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Speaker 1: dedicated to you, nigga's and knees hose. That's my new intro.
Speaker 1: You like it, I like it you nigga's and knees hose. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's me Tim. Hey, y'all, I'm a niggah at the
Speaker 1: same time, So this is all. This show is a
Speaker 1: hyd it's a hybrid, it's a whole red, It's a
Speaker 1: me Marie ho. Hey, y'all. I love y'all. Thank y'all
Speaker 1: for tuning in. Man, Hey, j hey girl, we're going on.
Speaker 1: How was your weekend? Ship? What are do this weekend? Oh?
Speaker 1: My god, baby turn one this weekend like such a
Speaker 1: lit party for her. It was really an adult party, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like she was sleepy the whole time with the party honestly,
Speaker 1: and we was just drinking. We had like cocktails, you know,
Speaker 1: name for her and it was such a good time.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun. I was all down bad.
Speaker 1: I stayed in the bed all day Sunday because I
Speaker 1: had I was lit Saturday for one year, shame party.
Speaker 1: That's how it be. For the kid's birthdays, sho turned
Speaker 1: to the adult party after six. Yeah, it was adult
Speaker 1: party from the time it started. Shame Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 1: What you do this weekend? Yeah? Remember I told you
Speaker 1: last he goes into Atlanta this week So that's what
Speaker 1: I did all weekend. Oh yeah, drinking and smoking and
Speaker 1: all of all. Had a whole ship you could think of. Okay,
Speaker 1: no three SOMs and no ship like that, but all
Speaker 1: around ship, y'all can think of tomato, tomato, all about
Speaker 1: had the whole ship y'all could think of. I was
Speaker 1: doing it and my body shut the funk down. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: y'all noticed. I've been canceling a lot of flights. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's been flying recently, but about the
Speaker 1: grace of God, I made it home. My flight was
Speaker 1: a laid, not canceled, and I just sucked up my day.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Airport is terrible. First of all, it took me
Speaker 1: an hour to get through security. Just ruined my whole ship.
Speaker 1: But all in all, it was a good trip. That's
Speaker 1: my That was my birthday celebration for the most part.
Speaker 1: So I hung out with my home girl. We ate
Speaker 1: a lot of good food. One thing about Atlanta, The
Speaker 1: motherfucker's got some good food in Atlanta. There's so many restaurants.
Speaker 1: If you open a business there, that ship is gonna
Speaker 1: thrive because Nigga is gonna show up. Every place is
Speaker 1: packed all the time. You haven't you haven't in at
Speaker 1: the steakhouse called House mhm. They have really good food.
Speaker 1: It's a vibe. And if you're looking for a white zaddy,
Speaker 1: that's where you go. Ladies. Okay, the white zaddi's getting
Speaker 1: off of work, but they button up and slacks there
Speaker 1: in there. The golf players, they in there, so all
Speaker 1: the working girls. Yes, I mean like it's a two
Speaker 1: floor house. H a l postri apostrophe s it's two
Speaker 1: floors full of white daddy's. Did you get one? No,
Speaker 1: because I was in there with a black zaddy, So no,
Speaker 1: I got no white daddy I was looking for. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was good vibes, great vibes. Yep, that sounds like fun.
Speaker 1: I might get me a steak and some white meat
Speaker 1: on the side. Just joking, guys, let's get into stupid
Speaker 1: internet news child. What we got going on this week.
Speaker 1: It's a slow week, you don't think, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: So apparently the reps from Ripley's Museum is coming for
Speaker 1: kim K because y'all remember she where she wore um
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monrose famous tear drop, a little diamond, little number,
Speaker 1: a little strappy dress for the mat Galla this year,
Speaker 1: and they posted pictures online and how it had a
Speaker 1: few of the beads the bedazzled missing off of it.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how old is this dress? Fifty years,
Speaker 1: sixty years old or some ship? Kim K went on
Speaker 1: a strict diet to lose weight to even fit the dress.
Speaker 1: First of all, she got in it and it got
Speaker 1: some damage. You know, That's what happened when you wear
Speaker 1: ships sometimes, that's what happened when we wear old ship
Speaker 1: like that, that ship, this drift store at this point,
Speaker 1: dry rot at this point. Imagine you all trying to
Speaker 1: come for her about that ship. Yeah, like, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's dumb. Like, listen, don't let her wear the
Speaker 1: dress if you didn't want it to be you know,
Speaker 1: potentially ruined. Like and yeah, why you want to wear
Speaker 1: a dead woman's dress anyway? Why do you want to
Speaker 1: wear that dress. What type of goddamn conjuring where you're
Speaker 1: trying to do that night? Why do you want it?
Speaker 1: I knew, I thought we might be able to go
Speaker 1: one episode when the cat I just don't want to
Speaker 1: give the people a different perspective. This is a wild
Speaker 1: world we're living in, right, y'all. Don't realize how time
Speaker 1: speeding up, should is just getting crazy and crazy and
Speaker 1: crazy at every fucking day. Why are you wearing this
Speaker 1: dead woman's dress? Is like? To me? So you won't
Speaker 1: wear a dead woman ship? No? No, I would define
Speaker 1: Houston's fur right now. I would do a replica like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would? I guess I respect the dead
Speaker 1: a little bit more, I guess, so i'd wear a
Speaker 1: replica of it. Did she need to wear the actual dress?
Speaker 1: Mail and Meroe or to me, Kim Baby, yeah you
Speaker 1: you you're not that I fucking conic man comes. No,
Speaker 1: Kim is iconic now, I don't think so, not for me,
Speaker 1: not to me as iconic as Marilyn Monroe. Are we
Speaker 1: going to be having the posters of Kim King on
Speaker 1: our wall thirty years from now? We won't, but maybe
Speaker 1: these the young people might. I don't think so I
Speaker 1: just don't think so okay, she might be then she
Speaker 1: might be the starlet of our time. I can see Beyonce,
Speaker 1: but we also know we already know that Kim can't
Speaker 1: even sit with Beyonce. I can see to some people,
Speaker 1: Kim Cass said, would Beyonce? You like beyonce new song?
Speaker 1: I love the lyrics. It's not the beat and all that,
Speaker 1: but the lyrics of it. I'm not Drake and Beyonce
Speaker 1: came out with like house music this week, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I need to be like rich and doing
Speaker 1: cocus something to be listening to get some Coke sniffed off,
Speaker 1: asked on the back of a boat, everything right exactly?
Speaker 1: Every time? I like, I was listening to Drake's album
Speaker 1: earlier at work and I was It made me think
Speaker 1: of that episode of Martin what was the white character
Speaker 1: and they was having that party in the inst the phone.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh my good, things are going really
Speaker 1: well right now here. WHOA that's was listening to that album?
Speaker 1: Why the fund does WHOA go at? Coke would be like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to score some blow? Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: got any blow? I like those larrics though, for Beyonce
Speaker 1: that ship, like that motherfucker said, quit that job. Don't
Speaker 1: be letting people stress you out. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: that's what our our generation in particular, that's what we're on.
Speaker 1: I mean, I liked the song, but I'm not just
Speaker 1: putting it on in the car and ride down this
Speaker 1: for me, I don't I mean beating all that. I
Speaker 1: literally listened to the song for a maybe a minute,
Speaker 1: and then I just read the lyrics because that's what
Speaker 1: resonated with me the most, not not really the music.
Speaker 1: My getto asked, need a bass drum? I need a
Speaker 1: bass drums? You need them eight o eights? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need that in the back socket? No that you know,
Speaker 1: that's no, that's the devil. Right. Oh, here we go. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: I just want y'all to just be knowing stuff all right,
Speaker 1: y'all know, like pro tools is what they're using the studios, right.
Speaker 1: Pro tools was created by the government. Back in the day.
Speaker 1: All our music was acoustic. We played instruments. It's just
Speaker 1: a different frequency. So now that eight o eight, that
Speaker 1: drumbeat we love so much and wrap fucking music, it's
Speaker 1: a problem. This is why you addicted to that ship
Speaker 1: and that's why niggas be Papa pills. Listening to on
Speaker 1: the Way to kill somebody, our ancestors. You played drune.
