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Speaker 3: I am Joshua Pe Warren, and each week on this show,

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Speaker 3: I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises,

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Speaker 3: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a

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Speaker 3: lot more on this edition of the show. What is instinct? From?

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Speaker 3: Where does it come? I believe this is a profound question.

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Speaker 3: How is behavioral info automatically passed along through physical matter genes?

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Speaker 3: Now let me repeat that, how is behavioral info automatically

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Speaker 3: passed along through physical matter genes? And what is the

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Speaker 3: orig of this info? Does it mean that there is

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Speaker 3: a god that there is an intelligent design. If not, well,

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Speaker 3: what is the source of instinct, because we toss that

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Speaker 3: word around a lot, Well, why does an animal behave

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Speaker 3: in a certain way? It's just instinct? Oh okay, end

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Speaker 3: of story, end of discussion. Just an instinct. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: we're talking about more or less a blob of cells here.

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Speaker 3: You know, with DNA, the scientists will say, we put

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Speaker 3: this under a microscope. It's a physical thing, and yet

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Speaker 3: when it evolves and develops, it has this behavior. This

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Speaker 3: is actually I think this topic is so important that

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Speaker 3: I'm almost intimidated to try to explore it because I

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Speaker 3: don't think I can do it accurately. So let's just

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Speaker 3: start with the ban shall we. Let's go to the internet,

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Speaker 3: and let's just read what the basic you know, like

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Speaker 3: Wikipedia sort of standard definition is of what instinct even is.

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Speaker 3: We'll start here. Instinct is the inherent inclination of a

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Speaker 3: living organism towards a particular complex behavior, containing both innate

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Speaker 3: That means inborn and learned elements. That's kind of interesting,

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Speaker 3: but it says The simplest example of an instinctive behavior

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Speaker 3: is a fixed action pattern also known as a fat FAP.

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Speaker 3: A fixed action pattern in which a very short to

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Speaker 3: medium length sequence of actions without variation are carried out

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Speaker 3: in response to a car corresponding clearly defined stimulus. Now,

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Speaker 3: don't worry that if that didn't make perfect sense. It's

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Speaker 3: a very clinical way of looking at it. So it

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Speaker 3: being based upon prior experience, that is, in the absence

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Speaker 3: of learning, and is therefore an expression of innate biological factors. So,

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Speaker 3: for example, sea turtles newly hatched on a beach will

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Speaker 3: instinctively move toward the ocean. A marsupial climbs into its

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Speaker 3: mother's pouch upon being born. Other examples include animal fighting,

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Speaker 3: animal courtship behavior, internal escape functions, and the building of nests.

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Speaker 3: Though an instinct is defined by its invariant innate care characteristics,

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Speaker 3: details of its performance can be changed by experience. So

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Speaker 3: absence of learning. But an instinct can, however, be augmented

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Speaker 3: upon prior experience or learning. Instincts are inborn, complex patterns

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Speaker 3: and should be distinguished from reflexes. So again, and I'm

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Speaker 3: that automatically happens based upon a stimulus, whereas an instinct

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Speaker 3: it says that we're not just talking about animals. However,

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Speaker 3: Ziatato zoome, and I'm talking about the mystery of instincts

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Speaker 3: and the origin of instincts. Let's talk about instincts in

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Speaker 3: human beings. According to Officialdom here one is congenital preparedness.

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Speaker 3: otherwise protect itself for survival during its long period of maturation. Okay.

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Speaker 3: something that unfortunately sticks with most people for life. Don't

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Speaker 3: and uh, it's quite intriguing. The headline here is does

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Speaker 3: the Earth reside within the depths of a black hole?

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Speaker 3: By T. K. Randall? And it says that might sound unthinkable,

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Speaker 3: but is our universe simply the interior of a black

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Speaker 3: hole that is situated within another universe? Now I understand

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Speaker 3: where you're like listening right now and you're like, what

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Speaker 3: is it? What is this? What is this guy talking about?

