1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans, This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the PAC twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: the truth lives here Packed twelve Apostles. 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amzon and this is the 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Pack twelve Apostles. Thank you guys for joining us here 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: on the PAC twelve Apostles. Make sure you live a 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: five star rating wherever you listen to podcasts, tell your 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: friends about it, share the podcast, go on YouTube at 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: George Reister see all more content there. Uh, we got 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: a lot for you guys, and uh, there was so 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: much going on in college football this week, so so 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: much going on in college football week that you guys 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: can hit us with your questions at PAC twelve Apostles 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: on Twitter or x or whatever you want to call it, 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: or you can shoot us an email. I'm Att i 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Ammad at Unafraid Show dot com. Ralph. Do we have 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: new ratings or reviews? 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: New ratings, no reviews? Please please let us know what 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: you think of the podcast. We will read it on 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: the air. 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Leave a review, we'll 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: read it on here, or like George said, send us 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 3: an email. 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: All right, okay, that's positive news. 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Well I'm not sure whether it's positive news or not, 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: but it's damn sure maddening. What's going on in the 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: PAC twelve right now? George, what are you talking about 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: with something? Something's maddening. Uh, yeah, it's maddening. 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: You have. 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington doing seven million plus viewers. This is 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: the threshold for a great rated college football game that 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: they look to is four million or more. You've had 39 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of Colorado games be over four million, Oregon 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: games being over four million. And you're just like, hmm, 41 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: how much would the if they were in negotiations now, 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: or if the Pac twelve had gotten its football act 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: together prior to this year, how much would those negotiations 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: have been worth? Ralph like, it's maddening to see Kirk 45 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Herbstreet and Rhys Davis on television, saying they believe the 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: PAC twelve has that has can get two playoff teams. 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: In almost fell out of my chair. And this is 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: in the year that the conference is disbanding. I am happy, 49 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: but I'm also wanting to throw things. 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Herbie compared twenty twenty three Washington to twenty nineteen LSU. 51 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: My eyes about fell out of my head. I don't know, man, 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: you probably at least probably at least get forty million 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 3: per team and maybe throw in like three free months 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: of Spotify in there or some some some extra perks. 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: What's going on? Yeah, in this conference, I mean things 56 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: are good, man, things are really good. I mean, but 57 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: they're good and they're dying off. 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Dude, dude, It's like you ever, Yeah, it's like when 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: is the worst three? 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: When you. 62 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: Termined? 63 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Oh the I r s. 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, yes, yes, exactly, yes. 65 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Winning the lottery when you know, have you ever walked 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: out of a Have you ever walked out of like 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: a funeral or awake and been like, man, that was fun. Yeah, 68 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: you kind of forget why you were there? Correct? 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that that happened at my grandmother's funeral 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: where where everybody was super happy and excited. But actually, 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's the way it's supposed to be. 72 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: It's like a celebration of life. So we're having a 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: PAC twelve celebration of life right now. 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, this one heck of awake for sure, and 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: and just like it at a spectacular wake. Some of 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: these games are drunk. 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: This last week. 78 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 4: Yes, they are bro. 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: Shut out to Colorado, all right. 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: So the not only are the PAC twelve ratings good 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: where we haven't seen ratings like like this in PAC 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: twelve history, the attendance in the PAC twelve is going 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: crazy as well. You have attendant so far up, dude, 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: that it that Colorado's obviously up massively because I mean 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: they had nowhere to go butt up, and they had twelve. 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: They're up over. 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: Ten million, ten million people in their ten million, t 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: thousand people in their stadium. Every single week UCLA is 89 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: sold out for Colorado. Me and the fam will be 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: in attendance for that one. Oregon State is up eight 91 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: eighty one hundred. I mean, part of that's probably due 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: to them getting a new stadium renovation and it being 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: a little bit bigger. Arizona State's up six thousand, despite 94 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: despite their their football club not being able to go 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: to a bowl game and not going to a bowl 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: game even if they could. So yeah, I mean, but 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: then you have teams like you see it like you 98 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, like Utah who in Oregon and Washington who, 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: there's no way that their attendance could go up because 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: they're basically sold out every single week, and. 101 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: Those resale numbers though that secondary market, it's how you 102 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: can tell you got to stadium that's always sold out, well, 103 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: like what are the what are the the resale tickets 104 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: going for? Like how hard is it to sneak into 105 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: a game last minute? And you know, I think you 106 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: even even with stadiums that sell out, you can tell 107 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: there's an extra level of excitement. 108 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: Yep, yep. Now. 109 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: But there's also other news in the in the PAC 110 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: twelve and that is so attendance is up, Ratings are up, 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: which is super super positive for the for the schools 112 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: and especially as they had and transition over, Like even 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: if they were transitioning over now, I think that Oregon 114 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: would get a better deal, Washington would get an even 115 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: better deal, and so would Arizona and Colorado as they 116 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: head into the Big twelve like those like they would 117 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: have been sitting there like hey, hey man, don't come 118 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: with no fifty percent for us. 119 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 4: We need we need SETD, we need seventy five. 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean everybody with Stanford, right, but because 121 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: Stanford doesn't need the money, but you know it. To me, 122 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: this last year of of Pac twelve football feels very 123 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: much like a couple. You know, things haven't been going 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: well for a while. Uh, they're fighting and uh and 125 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: they decide to break up and then all of a sudden, 126 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: haven't seen each other in three months. But in that 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: three months they both went to therapy. They both got 128 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: in the best shape of their life. They show up 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: for mediation and it's like, oh, we do we make 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: a mistake because here the Pac twelve is in the 131 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: best shape that we've seen it in years. USC is relevant, 132 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest is relevant. Uh you know, we got 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: we got coaches in the state of Arizona that you 134 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: you could believe in. Moving forward, Uh, Utah has continue 135 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: to dominate the Dion phenomenon, all of the Heisman contenders. Uh, 136 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: you know, recruits coming back home, like dj U, like 137 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: this type of stuff is making the the PAC twelve 138 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: super super appealing, but the decisions aren't even made and 139 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: so and I'm yeah, it's like there is no moment 140 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: of complete joy watching any of this, because even even 141 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: Colorado Stanford right, one of the i mean bizarre games 142 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: of the year, but one of the games of the year. 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: When you have a team this down twenty nine nothing 144 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: that drops the thirty six points in the second half 145 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: to send it to double overtime and gets a win 146 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: and it's probably their first and only, like maybe last 147 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: conference win ever in the PAC twelve, you have something 148 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: like that happen, you can't even enjoy it in the 149 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: moment because you know Colorado and Stanford are never gonna 150 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: play again. Yeah, there's not gonna be a get back 151 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: game for Colorado. We would have we would have hyped 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: Colorado Stanford round two like it was like Haggler Hearns 153 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: round two, like we would have you and I on 154 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: this show. 155 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: That would have been yes, yes, yes. 156 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: Matchup that no one has ever cared about ever in 157 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Colorado Stanford, and we we can't do that. That's the worst. 158 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: Yep, yep one. It's it's frustrating because it's frustrating because 159 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: you already know that that a lot of these matchups 160 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: aren't going to be seen again, and we don't know 161 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: you know it will it will? It be five years 162 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: from now, we'll see them again ten years from now, 163 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: Like these are going to become now non conference matchups. 164 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: And as the conferences. 165 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: Expand their their schedules, I mean except for the SEC. 166 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: The SEC's adding two more teams, are like. 167 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: Nah, we're staying at eight games? 168 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: Fan where eight games? Because and with the other conferences 169 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 2: adding and then adding nine conference games and all of 170 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: that stuff. Bro, it's gonna get tricky because one of 171 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: these conferences is gonna go to ten conference games and 172 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna get real tricky for scheduling. And then people 173 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,119 Speaker 2: are gonna be laughing at the SEC saying, really, this 174 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: is this is what you're doing, This is what you's 175 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: so so you expand your conference and you think that 176 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: this griff is still gonna work with eight conference games. No, 177 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: not fam No, no, no, because I actually think that 178 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: the Big ten is super positioned two Like when you 179 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: look at Oregon, Washington, UCLA, USC, Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, 180 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: bro that Round Robin and yes, I'm not paying attention 181 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: to at like if we're talking about people watching it 182 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: on television Northwestern Rutgers, Maryland, like Indiana, Nebraska even like 183 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: it's not those aren't super appealing. But those seven teams 184 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: round robbining getting three games a year between them or more. Bro, 185 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: it's the The ratings are going to go off the 186 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: charts every single week and the people that Big Noon 187 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: Game Day and every other big time program is soon 188 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: to be us traveling around to every single game. It 189 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: is going to be madness trying to figure out which 190 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: one to go to. 191 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree, And it's in and for the 192 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: Big ten, it's about time because it's boring. Same stuff 193 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: happens every single year. It's it's you know, Michigan and 194 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: Ohio State out of the east with Penn State pretending 195 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: that it's the you know uh that that it's also relevant. 196 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: And then on the other side you have a different 197 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: team every year that's set up for the slaughter. 198 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you have air on the other side the 199 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: next year. And this is the worst year for them 200 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: to be in that city situation because there's so much 201 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: parody in college football and two of their teams will 202 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: have one loss, maybe three, and two of them won't. 203 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: They'll they'll be coin flipping and tie breaking to get 204 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: to the conference championship instead of two of them playing 205 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: in the conference championship. But I digress. Now Ralph ran 206 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: across an article, I'll let him explain it about the 207 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: PAC two, the two that are left Washington State and 208 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: Oregon State, and what they should do for the future 209 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: of themselves. 210 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so there was an opinion piece put in Oregon 211 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: Live this last week by a guy named Rick Metzker, 212 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: who used to be an Oregon State senator, used to 213 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: also work as a sports editor, and is now the 214 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: legislative director at PAC West. And here is what he 215 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: is said saying that the two schools that are left 216 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: over should do. He's saying, excuse me, He's saying that 217 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: the pack two should stay together. So Oregon State Washington State, 218 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: and what they should do is appeal to the NC 219 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: DOUBLEA for a Hawaii exception. And if people don't know 220 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: what a Hawaii exception is is, it's if you agree 221 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: to travel to Hawaii, you can get an extra home 222 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: game and play thirteen games as a revenue boost, as 223 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: an incentive to you know, fly halfway across the Pacific 224 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: Ocean to go play the Rainbow Warriors. So what he's 225 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: saying is Oregon State, Washington State stay together and almost 226 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: do like what a BYU or a Notre Dame does 227 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: and just put together the absolute most beastly schedule. You 228 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: can incentivize the other teams that if they schedule somebody 229 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: in the pac two, they get a thirteenth game, so 230 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: that you can have Oregon State having like Michigan, Florida State, 231 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: Notre Dame, Clemson, like just big boys. 232 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 233 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: And and what he's saying is that will cause the 234 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: Pack two to survive and then they can have an 235 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: agreement with their other sports with the Mountain West. Uh. 236 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: But it will keep the it will keep the schools 237 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: alive because if you're playing a schedule like that, then 238 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna get high level recruits. 239 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: So are those thing gonna be by games? 240 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: Is the question? Like for the teams that they're playing. 241 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: So if they're scheduling, if Oregon State schedules Oregon or 242 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: Michigan or you know, Florida State, like you said, are 243 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: those day by games like where. 