Speaker 1: That that's what I'm saying. They played real drums. They
Speaker 1: weren't playing mechanical drums off of a computer with a
Speaker 1: fucking evil last frequency coming through. But yeah, and y'alla, yawn,
Speaker 1: it's real, man changed the music change to people. That's true.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate this song because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a good it's a good frequency here. You guys, you
Speaker 1: know where I can score some blue. But look, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and get into the main topic. Y'all
Speaker 1: listening today, We want to talk about black hair and
Speaker 1: black women, uh, in relation to their hair. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a major, it's a big thing. It's a big
Speaker 1: thing for black women. Okay, please don't touch my ship.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't see me, but I'm about to put my
Speaker 1: hair in the chair beside me because it's hot them
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. Right now, let's go to commercial. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back and we'll get into it. Okay, Well you're back, y'all,
Speaker 1: and let's guess what. I got. Two of my very
Speaker 1: best friends on the show, and we're talking black hair
Speaker 1: with them, and one of them I've known since I
Speaker 1: was a little girl, and we started doing each other's
Speaker 1: hair like as kids, fucking each other's hair up. And
Speaker 1: then one of them I'm known for at least seven years,
Speaker 1: and I've been doing her hair the whole time, and
Speaker 1: I love them both very much. Thank you all for
Speaker 1: joining us today, Thank you, thanks for the thanks. So Stacy,
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a little bit about yourself. Hi everyone,
Speaker 1: I'm Stacy Mitchell. I've been the hairstyles for twenty one years,
Speaker 1: but I started way before then, about four years old,
Speaker 1: playing her Barby's. Um, I love it? Can you think
Speaker 1: of anything else I want to do? And you still
Speaker 1: love it? I still love it, but I give myself
Speaker 1: break so I can continue to love it. M that's smart.
Speaker 1: That's smart smart. And then uh to me can introduce yourself. Hi,
Speaker 1: Tamika down but yeah, um but from Virginia living here
Speaker 1: in Charlotte now, um, you just happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us a bit. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think most styles I think I've probably been doing here
Speaker 1: since first grade, but I never got my license to
Speaker 1: do here because I cannot stand the customer service aspect
Speaker 1: of dealing with black women, and they fucking here, Okay,
Speaker 1: did you do a bit here on Thursday and see
Speaker 1: her ass on Monday? She unless I'm nigga pulling that
Speaker 1: ship all weekend and now you ain't did it right.
Speaker 1: So that's the fact. That's a fact. The customer service
Speaker 1: aspect is trying at times, and sometimes it does make
Speaker 1: me want to quit, Like, you know what, funk these bitches.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking y'all cut my hair and make it a
Speaker 1: little longer, dumb assh it like that, Like how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cut your hair and make it look longer, bitch.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it can be like crazy with black women
Speaker 1: in our expectations for hair stacy, have you do you
Speaker 1: have any experience with that? Like what your customers like?
Speaker 1: What do you do? You know? After so many years,
Speaker 1: I've tried to figure out the best plan for that,
Speaker 1: and I really just over the liver and under sell it,
Speaker 1: like if I know there's a possibility things won't turn out.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be really upfront about it. But I
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of problems like that anymore.
Speaker 1: I promise I have gotten it down to a science
Speaker 1: where bitches just be happy all the time. Well, they
Speaker 1: know upfront, like I can't make a miracle, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about it before and they're always pleasantly surprised
Speaker 1: after I try to make it work. You can't just
Speaker 1: make blonde hair out of blue black hair, you know,
Speaker 1: and one day, but you know, you gotta just let
Speaker 1: them know you might be a little redhead for a while, right,
Speaker 1: unless it's a week at we would throw that ship
Speaker 1: on top and you could be blind, right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: try to be honest as much as possible because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I mean, they respect the
Speaker 1: honesty in my opinion, Tama. So you're one of my clients.
Speaker 1: Do you have any any gripes with me? As a
Speaker 1: hairstyles for you, I'm speaking for the for the clients. Now,
Speaker 1: we had heard from the stylus, so we'd be put
Speaker 1: the customer from We'll be leading it on y'all down
Speaker 1: because you know, let us be five minutes late. You
Speaker 1: you're texting your calling and you're on your way. I
Speaker 1: just sat there with you. Yeah, I want my way,
Speaker 1: So I did you know, I guess it's on both
Speaker 1: sides of the spectrum, Like you know, give and tape.
Speaker 1: Sometimes y'all get on my nerves and sometimes you get
Speaker 1: on y'alls with the purpose side of it, because I
Speaker 1: can't really say this with you tame me. But I've
Speaker 1: had other stylists where I'm they literally triple book and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there waiting two hours on top of my
Speaker 1: appointment time, you know, to get my hair done. And
Speaker 1: if I would have did the same thing, if I'm
Speaker 1: freaking thirty minutes late, you canceling ship, you you're blocking me.
Speaker 1: You trying to me a seventy five dollars to try
Speaker 1: to book with you again. You know, sometimes sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like starting this need to be a little bit
Speaker 1: leanent when it comes to Sometimes life happens, sometimes we
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit late, and then sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: we love y'all, so sometimes when on y'all day off
Speaker 1: and we see a cute hairstyle, like I wanted she
Speaker 1: could do this, and I get it, that's y'all time,
Speaker 1: but y'all forget that that relationship with us so we
Speaker 1: can feel like we can do that. I literally like
Speaker 1: Sunday night, like you like this, No, this not right now.
Speaker 1: I don't like that right now? And I try to
Speaker 1: slideing in and now I'll try to slide it in
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll be having a good conversation. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I've seen this, and she catch you on,
Speaker 1: like bitch, you'm off, like shi, yeah, we do to that.
Speaker 1: We get spoiled, like you guys really be trying, and
Speaker 1: I get it. Y'all need your days off to peace
Speaker 1: of mind. When you talk about here today and we
Speaker 1: talked about so, and you know what, And in your defense,
Speaker 1: some of these stylists have gotten outrageous with the rules
Speaker 1: and the expectations of their clients, like come with your
Speaker 1: hair wash, come with your hair braided down, so with
Speaker 1: in yourself and then I'm a curly foot and yourself
Speaker 1: how to do all that? I don't know how to do.
Speaker 1: But I can't bless my own stuff down. Oh in
Speaker 1: my experience, I tried to say, hey, I can squeeze
Speaker 1: you in if you sha't put your own hair, and
Speaker 1: that's the only way I can get you in, and
Speaker 1: they come with the greasiest I'm like, never, I don't
Speaker 1: trust my clients and sha't p with their hair. I
Speaker 1: shampool their hair and so it can flow and be
Speaker 1: soft I just can't. But also what you're saying to
Speaker 1: Maka about silence with their grace peer is and running
Speaker 1: behind and stuff, I mean it is. It's a slippery
Speaker 1: slope because if you have a stylist that's on time
Speaker 1: and wants to be on time and respects and never
Speaker 1: makes you wait, then and she's gonna be on time
Speaker 1: with you. That means if you have a dinner appointment
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock, you can make that appointment. But and
Speaker 1: everybody wants that, you know, you want to be in
Speaker 1: and out, and that's great. But then if she's that
Speaker 1: type of stylens and never like runs behind, then she
Speaker 1: can't squeeze you in because she has to stick to
Speaker 1: a schedule. So it's always a catch twenty two with it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like be on time or take me
Speaker 1: whenever I need you to do me. You know, it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Oh yeah, I didn't think about it like that.
Speaker 1: Or it'll be like you was late, but it don't
Speaker 1: even be the stylist. It will be like somebody who
Speaker 1: was before you was late, right, and I allowed them
Speaker 1: to come late, and now it's pushed my whole day back.
Speaker 1: But now to you as a client. You're late as
Speaker 1: a hair stylist. It don't matter what else happened. So
Speaker 1: now they're like, but you was late this time, So
Speaker 1: now I'm a hundred minutes late today. You know it's
Speaker 1: but I don't charge for that. I'm not one of
Speaker 1: you know those people like fifteen minutes late, you start
Speaker 1: paying twenty dollars for every five minutes late after that.
