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Okay, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: let's get things started. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: All right, here we go fifteen twenty, twenty five, thirty 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: thirty five, forty forty five fifty the checks clock stop. 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: Oh by god, bes, please stop all that. It's a literal. 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Night. 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: It's not passage on the dog in the fighting. It's 17 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: the sage of the fight in the dog. Welcome to 18 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: the Big Bets on Campus Sources edition presented by win Bet, 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: my co host the award winning news breaking Action Network 20 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: Zone Brett McMurphy. First reported by our own Brett McMurphy. 21 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy is Sources and I am Action Network Senior 22 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: writer Colin Wilson, a guy that will keep on betting 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: LSU when ty Davis Price is running like it's twenty 24 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: nineteen for LSU and trying to get the Heisman. Brett, 25 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: what's your takeaway from week seven? Not just the scoreboard, 26 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: but do we got we gotta start with Coach O, right. 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: You know, I think it was pretty evident that Coach 29 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: O would not be back with the LSU next year. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: You know, he said that basically after the loss to 31 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: Kentucky that that's when Scott Woodward kind of gave him 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: the heads up this was not going to be long term. 33 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: And I understand why LSU has been a five hundred 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: team since winning the national championship in twenty nineteen. But 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: also there's a lot of other things going on behind 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: the scenes. They've got currently, they've got some Title nine 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: issues going on that we talked about last week. Coach 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: O may or may not have knowledge of some of 39 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: those things that went on, and then just kind of 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: how he handled himself as a head coach. You know, 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: it's it's fun and you know it's great for a 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: click on Twitter when you see him saying, hey, you 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: in the sissy blue pants. 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Right, hey, hey, right, yes, on right, yes, on your 45 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: sissy blue shirt. 46 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: You know. 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: And but you know, come on, could you imagine, you know, 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: Saban saying something like that. No, it's there's a way 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: to handle yourself when you're in public. Ozern did not 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: do that very well. That's what made him so polarizing. 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: And when you're winning national championships, schools are fine with that. 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: But then when you start losing, and then you start 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: seeing hearing about some things behind the scenes. You see 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: a number of LSU players that either opted out or 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: didn't play because of injuries, then you're wondering are they 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: not playing because of oderon? And bottom line is Scott 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: Woodward has made some tremendous hires in his career. He 58 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: hired Chris Peterson at Washington, he hired jimbo Fisher at 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: Texas A and m. This guy makes big time hires, 60 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: and I expect him to do the same thing at 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: LSU because you look at LSU, the last three coaches 62 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: that have been there, Nick Saban, Les Miles and at Odron, 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: they all won national championships. 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of schools that can say that. 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: No, there's not. And I mean LSU is a great program. 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: They are in a very rich territory for recruiting. They 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, listen, coach O. He doesn't fit 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: the profile of a head coach, but at least with 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: this job different from USC and different from Ole Miss 70 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: is that he knew that if he would be more 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: of a maybe like a counselor to the players and 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: let the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator do their jobs, 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: that probably things would get done a little bit more efficiently. 74 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: And that happened when Steve Inslinger had Joe Brady, and 75 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: that happened when Dave Randa was around and they had 76 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: full control over both offensive defense. But these hires on 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball have not worked out whatsoever. 78 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: And then things started leaking out last week about how 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: the entire offensive game plan was being changed, running schemes 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: were being changed, they were going to start doing a 81 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: little you know, did a little different zone blocking. I 82 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of a shock to see 83 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: them beat Florida as a double digit underdog, and for 84 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: his resignation and not surely if this is like truly 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: a resignation or more of we've just come to an 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: agreement that at the end of the year, which the 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: joke going around Twitter right now is coach O's record 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: as an interim head coach is like somewhere around eighty 89 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: percent against the spread ninety percent straight up, so he's 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: going to do so much better. But in my opinion, 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: this is not a fade LSU team. They just won 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: a huge game against Florida. Now there's direction, like we 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: know that this is the swan song for coach oh 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: who's been along with this program for five six decades. 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: He played here, He's Louisiana to the heart, and you 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: know those players that signed up for LSU football to 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: play for him are going to give everything that they have. 