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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our final hour here live from the

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Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. I'm Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson, except no others as imitation.

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Speaker 3: More hour and then we're on the road back home

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Speaker 3: to watch the combine.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely beginning of the look here like Omar Khan is

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Speaker 2: not going to make it over to us today. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's going to happen. But he did speak yesterday, uh,

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Speaker 2: and I was part of those conversations. Uh. And he uh,

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Speaker 2: he said that basically, you know, he's asked obviously about

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Speaker 2: the quarterback situation, and he said, look, we're gonna explore

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Speaker 2: all avenues in terms of acquiring additional quarterbacks. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: he said, we keep three every year, you take four

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Speaker 2: to camp. Ye, and we're going to have We've got

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Speaker 2: one under contract, so yes, we're going to We're going

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Speaker 2: to explore all options. We've had those conversations internally, and

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Speaker 2: he said, that's that's my that's my job. That's what

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Speaker 2: we do. It's it's we can't just say, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: just gonna draft two quarterbacks and be happy with it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna go into free agency, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: make this trade and you're not. They're not going to

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Speaker 2: say that stuff. But he did say I still very

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Speaker 2: much believe in Kenny Pickett as a starter. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith likes Kenny Pickett, and I want to see

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Speaker 2: what Arthur Smith can bring out of Kenny Pickett here

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Speaker 2: in year three. And at the same time, he said

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Speaker 2: for Mason Rudolf. He says, look, they we've we've told

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Speaker 2: want to go out and explore their options, because why wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: You're two weeks away. Oh it's yeah, knocking on the

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Speaker 2: Right, you're right here. You might as well go out

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Speaker 2: and see, you know, wait, what else is available? Maybe somebody,

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Speaker 2: maybe somebody was bowled over by what what Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 2: like he's the answer. You don't know if you're Mason's.

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Speaker 3: Or they want him in the mix, or to be bored,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers would, or who knows. Frankly, if you've been

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Speaker 3: listening to Drive, these are kind of what we've been

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Speaker 3: I don't see any shocking statement or anything that he said.

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Speaker 3: It just kind of affirms exactly how we thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: that they do still have a lot of hope for Picket.

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Speaker 3: We had a really good conversation earlier today with Paul

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Speaker 3: Klehursky right next to us talking. You know, he's a

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Speaker 3: Titans guy who's talking about Tannehill and his ability to

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Speaker 3: mentor and what he's like as a person, as well

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Speaker 3: as Arthur Smith's scheme with with the Titans and what

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Speaker 3: fits quite well with where Picket's at. I think Rudolph

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Speaker 3: I think there's some other names like Prissette that are

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Speaker 2: I don't expect it either, because they're going to give

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Speaker 2: People are at people are acting like the book has

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Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of good things from Kenny. Are

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Speaker 2: there things that he has to improve on? Absolutely? Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's saying he's a finished product. Some people are acting

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Speaker 3: And in the circumstances, I think it was fair to

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Speaker 2: But you're not signing You're not signing a Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I don't think bringing him in here because you're not

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Speaker 2: don't care what or whose rankings you happen to look at.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's ranking Russell Wilson higher than fifteen yeah right right

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Speaker 3: Eighteen right right now. They all have their questions, and

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Speaker 2: Whereas that's what they see with Picket, like, okay, we

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm and they have stuff invested. But he's not

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Speaker 3: not concerned with the cap situation. No, deep down, I

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Speaker 3: think Kenny Pickett's gonna be the starting quarterback in Week one.

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Speaker 3: But there's gonna be a name in camp. I mean

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Speaker 3: is can you Yeah, it'd be nice to draft one,

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Speaker 2: And how many teams played more than two quarterbacks last year.

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Speaker 3: It's funny we mentioned that we were hoping Omar was

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Speaker 3: no one's ever heard of. Yeah, they played so much anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a nightmare. I mean, they're the perfect

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Speaker 3: Tomlin would handle this just fine. The whole world's calling

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Speaker 3: He was more than adequate. You hope those guys aren't out.

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Speaker 2: There like the argument that it might be Mason Rudolph, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Roethlisberger that one game that he was a backup? You

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Speaker 3: But he also explained himself, as my job is to

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Speaker 3: Persett has done plenty of that. That wouldn't be Rudolph's role.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think the relationship between those guys

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, but I do think they're going

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Speaker 3: But he is a You want another safety to get

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Speaker 3: Here, Yes, yes, I like the group of safeties a lot.

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Speaker 2: Also in the news today is that Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 3: Wow, because he might only could have won.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, right, More and more, when the team

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Speaker 2: that you're not allowed to do it. It's in April.

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Speaker 2: he is not Andrew Luck. Now he is not a

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a very good prospect, but he's If

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Speaker 2: That, Well, okay, then I'll take Daniels maybe, But.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean if you already well, I get you

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Speaker 2: Not going to trade to pick though, if you if

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Speaker 3: Unless you went to like three right, right right, This

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Speaker 3: implies to me that the Bears and Williams know they're

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Speaker 2: That's that's the assumption that Caleb Williams is working on

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Speaker 3: I think I think him and the Bears must think

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Speaker 3: there might be something medical that he doesn't even know

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Speaker 3: For Maurice Hers had a heart issue. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to get poked in prodube by

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Speaker 2: I just don't know that he is a surefire slam dunk.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear that? You said the Harrison decision? He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think if you're the third receiver you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those things happen, but he's not gonna do anything.