244 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: They would they would almost have to be unless the 245 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: idea of a Pack two with a monster schedule is 246 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: something that Apple decides they one in on and they 247 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: can keep because the whole thing is about keeping Oregon 248 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: State and Washington State competitive. They're gonna take a massive 249 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: budget hit. 250 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: They is presenting themselves in a way where you could 251 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: be like home, Maybe that could happen and they won't 252 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: get their heads beat in every single week, which will 253 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: make it you know, like which which will make it fade. 254 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: But now with Washington State not holding up their end 255 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: of the job, yeah, it makes it look a little 256 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: sketchy there. 257 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: Yes, But so let's say that the PAC two can 258 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: go to Apple, who they they already had a little 259 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: bit of a relationship with uh in in trying to 260 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: save the PAC ten. Right, you don't say the Pack 261 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: two can go to Apple and they can say, we 262 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: have the PAC twelve network, we have all this equipment, 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: we can we can share in the broadcasts. Uh And 264 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: if the NCAA is willing to step in and say, like, hey, 265 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: we don't want West Coast Regional Football to be destroyed, 266 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: provide this incentive for anybody who schedules us with the 267 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: ability to play a thirteen game which will help them 268 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: in the in the know expanded college football playoff rankings 269 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: will build up this massive schedule. Would you want to 270 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: televise it? You know, at the TV, and so some 271 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: of them might be by games, and some of that 272 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: those resources might be made up by a television deal. 273 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: This is all Pie and the Sky thinking. But it's 274 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: one of the more innovative things that I've seen, because 275 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: the option right now really feels like these two teams 276 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: are going to have to drop down into Mountain West play. 277 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: I love the Mountain West, but the difference between the 278 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: Mountain West payment per team from like their CBS Sports 279 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: deal and the Pac twelve schools just in twenty twenty 280 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: two alone, that's a thirty three million dollar gap. You're 281 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: talking about the difference between thirty seven million and four million. 282 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: The Oregon State and Washington States football coaching staffs alone 283 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: make more than four million dollars. 284 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 285 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: It's gonna be bad. And you already have like Jake 286 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: dickerd out here having to answer questions about whether or 287 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: not he's interested in the Michigan State job. Oh dude, 288 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: they're gonna lose everything. 289 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, John, if I were Michigan State. And 290 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: I know that this sounds mean and harsh. I would 291 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: have called Jonathan Smith and said, hey, yo, fam, do 292 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: you want this job? Because I got a great job 293 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: for you. I don't have a good job for you. 294 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: I got a great job for you, fam. And and 295 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna like it, and you're gonna want it. And 296 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 2: instead of you making you know, four million dollars like 297 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: you're making, come over here and make eight and your 298 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: assistant pool whatever whatever it is, right right right now, 299 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: double it, double it or times two and a half. 300 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 3: People talk about David Shaw having ridiculous allegiance to his 301 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: assistance when he was at Stanford. Oregon States have the 302 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: same OC, same DC for a minute, they have one 303 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: of the best offensive line coaches in a country. 304 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 4: Yep. 305 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Like and what he has benefited anybody to bring that 306 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: whole that whole crew over. 307 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And if he's got the opportunity to not only 308 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: increase his salary because he's he's he could be the 309 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: type of person that's like, yo, I make four million dollars, 310 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna make fifty million dollars over my career. 311 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm good, you know, I mean, But. 312 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: I'm in the town where I've played. 313 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like I'm I am good, But now my assistance, 314 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: how can I like, how can he not have a 315 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: responsibility to the guy to the coach making two hundred 316 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars a year that'll get to make 317 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: six hundred thousand dollars a year, or the coordinator that's 318 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: making eight hundred thousand or six hundred thousand, where he 319 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: can make one point two one point five. How does 320 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: he not have a responsibility to that person and that 321 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: person's family who's bought into to him. Like that's the 322 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: that's the part that people don't always calculate, is that 323 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: it's not just the head coach. It's there if they've 324 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: had longtime assistance and they're not making bread like that, 325 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you? How do you? How do 326 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: you not. 327 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: Right? And that's how Michigan State ended up with Meltucker 328 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: because if you remember, mel Tucker turned Michigan State down. Yep, 329 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: they upped that assistant pool to what like seven dollars, 330 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, he has the ability to 331 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: positively affect the lives of twenty twenty five people. He 332 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: took it. 333 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his assistants were like, and mal, can we 334 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: talk for a second. 335 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as long as it's not on the phone. 336 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Oh damn, all right? Last he is 337 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: the the the lawsuit, because is the lawsuit the Oregon 338 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: State Washington State are trying to fight for sole legal custody. 339 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: This is like a custodial disagreement. They are fighting over 340 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: the legal rights of the decision making where they should 341 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: go to school, who gets to decide the medical decisions 342 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: for the kids, who gets to control of the finances. 343 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: This is literally like a divorce. 344 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: This is, you know, the custody case, and Washington is 345 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: now trying to be a party to that case so 346 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: then they can add the other defendants and then get 347 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: it dismissed. 348 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: Do you have a side? Have you picked a side here? 349 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: Do you think that Washington State and Oregon State should 350 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: be in control of how finances are distributed in the 351 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 3: PAC tolls last year and moving forward, as well as 352 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: how bills get paid, because let's stop forget the PAC 353 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: twelve seventy two million dollars to Comcast. 354 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people were like, wait, I thought it was 355 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: fifty minutes. Listen, it's the new the real numbers have 356 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: come out. We're at seventy. 357 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: Six million per team. 358 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the question is should Oregon State in Washington 359 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: State be solely in control of that? Absolutely not, because 360 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: they were all and should they be the only people 361 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: responsible for that? 362 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 4: No? 363 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: No either, because all twelve teams got them into this mess. 364 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: You'd be like, no, it wasn't. Their father was Larry 365 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: Scott in the conferences. 366 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Uh, all twelve of the presidents which only like one 367 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: or two of them are left now, that kept hiring 368 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: Larry Scott. They got them into this mess. They kept 369 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: re re upping this dude when he puts out a 370 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: company wide email update update, I just want to let 371 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: everybody know I got a new contract to lead you 372 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: all further. That was the most d bagg thig of 373 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: all time. Bro. 374 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: That was a Ron Burgundy Ron Brigny from Anchorman moment. Hey, everybody, 375 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: come see how good I look Cannonball exactly. 376 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: So, I do believe that since they're going to be responsible, Like, 377 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: if if the teams aren't going to be responsible for 378 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: that at all, then no, they shouldn't have any say so. 379 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: But if they are going to be responsible for it, 380 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: then yes, they should have some control over that, but 381 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: anything for the but like, but then there goes the 382 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: question of the basketball credits, because there's still a lot 383 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: of basketball credit money coming in and you could have 384 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: one or two teams in the College Football Playoff this year. 385 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: That's six to twelve million dollars plus other money that 386 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: comes in ancillary money from that, and the conference is 387 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 2: breaking up. So yes, there are people that should have 388 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: say so over it. If I mean, if you did 389 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: not contribute to it, then no. But but if you're 390 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: going to be responsible for it, hell yeah, Like like 391 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: you can't make me have to pay for something and 392 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: me have no say so over over the money that 393 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm putting in. 394 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 3: Did you have a problem, because I guess George Kleafkov 395 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: is on record under oath saying that USC and UCLA 396 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: agreed to be removed from any decision making when they 397 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: decided to. 398 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: Both they agreed to do that, they agreed. 399 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: And do you think any of this money should be 400 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: used for relocation costs? 401 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: And and if it's money due to them, yes, but 402 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: but but only after the debts are paid off. Like 403 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: you don't get to high to even my arguanductor, you 404 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: don't get to high tail it out of out of 405 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: town after Michael Shield co signed Larry Scott coming coming back. 406 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: You don't get to high tail it out of town 407 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: and take the money. Hey yo, I got to use 408 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: all this money to move, but I'm gonna leave you 409 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 2: with the debt. Nah. 410 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: No, I don't think that that's fair or right. 411 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: It is interesting that, like so, Washington has an opportunity 412 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: to go to college football playoff. If you make the 413 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: College Football Playoff semi finals, the conference gets a check 414 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: six million dollars. That's five hundred thousand per team. Because 415 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: I don't think the Back twelve is one of the 416 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: conferences that gives a bonus to the team that actually makes. 417 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: It, which is wild. 418 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: Arizona State is gonna take on Washington and if they 419 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: beat them, it's probably gonna cost them five hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, 420 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: that's it's it's a wild thing to consider. But you 421 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: know that that that is definitely motivation for Washington to say, 422 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: we want to be we want to be able to 423 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: have a say in how the money that we helped 424 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: bring into the conference, even if it's the end of 425 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: the conference, gets spent. The truth of the matter is, 426 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: though I think you gotta be careful how involved you 427 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: want to be, because will that increase your overall liability 428 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: to pay that. 429 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: Come exactly exactly. 430 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: Now. 431 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: Now we gotta get to the games on the field. 432 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: The good news, and it started on Friday. It was 433 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Friday night Pac twelve magic in again. I have no 434 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: desire for my team to ever play on Friday Night, never, 435 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: not under any circumstances against hell, maybe an equal opponent, 436 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: but no desire to play against somebody who is Actually 437 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 2: I don't want to play against anybody on Friday night 438 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: because we could be up fifty to nothing and I'd 439 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: be nervous. And Colorado, who is not used to having success, 440 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: was up twenty nine to nothing on a bad Stanford team. 441 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: And Colorado is the confidence crew. They exude confidence. And 442 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: they went to halftime, yeah, dancing and chadur sending out 443 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: I don't think he actually did it. Well, I hope 444 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: he didn't actually do it, sending out merch on his 445 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: Instagram at halftime. I mean, granted, that is optimal time 446 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: to do it, though, that is I will will say 447 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: marketing wise, that's optimal time to do it. But then 448 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: you can't go out in the second half and lose 449 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: a twenty nine and nothing lead. It was bad, Bro, 450 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: it was bad. And they let I am I am, 451 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: I am in. 452 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: The four elick I am are, Yeah. 453 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: Elick I am are wide receiver for the Stanford Cardinals 454 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: go for two hundred and not was it ninety four 455 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: seventy four? And how many yards had he had prior 456 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: to that game, Ralph? 457 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: Two hundred and seven? 458 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: So you let a. 459 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: Man with no credentials just. 460 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: Scorched, scorch you, I mean, there's no other way to 461 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 2: say it. They got they they got their lunch handed 462 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: to them. And the part that scares me about this, 463 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: it's not that they lost, Ralph. It's not that they lost, 464 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: it's the fashion in which they lost, because this team 465 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: committed seventeen penalties Ralph, seventeen. 466 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: That that is a. 467 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: Ungodly amount of penalties. That's coaching, and it's not like 468 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: this is the first time that they've committed that many penalties. 469 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: You cannot commit that many penalties and win, you can't. 470 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: And they should have been double team. It was bad. 471 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: Stanford committed seven penalties for seventy three yards, Colorado seventeen 472 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: for one to twenty seven, multiple personal fouls a lot 473 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: of pre procedure penalties, like you can deal with the 474 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: occasional holding stuff like that, but. 475 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 4: They killed themselves. 476 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: They allowed They gave Stanford two extra first downs in 477 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter alone off of penalties, off of personal fouls, 478 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: and there's no bueno. 479 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: I don't I don't always have a problem with with penalties. 480 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: I do think it is reflective of coaching, whether you 481 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: can instilled discipline or not. But I don't have a 482 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: problem with with a team that gets penalized the way 483 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: that Washington did against against Arizona a couple of weeks ago. 484 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: Because sometimes you're moving the ball right. Sometimes it's because 485 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: you you know, you're you're holding to free somebody up 486 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: for a forty yard run and it gets called back. 487 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a show of dominance, you know. Sometimes you're 488 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: protecting your quarterback. Sometimes you're sending like in that Colorado 489 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: State game the other day. I don't know if you 490 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: saw that where a player got hurt before halftime, So 491 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: in the third quarter, Colorado State offensive lineman came out 492 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: and just blew a dude up just to send a message. 