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Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who

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Speaker 1: talk back.

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a

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Speaker 2: new episode of We Talk Back, a show dedicated to

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Speaker 2: you niggas and these hoes. That's my new intro. You

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Speaker 2: like it?

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: You niggas and these hoes.

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Speaker 4: Hey, y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's me, Tia Bell.

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nigga and a hoe at the same time,

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Speaker 1: so this show is definitely for me.

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Speaker 2: It's a hybrid.

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Speaker 5: It's a hybrid.

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Speaker 2: It's a me, my re-hoe.

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Speaker 5: Hey, y'all.

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Speaker 3: I love y'all. Thank y'all for tuning in, man. Hey, AJ.

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Speaker 2: Hey, girl. What's going on? How was your weekend?

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Speaker 3: Shit, what did I do this weekend? Oh, my God, baby.

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Speaker 1: Turn one this weekend. We had, like, such a lit

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Speaker 1: party for her. It was really an adult party, honestly. Like,

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Speaker 1: she was sleepy the whole time of the party, honestly.

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Speaker 1: And we was just drinking. We had, like, cocktails, you know,

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Speaker 1: named for her. And it was such a good time.

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Speaker 1: We had so much fun. I was all down bad.

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Speaker 1: I stayed in bed all day Sunday because I was lit.

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Speaker 1: Saturday for a one-year-old birthday party.

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Speaker 5: Shame.

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Speaker 2: That's how it be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For the kids' birthdays. Shit turned into an adult party

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Speaker 2: after six.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Shit, it was an adult party from the time it started.

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Speaker 2: Shame. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What about you? What'd you do this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remember I told y'all last week I was heading

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Speaker 2: to Atlanta this week, so that's what I did all weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Drinking and smoking.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And all the bald-headed, whole shit you could think of. Okay,

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Speaker 2: no threesomes and no shit like that. But all the

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Speaker 2: ratchet shit y'all could think of.

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Speaker 3: Tomato, tomato, tomato.

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Speaker 2: All the bald-headed, whole shit y'all could think of. I

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Speaker 2: was doing it. And my body shut the fuck down

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Y'all notice they've been canceling a lot of flights.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's been flying recently. But by

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Speaker 2: the grace of God, I made it home. My flight

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Speaker 2: was delayed, not canceled. And I just fucked up my day.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta airport is terrible. First of all, it took me

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Speaker 2: an hour to get through security. Just ruined my whole shit.

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Speaker 2: But all in all, it was a good trip. That

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Speaker 2: was my birthday celebration for the most part. So I

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Speaker 2: hung out with my homegirl. We ate a lot of

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Speaker 2: good food. One thing about Atlanta, them motherfuckers got some

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Speaker 2: good food in Atlanta. There's so many restaurants. If you

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Speaker 2: open a business there, that shit is going to thrive

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Speaker 2: because niggas are going to show up. Every place is

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Speaker 2: packed all the time. You ever ate at this steakhouse

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Speaker 2: called Hal's?

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Speaker 5: Mm-mm.

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Speaker 2: They have really good food. It's a vibe. And if

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Speaker 2: you're looking for a white zaddy, that's where you go, ladies.

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: The white zaddies getting off of work with they button

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Speaker 2: up in slacks, they in there. The golf players, they

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Speaker 2: in there. The white zaddies? All the working girls, yes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's a two-floor house. H-A-L apostrophe S.

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Speaker 2: It's two floors full of white zaddies.

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Speaker 3: Did you get one?

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Speaker 2: No, because I was in there with a black zaddy.

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Speaker 2: So no, I didn't get no white zaddy. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: looking for one. But yeah, it was good vibes. Great vibes. Yep.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like fun. I might get me a steak

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Speaker 3: and some white meat on the side.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm joking. Just joking, guys. Let's get into stupid

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Speaker 2: internet news. Child, what we got going on this week?

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Speaker 2: It's a slow week, you don't think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: So apparently the reps from Ripley's Museum is coming for

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Speaker 2: Kim K. Because y'all remember she wore... Marilyn Monroe's famous teardrop,

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Speaker 2: little diamond, little number, little strappy dress for the Met

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Speaker 2: it had a few of the beads, the bedazzled, missing

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Speaker 2: off of it. We're talking about, how old is this dress?

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Speaker 2: 50 years, 60 years old or some shit? Kim K

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Speaker 2: went on a strict diet to lose weight to even

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Speaker 2: and it got some damage, you know?

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Speaker 3: That's what happens when you wear shit, sis.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened when you wear old shit like that

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Speaker 2: that shit is thrift store at this point dry rot

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Speaker 2: at this point imagine y'all trying to come for her

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Speaker 2: about that shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah like i think that's dumb like listen don't let

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Speaker 2: And yeah why you want to wear a dead woman's

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Speaker 2: What type of goddamn conjuring were y'all trying to do

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Speaker 2: that night? Why do you want to wear that dress?

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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming. I thought we might be

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Speaker 3: We can't, bitch.

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Speaker 2: I just want to give the people a different perspective.

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Speaker 2: This is a wild world we living in, right? Y'all

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Speaker 2: crazy and crazy and crazy every fucking day. Why are

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Speaker 2: you wearing this dead woman's dress? It's like, To me.

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Speaker 3: So you won't wear a dead woman shit?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I would wear a replica.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely put on Whitney Houston's fur right now

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Speaker 2: I would do a replica. I would do a replica.

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Speaker 2: I guess I respect the dead a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: I guess. So I'd wear a replica of it. Does

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Speaker 2: she need to wear the actual dress, Marilyn Monroe wore?

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Speaker 2: To me, Kim, baby, yeah, you, you. You not that eye-fucking-conic, man.

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Speaker 3: Come on. No, Kim is iconic now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Not for me. Not to me.

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Speaker 2: As iconic as Marilyn Monroe, are we going to be

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Speaker 3: I doubt it. We won't, but maybe the young people might.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I just don't think so. Okay?

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Speaker 2: I still like Marilyn Monroe posters.

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Speaker 3: She might be the starlet of our time.

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Speaker 2: I can see Beyonce, but we already know that Kim

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Speaker 2: can't even sit with Beyonce. I can see Beyonce on

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Speaker 3: That's debatable, too, to some people.

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Speaker 2: Kim can't sit with Beyonce. You like Beyonce's new song?

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Speaker 2: I love the lyrics. It's not the beat and all that,

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Speaker 2: but the lyrics of it, it gets you going.

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Speaker 1: Drake and Beyonce came out with house music this week.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I need to be rich and doing

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Speaker 3: To be listening to it or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Get some coke sniffed off my ass

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Speaker 2: on the back of a boat. Right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Every time I, like I was listening to Drake's album

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Speaker 1: episode of Martin. What was the white character? And they

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Speaker 2: He was like, oh my God, things are going really

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Speaker 2: well right now. You better get here.

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Speaker 5: Woo!

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Speaker 2: That's who's listening to that album.

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Speaker 6: Why the fuck does woo go with coke? My fucker

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Speaker 6: be like, woo! Trying to score some blow, my guy.

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Speaker 6: You got any blow? I like those lyrics though for Beyonce.

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Speaker 6: That shit like, that motherfucker said, quit that job. Don't

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Speaker 6: be letting people stress you out. I feel like.

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Speaker 2: That's what our generation in particular, that's what we on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I like the song, but I'm not just

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Speaker 2: Down the street. It's the lyrics for me. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the beat and all that. I literally listened to the

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Speaker 2: Not really the music.

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Speaker 3: My ghetto ass need a bass drum. I need a

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Speaker 2: You need them 808s.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need that in the back socket.

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Speaker 2: You know that's the devil, right?

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Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hey, look. I just want y'all to just be knowing stuff.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Y'all know like Pro Tools is what they use in

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Speaker 2: the studios, right? Pro Tools was created by the government.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day, all our music was acoustic. We

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Speaker 2: played instruments. It's just a different frequency. So now that 808,

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Speaker 3: It's a problem.

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Speaker 2: This is why you addicted to that shit. And that's

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Speaker 2: why niggas be popping pills, listening to that shit on

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Speaker 2: the way to kill somebody.

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Speaker 3: Our ancestors, you played drums.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. They played real drums. They weren't

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Speaker 2: playing mechanical drums off of a computer with a fucking

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Speaker 2: evil ass frequency coming through. But yeah.

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Speaker 3: And y'all yawn.

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Speaker 2: It's real, man. Change the music, change the people. That's true.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate this song because I feel like it's

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Speaker 2: a good frequency. Hey guys, know where I can score

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Speaker 2: some blow?

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Speaker 5: Woo!

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Speaker 2: But look, we're going to go ahead and get into

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Speaker 2: the main topic, y'all. Listen, today we want to talk

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Speaker 2: about black hair and black women in relation to their hair.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a major, it's a big thing. It's

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Speaker 2: a big thing for black women, okay? Please don't touch

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Speaker 2: my shit.

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Speaker 1: Y'all can't see me, but I'm about to put my

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Speaker 1: hair in the chair beside me. It's hotter than a

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Speaker 1: motherfucker right now. Let's go to commercial. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back and we'll get into it. Okay, we are back, y'all.

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Speaker 1: And guess what? I got two of my very best

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Speaker 1: friends on the show and we're talking black hair with

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Speaker 1: them and one of them I've known since I was

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Speaker 1: a little girl and we started doing each other's hair

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Speaker 1: like as kids fucking each other's hair up and then

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Speaker 1: one of them I've known for at least seven years

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Speaker 1: and I've been doing her hair the whole time and

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Speaker 1: I love them both very much thank y'all for joining

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Speaker 1: us today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you thanks for the invite thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: So, Stacey, tell our listeners a little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 7: Hi, everyone. I'm Stacey Mitchell.

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Speaker 8: I've been in hairstyles for 21 years, but I started

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Speaker 8: way before then, about four years old, playing.

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Speaker 7: With my Barbies. Mm-hmm. I love it. Can you think

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Speaker 7: of anything else I'd rather do?

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Speaker 3: And you still love it.

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Speaker 3: That's smart. That's smart, smart. And then, Tamika, introduce yourself.

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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Tamika, VA two up, two down.

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Speaker 3: From Virginia.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm from Virginia, live here in Charlotte now.

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Speaker 5: I'm just happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, bitch.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think most stylists, I think I've probably

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Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact.

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Speaker 7: That can happen.

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Speaker 3: Gonna cut your hair and make it look longer bitch.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes it can be like crazy with black women

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Speaker 8: Know, after so many years, I've tried to figure out

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Speaker 3: Where bitches just be happy all the time?

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Speaker 2: Well, they know up front. Like, I can't make a miracle.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talked about it before. And they're always

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Speaker 7: You can't just make blonde hair out of.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Unless it's a wig or a weave, throw that shit

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Speaker 7: But that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I try to be honest as much as possible

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Speaker 1: Tamika, so you're one of my clients. Do you have

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm speaking for the clients now. We done heard

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Speaker 5: So we be, with the customer service, we be leaning.

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Speaker 4: On y'all ass too now because, you know, let us

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Speaker 4: be five minutes late. You're texting, you're calling, and you're

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Speaker 4: on your way. Papa, I was sitting there waiting for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm on my way.

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Speaker 5: So I get it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I guess it's on both sides of the spectrum. Like,

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Speaker 4: side of it. Because I can't really say this with you, Tammy,

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Speaker 4: but I've had other stylists where they literally triple book.

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Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there waiting, like, two hours on top

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Speaker 4: And if I would have did the same thing, if

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Speaker 4: to book with you again, you know, sometimes I feel

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Speaker 4: it comes to sometimes life happens. Sometimes we may be

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Speaker 5: And I get it. That's y'all time.

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Speaker 4: But y'all created that relationship with us. So we can

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Speaker 1: I literally be like, bitch, I'm off. Cause y'all get

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Speaker 1: a text message Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Like you like this?

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Speaker 3: No, bitch, not right now. I don't like nothing right now.