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Speaker 3: But I was asked the other day that do you

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Speaker 2: Now you're putting you're taking yourself, and you're putting yourself

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Speaker 2: There's a couple going to do that in your locker

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Speaker 3: Else, right, especially after has some success and a lot

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Speaker 3: It worked out for both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just it to me, it just sends

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Speaker 3: It's like I forget who was classing showing up a

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Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, how that

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Speaker 3: Not so great golden boy coming to them, say the.

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Speaker 2: Day, imagine trying to do that at say, oh, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, with all the transfers, all the stuff, and

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Speaker 2: Transfer state idea. The transfer stuff is interesting in that,

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Speaker 3: Some teams will never say anything bad about a player.

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Speaker 3: They'll tell you all the information. The liaison. I was

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Speaker 2: That's why I got the Browns job.

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Speaker 3: But the liaison is in charge of all the NFL

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys might say he's the greatest thing ever

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Speaker 3: Teammates weren't big on this about him. But he's a

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Speaker 3: to be the wild West time. They'd be like the

434
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Speaker 3: COVID years and the transfer years were a really odd

435
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Speaker 3: time in scouting.

436
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Speaker 2: Playing six and seven years of college football.

437
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and finally next year we're out of the whole.

438
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Speaker 3: There won't be any more COVID a nation.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness, guy, You know, I hate I'm watching

440
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Speaker 2: a player and I really like the player, and then

441
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Speaker 2: I start looking into him. I'm like, oh, well he's

442
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty five, no wonder he looks like he's

443
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Speaker 2: a boy, a man playing with boys.

444
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Speaker 3: Yes, if he's a guard and he's twenty five years

445
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Speaker 3: old against a nineteen year old, yeah, he should probably win.

446
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Speaker 2: It used to be you just had to worry about

447
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: that with like the b YU guys. Well now it's

448
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Speaker 2: you know.

449
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 3: Everybody, right, So after this year it gets a lot cleaner.

450
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Speaker 3: There's still the transfers and that stuff, but it won't

451
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Speaker 3: be the age discrepancies. Absolutely, and a lot of people

452
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Speaker 3: think the bottom of the draft will go back to

453
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Speaker 3: being better. Last couple of years have been bad at

454
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Speaker 3: the bat.

455
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Speaker 2: I think the bottom will get deeper next year. There's

456
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Speaker 2: some normalcy. Yeah, the nil has changed as well. I

457
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Speaker 2: don't beggruds those guys making some money.

458
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Speaker 3: No, and that's really hurt the juniors coming out. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 3: why if I go back to my senior year and

460
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Speaker 3: make money maybe when national title, maybe increase my stock.

461
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Speaker 3: That's a lot better than making nothing and rolling dice.

462
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, or you know, I I've got nothing. Yeah, now,

463
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Speaker 2: at least I've got something in the bank. At least

464
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Speaker 2: made something risk, soth wil Let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: He is De Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lolly. You're

466
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Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and

467
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We are live from the NFL Scouting

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Speaker 2: Combine here in Indianapolis, and we will be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after.

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Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage up twenty twenty four NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: Live from Indianapolis on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollie. He is De Matt

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Speaker 2: Williams and you. We are live here at the Indian

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Speaker 2: Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis for the Scouting Combine. What's

475
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Speaker 2: going off with my microphone? Anyways, we were talking to

476
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Speaker 2: kick off the last segment before we went down the

477
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Speaker 2: rabbit hole and all the other stuff about Omar Kahn's

478
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Speaker 2: media availability yesterday, and we asked very far on that.

479
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Speaker 2: He was asked about many other things other than the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Then the one question.

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Speaker 2: Yeahah, obviously that dominated the conversation a little bit, but

482
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Speaker 2: as one would expect, but he was also asked, for example,

483
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Speaker 2: about Cam Heyward's situation. He is. Look, first of all,

484
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Speaker 2: Hayward tweeted out on social media, put out on the

485
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Speaker 2: social media on Instagram or whatever, that he had a

486
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Speaker 2: surgery okay recently, and Omar said, look, we you know,

487
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Speaker 2: we want Kim back. We want him to be a

488
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Speaker 2: part of this. We're not interested in moving on or

489
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Speaker 2: anything like that. We've talked about that right in a week,

490
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Speaker 2: he said, but we have to you know, we know

491
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Speaker 2: he's going to be thirty five. We've got to be

492
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Speaker 2: smart about how we handle this. So you know, he

493
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Speaker 2: doesn't need to take a bunch of practice snaps in

494
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Speaker 2: OTA sessions or training camp sessions. In fact, he could

495
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Speaker 2: probably teach the defense to everybody else. That's great.