493 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes the penalties have to do with that. But when 494 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: they're procedural when they're when they're fatigue based, lack of 495 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: discipline based. All that's going to do is it's hurt 496 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: your ability to win. This felt very much to me 497 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: like the kids that typically have a good time on 498 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 3: Friday night and the kids that typically have a test 499 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: study four on Friday night. Some people were ready to 500 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: put in work in the second half and some people 501 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: were ready to go have a good time because twenty 502 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: nine to nothing like to be able to overcome something 503 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: like that is insane. And Stanford did what Stanford does. 504 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: They they're the smart kids, right. They found something that 505 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: worked and they exploited it over and over and over 506 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: and over and over and over again. Colorado didn't do 507 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: anything to stop elek Iaman or they bracket him. Yeah, 508 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: they put Travis Hunter on him. But Travis Hunter is 509 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty snaps deep into his first game 510 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: back off last last rated liver. He took one of 511 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: those brutal hits I've ever seen in my life on 512 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: his second touchdown catch, and he still got up, kept ticking. 513 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: But he can't do this all by himself, and he 514 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 3: got head topped in the absolute worst possible way, which 515 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: is gonna happen. So for anybody who's gonna write him 516 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: off as a as a defensive back, like no, failure 517 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: is part of being in the mix. But there should 518 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: have been some help there after the tenth catch for 519 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: the two hundred and fiftieth yard or after the slam 520 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: where he ran at night. 521 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: Pretty much all he ran was slanting goes like that 522 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: was it. He wasn't running the whole route tree. He 523 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't run in like comeback whip route like he wouldn't 524 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: run in every route and route tree. 525 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. This is adversity time. This happened 526 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: in Boulder. It's bad. Everything good that's happening for Colorado 527 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: right now. I feel like we've given their coaching staff credit. 528 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 3: But you know when you have Dion out here being like, well, 529 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: they just need to match my desire to win, Like 530 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: that's not all, that's not all. 531 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: You're you're the more deficient. Yeah, you can't beat yourself, 532 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: like you're not good enough to beat yourself, Like that's 533 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: you're not good enough to spot the other team seventeen penalties. 534 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: You are not good enough to do that. Georgia is 535 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: good enough to do that against you. 536 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: But but you know it don't work the other way around. 537 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: So I believe. 538 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: That this Stanford team is teetering right now because we 539 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: talked about the most important thing for them this year 540 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: was to keep hope alive, and this is one of 541 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: those potential hope killers because they would have been five 542 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: and two Ralph. 543 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: Five you're talking about Colorado. 544 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, they would have been five and two, one 545 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: sneaky win away from being bowl eligible, like going to 546 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: a bowl game. That would have been a massive win. 547 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: But you mean to tell me that they have a 548 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: bye week this week, they're gonna come back and beat 549 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: UCLA and then beat Oregon State, beat Arizona, Washington State 550 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: in Utah. They got a shot against Washington State, and 551 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: I guess technically a shot against Arizona. But like the 552 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: gate just got real narrow to getting a bowl game 553 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: because they're not beating Oregon State or Utah. 554 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: It ain't happening, right And I and I had said 555 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: I believe that this team to be the most that 556 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: was gonna be the most talented and well coached too 557 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: and ten team in the country. I was obviously very 558 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: very very wrong. But they're their deficiencies are their deficiencies 559 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: can't play in man, can't stop the run, can't run 560 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: the ball, can't protect the quarterback, and and that that 561 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: is not a recipe for winning. That's not a recipe 562 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: for winning. So you have to do all the little 563 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: stuff right to make up for that. They're not doing 564 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: that right now. Now, would you agree? Would you agree 565 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: with this statement? The good guys won last Friday and 566 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: the bad guys lost. 567 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: The bad guys I mean, I mean, I guess if 568 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: you if every team that you play against is bad guys, 569 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: that it feels very dog whistley to me. 570 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna read your tweet from Fisher Anderson, 571 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: former five star tackle who is who is on the 572 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: Stanford roster at of Franklin, Tennessee. This is his tweet 573 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: and it is pretty incredible. He said a few thoughts 574 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 3: on last night. Good always wins out, no matter how 575 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: bleak it looks. When coach Taylor got hired, he told 576 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: everyone to stay and believe. Coach Prime told everyone to leave. 577 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: We are programmed builders. They are mercenaries. I believe in 578 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: Stanford football. You should too. What do you think of 579 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: that tweet? Also? What is it about playing Colorado that 580 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: brings the absolute WWE out of everybody. 581 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Dude, it is absolutely gross. Bro, it is gross. What 582 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: it's gross what people have to say, like like stuff 583 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: like that. It's almost like like he doesn't understand the 584 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: temperature in the room of his own team and his 585 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: own situation. He doesn't because if he did, he would 586 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: be saying something completely different about like he doesn't know 587 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: how far away Stanford is because they think that because 588 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: they got this win, they're moving in the right direction. 589 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: And yes, they may be coaching in philosophy wise, but 590 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: you need players. Stanford has to change their philosophy as 591 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: a university. They don't let they can't keep fifth year seniors. 592 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: That's why they all transfer out because they graduate, and 593 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: then they won't let him in grad school. They can't 594 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 2: get players in through the transfer portal. I think they've 595 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: gotten like two total ever, and. 596 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: It's Taylor's saying you to stay because he can't replace you. Yes, 597 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: he does not have the ability to replace you. 598 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: And that's the hard part is that is that I 599 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: want to I want people to understand that that's a 600 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: real thing, that that that Stanford has a major problem 601 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: going forward. 602 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: And that's okay. 603 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: You know what really hurts Stanford was Besides every single 604 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: new rule change UH in in college sports over the 605 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: last few years, the early signing day. 606 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 4: Yes, because that's hard on. 607 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: Because that they they're not even finished with Like people 608 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: who are considering Stanford aren't even finished with going through 609 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: the admissions requirements until after the early signing day comes 610 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: and goes, and there's so much pressure. We thought early 611 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: signing Day was going to help, and instead all it 612 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 3: did was have coaches of the country pressure kids into 613 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: getting this done as early as possible, whether they had 614 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: their mind made up or not. You had kids signing 615 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: letters of intent because they were told there won't be 616 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: a spot for you if you wait until the typically 617 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 3: regular signing day in February. But if Stanford's not even 618 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 3: ready to accept a kid, and it comes down to like, hey, 619 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 3: you've got a spot at USC, or you've maybe got 620 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: a spot at Stanford, they're gonna take the spot at USC. 621 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: You are one hundred percent right about that, buddy, right 622 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: about that, because at what point in time, at what 623 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: other point in time are and Stanford, Like if you're 624 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: gonna go to Stanford and you're trying to and they 625 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: want you to sign early they're gonna get you to 626 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: go through the whole admissions process and it'll be done 627 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: in like around December. And that's still a long time 628 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: for for kids to wait. That's still a long time 629 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: for kids to wait and be like, I don't know 630 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna take this one, buddy, I don't know 631 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: if I should take take this one. Hey man, it's 632 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: it's absolutely tough too. It's tough. Now on to the 633 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: next game, because that one was an absolute shocker. You 634 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: had the California Golden Bears fourteen, utaw you thirty four. 635 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: Utah dominated this football game. Cal still has a problem. 636 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: They thought they had a quarterback and now and now 637 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: he's hurt and it was not a good look. And Utah, dude, 638 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: how is a vaky out out here like their leading rusher? 639 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh. When I heard that Utah was gonna be 640 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: playing a safety at running back, my assumption was that 641 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: it was that he would also not be playing. 642 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 4: Yes, no, he wouldn't. Travis Hunter, he did. 643 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: And I'm trying to remember, did Micah Bernard last year 644 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: when they had to use him at defensive back or 645 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 3: maybe that was two years ago. He wasn't out still 646 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: getting handoffs. Was he or was he playing on both sides? Yes? 647 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: I mean yes, he did play on bothall in the 648 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: bowl game. 649 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: I believe you can't. That's not sustainable recipe for success 650 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: long term. But it is cool that between Vaki and 651 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 3: ja Quinn and Jackson who used to be a quarterback, 652 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: they got two hundred and sixty rushing yards and three 653 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: touchdowns against Cal. Cal should be embarrassed by that. Cal 654 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: should be a lot of things, but it seems like 655 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 3: they're really just going through the motions they Mendoza played 656 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: well ish, he also he had a bad well they 657 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: didn't protect him. He got blown up and fumbled and 658 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: then he had a bad interception. Finley came in, wasn't 659 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 3: able to do anything and made it pretty obvious that 660 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: Mendoza should be the quarterback moving forward if he's healthy 661 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: enough to go. But they are uninspired. They don't use 662 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 3: the town talent in the way that they possibly could. 663 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 3: When this game was twenty four to seven, it might 664 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 3: as well have been one hundred thousand to seven. 665 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: Really, you said one hundred thousand broad. 666 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Colorado up twenty nine on Stanford versus 667 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: Utah up twenty four to seven. On col You know, 668 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I believed that Stanford could come back, 669 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: but all of Colorado's warts are still their warts. Yeah, 670 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: Utah getting up three scores on you with that defense, 671 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: good night. 672 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: Yep. 673 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. It would take a lot of turnovers on Utah's 674 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: behalf for that not to work. 675 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: And Bryson Barnes say what you want about him. I'm 676 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 3: not the most talented guy in the world. He's not 677 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 3: turning the ball over. Doesn't turn the ball over at all. 678 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: Ye Utah does not turn the ball over. And you 679 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: it is so to this point impossible to run on them. 680 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: They will not let you run. Yep, there's something else, man, 681 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 3: just defensively. Offensively, they lost another tight end out for 682 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 3: the season. Who knows if Cam Rising's ever going to 683 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 3: play for them again. I don't think he should personally 684 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 3: apply for. 685 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 2: A medical red shirt and then get back to it 686 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: next year, or you gotta just chance it and be like, listen, 687 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: I know I'm not going to be a high draft pick, 688 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna work work my way that way. 689 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 4: I mean, but not not being a high draftic sucks, bro. 690 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: It makes it like the gate becomes very narrow to 691 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: you having a long NFL career. 692 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 3: So you think he should go the route of super 693 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 3: duper senior. I hope they bring in a freshman and 694 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: can replace him maybe in year two. 695 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they are bringing in. 696 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's brother, Isaac Wilson as a freshman next year. Well, 697 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: he's in the class of twenty twenty. 698 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: Four, and he's kind of what he's on. He's on 699 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: the shorter end, but he's been awesome in high school, right. 700 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he hasn't played against the greatest kind 701 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: of competition in the whole world, but he's been lights 702 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: out and he played good against Gorman. So I mean, well, 703 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: they got to do something at quarterback if they want to, 704 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 2: otherwise they're going to look like every big twelve team that. 705 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna look like Baylor right now. 706 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yep. 707 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: All right, next game up, uh, the Arizona Wildcats at 708 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: Washington State. They started Noah Fafieda because remember Jedfish said, 709 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: if Jaden Delora is not one hundred percent healthy, he 710 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: made sure he's at one hundred percent. We're starting Noah 711 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 2: no Fafieda. Noah Flafiita went out there and fafeeded is show, 712 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: showed his fafea. Yeah, he went out there and showed 713 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: his fafiita and to the tune of thirty four for 714 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 2: forty three for three forty two. And you know what 715 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 2: the most important thing he didn't do, Ralph, he didn't 716 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 2: turn the ball over. Didn't turn the ball over. He 717 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: didn't throw a touchdown, but he didn't turn the ball over. 718 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 2: They ran in five touchdowns. And why shouldn't say looks bad? Actually, 719 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: let's let's focus on Arizona first, because at this point 720 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: in time, they can't go back to Jayden Delora. Right, 721 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh well. 722 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe maybe not. 723 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 4: No, they can't. 724 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 3: Ralph, shouldn't. Should and can't are two different things. Should 725 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: it and camp are two different things. 