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Speaker 3: So here's basically the idea. What ultimately happens to everything

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Speaker 3: that gets consumed by a black hole? Well, it's it's

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Speaker 3: a mystery, you know. They say it's all compressed into

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Speaker 3: this infinitimally small point in space. But does it then

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Speaker 3: emerge somewhere else? Is the inside of a black hole

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Speaker 3: like a universe unto itself? Is it possible that we

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Speaker 3: are inside of one? Right now? Physicists have been trying

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Speaker 3: to understand the nature of our universe for centuries, but

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Speaker 3: one theory that has not really been discussed much is

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Speaker 3: that Earth, and by extension, our entire universe, is actually

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Speaker 3: situated inside of a black hole, which is itself located

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Speaker 3: within another universe. Like Russian nesting dolls. Perhaps universes can

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Speaker 3: exist inside one another and black holes are the key.

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Speaker 3: Is it true that if you get sucked into a

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Speaker 3: black hole you're just spaghettified? You know, you've seen that,

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Speaker 3: You're just like, you know, shredded or do you just

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Speaker 3: pop out? So look, this is one of those stories that, uh,

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Speaker 3: you can just go on and on with it. But

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Speaker 3: it may be the case. And you know, there are

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Speaker 3: so many weird things that are flying around us all

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Speaker 3: the time that we can't explain, you know, whether or

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Speaker 3: not these could be parts of a multi dimensional or

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Speaker 3: inter dimensional thing. You know. John Carter, he is a guy,

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Speaker 3: he's a friend of the show, and he lives in

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Speaker 3: Canada and he makes a lot of great UFO videos

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Speaker 3: UFOs worldwide. He just recently published this new book called

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Speaker 3: the UFO Identification Handbook Preventing Misidentifications, and it has a

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Speaker 3: SkyWatch Journal included, and it's got a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: information about me and Mobius and Jason Saraci. It's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: If you go to Amazon dot com and you may

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Speaker 3: have seen this on my social media, and you look

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Speaker 3: up the UFO Identification Handbook Preventing Misidentifications by John Carter

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Speaker 3: c R t Er, you can read all these stories

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Speaker 3: about this, you know, from this guy who's an expert,

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Speaker 3: who's breaking down for you all the bizarre things that

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Speaker 3: are flying around out there and how you can compare

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Speaker 3: them to what we now know to be you know,

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Speaker 3: modern stuff like drones and everything. But look, I don't

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Speaker 3: mean to go off into all kinds of crazy directions.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, when we come back from

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Speaker 3: this brig, I want to read you at least one

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Speaker 3: or two spooky stories. But I also want to squeeze

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Speaker 3: in this special little mental manner that I do once

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Speaker 3: in a while that my wife Lauren just loves. It's

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Speaker 3: called it's time to make my wife mad. You know,

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Speaker 3: I hope she doesn't listen to this. She probably will,

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Speaker 3: But sometimes I use my podcas cast to try to

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Speaker 3: try to get a point across in my relationship we'll

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Speaker 3: see if it works. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 3: AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back.

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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 4: There's more Joshua Pee Warren and Strange Things coming right up.

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Speaker 6: Before the Art Belvault has classic audio waiting for you.

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Speaker 6: Now go to Coast to COASTAM dot com for details.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's not and you're listening to the iHeart Radio

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Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Ironormal Podcast Network. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things

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Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 3: I am your host, Joshua P. Lauren, and I told

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Speaker 3: you that I hope that my wife Lauren doesn't hear this,

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Speaker 3: and I'm actually joking because she listens to every show.

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Speaker 3: And I do this segment sometimes at the end of

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Speaker 3: the show I call a mental manna, which just gives

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Speaker 3: me an opportunity to just talk about whatever kind of

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Speaker 3: random things are are on my mind. And so I

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Speaker 3: have this philosophy that if I do this segment once

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Speaker 3: once in a while called it's time to make my

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Speaker 3: wife mad. The idea is that if I, if I

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Speaker 3: ridicule Lauren on this podcast, then our relationship will be

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Speaker 3: better and she will love me more. And I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that I mean, Am I right? Ladies? Doesn't that make sense?