Speaker 1: I just that's unfair. I feel like that's unfair practice.
Speaker 1: It can get out control. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's unfair.
Speaker 1: And sometimes sometimes I'm late just because I ain't shore.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I ain't even gonna lie. Sometimes I'll be sleep. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been on the other end of it. I went
Speaker 1: out my eyebrows micro blading, and I didn't engage the traffic,
Speaker 1: and she was like, let me see if I can
Speaker 1: move my next client. If not, I can't take you.
Speaker 1: And she politely kept my deposit and could not take
Speaker 1: me because I was late, and I had to respect
Speaker 1: it because when can I do? You know, she told
Speaker 1: me up front it was tough that I ate that
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, but yes, dollars is a lot to eat. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was my deposit. No, I'm refundable. I had a
Speaker 1: bit trying to fight me over her deposit. In turn,
Speaker 1: for real, she was put she pulled up outside. I
Speaker 1: was like, girl, given you wanted to talk, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: fine because I've been in the gym. Get your ass
Speaker 1: just locked the door, right, So let's talk about our
Speaker 1: childhood and our hair, like our relationship with our hair
Speaker 1: as kids. Like, did y'all feel like your hair was
Speaker 1: beautiful as a child where you brought up in a
Speaker 1: household where there was emphasis on your hair and the
Speaker 1: beauty of it. M I would say, no, Um, it
Speaker 1: was basically good hair and bad hair type thing with
Speaker 1: you know, she got good hair if her hair was
Speaker 1: you know, a certain way and straighter, or it was
Speaker 1: a bad hair. So um, I don't think growing up
Speaker 1: we really embraced our hair like we do now, which
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Like my daughter she you know, she will
Speaker 1: rock her natural hair. You know back then when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, it was like oh no, like yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like relaxed, textorized. This is that you know,
Speaker 1: if you had any type of kink in it or
Speaker 1: any type of wave, you had bad hair. Right, So
Speaker 1: say me and Stacy, I remember what sixth grade, we
Speaker 1: were doing each other's just for me, what was what
Speaker 1: was that permit? A box stream and nature, whichever one
Speaker 1: was four dollars and ninety seven, burning the ship out
Speaker 1: of our heads because it was not learning it was
Speaker 1: right right. Yeah. So I'm the youngest of three girls,
Speaker 1: so in the house of just four women, I didn't
Speaker 1: get shipped for real, So I didn't learn to do
Speaker 1: my own here. But I did have a fucking Jerry curl.
Speaker 1: I had a nouveau wave, and then the Jerry curl
Speaker 1: came out camp finally, you know, swimming all the summer long,
Speaker 1: so my mom just never got the Jerry curl back
Speaker 1: in there. But from that point I was doing my
Speaker 1: own hair all the time. Mm hmm from a little yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. So nobody really teaches to manage your hair,
Speaker 1: and it's time consuming also that we were learning now
Speaker 1: as adults, once we stopped doing the perms and everything else,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more time consuming to keep up
Speaker 1: with your natural hair. Do y'all think that people are
Speaker 1: now spending more money on natural hair than they did
Speaker 1: when they when perms were absolutely yes, m well, natural
Speaker 1: hair costs more in general, like them in the salon.
Speaker 1: If you get your hair done in your natural costs
Speaker 1: more than get your hair done if you're if you're relaxed,
Speaker 1: and then just the amount of products you need. If
Speaker 1: you get go to the salon and you have a
Speaker 1: relaxed there, you can wrap. It's just a wrap, I mean,
Speaker 1: but when you get your hair done now, if you're natural,
Speaker 1: you have to buy a ton of products to keep
Speaker 1: up with it. You know, we spray a little light oil.
Speaker 1: She and it kept going back in the day. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was I didn't even know all this stuff would
Speaker 1: exist with hair, like steam treatment, like growing up, steam
Speaker 1: treatments and all that. When I first seeing that, I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well what black women natural hair? Didn't
Speaker 1: do anything with it? No products? How would how would
Speaker 1: how would y'all think our relationships would be if we
Speaker 1: actually walked around with our natural hair without having to
Speaker 1: do all the manipulation that we have to do to
Speaker 1: make it look nice, you know for our current So
Speaker 1: you mean basically not but we can still hold it.
Speaker 1: But it would just everybody would have whatever the natural
Speaker 1: texture maybe maybe you know, the foresty like forcy hair
Speaker 1: or whatever the other the spectrum hair it's just like
Speaker 1: for real natural because even with using all the products,
Speaker 1: is your hair really still natural? Yeah? That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, AJ, Like, is it really still natural hair?
Speaker 1: Because all the manipulation of the hair, all this taming
Speaker 1: the hair, all of this, that's really not the natural
Speaker 1: state of your hair. Like you that hair be get
Speaker 1: a lot of help to little. Yes, I feel like no,
Speaker 1: that definitely would be something with men would be like,
Speaker 1: especially man, you know what's going on with that? Like,
Speaker 1: what's what's up with your hair? Yeah, let's get you know,
Speaker 1: I got a home girl who she would always wear
Speaker 1: so Wind's wigs and stuff like that. And then her
Speaker 1: the guy she got with, like he was asking her
Speaker 1: to stopping up first for me, a J I give
Speaker 1: a disclaimer the niggas when I meet them. Look, I
Speaker 1: wear we've all the time. Don't wait a year from
Speaker 1: now to be trying to come at me by my motherfucker, We've. No,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing my hair natural. If I feel like it,
Speaker 1: I might, but you won't have anything to do with that. Right,
Speaker 1: So she changed that her style for her dude, right,
Speaker 1: But then he then realized how much longer it was
Speaker 1: taking her to get ready. That frustrated him more than
Speaker 1: her wearing the wigs, so he suggested her to go
Speaker 1: back to wearing weaves, just because it was taking her
Speaker 1: longer to get ready when they had some ship to do.
Speaker 1: The question, do y'all feel like men are more attracted
Speaker 1: to women with their natural hair or with we've black women?
Speaker 1: That's a horrid one quite silence. They say one thing,
Speaker 1: they say one thing. You know, well, I can speak
Speaker 1: for my husband. He loves long we've, He likes a
Speaker 1: short cut. He even likes my sister lots. And I
Speaker 1: was worried about that for sure, But he just wants
Speaker 1: you to look done, no matter what. Make sure you
Speaker 1: look done, like, don't come out have stepping whatever it is.
Speaker 1: That's how he feels. That's what I'm finding with a
Speaker 1: lot of men, like as long as they look good
Speaker 1: it that's what I feel like nex to be, Like,
Speaker 1: as long as it look nice, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's natural weed or whatever. You got long? Is this
Speaker 1: complimenting you? And you know a lot of men they
Speaker 1: say they want natural women, which there are plenty, Like
Speaker 1: there's a type of black woman out here for every
Speaker 1: type of black man. Right, So my suggestion to many. Right,
Speaker 1: if you don't like we've, don't get with a woman
Speaker 1: that where is we've and then trying to change her?
Speaker 1: Right if you don't, Yeah, if you don't like absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you like natural hair. There's so many
Speaker 1: women now wearing their natural hair and whatever state that
Speaker 1: might be, and you can pick one of them. But
Speaker 1: they like the long hair, Yeah, right, they do a
Speaker 1: j um to your point, I do I give that
Speaker 1: disclaimer to like, listen, were we I look like weat
Speaker 1: meals at night? If this ship slid off. So if
Speaker 1: you don't like that, that's cool. Maybe I'm not a
Speaker 1: woman for you, but that's me and just gonna personal note.
Speaker 1: I just feel like a lot of me and need
Speaker 1: to stay out of black woman's business when it comes
Speaker 1: to hair. You know, I have alopecia, y'all my girl,
Speaker 1: so I can let you all know with tam knows.
