WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Scouting the Colts 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.000 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.800 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.680 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:26.599 time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:33.000 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.720 welcome to the Break today. It's just Nick, David and I. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.320 Eagleton is just too busy for us today, but that's okay. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.839 We can manage the show without him. Now, let's just 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:50.199 give okay, no, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. It's been 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.680 one of those weeks. Yeah, when you know when everybody's 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.280 when you win a game to put you on the 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.280 cusp of a division title, everybody's got to have a meeting. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.680 It seems like it's been it's been everything you could 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.120 think of this week, but it's been there. It's been 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.960 pretty hectic, which, by the way, if we don't get 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.400 into it, this is actually our last show of the week, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.400 So if you do want to throw some predictions out there, Oh, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.880 I didn't even think about that. Yeah, did you read 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.160 my notes? Nick? No? I didn't. I hinted it out 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.319 to you. I'll be here though, I'll be here tomorrow, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.039 joint show tomorrow. I'm excited. I don't. I haven't done 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.840 radio with Brian since the Draft show, I think, so. Yeah, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.080 I'm excited about this show. This showed me is a 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.800 is a big deal too. Oh, I know that. I 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.520 just no, this is the Dave Hellman's last show ever 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:40.320 in his twenties. It's true, thank you, it's true. Tomorrow 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.320 about Big Day, twelve more hours, twelve more hours. It's 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.960 youth before. It's all tomorrow, dirty thirty baby, Big Day. No, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.960 it's not. But yeah, you know, it's fine. I'm not 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.600 I'm not freaking out. Maybe I'm not freaking out. I'm 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.160 freaking out a little bit. But it's cool. You'll be fine. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:03.160 Just one day. Brian wasn't. He was kind of depressed 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:07.320 a little bit. Yesterday, was it? Yes, yesterday, it's been birthday. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.160 Getting older? Getting older sucks, man. You know fifty five 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.480 broad us. Yeah, age is just a number. But when 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.720 the number starts getting hot larger, you're just like, this 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.079 kind of sucks. And and by the way, Amber went, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.359 you went to what twenty three, twenty four whatever this week, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.799 last weekend, so yeah, Saturday, a week of birthdays. Mickey, Brian, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.640 our whole staff was born in December. It seems like Derek, Yeah, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:35.000 nice anyway, Sagittarius people, all right, Well, I wanted to 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.280 get into a little quick update on the injuries and 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.720 some of the guys. We still had Taywan Austin and 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:46.320 Sean Lee practicing again and was seek back at practice. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.920 Seq was back at practice. That's I mean a purely 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.760 a maintenance situation. I mean, and he had a stinger 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.960 in the game. He said he's fine. The dude had 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.400 forty touches and we're gonna no Zach is Zach is 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.799 not back, which not plan. It doesn't It's not trend 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.200 in that way. Um. You know again, he's in that 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.440 class of guy that doesn't need practice. I trust that 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.520 he could suit up if he felt it, but not 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.320 not even to see him at practice on Thursday of 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.600 game week. It does not seem like a good sign 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.040 um for anybody. So something to watch. But I'm it's 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.560 starting to feel like it might be such a healthy lead. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.000 I mean, three game cushion right pretty much. And and 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.959 you look around, I mean Philadelphia doesn't know if they're 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.000 gonna play Carson Wentz this week. Yeah, they I mean, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.480 you can't I get it, Like you can't afford to 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.360 think of this. It's like, well it's you know, it's 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.680 okay if we go a game. But yeah, but no, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.520 we need to rush your best player out there if 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.360 he's not ready for it in this situation. I will 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.720 say this though, I um, I don't think Tavon Austin, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.320 if I had to guess, I don't think he's gonna play. Um, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.880 he has back to practice. Then they called it limited 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.640 on Wednesday, probably will be limited here. And listening to 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.760 him in the locker room, I mean he didn't sound 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.240 he didn't sound like he called I mean sounded like Garrett. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.120 He was like it's a process that we're still working 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.240 on in things. And just seeing him a little bit 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.680 of practice today. He wasn't working with that first group. