1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the Break today. It's just Nick, David and I. 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Eagleton is just too busy for us today, but that's okay. 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: We can manage the show without him. Now, let's just 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: give okay, no, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. It's been 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: one of those weeks. Yeah, when you know when everybody's 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: when you win a game to put you on the 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: cusp of a division title, everybody's got to have a meeting. 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: It seems like it's been it's been everything you could 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: think of this week, but it's been there. It's been 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: pretty hectic, which, by the way, if we don't get 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: into it, this is actually our last show of the week, 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: So if you do want to throw some predictions out there, Oh, 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. Yeah, did you read 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: my notes? Nick? No? I didn't. I hinted it out 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: to you. I'll be here though, I'll be here tomorrow, 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: joint show tomorrow. I'm excited. I don't. I haven't done 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: radio with Brian since the Draft show, I think, so. Yeah, 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this show. This showed me is a 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: is a big deal too. Oh, I know that. I 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: just no, this is the Dave Hellman's last show ever 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: in his twenties. It's true, thank you, it's true. Tomorrow 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: about Big Day, twelve more hours, twelve more hours. It's 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: youth before. It's all tomorrow, dirty thirty baby, Big Day. No, 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: it's not. But yeah, you know, it's fine. I'm not 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm not freaking out. Maybe I'm not freaking out. I'm 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: freaking out a little bit. But it's cool. You'll be fine. 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: Just one day. Brian wasn't. He was kind of depressed 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yesterday, was it? Yes, yesterday, it's been birthday. 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Getting older? Getting older sucks, man. You know fifty five 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: broad us. Yeah, age is just a number. But when 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the number starts getting hot larger, you're just like, this 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: kind of sucks. And and by the way, Amber went, 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: you went to what twenty three, twenty four whatever this week, 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: last weekend, so yeah, Saturday, a week of birthdays. Mickey, Brian, 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: our whole staff was born in December. It seems like Derek, Yeah, 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: nice anyway, Sagittarius people, all right, Well, I wanted to 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: get into a little quick update on the injuries and 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: some of the guys. We still had Taywan Austin and 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Sean Lee practicing again and was seek back at practice. 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Seq was back at practice. That's I mean a purely 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: a maintenance situation. I mean, and he had a stinger 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: in the game. He said he's fine. The dude had 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: forty touches and we're gonna no Zach is Zach is 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: not back, which not plan. It doesn't It's not trend 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: in that way. Um. You know again, he's in that 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: class of guy that doesn't need practice. I trust that 53 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: he could suit up if he felt it, but not 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: not even to see him at practice on Thursday of 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: game week. It does not seem like a good sign 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: um for anybody. So something to watch. But I'm it's 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: starting to feel like it might be such a healthy lead. 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, three game cushion right pretty much. And and 59 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: you look around, I mean Philadelphia doesn't know if they're 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna play Carson Wentz this week. Yeah, they I mean, 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: you can't I get it, Like you can't afford to 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: think of this. It's like, well it's you know, it's 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: okay if we go a game. But yeah, but no, 64 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: we need to rush your best player out there if 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: he's not ready for it in this situation. I will 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: say this though, I um, I don't think Tavon Austin, 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I don't think he's gonna play. Um, 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: he has back to practice. Then they called it limited 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, probably will be limited here. And listening to 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: him in the locker room, I mean he didn't sound 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: he didn't sound like he called I mean sounded like Garrett. 72 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: He was like it's a process that we're still working 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: on in things. And just seeing him a little bit 74 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: of practice today. He wasn't working with that first group. 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: He was kind of working with more of the practice 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: squad guys, second you know, wave of group. But and 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: that's if I don't want to miss quote him, but 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: he was telling reporters like his muscle like kind of 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: came off off the bone. Yeah, I heard off the bone. 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: I heard off the bone and a turn and went 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: the other way. Yeah, that's which those are types of 82 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: things that typically require surgery. Which you think about it, 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: there was when he got hurt. There was kind of 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: some debate about whether he needed to go to IR 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and they opted not to. So, you know, we we 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: have fun with Tavon. He likes to dance and all that, 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: but like, I mean, if his muscle was coming off 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the bone, that's pretty severe thing. Back on the bone 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: for a while though yeah, no, it hadn't bad to 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: the bone. I'm just saying there's a difference between you know, 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: dancing and practice and running in an NFL football game. 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if he does much difference. 93 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Not the way he dances, it's a pretty big difference. Like, 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: it's a pretty big difference between I dance at practice 95 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: as as y'all like to note, and I definitely am 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: not pretty different moves though yeah, mine are better. Um, 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: That's a long that's a long process. And yeah, I 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: mean three limited practices might not be enough to get 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you back from a nine. I've got one for l two. 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: David Irving not at practice, No, not at practice, continue 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: the street. I wanted to talk about him real quick, 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: but before we why because again yes we we know 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: what it is right now, which is we don't know basically, 105 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: but people keep asking about him. So just again a 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: quick update for everyone that keeps asking about David Orrbing. 