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: These coaches are now officially auditioning for new positions somewhere else, 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: and I might be playing LSU every single I think 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: I've already played them this week. I am because Matt 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: Matt Corral is officially questionable, But I think LSU is 102 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: a play on team for the rest of the season. 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: That sounds crazy. I think the general public is going 104 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: to want to fade him, But wouldn't that doesn't everybody 105 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: have the feeling like, let's do this for coach. 106 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I think so, and I agree with you, and 107 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: I think that's a large reason why Scott Woodward want 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: to make this decision. Now, Basically, they came to an 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: understanding they were going to get rid of Les Miles 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: when he was there, and then Miles kept winning and 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: so they couldn't get rid of him. So they did 112 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: not want the same thing to happen. They did not 113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: want LSU to win out and then you're stuck with 114 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: Ozeron for another year. So that's why they went ahead 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: and cut the cord. Now, but you're right, you would 116 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: you would think that those guys will play fro And 117 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: you know, the the question I wonder is, you know, 118 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: will they will they let him take them to a 119 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: bowl game? Because that, in essense, delays when the new 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: guy comes in. Also, how many play you know, all 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: the talent they have, how many kids are going to 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: want to actually play in a bowl game that's going 123 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: to be you know, Birmingham Bull or Music City or something. 124 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: They're not going to a New Year six game. So 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: will they want to play in a lesser bowl? Yeah, 126 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: it's doubtful, but that's a few weeks off. 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, But the bigger thing too. Is also the early 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: signing period that thing got bumped up to. I think 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: it's the Friday or Saturday when the first balls start, 130 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: and you would want to have your new head coach 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: in place at least ten days in advance before that 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 2: early signing period for recruiting, so you know, the recruits 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: know who that they're signing up for. So LSU even 134 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: maybe participating in a Bowl, it's an interesting I don't 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: know who's going to be the interim coach. Do the 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: players want to play for someone besides coach Oh? Why 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: would coach O do it? That's going to be an 138 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: interesting thing. So I think their last game of the 139 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: season is probably going to feel like the Coach O 140 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: super Bowl. And you know, I don't know. I'm probably 141 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: gonna be playing LSU from here on out. We're gonna 142 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: have some questions in the speed round about this. But 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: let's cover the Jimbo Fisher angle because you mentioned that 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: Jimbo was a very successful hire before and Jimbo came 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: out and like wanted to make it very clear that 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: he is not leaving Texas A and m whatsoever. I 147 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: hate to ask this. I don't want to piss any 148 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: fan bases off. Is that would be a lateral move 149 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: for him to move over to LSU. Would he do 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: it for the relationship that he's had in the past 151 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: with the ad. He has everything he needs at A 152 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: and M and now Texas in the SEC. It's not 153 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: like there's this big divide. It's a lateral move to LSU, 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: is it? 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Or I would put LSU. 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: Over A and M because you've won a nation You've 157 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: won national titles there. Like I said, the last three 158 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: coaches have won national titles Texas. A and M may 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: have won a national title way back in the don't 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: Texas say and M has not won a national title 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: because they have a blank trophy case waiting for Jimbo 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: to put the national title in there. 163 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: I don't support just keep fighting with us. 164 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: We ain't quitting on you. Please don't quit on us. 165 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. There's no reason to be nasty. 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: So no, I think l s u's LSU is a 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: better job. You're the only team in the state Texas 168 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: A and M. You're divided with state of Texas about 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: fifty other schools in Texas. Obviously you're you're one of 170 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: the two biggest ones he obviously he knows the speculation 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: that's out there. 172 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: Everyone knows his relationship with Woodward. 173 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: And also, you know, Jimbo has actually been involved in 174 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: at least three times for the LSU job and for 175 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 4: whatever reason, he was playing hard to get or he 176 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't pull the trigger and do it. 177 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: And I think I think. 178 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: Woodward and the LSU brass are like, Okay, we've we've 179 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: done the dance with Jimbo enough. He didn't wouldn't do it, 180 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: so we're not even going to consider him. But grab 181 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: your TV guide. On November twenty seventh, LSU's final home 182 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: game against Texas aanam. 