496
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Speaker 3: I mean we've seen less and less from him in

497
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Speaker 3: those types of situations, which is smart. And I would

498
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Speaker 3: think this year you really almost say I don't even

499
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Speaker 3: need you in training camp period. I mean maybe some

500
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Speaker 3: individual stuff.

501
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Speaker 2: That it might even be during you know, he was

502
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Speaker 2: taking days off throughout the season. Obviously, he was dealing

503
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Speaker 2: with multiple injuries. Last coming off a big injury, coming

504
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Speaker 2: off a big injury. Uh, you know, if that's more

505
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Speaker 2: the norm, I'm okay, with on Sundays.

506
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Speaker 3: Right, and if it becomes a problem, if the week

507
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Speaker 3: after week he's not the player he was maybe a

508
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Speaker 3: ramp it back up, but I think you go in

509
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Speaker 3: with bubble wrap in mind.

510
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Speaker 2: But the other beautiful thing about that is something that

511
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Speaker 2: they were able to do with Ben Roethlisberger as well

512
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Speaker 2: when he got later into his career. You know, when

513
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Speaker 2: you bring in you have younger guys there, use those

514
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Speaker 2: practice reps for those guys exactly exactly know, Yeah, and

515
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Speaker 2: they benefit from it. He benefits from the rest. And

516
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Speaker 2: he's also coaching them up to some degree. Yeah, I'm

517
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Speaker 2: sure he's going to be involved. He'll be right on

518
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Speaker 2: top of them, even if he's not in pad that day. Yeah,

519
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: he's also that's a great way of handling it. He

520
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Speaker 2: was also asked about the Nausea Harris fifty year option

521
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Speaker 2: that they you know, they they'll have to decide by

522
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Speaker 2: early May if they're going to pick that up. He said,

523
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Speaker 2: you know, it's we have to talk about Arthur were

524
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Speaker 2: with Arthur Smith about that. If he fits off it stuff.

525
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Speaker 2: I have to believe that's a yes.

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Speaker 3: I tend to think so too. I mean, the only

527
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Speaker 3: small stumbling block I could even envision is Smith does

528
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Speaker 3: run a lot of outside zone and that's not Nausey's specialty.

529
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Speaker 3: But I think you've probably had this conversation before he

530
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Speaker 3: was hired, and I bet he's run less outside zone

531
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Speaker 3: and it's not that nag he can't do it either,

532
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 3: you know, and the price tags very friendly.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He was also asked about Broderick Jones and being

534
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Speaker 2: a left tackle, and he said, you know, we feel

535
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Speaker 2: Proderck Jones is a left tackle. You know, he started

536
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Speaker 2: at right tackle this past season, but we drafted him

537
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Speaker 2: to be a left tackle. Eventually he's going to be

538
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Speaker 2: our left.

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Speaker 3: Tackle, which I'm fine with. I mean, I know players

540
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Speaker 3: want to be a left tackle. There's a little bit

541
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Speaker 3: of distinction there. There's a little bit of prestigiousness there.

542
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Speaker 3: That's not even a word, but prestige. Prestige, That's what

543
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Speaker 3: I was looking for. The issue you as currently constructed

544
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Speaker 3: is Dan Moore seems way way happier on the left side.

545
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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin was asked about that at this season end

546
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Speaker 2: impressed conference. Is said, you know, could you could those

547
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Speaker 2: two guys flip flop? Could Dan Moore go to right tackle?

548
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Speaker 2: And project chions go to left tackle. He said, well,

549
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Speaker 2: Dan Moore's way better on the left side. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it makes me think you are in the market

551
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Speaker 3: for a right tackle. Yeah yeah, I mean, all of

552
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Speaker 3: a sudden, there's the starting right tackle might not be

553
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Speaker 3: on the team.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And well there's a few right in the draft,

555
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: a few right tackle prospects in this draft.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be sitting there around twenty two. I

557
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Speaker 3: think that's a really appealing spot. Of course it could

558
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Speaker 3: be another direction. But I think if I put a

559
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Speaker 3: chip down on March first, what position would the Steelers

560
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 3: pick at twenty would be a tackle? Yeah, I mean

561
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Speaker 3: it's rare to have this choice, so you grab it

562
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Speaker 3: in a right tackle. Yeah yeah. So which the guys

563
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 3: in this mix are pretty much all right tackles. Just

564
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Speaker 3: so happens, just so happened. I mean, Alts could play.

565
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Speaker 2: He's not gonna be Steeler, yeah, him and him and

566
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Speaker 2: uh Sean Sean who I'm not even counting. But the

567
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 2: other guys are much more right than left. But if

568
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Speaker 2: i'm if I'm looking at this group this year, and

569
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: now you start to hope, Okay, could could uh you know, Layton,

570
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Speaker 2: that would have been wonderful. Could could he be a Steeler?

571
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, I think the chances are, you know, the

572
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: more prohibit that is he might go eighth.

573
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so does that You know it used to be

574
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Speaker 2: the left tackles always went higher. Is that still the case?

575
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Speaker 2: Slightly but not really. Yeah.