Speaker 1: So when you speak a lot of times on okay
Speaker 1: wearing weeds and stuff like, shut the funk up. You
Speaker 1: don't know I wear weed because I got I have
Speaker 1: to real you know, like you don't even know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Like you you're talking about ship, you
Speaker 1: don't even got. It's not even your business. You don't
Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about. Be mindful of what
Speaker 1: you say so because I'm completely upfront about a lot
Speaker 1: of ship about me. So if I'm not that girl
Speaker 1: for you, then that's okay. Like you said, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of girls out here who are completely natural, who
Speaker 1: don't wear weeds, who you know will be just what
Speaker 1: you like. But don't try to come over here and
Speaker 1: try to switch me up, because I'm good. I'm good
Speaker 1: with what I got corn on. You know. When I
Speaker 1: let's say I'm dating an again, I'm wearing a wig
Speaker 1: at the time, and let's say I'm spending the night
Speaker 1: with him for the first time, I'll be like, look,
Speaker 1: ship to get different. My hair, it's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I'm gonna put my scar phone, and
Speaker 1: I want you to treat that ship like a crown
Speaker 1: when I come out to the bathroom. Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be alarmed by my hair. That's gonna still be in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, you know. And if you walk in my room,
Speaker 1: I got a whole Listen, you know how you got
Speaker 1: the hook that you lay your hats on. That's a whole.
Speaker 1: So don't be scared. If you want you see blood
Speaker 1: different on the right right, listen. I have one of
Speaker 1: my niggers all right coming and he saw my wig hanging,
Speaker 1: and you know that episode of Martin ware Pan was
Speaker 1: that ain't no goddamn. He started out of my wig
Speaker 1: like shut up, like you beat this out of my
Speaker 1: wig like that? Yo. Yeah, y'all, let's take a break
Speaker 1: right quick. We'll be right back. I went to Atlanta
Speaker 1: this weekend and running the streets during ball Head and
Speaker 1: Whole Ship and uh, I went out to lunch one
Speaker 1: of my guy friends, and I've never realized he was
Speaker 1: like a super duper Kevin Samuel's supporter. Right anyway, I
Speaker 1: thought he'd get bitches, because I feel like half the
Speaker 1: time is for niggas who don't get bitches. But I
Speaker 1: thought he'd get bitches. I don't know. So apparently some
Speaker 1: of his friends have divested out the community and they've
Speaker 1: moved to places like, uh, um, the Philippines. They've moved
Speaker 1: to Columbia to get women right because you know, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they just can't find a suitable black woman
Speaker 1: in America. Um. And what I was trying to explain
Speaker 1: to him is that these bitches coming from the slums.
Speaker 1: So if you want somebody that you just gotta take
Speaker 1: care of, and they they're not gonna say nothing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all might need to do that. But we know that
Speaker 1: these women are gonna be um, you know, our complexion, darker, lighter, whatever.
Speaker 1: These are gonna be women with naturally long hair, naturally
Speaker 1: curly hair. And this is what the standard of beauty is,
Speaker 1: I believe a lot of times for black men. Do
Speaker 1: y'all think that of black women in America? Specifically? If
Speaker 1: all of us had long, naturally curly hair where your
Speaker 1: man can touch your fucking scalp during sex, would you
Speaker 1: think that men would stay within the community more? Do men?
Speaker 1: Are men really like that? Like, as far as the
Speaker 1: aesthetics of hair, are they that shallow? I think they're
Speaker 1: very shallow? Are I don't know? Some are j I
Speaker 1: just feel like I don't come across that kind of guy. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I see my friends and their boos or
Speaker 1: man or whatever, and they're like, don't can you put
Speaker 1: your bonnet on? Baby? You know, like my nigga, I
Speaker 1: don't wear up on it. I mean I'm locked up
Speaker 1: right now. But I mean I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: support and love. I mean, there are some men out
Speaker 1: there that are just gonna find a reason to complain. Um,
Speaker 1: because you can also make your hair loose curl. I'm
Speaker 1: atina curl stylens. If anybody's seping for one, um and
Speaker 1: so you know it can be done. I mean lots
Speaker 1: of people walking around with a curl thing is their
Speaker 1: natural hair. I mean, if you want loose curls, you
Speaker 1: can get a song with loose curls. I mean, if
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a reason to complain, if you have it,
Speaker 1: it'll be something else. Yeah, I agree for that type
Speaker 1: of person. A lot of mes just like what do
Speaker 1: ass titties? I don't care right? What about right? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: But we ain't gonna actually once they find out what
Speaker 1: those things do that they don't just start going into
Speaker 1: some other ship. It's like almost an ever. The guys
Speaker 1: talking loud as a small community. That's just a right
Speaker 1: in my minority. Yeah. Um, so apparently black women. I
Speaker 1: don't know who the businesses is, but whatever. Apparently we're
Speaker 1: spending like four hundred and seventy three million dollars annually
Speaker 1: on hair care. Apparently I found this article on Huffington's
Speaker 1: Posts or huff was it huff Post My bad? Find
Speaker 1: this article on huff Post. It says, in narrative surrounding
Speaker 1: black beauties specifically here is changing as black women embrace
Speaker 1: their curls, coils, and kinks. Marketing research backs to shift
Speaker 1: as mental reports hair relax ourselves fell thirty eight percent
Speaker 1: between twelve and seventeen. Conversely, the black hair market is
Speaker 1: still growing each year and it's valued at two point
Speaker 1: five billion dollars. So this or this, yeah, this article
Speaker 1: does support that because now more black women are going natural,
Speaker 1: We're spending more money on hair, even women who wear
Speaker 1: We've like because underneath this this wig, underneath these tracks,
Speaker 1: I'm natural, right, So you start spending more money on
Speaker 1: on natural hair care for me. I know, I wished
Speaker 1: I started a company where you can sample some ship
Speaker 1: and send it back if you don't want it. I
Speaker 1: know Sally's. If you use um or less of the product,
Speaker 1: you can return it. So you're just gonna try and
Speaker 1: buy some ship. But I'm a product junkie. I got
Speaker 1: so much fucking hair products it is ridiculous, and I
Speaker 1: feel like if it doesn't if I try, like for
Speaker 1: a month and ain't doing what I thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'll discard it and go buy some other ship. Right,
Speaker 1: you're discarded my ship goes really throw it out. I
Speaker 1: keep it. I keep it, and it just being there,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, partying with the rest of the ship
Speaker 1: I ain't using. Yeah. I talked to my daughter. She
Speaker 1: knows everything anything about anything with hair, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: running by her first, and then I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: should I try this? Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Then I'll try it, you know. But you're right, I
Speaker 1: will trying to send some of that ship back because
Speaker 1: just because it works well for somebody, it doesn't work
Speaker 1: well for all hair types. Even the hair types is
Speaker 1: supposed to work well for they don't always. It's not
Speaker 1: always that case. So they if you could sample, sample
Speaker 1: it and send it back, that's a win win. I'll
Speaker 1: probably got more ship because I do exactly. Because do
Speaker 1: you feel like all the younger generation, I just feel
Speaker 1: like they have a different relationship with their hair than
Speaker 1: we did growing up. Like these young kids will shave
Speaker 1: their head in a minute and don't give a damn.
Speaker 1: Like when we were growing up, our hair was like
Speaker 1: if you lost your hair like she has cancer, something
Speaker 1: is wrong. Why is her hair ball? You know that's
Speaker 1: the only way, right. Do y'all agree that kids like
Speaker 1: what do you think is the dynamic that changed the
Speaker 1: relationship with it? And my mom did? I played if
Speaker 1: she saw a nap, it was getting relaxed. If she
Speaker 1: thought my hair was dry, was getting greased on it.
Speaker 1: Like we couldn't get in the pool. W I mean
Speaker 1: you still did. But you know, it was just a
Speaker 1: completely different aspect. Well, for one, it was um it
Speaker 1: was not called unapologetically black. Back then it was black.
Speaker 1: But be safe and make sure you fit in and
Speaker 1: ferform to the community standards so that others won't be
Speaker 1: worried or think you look different. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to get the job and you know all that. But
Speaker 1: now it's unapologically, unapologetically black. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the difference. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I definitely love how
Speaker 1: these kids embrace their hair, they embrace their looks. They
Speaker 1: will shave it, they will color it, they will do whatever.