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Speaker 2: I try to.

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Speaker 4: Slide it in now. I'll try to slide it in.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we'll be having a good conversation. I'll

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Speaker 5: Like, bitch, I'm off. Like, shit. I thought it was

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Speaker 5: a side of the head. But yeah, we do that.

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Speaker 5: We get spoiled by you guys and really be trying.

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Speaker 5: And I get it. Y'all need y'all days off too.

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Speaker 5: Peace of mind. We ain't talking about hair today. We

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: And you know what?

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Speaker 1: And in your defense, some of these stylists have gotten

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Speaker 1: come with your hair washed, come with your hair braided down,

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Speaker 1: for you in my experience i've tried to.

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Speaker 6: Say hey i can squeeze you in if you shampoo

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Speaker 2: Hair that's the only way i can get you in

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Speaker 5: I'm like Never.

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Speaker 8: I don't trust my clients to shampoo their hair. I

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Speaker 7: I just can't.

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Speaker 8: But also, what you were saying, Tamika, about stylists with

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Speaker 7: Be on time with you.

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Speaker 2: That means if you have a dinner appointment at 8 o'clock,

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Speaker 2: you can make that appointment.

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Speaker 5: But.

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Speaker 8: And everybody wants that, you know, you want to be

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Speaker 8: to a schedule. So it's always a catch 22 with it,

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Speaker 8: you know? It's like be on time or take me

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Speaker 8: whenever I need you to do me.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah. I didn't think about it like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Or it'll be like you was late, but it don't

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Speaker 1: even be the stylist. It'll be like somebody who was

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Speaker 1: before you was late.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: And I allowed them to come late and now it's

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Speaker 1: what else happened. So now they're like, well, you was

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Speaker 1: You know, it's, but I don't charge for that. I'm

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Speaker 1: not one of, you know, those people like 15 minutes

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Speaker 3: You late after that. I just, that's unfair. I feel

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Speaker 7: It can get out of control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's unfair. Sometimes, sometimes I'm late just cause I ain't shit.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I ain't even gonna lie. Sometimes I be sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well I've been on the other end of it I

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Speaker 8: My eyebrows microbladed and I didn't engage the traffic and

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Speaker 8: she was like let me see if I can move

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Speaker 8: she politely kept my deposit and could not take me

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Speaker 7: Up front it was tough that I ate that hundred

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Speaker 3: A hundred dollars is a lot to.

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Speaker 7: Eat Yes, that was my deposit. Non-refundable.

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Speaker 2: That is some bullshit.

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Speaker 3: I had a bitch trying to fight me over her

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Speaker 3: deposit in turn. For real. She pulled up outside.

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Speaker 2: I was like, girl, I'm not giving you that money back.

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Speaker 7: Oh my God, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to tussle.

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Speaker 3: You wanted to fight, you wanted to tussle. Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: fine because I've been in the gym, bitch.

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Speaker 2: And I'm stressed out about this nigga. You about to

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Speaker 7: Just lock the door.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about our childhood and our hair, like

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Speaker 4: I would say no. It was basically good hair and

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Speaker 4: bad hair type thing. You know, she got good hair

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Speaker 4: if her hair was good. you know, a certain way

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Speaker 4: think growing up, we really embraced our hair like we

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Speaker 4: do now, which is beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Like my daughter, she, you know.

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Speaker 4: She'll rock her natural hair. And, you know, back then

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Speaker 5: Had bad hair. Right.

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Speaker 6: Same.

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Speaker 1: Me and Stacey, I remember, what, sixth grade, we were

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Speaker 5: Oh, yes.

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Speaker 3: Or what was that perm in the box?

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Speaker 2: Motions, just for me.

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Speaker 3: Cream of nature.

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Speaker 1: Whichever one was $ 4.

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Speaker 7: 97.

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Speaker 1: And burning the shit out of our heads.

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Speaker 7: Because if it's not burning, it wasn't working back then.

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Speaker 5: Right. Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm the youngest of three girls. So in

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Speaker 2: I had a nouveau wave and then the Jerry curl

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Speaker 2: So my mom just never got the Jerry curl back

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Speaker 1: From little yeah me too so you're not nobody really

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Speaker 1: consuming also that we're learning now as adults once we

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Speaker 1: stop doing the perms and everything else it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit more time consuming to keep up with your natural

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Speaker 1: hair do y'all think that people are now spending more

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Speaker 7: Absolutely oh yes.

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Speaker 8: Well natural hair costs more in general like the In

447
00:20:38,869 --> 00:20:40,790
Speaker 8: a salon, if you get your hair done and you're natural,

448
00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:42,990
Speaker 8: it costs more than getting your hair done if you're relaxed.

449
00:20:43,609 --> 00:20:46,149
Speaker 8: And then just the amount of products you need. If

450
00:20:46,170 --> 00:20:48,350
Speaker 8: you go to the salon and you have a relaxer

451
00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:50,490
Speaker 8: and you get a wrap, it's just a wrap.

452
00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,410
Speaker 2: I mean, but when you get your hair done now,

453
00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:54,010
Speaker 2: if you're natural, you have to buy a ton of

454
00:20:54,050 --> 00:20:56,410
Speaker 2: products to keep up with it. You know, we sprayed

455
00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:58,090
Speaker 2: a little light oil, Sheena, and kept it going back

456
00:20:58,130 --> 00:20:58,430
Speaker 2: in the day.

457
00:20:58,470 --> 00:21:01,110
Speaker 7: I mean, it was nothing. It's way more now.

458
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,420
Speaker 4: I didn't even know all this stuff would exist with hair,

459
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,210
Speaker 4: like steam treatment, like growing up steam treatments and all that.

460
00:21:08,609 --> 00:21:10,350
Speaker 5: But when I first seen that, I was like, okay, well,

461
00:21:10,430 --> 00:21:12,630
Speaker 5: we're doing some new shit.

462
00:21:12,670 --> 00:21:16,490
Speaker 2: But what if black women, right? Natural hair didn't do

463
00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:20,820
Speaker 2: anything with it. No products. How would, how would, how

464
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,500
Speaker 2: would y'all think our relationships would be if we actually

465
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,590
Speaker 2: walked around with our natural hair without having to do

466
00:21:28,730 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 2: all the manipulation and that we have to do to

467
00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: make it look nice, you know, for our current standards.

468
00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:36,090
Speaker 3: So you mean basically dreadlocks?

469
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:37,950
Speaker 2: But we can still comb it, but it would just,

470
00:21:38,090 --> 00:21:41,730
Speaker 2: everybody would have whatever the natural texture, you know, the

471
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: 4C hair, whatever the other, the spectrum hair is just

472
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,020
Speaker 2: like for real natural. Because even with using other products,

473
00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: is your hair really still natural?

474
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to say, AJ. Like,

475
00:21:57,340 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: is it really still natural hair? You know, because all

476
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,330
Speaker 4: the manipulation of the hair, all this taming the hair,

477
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:10,230
Speaker 4: all this, that's really not the natural state of your hair. Like,

478
00:22:10,890 --> 00:22:13,090
Speaker 4: that hair needed a lot of help to look the

479
00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:18,370
Speaker 4: way it looks, you know? Yes, I feel like No,

480
00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: that definitely would be something where men would be like, no.

481
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 5: Especially men. You know, they would be like, what's going

482
00:22:24,859 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 5: on with that? Like, what's up with your hair?

483
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,470
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into that real quick. You know, I

484
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:32,290
Speaker 2: got a homegirl who... She would always wear sew-ins, wigs,

485
00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:34,909
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And then the guy she got with,

486
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:38,050
Speaker 2: he was asking her to stop. Now, first for me, AJ,

487
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,150
Speaker 2: I give a disclaimer to niggas when I meet them. Look,

488
00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:42,940
Speaker 2: I wear weave all the time. Don't wait a year

489
00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:44,580
Speaker 2: from now to be trying to come at me about

490
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: my motherfucking weave. No, I ain't wearing my hair natural.

491
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:49,820
Speaker 2: If I feel like it, I might, but you won't

492
00:22:49,859 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: have anything to do with that, right? So she changed

493
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,660
Speaker 2: up her style for her dude, right? But then he

494
00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,689
Speaker 2: then realized how much longer it was taking her to

495
00:22:58,730 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: get ready that frustrated him more than her wearing the

496
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: wig so he suggested her to go back to wearing

497
00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:09,340
Speaker 2: weaves just because it was taking her longer to get

498
00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: ready when.

499
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: They had some shit to do so question do y'all

500
00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:14,700
Speaker 1: feel like men are more attracted to women with their

501
00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:16,350
Speaker 1: natural hair or with weave.

502
00:23:17,450 --> 00:23:18,310
Speaker 3: Black women.

503
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:25,770
Speaker 1: That's a hard one quite silence they say.

504
00:23:25,609 --> 00:23:26,310
Speaker 7: One thing.

505
00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:33,130
Speaker 8: They say one thing, you know? Well, I can speak

506
00:23:33,170 --> 00:23:38,710
Speaker 8: for my husband. He loves long weave. He likes a

507
00:23:38,770 --> 00:23:42,450
Speaker 8: short cut. He even likes my sister lots. And I

508
00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:46,980
Speaker 8: was worried about that for sure. But he just wants

509
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,459
Speaker 8: you to look done no matter what. Make sure you

510
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 8: look done. Like, don't come out half-stepping. Whatever it is.

511
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,139
Speaker 7: That's how he feels.

512
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,970
Speaker 1: That's what I'm finding with a lot of men, like,

513
00:23:59,210 --> 00:24:01,190
Speaker 1: Long as it look good. That's what I feel like

514
00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:02,890
Speaker 1: niggas be like. Long as it look nice. I don't

515
00:24:02,910 --> 00:24:05,610
Speaker 1: care if it's natural weave or whatever you got. Long

516
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:06,790
Speaker 1: as it's complimenting you.

517
00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:07,630
Speaker 3: I don't care.

518
00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:09,950
Speaker 2: A lot of men, they say they want natural women,

519
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:13,129
Speaker 2: which there are plenty. There's a type of black woman

520
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: out here for every type of black man. My suggestion

521
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,860
Speaker 2: to men would be, if you don't like weave, don't

522
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: get with a woman that wears weave and then trying

523
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: to change her. If you don't like natural hair.

524
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:29,170
Speaker 2: I mean, if you like natural hair, there's so many

525
00:24:29,230 --> 00:24:32,170
Speaker 2: women now wearing their natural hair in whatever state that

526
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:34,389
Speaker 2: might be in. You could pick one of them. But

527
00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:35,650
Speaker 2: they like the long hair.

528
00:24:35,770 --> 00:24:36,590
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right.

529
00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:38,190
Speaker 7: They do.

530
00:24:38,859 --> 00:24:39,379
Speaker 5: Yeah.

531
00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:42,940
Speaker 4: AJ, to your point, I do. I give that disclaimer

532
00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:45,300
Speaker 4: to like, listen, I wear wings.

533
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 7: I wear bonnets.

534
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:50,430
Speaker 5: I look like meat meals at night if this shit

535
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:51,010
Speaker 5: slide off.

536
00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: So if you don't like that, that's cool. Maybe I'm

537
00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:57,820
Speaker 4: not the woman for you, but that's me. And just

538
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: on a personal note, I just feel like a lot

539
00:24:59,859 --> 00:25:02,020
Speaker 4: of men need to stay out of black woman's business

540
00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: when it comes to hair.

541
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,050
Speaker 5: You know, I have alopecia. Y'all my girls. So I

542
00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,430
Speaker 5: can let y'all know what Tamron knows.

