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Speaker 1: It's welcome through the Naughty but Nice Show on your

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Speaker 1: host M Shooter and it is Thursday, which means our

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Speaker 1: dear friend Mark Lupo joins us, Hey, Lupy, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Lou is here?

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Speaker 1: I love that. It just makes me. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we found it. I didn't call you Loopy Lou

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Speaker 1: before the show, and we would hang out get drinks.

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Speaker 1: So when i'd see you in a work environment, you're

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Speaker 1: always Mark. Cute. Mark is what we used to call it,

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Speaker 1: nice loopy Lou.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like how performers have stage names, like

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Speaker 2: Beyonce has Sasha fear So I'm.

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Speaker 1: Who is Loopy Lou? How is Loopy Lou different from

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Speaker 1: Mark Lupo.

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Speaker 2: He's naughty but he's nice, like I think.

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Speaker 1: Mark Lupo is naughty but nice too. Mark Lupo might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more naughty.

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Speaker 2: Than nice sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Mark everybody Kevin Jonas. If you're listening, Mark, we should

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Speaker 1: explain to you. I got a few questions after last

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Speaker 1: week's show. Your boyfriend is called Kevin, but because he's

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Speaker 1: a little bit mysterious, I've not met him, we call

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Speaker 1: him Kevin Jonas. Mark is not dating Kevin Jonas of

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Speaker 1: the Jonas Brothers. So a few naughty is like God

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Speaker 1: in touch with me, saying Joe Jonas has broken up

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Speaker 1: with Sophie and now now Kevin's broken up with his wife,

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Speaker 1: I think Daniella and he's with Mark Lupo, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's not so terrible terrible rumor. It's a different it's

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Speaker 1: a different Kevin. Okay, let's jump into the show. What

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Speaker 1: time is it? My friends? It is story At the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, Britney Speers his mom, Lynn is

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Speaker 1: apparently working as a substitute teacher as she struggles to

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Speaker 1: pay the bills. So Britney Speers mom has reportedly fallen

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Speaker 1: on hard times following the fallout with her multi millionaire

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Speaker 1: daughter Britney's birth about sixty seventy maybe eighty million. The

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail are reporting that Lynn is struggling to pay

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Speaker 1: as a substitute teacher, trying to make ends. Meets now

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Speaker 1: a couple of things here. At first, I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, she's not working in a coal mine.

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Speaker 1: This is a lovely job. A part time teacher is

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Speaker 1: a lovely job. And parents have jobs, Like, just because

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Speaker 1: your daughter's Britney Spears, we are shocked by this. But

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Speaker 1: my mom and dad had jobs. They retired. Your mom

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Speaker 1: and dad have jobs, they might still have them. Your

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Speaker 1: mother waves in the dental office, And so I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we should be that surprised by this. Why

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Speaker 1: are we like outraged? Why are you like Britney's mom

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Speaker 2: I think we're outraged because she lived this lavish lifestyle

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Speaker 2: for so many years on Britney's dime, a two million

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Speaker 2: then suddenly she was cut off and now she's working

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Speaker 2: for fifteen dollars an hour, and that's the hard reality

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Speaker 2: of her choices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's life, isn't it. What are you think about it?

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Speaker 1: If you become super rich, if you become a Britney Spears,

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Speaker 1: and that's one in a billion, you know, it's very,

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Speaker 1: very difficult to be Britney Space. So we've got to

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Speaker 2: Where she is.

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Speaker 1: If you're worth that sort of money, should you pay

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Speaker 1: for your family? Your friends? Like, where are you on that?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you owe anyone anything. I think if

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Speaker 2: give gifting when it makes sense. But her family, as

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Speaker 2: we know, have taken advantage of her for many many years.

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Speaker 2: Even up until recent times, her mom was trying to

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Speaker 1: Says, when does the stop?

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Speaker 2: When does it stop?

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Speaker 1: That? I think you've just really explained it well to me.

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Speaker 1: Market's pushing your luck. I do quite well, and I

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Speaker 1: And I'm happy to pay for drinks at body, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a friend of mine. You might know this person

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine. I always was just buying the drinks,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my dad always pays for dinner.

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about Doris. I've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: No pete. My dad is very generous when it comes

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Speaker 2: to paying for things, vacations, whatever. But you know, my

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Speaker 2: brother and I also make that gesture, the effort to

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what it is. I say, like, I

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Speaker 1: it's going to be expensive before I can't pay that taxi.