576
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like Penney sul was a left tackle, he

577
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: turned the right and he's probably never going back. Yeah,

578
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: he's one of the best two or three tackles in

579
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: the league. It still exists, but to me, it's not

580
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Speaker 3: going to stop. I know the Bengals are need a

581
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Speaker 3: right tackle. There's plenty of teams, the Giants, there's plenty

582
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Speaker 3: of teams that right tackles as big a need as any.

583
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Speaker 2: I mean, ideally, if if Latham or for Waga are there,

584
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Speaker 2: you just you just go.

585
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Speaker 3: Turn one right, Yeah, you just go turn it in

586
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: and we'll see what they think of they're plugging play guys. Yes,

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 3: in terms of being ready week.

588
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: One, I think if it's Mimes or Giton, we're both

589
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: also right tackles. You think they could take like a

590
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: Broderck Jones past. That might take some time, Yeah, agreed,

591
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Geydon looks they both look like left tackles, but they

592
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: both have only really played the right right, but you

593
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: want them on the right, so it's a difference. Yeah,

594
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: even if they have a left tackle skill set in

595
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: terms of their agility guiding, to me, is not a

596
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: glass eater right tackle type like a Lathem is. Oh

597
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: he's huge, hes right, I mean usually so much to

598
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: work with that. Usually your your right tackle is the

599
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: bigger guy because you're gonna run behind him more often

600
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: than That's why to me be fine with any of

601
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: those as much. And I think there'll be two or

602
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: three available. You know, Broderick Jones wants to be a

603
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: left tackle. I get it, but he's such a good

604
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: run blocker.

605
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: The thing is, let's say you take mimes or guiding.

606
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: Does Broderick Jones start to season it right and more

607
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: is your left until those guys are and then you

608
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: make two changes which I don't love or that becomes

609
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: the problem. Or do you sign a right tackle to

610
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: four million a year that you.

611
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 2: Can't see going that route?

612
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: That's that's a total placeholder, Yeah, you know what I mean,

613
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: like better than the Raven Clark type. Yeah, I don't

614
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: think that's where you spend your money.

615
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the first round pick and a first round

616
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: pick yet, right, I don't think that you you already

617
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: have placeholders on your roster. Damn Moore is the placeholder?

618
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Maybe? Do they like Dylan Cook enough that he could

619
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Speaker 3: be the week one starter until round one guy get

620
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: is ready?

621
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: That seems like a leap of faith.

622
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

623
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Speaker 2: Now you're now you're you're benching your left tackle to

624
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: move your your right tackle over and you're inserting a

625
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: young guy into that spot. Right, So that's the that's

626
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: the puss'sking.

627
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: A lot of broaderick though, It'll be like, hey, I

628
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: want you to play right tackle until the first round

629
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: pick is ready.

630
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing though, So last year, if you remember,

631
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: throughout training camp, Roderck Jones rarely took snaps on the

632
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: right side. It was all on the left.

633
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: Side, but he got in certain lineup. I was really

634
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: shocked that they plugged.

635
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Him on the right side right because he hadn't really

636
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: done it.

637
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: We watched all those snaps. He was never a right tackle, ye,

638
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: which shows how immensely talented he is. You know that

639
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: he was as good as he was as a rookie.

640
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: That's a position always struggles as a rookie on the

641
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: wrong side.

642
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the idea is to get your best five on

643
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: the field, regardless of how you do it.

644
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: So I'm really interested in it so far away, but

645
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: first mini camp up until does he just take all

646
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: reps at left tackle? You know, at this point of

647
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: his career, is he practicing to be a left tackle

648
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: for the next twelve years? Yeah, and you'll just figure

649
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: out right somewhere along the line, who knows.

650
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you you know, you look at it.

651
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: They don't have a guard that could bump out or

652
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: there isn't a real placeholder in the mix right now.

653
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: You look at some of the other guys that are

654
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: available there. I mean, maybe a Blake Fisher if you

655
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: if you let's say you go let's say you go

656
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: center or cornerback in round one. I think Fisher is

657
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: more of a third round pick, and and it's coming

658
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: out of that. It'd be really nice if Dan Moore

659
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: could play right though, Yeah, because if I can't just

660
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: throw a third round pick in there and say you

661
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: are starting to right tackles sink or sweat, that's the problem.

662
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to spend money on one either. Yeah.

663
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: So where you make first, I get it, You make

664
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: that that third round tackle is your project, and you say, Okay,

665
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: we're not planning on playing you all year long. Damn

666
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Broderick's you're right, Dan Moore is the is the left

667
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Broderick's right, And you make that move next year?

668
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess you could, or mid season

669
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: if there's an injury, or if.

670
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: There's an injury, then you make to make the switch.

671
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: But otherwise, you you know, you stick with that plan.

672
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little unfortunate that more seems like a

673
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: left tackle only yeah in this instance, because eventually he's

674
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: probably just your two and maybe can't even the swing

675
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: guy if you're right guy gets hurt partly.

