out, and Casey and CALLI 1175 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: started sleeping in the other hotel room with Casey's friends. 1176 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: I was completely alone and cried pretty much all day 1177 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: every day. Casey and I had shared a suitcase, so 1178 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: when we got home, she said she would take it 1179 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: first and drop my stuff off to me the next day. 1180 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: I was fine with this because I just wanted to 1181 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: get out of there and not wait for the baggage 1182 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: claim BS. I was heartbroken. How could my friends treat 1183 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: me like this? She said she wasn't home that day. 1184 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: The day after, I texted her again and she made 1185 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: up some big excuse. I told her that I needed 1186 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 1: that I needed my stuff and I couldn't really keep 1187 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: going without it, all my makeup and hair products and 1188 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: supper clothing in the middle of summer, and she was outraged. 1189 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: She started arguing with me about that third night and 1190 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: tried to apologize. God she started arguing with me about 1191 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: that third night, and I tried again to apologize, and 1192 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: then tried to get her to see that how they 1193 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: treated me afterwards was a bit excessive and uncalled for. 1194 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: This was apparently her final straw, and she refused to 1195 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 1: text me anymore and instead texted my boyfriend to say 1196 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: she couldn't deal with me anymore. She said he could 1197 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: come pick my stuff up, but that I wasn't allowed 1198 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: to come to her door. My boyfriend hated them all 1199 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: more than me at this point. That night, I got 1200 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: a message from Page, who I saw on snap maps 1201 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: was now at Casey's house. After she said she she 1202 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: said I couldn't get my stuff that night along with 1203 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: everyone else but Calli and Cora. The text was three 1204 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: screenshots worth, a list of things I did wrong on 1205 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: the holiday, and the text underneath. Before you try to 1206 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: say any of it, it was our fault. This is 1207 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: what we had to put up with. It was full 1208 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: of either actual lies or just really hurtful things that 1209 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,439 Speaker 1: I didn't think were anything wrong. 1210 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: These these are you know, I think they're in Europe. J. R. R. 1211 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: Tolkien wrote about orcs. I think these are the inspiration 1212 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 2: behind the orcs. The all these girls slithered out of 1213 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 2: a pool of ooze, because what are you talking about? 1214 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 2: She didn't even hang out with you for four days 1215 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: things you had to deal with the whole trip. You 1216 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 2: abandoned your friend when she needed help, and you could 1217 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,919 Speaker 2: have just arranged for one person to take her back 1218 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 2: to the hotel to go to sleep and then come 1219 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 2: back out. 1220 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: It's it's not hard, you know what, You lose. These people, 1221 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna experience this once in their life. It does happen. 1222 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: It does happen. It's a learning thing. Hopefully, I don't 1223 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: want anyone to experience this, but it does happen in your. 1224 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: Young it does. Its silver lining is that you're very young, 1225 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: and you know what, most of these people are your friends. 1226 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: You don't need to worry about. You will make new friends, 1227 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: You will meet new people yea, and people who actually 1228 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 2: give a crap aboue. 1229 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: But you know it isn't the worst experience of your 1230 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: life fishing up the store. So after spending four days 1231 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: on my holiday completely isolated, having panic attacks every day, 1232 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: and I got home and had my belongings held hostage 1233 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: and got sent a list of things I did it 1234 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: wrong as a consequence of calling out their behavior. I 1235 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: was absolutely devastated, and I can honestly say this is 1236 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: one of the most traumatizing experiences I've been through. This 1237 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: was the summer before starting UNI as well, and it 1238 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: really affected my ability to make friends and trust new people. 1239 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: These girls had been my best friends for seven years 1240 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: and they turned on me like that for making one 1241 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: mistake one night out of our seven day holiday. Anyway, 1242 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: if you stayed this long, am I. 1243 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: The A hole? What are you asking? 1244 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: You're got the A hole for anything. 1245 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Girly Pop