183 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: Very very bad blood teams running scores up and then 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: when the two teams were competitive, we're talking games going 185 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: into multiple overtimes. Two point of that. That is a 186 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: very heated rivalry. So yeah, that is that is definitely 187 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: going to be a main TV watch with the audio. 188 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll revisit this about who we think 189 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: the coach is going to be. But you know, I mean, 190 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: there's just so many names I've read out there that 191 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: I think people all these other media than Glomber, It's 192 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: just immediately came up with twenty names, and like, I 193 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: never saw anyone like Eric b Enemy, like the offensive 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: coordinator for the Chiefs. I didn't see a lot of 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: names that came to my mind. So we'll keep talking 196 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: about this as the weeks go by. I'm gonna move on. 197 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Let's Iowa lost, you know, I mean the blue bloods 198 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: of oak Wahoma and Ohio State. You and I've been 199 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: talking about Ohio State for weeks that, like the schedule's there, 200 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: they're going to get back into this thing easy. Oklahoma 201 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: now looks like a national championship offense. I can't really 202 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: say anything about the defense, but they're right back in 203 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: the mix for the College football Playoff. Is it clear 204 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: that our top two is Georgia and Oklahoma now? Or 205 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: is Ohio State up in that mix? You know, where 206 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: are we going to go from here? With who the 207 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: top teams of the nation are? 208 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: Well on my ballot, I had Alabama number two behind Georgia. 209 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: I had Oklahoma three, Cincinnati four. I got Ohio State 210 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: behind Oregon. I still value head to head matchups. 211 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: I know you don't. 212 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: I know you've got Ohio State in your top four. 213 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: The thing with you know, talking about Ohio State Georgia, 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: Alabama and Oklahoma and all the crazy upsets we've had, 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: the more upsets we have, and if everyone just keeps 216 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: beating themselves, then we're going to end up with those 217 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: same four teams anyway. So unless everybody's got two losses 218 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati's the alien unfeated team, we're gonna end up 219 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: with some kind of version of Georgia and or Alabama, 220 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: Oklahoma and Ohia State. 221 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. As much as this for everybody's been screaming for 222 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: chaos for seven weeks, now, I'm starting to see a 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: clear path where the blue bloods all make it. Now. 224 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: That brings me to Cincinnati. A team that you know, 225 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: I thought should have made the playoff last year, continued 226 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: to win games, even though I think their till game 227 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 2: with Tulsa was delayed three different times. But you know, 228 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: things couldn't get any bety better for Cincinnati. The only 229 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: hurdle they have left they beat Central Florida. The only 230 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: hurdle they have left on their schedule is SMU, and 231 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: they get SMU at home. They don't have to play Houston. 232 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: Houston is not on their this little scheduling snafu. Houston 233 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: is undefeated and they don't have to play them, but 234 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: SMU has to play both Cincinnati and Houston. So Cincinnati 235 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: is a big time in the driver's seat. We'll have 236 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: to see it. If they stay undefeated. Listen, you're not 237 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: gonna get in. You're not go I think a one 238 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: loss Ohio State with the Big Ten championship is gonna 239 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: easily be over Cincinnati. 240 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: Right you said, well they miss Houston. 241 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: I think you know they could get them in the 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: American Championship Game. But Cincinnati needs to play more teams 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: that are ranked. I mean the fact they're playing you know, 244 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: these Tomato Cans, Navy, TWU Lane, Tulsa, USF the next 245 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: four weeks. That doesn't help them at all. They can 246 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: win all those games one thousand and nothing, it's not 247 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 4: going to help them. People are going to just sit 248 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: there and say, oh, you beat a bunch of bad 249 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: teams with losing records that you're supposed to beat. Who 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: have you beaten on your schedule that is either a 251 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: ranked Notre Dame currently or as a winning record right now, 252 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: they're down to Notre Dame. They play SMU, and I 253 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: believe that's it. That as a winning record right now, 254 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 4: so they right now, they only have two teams on 255 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: their schedule that have a winning record. I know the 256 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: Group five doesn't get a lot of respect, but I 257 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 4: just can't wrap my mind around thinking that a team 258 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: that goes undefeated and if they only end up playing 259 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: I guess Houston would be the third ten of the 260 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: thirteen opponents have losing records and you beat two Power fives, 261 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: That to me is not a playoff resume. 262 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, they need Notre Dame to win out. They needed 263 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: they needed Indiana to beat Michigan State. 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: Indiana's five hundred at best, I don't even have to 265 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: go in a bowl game now. 266 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: They're probably gonna be five and seven. 