Speaker 1: And if they want to wear color hair, they don't
Speaker 1: care if anybody thinks it's ghetto or whatever. That's me.
Speaker 1: And this is what if I want to wear down
Speaker 1: my ass. I'm gonna do it because that's what I
Speaker 1: want to do. You know, they don't care, They like
Speaker 1: just all like their selves. They're out there. I love it,
Speaker 1: I told my kids, and I think that does come
Speaker 1: from us. Because I hated to be sitting on the side.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get in the pool because I just gotta relax.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why the hell do you give
Speaker 1: me a relaxing one week before you do? I just
Speaker 1: want to fool I gotta set the side and I
Speaker 1: can't get it. So I didn't do that to my kids,
Speaker 1: you know, like, no, get in the pool. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. We'll do something else with your hair,
Speaker 1: you know, over these next couple of months, so that
Speaker 1: you can enjoy. So now they just know that I
Speaker 1: am not my hair. Literally, I'm not my hair. This
Speaker 1: hair gonna come from to what the funk I got
Speaker 1: going on? Not not the other way, It round right round.
Speaker 1: Right when I was a little I accidentally, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened, didn't get your ass. Yeah, to take
Speaker 1: that as the words, I can admit that I was
Speaker 1: one of those black women who would be going on
Speaker 1: vacation to the beach with am fucking lace front wig
Speaker 1: on for the longest and then I'm like, I really
Speaker 1: enjoy swimming, Like I like, like I'm a fish, you know,
Speaker 1: I like to be in the water. So now I
Speaker 1: don't do that ship. I'm getting me some braids. I
Speaker 1: had locks just recently, and it's the most freeing to
Speaker 1: be able to just get up and go do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just still gotta deal with some ship and still
Speaker 1: gotta deal with finding the good edge control lodge. So
Speaker 1: you're still spending how much money for some fucking edge control.
Speaker 1: But but funk that too, because when I had my locks,
Speaker 1: I just was letting to do That was the most like,
Speaker 1: to be honest, y'all, when I had those locks, I
Speaker 1: didn't think I would enjoy them as much as I did,
Speaker 1: because typically I'm someone who wears long weave all the time.
Speaker 1: And I put those locks in my hair and I
Speaker 1: was like, I get up in the morning and leaving
Speaker 1: conditioner on that ship and just go that was the
Speaker 1: best ship. I can't wait to get them back there.
Speaker 1: You give your time, your scott, your scalmeratized access to
Speaker 1: the sun. You can oil your ship like this ship
Speaker 1: plastered on my fucking forehead, right and the sun, I
Speaker 1: mean the summertime. I feel like black women we struggle
Speaker 1: the most with our hair in the summer months, especially
Speaker 1: people living in the South, because that he is so
Speaker 1: trying with any hairs. I don't give a damn what
Speaker 1: kind of hair is that you got? Like, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go ahead and like shave my head if I
Speaker 1: had a cute haad shape, I promise you I might
Speaker 1: shake my head, but at the top. But I don't.
Speaker 1: Took this week off and put it in the front
Speaker 1: seat and put the seatbelt on this ship. Plenty of time,
Speaker 1: got just you haven't helped me, all right, y'all. So listen, recently,
Speaker 1: did y'all see Saucy Santana at the There was a
Speaker 1: pride concert, a pride parade or something going on in
Speaker 1: Texas recently. In his his commentary in regards to he
Speaker 1: didn't say black women. He just is saying bitches and holes.
Speaker 1: But we know who usually who they're talking about. So um,
Speaker 1: just let me read his commentary right quick, right, So,
Speaker 1: Santana told the crowd that gaze run the world because
Speaker 1: when them bitches need their hair done, they called the
Speaker 1: gaze when they need a stylist, them holes call the gaze.
Speaker 1: When they need their makeup done, they call the gaze.
Speaker 1: Uh when them niggas when that? What do you say
Speaker 1: when the dog as baby daddy's, um hold on? When
Speaker 1: they need advice about their dog as baby daddy's, they
Speaker 1: call the gaze. He also went on to say that
Speaker 1: how you know gay men are the blueprint? How y'all
Speaker 1: feel about that? M hm h duplicated never originated? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely feel like a lot of men
Speaker 1: on here swaying hair. But that ship came back from us.
Speaker 1: You know, that came back from us. Get credit where
Speaker 1: it's due. You know, That's how I feel. Growing up,
Speaker 1: it was women doing hair. Don't get me wrong. It
Speaker 1: may have been a couple of men sprinkled in, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't That's not my core where I saw where
Speaker 1: men were running the show. Now again, I'll give them
Speaker 1: the male stylists, they're doing that thing, but I feel
Speaker 1: like that's whar I fetched. In my opinion. I've had
Speaker 1: clients tell me that, lots of clients or just people
Speaker 1: in general tell me that their women these are women
Speaker 1: only said that their favorite stylists was a man, gay
Speaker 1: or straight. Um. I think a lot of times for women,
Speaker 1: it just itn't makes you feel better when a man
Speaker 1: does it. I don't know why, but that's just what
Speaker 1: I've seen in the past. Um. I have know plenty
Speaker 1: of one full talented female hair stylists and makeup artists
Speaker 1: that do an amazing job. I think it is a
Speaker 1: minority for um, gay men to be stylist, so it's
Speaker 1: like a trophy, you know, in a sense. But I
Speaker 1: think it's just so many of women doing hair that
Speaker 1: it's just awesome that have a man or I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's my little too, SAMs, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's exaggerated though, Yeah, but I would rather for a woman.
Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable with sister doing my little woman
Speaker 1: doing my hair just me, you know, because I feel
Speaker 1: like she understands my hair and you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like we can just relate on hair and not saying
Speaker 1: a man can't do it, but just my preference. I
Speaker 1: feel I feel more comfortable coming there looking fucked up
Speaker 1: and you know, a woman do my hair. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we also know that the salon oftentimes is a damned
Speaker 1: therapy office too, so I can't have the same type
Speaker 1: of conversations with this male stylist that I might have
Speaker 1: with my home girl s ash um female stylist. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's another aspect of it.
Speaker 1: You know what, what sausage santana? You know, I really
Speaker 1: feel like this is like the highest form of patriarchy
Speaker 1: possible what we're seeing right now. And I feel like
Speaker 1: a black women need to do a little bit better
Speaker 1: job at fucking gate keeping at this point because we
Speaker 1: empower and we now these people feeling tight and tight
Speaker 1: enough take offense by me saying these people are okay, okay,
Speaker 1: it's the highest form of patriarchy because imagine a man
Speaker 1: being able to tell a woman bitch um you because
Speaker 1: I feel like it, right, the funk is that and
Speaker 1: that's what's happening exactly. So how how could you possibly
Speaker 1: be the blueprint of anything when we literally birth you
Speaker 1: Negga's okay, So imagine a grown man getting up there
Speaker 1: or whatever he identifies as to me, it's can I
Speaker 1: use this word heterophobic? Is that a word? Is that
Speaker 1: you might have made it up just now because it
Speaker 1: seems like are we experiencing something heterophobia? And is it
Speaker 1: possible for a heterosexual person to cancel a gay person
Speaker 1: because we usually see them canceling the funk out our
Speaker 1: ass for one little comment commentary. Can we do that?
Speaker 1: Y'all scared to talk about that? You know, I'm not okay,
Speaker 1: I'm offended. I was offended by what he said. You know,
Speaker 1: I listen, I love my I love my good girls, guys,
Speaker 1: whatever you identify, I love them. I love when they
Speaker 1: do hair they slaves, they do. But but what he
Speaker 1: said was offensive to me as a woman and as
Speaker 1: a hair style. Is like, I mean, come on now,
Speaker 1: I'm still a woman, and we are the blueprint. We
Speaker 1: literally birth y'all. We birth everybody, man or woman, We
Speaker 1: birth everybody. So um, go ahead and drop NICKI Minaj
Speaker 1: in there real quick. That you my son, my mom
Speaker 1: step son, right right. So I was offended by what
Speaker 1: he's said. I mean, I get, I get what he's
Speaker 1: trying to say, trying to hit that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a better way to say it because it's not
Speaker 1: it's just not true. You know, that might be the
Speaker 1: fact blueprint that's that's not true. That he grabbed Jesus
Speaker 1: foot all that one and he looked like he didn't apologize.