676
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: Again the problem with with him and we say that,

677
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: you know, and Mike Tomlins says, well, he's better on

678
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: the left side than the right because of how things

679
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: broke his rookie year. If you remember that train that

680
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: training camp, but that was during COVID we're at the

681
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: stadium the entire time. The idea was that was that, uh,

682
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: the battle was going to be at right tackle between

683
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Zach Banner and Chooks a core for and so they're

684
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: they're just they're just playing him at at at the

685
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: left tackle because Zach Banner got hurt. So now you're

686
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: you're down to uh, you know, just chooks a corps

687
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: four there. Banner's not in the equation. And then when

688
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Banner did come back and they wanted to switch, they

689
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: moved to a corps for to left tackle.

690
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think how that went.

691
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm along like a day and a half, okay, And

692
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: then Banner got and they and they took and they

693
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: put Dan Moore at right tackle with the second team.

694
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And then Zach Banner got hurt again. Well,

695
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: the rookies played all he's gotten all of his snaps

696
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: of the left side. Let's move him back over there.

697
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: And a core for had been your starting right tackle,

698
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: so put him over there. Oh, it'll be interesting.

699
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if they draft a Mims or a Geiten

700
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: or Flogg is probably different because he's just you're the

701
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: right tackle.

702
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: He's plugging. Fine, Yeah, I think I think you might

703
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: have to do that with mems are gitened. I think

704
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Latham and Fawog are plug and play guys. Yeah. I

705
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: haven't even mentioned Latham anymore because I think he's so

706
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: gonna be on the top ten. They can't all go

707
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: into top ten. So if if Forshanho and and Uh, I.

708
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: Think for Shaw, who could fall a little.

709
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: I think he could too, because I don't think he'll

710
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: test tremendous here. So at what point if you're the Steelers,

711
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: because I think there's a little bit of a gap

712
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: between those two guys and the Guitans and Mims, whereas.

713
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: I think my gap is less than yours.

714
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: I think those two guys are plug and play. But

715
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: there's the other availability early is it's not you're not

716
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: going to You're not going to just plug them in

717
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: the right side and say, Okay, Broderick, you're the he're

718
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: the left tackle.

719
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: Well, let me throw another thing at you here, because

720
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I Daniel Jones mocked the Washington kid to the Steelers.

721
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you just put him at right tackle? Potentially?

722
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean if if you're not looking at but he

723
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: was a left.

724
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: In college as well, Yeah, yeah, right necessarily going to

725
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: be a left in his skill set to me implies

726
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: more traditional right than left. The key for him is,

727
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, what's what is his arm length going to be?

728
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: That's six four, He's a little shorter, but if his

729
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: arms are long enough, if.

730
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: It's not bad maybe he's also one more name to

731
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: the mix. Found you have a third right, right, right, right?

732
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean he's ready to go now, although it's a

733
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: position change, but he'd have a lot of time to

734
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: make that position.

735
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: You have the entire offseason to work on that. And

736
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: to me, I mean it doesn't work out.

737
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: James Daniels a free agent, he might be the right

738
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: guard to you're after, right, you know, that's why DJ

739
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: put him there, is like he's going to be a

740
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: starter for five years somewhere.

741
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. My question is that if one of the if

742
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: at what point, if those tackles could do what happened

743
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: to go off the board early, do you do you

744
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: think about making a jump up like they did last

745
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: year to go get one of those guys who were

746
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: the plug and play guys as opposed to the guy

747
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: that's going to be a developmental guy. Yeah.

748
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: But from whatever, I think it's different than last year

749
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: because the fourth guy last year, I don't remember even

750
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: who it was. If we don't conquer scarnsk.

751
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: It was he went to Jacksonville, the Oklahoma.

752
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: I thought there was a massive gap there though, I

753
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: mean I thought there was three really good tackle prospects, right,

754
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: Johnson Jones where this one maybe they aren't as plug

755
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: and play. Mims and Giten to me are still phenomenal

756
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: prospects that I'd rather trade back and take one of

757
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: them than trade up to get the third guy or

758
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: the fourth guy. But four in the top twenty, I

759
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: mean Mims is the or Yeah, No, Latham is the

760
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: one that maybe i'd trade up for if he's there

761
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: at fifteen or sixteen.

762
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, wow, we did a mock draft, uh

763
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: you know, pre uh two weeks ago where he fell

764
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: to twenty, and I'm just like, there's your pick. That's

765
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: an easy one. That's an easy one.

766
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, is I don't think he's as easy

767
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: as that. I think you could have a conversation of

768
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: Faggo versus Guiton versus Mims, even though he is closer

769
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: to playing now.

770
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: I think I like him all a twelve year starter

771
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: in the league and uh no, I like them all

772
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, but I could definitely see I could

773
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: see any order. The question then becomes, especially if they

774
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: work out. If you're the Steelers and let's say you

775
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: have those tack those four tackles rated highly, including the

776
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Washington kid, but then you have that a little bit

777
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: of a gap between the other plug and play guy. Uh,

778
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: after those guys, these guys mims and and Geiton aren't

779
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: plugging play guys or Jackson power Shotson.