267 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: That sucks for Cincinnati, but that's the reality of it, 268 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: you know. 269 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mikey Keane is not doing Gabriel, So you know, 270 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: Central Florida was not a big of a hurdle as 271 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: we thought it would be. I'm gonna pivot. There's a 272 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: couple of sneaky teams out there that are undefeated or 273 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: maybe have one loss, can win their conference championship. But 274 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: Wake's remain at Wake forour specifically, I know this is 275 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: a team that I laid a wager on a couple 276 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: of weeks ago to win the ACC. The remaining schedules Duke, 277 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: un C, NC State, that's a huge game, Clemson and 278 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: BC So there's work for Wake to do. But the 279 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: real focus on a Power five really comes down to 280 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 2: the PAC twelve. You and I did a great job 281 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: calling you thought to beat Arizona State, but it did 282 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: kind of take Arizona State out of any kind of 283 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: national title contention. The PAC twelve may officially knock themselves 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: out of the playoffs this weekend if UCLA is able 285 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: to beat Oregon. So is this probably the last time 286 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: we're ever talking about the PAC twelve? 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: If UCLA beats Oregon, Yes, if we're wins, I still 288 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: think they're alive. They do have the head to head, 289 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 4: you know, the question is what will the committee do 290 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: with the twelve and one Pack twelve champion Oregon in 291 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: a twelve and one Big Ten champion Ohio State? Who 292 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: would they rank higher? They value the head to head 293 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: a great deal, but looking at the schedules at that 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: point Ohio State, if they do go twelve and one, 295 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: they would have victories over ranked Penn State, ranked Michigan 296 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: State at ranked Michigan. So that's three wins. Oregon would 297 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: have the win against Ohio State, and that's it as 298 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: far as ranked teams, unless they get somebody in the 299 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: in the packed rostas ranked or somebody. 300 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, so you basically three. 301 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: Ranked opponents versus none or excuse me, Ohio State was right. 302 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: So three ranked opponents for Ohio State, one for Oregon. 303 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: But Oregon won the head to head. So how much 304 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: does that how much weight does that carry? I hope 305 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: that happens. It'll be fascinating. Again, it doesn't matter what 306 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: you or I think. It's a beauty contest, it's the 307 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: opinions of these thirteen individuals. 308 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: If Oregon loses that game, you're potentially looking at a 309 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: Utah Oregon State pactual championship. Oh they play this weekend, 310 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: so you know someone's got to take a loss there. 311 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: We might be done talking about the PAC twelve as 312 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: far as national title concerns and just really be talking 313 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: about who's going to make the Rose Bull But the 314 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: fact that Oregon State to go win this weekend goes 315 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: a long way into the Beavers making the Rose Bowl. 316 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: Pretty impressive stuff. One other thing I have to ask, 317 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: because I know that this is going to be on 318 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: the slate for our live show on Saturday. UCLA and 319 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: Organ playing this weekend? Is this a big deal to 320 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly? Like, I mean there was. It was a 321 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: mutual parting of ways, Like there's other things I want 322 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: to do. I think I've taken Organ to where they 323 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: want to be and I got in a stuff I want. 324 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: How big is this for Chip? Playing Organ? 325 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: Huge because of his history with the Oregon but also 326 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: you know it's also big because you know Chip's trying to, 327 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: you know, make UCLA relevant again and you can't, you know, 328 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: make a bigger statement than game day being there and 329 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: beating Oregon. Maybe you can make a run at the 330 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: at the PAC twelve South title. You know they're not 331 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: They're still in the running. You know they're obviously they're 332 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: gonna need a lot of help. But this would be 333 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: big for Chip. There's going to be added incentive for him. 334 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: And like we said earlier, it would it would knock 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: out Oregon and the PAC twelve from college football playoff 336 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: contention if the Bruins can win the game. 337 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon's got a lot of talent on a team, 338 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: but those quarterbacks behind Anthony Brown are young. They have 339 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: got to get a little bit older. So that'll wrap it. 340 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: That'll wrap it up for the roundtable before we head 341 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: into speed Round. I think you've got another cliffhanger here 342 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: for me. 343 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do, Collin. 344 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: So last week had a trivia question for we'll try 345 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: another trivia question this week. It revolves around the Heisman Trophy. 