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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the

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Speaker 1: Rough with myself Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Erica Jane without my lashes. I had to

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Speaker 2: tear them off because my allergies.

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Speaker 3: I knew.

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Speaker 1: When I saw a little drip, I was like, yep,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna rip those off.

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Speaker 3: We both did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't take my allergy meds and just doing

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Speaker 2: her out. Yeah. So if you see me with puffy

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Speaker 2: eyes and lashes, it is what it is, y'all.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: So last episode we did a Q and A with me.

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Speaker 1: This episode we're doing a Q and A with Erica.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me have it all right.

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Speaker 1: So the first question is what Broadway show, if you

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Speaker 1: could pick any, would you want to do next?

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Speaker 2: Fuck? Okay, okay, Cabaret. I don't know. Yeah, there's so

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Speaker 2: many I need to look, but that just like pops up.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know that i'd be

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Speaker 2: right for it, do you know what I'm saying? But

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Speaker 2: I think I being on Broadways like a gift.

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Speaker 1: Know what? I think you would be so good at.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's not currently on Broadway, but

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Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite musicals.

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Speaker 3: Which gentlemen prefer blonde?

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, does it get any better than that?

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Speaker 3: Now? Gentlemen prefer blondes? Or what's the one with tits?

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Speaker 3: And chorusline?

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Speaker 2: But myself a fancy pair tightened up the dairy. I

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Speaker 2: love she was great. I love that show. Chorus line

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Speaker 2: was amazing. That's such a good.

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Speaker 1: One because truth it's so good and all and you

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Speaker 1: got to really invest in all the case.

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Speaker 2: Don't pop the head or don't pop the hip? Oh yeah, honey,

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Speaker 2: she could not. She was a soloist.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was a good one. Would you

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Speaker 1: go on the next season of Love Hotel?

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Speaker 3: We want to see you dating.

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Speaker 2: I want to date too, but not in Love Hotel?

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Speaker 3: But are you going to date on?

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Speaker 2: I would if I don't, I'm not opposed to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to it. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 2: finding Here's what, guys, Just to be straight up truthful,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind dating and having fun with people. I

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Speaker 2: really don't. I'm not looking to get married. I'm not

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Speaker 2: looking to move him with someone or like anything like that.

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Speaker 2: I would like to go out, would like to have fun,

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Speaker 2: I would like to really, I've been married basically all

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Speaker 2: of my adult life. Here's here's the thing. I want

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Speaker 2: to spend time with people that I would actually spend

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Speaker 2: time with and not for television. Yeah, then that's that's

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Speaker 2: something that's really like. I have no problem doing it,

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Speaker 2: but it needs to be somebody that I find genuinely

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Speaker 2: interesting because I can't fake it. That's it. I can't

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Speaker 2: fake that.

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Speaker 3: Well. Remember one of our most fun nights.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they showed it, but we were in

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Speaker 1: the Bahamas and we went to the nightclub afterwards, and

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Speaker 3: That type of night or like then maybe some guy

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Speaker 3: was like flirting with you or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good way to tie it

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Speaker 1: in where you had to have a like it didn't

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Speaker 1: happen in a Bahamas and like we were all at

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Speaker 1: that point.

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Speaker 2: We were such a good time, and I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: you don't get to see that. And you know, they

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Speaker 2: say we want to see you dating. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: to see me dating too, But I want to also

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Speaker 2: spend time with people that I would actually spend time with. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not and and and people that I find interesting And

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Speaker 2: I'm somebody that dates way out of like what you

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Speaker 2: may think I do like, I like nerds, I like

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Speaker 2: I like a lot of my I like I have

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Speaker 2: a wide breadth of people that I find interesting. But

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Speaker 2: it has to be like a genuine thing. I can't

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna go sit, You're not gonna go do

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Speaker 1: like some one of the shows, like I think it

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Speaker 1: was put or something they did like speed dating?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually that would actually be fun, because I don't

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Speaker 3: Do I wonder how you do ut speed dating?

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Speaker 2: Probably not well because I like to get to know people.

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Speaker 2: I don't really I mean, yes, you judge people in

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Speaker 2: the first what millisecond that you meet them, but oftentimes

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Speaker 2: I can be wrong.

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Speaker 1: How long did it take for you to decide that

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Speaker 3: A year?

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Speaker 2: And Tom a year? I waited on Tom for a year.

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Speaker 3: But did you like him immediately?

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Speaker 2: Mister Girardi, which is how I met him? Obviously? He's

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Speaker 2: Tom to me. Was the kindest, nicest person to everyone,

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Speaker 2: from the valet to the bus boy, to the waiter

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Speaker 2: to the cocktail waitress. The owners loved him. He was

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Speaker 2: him for a year before we ever went on a

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Speaker 2: dinner date. Yeah, so I'd actually watched this man for

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Speaker 2: a year.