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: When is he coming back as of right now? I 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: mean the expectation it is nothing. It's like we'll see 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: him if it's on the field. Everything. I think there 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: are people in the building that kind of expect did 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: this almost Um, he's got so much going on in 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: his life. You know, you're not getting paid, but if 113 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you come back, can you get hurt you still get paid. 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: It's there's something weird going on because yeah, high ankle sprain, 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: I get it, But all these other injuries that we 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: talked about, the guys were there, they're traveling. Travis Frederick's 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: been at every game. Lee's going going to every game. 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: It's a different thing going on for sure. Um, he 119 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: hasn't been here. He hasn't been here at all. And 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: also what I mean, there's no doubt what is the 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: tightest knit group in the delone the Hot Boys. They 122 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: got their own names at their logo they got. Do 123 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: they want him back? I mean, that's the question that 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: I have them. Yeah, they would want a great player back, 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: or a good player who can be great. But you know, 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: these other guys are playing so well that they're they're 127 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: all in, they have bought all into this thing, and 128 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: here's a guy that's not there, and if he comes back, 129 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you would you would think it would just be because 130 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: there's playoff and playoff money to be to be had. Yeah, no, 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I think they would want to back. They probably yeah, 132 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: like there's probably some I would bet they're aggravated. But 133 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: remember DeMarcus Lawrence would love to have a guy of 134 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: his caliber eating up attention that he can take advantage of. 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I remember at the beginning of the season 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: when we were back at training camp, somebody over in 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: that area was telling me a story of the relationship 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: or dynamic with the whole David Irving situation, where, yes, 139 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: David Irving a very talented guy. He has it in him, 140 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: but as far as the attitude and what he's bringing 141 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: in the effort that he's making, it's not there. And 142 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: someone told me that Sean Lee has had a conversation 143 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: with him, and Sean Lee was very upset, and it 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: just all the teammates were just and when you have that, 145 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: it affects everything. And you don't necessarily you don't want 146 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: someone that's kind of sharing the victory with you that's 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: not really putting in the work when you're out here 148 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: sweating every day. Well, because a guy like Karen Read 149 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: or Daniel Ross will say isn't inactive for a game. 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: They've been busting their butt through this winning streak and 151 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: win in some games and helping him and playing pretty well, 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: playing a role. And then you know, if somebody would 153 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: have come let's say he comes back, and you know, 154 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys would would be an act of 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: It's a business. That's the way it goes. You got 156 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to get your best player. And as Tyrol Crawford said 157 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, could anyone come back with not 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: practice and just play well and contribute And he said, yeah, 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: David came. Yeah, so he's a freak. Yeah he's a freak, 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: and you're gonna play those guys. But and it's the same, 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: it's the exact same conversation we've had a million times. 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: You know, is David Irving the right kind of guy 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: in the pure sense of like what Jason Garrett talks about, 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: not really like he's got he want. He's an actor, 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: he's in commercials. He is an eccentric guy. Like he 166 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: does not eat, breathe, and sleep and sweat football like 167 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: Sean Lee. He doesn't. And I think David Irving would 168 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: admit that. I'm not trying to talk trash on him, 169 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: but he's a freak. He's a freak. And that's how that, 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: like line one is, are you a freak when it 171 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: comes to being a football player? Like that's line one, 172 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: and then the rest of that always falls into place 173 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: behind it. Uh, And that's I mean, that's why you 174 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: put up with it. It's a weird situation. But if 175 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: he does make his way back, they sure as hell 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: could use him when these games get more meaningful in 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But again, like next year, you're not, No, 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: that's your chances again, this was his other chance. They've 179 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: already done this with him twice. It would shock me 180 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: to see him get any type of long term I 181 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: had a deal here at a coach on the staff 182 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: tell me that he was he was just a little bit, 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: you know, just a few months away from just back 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: in the truck, you know, back and just loading up 185 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: the cash. He was going to get one of the 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: biggest deals there is. If he has a really good 187 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: year this year, he was going to get you know, 188 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be one of the highest paid defensive tackles. 189 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: Now he will probably be Um. He will, he will, 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, try to get his life in order in 191 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the offseason. I doubt the Cowboys resign him Um, but 192 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: it will probably be a minimum deal or and if 193 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: they if the Cowboys do, it would probably be another 194 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: one year, one year situation. But I don't think any 195 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: nobody in the league would do anything more than that. 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they would. So on the last 197 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's too bad you're in change. That is 198 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: so sad. It makes me so sad when you see 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: someone that just he has it. He was born with 200 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: the freaking talent and it just unable to use it. 201 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: And another thing that makes me sad is like Rico Gathers, 202 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: when you see someone different different things because it's very different. 