726 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: Dude're gonna go crazy if he goes back. 727 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: Some of their fans are already crazy. They'll just anyway. 728 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: I've had I've had a couple of wild experiences with 729 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 3: some some U OFA fans online in the last couple 730 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 3: of weeks. But I let me ask you this first, 731 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: as somebody who played college football at a very high level, 732 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: how many players are one hundred percent at any given 733 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 3: time during the season? Anybody is anybody one hundred percent? 734 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's rare, bro, that's rare. 735 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: I just was making sure because I was like, one 736 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: hundred percent is uh? You know, three weeks off at 737 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: a spa, yes, getting massages every day, drinking green tea, 738 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 3: So you know the idea of him being one hundred percent, 739 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 3: you know, it's pretty funny. Arizona looks good. They look 740 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: good defensively. Johnny Nansen was feeling himself because he's a 741 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: former Washington State defensive player and he was tearing up 742 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: that defense he used to play, or he was tearing 743 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 3: up the offense he's play against in practice. He looked 744 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 3: like he was having a really really good time. So 745 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 3: shout out to Johnny Nansen, because I know a lot 746 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: of people thought that hire was questionable and they brought 747 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: him over from UCLA. Washington State was up six to 748 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 3: nothing in this game and then Unison. 749 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 4: Oh the hole fell in. They fell into a sinkhole. 750 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, forty four points should have been more. Should have 751 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 3: been more. University of Arizona had three different times where 752 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 3: they didn't finish drives and they had to settle for 753 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: field goals, So this game could have been a lot 754 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 3: worse than it really was. Fefida looked very good. Washington 755 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 3: looked small and slow. Defensively, Arizona spread them out and 756 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 3: then they'd hand the ball off right up the middle, 757 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: and I mean it was like ten twelve yards every time. 758 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 2: Yep, it was. 759 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: It was silly. And you know, Ted Roya McMillan is 760 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 3: so good at finding a spot and then parking there. 761 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 3: And then Fefida, his high school teammate, will throw it 762 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: eight nine feet in the air, so he'll just jump 763 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: up and go get it, and he's not afraid to 764 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: take a hit with his feet off. Then that's really 765 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: hard to stop. Jacob Cowing is a freak of a 766 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 3: route runner, and so you know he'll find seams and 767 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: they'll get him the ball. What Arizona looked really really good. 768 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: What's crazy to me? This Arizona team, outside of Noah Fida, 769 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 3: not very different than the team that played last year 770 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 3: in Tucson and lost thirty one to twenty to a 771 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 3: Washington State team that is also not very different. Yep, 772 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: neither team is very different from what I mean Washington 773 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: State's running back. I mean, they don't really have a 774 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 3: running game. 775 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 4: At all, but go. 776 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 2: Go ahead and challenge them now, Ralph, because the last time, 777 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: did you last year, Yes, they came out ran the ball, 778 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 2: but I don't know if that can happen this week. 779 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if their opponent this week is allowing 780 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: allowing running. 781 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 3: Dropping seven into cut. Who would have thought that if 782 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 3: you just drop, everybody in the coverage came or won't 783 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 3: know where to go with the football. I don't know. 784 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: Masterful Points talked about this last year and we thought 785 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 2: that he had overcome that. But he's having trouble decision making, 786 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 2: and some of that has to be coaching. Some of 787 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: it's on on on him, like if you make it 788 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: even the least bit unclear for him and it's not 789 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 2: like a point and click situation, he just freezes. 790 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 3: I don't hate Arizona's plan to just keep anything from 791 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 3: going over their heads. I don't hate it because it 792 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 3: while it didn't work against Washington, it did. I mean, 793 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 3: they demolished Washington State. There's some teams where it's not 794 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 3: gonna matter because they're not going to go over your 795 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 3: head anyway. So like in the ASU game, they probably 796 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 3: should be a little more aggressive, but I don't I 797 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 3: don't hate it making making them try to a team 798 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 3: that can't run the ball have to be you by 799 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 3: running the ball was brilliant. Man. They look good. They 800 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: look really really good right now. They're disciplined defensively, even 801 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 3: if they're not all that talented, they can rush the 802 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 3: passer better than they have in the last two years. 803 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 3: And if Noah Fafita is not turning the ball over 804 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 3: and they Tanner McLaughlin at tight end, that that's that's 805 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 3: an NFL ready flayer. Yes, And and at receiver they are. 806 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 3: I mean they're not Washington, but they're up there. They're 807 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 3: up there. They got a five star to come to 808 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: Tucson and he's playing like a five star. Yep. 809 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, well, the question is how many more five stars 810 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 2: can they get to go to Tucson? 811 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 3: Though, uh, I mean none? Is that harsh? First of all, 812 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 3: five stars don't play in the Big Twelve. 813 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 2: Wait, you said five stars don't play in the Big twelve. 814 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: They don't, well, yeah, they play. Well, if you don't 815 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 3: consider Texas and Oklahoma to be part of the Big Twelve, 816 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 3: then they don't consider them, so they're leaving. 817 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. 818 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: Fighter stars don't typically play Arizona and they don't typically 819 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: play in the Big twelve. I think it's gonna be difficult. 820 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 3: I think they should just enjoy what they have. They 821 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 3: lost Elijah Rushing, maybe they'll get him back, maybe they won't. 822 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: Jetfish like kind of alluded to it because you can't 823 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: say somebody's name, you can't talk about recruiting if you're 824 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 3: a head coach. But in a press conference he was like, 825 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 3: anybody that we're recruiting, we're going to continue to recruit 826 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: regardless of anything they've said or you know, so he 827 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 3: kind of made a little reference to that situation. But 828 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 3: I think they should enjoy what they have while they 829 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 3: have it, because this is a This is a unicorn situation. 830 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 2: With t mac oh for sure. Just so you know, 831 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: as we're doing this, it just came across the wire. 832 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 2: Michigan is being investigated by the nc double A for 833 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: sign stealing and it's the Big Ten that is is 834 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: doing it because they sent out a notification to the 835 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: sports books that Michigan had been sending people to their 836 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: future opponents and their college potential College Football Playoff opponents 837 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: games to go steal their signs. 838 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: Man, Okay, so you know where I went to school, 839 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,280 Speaker 3: you know where I went to school. 840 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know what happened. 841 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so ASU did some sign stealing, but they did 842 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 3: it from the box during the game. That happens. 843 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 2: That's I mean, it's fine from the box during the 844 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: game because that's not sign stealing. It's you're in the game. 845 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 2: That's no longer sign stealing, but advanced sign stealing. 846 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's. 847 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 3: Sending people out head is I don't like it. I 848 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 3: don't like I don't know. And you know, this is sports. 849 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 3: I don't think we're talking about like morality. This isn't 850 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: like Gaza strip Stone No, right, like this is sports. 851 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 3: But I don't I personally don't like the idea of 852 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 3: sending people to games to just like videotape. The I mean, 853 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 3: this is all the stuff that that Belichick got in 854 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 3: trouble for, right, like this. 855 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 4: Is yeah, but he's the greatest coach of all time. 856 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 3: Of our maybe of our time, and our time might 857 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 3: be ending. No, So yeah, I don't know. 858 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: Oh and another thing that came across, uh Jed Fish 859 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 2: says he's still unsure who will start this week. 860 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 3: That's gotta be. Games have been shipped, right. 861 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 2: It better be. It better be because this watched this 862 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcast team. I should have put them in my 863 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 2: top twenty five this week, like I was super super close. 864 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 2: But if they win this week, they're absolutely going in 865 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 2: all right. Next game up the UCLA Bruins versus the 866 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: Oregon State Beavers. I had a lot to say about 867 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 2: this game. I'll let you go first because I don't 868 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 2: want to have to make the points twice and you 869 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 2: may make some of them for me. 870 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 3: U c l A is the better team. And they 871 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 3: blew it. That's all I have to say. They they 872 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 3: they they looked better and they blew it. They Why 873 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 3: were they even trying to pass the ball? Oregon State 874 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 3: could not stop them. They couldn't yep and and and 875 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 3: UCLA kept trying to do Oregon State favors by dropping 876 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 3: Dante Moore back. He threw multiple interceptions. We got sacked 877 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 3: five times. Now. Two of those were at the end 878 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 3: of the game when they were down twelve. 879 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 2: Fifteen for thirty four with three picks and including what 880 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 2: was that his third or fourth game in a row 881 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 2: throwing a pick six. 882 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's bad, yes, yes, bad man. 883 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he threw the in the Utah game, he 884 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 2: threw a pick six and then from there he's thrown 885 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 2: a pick six every single game, So that puts them Yeah, 886 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 2: I believe that's three games in a row that they've 887 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: lost that they have thrown pick sixes. 888 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's got to be better than getting baited by 889 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 3: Jonathan Smith. He's just got to be better than that 890 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 3: thirty four pass attempts. Like they put Colin Slee in 891 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 3: and I think he got banged up, but he was 892 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: doing whatever he wanted. Every running back was having success. 893 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 4: Yes, they ran. 894 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: Hibout fifty times, fifty times for two hundred and eighty 895 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 2: four yards. Do you do you know what U c 896 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,919 Speaker 2: l A should have should have done the exact same 897 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 2: thing that Oregon State did versus Oregon last year when 898 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,720 Speaker 2: they were like, oh, we're down big, Oh but they can't. 899 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: Let's let's see if they can stop us from running 900 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: it every freaking down. Every down, We're gonna every single down, 901 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna run it. And that's what U c l 902 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 2: A should have should have done. They should have turned 903 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 2: into air force. 904 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: This was one of three games where I thank you 905 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: for bringing up air force. Uh. That hurts. As a 906 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 3: Wyoming fan, but they There are three games in the 907 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 3: Pac twelve this weekend where I feel like the better 908 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 3: team but only one where I felt like the better 909 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 3: team helped themselves like they just because yeah, Dion could 910 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 3: have made an adjustment, Yeah, Landing could have been less aggressive, 911 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 3: but like you, Chip got baited. He got baited in 912 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 3: research to try and throw the ball when running was 913 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 3: working every single time, and it just backfired on them 914 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 3: so bad. And that's not to say that Oregon State's 915 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 3: not good, but it is the same Oregon State team 916 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 3: that lost to Washington State. They're not They're not as 917 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 3: good defensively as they have been in previous years, and 918 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: offensively they're kind of slow, plotting, boring, almost, yes, but 919 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 3: you don't want to give them extra opportunities because their 920 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 3: coach is brilliant. 921 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you what do you think about Aiden 922 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 2: Child's coming coming in because they. 923 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of it is red zone stuff. 924 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because this wasn't just like the game was so 925 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: far are out of hand. 926 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 3: I thought a lot about that because can you it's 927 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 3: a lot of the same personnel for these red zone packages, 928 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 3: not completely, but a lot of the offensive line and 929 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 3: stuff like that. If you have somebody that just specializes 930 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 3: in red zone stuff and it's working. You know, how 931 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 3: much does it take away from your primary quarterback to 932 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 3: be running that red zone stuff and getting them reps 933 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 3: in practice? 934 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they want to get aiden child's experience, because 935 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: they're like and because ordinarily you don't bring your quarterback 936 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: out in these situation. No, they want him on the 937 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: field filling the moments that way next year when he's 938 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: their starting quarterback, dude. So, like DJ has another year left, 939 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be the starting quarterback 940 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 2: there next year. 941 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't think he wants to have another year left, right, 942 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 3: Well true, yeah, if if at all possible, he would 943 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 3: go test NFL. So I don't know if I have 944 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 3: the right name here, but I think it was fifty three. 945 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 3: I think it was Darius Muasau. This game to me 946 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 3: turned when when DJ threw a ball to Darius Muasau. 947 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: And he dropped through it to him. Yes, and he. 948 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 3: Boun hands and went into Silas Bouldens. 949 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 2: Yep, oh yes, yes, he caught. Yes, it went straight 950 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 2: through his hands. And you were like, oh my god, 951 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: because I was standing here and and Denisia and Button 952 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 2: had gotten into it because he thought she was cheering 953 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: for Michael Pennix because she was like, I like him, 954 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 2: he's cool, and so that caused a riff and he 955 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 2: was like, let's go Oregon State. 