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Speaker 3: And then how long did you wait to have sucks?

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Speaker 2: Months?

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Speaker 3: Months for Peters.

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Speaker 2: Sa doing that? Now, that was a different time in life.

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Speaker 2: Like now, I'm not waiting at all. And I have

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Speaker 2: no problem saying that because because bottom line is, I'm

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Speaker 2: in a different place in my life. So if I

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Speaker 2: like you and I want to have sex with you,

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Speaker 2: whether it's tonight, tomorrow, whenever, I'm going to be very

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Speaker 2: upfront with that. Yeah, And I have no shame in

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Speaker 2: saying that. And I'm I'm grown and I can do

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Speaker 2: whatever the fuck I want and I will do it.

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Speaker 3: And if something feels right, I will do that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I feel comfortable, Yeah, and he feels comfortable then.

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Speaker 3: And it seems like an enjoyable experience, then why not?

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Speaker 2: What are we waiting for? I mean, what what so

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Speaker 2: you can respect me? How about this? Don't need it?

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Speaker 2: Don't need it? You know, it's just it's not I'm

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Speaker 2: a really grown up. Well I hate to say this

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Speaker 2: because it sounds so trite, but it's like, what is

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Speaker 2: it that you're going to do? Marry me. That's not

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Speaker 2: in the cars. I don't want that looking for someone kids. Wait,

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Speaker 2: that's in the review. So we're here to have fun

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Speaker 2: and I love pleasure. I'm sure most men do too,

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Speaker 2: and so that's what I'm into, and that'll that's it'll

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Speaker 2: be what I was gonna.

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Speaker 1: But if you if you started hanging out with somebody

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Speaker 1: and you were enjoying them, would you ask them do

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Speaker 1: you come on Real House Lives?

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Speaker 2: That's a really difficult ask. And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: It takes a specific person it. Listen, how many wives

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you know? Meaning that you think you know what this?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I could do that to somebody

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Speaker 2: that isn't already in the public eye. To take someone

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Speaker 2: to come on a show like.

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Speaker 3: This, then it makes us seem a little phony.

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Speaker 2: But they don't do well, they're not themselves, and it's

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Speaker 2: not fair because then they receive like if you you

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Speaker 3: Within seconds, they can say one wrong thing and edit.

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Speaker 2: That's my point. You could, honest, you could innocently bring

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Speaker 2: someone as a plug one to an event. They could

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Speaker 2: not really knowing what's going on. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: into the game players, don't hit me up if you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well in life too, Like there's a certain game

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Speaker 2: that I'm playing that not everybody's playing. And it's not

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Speaker 2: about your money.

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Speaker 3: It's not about your money.

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Speaker 2: It's not about your money.

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Speaker 3: Is it about confidence, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's about in confidence, intelligence and accomplishment and kindness. Kind well, yes,

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Speaker 2: kindness too. But I mean, if you really want to

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Speaker 2: get down to it, it's about your life experience. You

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Speaker 2: You can't be a lot of charisma.

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Speaker 3: Well that's called riz now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is for the for the kids.

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Speaker 3: The riz theris you gotta have the risk. Sorry, slave's

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Speaker 2: I kind of like that for you, the rizzler.

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Speaker 3: How's the wrizzler? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment you almost quit r h

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Speaker 2: Yes, I wanted to. I sincerely thought about quitting during

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be a quitter. And I wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to be ran out of something that no matter

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Speaker 2: of my life story, right, And that's something that I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the timeframe?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: When it was during the worst of my legal troubles,

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Speaker 2: So it was probably right that season where I drank

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Speaker 2: a lot and blacked out a lot. Yeah, whenever that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was like two seasons ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, how much of Erica Jane is still

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Speaker 1: Erica Girardi when the cameras are off? And can you

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Speaker 1: explain this to people? Because I listen to your ted talk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I feel like that's when honestly, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of the things that I learned was through that, and

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Speaker 1: I was able to connect with you in a different way.

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Speaker 1: But I think people get a little confused about this

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Speaker 1: Erica Jane versus Erica Gerard.