543
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 4: So when you speak a lot of times on okay

544
00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: wearing weaves and stuff like shut the fuck up you

545
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: don't know i wear weave because i got i have

546
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,419
Speaker 4: to for real you know like you don't even know

547
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,060
Speaker 4: what you're talking about like so you you talking about

548
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,220
Speaker 4: shit you only got it's not even your business you

549
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: don't even know what you're talking about be mindful of

550
00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:27,790
Speaker 4: what what you say so because i'm completely up front

551
00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:30,090
Speaker 4: about a lot of shit about me so if i'm

552
00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:33,300
Speaker 4: not that girl for you then that's okay. Like you said,

553
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,820
Speaker 4: it's a lot of girls out here who are completely natural,

554
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 4: who don't wear a wig, who, you know, will be

555
00:25:39,180 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 4: just what you like.

556
00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,550
Speaker 5: But don't try to come over here and try to

557
00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:45,050
Speaker 5: switch me up because I'm good. I'm good with what

558
00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:46,190
Speaker 5: I got going on, you know?

559
00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:49,070
Speaker 1: When I, let's say I'm dating a nigga and I'm

560
00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:50,670
Speaker 1: wearing a wig at the time and let's say I'm

561
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:52,389
Speaker 1: spending the night with him for the first time, I'll

562
00:25:52,410 --> 00:25:52,650
Speaker 1: be like.

563
00:25:52,690 --> 00:25:55,389
Speaker 3: Look, shit about to get different.

564
00:25:57,020 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: My hair is going to be in the bathroom and

565
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to put... My scarf on, and I want

566
00:26:03,660 --> 00:26:05,260
Speaker 1: you to treat that shit like a crown when I

567
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: come out the bathroom, okay?

568
00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:09,500
Speaker 3: Don't be alarmed by my hair. That's going to still

569
00:26:09,540 --> 00:26:12,460
Speaker 3: be in the bathroom when I come out of this bitch.

570
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 4: They got to know. And if you walk in my room,

571
00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:17,310
Speaker 4: I got a whole... Listen, you know how you got

572
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:19,250
Speaker 4: the hook that you lay your hats on?

573
00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:21,470
Speaker 5: That's a whole wig hat.

574
00:26:23,570 --> 00:26:24,870
Speaker 7: So don't be scared.

575
00:26:24,590 --> 00:26:28,270
Speaker 5: If you walk in this room. You see blonde brunettes.

576
00:26:28,290 --> 00:26:30,470
Speaker 2: You see different bitches hanging on a coat rack.

577
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 5: Right.

578
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:35,699
Speaker 1: Listen, I had one of my niggas come in and

579
00:26:35,740 --> 00:26:37,940
Speaker 1: he saw my wig hanging and you know that episode

580
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:39,020
Speaker 1: of Martin where Pam was.

581
00:26:39,310 --> 00:26:40,940
Speaker 3: That ain't no goddamn puppy.

582
00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:44,550
Speaker 1: He started beating the shit out of my wig.

583
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:45,530
Speaker 5: I was like, what?

584
00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:48,450
Speaker 2: Shut up.

585
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:50,750
Speaker 5: What you gonna do is relax over there.

586
00:26:50,770 --> 00:26:53,189
Speaker 3: Right, you better treat her nice. Beat the shit out

587
00:26:53,230 --> 00:26:54,190
Speaker 3: of my wig like that.

588
00:26:56,619 --> 00:26:57,139
Speaker 2: Yo.

589
00:26:59,619 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

590
00:27:00,109 --> 00:27:02,090
Speaker 2: Y'all, let's take a break right quick. We'll be right back.

591
00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:08,550
Speaker 2: I went to Atlanta this weekend. I'm running the streets

592
00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:12,030
Speaker 2: doing bald-headed whole shit. And I went out to lunch

593
00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:15,020
Speaker 2: with one of my guy friends. And I never realized

594
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: he was like a super-duper Kevin Samuels supporter, right? anyway

595
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,310
Speaker 2: I thought he'd get bitches because I feel like Kevin

596
00:27:23,330 --> 00:27:25,150
Speaker 2: Samuels for niggas who don't get bitches but I thought

597
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:29,050
Speaker 2: he'd get bitches I don't know so apparently some of

598
00:27:29,070 --> 00:27:33,350
Speaker 2: his friends have divested out the community and they've moved

599
00:27:33,410 --> 00:27:39,460
Speaker 2: to places like the Philippines they've moved to Colombia to

600
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,500
Speaker 2: get women right because you know for whatever reason they

601
00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: just can't find a suitable black woman in America And

602
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:49,020
Speaker 2: what I was trying to explain to him is that

603
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,850
Speaker 2: these bitches coming from the slums. So if you want

604
00:27:51,890 --> 00:27:54,730
Speaker 2: somebody that you just got to take care of and

605
00:27:54,770 --> 00:27:56,450
Speaker 2: they're not going to say nothing, then yeah, y'all might

606
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:59,210
Speaker 2: need to do that. But we know that these women

607
00:27:59,230 --> 00:28:03,820
Speaker 2: are going to be, you know, archipelagic, darker, lighter, whatever.

608
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: These are going to be women with naturally long hair,

609
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,379
Speaker 2: naturally curly hair. And this is what the standard of

610
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,660
Speaker 2: beauty is, I believe, a lot of times for black men.

611
00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:20,140
Speaker 2: Do y'all think that if Black women in America specifically,

612
00:28:20,220 --> 00:28:24,820
Speaker 2: if all of us had long, naturally curly hair where

613
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,090
Speaker 2: your man can touch your fucking scalp during sex, would

614
00:28:29,130 --> 00:28:31,590
Speaker 2: you think that men would stay within the community more?

615
00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:35,010
Speaker 2: Are men really like that? As far as the aesthetics

616
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:38,230
Speaker 2: of hair, are they that shallow?

617
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 5: I think they're very shallow.

618
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 7: Some are.

619
00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:45,580
Speaker 3: I don't know. Some are, AJ.

620
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:45,780
Speaker 4: Okay.

621
00:28:46,270 --> 00:28:48,090
Speaker 7: I just feel like I don't come across that kind

622
00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:48,570
Speaker 7: of guy.

623
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:51,070
Speaker 8: Like, I mean, I, I see my friends and their

624
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:53,570
Speaker 8: booze or man or whatever. And they're like, don't forget

625
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:54,810
Speaker 8: to put your bonnet on baby.

626
00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:57,770
Speaker 2: You know, like my nigga wore a bonnet to bed.

627
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 7: To real love. I don't wear a bonnet.

628
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:03,580
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm locked up right now, but I mean,

629
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,459
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of support and love. I mean,

630
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,900
Speaker 2: there are some men out there that are just going

631
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,620
Speaker 2: to find a reason to complain because you can also

632
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,930
Speaker 2: make your hair loose curl. I'm a Gina curl stylist.

633
00:29:15,010 --> 00:29:18,540
Speaker 2: If anybody's looking for one, um and so you know

634
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: it can be done i mean lots of people walking

635
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,780
Speaker 2: around with a curl things their natural hair i mean

636
00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:24,740
Speaker 2: if you.

637
00:29:24,540 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 7: Want loose curls you can get us on with loose

638
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:27,770
Speaker 7: curls i mean if they're.

639
00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:29,550
Speaker 2: Gonna find a reason to complain if you have it

640
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:33,950
Speaker 2: it'll be something else yeah i agree for that type.

641
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:37,970
Speaker 3: Of person a lot a lot of niggas is like

642
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:39,970
Speaker 3: what the ass and titties do i don't.

643
00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:48,220
Speaker 4: Care care put it back on your head bitch but.

644
00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:51,500
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna act like once they find out what

645
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:54,380
Speaker 2: those things do that they don't just start going into

646
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:58,590
Speaker 2: some other shit Those other guys talking loud, that's a

647
00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:05,290
Speaker 2: small community. That's just a small group of men. Minority. Apparently,

648
00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:07,550
Speaker 2: Black women, I don't know who the fuck business this is,

649
00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: but whatever. Apparently, we spend $ 473 million annually on hair care. Apparently.

650
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: I found this article on Huffington Post. What is it? HuffPost.

651
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 5: My bad.

652
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: Found this article on HuffPost that says, the narrative surrounding

653
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: black beauty, specifically hair, is changing as black women embrace

654
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,660
Speaker 2: their curls, coils, and kinks. Marketing research backs this shift

655
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: as Mintel reports hair relaxer sales fell 38% between 2012

656
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,070
Speaker 2: and 2017. Conversely, the black hair market is still growing

657
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,660
Speaker 2: each year and is valued at $ 2. 5 billion. So this

658
00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: article does support that because now more black women are

659
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,780
Speaker 2: going natural, we're spending more money on hair, even women

660
00:30:56,820 --> 00:31:01,380
Speaker 2: who wear weave. Because underneath this wig, underneath these tracks,

661
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:06,890
Speaker 2: I'm natural. So you start spending more money on natural

662
00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:10,730
Speaker 2: hair care. For me, I wish I started a company

663
00:31:10,770 --> 00:31:12,970
Speaker 2: where you could sample some shit and send it back

664
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:15,500
Speaker 2: if you don't want it. I know Sally's, if you

665
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,190
Speaker 2: use 30% or less of the product, you can return it.

666
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,380
Speaker 2: So you just want to try and buy some shit.

667
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,170
Speaker 2: But I'm a product junkie. I got so much fucking

668
00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:27,490
Speaker 2: hair products, it's ridiculous.

669
00:31:27,730 --> 00:31:28,010
Speaker 7: Yeah.

670
00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:30,310
Speaker 2: And I feel like if it doesn't, if I try

671
00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:32,330
Speaker 2: it like for a month and it ain't doing what

672
00:31:32,350 --> 00:31:34,030
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to do, I'll discard it

673
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:35,010
Speaker 2: and go buy some other shit.

674
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:36,020
Speaker 5: Right. Yes.

675
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: You're discarded. My shit goes into the bin.

676
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,980
Speaker 2: Not really throw it out. I keep it. I keep

677
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: it in a just being there.

678
00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:46,830
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah.

679
00:31:48,010 --> 00:31:50,090
Speaker 3: Partying with the rest of the shit I ain't using.

680
00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,990
Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to my daughter. She knows everything, anything

681
00:31:55,030 --> 00:31:56,870
Speaker 4: about anything with hair. So I'm going to run it

682
00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:59,210
Speaker 4: by her first. And then I'll be like, okay, should

683
00:31:59,230 --> 00:32:00,430
Speaker 4: I try this? She'll be like, oh yeah, this is

684
00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:00,890
Speaker 4: a good one.

685
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,220
Speaker 5: Then I'll try it. But you're right.

686
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: I wish I could send some of that shit back

687
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,550
Speaker 4: because Just because it works well for somebody, it doesn't

688
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:09,950
Speaker 4: work well for all hair types. Even the hair types

689
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:13,850
Speaker 4: it's supposed to work well for, it's not always that case.

690
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:17,190
Speaker 5: If you could sample it and send it back, that's

691
00:32:17,250 --> 00:32:17,830
Speaker 5: a win-win.

692
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:21,590
Speaker 4: I'll probably buy more shit because I can send it back.

693
00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:26,340
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the younger generation, I just feel

694
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: like they have a different relationship with their hair than

695
00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: we did growing up. These young kids will shave their

696
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,030
Speaker 1: head in a minute and don't give a damn. Like,

697
00:32:35,070 --> 00:32:37,350
Speaker 1: when we were growing up, our hair was like, if

698
00:32:37,390 --> 00:32:39,530
Speaker 1: you lost your hair, like, she has cancer.

699
00:32:39,610 --> 00:32:40,310
Speaker 3: Something is wrong.

700
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:40,650
Speaker 2: Yeah.

701
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:43,690
Speaker 3: Why is her hair bald? You know, that's the only way. Right?

702
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:45,890
Speaker 3: Do y'all agree that kid, like.

703
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: What do you think is the dynamic that changed the

704
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: relationship with their hair?

705
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:50,300
Speaker 7: Us, their parents.

706
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:54,100
Speaker 2: My mom did not play. If she saw a nap,

707
00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:56,780
Speaker 2: it was getting relaxed. If she thought my hair was dry,

708
00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:59,330
Speaker 2: it was getting grease on it. Like, we couldn't get

709
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,190
Speaker 2: in the pool. I mean, we still did.