203 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: But I'm saying Rico Gathers has the size and when 204 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: you look at that size, how much you can utilize 205 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: a guy like him. And we talked yesterday about using 206 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: the tight ends and in the red zone and all that, 207 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: and I kept receiving questions, so I thought maybe we'd 208 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: bring it up once again as far as the red 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: zone goes, And after seeing the how the tight ends 210 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: played last weekend, would you want to consider using them 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: in the red zone somehow, getting them involved and trying 212 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: to get the ball to them and possibly cashing in this. 213 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think he's the best option down there 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: for that if you're if you're going to really focus 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: on a tight end, because I think he's one guy 216 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: that can go up and get the football and you 217 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: know he presents a mismatch for you. Now, you can't 218 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: have a missed assignment on blocking and and you know 219 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: you can't. That's not a good place for a penalty, 220 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, or a missed block or miss block 221 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: or any ever that. But who decided to run the 222 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: ball down there? Right? But do you think the Cowboys 223 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: are kind of moving on from this because at the 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, we saw how many opportunities they 225 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: gave Rico in the red zone and it just never 226 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: really worked out for them. And then eventually we saw 227 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: that kind of fade out and disappear. I mean, one 228 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: thing has been pretty clear. And hate saying this, but 229 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: if a guy's wide open, either in the end zone 230 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: or streaking for the end zone, that's not Dak's favorite pass. 231 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: That's just not what he's gonna He's gonna overthrow Rico, 232 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: which is hard to do. You have to hit a 233 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: banner to overthrown him. He's overthrown gallop or underthrown a 234 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: couple of times. So wide open going to the end zone, 235 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: that's not his thing. But I say that because Rico 236 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: he was open a couple of times down there. And 237 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, was that New York the bad overthrow in 238 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. It feels like twenty fifteen, 239 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: it really, Yeah, that game against the Giance, Yeah, I 240 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: think it was New Yorker. Yeah, I think it was 241 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: second game. So hey, maybe maybe give it another try. 242 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: They need to try some things down there. This is 243 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: a good time to ring and he seems like that's 244 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: passes are getting a little better. Typically, typically you see 245 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: typically you see signs of those trends before they appear. 246 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: You know, like you could see even before he started 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: making plays. You could see Michael Gallops snaps trending upward, 248 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: and you could see them trying to do more with him, 249 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: And I don't get that sense from Rico, Like I 250 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: don't get the sense that they're trying to incorporate him 251 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: on some level, if I mean, if anything. Jarwin and Schultz, yeah, 252 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're not really big enough that 253 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I think of them as these like drastic red zone 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: mismatch guys. 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This is the second segment of 300 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: the break. It's a good point. Dave just made good point. 301 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean that wasna We've never had an 302 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: off the air conversation like that. That was good. They're 303 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Now, let's hope this report is good but 304 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: not so good at the same time, what do you 305 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: got to say about this Colts defense? This is easy, 306 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: ag because if you've ever watched the Cowboys play defense, 307 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: then you got it. It's over it's the same thing, 308 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: same thing. Matt Eberflus, where did he coach? He was 309 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: the dalla he was. He was just like Christopher shard 310 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: is the defense of coordinators, sort of behind the scenes. 311 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Eva Flus was the same guy here. He was a 312 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: passing game coordinator. He helped put the game plan together 313 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: and let Rod Marinelli worry about the rushman. So this, 314 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is four three Tampa two stuff. Obviously, 315 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean the personnel is a little bit different, but 316 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: this is the same stuff. Uh, Freenie's not there anymore. Freeny, No, No, 317 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Freeny's not there. Matthis isn't there. Gary Brackett's not there anymore. Oh, 318 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: I really know. Carrie Brackett was one of my faves, 319 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: like Bob Sanders. Bob Sanders would have been a Hall 320 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: of Famer if he could stay on the field. Um, 321 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: I have a pretty good young rookie linebacker. They do well, Okay, 322 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: do your thing. No, I mean, it's it's the same thing. Uh. 323 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: They're stout against the run. They're eighth and run defense. 324 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: They're not quite as good as the Cowboys against the past. 325 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: They're not quite as they're They're a little bit they're 326 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: not as good by just a little bit. Twenty three 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: points per game instead of eighteen. Uh, you know, fifteenth 328 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: against the past instead of I think the Cowboys are 329 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: sixth right now or something like that. Um, but they 330 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: want to get pressure with their front. They have athletic 331 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: linebackers and a young secondary full of draft picks and 332 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: sound pretty familiar. Uh. Darius Leonards is the guy. Uh, 333 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. I mean, he's a second round pick. I 334 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: think he was the fifty ninth pick or somewhere around there. 335 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: You guys loved him on the Draft show, Brian Brian 336 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: was absolutely in love with him. Yeah, you're yeah, they're 337 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: smart guys, Garrett. Garrett told us that he was like, 338 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: it's absolutely no surprise to us that Mattie Berflus wanted 339 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: this guy because he just fits what this defense is for. Uh. 340 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: He's super athletic, he's a tackling machine, one thirty five, 341 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five tackles. He leads the entire 342 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: NFL as a rookie and not a first round pick. Uh. 343 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: That's that's unbelievable to me, which and I didn't know 344 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: this because again I would argue the Cults are probably 345 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the team in the league that people just know the 346 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: let the least about. They got another linebacker by the 347 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: name of Anthony Walker, ninety seven tackles and ten for loss, 348 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: So he's the Jalen too, Leonard's vanderss. Seriously, I mean 349 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: it's the same stuff. There's not as much talent on 350 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: the on the really the rest of the defense, in 351 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, like I said, they're just a step below. 