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Speaker 2: I think again, this comes down to performance persona and

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Speaker 2: like what but we could also say this, there's also

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Speaker 2: Teddy Mellencamp that's that I know, and Teddy Mellencamp that's

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Speaker 2: on here, right. So it's like when I used to

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Speaker 2: see my judge friends on the bench and they would

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Speaker 2: be tough as fuck and then they'd be like fun,

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Speaker 2: or my friends that are in law enforcement that are

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Speaker 2: tough as fuck, but then they're nice people. So Erica

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Speaker 2: Jane is a I'm not saying that there's our performance personas,

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Speaker 2: but in some way like we're different. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: a performance persona. It's an over the top caricature, no limits,

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Speaker 2: no boundaries. But I'm actually basically like a very calm,

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Speaker 2: sort of level headed person. Do you push that for shows?

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Speaker 2: It's called shows. Yeah, you do that for shows.

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Speaker 3: But I think when you're on Beverly Hills, you're Erica Girardi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this isn't of course I'm Erica. But you

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Speaker 2: know we're talking about an engineered reality, right, So the

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Speaker 2: show is based around our lives, and yes, it's all true.

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Speaker 2: I wish that mine wasn't true, Okay, whenever somebody says,

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about that scene where it was like you

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Speaker 1: There's some housewives that talk about how they have zero

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. I think with the women

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Speaker 3: Who do you think you're closest with?

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Speaker 2: I see you every week.

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Speaker 1: If you were to get into trouble and you could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's tough, meaning that she's real clear.

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Speaker 3: If you could go back to when you were twenty

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Speaker 2: Just keep going, it's going to work out. Well, let

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Speaker 2: me think what was I doing when I was twenty five?

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Speaker 3: Does that haunt you at all? Are you like? No,

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Speaker 3: that happened just right?

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Speaker 2: I it is what it is. I think I would

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Speaker 2: it's interesting because I don't really live my life with

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Speaker 2: gave something. I believe anyway, you gain something from everything

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Speaker 1: So what would happen if somebody, if you started dating

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Speaker 2: Again, that's not gonna I can tell you right now.

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Speaker 2: I did kind of have that happen, and I revolted,

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Speaker 2: like I literally physically strong. It took me about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, See, I mean I think that's the scary think.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons why I'm not easily approachable either.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that I put out come talk

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Speaker 2: I've talked to my therapist about it, like how do

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Speaker 2: reactions to people, like talking to me, I say a verse.

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Speaker 2: It's not dramatic, but just like inside where you're like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But you say that, But that's I.

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Speaker 1: Think when it comes to complete strangers. But if it's

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Speaker 3: Yes, which I don't think people know about you.

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Speaker 2: If I feel safe like with someone that I'm very

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Speaker 3: I don't know you, and now you've given me a red.

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Speaker 2: Flat right, I don't know you. I don't trust you. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think everybody's I don't even want to put this

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Speaker 3: That's how it starts.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is an enemy, male or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody is out to get anybody. No one is friendly.

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Speaker 2: So but then when I get to trust people, and

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Speaker 2: like Teddy says, the Erica that they know is completely

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Speaker 2: different than the Erica that you'd be like, what, that's

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Speaker 1: That's like I've introduced you to a complete stranger before

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Speaker 3: Is asking questions, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because a lot of people are so self obsessed or absorbed.

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Speaker 2: Why my ticket to know others? And I will also

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Speaker 2: remember and I will say, oh I remember if I

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Speaker 3: Do you remember how is your.

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Speaker 2: Daughter doing at college? I know you said that she

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Speaker 1: So when we see on Beverly hillstar I've seen in

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to go on record as saying

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Speaker 2: But if I'm interested in something, which I'm really interested

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with. I just retain and people. When I

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Speaker 2: of cool, I just remember everything they say to me.

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Speaker 1: Can you remember people's names, because that's something I need

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Speaker 2: I need to work on that. It depends I remember,

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Speaker 2: and I've said this many times, I don't really remember

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Speaker 2: My god, Okay, I'm three years old. I remember my

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Speaker 2: you remember this because it's my father's father, and I

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Speaker 3: Do you remember what he looks like and everything?

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't only remember her holding me and

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Speaker 2: But I can't see him making me emotions. Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I remember my three year old birthday party, and then

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Speaker 2: I remember three being great, and I remember kindergarten being fabulous.

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Speaker 2: I fucking loved kindergarten. Kindergarten was my favorite academic year.

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Speaker 3: Did you have like mini mouse ears and do all these? No?

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Speaker 2: But my I had a playdate with every little boy

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Speaker 2: They're living in my mind. But you know, my grandfather

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Speaker 2: but he would you know, and used to ski. We

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Speaker 2: constantly pulling my ass around on skis or slaloming and

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Speaker 1: And sorry, now now I'm now I'm asking my own

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fifty to fifty thing. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that. Look people every but my mother was young,

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Speaker 2: so was he. But it's a fifty to fifty thing.

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Speaker 2: People do what they want to do, you know. I

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Speaker 1: They asked if we'd ever go in a double date.