710
00:33:01,550 --> 00:33:05,540
Speaker 8: But, you know, it was just a completely different... aspect

711
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,860
Speaker 8: well for one it was um it was not called

712
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,730
Speaker 8: unapologetically black back then it was black but be safe

713
00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:16,710
Speaker 8: and make sure you fit in and conform to the

714
00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:20,230
Speaker 8: community standards so that others won't be worried or think

715
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,090
Speaker 8: you look different you know you want to get the

716
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 8: job and you know all that but now it's unapologetically

717
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,420
Speaker 8: black I think that's.

718
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:33,250
Speaker 4: One difference yeah Yeah, I agree. I definitely love how

719
00:33:33,290 --> 00:33:37,290
Speaker 4: these kids embrace their hair. They embrace their looks. They

720
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:40,150
Speaker 4: will shave it. They will color it. They will do whatever.

721
00:33:40,170 --> 00:33:43,630
Speaker 4: And if they want to wear color hair, they don't care.

722
00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:47,860
Speaker 4: If anybody thinks it's ghetto or whatever, that's me. And

723
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: this is what, if I want to wear 30 inches

724
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: down my ass, I'm going to do it because that's

725
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,860
Speaker 4: what I want to do. You know, they, they don't care.

726
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,830
Speaker 4: They like just all like, their self and they're out there.

727
00:33:59,870 --> 00:34:01,950
Speaker 4: And I love it. I tell my kids, and I

728
00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:04,650
Speaker 4: think that does come from us because I hate it

729
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:07,190
Speaker 4: to be sitting on the side, couldn't get in a

730
00:34:07,210 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: pool because I just.

731
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,860
Speaker 5: Got to relax.

732
00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: I was like, well, why the hell did you give

733
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:12,259
Speaker 4: me a relaxer one week before you knew I was

734
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: going to the pool? Now I got to sit on

735
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:15,299
Speaker 4: the side and I can't get in. So I didn't

736
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 4: do that to my kids, you know, like, no, get

737
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,810
Speaker 4: in a pool. You know, I'll figure it out. We'll

738
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:23,089
Speaker 4: do something else with your hair, you know, over these

739
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:24,930
Speaker 4: next couple of months so that you can enjoy it.

740
00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:29,070
Speaker 4: So now they just know that I am not my hair. Literally,

741
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,500
Speaker 4: I'm not my hair. This hair going to conform to

742
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: what the fuck I got going on. Not the other

743
00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:37,140
Speaker 4: way around. Right.

744
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,620
Speaker 3: When I was little, I accidentally fell in that pool. Oops.

745
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,910
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.

746
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:46,270
Speaker 5: Did you get your ass beat when you got.

747
00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:47,070
Speaker 3: Up out of that pool?

748
00:34:47,790 --> 00:34:50,190
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was willing to take that ass whooping though

749
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:51,430
Speaker 1: so I could have some fun.

750
00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:52,370
Speaker 5: That was the worst.

751
00:34:52,450 --> 00:34:52,609
Speaker 7: Oops.

752
00:34:54,580 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 2: I can admit that I was one of those black

753
00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: women who would be going on vacation to the beach

754
00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:02,510
Speaker 2: with a motherfucking lace front wig on for the longest.

755
00:35:03,090 --> 00:35:05,990
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I really enjoy swimming. Like I like,

756
00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:08,850
Speaker 2: like I'm a fish, you know, I like to be

757
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:10,830
Speaker 2: in the fucking water. So now I don't do that shit.

758
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:14,180
Speaker 2: I'm getting me some braids. I had locks just recently.

759
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:17,899
Speaker 2: And it's the most freeing to be able to just

760
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:20,689
Speaker 2: get up and fucking go and Do your edges. Still

761
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:22,569
Speaker 2: got to deal with some shit. Still got to deal

762
00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:25,669
Speaker 2: with finding the good edge control lodge. So you're still

763
00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:29,180
Speaker 2: spending how much money for some fucking edge control. But

764
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: fuck that too.

765
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,140
Speaker 1: Because when I had my locks, I just was letting

766
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: it do it. That was the most like, to be honest, y'all,

767
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: when I had those locks, I didn't think I would

768
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,450
Speaker 1: enjoy them as much as I did. Because typically I'm

769
00:35:42,489 --> 00:35:45,730
Speaker 1: someone who wears long weave all the time. And I

770
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:47,589
Speaker 1: put those locks on my hair and I was like,

771
00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:48,870
Speaker 1: I get up in the morning.

772
00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:54,250
Speaker 2: And I'm going to activate a little fucking leave-in conditioner

773
00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:55,910
Speaker 2: on that shit and just go.

774
00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:58,259
Speaker 3: That was the best shit. I can't wait to get

775
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,549
Speaker 3: them back.

776
00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:01,420
Speaker 2: And then you give your time. Your scalp has access

777
00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: to the fucking sun. You can oil your shit. I

778
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,980
Speaker 2: can't do nothing with this shit plastered on my fucking forehead.

779
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:15,810
Speaker 1: In the summertime, I feel like Black women, we struggle

780
00:36:15,830 --> 00:36:19,450
Speaker 1: the most with our hair in the summer months, especially

781
00:36:19,489 --> 00:36:22,590
Speaker 1: people living in the South, because the heat is so

782
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:25,670
Speaker 1: trying with any hairstyle.

783
00:36:25,690 --> 00:36:27,469
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn what kind of hairstyle you got.

784
00:36:27,489 --> 00:36:31,219
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go ahead and shave my head. If

785
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I had a cute head shape, I promise you I

786
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: might shave my head by balls.

787
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:38,330
Speaker 4: Mine is a cone at the top I got a

788
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,980
Speaker 4: cone so that ain't gonna work but I took this

789
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: weave off and put it in the front seat and

790
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,299
Speaker 4: put the seatbelt on this shit plenty of times in.

791
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: The summertime come on sit.

792
00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 6: Back sit your ass back god damn it's too.

793
00:36:55,110 --> 00:37:01,029
Speaker 8: Hot it's too hot.

794
00:36:59,770 --> 00:37:04,270
Speaker 1: Just be the helmet in the seatbelt alright.

795
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:08,150
Speaker 2: Y'all so listen recently did y'all see saucy santana at

796
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:11,350
Speaker 2: the uh there was a pride concert a pride parade

797
00:37:11,390 --> 00:37:14,029
Speaker 2: or something going on in texas recently and his uh

798
00:37:14,170 --> 00:37:17,750
Speaker 2: his commentary in regards to he didn't say black women

799
00:37:17,790 --> 00:37:19,700
Speaker 2: he just was saying bitches and hoes but we know

800
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: who usually who the fuck they talking about so um

801
00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:26,900
Speaker 2: let me read his commentary right quick right so santana

802
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: told the crowd that gays run the world because when

803
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: them bitches need their hair done they call the gays

804
00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:35,989
Speaker 2: When they need a stylist, them hoes call the gays.

805
00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:38,740
Speaker 2: When they need their makeup done, they call the gays.

806
00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: When them niggas, when that, what do you say? When

807
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: the dog ass baby daddies, hold on. When they need

808
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,170
Speaker 2: advice about their dog ass baby daddies, they call the gays.

809
00:37:52,090 --> 00:37:54,489
Speaker 2: He also went on to say that how, you know,

810
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:57,790
Speaker 2: gay men are the blueprint. How y'all feel about that?

811
00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:04,969
Speaker 4: Hmm. Duplicated, never originated. No, I mean, I definitely feel

812
00:38:04,989 --> 00:38:08,110
Speaker 4: like a lot of men out here slaying hair, but

813
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:10,469
Speaker 4: that shit came back from us. You know, that came

814
00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:13,250
Speaker 4: back from us. Give credit where it's due. You know,

815
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:18,290
Speaker 4: that's how I feel. Growing up, it was women doing hair.

816
00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:19,130
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong.

817
00:38:20,010 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: It may have been a couple men sprinkled in, but

818
00:38:23,570 --> 00:38:26,470
Speaker 4: that wasn't, that's not my core where I saw where

819
00:38:26,590 --> 00:38:30,819
Speaker 4: men were running the show. Now, again, I, I'll give

820
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:34,109
Speaker 4: them the male stylist. They doing their thing. But I

821
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,190
Speaker 4: feel like that's far fetched, in my opinion.

822
00:38:36,969 --> 00:38:40,930
Speaker 2: I've had clients tell me that lots of clients or

823
00:38:40,989 --> 00:38:43,969
Speaker 2: just people in general tell me that they're women. These

824
00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:46,770
Speaker 2: are women only said that their favorite stylist was a man,

825
00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:47,630
Speaker 2: gay or straight.

826
00:38:48,969 --> 00:38:51,270
Speaker 8: I think a lot of times for women, it just

827
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:54,390
Speaker 8: makes you feel better when a man does it. I

828
00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:56,549
Speaker 8: don't know why, but that's just what I've seen in

829
00:38:56,930 --> 00:39:01,410
Speaker 8: the past. um I know plenty of wonderful talented female

830
00:39:01,450 --> 00:39:04,700
Speaker 8: hairstylists and makeup artists that do an amazing job I

831
00:39:04,739 --> 00:39:08,620
Speaker 8: think it is a minority for um gay men to

832
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 8: be stylists so it's like a trophy you know in

833
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 8: a sense but I think it's just so many women

834
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 8: doing hair that it's just awesome that they have a

835
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 8: man or I don't know that's my little two cents

836
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,259
Speaker 8: I don't know I think it's exaggerated though.

837
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,650
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would rather for a woman, I feel

838
00:39:23,650 --> 00:39:27,049
Speaker 4: more comfortable with sis doing my older woman doing my

839
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:30,060
Speaker 4: hair just me you know because I feel like she

840
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: understands my hair and you know I feel like we

841
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,819
Speaker 4: can just relate on hair and not saying a man

842
00:39:36,860 --> 00:39:39,980
Speaker 4: can't do it but just my preference I feel I

843
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,810
Speaker 4: feel more comfortable coming there looking fucked up and let

844
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:48,009
Speaker 4: you know a woman do my hair yeah And.

845
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,750
Speaker 2: We also know that the salon oftentimes is a damn

846
00:39:51,050 --> 00:39:53,509
Speaker 2: therapy office too. So I can't have the same type

847
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:57,830
Speaker 2: of conversations with this male stylist that I might have

848
00:39:57,910 --> 00:40:03,450
Speaker 2: with my home girl slash female stylist. You know what

849
00:40:03,489 --> 00:40:06,669
Speaker 2: I'm saying? So that's another aspect of it. You know,

850
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:09,410
Speaker 2: with Saucy Santana, you know, I really feel like this

851
00:40:09,469 --> 00:40:15,259
Speaker 2: is like the highest form of patriarchy possible. what we're

852
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: seeing right now. And I feel like a black woman

853
00:40:16,980 --> 00:40:19,580
Speaker 2: need to do a little bit better job at fucking

854
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:23,109
Speaker 2: gatekeeping at this point, because we empower and we, we,

855
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:26,450
Speaker 2: not these people feel entitled and take offense by me

856
00:40:26,489 --> 00:40:29,970
Speaker 2: saying these people, I don't give a fuck. Okay. Okay.

857
00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:34,250
Speaker 2: It's the highest form of patriarchy. Cause imagine a man

858
00:40:34,330 --> 00:40:36,610
Speaker 2: being able to tell a woman, bitch, I'm you because

859
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:37,300
Speaker 2: I feel like it.

860
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:38,370
Speaker 4: Right.

861
00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:41,830
Speaker 2: The fuck is that? And that's what's happening.

862
00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:44,550
Speaker 5: So because that's a new wave. Exactly.

863
00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:49,030
Speaker 2: So, How could you possibly be the blueprint of anything

864
00:40:49,070 --> 00:40:51,870
Speaker 2: when we literally birth you niggas?