780
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: And see again, if I'm putting a hip down on

781
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: the first day of March and no one gets hurt.

782
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 3: I think your Week ten starters from left to right

783
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: are Jones, Ciamalu, free agent center, Daniels first round pick.

784
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: But how you get there could be rocky, which is

785
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 3: how we've talked about for the last time.

786
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: After the past two seasons. I don't know if I'm

787
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: ready to. I wouldn't you like to hit the ground

788
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: running a little bit because you're gonna have a new

789
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: offense here as well. It's gonna you have to feel

790
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: feel like that's gonna take a couple of weeks to.

791
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean, the more we talk through this, I think

792
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: this is why you pay your offensive line coach. You

793
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: get your first round pick ready for Week one, and

794
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: you help them, you know, yeah, you keep Darnot Washington

795
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: on that side or you know here you help them.

796
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting how that

797
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: works out. But I do believe as we sit here

798
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: on March to first at the combine, Steelers first round

799
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: draft pick is if I had to put money down on,

800
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: it would be an offensive lineman. Me too, me too,

801
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: it would be I think the corner classes much deeper

802
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: in terms of the day.

803
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: Two guys would be suitable. Yeah, now go so far

804
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 3: as say tackle too. I mean, but an offensive lineman,

805
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: I'd feel very comfortable, very comfortable.

806
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, extremely So we're gonna get to another break.

807
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: He is the more Williamson. We got one more segment

808
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: left here on the show at Gerard da Schaeffer. Very

809
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: happy about that. But we are live at the NFL

810
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. He's Matt Williamson. I am

811
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Dale Lolly, and we will be back with more on

812
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh and Steelers Nation Radio right after this.

813
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Speaker 1: Live. I'm about twenty twenty four NFL combine.

814
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Speaker 2: These these Steelers Nation Radio, welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

815
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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williams, and this is the drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. And we

817
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Speaker 2: are coming to you live from the NFL Scout and

818
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Speaker 2: Combine here in Indianapolis and the uh wrapping it up?

819
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: We are wrapping it up here. How do you look

820
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: at Graham Barton at a duke in that conversation center

821
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: only guard only six, five three fourteen, like, you know,

822
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: he's he's you might have two needs, you might have

823
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: two needs.

824
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a top twenty player though, Yeah,

825
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: that's a trade down.

826
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: He's a solid prospect. He's a solid prospect.

827
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: That's interesting because again we were talking to Dane and

828
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: we were and I mentioned, I'm like, yeah, but you know,

829
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: unfortunately he's going to be not there in the second

830
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: round of the Steelers. I can't take him in the

831
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: top twenty. He's like, yeah, I totally agree. But then

832
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 3: he said he easily could still sneak in the first round.

833
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: And I mentioned to him, I was like, you know,

834
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: like the Niners, the Niners have four spots on their

835
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: road line where they need help. I'd be thrilled if

836
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: I got him as a nine, right, you know, maybe

837
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: he's my right tackle. He's right talking somewhere. Yeah, So

838
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: if you don't have a center signed, or it's a

839
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: cheaper one, or someone that's got to slam dunk, and

840
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: you tried Barton at right tackle in untill he failed,

841
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, with the backup plan being center or a

842
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: year from now guard, he's gonna help you. But the

843
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: problem with that plan is I think then you need

844
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: to sign the right tackle, which I don't want to

845
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: do because what if he fails, Well you still have

846
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: Dan Moore, but he has to go to right or

847
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: I guess Broderi could go Okay, yeah, I mean I

848
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: guess that's the plan.

849
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's the whole machinations of this offensive line.

850
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: My thoughts are though, like, from now, what the what

851
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: are the Steelers telling Broderick to practice right now?

852
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: Left or right? He's not practicing anything right now.

853
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: He's doing something. I mean, he's he's workings, he's doing

854
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: his own stuff or you know, I mean he's you know,

855
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: you're working I have a left, left tackle stands, a

856
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: right tackle stance.

857
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: I'm telling them both say, because you just don't know

858
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: right now, you don't know anything. Yeah, you know, so

859
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: right now all he's doing is working on his foot

860
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: speed or working on you know, his strength.

861
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: Jabe and all that stuff. Okay, I would just love

862
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 3: for him to know what position he's playing.

863
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Well, he'll know when they open OTAs. I mean, he'd

864
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: probably know after the draft, he'll know exactly where he's

865
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: going to be lining up at. We've got another month

866
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: here before and he'll know exactly where he's going to

867
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: line up at.

868
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: Maybe they're comfortable enough that because they the fact they

869
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: threw him in the right and he was so good,

870
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: and maybe they're comfortable enough to say he may not

871
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: have to practice like crazy'd either one. You know, we're

872
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: just gonna throw him in and he's still got our

873
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: best guy possible. So if you drafted Barton, would you

874
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: start him?

875
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean would he depends on what I do in

876
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: free agency here? Yeah, you know, if I sign a center, Okay, Graham,

877
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna work at right tackle. If you don't do anything,

878
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: he said, Graham, you're gonna work at center.