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Speaker 1: I for sure would me too, But I don't know

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Speaker 2: But I but a date. Let me just say something

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Speaker 2: going back to friends, right, dates, Dates do not mean

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Speaker 2: we're running off with them and getting married. Right Like,

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Speaker 2: if you're seeing somebody and you said it, come on,

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Speaker 2: let's go, Eric, I'd be like, of course, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: very easy to get along with that. I do a

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Speaker 3: I would do a.

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Speaker 1: Double day with you a million percent. But who do

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Speaker 1: you think should be the picker of the two guys?

439
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Speaker 3: You or me?

440
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 1: You?

441
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why, because you are far more

442
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: I can roll with the punches. We've seen she this one.

443
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: You need more control? Yeah, and you deserve the control

444
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: right now. I'm just along for the ride, like whatever, okay, perfect, well,

445
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: and we could have fun and it's not like there's

446
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: no pressure to like there's your dreams. Let me also

447
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: say this, when I talk about dating, I'm not talking

448
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: about somebody to come save me or rescue me. I'm

449
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 2: talking about I'm living my life in the present moment.

450
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 2: Let's have fun. Yeah, that's really what it all comes

451
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Speaker 2: down to.

452
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: Let's have fun.

453
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Speaker 1: And I mean I'm here to tell you like there

454
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Speaker 1: was I was recently at an event, but he was like, Oh, can.

455
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Speaker 3: We set you up with this this man?

456
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

457
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: And I mean maybe he had riz, but he had

458
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: none of the other things that I would enjoy.

459
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: And they're like, you don't understand how rich he is,

460
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: and I was.

461
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Like, I don't.

462
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: At this point in my life. I couldn't care less.

463
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah I could. I would rather.

464
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: Hustle and slang every single thing that I can on

465
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: Instagram than do with somebody that I know is going

466
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: to have complete control over me and that I do

467
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: not find attractive and that.

468
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said there, and I think that.

469
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Speaker 2: So I've been totally on my own for almost five

470
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Speaker 2: years now, and while it's scary, there's something to that

471
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 2: that what you're saying about having complete And I don't

472
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: know that I could be talked to like that again

473
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: at that dinner you brought up. I don't know that

474
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Speaker 2: I could do that. I just don't know. I'd rather

475
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: get out here and stand up every day and work

476
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: than kind of be like taken back to that playing

477
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: to feel that, like to feel stall, to feel small,

478
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: and to feel like you owe someone something or you

479
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: or you're indebted to them, and yes you're married to them.

480
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: And guys, I'm not saying this, but you've been married

481
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Speaker 2: to one of these personalities. It's larger than life or whatever. Like,

482
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: it's a lot.

483
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: It's a lot. It's a lot trying to shrink yourself or.

484
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: Trying to or think.

485
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: Then when you're not trying, it's weird. It's like you're

486
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Speaker 3: trying to shrink yourself. But then you also need to

487
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Speaker 3: impress them.

488
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: You need to carry your weight, yes, but then you

489
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: need to not uh change on them. And then and

490
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Speaker 2: I'll never forget Doug Ross saying Doug.

491
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Speaker 1: Ross is one of the producers, used to be one

492
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Speaker 1: of the heads of Evolution, which he produces housewives.

493
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Speaker 2: This is years ago. Well, how has Tom taken to

494
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: you being on? I thought, you know, well, who's fine

495
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: with it? Well, sometimes men, you know their wives. I

496
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: was like, well, no, Tom's had a lot of a

497
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: lot of success and a lot of turns in the sun.

498
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Speaker 2: He would ever feel any type of way about me.

499
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: He would be so thrilled for me. Cut to nine

500
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: years later. That was not the case.

501
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: Of course, it wasn't the case. You felt that way.

502
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: You hadn't been in that situation before that's right, and

503
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: then the second that you were.

504
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: Well, it took took years. But then at the end,

505
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 2: like before I I mean, it was like there were

506
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: some things that came out of Tom's mouth that I

507
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: literally thought, My God, is that you in there?

508
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say this to my worst enemy.

509
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: My God, is that you in there? Like is this

510
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: how you've really felt about me the entire fucking time?

511
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 3: Gosh, guys.

512
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Speaker 1: Well, the thing that we can say in closing is

513
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: life can be really freaking hard, but it also can

514
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: be amazing. And I think the more that we open

515
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: up and the more that we talk about stuff, the good,

516
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly, the better our lives are

517
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna be.