352 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: I circled this They've got so they got draft picks 353 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: all over their secondary. But you know, Okay, Malie Cooker's 354 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: a first round pick, but Clayton Gag Clayton Gethers. Their 355 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: other safeties of a fourth round pick, Nate Harriston, their corners, 356 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Quincy Wilson out of Florida's kind 357 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: of there, do everything. Nickel guy, he's a second round pick. 358 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's not as many resources or yeah, I 359 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: don't think so compared to like Byron Cheeto Jordan. You know, 360 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: these guys all being top one hundred picks, and then 361 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: you can tell their talent deficient up front because literally 362 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: only one of their rotation of eight guys or two 363 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: two of them is like homegrown talents. You know, they 364 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: got Marcus Hunt, who's a washout from Cincinnati, Nico Autry. 365 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that name? Which he might make 366 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? He might make the Pro Bowl. Defensive tackle. 367 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: They stole him out of Oakland. He's got eight sacks. 368 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: He's had five in the last two games. AFC Defensive 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Player of the Week. And then Jabal Shared is a 370 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: guy they got from New England. He's got five and 371 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: a half sacks. He's their best plays first name Jabal 372 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Jabal nice and pronounce yeah, allum, so it in my opinion. 373 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: And you know, just like we talked about the offense yesterday, 374 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: like they're clearly trying to revamp this thing. They're gonna 375 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: be signing and drafting guys with all that cap space 376 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: and their draft picks, but they're trying to make it 377 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: work right now with what they got and it's working 378 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: pretty well. Like they've got just as many sacks as 379 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: as the Cowboys have with thirty five. I think that's 380 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: the biggest difference. Mattieberflus without Rod Marinelli, seems like he's 381 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: more willing to bring pressure. They've been blitzing a lot 382 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: the last two weeks. They've got fourteen sacks in their 383 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: last four games. A lot of that is coming from 384 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: corner blitzes, slot blitzes. Darius Leonard blitzes like a madman. 385 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: He's got seven sacks that would put him at second 386 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: on this team. And see that's the big difference between 387 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: him and vander Rush. Vaneres has a lot of tackles too, 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't have any sacks and I and it works 389 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: for Rod Marinelli. I mean, the pass rush has been 390 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: good this year, so I'm not trying to knock him, 391 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: but he doesn't like to bring pressure like it's I mean, 392 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: I know they've they've done it at times this year, 393 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: they've done it at times in the past, but he 394 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: would prefer for his front to get all the pressure, 395 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: whereas it looks like I think Matt Eberflus looked at 396 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: his guys and was like, this isn't getting it done, 397 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: so we're gonna start blitzing. And it's it's working for 398 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: him to this point. That's the way to do it, 399 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: you know. And Eberflus knows this offensive line pretty well 400 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: and and he's gone up against it in practice and 401 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: he usually had Frederick and Martin and a better version 402 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: of Tyrant Smith and um now doesn't look like Martin 403 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: will play. We'll see, but it's it's gonna I if 404 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Connor Williams avers to a Philo and Joe LUNEI are 405 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: the three guys in the middle, and he likes the 406 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: blitz a little bit more that not only does he 407 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: like to blitz. That's the other thing too, is you know, 408 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: I don't think the Nico Autry is on on the 409 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: level of a Kawan Short, but we've or or Fletcher Cox. 410 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: But what we've seen what those type of players can do. 411 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: You talk about Zach Martin not being there, that's a 412 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: problem unto itself. Autry four yeah, four tackles, two sacks 413 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: and two and a half tackles for loss last ye. 414 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: It seems like if they're a team that blights to 415 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: blitz and gets some sacks, they typically don't have rank 416 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: eight overall and run defense, I mean it seems like 417 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: it's a very controlled type blitz, a good run blitz 418 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: type where you're you're not, you know, leaving yourself open 419 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: for a big run or big play there, and they 420 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: are I mean obvious. I always say this like I 421 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: trust the Cowboys to be able to run the ball 422 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: against anybody. But like, I don't those numbers aren't flukey 423 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: because since they started winning these games, uh, they've only 424 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: allowed like, they've only allowed one team to go over 425 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: one hundred yards as a team in the last five 426 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: weeks as a team. It's a team, So that's pretty good. 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: The other they're they're very opportunistic. They've got twenty one takeaways. 