956 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 3: He started rooting against that's funny. 957 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he was like great past DJ. 958 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 3: It was not. Oh. That was when I was like, oh, oh, 959 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 3: this is not gonna go well for you so late today. 960 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,479 Speaker 2: No, yes, that was when you knew that it wasn't 961 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 2: their thing. Okay, so question what should they do with 962 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: Dante more right now? 963 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 3: Nothing but work through it, make better decisions as a 964 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: coaching staff. If he's going to be your dude, he's 965 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 3: your five star quarterback, you want to have him around. 966 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 3: Chip Kelly was patient enough to go through the growing 967 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 3: pains with with Dorian Thompson Robinson. 968 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 2: He didn't really have any body else though. 969 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:44,439 Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, But I think that's the move. 970 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 2: I think you're running a risk because you do have 971 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: a good football team right now. 972 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 3: But he's trying to protect Garber's red shirt so that 973 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 3: he can transfer with dignity, right, Like, that's what's going 974 00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 3: on here. 975 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 2: True, and I do appreciate Chip for that, but He's 976 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: thrown six interceptions in the last three games. Uh, the 977 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 2: pick six against Utah, two against Washington State, even though 978 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 2: that they were able to win that game because cam 979 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 2: Ward was some kind of way worse. Then you had 980 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: this Oregon State game. So I they. 981 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 3: Have an easy second half of their schedule, correct that 982 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 3: they're probably gonna get three or four wins. Stick with him. 983 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 3: That's that, And and the the Colin Schlee package doesn't 984 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 3: seem to be upsetting anybody. No, And he's taken the 985 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 3: damage that Dante Moore would have if he was out 986 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 3: here running around. So I say, keep doing what you're doing, 987 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 3: just be smarter as a coaching staff. 988 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, now now you have to go into protect him mode. 989 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 3: I got, which is you should be in with a freshman. 990 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: How many freshmen not even Kate Clubnick, Not even Kate Clubnick. 991 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 3: Is you're is able to just go out there as 992 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 3: a freshman and just be People bring up Johnny Manziel 993 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 3: like he wasn't a red shirt. 994 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Very true. 995 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 3: It's an adjustment man. Who is the last freshman to 996 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 3: come in here and just be the guy as a 997 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: as an eighteen year old, a nineteen year old, even 998 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 3: Jade rashot is twenty and he's you know, like he 999 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 3: looks really good. Oh, it's still an adjustment. 1000 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 2: Who's who's Oh my god, the kid from Arizona who 1001 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 2: went to USC, who's on like his fifth school right. 1002 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Now, Keenan Slovs. Yep, yeah, yeah, he he he And 1003 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 3: that was an air that was an air raid and 1004 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 3: he was Kurt Warner was his high school coach, and 1005 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 3: he you know, he was ready for that. But it's still, 1006 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, no, brock Party was good as fresh he's 1007 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 3: better as a sophomore. It's I don't know. I think 1008 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 3: you do have to protect him from himself. And they 1009 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: should have done that against Oregon State because they really 1010 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 3: should have won that game in my opinion. I know 1011 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 3: you it's a twelve point loss, and I don't want 1012 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 3: be fans to be like, you're not giving us any credit, Like, 1013 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 3: first of all, you won, don't worry about it, and 1014 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 3: second of all, like they you have to admit that, 1015 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Like if you were a UCLA fan, you would have 1016 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 3: been pulling a what's his name, who's the coach of 1017 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 3: South Carolina? Beamer? Yes, do you see what Biemer did 1018 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 3: this last weekend? You broke and break. Yeah, if you 1019 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 3: anybody who's a UCLA fan would have been pulling a Beamer, 1020 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 3: this including Oregon State fans, Like they have to admit 1021 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 3: that this was a very Oh yeah fans have to 1022 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 3: if you said, how would you beat you? 1023 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 2: This is exactly what I would do. This is exactly 1024 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: what I would do. All right, Yeah, on to the 1025 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 2: next game. The best games, Yeah for last, because these 1026 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 2: were the best games, unless you consider the Colorado Stanford 1027 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 2: game a good game when it really wasn't. It was 1028 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: drama field. But yeah, Notre Dame hosting USC forty eight 1029 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 2: to twenty, round forty eight to twenty, and dude, you 1030 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 2: go on to USC message boards, it is not pretty 1031 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 2: right now, it is not pretty. They couldn't even blame 1032 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 2: Alex Grinch for this, despite giving up forty eight points. 1033 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 2: They were like, the defense wasn't even bad. I mean, 1034 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 2: it just hurts when you give them the other team 1035 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 2: to ball on like the ten yard line. They had 1036 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 2: five turnovers, bro, and the defense scored twenty eight points. Well, 1037 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 2: Notre Dame scored twenty eight points on those turnovers. USC 1038 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 2: is not getting turnovers like they were the previous year, 1039 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 2: and I mean, it's it. It never fails that when 1040 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 2: you are a team that when you get an outlier 1041 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 2: number of turnovers like they got last year when a 1042 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 2: defense really wasn't that good, but they found a way 1043 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 2: to turn it over the next year, it never works 1044 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 2: like that. It is always goes back in the other direction. 1045 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. So one one thing I try not to do 1046 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 3: is say a bunch of stuff, and I try not 1047 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 3: to do the fan thing of all of the sudden 1048 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm frustrated about fifty things when one game was lost, 1049 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 3: and and it's like, Okay, well you've been you could 1050 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 3: have been complaining about all this stuff the whole time. 1051 01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 3: But I will say Caleb Williams hasn't really had much 1052 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 3: of a challenge this year. I don't know if he 1053 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 3: thought this was going to be easy. I don't know 1054 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 3: if Notre Dames games against Duke in Ohio State and 1055 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Louisville tricked USC into what it was that they were 1056 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 3: going to be facing. But no quarterback has had a 1057 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 3: good time. Riley Leonard didn't, Jack Plumber didn't, Kyle mccorr didn't. 1058 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 3: No quarterback has had a good time against this USC defense. 1059 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 3: None of them teams have beaten Notre Dame running the ball. 1060 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 3: I think we talked about, Yes, whichever running back had 1061 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 3: had the most carries, it is probably gonna be indicative 1062 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 3: of the of the score. How many carries did Marshaun 1063 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 3: Lloyd have? 1064 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: George eight god at five point eight yards of carry. 1065 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 2: He did have a thirty one year yard carry. But yeah, 1066 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't understand, Like, what what are you doing? Fam? 1067 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 1068 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? And it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't like 1069 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Esma had a great game he had ninety five yards. 1070 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't like Hartman had a good game. He only 1071 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 3: threw the ball twenty times, because you don't need to 1072 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 3: be going out there throwing the ball thirty seven like 1073 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 3: USC did. It was like Notre Dame understood the weather 1074 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 3: and they understood the assignment and USC did not. Now, 1075 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 3: does this have giant implications on what's going on at 1076 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 3: USC future? YadA, YadA, YadA. I don't think they were 1077 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 3: out here trying to compete for a national title this 1078 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 3: year anyway. College football playoff spot was a long shot, 1079 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 3: but it could have been on them. 1080 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 2: But everybody thought it was though, because they came in 1081 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 2: the highest rank Pack twelve team and we knew better. 1082 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they're not physical, they're not balanced on offense 1083 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 3: and defensively, they don't tackle well, and they don't make plays, 1084 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 3: they don't create turnovers, so that that's a lot of works. Well. 1085 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 3: I think we talked about them in a very calm 1086 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 3: and measured manner on this show. I'll tell you though, 1087 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 3: if I was a UC fan and I was somebody 1088 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 3: who was emotional, I would be mad at Cava Williams 1089 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 3: right now. 1090 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 2: Why because he's it because he did force passes. But 1091 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 2: you know you're you're you're bound to have a bad 1092 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 2: game at one point in time, right. 1093 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, But what fans do is they make excuses 1094 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 3: for things that they would not excuse or that they 1095 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 3: would attack if it was something that their rival was doing. 1096 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So. 1097 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 3: If every single time Dorian Thompson Robinson took the field 1098 01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 3: his nails were painted f usc USC fans will be like, 1099 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 3: this is this is the stupidest thing we've ever seen. Correct, 1100 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 3: When Caleb Williams does it, it's like his mom's a 1101 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 3: nail tech. Didn't you know that? Right? I personally, I 1102 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 3: don't care. I don't care. I think I think it's 1103 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I think it's using it to insult your opponent is childish. 1104 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 3: It's the one thing about Caleb Williams that gives me 1105 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 3: any pause whatsoever that he's not going to be like 1106 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 3: the greatest NFL quarterback of all time. 1107 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 2: Yep. Like I want a one hundred percent agree with 1108 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 2: you that there are some things now. And I was 1109 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 2: just talking to somebody who works at Nike about this 1110 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 2: earlier who who's working with Caleb, and he was like, Yo, 1111 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 2: nobody has bad things to say about Caleb, like people 1112 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 2: around him, people like even even in private, they're like, 1113 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 2: he's a good kid. 1114 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. 1115 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, it's so weird because on one hand, 1116 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 2: I see and I'm like, this should work. But then 1117 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 2: there are some things that happened where I'm like, this 1118 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 2: is a red flag. But then after I see the 1119 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 2: red flag, I'm like, yeah, but it's not a But 1120 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 2: it's not a red flag because the people are saying 1121 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,479 Speaker 2: something completely different. 1122 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Yes, So I'll be honest as an outside observer of 1123 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 3: the chilling on the sideline when they when they when 1124 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 3: they do the sideline shots of you know, there'll be 1125 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,719 Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks standing up watch in the game, 1126 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 3: buried in their tablet on the phone with the OC. 1127 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 3: Sideline's busy, right yep, Caleb Williams. A lot of these 1128 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 3: sideline shots are him on the bench, both arms stretched out, 1129 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 3: hanging over, chilling, just waiting for his opportunity to go 1130 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 3: out there and tear the defense up again. Right. That 1131 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 3: level of cool, calm confidence fine when everything's going right, 1132 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 3: but the moment that it's not, people are like, yeah, 1133 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 3: this has been bother me the whole time. And so 1134 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 3: what I'm saying is if I was a USC fan, 1135 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 3: these are all the things that I'd be internally struggling with. Ultimately, 1136 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 3: I if as as a like as an Arizona Cardinals fan, 1137 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 3: I will tell you this. Every single time the Cardinals win, 1138 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn it because I I that's how I 1139 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,520 Speaker 3: feel about I want my NFL team to be miserable 1140 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 3: this year. That's how much I love Kayleb Williams. Like, 1141 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 3: because I know that either we'll get him or we'll 1142 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 3: able to get a huge trade hall for somebody that 1143 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 3: does get him. 1144 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 4: Well, you guys are not about the Florio thing. 1145 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 3: That came out about Yeah, I figured, but what do 1146 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 3: you think about this Florio thing that came out about 1147 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 3: him wanting equity in the. 1148 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 2: Team that drafts him. I am going to hope that 1149 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 2: that's not true, because if that is true, that is 1150 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: not there is a zero percent chance that I would 1151 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 2: draft him. Zero Because if that is true, which I 1152 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 2: hope it's not, and I doubt that it is, then 1153 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 2: he's going to be a nightmare to deal with. Try 1154 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 2: having contract negotiations with that dude. Try having. 1155 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 4: A real, like. 1156 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 2: A situation where something is going the way he doesn't 1157 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 2: like it. I imagine how that goes, because everything has 1158 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: been kind of set up for him ever since he 1159 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 2: got in college. 1160 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 4: He didn't start, and then he was in against Ratler. 1161 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 4: He played okay, kept the job. 1162 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 2: Everybody's excited comes to USC wins the Heisman, like you know. 1163 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 2: And he made a comment after about the kid who 1164 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 2: was running on the field with him and when they 1165 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 2: stormed the field, which the kid was in the wrong, 1166 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 2: and he was like, yo, everybody wants to be in 1167 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 2: these twelve and a halfs man, I understand. 1168 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,719 Speaker 4: And it came off the scene. 1169 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: Granted, you're supposed to try to shame somebody in that 1170 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 2: situation that does that, but it felt it came off 1171 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 2: the same way that Lebron came off when he was 1172 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 2: like you go back to your miserable lives. I'll go 1173 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 2: like it was just a bad look, like not necessarily 1174 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,759 Speaker 2: reflective of the character of the person. 