518
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: I think also to no one in life does not

519
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: go through this with partners like on, so you may

520
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: not experience it the way we experienced it or you

521
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: experienced it. And yes, we had lived. We choose, we

522
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: choose to lead public lives, so obviously we're up for

523
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: whatever interpretation. But everybody goes through something like this, Yeah,

524
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: we're just like, what what the fuck is going on?

525
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of I want to know, Okay, whoever our listener

526
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: was that wrote in and said she wanted to go

527
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: to lunch with her best her ex boyfriend.

528
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 2: No, no, it wasn't a next boyfriend, it was a friend.

529
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: She was married to the controlling husband. She was going

530
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: to go see a friend. But is it worth it? Right?

531
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: Was it worth Did you go see him? I need

532
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: to know did you see him? And what happened and

533
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: give us all the We need some kind of follow

534
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: up on some of these things.

535
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: And I wanted to follow up by saying this. I

536
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: was watching our clips the other day. I'm not saying

537
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: you can't have friendships. I'm saying, underneath the conditions that

538
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: you said, I have a controlling husband, is it worth it?

539
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: And I said, no, it's not worth it.

540
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if you have done it, and if so,

541
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: was it worth it?

542
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Because maybe if you can get away with it, sure,

543
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: But do you want to be married to somebody controlling

544
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: as somebody?

545
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: But you have to get away with things?

546
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: That's point.

547
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: When you're doing nothing wrong.

548
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: That's my point. And you're going to be made to

549
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: feel like you were doing something wrong and all you

550
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: were doing was meeting with a friend. Yeah, life is

551
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: too short for this shit.

552
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: Life is too short, you guys. Life is short even

553
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: on its longest days, like my new tattoo, which.

554
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: By the way, I know that's such a beautiful thing.

555
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, well, we appreciate you for tuning in.

556
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Speaker 1: We will be back next week if you have any questions, thoughts, concerns,

557
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: you want to leave it out for.

558
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: Us thoughts concerns. Oh wait, should we have that one

559
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: question that we were.

560
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: Like, eh, the question was where do you stand with

561
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: Denise and LVP. For me, Denise I have not spoken

562
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: to in a very long time. Apparently she was reaching

563
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: out to me when I was in the hospital, but

564
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't talking to anyone. But I

565
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: can say this is everything that I had thought about Denise,

566
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: and the person that she was in real life is

567
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: what we saw on her new show. So the persona

568
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: and that's what always drove.

569
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm simply saying.

570
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: The part that irritated me so much about Denise was

571
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: she was performing to be.

572
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Somebody that she really was.

573
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: On her new show, she seems to be more open

574
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: and relaxed in herself and not as worried about pretending

575
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: to be this Beverly Hills housewife, and that made me

576
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: go Okay, good, I'm glad she came around LVP. I've

577
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: not seen in the flesh in a couple of years.

578
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: I think the last time I saw her was the

579
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: night of the James Kennedy fiasco, the one, not the

580
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: most recent one, but a couple times ago. And I

581
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: was at Tom Thomas after the MTV Awards and I

582
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: walked by her and I said.

583
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Hello, what did she say to you?

584
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: And we probably talked for like five minutes, but it

585
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: was it was whatever. Do I think she'll ever probably

586
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: say anything nice about me?

587
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: No? Do I need to say anything nice about her?

588
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: No?

589
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: No?

590
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, what about you?

591
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: I saw Denise because I did her show. Oh yeah,

592
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: it was cute and I had a nice time with Denise.

593
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: Denise can be for Denise. Her life is wild, Yeah,

594
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: it is wild. Her life is wild, like God bless

595
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: her because we couldn't do it. I can't do that. No,

596
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying anything bad about it. It's just

597
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: I need a little bit more structure, just a little bit.

598
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: Lisa vander Pope, I have not seen in years.

599
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: Have you seen her since she didn't come on the

600
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: show anymore? No, I don't think so that I mean

601
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: because that's the thing.

602
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: They make Beverly Hill seem like it's such a small

603
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: town that we see everybody all the time, but we don't.

604
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think she's moved on, right, Like she's moved

605
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: on and whatever. I will say this though, I saw

606
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: her because I get tagged, and shit, don't bring up

607
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: housewives if you don't want to be as you know, association.

608
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: She does bring it up a lot, and she.

609
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Does bring up housewives to talk about negative negative.

610
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: There was a magician and you know, can you make

611
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: people disappear? Can you make some housewives disappear? I was like, bitch,

612
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: let's make you disappear. Why do you like I just leave.

613
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: It alone or come back on and fight it out.

614
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Good luck to you all, right, guys, thank.

615
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: You here we are being nice. And then we ended

616
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: on that note. Yeah, come down, come on down.

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Speaker 3: Talk to y'all soon. Bye bye,