Speaker 1: He went on to tweet fake woke as bitches. People
Speaker 1: don't care about old tweets. The internet have this weird
Speaker 1: thing with power, thinking they have the power to cancel someone.
Speaker 1: News flash, you don't. You'll be thinking, y'all, have someone about,
Speaker 1: have someone by the balls, about situations you don't give
Speaker 1: a damn about. We give a damn about this situation,
Speaker 1: and we need an apologiz as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, you right, It's okay. He can
Speaker 1: feel how he he can feel how he wants to
Speaker 1: feel about it. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: will always be the blueprint. Stop fucking today. Everybody would
Speaker 1: die if the world would end. I don't know now
Speaker 1: they definitely, they definitely may be kissing the lab but
Speaker 1: they probably AI They ain't no real it will be
Speaker 1: something robots, that's crazy, artificial intelligence all day. But it's
Speaker 1: crazy because you know, he's never I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: go there, but go go there, go there. I can't
Speaker 1: always be the only one going there. I love so
Speaker 1: I think I like his music is fun. I do
Speaker 1: appreciate all the males stylings out there and makeup artist,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's a lot of the time it's
Speaker 1: like things mimicking what I do, how I wear my hair,
Speaker 1: how I as my eyebrows. You know, so maybe I'm
Speaker 1: the blueprint. You are right, you are the blueprint. Every
Speaker 1: every I feel like every mail stylist they look up
Speaker 1: to something idolized, some woman's Mariah Carey Beyonce, Like they
Speaker 1: idolize a woman, you know. So I don't understand how
Speaker 1: you can be the blueprint. The only thing I can
Speaker 1: and the one thing I will give them. Okay, the
Speaker 1: face beat that definitely clean came from the trans community,
Speaker 1: Black women in particular. We're never wearing that much heavy
Speaker 1: ass makeup. My home girl, her daughter, Yeah, my home girl,
Speaker 1: her daughter faced time over the weekend after somebody did
Speaker 1: her makeup and I'm like, who's that? Who is that?
Speaker 1: She looked like a drag queen. That's how heavy this
Speaker 1: the makeup was. That's how I had your contouring wards.
Speaker 1: And she's a beautiful ass girl, young woman, Like, you
Speaker 1: don't need that much makeup. They need that much makeup
Speaker 1: to look like us. But to be a natural woman,
Speaker 1: you don't make up is it's supposed to like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just supposed to be like a hand speciment. It's
Speaker 1: not supposed to make you look like a whole another person.
Speaker 1: That's where we can kind of get pictures. But to
Speaker 1: be walking around in real life if what makes you happy, yea,
Speaker 1: the whole basis of the But we're we always wearing
Speaker 1: that heavy makeup like that? Where were always wearing heavy
Speaker 1: makeup like that? Or did that come from that community?
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like in like the nineties,
Speaker 1: if you go back to early nineties and Eggs, they
Speaker 1: were doing like strips of pink hair and blue and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, But but Whitney was
Speaker 1: more this ship. Whitney was kind of born on the
Speaker 1: other side with the the you know to me with
Speaker 1: the up and stuff lighter. When I looked at us,
Speaker 1: we mainly had on some lip liner, you know, not
Speaker 1: a little fake mole. And then when we spice it up,
Speaker 1: we do a red lip, you know. We that was
Speaker 1: like nineties. I'm talking about like the eighties when they
Speaker 1: were like like hervy blush and their eyes and like
Speaker 1: it was hot, it was bright. But I just think
Speaker 1: it just changes with the torn for the face hair
Speaker 1: is to give a higher cheek. Most women naturally have
Speaker 1: that cheek phone right, so that lift that doesn't come
Speaker 1: from women, that extra lift that knows on and all
Speaker 1: that ship. That's how we look naturally a lot of y.
Speaker 1: But not if he game right and he needs to
Speaker 1: get it back, because yeah, my ship, if I turned
Speaker 1: to the side, it ain't like that no more. Why
Speaker 1: should ain't ask me like that number I'm listening. I'm
Speaker 1: thankful for that. Yes, yes, me too, because maybe they
Speaker 1: come from um the community that now sometimes like she
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be a bit much, But I do
Speaker 1: appreciate some of those, especially of this part. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yes, I don't kind of told my nose
Speaker 1: because keep I keep my nose. But this cham part,
Speaker 1: I thank you, thank you sir for forgetting me white
Speaker 1: with with with the chat. You know, I'm saying, my chicks,
Speaker 1: the second one don't need to be a part of everything.
Speaker 1: You know it don't need to be a part of
Speaker 1: nothing in my life. Honestly, that second chick could go
Speaker 1: to hell. Yeah, I don't know. O goodness, So let
Speaker 1: me ask you. All is all right with in the
Speaker 1: black community. All of our most of our products and
Speaker 1: hair it comes from hair stores that are ran by
Speaker 1: Asians in our community where they don't really invest any
Speaker 1: money back into the Black community. After you spend that
Speaker 1: money in that hair store, that money does not recirculate
Speaker 1: in our neighborhoods. How do y'all feel about that? Like?
Speaker 1: I don't like it? Does it make you? It does?
Speaker 1: It's a monopoly, you know, so when you go to
Speaker 1: a black on hairstore, the prices are astronomical, you know,
Speaker 1: and you when you think about you know people who
Speaker 1: are buying that, who don't go to the hair salon
Speaker 1: and buy all their products and do their kids hair
Speaker 1: at home. It can can sometimes it's not affordable to
Speaker 1: always invest in the black hair stores. That's the toughest part.
Speaker 1: Because if we could get more right it cos more
Speaker 1: we could afford it more than we would. But it
Speaker 1: is unfortunate it. I know a lot of people who
Speaker 1: have navigated their life around never going to Asian owned
Speaker 1: businesses because they don't invest that to the black means.
Speaker 1: I try my best, you know. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you open a shop, you still have to go to
Speaker 1: them for them products because most everything is produced in
Speaker 1: you know, in China. You know, the tools and stuff
Speaker 1: that we use. Maybe not so much the hair products
Speaker 1: because it's like I know, there's a lot of black
Speaker 1: women now have natural hair carolines and it's just from
Speaker 1: natural fruits and berries and roots and ship right, But
Speaker 1: like tools, like homes, all this jury, all this stuff
Speaker 1: they do the kids. Even the music and the god
Speaker 1: damn store a lot. They got gospel music. Then they
Speaker 1: got wrapped going on in a damn hair store. And
Speaker 1: if your total comes out to a dollar and twelve
Speaker 1: cents and you don't have them two pennies, they will
Speaker 1: send your ass to the car. You can't even get
Speaker 1: two pennies from the Asians inside their stores. I would
Speaker 1: like to challenge more Black women to try and shop black.
Speaker 1: They had there some black online stores which would be
Speaker 1: a little bit cheaper for us to do. Maybe it
Speaker 1: might take a little bit longer for you to get
Speaker 1: your products, but that's something we can do in our community, right.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I wouldn't even be mad at uh
Speaker 1: the Asian people in the black community. If they put
Speaker 1: some money back into they just did. That money circulated
Speaker 1: more in our community, but it doesn't they take it
Speaker 1: to their own like our dollar leaves instantly when we
Speaker 1: when we invested in there, and we spend so much
Speaker 1: money there. They're just so much money as of I'll
Speaker 1: say what the last ten years or so starting to
Speaker 1: hire black women to work inside there um and their stores.
Speaker 1: We couldn't even get a job in there. They follow
Speaker 1: you around the store, which I do. People steal, Okay,
Speaker 1: people do steal, so I don't. I can't fault them
Speaker 1: for that. But fighting and putting your hands on people
Speaker 1: for a couple of dollars, no right, I used to.