879
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: He gave him to me today. I know the world

880
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: doesn't work that way. Yeah, then I'm eliminated my center

881
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: need right. I'm just say you're a center, right, You're

882
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 3: a center right, But I'm not sold.

883
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: The other things that Omar talked about, and he mentioned

884
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: it multiple times yesterday Omar Khan the Steelers GM when

885
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: he spoke, was how much he values position flexibility on

886
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: the offensive line.

887
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: They seem to have a little less of that than

888
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: they have in the past. That's a team. I mean,

889
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: I think Tomlins stressed that for years and years two.

890
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: There's not many guard tackles or tackle se or you know,

891
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: there are some guard centers.

892
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: I think they have more flexibility than some other teams.

893
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Daniels is a center, if Herbig's a center

894
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: or able to do it or willing to do it

895
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: or can thrive doing it. But Moore's only a left Yeah,

896
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't know Barton, it would be a very versatile

897
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: piece that would help somewhere. Yeah, I doubt he'd be

898
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: terrible at right tackle.

899
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: I just don't know that he's one of those. He's

900
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: not one of those twenty four guys that are sure

901
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: fire first round picks.

902
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I mean I would need

903
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: a nice chunk in a trade down. Yeah, you know,

904
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: a nice but that all picks the availability and I

905
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 3: draft to right tackle my third the Harris Kid or somebody,

906
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: you know.

907
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: What I mean. The availability makes this. You know, if

908
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: I if I get an extra third round pick out

909
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: of it.

910
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, and then I'm drafting the Yale kid.

911
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Too. Maybe I draft two cornerbacks too, or you know,

912
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: now I get my inside linebacker.

913
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get a bunch of Day two picks.

914
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Doesn't look bad either, Yeah.

915
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: That are going to fill in some needs and make

916
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: my team younger and cheaper and cheaper. Yeah. Yeah, So

917
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: it's all different ways to God's fun part of this

918
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: whole process.

919
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 3: It's fun. I've written off Barfield and I've written off

920
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: I always get his name, the Washington tackle.

921
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: Excuse me, a first round pick.

922
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, just and they both

923
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: have positioned versatility. I just don't know that they're in

924
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: the mix for the Steelers, but you would find a

925
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: spot for them. Yeah, you know, they'd be one of

926
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: your best five, which isn't the worst thing in the world.

927
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: Now, my laptop was acting up something fierce here, and

928
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what the deal is.

929
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: It's a bottom of the ninth. You don't need it.

930
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. We just talked our heads here. I

931
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: don't need to see what's going on in the world.

932
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: That was always our problem when we used to do

933
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: the shows at training camp. If you remember when we

934
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: were down by the gate, oh, where all the fans

935
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 2: come in at and we couldn't the Wi fi didn't

936
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: work down there. We're doing a you know, two or

937
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: three hour radio show with no access whatsoever to anything

938
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: that's happening out in the outside world.

939
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: Right or any articles or databases or things we use.

940
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: Like we start talking about something I want to go to,

941
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: like I can't look this up, Like what's the height

942
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: of way to get guessing Let's just take a minute

943
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: here for this thing to reload here.

944
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: But it's been a good week, Matt, No, it has.

945
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: It has.

946
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: The buzz around here is great. It sounds ludicrous, But

947
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: we'll get a nice ride home and I will watch

948
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: Combine tonight, like I feel. I always feel like I'm

949
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: watch any of it last night because we don't have

950
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: it at the hotel. Yeah, I'm having a little bit

951
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: of an issue with my foot here, and so I

952
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: walked to the closest place to eat last night and

953
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: they didn't have it on there.

954
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: So I'm watching it on my phone. Yeah, I'm sitting

955
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: at the you know, sitting there as I'm eating and

956
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm watching Guys Run on my phone, Like.

957
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: I remember most year, as we find in the bar.

958
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: I say this every year, though, like probably in the

959
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: last day that I've been at the combine for four

960
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 3: nights now, and I feel very behind on the combine.

961
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of lose track of everything else that's

962
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: going on, because if we're not here on the air,

963
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: which we've been four hours a day, you're walking to

964
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: and fro. It's not a close walk.

965
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: And there's walk a bowl in the first couple of days,

966
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: there's no events. Right when they hit, they hit like

967
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: a tidal wave, and I'm scrambling. So when I get home,

968
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: I'll buckle down to my lazy boy and I'll just

969
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: watch and watch and watch. And I like to hear

970
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: the commentary too, And you know.

971
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: That's why I like to like walk around and listen

972
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: to the guy's talk. I may not necessarily be writing

973
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: anything about that particular player, or if I hear something

974
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: that's interesting, I might right about it, but I just

975
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: want to I want to see how they handle questions,

976
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: how they do those kind of things. So I'm psyched

977
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: to watch it.

978
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll go back and I'll start with the

979
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: defensive lineman tonight.

980
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: So it used to be here that the biggest question

981
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: that was asked to everybody who was asked to every

982
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: single guy, Hey, did you visit with the Eagles? Did

983
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: you visit with the Saints? Yes? They visited with everybody.