865
00:40:52,410 --> 00:40:53,450
Speaker 3: Birth you.

866
00:40:53,469 --> 00:40:57,870
Speaker 2: So imagine a grown man getting up there or whatever

867
00:40:57,910 --> 00:41:03,219
Speaker 2: he identifies as. To me, it's... Can I use this word? Heterophobic?

868
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: Is that a word?

869
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: Is that a thing? You might have made it up

870
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,299
Speaker 3: just now.

871
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,750
Speaker 2: Because it seems a little heterophobic. Are we experiencing some heterophobia?

872
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:18,690
Speaker 2: And is it possible for a heterosexual person to cancel

873
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:21,020
Speaker 2: a gay person? Because we usually see them canceling the

874
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: fuck out of our ass for one little commentary. Can

875
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:27,140
Speaker 2: we do that? Y'all scared to talk about that?

876
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:27,779
Speaker 5: No.

877
00:41:28,140 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 7: Okay.

878
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: I'm offended.

879
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,950
Speaker 1: I was offended by what he said. You know, listen,

880
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,810
Speaker 1: I love my gay girls, guys, whatever you identify.

881
00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:38,150
Speaker 3: I love them. I love when they do hair, they slay.

882
00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:39,830
Speaker 2: They do. Like, even with dancing, they slay.

883
00:41:39,850 --> 00:41:41,190
Speaker 5: They're going to dance their ass off, too.

884
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:41,950
Speaker 2: But.

885
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,100
Speaker 1: But what he said was offensive to me as a

886
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: woman and as a hairstylist.

887
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,150
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, come on now. I'm still a woman.

888
00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:53,950
Speaker 1: And we are the blueprint. We literally birth y'all. We

889
00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: birth everybody, man or woman. We birth everybody.

890
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,149
Speaker 3: So, Go ahead and drop Nicki Minaj. All you bitches

891
00:42:01,210 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: is my son. Drop that in there real quick.

892
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,900
Speaker 4: And your sons are my step-sons.

893
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,460
Speaker 7: That part.

894
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,660
Speaker 2: You ain't my son. You my motherfucking step-son.

895
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: Right.

896
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: Right.

897
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: So I was offended by what he said. I mean,

898
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:17,750
Speaker 1: I get what he's trying to say, trying to hit at,

899
00:42:17,810 --> 00:42:18,850
Speaker 1: but I mean.

900
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:21,469
Speaker 3: It's a better way to say it because we birthed you, baby.

901
00:42:21,489 --> 00:42:24,450
Speaker 5: And it's not true either. It's just not true. You know,

902
00:42:24,469 --> 00:42:25,530
Speaker 5: that might be the fad.

903
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:26,870
Speaker 3: Like, how can you be the blueprint?

904
00:42:26,969 --> 00:42:29,650
Speaker 5: The blueprint, that's not even true.

905
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:32,620
Speaker 2: That was a reach, you know?

906
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: He grabbed Jesus' foot on that one.

907
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:39,860
Speaker 2: And he, look, he didn't apologize. He went on to

908
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: tweet fake woke-ass bitches. People don't care about old tweets.

909
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: The internet have this weird thing with power, thinking they

910
00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:49,129
Speaker 2: have the power to cancel someone. Newsflash, you don't. Y'all

911
00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:53,230
Speaker 2: be thinking y'all have someone by the balls about situations

912
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:55,029
Speaker 2: you don't give a damn about. We give a damn

913
00:42:55,070 --> 00:42:57,500
Speaker 2: about this situation. And we need an apology.

914
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,020
Speaker 7: That's crazy.

915
00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned. We do. And I don't

916
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: need no apology from him.

917
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:06,220
Speaker 1: It's okay. He can feel how he want to feel

918
00:43:06,340 --> 00:43:08,820
Speaker 1: about it. But at the end of the day, we'll

919
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:12,530
Speaker 1: always be the blueprint. If we stopped fucking today, everybody

920
00:43:12,570 --> 00:43:13,030
Speaker 1: would die.

921
00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:15,410
Speaker 2: And the world would end. I don't know now.

922
00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:18,580
Speaker 3: That's the blueprint, baby. They definitely make.

923
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,299
Speaker 2: The kids in the lab, but they probably AI. They

924
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: ain't no fucking real humans.

925
00:43:22,219 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 5: There'll be some iRobots.

926
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,430
Speaker 7: That's crazy.

927
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:30,710
Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence all day. But it's crazy because, you know, he's...

928
00:43:30,770 --> 00:43:31,109
Speaker 2: Never mind.

929
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:32,649
Speaker 7: I'm not even going to go there, but.

930
00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:34,390
Speaker 2: Go.

931
00:43:34,430 --> 00:43:34,990
Speaker 3: Go there.

932
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: Go there. I can't always be the only one going there.

933
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:39,020
Speaker 3: Go there.

934
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,700
Speaker 7: I love... I like his music.

935
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: It's fun.

936
00:43:41,380 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 8: I do appreciate all the male stylists out there and

937
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:48,310
Speaker 8: makeup artists, but... I mean, it's a lot of the time,

938
00:43:48,370 --> 00:43:52,850
Speaker 8: it's like things mimicking what I do, how I wear

939
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:56,170
Speaker 8: my hair, how I arch my eyebrows, you know?

940
00:43:56,210 --> 00:44:00,340
Speaker 7: So maybe I'm the blueprint. You know?

941
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,339
Speaker 6: You are.

942
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: Right.

943
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 7: You are.

944
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,340
Speaker 3: You are the blueprint.

945
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,700
Speaker 1: I feel like every male stylist, they look up to some,

946
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: they idolize some woman.

947
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: Mariah Carey, Beyonce.

948
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: They idolize a woman. You know, so I don't understand

949
00:44:17,860 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: how you can be the blueprint.

950
00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

951
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,170
Speaker 2: The only thing I can.

952
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:23,190
Speaker 3: And it's popping.

953
00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:23,410
Speaker 2: Right.

954
00:44:23,469 --> 00:44:24,149
Speaker 3: It's birthing kids.

955
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:27,569
Speaker 2: Look, the one thing I will give them. Okay. The

956
00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:32,330
Speaker 2: face beat that definitely came from the trans community. Black

957
00:44:32,350 --> 00:44:35,529
Speaker 2: women in particular were never wearing that much heavy ass makeup.

958
00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:36,100
Speaker 7: And all the tricks.

959
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: My homegirl, her daughter.

960
00:44:38,140 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

961
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: My homegirl, her daughter FaceTime over the weekend after somebody

962
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,910
Speaker 2: did her makeup. And I'm like, who's that? Who the

963
00:44:44,930 --> 00:44:49,609
Speaker 2: fuck is that? She looked like a drag queen. That's

964
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:52,529
Speaker 2: how heavy this makeup was. That's how heavy the contouring was.

965
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:56,299
Speaker 2: And she's a beautiful ass girl, young woman. Like, you

966
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,340
Speaker 2: don't need that much makeup. They need that much makeup

967
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:01,980
Speaker 2: to look like us. But to be a natural woman,

968
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,940
Speaker 2: you don't, makeup is just supposed to like, you know,

969
00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:07,660
Speaker 2: it's just supposed to be like a little enhancement.

970
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: An enhancement.

971
00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:10,339
Speaker 2: It's not supposed to make you look like a whole

972
00:45:10,420 --> 00:45:14,899
Speaker 2: nother person. That's where we kind of get fucked up.

973
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: For pictures, but to be walking around in real life?

974
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:20,860
Speaker 7: It's what makes you happy.

975
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,910
Speaker 8: That's the whole basis of the beauty industry.

976
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:27,489
Speaker 2: But were we always wearing that heavy makeup like that?

977
00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:29,469
Speaker 2: Were we always wearing heavy makeup like that?

978
00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:30,670
Speaker 7: No, but styles change.

979
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:32,350
Speaker 2: Or did that come from that community?

980
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:33,049
Speaker 3: I feel like.

981
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:35,270
Speaker 3: I feel like.

982
00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: in like the 90s if you go back to early

983
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: 90s and 80s they were doing like strips of pink

984
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: hair and blue and it was like real.

985
00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: Heavy that's what I'm talking about Whitney.

986
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:55,089
Speaker 4: Was more true yeah but Whitney was more you know

987
00:45:55,230 --> 00:45:57,629
Speaker 4: Whitney was kind of more on the other side with

988
00:45:57,670 --> 00:46:01,050
Speaker 4: the you know to me with the makeup and stuff

989
00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:03,930
Speaker 4: when I looked at us we mainly had on some

990
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:06,630
Speaker 4: lip liner Eyebrows.

991
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:08,130
Speaker 5: Eyeliner. Not even lip liner.

992
00:46:08,570 --> 00:46:08,810
Speaker 3: Eyeliner.

993
00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: A little fake mole. And then when we spice it up,

994
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,540
Speaker 4: we do a red lip. You know, that was.

995
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,510
Speaker 3: You talking about, like, 90s.

996
00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:20,020
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, like, the 80s when they were, like, putting, like,

997
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: heavy blush.

998
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:27,770
Speaker 3: And heavy blue eyeshadow on their eyes. And, like, it was...

999
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,260
Speaker 3: Hot pink. It was bright.

1000
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: But we're doing all the contouring.

1001
00:46:32,020 --> 00:46:33,779
Speaker 3: I just think it just changes with the time.

1002
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,460
Speaker 2: The contouring for the face hair is to give a

1003
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:40,850
Speaker 2: higher cheekbone. Most women naturally have that cheekbone, right? So

1004
00:46:40,989 --> 00:46:45,050
Speaker 2: that lift, that doesn't come from women. That extra lift,

1005
00:46:45,110 --> 00:46:48,330
Speaker 2: that nose contouring and all that shit, that's how we

1006
00:46:48,350 --> 00:46:50,890
Speaker 2: look naturally. A lot of us.

1007
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:53,330
Speaker 7: But not if you gain weight and you need to

1008
00:46:53,350 --> 00:46:53,830
Speaker 7: get it back.

1009
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:54,610
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1010
00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:57,859
Speaker 1: Because, yeah, my shit, if I turn to the side,

1011
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,890
Speaker 1: it ain't naturally like that no more.

1012
00:47:00,210 --> 00:47:00,530
Speaker 5: Yes.

1013
00:47:01,730 --> 00:47:04,890
Speaker 2: My shit ain't naturally like that no more.

1014
00:47:05,590 --> 00:47:06,730
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm thankful for that.

1015
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 7: I'm thankful for all that contouring, yes.

1016
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,540
Speaker 3: Yes, me too. Because, baby.

1017
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,290
Speaker 7: A lot of the tricks you used did come from you.

1018
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:20,029
Speaker 4: Oh yeah i agree with that yeah sometimes like she

1019
00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,910
Speaker 4: sometimes can be a bit much but i do appreciate

1020
00:47:22,969 --> 00:47:24,500
Speaker 4: some of those especially of this.

1021
00:47:24,410 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: Part yes honey that's my favorite tammy taught me that shit.

1022
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,819
Speaker 4: I'm gonna contour my nose because i keep my nose

1023
00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:39,070
Speaker 4: but this chin part i thank you thank you sir

1024
00:47:39,170 --> 00:47:42,420
Speaker 4: for a for getting me right with the chant.

1025
00:47:42,820 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying?

1026
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 5: My chant, the second one don't need to be a

1027
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: part of everything, you know?

1028
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:51,210
Speaker 2: It don't need to be a part of nothing in

1029
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:52,110
Speaker 2: my life, honestly.

1030
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:53,570
Speaker 3: That second chant can go to hell.

1031
00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:55,490
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1032
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:56,230
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1033
00:47:56,250 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh, goodness. So let me ask y'all this.

1034
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,230
Speaker 1: In the Black community, all of our Most of our

1035
00:48:04,270 --> 00:48:08,049
Speaker 1: products and hair, it comes from hair stores that are

1036
00:48:08,130 --> 00:48:12,910
Speaker 1: ran by Asians in our community where they don't really

1037
00:48:13,489 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: invest any money back into the Black community. After you

1038
00:48:16,380 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: spend that money in that hair store, that money does

1039
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: not recirculate in our neighborhoods.