346 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: Who is the last Heisman Trophy winner that did not 347 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: play in every one of their team's games. So I'll 348 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: let you think about it for a little bit. We're 349 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: gonna talk about the Heisman a little bit later and 350 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: then I'll tell you who that person was. 351 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: That is a really tough question because it's interesting that 352 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Matt Corrall might set out this weekend. It's a really 353 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: good relevant question because Matt Corrall might be out this weekend. 354 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: If you're playing the long game and you're Kirby Smart, 355 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: you're sitting JT. Daniels half the year not trying to 356 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: win any personal awards. So let me think about that 357 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: one for a little bit. All right, Let's transition into 358 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Sources Speed Round. 359 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: The Sources Speed Round. 360 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: All right, So this is the segment I get to 361 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: ask Brett as many questions as possible in a sixty 362 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: second span. If I hear something that may have a 363 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: gambling deliverable, I'm going to call a time out on Brett. 364 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: So I'm not even going to ask Bread if he's ready. 365 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: We are just going to start right now. Helton's out, 366 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: Coach O is out, Chad Lungs for down to Georgia 367 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: southerns all out? Is Manny Diaz gonna be out before Thanksgiving? 368 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: No? 369 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: Will he return next year to Miami? 370 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: Now? 371 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: Who would you hire at Miami next year? 372 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: Mark stoops to Kentucky? 373 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: Who would you rank higher for the Collegeball playoff? Right now? Today? Alabama, 374 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: who is a loss of tax a and m or 375 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: Ohio stated as a loss at home to Oregon. 376 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: Alabama because of their win over ranked Ole Miss. Ohio 377 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 3: State right now does not have any ranked victories. 378 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Joe Brady makes four hundred and thirty five thousand dollars 379 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: with the Carolina Panthers. Is he a true leader for 380 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: the LSU job? No? What are the chances that LSU 381 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: goes G five with Jamie Chadwell from Coastal Carolina doing 382 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: amazing things? Or a Jeff Trailer at UTSA who's doing 383 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: amazing things on his own swim and then so true 384 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: or false the mustard bottle at neland was actually a 385 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: flask of whiskey snuck into the game. 386 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 4: False, as Lane Kiffin said, They're not gonna waste whiskey 387 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: throwing it on at him. 388 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: So mel Tucker went from five hundred thousand at Georgia 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: to two point four million for one year at Colorado 390 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen five point five million at Michigan State. 391 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: Will he be with the Spartans next year. 392 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: It's doubtful, all right, time out, time out. 393 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: When they said that Brett McMurphy is joining the Action Network, 394 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: I knew that you were going to be sitting on 395 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 2: a pileot information and you're not gonna this is it. 396 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: I feel like there's some mel Tucker information. I feel 397 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: like there's some LSU information, Like, can you shed anything 398 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: about melt Tucker specifically? 399 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he could get a look at I 400 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: think he could get a look at LSU. 401 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: And also, we talked a couple of weeks ago about 402 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: urban Meyer. If for some reason urban Meyer does not. 403 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 4: Return next year, I think mel Tucker would be one 404 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: of the top candidates to take over the Jacksonville Jaguars. 405 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: That's a I hadn't even thought about that, but man, 406 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: props to the agent of Mel Tucker to go with it. 407 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: With these salary jumps, I mean, who else is exponentially 408 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: building their salary from five hundred thousand to five point 409 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: five million in the span of just a couple of years. 410 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Who else has gone from five hundred thousand to five 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: point five million and a span of about four years. 412 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: Chad Millman, all right, So last question of the speed 413 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: round dumpster fire Team of the Week Colin. 414 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: This week it is multiple teams. Before you call a 415 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: time out, let me explain. It is the seven schools 416 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: in the state of Florida. Look, I live in Florida, 417 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: but it has been bad here. I'm going to name 418 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 4: the guilty parties Florida, Florida State, Miami, ucf usf FAU, 419 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 4: and FIU. Those schools combined are eleven and twenty six 420 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: against FBS opponents this year. Florida is the only one 421 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: currently with the winning record and they are four and three. 422 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: Who Ray combined, they are four and fifteen against Power 423 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: five opponents. By comparison, they were eighteen and fourteen last year. 424 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: Florida is known as the Sunshine State not now in 425 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: the college ranks. The Bucks are great the Florida College's state. 426 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: Florida is considered a part of the Big Three when 427 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: it comes to talent rich blue chip recruits, California, the 428 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: state of Texas and state of Florida. Is this a 429 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: head coach problem or is this a is this players 430 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: leaving the state? Is the is the quality of the 431 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: players not there? Has the high schools gone down the drain? 