428 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: That's five more than the Cowboys have. This last game 429 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: against the Texans was the first time all year they 430 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: have not managed to take away in a game. That's 431 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty impressed. I looked it up for 432 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: the sake of comparison. The Cowboys haven't managed to take 433 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: away in three games. So they're all right. But the 434 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Colt these guys, they play opportunistic defense. They get picks, 435 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: they get fumbles, Um, and with Dad, I mean that's 436 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: not hard to do. Yeah, I mean at this point, 437 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: you know, I literally I'm posting a column right now 438 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: about how I'm I'm sold on Dak like for better 439 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: or for worse. Yeah, yeah, his warts and all of that, 440 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm sold. I'm I'm fine with it, Um, But you 441 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: can't I can't deny his ball security has been bad 442 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: for most of the last basically for this entire winning streak, 443 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: especially in the pocket, which is a album against a 444 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: good pass rush. Yeah, and we've seen how many fumbles 445 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: he's had, and he's been pretty lucky at getting the 446 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: ball bag. But last time last week, that's where it 447 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: didn't really work out. You know, they recovered it. The 448 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: fumbles that he's had, I mean, he I guess he 449 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: does lead the league in fumbles, but like that's not 450 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: that's surprising considering that he's been sacked almost fifty times. Yeah, 451 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess, so if you look at it, 452 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like just being tackled. It's being 453 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: tackled when you're looking up and you're about to throw. 454 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean, now, he has been fortunate to get some 455 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: of these fumbles back, but a guy that has that 456 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: many sacks is gonna get He's gonna fumble the ball 457 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, you're right, you're right, but I don't know, 458 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: just hold onto it on the ball. I mean, you 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: think that divisional game against the Packers two years ago, 460 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Heave hit Aaron Rodgers as hard as 461 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: you can hit someone in the bat. Miracle and it's 462 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: like that should have been a fumble and they recover it. 463 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Bailey goes right out onto the field and of field goal, 464 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: and they should win and go to the championship game. 465 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: It would have been my first intercity championship game. If 466 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: you haven't noticed that, Yes, I was in a lot 467 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: of other people here, so uh and he didn't he didn't, 468 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: he didn't fumble the ball, and then like that's I 469 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: don't know, that's a credit. It shocks me that these 470 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: guys get hit sometimes and don't full well. And that's 471 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that we make fun of during 472 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: the combine and it's the underwear Olympics. But like hand 473 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: size matters when it comes to stuff like that, like 474 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: if you can just palm the ball, and especially if 475 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: you've got two hands on it, and that's I'm not 476 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks coach, but that's why they always say, you know, 477 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: you got to hold it up here and give yourself 478 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: better leverage for when somebody comes to swipe that thing. 479 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: And if you you got both your paws on it, 480 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: and if your hands are as big as people would 481 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: prefer him to be, you at least have a decent shot. 482 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: And I don't know Dak's hand size off the top 483 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: of my head, but I think they're big enough that 484 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: he should be able to do that. I just think 485 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: you work on it a little bit. They're big because 486 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: one day he was at Dapodient Haun. Don't laugh. I 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: think you should wear a glove. He's non dominant hand. 488 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't. I actually like he has literally 489 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: had so many he and I'm not talking about getting 490 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: mauled by a guy and dropping the ball like. He's 491 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: had so many weird plays like the one where he 492 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of dribbled it to himself. And he's had a 493 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: couple of Aaron Brooks moments where he goes back to 494 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: throw and it comes out like I'm wondering if, like, 495 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: are his hands just sweating during these games? And like 496 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: maybe he should be wearing gloves. I mean, Ben Roethlisberger, 497 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: does it swear one on your non throwing hand if 498 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: you can't throw with one. I think it's so if 499 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: you're running with the ball, it gives you at least 500 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: a little bit better shot of holding onto it. I 501 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad idea at all. I will 502 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: pass that on to Dak and he will say, who 503 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: are you? Well, let me clarify something real quick. The 504 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: hand comment, I just saw him talking at the podium 505 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: after a game one day, and you know, he holds 506 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: the podium right here, and I was just looking at 507 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: it and I'm like, oh my god, they're big. Like 508 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: that's something that you don't really pay attention or like 509 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: see up close as far as like oh yeah, hands 510 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: from a quarterback. So it's crazy. But I wanted to 511 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: ask you about something else you mentioned the secondary being 512 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: pretty young. How do you see them playing against again, 513 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup and Mark Cooper just a Cowboys wide receivers overall. 514 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: I mean, again, this is the Dallas defense. I mean, 515 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: it's not the Dallas defense. Tampa defense goes back forever. 516 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: But they're gonna they're gonna limit the big play at 517 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Mali Cookers like your center fielder. I think, no, I know. 518 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he was the seventeenth overall pick. He is 519 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: a better safety in terms of like instincts and coverage 520 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: I think than the guys here. He's gonna be back there, 521 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: so they're good at limiting the big play. I think 522 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: there's plays to be made against these guys. Slants all 523 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: day long because if you're gonna blitz and you're gonna 524 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: eliminate the big play, that means the middle should be open. 525 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: But that's not where Dak has been great. I mean, 526 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: he could throw the slant, but we've seen some of 527 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: those interceptions middle of the field throwing the ball like 528 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: intermediate left side two picks in then game. I hate 529 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: to lean on this because we just saw them have 530 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: a good game for the first time ever. But a 531 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: nice day for the tight end. Would they carry that over? Well, 532 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take an early break this time. 533 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna get into game day 534 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: predictions since we don't have a show tomorrow. As far 535 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: as Nick and I, while the player could look good 536 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: on paper, it's when he's out on the field that 537 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: you really find out what he's made of. 