1040
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:23,580
Speaker 3: How do y'all feel about that?

1041
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:25,540
Speaker 7: I don't like it.

1042
00:48:25,940 --> 00:48:26,900
Speaker 3: Does it make you upset?

1043
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 7: It does. It's a monopoly.

1044
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: So when you go to a Black-owned hair store, the

1045
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: prices are... astronomical you know and you when you think

1046
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:39,989
Speaker 2: about you know people who are buying that who don't

1047
00:48:40,030 --> 00:48:41,890
Speaker 2: go to the hair salon and buy all their products

1048
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:44,009
Speaker 2: and do their kids hair at home it can it

1049
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:47,590
Speaker 2: can't sometimes it's not affordable to always invest in the

1050
00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:50,870
Speaker 2: black hair stores that's the toughest part because if we

1051
00:48:50,910 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: could get more it cost us more to do business

1052
00:48:55,060 --> 00:48:58,060
Speaker 2: right it costs more we could afford it more than

1053
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,100
Speaker 2: we would but it is unfortunate i know a lot

1054
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,460
Speaker 2: of people who have navigate their life around never going

1055
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,299
Speaker 2: to Asian owned businesses because they don't invest back into

1056
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,140
Speaker 2: the black community.

1057
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 5: Right.

1058
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,460
Speaker 2: I try my best. I mean, even if you open

1059
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:13,810
Speaker 2: a shop, you still have to go to them for

1060
00:49:13,810 --> 00:49:17,740
Speaker 2: them products. Most everything is produced in you know, in China.

1061
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: You know, the tools and stuff that we use, maybe

1062
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: not so much the hair products because it's like I

1063
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: know there's a lot of black women now have natural

1064
00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: hair care lines and it's just from natural fruits and

1065
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:31,180
Speaker 2: berries and roots and shit. Right. But like tools like cones,

1066
00:49:31,630 --> 00:49:34,669
Speaker 2: all this jewelry, all this stuff they do to Kate,

1067
00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:36,190
Speaker 2: even the music in the goddamn store.

1068
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:36,410
Speaker 4: A lot.

1069
00:49:36,430 --> 00:49:38,730
Speaker 2: They got gospel music and they got rap going on

1070
00:49:38,770 --> 00:49:42,029
Speaker 2: in the damn hair store. And if your total comes

1071
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:45,180
Speaker 2: out to $ 1. 12 and you don't have them two pennies,

1072
00:49:45,219 --> 00:49:46,900
Speaker 2: they will send your ass to the fucking car. You

1073
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,580
Speaker 2: can't even get two pennies from the Asians inside their stores.

1074
00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:54,340
Speaker 2: I would like to challenge more black women to try

1075
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: and shop black. There's some black online stores, which would

1076
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,790
Speaker 2: be a little bit cheaper for us to do. Maybe

1077
00:50:01,810 --> 00:50:03,290
Speaker 2: it might take a little bit longer for you to

1078
00:50:03,310 --> 00:50:06,790
Speaker 2: get your products. But that's something we can do in

1079
00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:07,370
Speaker 2: our community.

1080
00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:08,069
Speaker 4: Right.

1081
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,540
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be mad at the Asian people in

1082
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: the black community if they put their money back into

1083
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:19,660
Speaker 1: the community. That money circulated more in our community, but

1084
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,060
Speaker 1: it doesn't. They take it to their own. Like our

1085
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,810
Speaker 1: dollar leaves instantly when we invested in that. And we

1086
00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:27,490
Speaker 1: spend so much money in there.

1087
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:30,310
Speaker 2: They're just now, you know, as of I'll say what,

1088
00:50:30,330 --> 00:50:33,149
Speaker 2: the last 10 years or so, starting to hire black

1089
00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:36,969
Speaker 2: women to work inside their stores. We couldn't even get

1090
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:39,750
Speaker 2: a job in there. They follow you around the store,

1091
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:40,750
Speaker 2: which I do.

1092
00:50:40,830 --> 00:50:41,450
Speaker 3: People steal.

1093
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:45,100
Speaker 2: Okay. People do steal. So I don't, I can't fault

1094
00:50:45,140 --> 00:50:46,900
Speaker 2: them for that, but fighting and putting your hands on

1095
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: people for a couple of dollars. No.

1096
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 7: Right.

1097
00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: I used to, I used to steal at the hair store.

1098
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: So your picture was up there. You had your picture.

1099
00:50:59,950 --> 00:51:02,109
Speaker 1: Remember them socks with the balls on the back? Boy,

1100
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:04,690
Speaker 1: I used to rob their ass blind for them little balls.

1101
00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:06,930
Speaker 1: I had ball socks to go with every outfit, bitch.

1102
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: Don't play with me.

1103
00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: I had a red ball, blue ball.

1104
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:13,980
Speaker 3: I didn't pay for any of that shit.

1105
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,219
Speaker 5: That's the least they can do.

1106
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 7: That's the least they can do.

1107
00:51:18,739 --> 00:51:23,250
Speaker 2: That's reparations, hoe. I will take these ball socks.

1108
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,180
Speaker 7: I try to have everything that my clients need in

1109
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,740
Speaker 7: the salon.

1110
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: Brushes, combs, satin pillowcases, styling products, whatever I use, I

1111
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,509
Speaker 2: sell so they don't have to go there. But that's

1112
00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:42,509
Speaker 2: just also just business marketing for my own self. But

1113
00:51:43,110 --> 00:51:44,550
Speaker 2: I have everything I use so.

1114
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:46,590
Speaker 7: They can get. That helps.

1115
00:51:47,810 --> 00:51:49,450
Speaker 3: Do you not get it from, do you not go

1116
00:51:49,469 --> 00:51:50,630
Speaker 3: into like Asian online stores?

1117
00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:53,169
Speaker 2: No, my products are professional or, but I can say

1118
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:56,180
Speaker 2: if I order it in bulk, from somewhere, it's probably

1119
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,220
Speaker 2: going to come from China.

1120
00:51:57,260 --> 00:51:59,900
Speaker 7: I mean, everything does. So I'm not like boycotting.

1121
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,259
Speaker 2: At least you're not paying that premium price though from

1122
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:03,410
Speaker 2: having to go to a hair store.

1123
00:52:03,489 --> 00:52:04,629
Speaker 7: I'm a small business.

1124
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:06,469
Speaker 8: I'd rather my clients come to my small business and

1125
00:52:06,489 --> 00:52:08,570
Speaker 8: support me than going to the Asian hair store and

1126
00:52:08,590 --> 00:52:10,810
Speaker 8: buying it, even though we probably all got it somewhere

1127
00:52:10,850 --> 00:52:12,050
Speaker 8: from the same place somewhat.

1128
00:52:12,930 --> 00:52:15,150
Speaker 2: But my products are professional and they do not come

1129
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:18,410
Speaker 2: from China. But brushes, combs, I don't know where they

1130
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:18,730
Speaker 2: come from.

1131
00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:19,310
Speaker 7: They probably do.

1132
00:52:19,330 --> 00:52:19,469
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1133
00:52:20,310 --> 00:52:23,419
Speaker 2: Yeah. Y'all know they passed that last year. They passed

1134
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: like the, it's not called the Asian hate bill. It's

1135
00:52:25,540 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: like the COVID, the COVID anti-hate bill, but it's for Asians,

1136
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:40,770
Speaker 2: Island Pacific, Pacific Island, whatever. Right. Pacific. You know, I'm

1137
00:52:40,810 --> 00:52:41,410
Speaker 2: Geechee bitch.

1138
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:42,089
Speaker 5: Right.

1139
00:52:42,250 --> 00:52:49,190
Speaker 2: So, and they paint the narrative that as black people,

1140
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: that's been attacking the Asian community when we clearly see

1141
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: that law came into play after a white man shot

1142
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,710
Speaker 2: up a massage spa in Atlanta, right? If you are

1143
00:53:01,730 --> 00:53:04,489
Speaker 2: that afraid of black people, why are y'all still in

1144
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:09,290
Speaker 2: our communities? I'm confused. If there's really a problem between

1145
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:12,610
Speaker 2: Asians and black people, how are your businesses still thriving

1146
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,050
Speaker 2: in black communities?

1147
00:53:16,670 --> 00:53:19,210
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so much them that paint

1148
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:21,990
Speaker 1: the narrative that it's black people as it is the media.

1149
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:24,890
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it's like Asians and

1150
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:27,370
Speaker 1: black community is like, Oh, it's the black folks. No,

1151
00:53:27,550 --> 00:53:31,620
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a small sample size to see how

1152
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they feel about us by the way they treat us

1153
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,020
Speaker 1: in their establishments.

1154
00:53:35,380 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: Y'all don't think so?

1155
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 8: No, I have, I have Asian clients. I feel like,

1156
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:44,170
Speaker 8: I don't think that they're afraid of us at all.

1157
00:53:44,590 --> 00:53:46,270
Speaker 8: I think they look at us dead in our eyes

1158
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 8: like regular people. I think that that's just something that

1159
00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:52,060
Speaker 8: is a narrative that's put out there.

1160
00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:55,259
Speaker 2: It's like white supremacy, right? I think it's something that

1161
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:57,380
Speaker 2: people just want to push at times to make it

1162
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,230
Speaker 2: another thing that we're doing wrong. But no, in general,

1163
00:54:02,830 --> 00:54:04,590
Speaker 2: when I walk into the hair store, I never feel

1164
00:54:05,110 --> 00:54:08,969
Speaker 2: like they're afraid at all. I mean, sometimes I feel

1165
00:54:09,010 --> 00:54:13,270
Speaker 2: like my business isn't welcomed. or wanted or appreciated. That's

1166
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:16,790
Speaker 2: the word, appreciated. But I never felt like they were afraid.

1167
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:18,529
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

1168
00:54:19,010 --> 00:54:22,650
Speaker 3: Afraid, right. And then I have Asian friends.

1169
00:54:22,830 --> 00:54:26,529
Speaker 1: I have Asian homegirls and I don't receive that from

1170
00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:28,330
Speaker 1: the people I know, obviously.

1171
00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:31,819
Speaker 3: A lot of them, like, low-key be kind of like niggas.

1172
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 7: I have an Asian friend and she's definitely one of

1173
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:37,660
Speaker 7: the realest. I love her. So.

1174
00:54:40,969 --> 00:54:42,570
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a real narrative.

1175
00:54:42,930 --> 00:54:43,219
Speaker 6: Right.

1176
00:54:43,340 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: It's more than likely, definitely something the media is pushing,

1177
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: a narrative, for sure. How do y'all feel about, did

1178
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,339
Speaker 2: y'all see this video on Instagram? This white girl, her

1179
00:54:54,380 --> 00:54:57,410
Speaker 2: name is Alex Von Dutch. And this is something, Tam,

1180
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:59,690
Speaker 2: we could have talked about in Stupid Internet News, Chad,

1181
00:54:59,710 --> 00:55:03,830
Speaker 2: this bitch, a couple weeks ago. But she's seen on,

1182
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:06,930
Speaker 2: she's like TikTok. I don't know if she's a singer, whatever.

1183
00:55:06,969 --> 00:55:10,569
Speaker 2: She has music in her handle. on TikTok and Instagram,

1184
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:14,609
Speaker 2: but I don't know what exactly she does, but she's

1185
00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:19,650
Speaker 2: on TikTok mostly. And she had that video posing a

1186
00:55:19,690 --> 00:55:24,150
Speaker 2: question to black women. It went viral. She was asking

1187
00:55:24,310 --> 00:55:30,730
Speaker 2: why black women don't feel supported by black men. Did

1188
00:55:30,770 --> 00:55:34,090
Speaker 2: you guys see that? But she's seen, she has single

1189
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:35,890
Speaker 2: ease twists in her head. Like she has like a

1190
00:55:35,930 --> 00:55:40,670
Speaker 2: black hairstyle, right? And she was basically posing all these questions.