432 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: Jim mcelwaine won two SEC East titles with the Gators 433 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 4: and he was dismissed basically, and now Dan Mullen comes in. 434 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 4: Had a great deal of success at Misissippi State. He 435 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: has not replicated that success with Florida. People say, well, 436 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's still he's still won, you know whatever, 437 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: eighty percent of his games, et cetera, et cetera. Bottom 438 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: line is you gotta win national championships. Steve Spurrier did, 439 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: Urban Meyer did that is the standard same with LSU. 440 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: You gotta win national championships. Dan Mullen has not done that. 441 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: And I think sometimes he has kind of a laid 442 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: back attitude. He's front up north, but he's kind of 443 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to say lack of days ago. 444 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: That's not fair. But sometimes you. 445 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: Know, he's not a big raw raw guy, or he's 446 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: not gonna, you know, give you a great saving SoundBite. 447 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: I mean he shows up wearing Darth Vader mask and stuff. Look, 448 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: when you're winning national titles, when you're winning sec titles, 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: that's great. You know, people love it. But when you're not, 450 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: then they use that stuff against you. Look, I'm not 451 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: saying he's in any hot water, but how ironic was 452 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 4: it that there was a coach on the hot seat? 453 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: Flaming hot seat and coach coach? Oh and you know, 454 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 4: numerous reporters that I follow, we're tweeting out, you know, 455 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: are we talking about the wrong coach on the hot seat. 456 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm not ready to put moll On on the hot seat, 457 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: but certainly four and three is not what the Gators 458 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: envision this year. 459 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: Quite an interesting scene what's going on down in the 460 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: state of Florida. 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We're going to segue over to the 476 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: AP Top twenty five versus the Action Networks Top twenty five. 477 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: So Brett, it was really good to wake up on 478 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. See like you and I have agreement on 479 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: the top three, but it all really fell apart after that. 480 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: We agreed on We agreed on Georgia Babau. The AP 481 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: voters have Cincinnati at number two. Forty two voters in 482 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: the base had Cincinnati at number two, and one voter 483 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: had them at number five. Is this a preview of 484 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen in the college football playoff rankings coming 485 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: in two weeks. I mean that we're only two. 486 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 4: The committee's not going to put Cincinnati at number two 487 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: because the reason is if they put them at number two, 488 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: then they're going to be locked in there if they 489 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: went out, how do you shuffle them down three or 490 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: four spots. 491 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati will come in at four. 492 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: Which will be big. I mean, at least they'll be 493 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: considered that they'll be in the playoff, even though they 494 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 2: would have a spread of about fourteen against Georgia. You know, 495 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: as pointed out in your article on Action Network, Florida 496 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: is seventh of my power ratings, but they're within four 497 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: points dropping out of the top twenty five. So when 498 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: you do a power rating, like when you're gambling and 499 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: you have your own set of power ratings, like you 500 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: drop four points, you could take a big dip. Like 501 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: I mentioned, LSU had three touchdowns as a result of 502 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: Emery Jones's ion T's and Anthony Anthony Richardson's I and TS. 503 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: Does Florida deserve blame or is LSU averaging seven point 504 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: one yards rushed per the story? Because really, I think 505 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 2: this is the question really shouldn't be is the LSU 506 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: rush offense back. It's is Todd Grantham gonna get fired? Right? 507 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean this guy at four and three is Todd 508 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: Grantham gone? 509 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: It probably doesn't look good. 510 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: I do not have any inside information that he will 511 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: not return, but certainly you would think his future does 512 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: not look bright right now. 513 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: And that's someone that Dan Mullens brought with him from 514 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: Missippi State. I mean, there's been a long history with 515 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: him and Grantham, so it should be. It's interesting. So 516 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: I want to do a shout out to one of 517 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: the voters, to the Colton Birtholomew of the Wisconsin State Journal. 518 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: He has Penn State number four, but he has Oklahoma 519 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: at number eight and Oklahoma State. Your cowboys winning got 520 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: ou number eight and Oklahoma State at number fifteen. Now 521 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm not as slow at Oklahoma State. They're at twenty two. 522 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: This game that is in Stillwater, if it was played 523 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: right now, I would make it sooner as minus nine 524 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: and a half. Interesting. They moved it up because they 525 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: didn't I don't know. They moved it up to the 526 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: beginning of November. They finally moved it back to its 527 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: regular time slot that it's been for one hundred years. 528 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: The Polks have won this game twice since two thousand 529 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: and three. Are you holding out hopes on your alma 530 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: mater of getting it done this year? At home? Good defense? 