Speaker 1: I used to steal. So your picture was that there?
Speaker 1: You had your picture? Remember them sticks with the balls
Speaker 1: on the back, boy, I used to gonna rob live
Speaker 1: for them little balls. I have most to do whatever,
Speaker 1: don't play with me the show I had a rare ball.
Speaker 1: Blue Ball has reparations. So I'm trying to have everything
Speaker 1: that I'm playing to eat in the salon, ruscious cones,
Speaker 1: satin pillowcases, styling products, whatever I use, I sell so
Speaker 1: they don't have to go there. But that's just also
Speaker 1: just business marketing for my own self. But I have
Speaker 1: everything I use so they can get that helps Do
Speaker 1: you not get it from? Do you not go to
Speaker 1: into my products? Are professional or but I can say
Speaker 1: if I order it involke from somewhere, it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: come from China. I mean everything does. So I'm not
Speaker 1: like you should not paying that premium price though from
Speaker 1: having a grown business. You know, I'm rather my clients
Speaker 1: come of my small business and support me than going
Speaker 1: to the Asian hair store buying it, even though we
Speaker 1: probably all got it somewhere from the same place somewhat. Um.
Speaker 1: But my products are professional and then do not come
Speaker 1: from China. But bruscious cones. I don't know where they
Speaker 1: come from. They probably do. Yeah, y'all know they passed
Speaker 1: that last year. They passed like the it's not called
Speaker 1: the Asian Hate Bill. It's like the COVID the COVID
Speaker 1: uh um anti hate bill, but it's for Asian Island,
Speaker 1: Pacific percific island whatever, right you know, right, so um,
Speaker 1: and they paid the narrative that is black people that's
Speaker 1: been attacking you know, the Asian community when we clearly
Speaker 1: see that law came into play after a white man
Speaker 1: shot up a massage in Atlanta. Right, if you are
Speaker 1: that afraid of black people, why are y'all still in
Speaker 1: our communities? I'm confused if they really if there's really
Speaker 1: a problem between Asians and black people, how are your
Speaker 1: businesses still thriving in black communities. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's so much them that pay the narrative that is
Speaker 1: black people as it is the media, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's like Asians and black community is like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the black folks. No sample sized to see how
Speaker 1: they feel about us by the way they treat us
Speaker 1: in their establishments, y'all don't think so. No, I have,
Speaker 1: I have Asian clients. I feel like I don't think
Speaker 1: that they are afraid of us at all. I think
Speaker 1: they look at us deadardars, like regular people. I think
Speaker 1: that that's just something that is a narrative just put
Speaker 1: out white supremacy. I think it's something that people just
Speaker 1: want to push at times to make it another thing
Speaker 1: that we're doing wrong. But no, in general, when I
Speaker 1: walk into the hair so, I never feel like they're
Speaker 1: afraid at all. I mean, sometimes something I feel like
Speaker 1: my business isn't welcomed or wanted or can't or appreciate it.
Speaker 1: That's the word appreciated, appreciate It felt like they were afraid.
Speaker 1: I don't afraid, right, and then I have Asian friends,
Speaker 1: I have Asian home girls, and I don't receive that
Speaker 1: from like the people I go. Obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: them like Loki be kind of like. I have an
Speaker 1: Asian friend and she's definitely one of the realists. I
Speaker 1: love her. So I don't know if that's a real narrative.
Speaker 1: It's just more than likely definitely something the media is
Speaker 1: pushing a narrative for sure. How do y'all feel about
Speaker 1: Did y'all see this video on Instagram? This white girl,
Speaker 1: her name is Alex von Dutch, and this is something
Speaker 1: that we could have talked about and stupid Internet news child.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of weeks ago, um, But she's seen
Speaker 1: on she's like TikTok. I don't know if she's a
Speaker 1: singer whatever. She has music in her handle on TikTok
Speaker 1: and Instagram, but I don't know what she at, what
Speaker 1: exactly she does, But she's on TikTok mostly and she
Speaker 1: had that video posing a question to black women and
Speaker 1: went viral. She was asking why black women, um don't
Speaker 1: feel supported by black men? Did you guys see that?
Speaker 1: But she's seen she has single ease twisting her head
Speaker 1: like she has like a black hairstyle, right, and she
Speaker 1: was basically posing all these questions. Supposedly she's a Kevin
Speaker 1: Samuel supporter. Also, she says he was her mentor. She
Speaker 1: would talk to him often. So it's almost like people
Speaker 1: are creating platforms off of triggering black women about whatever,
Speaker 1: maybe some fucking hair, our relationships with black men, all
Speaker 1: this ship. But how do y'all feel about And she's
Speaker 1: appropriate and playing a black woman while doing this. I
Speaker 1: feel very supportive by a black man, so she's definitely
Speaker 1: not talking to me. Um. I think that people try
Speaker 1: to push America once again. I mean, do y'all feel
Speaker 1: supported by black man? So I don't, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I think that as a collective, maybe there's something there
Speaker 1: as a you know, because you know, there's the whole
Speaker 1: thing where black women are the least, are the most disrespected.
Speaker 1: I'm protected all that that little um you know, Malcolm
Speaker 1: X said it right, and people hang onto that till
Speaker 1: this day. I'm not. I don't have a victim mentality,
Speaker 1: so to me, that's like victimhood. But I can understand
Speaker 1: where some women may feel that way. I can understand that,
Speaker 1: but it's all it's still some ship that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be discussed in our community, like I don't need a
Speaker 1: white woman um question to me about my relationship with
Speaker 1: black back men. And it was mostly black white women
Speaker 1: responding to her, and as Asian woman because she she
Speaker 1: actually did another TikTok and said why are seventy percent
Speaker 1: of black children in America praised by single mothers? And
Speaker 1: an Asian woman responded to her ass and said, you
Speaker 1: need to be worried about all the serial killers and
Speaker 1: rapists and mass murderers that are being created in a
Speaker 1: two family white homes as opposed to being in black
Speaker 1: people's business. And I felt that I um, I mean
Speaker 1: those are good questions, right, I mean, those are things
Speaker 1: that we definitely need to figure out what's going on
Speaker 1: in our communities. But why are you asking that? And
Speaker 1: what you're gonna very like, what are you about to do?
Speaker 1: Get your ass beat up in the street? Those are
Speaker 1: actually true statements sometimes, but that's not your bit. Why
Speaker 1: did you care? And what are you gonna do when
Speaker 1: you pick that bone up? What are you gonna carry
Speaker 1: it to? What you're gonna do to help the situation? Nothing?
Speaker 1: So are you just trying to be messy at that point,
Speaker 1: and you're just trying to stare the pot because okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's black problems. Let us worry about our ship.
Speaker 1: You don't, I mean, honestly, what you're gonna do with it? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: It was black thing exactly and got people engaging, and
Speaker 1: that's all they wanted was the engagement. A black man
Speaker 1: commented to her and asked her um if she was black,
Speaker 1: and she responded back to him and she said, uh,
Speaker 1: by heart or by skin color, So clearly she she's identifying.
Speaker 1: That's exactly where I'm going. And in another video, she
Speaker 1: says what does she have to do for the black
Speaker 1: community to trust her? And she says, even though I'm
Speaker 1: not black, I identify with you. Again, we need to
Speaker 1: do a better job at gate keeping the motherfucker's feeling
Speaker 1: titled to all things black women. If you want to
Speaker 1: get the check on social media, what they do they
Speaker 1: make like caricatures out of out of black women. They
Speaker 1: throw away going on do our head movements, talk about
Speaker 1: like it's they're making fun. But a black woman oftentimes
Speaker 1: can't become a millionaire or get a million follows off
Speaker 1: of naturally just being herself. But a white woman pretending
Speaker 1: to be us. We'll get support from the black community
Speaker 1: and a white community. Um, I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: black women got a million follow You don't think, I
Speaker 1: don't think. Uh. Let's take the little catch me outside
Speaker 1: a little girl for example. Why should she be famous
Speaker 1: because young people follow her? I don't follow her. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know young people have a million followers easy. But
Speaker 1: also she's um a character like people want to see
Speaker 1: someone at the fool and what characters that she does,
Speaker 1: character of a specific type of black woman? She does,
Speaker 1: she does, she does. But also there are black women
Speaker 1: being themselves. I have a million followers, and that's why
Speaker 1: people do imitate those accounts because they know it generates.