1175 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 3: So he almost did a Hillary Deplorables. Yes, yes, yeah, so. 1176 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 4: I understand how it happened. But I am also. 1177 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 2: And I've said this, I believe that he's getting caught 1178 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 2: up in the same thing that I would give gotten 1179 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: caught up in. My son would probably get caught up 1180 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 2: in all of this stuff that I don't know if 1181 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 2: there was enough people fighting against it because they were 1182 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 2: having early season success, which is yo, take the short stuff, 1183 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 2: like you don't have to try to make Heisman plays 1184 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: to go win it again. You are the Heisman guy, 1185 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 2: so you're going to make these plays naturally. You're he's 1186 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 2: trying to force them, and until he stops trying to 1187 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 2: force those moments, he's not going to play at the 1188 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 2: level that he wants to play at. 1189 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 4: So that has been your. 1190 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 3: One complaint about Kayleb Williams this entire time is the 1191 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 3: stuff that he pulls off in college. Having the ball 1192 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:30,839 Speaker 3: for seven eight seconds, that's not an option in the NFL. 1193 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 3: That just immediately goes away. So it's what can you 1194 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 3: do from the from the pocket, you know, And there's 1195 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 3: gonna be people who are just picking apart Michael Pennix Junior, 1196 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 3: just picking them apart for injuries, for staying in college, 1197 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 3: you know, not betting on himself last year. There's gonna 1198 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 3: be a million things people say about Michael Penick Junior. 1199 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 3: What they're not gonna be able to say is that 1200 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 3: he can't work from the pocket. Yeah, because that's all 1201 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: he does, that's where he lives. He has like five 1202 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 3: rushing attempts this year. It's like so with with Caleb Williams, 1203 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, well, you're not gonna be able 1204 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 3: to do all of this stuff. The arm talent's undeniable, Yeah, 1205 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 3: athleticisms undeniable, and he's fantastic, but it people are willing 1206 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 3: to hit the snooze button on concerns so long as 1207 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 3: you're winning. And now, all of a sudden, Lincoln Riley's 1208 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 3: seventeen and four at USC so far Clay Helton started 1209 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 3: what twenty one and six? Yep, Like it's not it's 1210 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 3: not impossible to think that, you know, there are people 1211 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 3: that are affiliated with USC, right now that believe they 1212 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 3: are worthy of Pete Carroll's crown. It's like people don't 1213 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 3: remember there was a time before Pete Carroll and a 1214 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 3: time after Pete Carroll where you weren't getting Pete Carroll results. 1215 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 3: So if you want to step in put on his robe, 1216 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 3: where his crown, do what he did, there's a lot 1217 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 3: that comes with that. And those USC teams they ran 1218 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 3: the ball, yes, And those USC teams they beat your ass. 1219 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 3: Those USC teams had linebackers that could not get on 1220 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 3: the field, that had ten yure NFL careers. 1221 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what is what is the future for 1222 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 2: this USC team? Because they got Utah this week, which 1223 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 2: we'll talk about in just a little bit, but like, 1224 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 2: they got Utah this week and Utah can't score but 1225 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 2: they can defend. Then they get Cal which will be 1226 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 2: a layup. Then they got Washington, Oregon and UCLA. Like, 1227 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 2: out of these four to their last five games against 1228 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 2: three really good sorry, one really good team, one good team, 1229 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 2: and two great teams. 1230 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 3: That's not a schedule. I would want to play with 1231 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 3: the bottom six defense, That's all I have to say 1232 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 3: about that. And I thought when you said what's in 1233 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 3: the future, I thought you were talking about the distant future. 1234 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 3: Notre Dame is a Big ten school with the ACC schedule. 1235 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,639 Speaker 3: You just got your first taste of what life's gonna be. Like, ooh, 1236 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 3: buck well, dude, do. 1237 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 2: You know what would happen to USC versus Michigan right now? 1238 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 2: The way Michigan runs the football and they just plod 1239 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 2: at you like they're not gonna speed up, They're not 1240 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 2: gonna do anything. They're just gonna just it's like a 1241 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 2: bulldozer running at you. Even though that they haven't played 1242 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 2: against anybody good, it like, yeah, they are still dominant. 1243 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 3: You want to know what the one stat from this 1244 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 3: game that blows my mind without looking it up yourself, 1245 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 3: tell me what you think the time of possessions split 1246 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 3: USC pro. 1247 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 2: It was probably close because USC ended up having a 1248 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 2: ball so much because they because Notre Dame was getting 1249 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 2: the ball in just scoring. So let's say thirty three 1250 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 2: to twenty seven, thirty three twenty seven who Notre Dame? No, no, no, 1251 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean USC? 1252 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 3: Okay, thirty five twenty five USC. 1253 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is exactly why time of possession is no indicator. 1254 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 2: Like I want people to understand this, that time of 1255 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 2: possession does not correlate between winning and losing, like it's 1256 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 2: there's no correlation between those two things, Like that's why 1257 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly's teams won so much at Oregon. Time of 1258 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 2: possession is not time of possession in the end of 1259 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 2: the football game. There is a correlation there when you're 1260 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 2: trying to salt the game away at the very end, 1261 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 2: you do have to be able to run the ball again, 1262 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 2: first downs and all of that stuff. But aside from that, nothing, 1263 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 2: nothing at all. It is a myth. It is a lie. 1264 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 2: What what people mistake that for is controlling the game. Now, 1265 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 2: game control is different, which sometimes that can look like 1266 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,600 Speaker 2: time of possession. 1267 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 4: But holding the ball doesn't help you at all. 1268 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 3: And USC had ten more first downs and Notre Dame 1269 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 3: only had two hundred and fifty yards of offense. 1270 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to. 1271 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 3: Know if I've never heard of forty eight points on 1272 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty yards of offense. Yeah, the field 1273 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 3: is one hundred yards The field is one hundred yards long. Yes, Yes, 1274 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 3: this was bad man, And I do I do think 1275 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 3: that UCLA is the third fourth best team in the conference, 1276 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 3: and a lot of that is on Caleb Williams and 1277 01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 3: his receiving course shoulders alone. But it's gonna be tough. 1278 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really tough second half of the year. Now, 1279 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 3: granted they have not lost the game in Pac twelve. 1280 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 3: You got to throw that out there. They're the only 1281 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 3: undefeated Pac twelve team besides Washington. 1282 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it's. 1283 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 3: All of their what what is it the coaches say 1284 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 3: at right after their team craps the bed, All of 1285 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 3: our goals are still in front. 1286 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Of us, Yes, exactly, Yeah, all our goals are still 1287 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 2: in front of us, and. 1288 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 3: So they're in All our goals are still in front 1289 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:27,799 Speaker 3: of us territory. 1290 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yes they yes tech technically they are. 1291 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 2: But dude, if they can navigate this, they deserve to 1292 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 2: be in the in the college football playoff. If they 1293 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 2: can navigate you utah, uh utah, then a week off 1294 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,240 Speaker 2: essentially with Cal, but they may not make it. A 1295 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 2: week off against Cal and then Washington, Oregon and u 1296 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 2: c l a all back to back. If they can navigate, 1297 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 2: they one hundred percent deserve to be in a college 1298 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 2: football player one, like the number one team in the nation. 1299 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 2: Probably like they deserve it all, right, Oregon and Washington, 1300 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:23,679 Speaker 2: what is your what is your thoughts? On that on 1301 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 2: on the game. After having watched. 1302 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:34,479 Speaker 3: It, I had three thoughts. The better team did not win. Uh. 1303 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 3: This reminded me of who's the Who's the the guy 1304 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 3: that Manipacio fought until he lost, fought him four times? 1305 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,479 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Marquez, Yeah. 1306 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 3: You you scrap with somebody enough, You show him enough 1307 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 3: of what you can do, Somebody who's good enough to 1308 01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 3: hang with you, to be around for four different fight. 1309 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 3: They're gonna get you. They're gonna get you. Washington is 1310 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 3: a very good football team. Oregon's let them hang around. 1311 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 3: They made enough calculated decisions risks that didn't go their 1312 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 3: way that Washington was in a point in a position 1313 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 3: to be able to win this game. That's that's how 1314 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,720 Speaker 3: I feel about that. On a neutral site, I think 1315 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 3: Oregon's favored. I think Oregon probably could have won this 1316 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 3: game by ten fourteen. That's yeah, that's my initial takeaway. 1317 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,040 Speaker 3: I thought Oregon was the better team and they got outplayed. 1318 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 3: My other takeaway from this is I don't I'm not 1319 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm around the game of football constantly. I spend six 1320 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 3: seven hours a day thinking about football. I don't understand 1321 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,640 Speaker 3: what a sprint out is, why you would do it 1322 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 3: or why you're. 1323 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not even Oregon's style, Like, that's not 1324 01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 2: even what bo Knicks does does well. 1325 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 3: I don't. What I'm saying is I don't even get it. 1326 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't understand why it exists or what 1327 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 3: the advantage of it is to take half of the 1328 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 3: field away, because it's not even out of a way 1329 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 3: to like trick somebody and do like a throwback, which 1330 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 3: you you wouldn't really want to be making throws behind 1331 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage on fourth down anyway. So I guess, 1332 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand the 1333 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 3: whole point of it in the first place. I don't. 1334 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 3: I don't get why it exists. I don't get what 1335 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 3: it does. It's for you. I grew up watching the 1336 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos Mike Shanahan play action rollouts. That's not what 1337 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 3: this was. No, that's not at all. No, there's no 1338 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 3: misdirection really, So my second observation is I don't understand that. 1339 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 3: And my third is that Michael Pennix is an effing dog. Yeah, 1340 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 3: because he looked like, I don't know if you can 1341 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 3: fake the looks on his face. No, as somebody you 1342 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 3: know who is had hurt ribs her back. Yes, you've 1343 01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 3: you've had. He looked like he was in so much 1344 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,439 Speaker 3: physical anguish, which is probably the right reason they couldn't have, 1345 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, put the game away doing a tush push 1346 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 3: there at the end. I hate it. Hated that they 1347 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 3: line up in shotgun from inside the five. I hate 1348 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 3: that anybody does it. I just hate that you you 1349 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 3: create any space between yourself in the end zone. I've 1350 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 3: never understood that. I've had very smart football people, pro 1351 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,600 Speaker 3: pro football focused people try to explain to me that no, 1352 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 3: it's actually better, Yes, stand further away, Yes, the end zone, 1353 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 3: it is actually better. I'll come. It always seems to 1354 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 3: work out one very specific way. 1355 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 4: It doesn't. 1356 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 2: It does doesn't work for them any any more than 1357 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 2: it does the other team. But like people think, oh, well, well, 1358 01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 2: the the running back is actually standing closer when he's 1359 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,120 Speaker 2: not behind when he when he's because when he's behind 1360 01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 2: the quarterback and the quarterbacks understander, he's seven yards away. 1361 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 2: When he is standing next to the quarterback, he's only 1362 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 2: five yards way, So it's actually closer, and the ball 1363 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: gets in his hands faster and he can make a 1364 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:06,240 Speaker 2: good decision. 1365 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 3: Quicker then take then take the running back out of 1366 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 3: it completely. In wildcat, you're creating a third of the 1367 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 3: second exchange, opportunity to fumble, opportunity for the defense to 1368 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 3: read what you're doing. I don't understand. If you're not 1369 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 3: gonna sneak it, and if you're not physically capable of 1370 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,320 Speaker 3: sneaking it because of because of the hit you took, 1371 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 3: why aren't you just putting your Mississippi State transfer out 1372 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 3: there to take the direct snap. I don't, I guess, 1373 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 3: I just I It's never made sense to me that 1374 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 3: the whole point of the game is physicality. We're having 1375 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 3: this huge national conversation about how annoying the tush push is. 1376 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 3: Nick Saban even said they should ban it before he 1377 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 3: ran it to beat Arkansas. Why why? But that's that's 1378 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,240 Speaker 3: a fourth thing. We got into a fourth thing. I 1379 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 3: think the better team did not win. Michael Penny people. 1380 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 2: Are having a hard time with with with that. Washington 1381 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 2: fans are having a hard time with it. Josh Pate 1382 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 2: put out his top ten, I mean his top twenty five. 1383 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 2: They were like, what, we just beat them, and he 1384 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, but if Oregon were playing them, on 1385 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 2: a neutral field, they would be favored. 1386 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean he this is everything that you 1387 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 3: have to Like the first two times Dan Lanning didn't 1388 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 3: take the field goal and it didn't work out, they 1389 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,760 Speaker 3: were probably celebrating, right, like you could have had six 1390 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,720 Speaker 3: points and you didn't, you didn't take it. They were 1391 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 3: probably celebrating those decisions as mistakes. If you're celebrating those 1392 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 3: decisions as mistakes, that's an admission, that's an emission. If 1393 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 3: you're celebrating that he that mister defense, mister world champion 1394 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 3: defensive guy, went forward on fourth down in the fourth 1395 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 3: quarter instead of putting the game in the hands of 1396 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 3: his defense and trying to punt and buy wash soon. 1397 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 3: You can disagree with it all you want, But if 1398 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 3: you're a Washington fan and you see him run that 1399 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,679 Speaker 3: play and fail and you're celebrating, you're telling on yourself. 1400 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 4: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, and he didn't 1401 01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 4: do it. 1402 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 3: Like if you're celebrating the other coach. 1403 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,639 Speaker 2: Making a bad play call, you're like, oh my god, 1404 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 2: thank god, thank god he called that play instead of 1405 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 2: running the football or just calling a standard issue pass play. 1406 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:19,680 Speaker 2: So now Bo Nickskin like he operates well in that like, 1407 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 2: so then he can potentially run for the first down 1408 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: like you when with those sprint outs it takes so 1409 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 2: much out of the quarterback's hands because you cut off 1410 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 2: three quarters of the field. 