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But I'm gonna 597 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: go with Cowboys here in a close, hard fought game 598 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: like I do do think this is a team you 599 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: got to look out for. Uh, Cowboys, wait, wait for 600 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: the roof open or not. I would be surprised if 601 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: they opened the roof. That may change Derek's Yeah, oh no, 602 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: it still comes down to Cowboys had hard fought game, 603 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: but give me Cowboys ninety did nothing. Yeah, I'm gonna 604 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: go back. I'm I'm gonna go back, and like has 605 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: he he's picked against them probably once this year. I 606 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: don't think you don't think so Cooys. Yeah, No, his 607 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: record is good for him. He knew it all along, 608 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: he did. Um, I'm going I don't know. I don't see. 609 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't see what the fuss is about with with 610 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: the Colts. And obviously their defense is pretty pretty good, 611 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: but I don't think that they're gonna be able to 612 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: score a whole lot of points. But I do think 613 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: it'll be a challenging game. You can't keep losing guys 614 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: on the offensive line and expect it's just gonna be okay. 615 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: So especially your best overall player, uh and Zach Martin. 616 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be a little bit of 617 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: a challenge. But I still think the Cowboys that they 618 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: just I think they've got a role in At this point, 619 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Dave actually put my score in. But 620 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: I got I've got the Cowboys doubling up the Colts. 621 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: So you picked the score. So doubling up the Colts 622 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: based on these teams, I'm saying that means they win 623 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty to ten. Okay, sounds good. I was gonna thirteen something. 624 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: But other than twenty to ten, if you're gonna double 625 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: somebody up like the in a football score, it's hard 626 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: to come up with an You know, they're not gonna 627 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: win twenty one to eleven, are they? Or twenty twenty 628 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: two to eleven? Sorry my bad, I can't do math. 629 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Twenty four to twelve, I doubt it. Yeah, twenty eight fourteen, 630 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: I guess there you go. All right, twenty to ten. 631 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds good. What about you, Dave Um? 632 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: I sort of agree with Nick, like I, on paper, 633 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't see what the fuss is about. But if 634 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: you watch them play like the defense is swarming. They 635 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of young talent, they're confident, they're at home. 636 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: Maybe most importantly, they need they need it. They're fighting 637 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: for I mean they're you know, they're two. Yeah, they're 638 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: fighting for their lives, which and the I mean, the 639 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't clinched anything, but they have a nice little 640 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: cushion that they've built here that they don't need this 641 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: game quite as bad. I think desperate team theory comes 642 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: into play. Having said all of that, like basically what 643 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying is this game gives me an uneasy feeling. 644 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: But I'm too convinced by everything the Cowboys have done 645 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: these last five weeks. And I don't think the Colts 646 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: are so good that I'm going to bet against them now. 647 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, like if they were playing if they were 648 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: playing the Saints or the Rams, I'd probably i'd pick 649 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: them to lose. But this Colts team is scrappy but flawed, 650 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: and I just think the Cowboys ought to be good 651 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: enough to sneak out of there with a win. I 652 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: do not think it'll be comfortable. Yeah, does it concern 653 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: it has been a while since the Cowboys have played 654 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: away from home. Yeah, we know the struggles they had, 655 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: but at the same time, they did not have him 656 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Mary Cooper. They were they were terrible on the road 657 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: before group, But when in the two games they played 658 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: since they got him, they beat the Eagles and the Falcons, 659 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: which were those games comfortable for anybody? No? They were not. 660 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: None of these five games. No, and that I expected 661 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: to continue. I think luck Luck can beat these guys. 662 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: He can make some plays on this defense, but they 663 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: don't run the ball that well. And that's that's my thing. 664 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think they can be I got I 665 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: got Cowboys winning, uh twenty twenty to sixteen. Here we go, 666 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: nice a nice, ugly score, a score that implies a 667 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: lot of field goals and uh, tense finish, because that's 668 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 1: probably what's going to happen. Okay, you got, Um? Mine 669 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: is simple. I picked the Cowboys. I'm in they They've 670 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: sweetened me up. I'm riding with them all the way. 671 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: And I think it will come down to like an 672 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: extra point or something like that, like just one extra point. 673 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: They'll make it in and they win the game. Every 674 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: every noon window in the NFL has at least one 675 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: berserk finish. I mean, you know, the last time this 676 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: team played at noon was Atlanta game winning field goal 677 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: at the buzzer the Dolphins and the Patriots what they 678 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: just did the other day? Uh, I mean the Colts 679 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: and the Colts and the Texans played a frantic finish 680 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 1: the other day. And so that's that's what's gonna happen. 