1191
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:43,730
Speaker 2: Supposedly she's a Kevin Samuel supporter. Also, she says he

1192
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:46,549
Speaker 2: was her mentor. She would talk to him often. So

1193
00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: it's almost like people are creating platforms off of triggering

1194
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,980
Speaker 2: black women about whatever. Maybe some fucking hair, our relationships

1195
00:55:59,020 --> 00:56:01,930
Speaker 2: with black men. all this shit, but how do y'all

1196
00:56:01,950 --> 00:56:05,450
Speaker 2: feel about, and she's appropriate in playing a black woman

1197
00:56:05,489 --> 00:56:08,410
Speaker 2: while doing this. I feel very supported by a black man.

1198
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:12,750
Speaker 2: So she's definitely not talking to me. I think that

1199
00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:18,870
Speaker 2: people try to push a narrative once again. I mean,

1200
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:20,290
Speaker 2: do y'all feel.

1201
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:21,009
Speaker 7: Supported by black men?

1202
00:56:22,510 --> 00:56:25,950
Speaker 2: So I don't, yeah, I do. I think that as

1203
00:56:25,989 --> 00:56:29,109
Speaker 2: a collective, maybe there's something there as a, you know,

1204
00:56:30,370 --> 00:56:32,770
Speaker 2: Because you know, there's the whole thing where black women

1205
00:56:32,830 --> 00:56:36,350
Speaker 2: are the least, are the most disrespected, unprotected, all that,

1206
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:40,549
Speaker 2: that little, you know, Malcolm X said it, right? And

1207
00:56:40,590 --> 00:56:42,410
Speaker 2: people hang on to that till this day. I'm not,

1208
00:56:42,489 --> 00:56:45,629
Speaker 2: I don't have a victim mentality. So to me, that's

1209
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:49,370
Speaker 2: like victimhood. But I can understand where some women may

1210
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:52,150
Speaker 2: feel that way. I can understand that. But it's still

1211
00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:54,890
Speaker 2: some shit that's supposed to be discussed in our community. Like,

1212
00:56:54,989 --> 00:56:58,410
Speaker 2: I don't need a white woman saying, questioning me about

1213
00:56:58,810 --> 00:57:02,230
Speaker 2: my relationship with black men. And it was mostly white

1214
00:57:02,290 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: women responding to her. And this Asian woman, because she

1215
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,460
Speaker 2: actually did another TikTok and said, why are 70% of

1216
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,110
Speaker 2: black children in America raised by single mothers? And an

1217
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:19,050
Speaker 2: Asian woman responded to her ass and said, you need

1218
00:57:19,070 --> 00:57:23,860
Speaker 2: to be worried about all the serial killers and rapists

1219
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,660
Speaker 2: and mass murderers that are being created in a two

1220
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: family white homes as opposed to being in black people's business.

1221
00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:33,830
Speaker 7: That was a snapback and I felt that.

1222
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:39,890
Speaker 1: I mean those are good questions right I mean those

1223
00:57:39,950 --> 00:57:41,670
Speaker 1: are things that we definitely need to figure out what's

1224
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:42,410
Speaker 1: going on in our.

1225
00:57:42,330 --> 00:57:45,270
Speaker 3: Communities but why are you asking that question and what.

1226
00:57:45,170 --> 00:57:49,340
Speaker 1: You gonna do with the answer right like what are

1227
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,630
Speaker 1: you about to do Get your ass beat up in

1228
00:57:52,650 --> 00:57:53,070
Speaker 1: the street.

1229
00:57:54,270 --> 00:57:59,850
Speaker 4: Those are actually true statements sometimes. But that's not your business.

1230
00:57:59,870 --> 00:58:01,350
Speaker 4: Why do you care? And what are you going to

1231
00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:03,570
Speaker 4: do when you pick that bone up? What are you

1232
00:58:03,590 --> 00:58:04,930
Speaker 4: going to carry it to? What are you going to

1233
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:06,150
Speaker 4: do to help the situation?

1234
00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:06,750
Speaker 2: Nothing.

1235
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:09,410
Speaker 4: So are you just trying to be messy at that point?

1236
00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:13,350
Speaker 4: And you're just trying to stare the pot? Because, okay,

1237
00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:16,660
Speaker 4: that's Black problems. Let us worry about our own shit.

1238
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,750
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, what you going to do with it?

1239
00:58:19,180 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Right, right.

1240
00:58:20,570 --> 00:58:22,010
Speaker 7: It was a clickbait, exactly.

1241
00:58:22,030 --> 00:58:24,630
Speaker 8: It got people engaging and that's all they wanted was

1242
00:58:24,650 --> 00:58:25,490
Speaker 8: the engagement.

1243
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: A Black man commented to her and asked her if

1244
00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:32,380
Speaker 2: she was Black. And she responded back to him and

1245
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:36,910
Speaker 2: she said, by heart or by skin color?

1246
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:41,550
Speaker 5: So clearly she's identifying.

1247
00:58:42,170 --> 00:58:43,270
Speaker 3: Okay, Rachel Dozen.

1248
00:58:43,290 --> 00:58:46,850
Speaker 2: That's exactly where I'm going. And in another video, she says,

1249
00:58:46,930 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: what does she have to do for the black community

1250
00:58:49,620 --> 00:58:53,020
Speaker 2: to trust her? And she says, even though I'm not black,

1251
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: I identify with you. Again, we need to do a

1252
00:58:56,740 --> 00:59:00,420
Speaker 2: better job at gatekeeping. These motherfuckers feel entitled to all

1253
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: things black women. If you want to get the check

1254
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,380
Speaker 2: on social media, what they do they they make like

1255
00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,180
Speaker 2: caricatures out of black women they throw a wig on

1256
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,900
Speaker 2: do our head movements talk shit like it's they're making

1257
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,010
Speaker 2: fun but a black woman oftentimes can't become a millionaire

1258
00:59:17,090 --> 00:59:19,990
Speaker 2: or get a million follows off of naturally just being

1259
00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:24,950
Speaker 2: herself but a white woman pretending to be us will

1260
00:59:24,990 --> 00:59:27,230
Speaker 2: get support from the black community and the white.

1261
00:59:27,110 --> 00:59:30,620
Speaker 1: Community I see a lot of black women got a

1262
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: million followers being themselves.

1263
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,380
Speaker 3: You don't think? You don't feel like that.

1264
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: Let's take the little catch me outside little girl, for example.

1265
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:41,970
Speaker 2: Why should she be famous?

1266
00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:47,669
Speaker 7: Because young people follow her. I don't follow her. Young

1267
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:54,930
Speaker 7: people have a million followers. Easy. But also, she's a character.

1268
00:59:55,350 --> 00:59:56,689
Speaker 7: People want to see someone act a fool.

1269
00:59:57,620 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: And what character is that? She's the character of a

1270
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,900
Speaker 2: specific type of Black woman. She does.

1271
01:00:03,220 --> 01:00:04,420
Speaker 7: She does. She does.

1272
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:08,460
Speaker 8: But also there are Black women being themselves that have

1273
01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:10,870
Speaker 8: a million followers and that's why people do imitate those

1274
01:00:10,910 --> 01:00:13,690
Speaker 8: accounts because they know it generates content.

1275
01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:14,500
Speaker 7: You know, people want it.

1276
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:19,910
Speaker 2: Even on Etsy, there's a million fake Black-owned businesses on Etsy.

1277
01:00:20,310 --> 01:00:23,710
Speaker 2: They're not Black-owned businesses. They just have, like, Black girl

1278
01:00:23,730 --> 01:00:28,090
Speaker 2: magic of their own. it is something, I guess it's flattery,

1279
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: but people.

1280
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 7: Are imitating us.

1281
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:33,500
Speaker 4: Right.

1282
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is very interesting. And I feel like we

1283
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: can go all day long with a black hair topic.

1284
01:00:41,140 --> 01:00:43,610
Speaker 2: Cause it just goes into all so many different things.

1285
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:48,110
Speaker 2: When you start talking about black women and hair relationships,

1286
01:00:48,510 --> 01:00:51,670
Speaker 2: growing up natural, we, we got to stop somewhere.

1287
01:00:51,810 --> 01:00:54,170
Speaker 5: Right. Right.

1288
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: So I want us to do a dumb bitch story.

1289
01:00:57,500 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 2: Dumb bitch story?

1290
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 7: You are so dumb.

1291
01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:03,780
Speaker 1: Because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once

1292
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:12,100
Speaker 1: or twice. So you've listened to the show. We always

1293
01:01:12,140 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: have our guests share a dumb bitch story. It doesn't

1294
01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:16,510
Speaker 1: have to be about hair. I mean, if you could

1295
01:01:16,530 --> 01:01:19,550
Speaker 1: relate to hair, that would be great. But if you

1296
01:01:19,570 --> 01:01:22,190
Speaker 1: could think of a moment you were ever played or...

1297
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,330
Speaker 1: Somebody tried to play you.

1298
01:01:24,650 --> 01:01:26,610
Speaker 3: Or ran them up. Can you share a.

1299
01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:28,710
Speaker 5: Time?

1300
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:31,830
Speaker 7: Me? I don't know. You know mine. Do you have

1301
01:01:31,930 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 7: one for me? You can. It is what it is

1302
01:01:35,180 --> 01:01:35,620
Speaker 7: at this point.

1303
01:01:35,660 --> 01:01:39,260
Speaker 2: Damn, you been keeping tallying her dumb bitch activity for her, Tam?

1304
01:01:40,980 --> 01:01:43,010
Speaker 2: You know that one time. I have not. Now, you

1305
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:44,990
Speaker 2: know that one time you was really a dumb bitch, bitch.

1306
01:01:45,010 --> 01:01:45,510
Speaker 3: You remember?

1307
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:47,370
Speaker 7: I've been smart.

1308
01:01:49,090 --> 01:01:51,450
Speaker 3: Your whole life she was smart her whole life.

1309
01:01:51,260 --> 01:01:55,700
Speaker 1: Y'all except for that one time I can tell you

1310
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: a story about us just being dumb bitches together.

1311
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 7: Okay that's a good one go ahead.

1312
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: It was Easter alright this is like in our 20s

1313
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: it was Easter Sunday morning and we had been out

1314
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: clubbing all night 6am 6am it was people getting up

1315
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,940
Speaker 1: ready to go praise the lord and thank him for

1316
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: resurrecting and stuff and we drunk And she was like,

1317
01:02:19,180 --> 01:02:20,340
Speaker 1: stop and get gas.

1318
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,850
Speaker 3: And I forgot she said that, and I wasn't paying attention.

1319
01:02:23,890 --> 01:02:26,530
Speaker 1: I was driving her car, and we broke down on

1320
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:29,430
Speaker 1: the side of the highway with no gas.

1321
01:02:30,050 --> 01:02:31,430
Speaker 3: And some strange.

1322
01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:34,700
Speaker 1: White people pulled over and picked us up, took us

1323
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,100
Speaker 1: to the gas station, and we got a gas can.

1324
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: And I was out there smoking, a black and mild.

1325
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,300
Speaker 3: Filling up the gas can.

1326
01:02:42,340 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: Dumb bitch.

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01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,150
Speaker 3: About to blow my motherfucking self up.

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01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:51,070
Speaker 1: Listen and we got a gallon of gas and people

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01:02:51,090 --> 01:02:53,050
Speaker 1: took us back to our car and then we made

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01:02:53,090 --> 01:02:55,010
Speaker 1: it home that was so dumb.

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01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:57,290
Speaker 2: It was that was dumb but let's talk it was

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01:02:57,330 --> 01:03:00,510
Speaker 2: a strip club not just a regular club yeah we

1333
01:03:00,530 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: was and Tammy asked for 20 on pump one and

1334
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: they're like it's just one gallon for the can you

1335
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:07,460
Speaker 2: can't get 20.