1411 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,639 Speaker 3: To me, there's there's and maybe it's growing up Arizona 1412 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,720 Speaker 3: Cardinals fan, there is nothing better than beating a team 1413 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 3: that is better than you. There's nothing better than that. 1414 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Do you think David was stronger than Goliath? Do you 1415 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 3: think David should be ranked above Goliath in the top 1416 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,839 Speaker 3: twenty five or no? I think that, like the biggest 1417 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 3: part of that story is the improbability of it. This 1418 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 3: wasn't even a David versus Goliath. This is one A, 1419 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 3: one B and one B one that's awesome, but like it, 1420 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 3: it's mighty. It's the same problem I have with the 1421 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,719 Speaker 3: overrated change. You go out there, you start calling somebody 1422 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 3: overrated and immediately undercutting your victory. 1423 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,879 Speaker 4: Correct makes no will. 1424 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 3: Never the self own never makes sense to like you 1425 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,200 Speaker 3: should walk away being like, man, they're better than us, 1426 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 3: and we still got them. We were better today, we 1427 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 3: did more today. Like that, I think Washington fans should 1428 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 3: be able to admit maybe not last maybe you know, 1429 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 3: maybe maybe the last two years of Washington winning by three. 1430 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,639 Speaker 3: But you know, to me, I walked away from that 1431 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 3: game being like, ooh, Oregon could have won by fourteen, 1432 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 3: but they didn't. 1433 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 4: Yep, yep. 1434 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 2: All right, now onto our power rankings. 1435 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 3: But you you let me carry that whole segment because 1436 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 3: your team love what is happening here. You should have 1437 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 3: to spend thirty seconds saying nice things about Washington. 1438 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 2: You know I ranked them number one. I've had what do? 1439 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 2: What else do you want me to do? 1440 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 3: Ralph? 1441 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 4: What else do you want me to do? 1442 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 2: I've ranked the I've ranked them above Oregon prior, even 1443 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,040 Speaker 2: prior to the game. I did it because I thought 1444 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 2: that they had earned it. Do I think Oregon is 1445 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 2: still the better team? Yes? But what has Washington earned 1446 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,559 Speaker 2: to be the number one team in the country right now? 1447 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 4: What else do you want from me? 1448 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,799 Speaker 2: Ralph? What else you want me to say? Michael Pennix 1449 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 2: is playing fantastic. This is a really good football team. 1450 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 2: I've said it on Twitter, I've said it on everywhere. 1451 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 2: They are one of the four best teams in the country. 1452 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 2: That was two of the four best teams in the 1453 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 2: country playing right there, and I can't wait to see 1454 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 2: it again in the PAC twelve championship. What else is that? 1455 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 4: Do you do? 1456 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 2: Do you want me to say anything else? 1457 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, Like I think you're the draw 1458 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 3: in this podcast, and people want to know your thoughts 1459 01:27:54,920 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 3: on Oregon losing to Washington and and the six goes 1460 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 3: to listen. They want to see you be sad. 1461 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be sad because you know what Oregan 1462 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 2: is now has taken that loss that they missed opportunities. 1463 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Evan Williams had an opportunity to end the game on 1464 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 2: the first pass, and you know what he did, ran 1465 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 2: right past him. 1466 01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 4: Instead of Michael Pennick. 1467 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 2: Like they call those photo picks like to where like 1468 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 2: you get ready, you look good for the camera. You're 1469 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 2: like throw throw your legs out everything. 1470 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 4: No, he made a bad. 1471 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,439 Speaker 2: Play happens, But you know what, this is actually the 1472 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 2: best thing for Oregon. 1473 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 4: You can't get complacent. Now. 1474 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 2: You gotta go out and knock people's heads off. And 1475 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 2: you know that everything is still in front of you 1476 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,599 Speaker 2: because the AP pole respected you to college Football Playoff, 1477 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 2: is gonna respect you to you go out there, you 1478 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 2: yank yank yang, You run over people from here on out, 1479 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,479 Speaker 2: because you know what that feels like. And then you 1480 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,759 Speaker 2: get back in the conference championship game if they handled 1481 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,439 Speaker 2: their business, which I believe they will, and you kick 1482 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,799 Speaker 2: their ass. That's what you do in Vegas. 1483 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:06,720 Speaker 3: All right, I'm glad to see you being confident. I 1484 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 3: will say that it is funny the difference between usc 1485 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,720 Speaker 3: was undefeated, now they're not. We're talking about all these 1486 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,759 Speaker 3: things they probably need to change and do differently. Oregan's 1487 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,200 Speaker 3: undefeated was undefeated, now they're not. And it's not even 1488 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 3: worth having the conversation because they're not going to change 1489 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 3: a damn thing. 1490 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 2: No, No, it's not. 1491 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 4: It's not happening. 1492 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 3: Any regrets, No, don't have any. Even if we have criticisms, 1493 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,760 Speaker 3: they're not. Nothing is changing. Nope, this is who they've 1494 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 3: been all year long. Yep. They went out there and 1495 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 3: they acted like themselves and they got beat and I 1496 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 3: think they walked away saying like, well we'll see again. 1497 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, our our self is the right thing. 1498 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,320 Speaker 2: That's what that's what you love saying. All right. 1499 01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 3: Now, they went out there and got Meryl streeked. Meryl 1500 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 3: Streep has like fourteen Oscar losses. But yeah, she's mad 1501 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:54,600 Speaker 3: about any of those performances. 1502 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,360 Speaker 2: No, she's like they were all great, all right. The 1503 01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 2: PAC twelve power rankings for this week. I did have 1504 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:05,559 Speaker 2: to make one change Ralph to his power rankings. So 1505 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 2: number one the Washington Huskies, Number two, the Oregon Ducks, 1506 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 2: number three, the Oregon State beav Us. 1507 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:17,559 Speaker 4: Number four. 1508 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,800 Speaker 3: Ducks orgonducts are two and three. 1509 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 2: Dammit, yes, number four. I considered changing this one, but 1510 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 2: I almost went with a change of four and five, 1511 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be cautious. Usc at number four. Number 1512 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,759 Speaker 2: five the Utah Utes. 1513 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,240 Speaker 3: So you would if and if you would have changed that, 1514 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:45,439 Speaker 3: I would have changed it right back. 1515 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:58,720 Speaker 2: Number six the Arizona Wildcats. Are you okay with that? 1516 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, weirdly. 1517 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 2: Number seven, man, Yeah, Number seven the UCLA Bruins. And 1518 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 2: it's not the UCLA's bad, Like, that's the cold part 1519 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,680 Speaker 2: about it. They're not bad. They just not getting quarterback. 1520 01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:14,920 Speaker 4: Play right now. 1521 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 2: If you switch, if you put Noah Fafita on their 1522 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 2: team right now, they're significantly better. 1523 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 3: Yikes. That might be the best thing to convince me 1524 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 3: to get rid of Jayden DeLaura altogether. In the equation 1525 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,599 Speaker 3: for Arizona is what would Noah Fafa do for these 1526 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 3: teams that need a quarterback. 1527 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:45,040 Speaker 4: Oh imagine putting Noah fa Feda on Utah. 1528 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 3: That's a lot to process. Yeah. Man, maybe I'm wrong, 1529 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it's not delicate at all. I 1530 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,280 Speaker 3: just know that James Dolaura, he can't go hopping in 1531 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:53,759 Speaker 3: the portal. 1532 01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't discussed this yet, but we gotta 1533 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 2: be serious about it, right that. 1534 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 4: Would you talk? And UCLA. 1535 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 2: Be better off right now with Jade Delora as their quarterback. 1536 01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, with Noah Flafidez their quarterback. 1537 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,320 Speaker 3: I think the answers yes to both of those. 1538 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 1539 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Now, Jane Dolaura has grown three interceptions against Oregon State, Yes, 1540 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:31,240 Speaker 3: but you might have thrown four touchdowns. 1541 01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you think? So? 1542 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:38,400 Speaker 4: Now? 1543 01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:46,040 Speaker 2: And then we have number eight Washington State, number nine, 1544 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 2: Colorado ten, col Stanford eleven, Arizona State twelve? Are you 1545 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 2: still comfortable with that? 1546 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:03,559 Speaker 3: Comfortable? It is what it is. I don't like hearing 1547 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,599 Speaker 3: twelve and then Arizona State, but it is what it. 1548 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 4: Is, hey, bro, is what it is? 1549 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 2: All right? Now? 1550 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 4: On too? 1551 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,600 Speaker 2: This week's games, first game up because we got no 1552 01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:21,679 Speaker 2: Friday games. Four teams have the week off. Let's go 1553 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:26,040 Speaker 2: with the Oregon Ducks another twelve thirty kickoff. All the 1554 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 2: rest of the games are in the evening. Oregon State, OH. 1555 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,320 Speaker 2: Oregon is hosting Washington State. Oh. Let me pull up 1556 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 2: the line for that game. I thought I had it here, 1557 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 2: but I did not. Oh, Oregon minus twenty, I believe yep, 1558 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,599 Speaker 2: minus twenty over under sixty two? What say you, Ralph, 1559 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 2: I don't twenty is a lot. They just lost forty 1560 01:33:55,360 --> 01:34:00,880 Speaker 2: four to six to at home to Arizona. 1561 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 3: But is Oregon Oregon's not Arizona. Is Oregon gonna play 1562 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 3: aggressive defense? Or are they just gonna be happy to 1563 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,439 Speaker 3: drop everybody back the way that because we just got 1564 01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 3: done talking about how Oregon's gonna Oregon regardless. Yes, so 1565 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,080 Speaker 3: I expect Oregon to be a little bit more aggressive defensively, 1566 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,400 Speaker 3: to just stay in character. And I don't think that 1567 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,840 Speaker 3: that's gonna produce the same results. This Washington State team 1568 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,960 Speaker 3: actually had their way with with Oregon for the first 1569 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:33,599 Speaker 3: three and a half quarters last year. 1570 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,479 Speaker 2: Whole different, whole, different roster, whole different situation they are 1571 01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 2: going to date. I am going to take the under waxy. 1572 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 2: I think Washington State probably scores ten points in this game. 1573 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:53,120 Speaker 2: Oregonna score fifty. Yeah, so I'm gonna take the under. 1574 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the under. But Oregon minus twenty, this 1575 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:04,840 Speaker 2: is gonna see fifty. Yes, yes, God, dang bro. 1576 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,680 Speaker 4: This is gonna be a sacrifice. This is gonna be 1577 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 4: a tribute. 1578 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,200 Speaker 3: Well, we gotta do something different than each other, because 1579 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you're ahead of me in the in the 1580 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,679 Speaker 3: in the picks against the spread. But I'm we've been 1581 01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,719 Speaker 3: kind of a hive mind and we both tanked last week. 1582 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 3: You went three and three, I went to and four. 1583 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I should have stuck with you. You know what, 1584 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 3: I'll take, I'll I will. I'm gonna go with the over. 1585 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,120 Speaker 3: I will take Oregon to cover. I don't feel great 1586 01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 3: about it though, all right, count for anything, but it 1587 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 3: doesn't feel good to me. 1588 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 2: All right? Next game up Utah at USC. USC is 1589 01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:55,480 Speaker 2: favored by a touchdown. Utah's offense is pitiful. Is pitiful. 1590 01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:00,160 Speaker 2: They are averaging twenty one points a game. Kid Like, like, 1591 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,719 Speaker 2: think about how the math on this is working. Utah 1592 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,360 Speaker 2: is averaging twenty one points a game. USC is averaging 1593 01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,880 Speaker 2: forty seven points a game. But the odds makers have 1594 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,200 Speaker 2: this line set at seven. 1595 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 1596 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:25,360 Speaker 2: USC's defense is giving up thirty points a game. Utah's 1597 01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 2: is given up twelve. That's how you get a seven 1598 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 2: point line, apparently, I don't. 1599 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,160 Speaker 4: And the over. 1600 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:40,320 Speaker 2: Under fifty four bro fifty four a meager fifty four 1601 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,200 Speaker 2: for a like like the over under. 1602 01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 4: In UCLA Stanford is fifty three and a half. 1603 01:36:51,720 --> 01:37:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the under. I'm also gonna say USC hovers. 1604 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 3: I think at home, USC's gonna accidentally score twenty eight. 1605 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 3: And I don't think Utah has the ability to get 1606 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty eight because. 1607 01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 2: They've scored twenty eight twice this year. They scored thirty 1608 01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,640 Speaker 2: four last week, and they scored thirty one against Gardner Web. 1609 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,719 Speaker 3: So they have scored turnovers. 1610 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry we were stateing, not Gardner Web turnovers. 1611 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 3: I don't think you see back to back weeks of 1612 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 3: five turnovers. Bro. 1613 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,599 Speaker 2: This line is tricky because you're like, Bro, there's no 1614 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:42,680 Speaker 2: way US just doesn't score. But Arizona held them in 1615 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,640 Speaker 2: a headlock in the beginning of the game, a headlock, 1616 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 2: and then Utah is going to run the ball down 1617 01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 2: their face. But USC should just stack up against the 1618 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,559 Speaker 2: run play man coverage on the outside and say we 1619 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 2: double dog dare you? 1620 01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:06,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? Twenty that's my final answer. USC. Utah was terrible 1621 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,519 Speaker 3: in LA for fifteen years, Like they were terrible and 1622 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 3: then they it was funny the second they started to 1623 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 3: win in LA is when the is when the uh, 1624 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,639 Speaker 3: the LA schools were like, you know what, We're done 1625 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,479 Speaker 3: playing Utah. So instead we're gonna go to a conference 1626 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 3: where everyone plays like Utah and we're gonna have to 1627 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 3: travel even farther to get galaxy brain moved by the 1628 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 3: LA schools. But uh, for the most part, Utah is 1629 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,120 Speaker 3: not the same on the. 1630 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 4: Road, Ralph, I'm gonna do it. 1631 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:40,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna take the under well. 1632 01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 2: USC still managed twenty points last last week, so I'm 1633 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 2: going to do exactly what you said, twenty eight to twenty, Ralph, 1634 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 2: twenty eight to twenty. But I'm taking Utah plus seven. 