681 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: It'll be I looked this up for my column, actually, um, 682 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: and now I forgot. I think eight of the eight 683 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: of their thirteen games have been at No. Ten of 684 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: their thirteen games have been decided by a score, and 685 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: six have been in doubt in the final minutes, and 686 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: four have been decided on the final play of the game. Wow. So, 687 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're expecting anything other than stress, you're 688 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: probably Wrongston Detroit, Houston, Detroit, first Washington game, and then 689 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: this Eagles game. No wait, No, so five is Atlanta too? 690 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: Houston Detroit, Atlanta, Billy games? Watchline'll play the game. Yeah, 691 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: that's nuts, even by the Cowboys standards, which also for 692 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: my column. Did I tell you this? I know, I 693 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: told Brian so Philly was my ninety sixth regular season game. No, 694 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: my ninety sixth game that counted between regular season and playoffs, 695 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: covering the team, thirty seven of them have been decided 696 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: by a score or less or like you know, been 697 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: close at the finish. So the playoff game on January 698 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth will be your one hundredth game. That 699 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: sounds right? Yes? Nice, I hope it's the sixth. I'm 700 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: in a wedding on the fifth. Oh yeah, we've talked 701 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: about this, but yeah, a third of a third of 702 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: the time this team plays. It's stressful. Okay, that's crazy, 703 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: no doubt. Now let's answer some Twitter question. I seen 704 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: several people asking about this same topic. But do you 705 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: guys think that the Cowboys will end up losing Chris 706 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: Richard during the off season and if so, what will 707 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: happen to the defense? Are you guys concerned that that 708 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: would be that would really affect the defense and what 709 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: they being able to accomplish so far. Well, I think 710 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: it would be a tough loss, but I don't know 711 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: any other way around. It really just depends on how 712 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: things finish here. Um. You know, with each game and 713 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: each win, it you kind of wonder about Jason Garrett's um, 714 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: you know future. I mean, I still think that. I 715 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: know I've said all along this season that that I 716 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: thought that Garrett needs to be in the NFC Championship 717 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: game or win a couple of games in the playoffs, 718 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: or he probably won't be back. But every season's different, 719 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: and the way this thing has gone right now, it's 720 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: like you wouldn't think that they would make a change there, 721 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: and that's really the only way to keep him. I 722 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: say all that because that's we're the only way to 723 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: keep Richard. You can't make him the defensive coordinator or 724 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: all that. If he gets offered a head coaching job, 725 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: then he'll, oh, he's gonna go for it. But that's 726 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: that's I talked to him. And when I talk to 727 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: him by that training camp, he I mean, I asked 728 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: him basically that's in question, like are you wanting to 729 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: be a head coach? Like without hesitation, He's like absolutely, 730 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, he's here because you know, the Dallas 731 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys are very visible and they're gonna be on TV 732 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: and they're gonna show him, and especially if he gets 733 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: in a fight with an other team before a game. 734 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: I will say this though, and I mean, barring just 735 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: a complete collapse, I can't imagine that Jason Garrett doesn't 736 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: keep his job. But that I think, yeah, that's a 737 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: good thing for your odds of keeping chrispher Shark, because 738 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: he can only he can only leave for a head 739 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: coaching job, right. I mean, the Cowboys don't have to 740 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: let him out of his contract to go be somebody 741 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: else's coordinator, right, right, right, He can only only leave 742 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: your contract for head coaching job, right. And I know 743 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: we think the world of him. He's done wonders for 744 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: this defense. But you got like you kind of got 745 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: to take a step back too. Is is one season 746 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: in Alice as the co defensive coordinator enough to get 747 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: you ahead? That's what I just said, Durst for you 748 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: like you, you know him, you like him, You've watched 749 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna get in the room with somebody 750 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: for an interview. It's possible. Is he gonna lose it 751 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: in that room? Probably not, And he's gonna win it. Gosh, 752 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: just the way he carries himself and the way the 753 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: things that he says. I mean, I will hire him 754 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: in my only point being, but there's there's only so 755 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: many what there'll there will probably be eight openings or 756 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: something like that, and that's not a lot of openings. 757 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of talented coaches at the NFL 758 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: level college football coaches, um, and it's a I mean, 759 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: it's a big job to give to somebody. So and 760 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not betting against Christoph Shard. I'm just saying 761 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: one year in Dallas, it might it might not be 762 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: enough to sway some people that he's ready for it. 763 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how many years in his contract. They 764 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: don't release those, but typically coaching contracts or two or 765 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: three years. He's certainly gonna get interviews because he's deserving. 766 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: I'll just say that he is absolutely deserving, and he'll 767 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: get interviews. He'll also get interviews because he would be 768 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: you have to interview an African American and he would be. 769 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be right at the top of the 770 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: charts for anybody that has a vacancy to interview him. 771 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: But I'm saying that because he's absolutely deserving. Yeah, but 772 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna get in a room. I just can't. I 773 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: can't see him losing the job there. So they say 774 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: all that, let's just say, I don't know, two and 775 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: one here down the stretch, whatever, Cowboys, fourth seed, they 776 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: win the division, get the hats, all that stuff. Seattle 777 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: comes in. So two and one, ten and six, ten 778 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: and six finished, ten and six, finish the the NFC 779 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: Eacht Championship. The fourth seed. You play Seattle, you lose. 780 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: You didn't play well. Highlighters came in, they beat your russell, 781 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't tackle him. They beat you a low scoring game. 782 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: They beat you thirteen to ten, and you're out. All 783 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: this excitement, all this finish the fight, all this stuff 784 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: and you've lost. Ye, very possible