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01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,500
Speaker 3: And And I was so confused. I'm like, why the

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01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:14,050
Speaker 3: fuck I can't get 20? I need 20. It's like,

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01:03:14,140 --> 01:03:18,370
Speaker 3: it's a gallon can, bitch. I'm like, so put 20

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01:03:18,370 --> 01:03:19,930
Speaker 3: in it.

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01:03:19,950 --> 01:03:22,790
Speaker 7: She's like, wake up, bitch. Your car broke down. I

1341
01:03:23,070 --> 01:03:24,610
Speaker 7: was like, did you put gas in it?

1342
01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I forgot. Yeah.

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01:03:29,860 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 7: That was a fun night.

1344
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:32,300
Speaker 2: Shame, shame, shame.

1345
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:34,020
Speaker 7: We didn't go to church.

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01:03:35,070 --> 01:03:37,470
Speaker 1: We did not make it to church I prayed on

1347
01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:38,910
Speaker 1: the side of the road before we got in the

1348
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:41,900
Speaker 1: car with those white folks we did that was Grace

1349
01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: got yeah but they were so nice they were so

1350
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:46,980
Speaker 1: nice and they were young they were teenagers or young

1351
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,900
Speaker 1: adults they were very young Yeah.

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01:03:48,940 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: They were younger than us. I feel like, like, where

1353
01:03:50,740 --> 01:03:51,780
Speaker 3: y'all coming from this late?

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,940
Speaker 7: They're probably going, they're probably going to church.

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01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:56,860
Speaker 3: No, they was not going to church. They didn't look

1356
01:03:56,890 --> 01:04:01,530
Speaker 3: like it. They didn't seem like the churchy type. But okay.

1357
01:04:01,550 --> 01:04:03,630
Speaker 3: That was our, she got some dumb bitch stories.

1358
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:07,970
Speaker 2: She just ain't going to share with y'all.

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01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:11,650
Speaker 1: So, uh, Tamika, well, before we close out, uh, do

1360
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:13,510
Speaker 1: you have a dumb bitch story to share with us?

1361
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: I just recently was a dumb bitch. You know what

1362
01:04:16,380 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying? Now I'm a divorce bitch. So I guess,

1363
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:27,470
Speaker 4: you know, that goes hand in hand. But I remember

1364
01:04:27,830 --> 01:04:32,170
Speaker 4: it was one time where, you know, basically I, and

1365
01:04:33,210 --> 01:04:34,530
Speaker 4: actually I looked a little stupid.

1366
01:04:34,650 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 5: This is an older story. Let me tell this one.

1367
01:04:36,270 --> 01:04:39,730
Speaker 4: I ain't going to go too current. So me and

1368
01:04:39,810 --> 01:04:43,070
Speaker 4: an ex, you know, we had broken up or whatever. So,

1369
01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:46,060
Speaker 4: he picked me up and we went out to eat.

1370
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,900
Speaker 4: And me being messy, his girlfriend, I was like, eh,

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01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm out with y'all nigga, you know what I'm saying?

1372
01:04:52,620 --> 01:04:54,660
Speaker 4: We out to eat and this and that. I'm sending,

1373
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm sending, like, pictures. I'm sneaking pictures and all.

1374
01:04:58,100 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 5: This, right?

1375
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,930
Speaker 4: So, she calls him, right? And basically, he was looking

1376
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:07,490
Speaker 4: at his phone. He didn't answer. So, he come to text,

1377
01:05:07,730 --> 01:05:12,910
Speaker 4: just flooding through. So, Do you know this nigga got

1378
01:05:13,030 --> 01:05:16,330
Speaker 4: up and left my ass right there at that restaurant?

1379
01:05:16,350 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: Rightfully so. Rightfully so. He didn't say nothing.

1380
01:05:23,140 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 3: He just got up and walked away.

1381
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,030
Speaker 4: That nigga politely got up and left my ass sitting

1382
01:05:29,110 --> 01:05:30,010
Speaker 4: at that restaurant.

1383
01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:32,170
Speaker 2: That's what I want my nigga to do.

1384
01:05:33,290 --> 01:05:34,050
Speaker 7: Stupid.

1385
01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 5: Do you hear me?

1386
01:05:35,180 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: I felt so dumb. But I can laugh about that

1387
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 4: shit now. Like, I can really laugh about that now.

1388
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:42,780
Speaker 4: But I was at.

1389
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 5: And we was at IHOP.

1390
01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:50,770
Speaker 2: Not the IHOP. We was at IHOP. So I'm on

1391
01:05:50,790 --> 01:05:53,070
Speaker 2: the phone with my friend like, bitch.

1392
01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:55,950
Speaker 5: Come get me. Bitch, they can melt me at IHOP.

1393
01:05:55,970 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 4: She was like, alright, I'll go my way. So literally,

1394
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,900
Speaker 4: I'm sitting at everybody's see to me everybody knew what

1395
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 4: was going on maybe that would be me being guilty

1396
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting.

1397
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:07,420
Speaker 5: There in front of our hot window right.

1398
01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: Home cause he drove but yeah that's my dumb bitch

1399
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:14,780
Speaker 4: story cause I kinda still was messing with him after

1400
01:06:14,820 --> 01:06:16,270
Speaker 4: that after this nigga left me at.

1401
01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:20,010
Speaker 3: Our house.

1402
01:06:20,750 --> 01:06:22,910
Speaker 4: But that told me to stay in my damn place

1403
01:06:22,930 --> 01:06:26,290
Speaker 4: I ain't had no business texting that girl telling her

1404
01:06:26,350 --> 01:06:28,110
Speaker 4: what was going on that's my fault.

1405
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:31,340
Speaker 3: Right You had no business with her man.

1406
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:32,340
Speaker 2: That's what it was.

1407
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,950
Speaker 5: You were my man first.

1408
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:37,810
Speaker 2: That's y'all man. Hell no.

1409
01:06:37,850 --> 01:06:40,690
Speaker 4: She didn't apologize when she was hunting on him.

1410
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:41,450
Speaker 3: No, ma'am.

1411
01:06:41,570 --> 01:06:41,890
Speaker 4: Good.

1412
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:46,510
Speaker 2: I was a dumb bitch, a stupid bitch.

1413
01:06:46,530 --> 01:06:47,230
Speaker 3: All that wrapped up.

1414
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,610
Speaker 2: No! I had to pee! Wow.

1415
01:06:56,650 --> 01:07:01,540
Speaker 5: Luckily it was out hot. I was so embarrassed. I

1416
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:02,580
Speaker 5: was so embarrassed.

1417
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be sending a bitch some shit. I'm

1418
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,710
Speaker 2: sitting there IHOP with a nigga. This ain't no Ruth Chris.

1419
01:07:10,770 --> 01:07:14,450
Speaker 2: This ain't no Morton Steakhouse. IHOP. Nasty hop.

1420
01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:17,990
Speaker 4: In my defense, it didn't matter where we was at.

1421
01:07:18,110 --> 01:07:19,850
Speaker 4: I was in there with her nigga. I just needed

1422
01:07:19,870 --> 01:07:21,910
Speaker 4: her to know that. I didn't give a fuck. We

1423
01:07:21,930 --> 01:07:24,110
Speaker 4: could have been at Taco Bell and I needed to

1424
01:07:24,130 --> 01:07:26,930
Speaker 4: let her know that I got my lip back.

1425
01:07:27,810 --> 01:07:29,710
Speaker 5: But the laugh was on me.

1426
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: What's your sign? What the hell?

1427
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: Sagittarius.

1428
01:07:35,540 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: That's why.

1429
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,660
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Both of y'all Sagittarius. Yeah. All right, y'all.

1430
01:07:43,340 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: So please, if you have anything going on that you

1431
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: want people to follow your social media, your businesses or

1432
01:07:50,620 --> 01:07:52,820
Speaker 1: anything that you want to share with everyone, please go

1433
01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: ahead and plug yourself right now.

1434
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 8: Okay, well, thank you guys for having me, AJ and Tam.

1435
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:06,220
Speaker 8: I am on Instagram at stylistahaircompany.com. S-T-Y-L-I-S-T-A-H-A-I-R-C-O.

1436
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,340
Speaker 3: All right, y'all.

1437
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,610
Speaker 1: And she do that Gina curl if y'all want that

1438
01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:12,710
Speaker 1: curly hair without the wet.

1439
01:08:12,730 --> 01:08:17,030
Speaker 3: That resilient curl. Right, without the wet. Yeah, it's nice.

1440
01:08:19,050 --> 01:08:19,850
Speaker 5: Yes.

1441
01:08:19,890 --> 01:08:22,860
Speaker 4: This has been so much fun, guys. And thanks, AJ

1442
01:08:22,979 --> 01:08:26,790
Speaker 4: and Tam, for having me. so you can follow me

1443
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:30,710
Speaker 4: on Instagram still I had to think only one Miss

1444
01:08:30,770 --> 01:08:38,070
Speaker 4: Parker on Instagram okay.

1445
01:08:36,850 --> 01:08:38,870
Speaker 2: Hey Miss Parker so you.

1446
01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 5: Can follow me on Instagram you know so It's been fun.

1447
01:08:42,740 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.

1448
01:08:44,620 --> 01:08:46,660
Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much for coming on and talking hair

1449
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,020
Speaker 1: with us.

1450
01:08:47,060 --> 01:08:48,890
Speaker 3: We got to have y'all back when it get cold.

1451
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:50,790
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about hair.

1452
01:08:51,490 --> 01:08:52,250
Speaker 7: In the winter.

1453
01:08:52,270 --> 01:08:54,510
Speaker 4: My winter hair, summer hair, all that shit is all

1454
01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:54,950
Speaker 4: the same.

1455
01:08:56,490 --> 01:08:58,110
Speaker 7: Mine is all the same all year long.

1456
01:08:58,130 --> 01:09:01,340
Speaker 2: All right, y'all. Listen. so if you enjoyed this episode

1457
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: please tune in every thursday on the iheart radio app

1458
01:09:04,220 --> 01:09:06,939
Speaker 2: or wherever the fuck you get your podcast at y'all

1459
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,339
Speaker 2: this is aj holiday 2.0 y'all follow me on instagram

1460
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,970
Speaker 2: we got twitter going that's we talk back podcast any

1461
01:09:13,979 --> 01:09:15,890
Speaker 2: dumb bitch stories ask a black friend we want to

1462
01:09:15,930 --> 01:09:18,450
Speaker 2: get back into that all right Send us an email

1463
01:09:18,510 --> 01:09:21,979
Speaker 2: at wetalkbackpod at gmail.com.

1464
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 3: Y'all, follow me on Instagram. It's official Tambam. I love y'all. Listen,

1465
01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:28,580
Speaker 3: I know we do. AJ going to scare all the

1466
01:09:28,620 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: white people away.

1467
01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 5: That's a lie.

1468
01:09:29,780 --> 01:09:32,780
Speaker 2: I be responding. Your ass be ready to call them

1469
01:09:32,820 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 2: dumb bitches. Get out of here now. I be having

1470
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,230
Speaker 2: real responses for people.

1471
01:09:37,550 --> 01:09:39,390
Speaker 3: If they a dumb bitch, they want to hear it.

1472
01:09:40,450 --> 01:09:41,950
Speaker 2: You be abusing people on the low.

1473
01:09:41,970 --> 01:09:42,830
Speaker 3: They don't even know it.

1474
01:09:44,729 --> 01:09:45,230
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

1475
01:09:45,250 --> 01:09:47,910
Speaker 3: It's all in love. Listen, so send your Ask a

1476
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:50,070
Speaker 3: Black Friend, your dumb bitch story, send that in. We

1477
01:09:50,110 --> 01:09:53,510
Speaker 3: need that. Follow me again. I said Instagram, Official Tambam.

1478
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,300
Speaker 3: And y'all remember to speak now.

1479
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,420
Speaker 2: And never hold your peace.