1635 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 3: That means Utah twenty eight, USC twenty. 1636 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:09,840 Speaker 5: That's exactly what that means if mister money line, Yes, yes, Wow, 1637 01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,080 Speaker 5: that feels like an adventure. 1638 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,240 Speaker 4: That feels like I'm gonna. 1639 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,680 Speaker 3: Be feels like Wavos Grandes. 1640 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 2: All right, Ucla Stanford, UCLA is favored by seventeen points. 1641 01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:32,320 Speaker 2: Ralph over under fifty three and a half. Stanford's defense 1642 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:37,719 Speaker 2: can't can't get turnovers, and they're bad. I am taking 1643 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 2: but Dante Moore can't throw another pick six. He can't 1644 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:52,519 Speaker 2: or can he. I'm going Stanford plus seventeen, even though 1645 01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 2: I think UCLA is gonna win this game, and I'm 1646 01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,200 Speaker 2: gonna take the under in this game too. No, actually, 1647 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over in this game. Well, actually, 1648 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,720 Speaker 2: if the if the overhits, then UCLA is gonna be 1649 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:12,519 Speaker 2: plus seventeen. I'm gonna go the under in Ucla plus seventeen. 1650 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,880 Speaker 3: I am all about the over in this game. I 1651 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:22,120 Speaker 3: don't uh Ucla. Chip Kelly's not really tank back to 1652 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 3: back games like that. They'll get it figured out. Stanford's very, 1653 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 3: very bad defensively. They still gave up that twenty nine 1654 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,479 Speaker 3: in the first half to Colorado, and Colorado didn't even 1655 01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 3: break a sweat. UCLA should be able to do something similar. 1656 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,439 Speaker 3: So give me forty forty two to fourteen forty two seventeen. 1657 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 3: Either way, Ucla covers and the overhits all right. 1658 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 2: Last game up, Arizona State plus twenty six and a 1659 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,000 Speaker 2: half at the Huskies home in Husky Stadium at seven 1660 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:55,920 Speaker 2: point thirty at night. 1661 01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 3: I We're not We're not. We're not even entertaining I win. 1662 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 2: This was Arizona and not Arizona State for a seven 1663 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:07,160 Speaker 2: thirty kickoff. Oh my god. You know you know that 1664 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 2: this would go down to the last possession if that 1665 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 2: were If that were the case, I do believe that 1666 01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 2: Washington is able to keep this momentum going, even after 1667 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 2: that the emotional win last week. 1668 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,599 Speaker 4: I don't think that they're gonna win by twenty. 1669 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 2: By four touchdowns though, So give me Arizona State. If 1670 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,679 Speaker 2: it were plus twenty, I would take Washington, But I'm 1671 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,519 Speaker 2: going with the Yeah, Arizona State and the over unders 1672 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,800 Speaker 2: fifty nine and a half. I'm taking the over. Who 1673 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 2: won this game last year, Arizona. 1674 01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 3: State, Yes they did. Who is quarterback? 1675 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 4: Oh Trenton borgae. 1676 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 3: Asu plus twenty six and a half? 1677 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,320 Speaker 2: Hey, all right? 1678 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,000 Speaker 4: So it is he gonna win this year? 1679 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:03,320 Speaker 2: Though? 1680 01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,559 Speaker 4: No, No, we can't. We can't have this. 1681 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 2: Like I cannot have Washington this year. 1682 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 4: I cannot have Washington lose this game. 1683 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,519 Speaker 3: Also, like anybody who's followed Arizona State for any length 1684 01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,759 Speaker 3: of time whatsoever, knows that, like there's the home Devils 1685 01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,920 Speaker 3: in the Road Devils, and the Road Devils are not 1686 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,680 Speaker 3: They'll compete, but they you know, they struggle. So I mean, 1687 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 3: just look at the game at Cal this year. That's 1688 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 3: the perfect, perfect encapsulation of of who this team is. 1689 01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:39,000 Speaker 3: I think that Pennix is gonna have a huge game, 1690 01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 3: and Arizona State defensively has been solid. But this is 1691 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,440 Speaker 3: the same Washington team that handed Brian Ward his ass 1692 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:52,560 Speaker 3: in the in the Apple Cup last year, dropped fifty one, 1693 01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:58,120 Speaker 3: So give me the over. But I think that I 1694 01:42:58,160 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 3: think Arizona State's gonna be able to move the ball. 1695 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,680 Speaker 3: It's just will Kenny Dillingham have the patience to be 1696 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,600 Speaker 3: able to put together some sustained Yes, yes, yes I do, 1697 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,840 Speaker 3: because you're you're not gonna be able to headtop a 1698 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:12,599 Speaker 3: lot of these like giant safeties and dbs, but you'll 1699 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 3: you'll move the ball if you're patient, you will move 1700 01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,599 Speaker 3: the ball against Washington, And I do think there's gonna 1701 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,960 Speaker 3: be somewhat of a hangover. I think seventeen to twenty 1702 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,400 Speaker 3: points is what would have given me pause. Twenty six 1703 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,280 Speaker 3: is insane if they cover. Kudos to them it'll look 1704 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 3: great for the conference. But I don't think they do. 1705 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that that's very very reasonable. All right, 1706 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 2: now it is on too. I don't know how I 1707 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:44,920 Speaker 2: let you catch me. So tell the people what's what's 1708 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,719 Speaker 2: going on because I took multiple l's last week. However, 1709 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,760 Speaker 2: my son did get his first tackle football win this 1710 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 2: last weekend, Katie did. Yes, Yes, they had only scored 1711 01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:02,679 Speaker 2: one touchdown all season and then they they scored two 1712 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:03,160 Speaker 2: and one. 1713 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,559 Speaker 3: Well, my eighth grader got in a game where they 1714 01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,600 Speaker 3: were up thirty eight to nothing and immediately gave up 1715 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:12,880 Speaker 3: a touchdown. So what he got to play? So he 1716 01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 3: was excited. I don't. I didn't didn't have that professional 1717 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:22,160 Speaker 3: athlete DNA. I just it's the he's a smart ass 1718 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 3: that that got passed down. But uh yeah, I think 1719 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,880 Speaker 3: we're on different levels here. So we if your first 1720 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:36,240 Speaker 3: time player, yeah uh we if your first time listener, 1721 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,000 Speaker 3: we do a player of the week contest. Every week 1722 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,559 Speaker 3: we pick a player, uh and we go ahead to 1723 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,679 Speaker 3: head with the other person's player. But as the better 1724 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,040 Speaker 3: game you get points. It's a quarterback one point, skill 1725 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,840 Speaker 3: position player two, defensive player three. You cannot repeat picks 1726 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,840 Speaker 3: during the season, so it's kind of like a survivor pool. 1727 01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 3: I am up six to four. Last week, I picked 1728 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,840 Speaker 3: Roma Dunes, that you picked Bucky Irving. Bucky Irving had 1729 01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 3: a fantastic game, but Roma Dune's that game winning catch 1730 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 3: was uh multi faceted because it helped me win as well. 1731 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,679 Speaker 3: I was down for nothing. Now I'm up six four 1732 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:12,160 Speaker 3: heading into this week. Uh, who are you going with? 1733 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,080 Speaker 3: Are you gonna try to make two point play to 1734 01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 3: catch up? You're gonna go super risky, go three point play? 1735 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,800 Speaker 3: Who are you going with to be your champion this week? 1736 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 4: George Colin Shalif? 1737 01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 3: Wow? Really? 1738 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think they're gonna run all over Stafford. 1739 01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 2: Man. 1740 01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 3: You want with a backup quarterback? 1741 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,840 Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, sorry, sorry, that's not That's not the 1742 01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,639 Speaker 2: one I want. I was thinking the uh the other 1743 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:43,439 Speaker 2: white guy. 1744 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:46,759 Speaker 3: Oh the Carson Steele. 1745 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Sale Steal. Yes. 1746 01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:54,559 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said anything. I shouldn't have said anything. 1747 01:45:56,200 --> 01:46:02,479 Speaker 3: I should have let you pick a wildcat package running quarterback. 1748 01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,320 Speaker 2: And then he would have went and scored three touchdowns 1749 01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:05,559 Speaker 2: and I would have only got one point. 1750 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:07,360 Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Budi. 1751 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, who I wonder thinking about going for the throat 1752 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 3: here and picking a defensive player. I don't think there's 1753 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,680 Speaker 3: anybody out there that's really good enough to warrant that. 1754 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 3: So if you're going with Carson Steele, I'm gonna make 1755 01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:33,599 Speaker 3: it interesting. I'm going to I'm gonna ride the hot hand. 1756 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,679 Speaker 3: When I say hot hand, I mean the scorching hot hand. Okay, 1757 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,559 Speaker 3: And this is risky because he didn't do it in 1758 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:45,200 Speaker 3: any other game but one, but he deserves it. He 1759 01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 3: deserves it after what he pulled off. I'm going with 1760 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 3: the Canadian elik iomaor. 1761 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 2: Man, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Oh God, 1762 01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:58,880 Speaker 2: thank you, Ralph, thank you. 1763 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 3: Than giving you a reason and I'm giving you a 1764 01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,800 Speaker 3: reason to be glued to U. C l. A. Stanford 1765 01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,120 Speaker 3: biting your fingernails. 1766 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,479 Speaker 2: Dude, this is a layup of a win. As long 1767 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:14,879 Speaker 2: as Carson Steel starts and finishes the game, I'm good. 1768 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:20,120 Speaker 2: I am minor will will will vanish back into obscurity 1769 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,040 Speaker 2: after you don't follow up, dude, he is gonna be 1770 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,000 Speaker 2: like a Maria Miller this week. 1771 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,200 Speaker 3: So this is so, this is what I was after. 1772 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,200 Speaker 3: I was after this salmon. This is the risk I'm taking. 1773 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:37,439 Speaker 3: It's not just about going up eight four. It's about 1774 01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 3: this soundmit, because if I hit on this, I'm gonna 1775 01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:45,160 Speaker 3: have this clip. And I know that there's not a 1776 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,080 Speaker 3: ton of Stanford fans. 1777 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,840 Speaker 4: So did you know that I was going to react 1778 01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:48,080 Speaker 4: like that? 1779 01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because it's silly. It's silly, right. You had 1780 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,559 Speaker 3: one guy have three hundred yards receiving in one week 1781 01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,600 Speaker 3: and he's going up against a good ul. 1782 01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,080 Speaker 2: Or will he pooka nakoul like the first four games 1783 01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:01,719 Speaker 2: of the season. 1784 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,799 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, that's so, that's just it. Sometimes 1785 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,639 Speaker 3: you find out and then you gotta go you gotta 1786 01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,920 Speaker 3: go back to him to find out if uh, if 1787 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,439 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the case, it's u c l A 1788 01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:17,680 Speaker 3: is not Colorado, They're not. Then again, then again, if 1789 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,840 Speaker 3: we went for worst coaching decision, what was the worst 1790 01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,439 Speaker 3: coaching decision of the week. Was it not bringing over 1791 01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 3: help on iom or for Colorado? Yes? Was it not 1792 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 3: running the ball for Chip Kelly Because it's hard for 1793 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,760 Speaker 3: me to say Lincoln Riley being Lincoln Riley is a 1794 01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:40,640 Speaker 3: bad coaching. 1795 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:48,120 Speaker 2: Running because you just caused more and more turnovers. That's 1796 01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,639 Speaker 2: why so is that you lost the game you should 1797 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,080 Speaker 2: have won. But then so did Cot. But Colorado probably 1798 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:56,120 Speaker 2: would have found another way to lose if it weren't 1799 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,360 Speaker 2: that way. So sure, sure, I'll go with I'll go 1800 01:48:59,400 --> 01:48:59,840 Speaker 2: with Chip. 1801 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:07,720 Speaker 3: How mad will you be if we don't have any 1802 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,679 Speaker 3: more undefeated teams after this weekend? 1803 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 2: What don't mean that Washington lost to Arizona State, Bro, 1804 01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:25,400 Speaker 2: I'll be furious, dude. That is something that Washington would do, like, 1805 01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:29,880 Speaker 2: I would be, like, just find a way to just 1806 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,719 Speaker 2: snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, because that would 1807 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,519 Speaker 2: make everybody else in the Pac twelve look terrible. 1808 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,400 Speaker 3: All right, Because I'm just throwing it out there because 1809 01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,840 Speaker 3: in the event that this ends up being a Dylan. 1810 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:53,240 Speaker 2: Morris game, what's a Dylan Morris game? 1811 01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,799 Speaker 3: A game in which Michael Pennix is not available to play? 1812 01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,839 Speaker 4: Is that that's not possible? 1813 01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:05,400 Speaker 3: I agree, it's probably probably not. He looked hurt hurt 1814 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,800 Speaker 3: to me. I'm just I'm just saying, listen. 1815 01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 2: He finished that damn football game. He knows what's at 1816 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 2: what's at steak. He knows what's at steak. He better 1817 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,360 Speaker 2: be his ass better be on the field. I will 1818 01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,479 Speaker 2: go hunt him down myself, how about that? 1819 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,800 Speaker 3: All right? So the last thing that I want to do. 1820 01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:26,760 Speaker 3: The last thing that I want to do is I 1821 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,920 Speaker 3: want to capture your reaction to what I just sent 1822 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 3: you on Twitter. You don't want to talk about Oregon 1823 01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:39,120 Speaker 3: Washington anymore, but I just sent it. DM. This will 1824 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:40,720 Speaker 3: be where we leave off this episode of the Pack 1825 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:49,639 Speaker 3: to Old Bustles. I want you to read this out loud. 1826 01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:56,519 Speaker 3: This is just absolutely great radio right now, Silence. 1827 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:06,120 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy, Maxwell Award Best Player, Davey O'Brien Award Best QB. 1828 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,360 Speaker 2: Michael Pennocks junior ninety three point three overall grade leads 1829 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 2: QB's freestyle about how they were going to beat Oregon 1830 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,960 Speaker 2: right before the biggest drive of his life. 1831 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:22,280 Speaker 3: Check out this video clip. Jalen McMillan said that Michael 1832 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:27,280 Speaker 3: Pennix was freestyle rapping about coming back to beat Oregon 1833 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:29,120 Speaker 3: on the bench. 1834 01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:34,320 Speaker 4: Ay rol. 1835 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:41,640 Speaker 2: Nobody like, Okay, all right, keep your keep your keep that, 1836 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:42,960 Speaker 2: keep that same energy. 1837 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,599 Speaker 4: Just just keep winning and keep that same energy. 1838 01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 2: Please please, how about you make a whole freaking music video. 1839 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:51,000 Speaker 4: How about that? 1840 01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:56,080 Speaker 3: Do that? I want to I'd love to see like 1841 01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,160 Speaker 3: bo Nick's yodeling on the sideline. 1842 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:03,040 Speaker 2: Whatever, dude, get the funk out of. 1843 01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:08,800 Speaker 3: Here, all right, I'm mad at Unafraid Show dot com. 1844 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,120 Speaker 3: You can follow us on our social channels at PEC 1845 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:17,960 Speaker 3: twelve apostles. Make sure to share, leave a review, Maybe 1846 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,920 Speaker 3: stand George Reister a box of Kleenex for his tears. 1847 01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:22,439 Speaker 4: Alright, Be's out,