outcome may not he 785 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: may not be the head coach. It's possible because right 786 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: now it's five game winning street. You know, you're at 787 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: the top of the roller coaster here, Like, allow, this 788 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: is great, but if it doesn't end in a favorable way, 789 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 1: especially after a one and done, because I know there 790 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: were some unhappy people when they lost for the Packers 791 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: two years ago after thirteen and three, So if that 792 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: happens again, I don't think it's it's a guarantee because 793 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: what we've seen right now is good. It's gonna if 794 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: it's not a super Bowl, it's gonna end in a frustrating, 795 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: disappointing way. And I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, no, 796 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's possible to envision a scenario where you 797 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: make the playoffs and people are just freaking furious that 798 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: the way it finishes. I mean, yeah, what you just described, 799 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know the answer, Like I wouldn't 800 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: be surprised either way, Like, okay, yeah, you lose to 801 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: the Colts, then you win the last two, you win 802 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: the division, you play Seattle and you play like crap 803 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: and you lose. I wouldn't be surprised by either outcome. 804 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it's like, let's run it back. 805 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we get a new offensive coordinator, maybe we promote 806 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: Chris Richard and we're good. Or yeah, maybe it sucks 807 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: so much that you blow the whole thing up and 808 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: then I just I love to say, there's only like 809 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 1: two or three people in the world that can answer 810 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: that question, right. I think the best scenario for him 811 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: that doesn't include a Super Bowl victory is you gotta 812 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: win that first game. You go to the Saints or 813 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: the Rams, probably maybe the Saints, and you gotta compete, 814 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: You gotta, you gotta, you know, ball out in that 815 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: game and have a good showing. If you don't beat 816 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: the one or two best teams in the league on 817 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: the road, I don't see them really making a change there. 818 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: But I think I think if whatever it is, if 819 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: it ends in a in a shocking slash disappointing way, 820 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: because losing is going to be disappointing, but in a 821 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: surprising disappointing fashion, I don't think that's good for the coach. 822 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: As long as you don't for lack of a better phrase, 823 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: like wet the bed, which and I mean, you know, 824 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: you're thirteen and three, you won eleven games in a 825 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: row and you lose your first game. People would describe 826 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: that as wedding the bed. Yeah, well, you know show 827 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: I deal with that a lot lately. And hey, you 828 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: gotta have patience. You got a three year old. Yeah, 829 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: so don't yeah, don't come out to bed. Don't come 830 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: out and play terrible in the first playoff game. Like 831 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: that's that's a bad idea that talks when you start 832 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: saying like the when you talked about the two different 833 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: scenarios and possibilities, and when it comes out down to 834 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: like the whole wiping out the whole thing. I don't 835 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: really understand that whole concept. And I know how if 836 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: you bring a certain head coach or whatever they bring 837 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: in their staff that they want and all that, but 838 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: why would you wipe out let's say, someone that has 839 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: actually done some positive things although the end outcome we're 840 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about, Garrett, No, I'm talking about like, let's say 841 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: different positions, which well, position coach, there's no guarantee of 842 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: that first of all, which this week is a great 843 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: example Matt Eberflus signed an indie to be Josh McDaniels 844 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and he went back to New England. He 845 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: bailed on them. They hired a new head coach, and 846 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: they're like, ah, we still, well, we'll keep Eberflus around, 847 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: Like we can do that. So it's yeah, I mean, 848 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: in a scenario where another coach came in here, like 849 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: he could opt to try to keep Christirah Shard and 850 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: christ Shard could hang around here. But yeah, the answer 851 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: your question is because coaches want to work with who 852 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: they want to work with. It's like, Chris, you're really 853 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: great and YadA YadA, but you run Seattle's defense and 854 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: I want to run Yeah, the Jets defense. I mean, 855 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: it's what I mean. So I'm trying to think of 856 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: an analogy. But you want you want the people that 857 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: make you feel comfortable with what you want to do. Yeah, 858 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: and if they don't fit that, then you can go 859 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: somewhere else. We'll have to keep waiting to see what 860 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: it really happens in this offseason. But in the meantime, 861 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: we have a game against the Colts this weekend. Let's 862 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: hope the Cowboys come out with another win and yeah, 863 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: the guys Dave nine o'clock tomorrow. I haven't robbed Nate. 864 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this show. Brian. Basically, when I got 865 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: here this morning, he was like, we're gonna fight for 866 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: an hour, like so nice. That's the attitude he's gonna. 867 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna, yeah, we're gonna have some good spear fight 868 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: with someone on their birthday. Sure you do it, like 869 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: not fight fight Like. He's not gonna punch Briant all 870 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: day yesterday. It'll be fine. He fights with me all 871 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: the time. Anyways, he's gonna have a hat right here 872 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: on on Monday if they if they win this game, 873 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: we'll get one. We'll steal one from somebody. That would 874 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: be dope. Yeah, they'll have championship hundreds of them. Yeah 875 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 1: all right, Well, thank you guys so much for tuning 876 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: in once again. For Nickiman, David Hellman, and Bergarcia. This 877 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: husband Cowboys Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This 878 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 879 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.