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Speaker 3: I'm joking. I'm joking. Please do not send me hey emails. No, No, honestly, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I've Lauren and I have been together more than half

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Speaker 3: of my life, and we both tease each other and

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Speaker 3: and I it's a kind of relationship where we have

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Speaker 3: a great sense of humor. And if I were a

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Speaker 3: stand up comedian then she would not mind a bit

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Speaker 3: if I got up there and told, you know, wife

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Speaker 3: jokes and stuff like that. But so what I actually do, however,

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Speaker 3: is sometimes I bring up some kind of a marital issue.

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Speaker 3: Because I could sit here and tell you, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: let me tell you how much I love my wife,

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Speaker 3: nobody wants to hear that. No. Instead, I want to

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Speaker 3: bring up a conflict that we have and let's see

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Speaker 3: if we can we can get your feedback here and

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Speaker 3: settle this and see who's who's right and who's wrong. Okay,

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Speaker 3: are you ready? Well, Lauren and I we are always

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Speaker 3: hanging out. Of course, I mean, we're together way more

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Speaker 3: than I believe most married couples are. We don't have kids,

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Speaker 3: so you know, anytime we're gonna be focused on another person,

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Speaker 3: that's usually each other. And so anytime we go out

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Speaker 3: to I don't know, a restaurant, a store, especially like

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Speaker 3: a restaurant though, because we get to a lot of

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Speaker 3: restaurants together. So when it comes time to leave, we'll

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Speaker 3: we'll always go to the to the bathroom before we leave,

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Speaker 3: which is a good piece of advice, by the way,

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Speaker 3: because you never know what's gonna happen, if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: get stranded on the side of the road or stopped

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Speaker 3: in traffic or anyway. So we go to the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: I go to the men's room. She goes to the

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Speaker 3: lady's room. So then here's what often happens. I will

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Speaker 3: come out of the men's room and I'm standing there

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Speaker 3: waiting for her outside of the lady's room, and I

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Speaker 3: wait and I wait and I wait, and I go, man,

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Speaker 3: I hope she's okay in there. And sometimes, now this

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Speaker 3: has got to be pretty extreme, but sometimes I will

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Speaker 3: even open the door of the lady's room and just

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Speaker 3: say Lauren, and then at some point she will call

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Speaker 3: me or shout to me and say she is at

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Speaker 3: the front door or possibly even in the car. This

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Speaker 3: whole time, I'm standing outside the lady's room and she

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Speaker 3: has abandoned me. She's gone all the way out, and

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Speaker 3: see like, to me, that doesn't even cross my mind.

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Speaker 3: When I come out of the bathroom, I figure I'm

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Speaker 3: just waiting for her. And then I go out and

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Speaker 3: I say, Lauren, I can't believe that, you know, you

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Speaker 3: just ran off to the you know, and left me.

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Speaker 3: And she goes, Do you think I'm gonna say, I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to stand in front of the bathroom? She says,

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Speaker 3: that's weird. I'm like, no, it's not. People do that

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Speaker 3: all the time when a couple goes to the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, and this is again, this is instinct

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Speaker 3: to me. If you go to the bathroom and then

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Speaker 3: you come out, you just stand there and you wait

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Speaker 3: for the other person outside the bathroom. She says, Nope,

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Speaker 3: that's too weird. So now I never know when I

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Speaker 3: come outside the bathroom if she's still in the bathroom

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Speaker 3: or if she's on the other side of the property,

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Speaker 3: because she finished at lightning speed. She thinks that her

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Speaker 3: thoughts on this is normal, and I think that my

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Speaker 3: thought on this is normal, and I think that it's

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Speaker 3: respectful to wait outside the bathroom and nobody's going to

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Speaker 3: care when you wait for the other person. But you know,

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Speaker 3: she has the opposite opinion, and she's just not willing

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Speaker 3: to budge on this, and you know, I guess she's

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Speaker 3: not willing to budge. I guess eventually I'll have to

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Speaker 3: just acquiesce. But you know, sometimes you might get a

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Speaker 3: call or a text and it doesn't come through. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just gonna like leave it up

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Speaker 3: to you. If you want to give me your opinion

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Speaker 3: on that, you can email me or message me through

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Speaker 3: social media and maybe we can settle this situation of

579
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: like what are you supposed to do in that situation?