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.280 He was kind of working with more of the practice 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.320 squad guys, second you know, wave of group. But and 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.919 that's if I don't want to miss quote him, but 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.120 he was telling reporters like his muscle like kind of 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.560 came off off the bone. Yeah, I heard off the bone. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.480 I heard off the bone and a turn and went 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.279 the other way. Yeah, that's which those are types of 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.000 things that typically require surgery. Which you think about it, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.400 there was when he got hurt. There was kind of 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.440 some debate about whether he needed to go to IR 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.520 and they opted not to. So, you know, we we 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.960 have fun with Tavon. He likes to dance and all that, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.200 but like, I mean, if his muscle was coming off 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.400 the bone, that's pretty severe thing. Back on the bone 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.640 for a while though yeah, no, it hadn't bad to 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.560 the bone. I'm just saying there's a difference between you know, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.240 dancing and practice and running in an NFL football game. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.920 So I wouldn't be surprised if he does much difference. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.160 Not the way he dances, it's a pretty big difference. Like, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.159 it's a pretty big difference between I dance at practice 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.160 as as y'all like to note, and I definitely am 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:16.200 not pretty different moves though yeah, mine are better. Um, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.480 I just I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.000 That's a long that's a long process. And yeah, I 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.880 mean three limited practices might not be enough to get 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.640 you back from a nine. I've got one for l two. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.360 David Irving not at practice, No, not at practice, continue 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.680 the street. I wanted to talk about him real quick, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.440 but before we why because again yes we we know 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.000 what it is right now, which is we don't know basically, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.000 but people keep asking about him. So just again a 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.360 quick update for everyone that keeps asking about David Orrbing. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.200 When is he coming back as of right now? I 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.479 mean the expectation it is nothing. It's like we'll see 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.600 him if it's on the field. Everything. I think there 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.320 are people in the building that kind of expect did 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.720 this almost Um, he's got so much going on in 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.480 his life. You know, you're not getting paid, but if 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.520 you come back, can you get hurt you still get paid. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.480 It's there's something weird going on because yeah, high ankle sprain, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.800 I get it, But all these other injuries that we 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.279 talked about, the guys were there, they're traveling. Travis Frederick's 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.720 been at every game. Lee's going going to every game. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.920 It's a different thing going on for sure. Um, he 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.960 hasn't been here. He hasn't been here at all. And 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.000 also what I mean, there's no doubt what is the 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:34.080 tightest knit group in the delone the Hot Boys. They 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.159 got their own names at their logo they got. Do 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.240 they want him back? I mean, that's the question that 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.200 I have them. Yeah, they would want a great player back, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.320 or a good player who can be great. But you know, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.719 these other guys are playing so well that they're they're 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.600 all in, they have bought all into this thing, and 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.760 here's a guy that's not there, and if he comes back, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.000 you would you would think it would just be because 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.760 there's playoff and playoff money to be to be had. Yeah, no, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.360 I think they would want to back. They probably yeah, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.440 like there's probably some I would bet they're aggravated. But 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.400 remember DeMarcus Lawrence would love to have a guy of 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.560 his caliber eating up attention that he can take advantage of. 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.800 I'm sure. I remember at the beginning of the season 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.800 when we were back at training camp, somebody over in 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.080 that area was telling me a story of the relationship 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.320 or dynamic with the whole David Irving situation, where, yes, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.560 David Irving a very talented guy. He has it in him, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.440 but as far as the attitude and what he's bringing 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.160 in the effort that he's making, it's not there. And 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.280 someone told me that Sean Lee has had a conversation 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.640 with him, and Sean Lee was very upset, and it 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.080 just all the teammates were just and when you have that, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.480 it affects everything. And you don't necessarily you don't want 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.080 someone that's kind of sharing the victory with you that's 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.000 not really putting in the work when you're out here 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.080 sweating every day. Well, because a guy like Karen Read 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.880 or Daniel Ross will say isn't inactive for a game. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.320 They've been busting their butt through this winning streak and 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.760 win in some games and helping him and playing pretty well, 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.320 playing a role. And then you know, if somebody would 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.840 have come let's say he comes back, and you know, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.680 one of those guys would would be an act of 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.480 It's a business. That's the way it goes. You got 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.080 to get your best player. And as Tyrol Crawford said 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.560 a few weeks ago, could anyone come back with not 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.160 practice and just play well and contribute And he said, yeah, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.080 David came. Yeah, so he's a freak. Yeah he's a freak, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.200 and you're gonna play those guys. But and it's the same, 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.280 it's the exact same conversation we've had a million times. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.960 You know, is David Irving the right kind of guy 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.760 in the pure sense of like what Jason Garrett talks about, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.280 not really like he's got he want. He's an actor, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.120 he's in commercials. He is an eccentric guy. Like he 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:45.360 does not eat, breathe, and sleep and sweat football like 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.240 Sean Lee. He doesn't. And I think David Irving would 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.560 admit that. I'm not trying to talk trash on him, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.880 but he's a freak. He's a freak. And that's how that, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.960 like line one is, are you a freak when it 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.480 comes to being a football player? Like that's line one, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.080 and then the rest of that always falls into place 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.720 behind it. Uh, And that's I mean, that's why you 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.040 put up with it. It's a weird situation. But if 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.079 he does make his way back, they sure as hell 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.880 could use him when these games get more meaningful in 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.840 the playoffs. But again, like next year, you're not, No, 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.800 that's your chances again, this was his other chance. They've 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.400 already done this with him twice. It would shock me 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.760 to see him get any type of long term I 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.320 had a deal here at a coach on the staff 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.720 tell me that he was he was just a little bit, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.679 you know, just a few months away from just back 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.720 in the truck, you know, back and just loading up 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.480 the cash. He was going to get one of the 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.680 biggest deals there is. If he has a really good 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.319 year this year, he was going to get you know, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.400 it wouldn't be one of the highest paid defensive tackles. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.559 Now he will probably be Um. He will, he will, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.280 you know, try to get his life in order in 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.440 the offseason. I doubt the Cowboys resign him Um, but 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.800 it will probably be a minimum deal or and if 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.920 they if the Cowboys do, it would probably be another 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.959 one year, one year situation. But I don't think any 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.720 nobody in the league would do anything more than that. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.079 I can't imagine that they would. So on the last 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.200 you know, it's too bad you're in change. That is 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.680 so sad. It makes me so sad when you see 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.480 someone that just he has it. He was born with 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.160 the freaking talent and it just unable to use it. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.840 And another thing that makes me sad is like Rico Gathers, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:24.480 when you see someone different different things because it's very different. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:29.360 But I'm saying Rico Gathers has the size and when 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.040 you look at that size, how much you can utilize 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.640 a guy like him. And we talked yesterday about using 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.199 the tight ends and in the red zone and all that, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:41.200 and I kept receiving questions, so I thought maybe we'd 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.080 bring it up once again as far as the red 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.160 zone goes, And after seeing the how the tight ends 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:53.640 played last weekend, would you want to consider using them 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.559 in the red zone somehow, getting them involved and trying 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.160 to get the ball to them and possibly cashing in this. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.320 You know, I think he's the best option down there 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.640 for that if you're if you're going to really focus 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.480 on a tight end, because I think he's one guy 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.720 that can go up and get the football and you 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.760 know he presents a mismatch for you. Now, you can't 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.880 have a missed assignment on blocking and and you know 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.240 you can't. That's not a good place for a penalty, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.800 So I mean, or a missed block or miss block 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.679 or any ever that. But who decided to run the 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.360 ball down there? Right? But do you think the Cowboys 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.760 are kind of moving on from this because at the 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.400 beginning of the season, we saw how many opportunities they 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.400 gave Rico in the red zone and it just never 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.920 really worked out for them. And then eventually we saw 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.880 that kind of fade out and disappear. I mean, one 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.200 thing has been pretty clear. And hate saying this, but 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.160 if a guy's wide open, either in the end zone 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.480 or streaking for the end zone, that's not Dak's favorite pass. 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.040 That's just not what he's gonna He's gonna overthrow Rico, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.480 which is hard to do. You have to hit a 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.040 banner to overthrown him. He's overthrown gallop or underthrown a 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.080 couple of times. So wide open going to the end zone, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.640 that's not his thing. But I say that because Rico 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.760 he was open a couple of times down there. And 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.160 I mean, was that New York the bad overthrow in 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.120 the back of the end zone. It feels like twenty fifteen, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.000 it really, Yeah, that game against the Giance, Yeah, I 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.080 think it was New Yorker. Yeah, I think it was 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.760 second game. So hey, maybe maybe give it another try. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.079 They need to try some things down there. This is 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.960 a good time to ring and he seems like that's 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.679 passes are getting a little better. Typically, typically you see 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.200 typically you see signs of those trends before they appear. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.960 You know, like you could see even before he started 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.640 making plays. You could see Michael Gallops snaps trending upward, 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.600 and you could see them trying to do more with him, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.040 And I don't get that sense from Rico, Like I 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.840 don't get the sense that they're trying to incorporate him 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.480 on some level, if I mean, if anything. Jarwin and Schultz, yeah, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.680 I don't know that they're not really big enough that 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.360 I think of them as these like drastic red zone 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.160 mismatch guys. But I do think based on their success 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.840 in this last game, I bet we'll see more of 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.640 them in these last three weeks. All right, let's take 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.000 our first break when we come back. Let's dive into 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.440 the Colts defense. Dave is gonna give us a pretty 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.520 cool report, hopefully. Thanks for ratt vote of confidence. If 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.200 you're like me and you love I mean, if you 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.280 have a thing, then cutting the chord is scary. But 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.240 then I found out I could switch to DirecTV now 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.600 and still get the live sports I love. 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This is easy, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.440 ag because if you've ever watched the Cowboys play defense, 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.320 then you got it. It's over it's the same thing, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:56.480 same thing. Matt Eberflus, where did he coach? He was 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.240 the dalla he was. He was just like Christopher shard 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.000 is the defense of coordinators, sort of behind the scenes. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.880 Eva Flus was the same guy here. He was a 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.400 passing game coordinator. He helped put the game plan together 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.800 and let Rod Marinelli worry about the rushman. So this, 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.720 I mean, this is four three Tampa two stuff. Obviously, 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.520 I mean the personnel is a little bit different, but 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:20.320 this is the same stuff. Uh, Freenie's not there anymore. Freeny, No, No, 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.520 Freeny's not there. Matthis isn't there. Gary Brackett's not there anymore. Oh, 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.640 I really know. Carrie Brackett was one of my faves, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.680 like Bob Sanders. Bob Sanders would have been a Hall 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.880 of Famer if he could stay on the field. Um, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.600 I have a pretty good young rookie linebacker. They do well, Okay, 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.240 do your thing. No, I mean, it's it's the same thing. Uh. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.560 They're stout against the run. They're eighth and run defense. 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.560 They're not quite as good as the Cowboys against the past. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.720 They're not quite as they're They're a little bit they're 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.880 not as good by just a little bit. Twenty three 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.320 points per game instead of eighteen. Uh, you know, fifteenth 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.000 against the past instead of I think the Cowboys are 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.760 sixth right now or something like that. Um, but they 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.200 want to get pressure with their front. They have athletic 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.320 linebackers and a young secondary full of draft picks and 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:12.000 sound pretty familiar. Uh. Darius Leonards is the guy. Uh, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.399 it's unbelievable. I mean, he's a second round pick. I 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.960 think he was the fifty ninth pick or somewhere around there. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.280 You guys loved him on the Draft show, Brian Brian 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:24.120 was absolutely in love with him. Yeah, you're yeah, they're 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.080 smart guys, Garrett. Garrett told us that he was like, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.480 it's absolutely no surprise to us that Mattie Berflus wanted 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.360 this guy because he just fits what this defense is for. Uh. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.600 He's super athletic, he's a tackling machine, one thirty five, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.880 one hundred and thirty five tackles. He leads the entire 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.240 NFL as a rookie and not a first round pick. Uh. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.840 That's that's unbelievable to me, which and I didn't know 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.120 this because again I would argue the Cults are probably 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.560 the team in the league that people just know the 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.800 let the least about. They got another linebacker by the 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.560 name of Anthony Walker, ninety seven tackles and ten for loss, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.720 So he's the Jalen too, Leonard's vanderss. Seriously, I mean 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:06.280 it's the same stuff. There's not as much talent on 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.639 the on the really the rest of the defense, in 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.400 my opinion, like I said, they're just a step below. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.200 I circled this They've got so they got draft picks 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.240 all over their secondary. But you know, Okay, Malie Cooker's 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.360 a first round pick, but Clayton Gag Clayton Gethers. Their 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.000 other safeties of a fourth round pick, Nate Harriston, their corners, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.720 a fifth round pick. Quincy Wilson out of Florida's kind 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.520 of there, do everything. Nickel guy, he's a second round pick. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.960 So it's it's not as many resources or yeah, I 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.720 don't think so compared to like Byron Cheeto Jordan. You know, 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.040 these guys all being top one hundred picks, and then 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.440 you can tell their talent deficient up front because literally 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.160 only one of their rotation of eight guys or two 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.159 two of them is like homegrown talents. You know, they 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:01.240 got Marcus Hunt, who's a washout from Cincinnati, Nico Autry. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.080 Have you ever heard that name? Which he might make 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.879 the Pro Bowl? He might make the Pro Bowl. Defensive tackle. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.360 They stole him out of Oakland. He's got eight sacks. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.680 He's had five in the last two games. AFC Defensive 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.639 Player of the Week. And then Jabal Shared is a 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.359 guy they got from New England. He's got five and 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.760 a half sacks. He's their best plays first name Jabal 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:29.080 Jabal nice and pronounce yeah, allum, so it in my opinion. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.520 And you know, just like we talked about the offense yesterday, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.280 like they're clearly trying to revamp this thing. They're gonna 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.119 be signing and drafting guys with all that cap space 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.639 and their draft picks, but they're trying to make it 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.879 work right now with what they got and it's working 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.680 pretty well. Like they've got just as many sacks as 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.240 as the Cowboys have with thirty five. I think that's 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.600 the biggest difference. Mattieberflus without Rod Marinelli, seems like he's 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.600 more willing to bring pressure. They've been blitzing a lot 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.800 the last two weeks. They've got fourteen sacks in their 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.560 last four games. A lot of that is coming from 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:04.399 corner blitzes, slot blitzes. Darius Leonard blitzes like a madman. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.880 He's got seven sacks that would put him at second 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.399 on this team. And see that's the big difference between 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.919 him and vander Rush. Vaneres has a lot of tackles too, 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.080 he doesn't have any sacks and I and it works 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:17.919 for Rod Marinelli. I mean, the pass rush has been 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.560 good this year, so I'm not trying to knock him, 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.880 but he doesn't like to bring pressure like it's I mean, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.800 I know they've they've done it at times this year, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.520 they've done it at times in the past, but he 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.400 would prefer for his front to get all the pressure, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.200 whereas it looks like I think Matt Eberflus looked at 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.400 his guys and was like, this isn't getting it done, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.960 so we're gonna start blitzing. And it's it's working for 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:38.760 him to this point. That's the way to do it, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.800 you know. And Eberflus knows this offensive line pretty well 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.520 and and he's gone up against it in practice and 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:48.920