Speaker 1: You know, people want it. Even on exty, there's a
Speaker 1: Willian faith. Black owned distance is on emty. They're not
Speaker 1: black owned bustance. They just have like black found magic.
Speaker 1: It is something I guess it's flattery, but people are
Speaker 1: imitating us, right. Yeah, this is very interesting and I
Speaker 1: feel like we can go all day long with a
Speaker 1: black hair topic because it just goes into all so
Speaker 1: many different things. When you start talking about black women
Speaker 1: and here relationships growing up natural, we've we gotta stop
Speaker 1: somewhere right right, So I want us to do a
Speaker 1: dumb bish story. Dumb story because we've all been a
Speaker 1: dumb bitch at least once or twice. So you've listened
Speaker 1: to the show. We always have our guests share a
Speaker 1: dumbing story. It doesn't have to be about Hair. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you could relate to her, that would be great.
Speaker 1: But if you could think of a moment you were
Speaker 1: ever played or somebody tried to play you or ran
Speaker 1: them up? Can you share a time me? I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know mine? Do you have one for me? You
Speaker 1: can look it is what it is. You've been keeping
Speaker 1: tallying her dumb bit activity for her, tam, you know
Speaker 1: that one time? Now you one time a dumb bitch?
Speaker 1: Did you remember? I've been smart your whole life? She
Speaker 1: was smart her whole life, y'all that one time. Um,
Speaker 1: I can tell you a story about us. Just be
Speaker 1: a dumb bitches together. Okay, that's a good one ahead. Um.
Speaker 1: It was Easter, all right. This is like in our twenties.
Speaker 1: It is Easter Sunday morning and we had been out
Speaker 1: club and all night. Six am, six am is people
Speaker 1: getting up ready to go praise the Lord and thank
Speaker 1: him for resurrecting and stuff, and we drunk and she
Speaker 1: was like, stop and get gas and I forgot she
Speaker 1: said that, and I wasn't paying the kitchen. I was
Speaker 1: driving her car and we broke down on the side
Speaker 1: of the highway with no gas, and some strange white
Speaker 1: people pulled over and picked us up, took us to
Speaker 1: the gas station and we got a gas can. When
Speaker 1: I was out there smoking a black and mouth filling
Speaker 1: up the gas came about to blow. My mother fuck
Speaker 1: herself up. And we got a gallon of gas and
Speaker 1: people took us back to our car and then we
Speaker 1: made it home. That was so dumb. It was That
Speaker 1: was dumb. But let's talk. It wasn't strip club, not
Speaker 1: just a regular club. Yeah, And Tammy asked for twenty
Speaker 1: on pump one and they're like, it's just one gallon
Speaker 1: for the can. You can't get twenty. And I was
Speaker 1: so confused. I'm like, why I can't get twenties? I
Speaker 1: need twenties. It's like it's a gabbling can be like,
Speaker 1: so putting twenty in it? Wake up? Did your car
Speaker 1: broke down? I was like, did you forget? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: was that was a fun night. We didn't go to church.
Speaker 1: We did not make it to church. I prayed. I
Speaker 1: prayed on the side of the road before we got
Speaker 1: in the car with those wife folks. That was the would. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But they were so nice. They were so nice, and
Speaker 1: they were young. They were young adults. They were very young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were younger than us. I feel like, like, where
Speaker 1: y'all coming from this LAG's probably going They're probably going
Speaker 1: to church. You know, that was not going to church.
Speaker 1: They didn't look like it. They didn't seem like the
Speaker 1: churchy type. But okay, that was our She got some
Speaker 1: dumbing stories. She just ain't gonna share that right there.
Speaker 1: So Tamka, before we close out, do you have a
Speaker 1: dumb bit story to share with us? I just recently
Speaker 1: was a dumb bit you know what I'm saying. Oh now,
Speaker 1: all my divorcement. So I guess you know that that
Speaker 1: gul tearing the hair. But I remember it was one
Speaker 1: time where you know, basically I and actually A look
Speaker 1: a little stupid. This is an older story. Let me
Speaker 1: tell this this. I ain't gonna go to currents. So
Speaker 1: me and I act, you know, we had broken up
Speaker 1: or whatever. So he picked me up and we went
Speaker 1: out to eat and me being messy his girlfriend. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm out with your nigga. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We out to eat this and that I'm sending.
Speaker 1: I'm sending like pictures, I'm sneaking on pictures and all this. Right,
Speaker 1: So she calls him right and basically he was he
Speaker 1: looking at his phone. He didn't ask it, so he
Speaker 1: comes to text just flood it through. So do you
Speaker 1: know this nigga got up and left my ass right
Speaker 1: there at that restaurant right so rightfully so lightly got
Speaker 1: up and left my ass hit that restaurant down? I
Speaker 1: want do you hear me? I felt so du But
Speaker 1: I can laugh about that ship down, like I can
Speaker 1: really laugh about that. Then I went I was it
Speaker 1: and we was at off not so I got the
Speaker 1: phone at like go with me. She was like, all right,
Speaker 1: don't go about way. So literally I'm sitting everybody see
Speaker 1: see to me. Everybody knew what was going on. Maybe
Speaker 1: that would be be guilty. I'm just sitting there in
Speaker 1: front of a hot with the ride home because he
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's my dumb by stories because I kind
Speaker 1: of still was messing with him after that, because but
Speaker 1: that told me to stand by then place. I had
Speaker 1: no business texted that girl. I'm telling her what we're
Speaker 1: going on. That's my home, right, You had no business
Speaker 1: with her? Mad? Did you? Man apologized when she was
Speaker 1: hunting on him? Now, ma'am good? Oh damn. So I
Speaker 1: was a dumb bit, so stupid bit all that wrapped
Speaker 1: up it was out Luckily it was out hot. But
Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed. I wouldn't even be I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there eye hoop Ruth christ and more steakhouse like nasty hop.
Speaker 1: In my defense, it didn't matter when we was at
Speaker 1: I was in there with her. I didn't needed her
Speaker 1: to do that. I didn't We could have been at
Speaker 1: Taco Bell and I need to let her know that
Speaker 1: I got my leap that. But but the laugh was
Speaker 1: on me. What's your side? What the hell? That's why? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: both for y'all, Sagittarius, Yeah all right, y'allum. So please, um,
Speaker 1: if you have anything going on that you want people
Speaker 1: to follow, your social media, your businesses, or anything that
Speaker 1: you want to share with everyone, please go ahead and
Speaker 1: plug yourself right now. Okay, Well, thank you guys for
Speaker 1: having me a jan Town. I am on Instagram, am
Speaker 1: at Stylista Hair Company dot com as T Y L
Speaker 1: I S T A H J I r CEO. All right, y'all,
Speaker 1: and she do that Gina curl if y'all want that
Speaker 1: curly curly hair. What I was doing with curl right
Speaker 1: without the win is nice. Yeah. This has been so
Speaker 1: much fun, guys, And thanks A J and TAM for
Speaker 1: having me so you can on Instagram. Still I had
Speaker 1: to thank only one this Parker on Instagram. Okay, hey
Speaker 1: with Carker you can follow me on Instagram, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's been fun. Thank you guys. Yeah, thank y'all
Speaker 1: so much for coming on and talking hair with us.
Speaker 1: We gotta have y'all back. When it get cold, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about I went to hair, some of hair,
Speaker 1: all this ship all the same. All right, y'all listen
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Speaker 1: I know we do a j gonna scare all the
Speaker 1: white people. I'd be responding, be ready to call them
Speaker 1: dumb bitches. Get out of here now. I'll be having
Speaker 1: real responses for people if they had dumb mis want
Speaker 1: to hear it. You can abusing people on the low down. No,
Speaker 1: I know it's all in love. Listen, So Senor, ask
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