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Speaker 3: So you see, it's not that bad. It's actually kind

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Speaker 3: of interesting, isn't it. So there is my mental manner.

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Speaker 3: Time to make my wife man okay before we have

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Speaker 3: to go, let me go to emails and let me

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Speaker 3: see if I can read a creepy story or two.

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Speaker 3: How about that. This is from David, who is an

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Speaker 3: entrepreneur in Michigan. He said. I was living with a

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Speaker 3: woman friend and walked past a bay window in her

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Speaker 3: living room. Out of the corner of my eye, I

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Speaker 3: saw an old woman sitting outside at her patio table,

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Speaker 3: and when I tried to look directly at her, she

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Speaker 3: was gone. I told my friend about it, and she

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Speaker 3: asked me to describe the old woman. I told her.

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Speaker 3: She wore a fancy dress with flowers on it with

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Speaker 3: lace along the edges. She was wearing a brooch and

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Speaker 3: had her grayish white hair in a bun. My friend smiled,

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Speaker 3: led out a little chuckle, and then got up and

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Speaker 3: a few minutes later came back with a picture. And

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Speaker 3: when she showed it to me, goosebumps shot all over

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Speaker 3: my body. It was the old woman, her mother, just

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Speaker 3: as I described. I love stories like that, where it's

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Speaker 3: like instant verification. Welcome to the club. You've seen a ghost,

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00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: all right? Let me squeeze in one more from Christopher Anton.

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Speaker 3: He is a mechanic in Fresno, California. When I was

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Speaker 3: nine years old, my two brothers and I were playing

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Speaker 3: hide and seek. We were outside with our parents and

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Speaker 3: they were doing yard work because nobody was in the house.

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Speaker 3: I figured that would be the best place to hide,

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Speaker 3: so I ran inside and vanished into the living room closet.

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Speaker 3: As I was standing in the very back corner, I

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Speaker 3: felt something hit my leg. I wondered what I had

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Speaker 3: knocked over, so I turned on the light, but nothing

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Speaker 3: was there. The area around me was clear, so I

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Speaker 3: didn't think much about it and turned the light off

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Speaker 3: and went back to the very back corner. Well. Suddenly,

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Speaker 3: a large hand grabbed my ankle and pinned it against

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Speaker 3: the corner. My stomach was in my throat. I opened

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Speaker 3: the door and grabbed onto the door jams. I had

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Speaker 3: one leg out and the other leg being pulled into

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Speaker 3: the corner of the closet. I looked to see what

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Speaker 3: had me that. I was only able to see half

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Speaker 3: of my leg as the rest was in complete darkness.

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00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: Finally I managed to break free. I ran across the

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Speaker 3: street and sat on the curb, staring at the house.

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Speaker 3: At that moment, it occurred to me that if it

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Speaker 3: was the devil I had encountered, this meant he was real.

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Speaker 3: This initially scary epiphany, however, meant that God was real too. Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's an interesting way of looking at it, huh. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Christopher and David. Yeah, I guess you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: that's part of it, right, Like you have negative experiences

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Speaker 3: to awaken you to the idea that if bad things

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Speaker 3: are real, then good things are real as well, and

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Speaker 3: that will help inspire you to go towards the good things.

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Speaker 3: It's like putting your hand in a flame. It seems

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Speaker 3: like a bad thing because it burns you, but it

635
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Speaker 3: actually is a good thing that you feel that pain

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Speaker 3: because it tells you to move away from it. You

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Speaker 3: get this information, you get these indications in life. It's

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Speaker 3: always a matter of perspective and context, isn't it. Well, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know what time it is. It's time to end

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Speaker 3: the show, and I'm gonna do it with our original

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Speaker 3: good Fortune tone. If you have a glass of water,

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