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Speaker 1: Mysti is absolutely not. I'm not going to make you

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Speaker 1: my dinner. And I really am grateful for it. Another

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Speaker 1: one of my rich friends is Elvis Dran from C.

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Speaker 1: One hundred. Elvis always pays to the point where it

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Speaker 1: I do do it, and he doesn't. I think, no,

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Speaker 1: And it becomes no longer a novelty. It becomes an expectation.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened. I think with Brittany and her mom,

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Speaker 1: And that's now why the harsh reality is so so dramatic.

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Speaker 1: It's so sort of like shocking, because there's nothing like

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Speaker 1: having that money taken away. I've had jobs that I

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Speaker 1: haven't enjoyed, and I've pitched a moan about them. Being

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Speaker 2: There's nothing promised to any of us. And that's that

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Speaker 2: is the harsh truth. And so I think this also

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Speaker 2: shows she was irresponsible and that she's expected things. And

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Speaker 2: she's sixty eight and it's not going to get any

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Speaker 1: And you do get used to a certain lifestyle. I

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Speaker 1: living very very well. You know. The thing is, if

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Speaker 1: somebody is willing to pay for you, if somebody pays

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Speaker 1: for all your stuff, just be nice to It's hard.

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Speaker 1: If you're nice to me, I will pay if you're

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Speaker 1: If I go for drinks with you that I buy

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Speaker 1: it and you insult me, and I've paid for that insults,

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Speaker 1: I stopped doing it. It's that easy. Tell yourself that

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Speaker 1: all the time. I remind myself, we're lucky, Mark. We

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Speaker 1: get invited to some brilliant events places we have no

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Speaker 1: business going. Yes, I remind myself that part of the

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Speaker 1: bargain is I have to be nice that night. If

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Speaker 1: an effort. That's why they're buying me drinks. And they

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Speaker 1: Nice show, which we always do do. What are you

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Speaker 2: Something you will not believe. How nice I am at

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Speaker 2: these events? I am. I stroke the ego of any

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Speaker 2: publicist invites me things. I love free stuff. Please invite

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Speaker 2: me to everything. I will show up and I will

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Speaker 2: compliments you your outfit, your personality.

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Speaker 1: That's lovely shoes. I love your bag. Oh you're so

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Speaker 1: bad that I do that? Yeah, doing your free food? Okay,

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Speaker 1: brings us to our pole question. After the day Brittany

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty you know, that's what happens in the world.

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Speaker 1: People get jobs, they get papered. My question is, should

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Speaker 1: Brittany just give her mommy money? Should you just give

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Speaker 1: her mommy money? Maybe some of you say yes. Eighty

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Speaker 1: it if it's missing, Although the mom wasn't very nice, Brittany,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Lupie,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have an Angelina July.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't do a lot. We don't do a lot

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Speaker 2: her divorce and hasn't felt like herself. Okay, So Angelina

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Speaker 2: Jolie says she is still in a transition as a

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Speaker 2: person as she approaches the age of fifty, and she said, quote,

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Speaker 2: like I've biden myself for a decade in a way

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Speaker 2: which I don't want to get into now. She told

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Speaker 2: this to the November twenty twenty three Vogue cover, which

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Speaker 2: she looked really beautiful, the pictures of Sunny.

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Speaker 1: I mean the cover, it's not subtle, she said, A

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Speaker 2: she's like she's in her feelings in this cover, and

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Speaker 2: require long shoots, and this started around twenty sixteen, which

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Speaker 2: kind of alludes to the aftermath of her divorce from

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Speaker 2: Rad Pitt. She said, quote, we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: we're still finding our footing.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I have feelings about this one. It makes me

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Speaker 1: sad that this is consumed to her for six seven years.

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Speaker 1: But I do understand that breakups are really really difficult,

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Speaker 1: even if your superstars, even if you have a lot

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Speaker 1: We all trauma in our life. I'm not diminishing Angelina's

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Speaker 1: trauma here. It seems really really bad, but there is

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Speaker 1: I move on relatively quickly.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Some people would say, including my therapist, that I'm in denial,

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Speaker 1: but I do try to pull myself together. I won't

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Speaker 1: and I can forgive myself too. I really learned how

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Speaker 1: to do that? Mark forgive yourself, Angelina. Whatever was done

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice One. Rob shoot

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Speaker 1: a review if you can. Mark. I just looked on

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Speaker 1: There's millions, millions of podcasts on the entertainment charts. The

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Speaker 1: Naughty but Nice Show Today is number two and it's

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