984
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: With everybody, with everybody. Right, it's almost a bit at

985
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: this point, it really is. Well.

986
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: Now they've also let some apparently let some TikTokers or

987
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: something in here, and they're shooting like trying to get

988
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: viral videos over there, guys talking about the one. I

989
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: think it was a defensive back or a wide receiver,

990
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember. Because asking if he believes that if

991
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: the the Earth is round, I mean, come on, what

992
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: are we doing here? This isn't Yeah, that's not what

993
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: this is for. And then and then you know, people

994
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: wonder why they like players, Oh, they.

995
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: He because this week hasn't been hard enough.

996
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Autum. They all that stuff in as media guys, and

997
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: they aren't media.

998
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 3: They're not the same. They're not the same. Right, they're

999
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 3: not credentialed with a team type guy.

1000
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: Covering the league and covering football. You know, I don't

1001
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't care necessarily. Who's who you know? Who's your

1002
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: favorite superhero, philosopher? Superhero? Right? What kind of animal would

1003
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: you like to be?

1004
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: And he asked these guys, a bunch of questions, someone's

1005
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: going to say something goofy, and then I got look,

1006
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: I got it, I want it right.

1007
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're trying to do there, and it

1008
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: strives me nuts. I remember, like when Jared Goff came out,

1009
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: I think he said it wrong, but he didn't know

1010
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: if the sun set in the west or the east

1011
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1012
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: Like, you know, how many questions he's asked, and you know,

1013
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: all day, every day.

1014
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: And one comes out of your mouth wrong, and that's

1015
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: all anyone remember, Like, just leave me alone. You know,

1016
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: it's just you get fifteen minutes with these guys when

1017
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: they're on the podium and you're wasting time asking how

1018
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: many different teams they visited with every thirty two of them,

1019
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: I've talked to everybody. Yeah, I've talked to everybody, right,

1020
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: and and then you know stuff like that, just you know,

1021
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: you can't do anything substantial on a guy when those.

1022
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: Player answered nonsense right and goes by pretty quick.

1023
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: They've tried to get the teams away from asking those

1024
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: kind of questions of players. Okay, you know, hey, you

1025
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: know if you could be what's your spirit animal? Come on, man,

1026
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: all right? You know They don't want teams asking questions

1027
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: like that anymore, not away from that, and now.

1028
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: You get ask them who is the best receiver they

1029
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: ever played with? Or you know what, something football related,

1030
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: or boy, you had an interesting history growing up in

1031
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: foreign country, how's that influenced your life?

1032
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: And whatever? I mean, just something matters, more substantial things

1033
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: I want. You want to learn more about the player

1034
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: as opposed to what his spirit animal. Yes, you know,

1035
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: I know Wes Is is a you know, a rabbit, chipmunk,

1036
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: that's his spirit animal. But oh yeah, it's getting late

1037
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: in the yeah, so uh yeah, we're winding down here, Matt.

1038
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: And it's been fun. Yeah, it's a lot of good

1039
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: guests on the shows this week.

1040
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: A lot of fun, right, yeah, a lot of fun

1041
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: talk thanks to all those guys.

1042
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Learn some stuff, definite stuff. Yeah you start to.

1043
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: Uh and we're back at it monday, right, we are back.

1044
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: At it Monday. We'll get home and kind of digest

1045
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: this whole thing. It might.

1046
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be a lot of combin stuff to

1047
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: discuss what they do on the field and heights and

1048
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: weights and more.

1049
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: My uh, you know, my my big board again here

1050
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: and start looking at triple takes coming up here. We're

1051
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: gonna start breaking these positions down starting this this week actually,

1052
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: yeah week coming, we start righting this weekend, so start

1053
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 2: start putting those together and getting getting a better idea

1054
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: of how my board breaks down and those kind of things,

1055
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: as will you in like pursued as well. Yeah.

1056
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's a couple of positions that are non Stealer

1057
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: related that I haven't really something right, including quarterback.

1058
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll get to do more of that here

1059
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: in the in the coming weeks here, and of course

1060
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: you continue to follow all of our great draft colored

1061
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: coverage on Steelers dot Com here on Steelers Nation Radio

1062
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: as well, where we get all we do is talk

1063
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: and Steelers. Of course, that's what we do year round

1064
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: on these very airwaves. But that is going to do

1065
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: it for our time. Another week in the books, but

1066
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: absolutely another week here, another combine in the books, how

1067
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. Absolutely had a lot of fun, learned

1068
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, and ate a lot of bad food.

1069
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 2: It was tasty bad food usually is that's the problem.

1070
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: But that's going to do it for our coverage here

1071
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. The group effort that we had

1072
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: here with Wesley Euler, Arthur Motes, Max Starks, Jerry Dulec,

1073
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: of course, my partner Matt Williamson, and I'm Dale Lolly.

1074
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: We thank you for listening all week long to our

1075
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 2: coverage here live from the NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis,

1076
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Fox Sports Pittsburgh