531 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: Right? 532 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: You said on the BBOs Live show. You've heard it. 533 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: They won, they covered, and actually they won twice since 534 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: two thousand and three. 535 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 3: I was at one of the one of the two games. 536 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: No next question, No, Oklahoma, Oklahoma will beat Oklahoma State. 537 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: I've seen this movie a thousand times. Oklahoma will beat 538 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: Oaklham State. One game sums up the series. I'm not 539 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 4: going to go into it because I could go thirty 540 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: minutes into it. But it was the year that Marcus 541 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: Dupre left Oklahoma the week before the game OSU bleue. 542 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: I think it was a twenty to three lead or 543 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 4: twenty to six lead in the fourth quarter and lost. 544 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: And after the game, Jimmy Johnson told his radio announcer 545 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 4: doing his postgame show, if I can't beat O you 546 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: this year, I'll never beat him. He left after that 547 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: year to go to the University of Miami. 548 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: Very very interesting that I can't beat him. You might 549 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: as well do something else, I guess, And he took 550 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Michael Irvan with him. You know, and you know what 551 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I knew it seventeen to three, eighty five yard pick six. 552 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: Here comes the Brett McMurphy dead tweet, right back, Abby, 553 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: I knew it was coming. So is good? 554 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Are you are you gonna? Are you gonna mention now 555 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: or Saturday? That I was five and oh in the 556 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: Havoc groun. 557 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I went two and three. I had 558 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: such a substange. Oh it was terrible that Georgia first half. 559 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 2: I'm still burned. Yes, you went five and oh. 560 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: We will make sure the why five oh is my 561 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: favorite show by mine? 562 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: All right, So the organ victory Overhio State, you know, 563 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: the keeping the AP vote in the top ten, This 564 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: trip to UCLA, which I believe right now on the 565 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: board via win bet minus two and a half on 566 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: the Bruins opened to a pick. It's a packed twelve 567 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 2: knockout game. From a national championship perspective, you don't have 568 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: another top another Pac twelve team in your top twenty five? 569 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: Does the Rose Bowl representative move to Utah Oregon state winner? 570 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: With the Ducks losses this week? Like? What are we 571 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: doing in the Pac twelve? Could we possibly see like 572 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: a four loss team in the Rose Bowl this year. 573 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: Whoever wins the Pac twelve, if they're not in the playoff, 574 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: they go to the Rose Bowl. So who is that 575 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: gonna be. You know, your guess is as good as 576 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: good as mine right now. 577 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: I mean Wake went to the Orange Bowl with four 578 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: losses or was it five losses? I mean there have 579 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: been four or five loss teams going to one of 580 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: the New Year sixes, So we could be headed down 581 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: that path real quick. Sucky and I talked at nauseum 582 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: about Michigan State and their horrible post game win expectancy 583 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: on our pot or Recap podcast. I believe it was 584 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: about thirty nine percent, even covering the four four and 585 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: a half on Indiana. But I want to pivot over 586 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: to San Diego State. You know, there's six to zero 587 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: with Fresno, Nevada Boise. They got a trip to the 588 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: island to go. They're four point underdogs this week to 589 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: air Force this weekend. Bennett Conlin of the Daily Progress 590 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: ranks the Aztec's tenth. Brett, can you just explain to 591 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: the voters a little bit about how San Diego State 592 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: is in the top twenty five and how big that 593 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: zero in the lost callon means. 594 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: Apparently, it means a lot to a lot of people. 595 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: There's only eleven unbeaten teams, so maybe his first eleven 596 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: teams are all unbeaten. I wonder where he has UTSA. 597 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: I wonder if they're in at number eleven. I'm sure 598 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: they're not. You know, Look, San Diego State gets a 599 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: lot of credit for their wins against Arizona and Utah, 600 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: but yeah, they have not been that impressive. If they 601 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: ran the table, Coast of Carolina suffers a loss, Cincinnati 602 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: suffers a loss, maybe, just maybe they could climb up 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: and get a group of five New Year six game. 604 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: I can't stop San Diego State overs, Like it takes 605 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: everything in me not to bet overs on this team. 606 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is. It's like when 607 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: you go to a casino and you play three card 608 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: poker or let it ride the house. The house has 609 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: like a seventy percent advantage on you have no chance 610 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: of getting your money back. And that's how I feel 611 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: when I stepped to the table for San Diego State overs. 612 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: I just want to bet it, see what happens. Let's 613 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: have some fun. So all right, we'll see how it 614 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: goes this weekend as underdogs to air Force. Let's move 615 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: into the Heisman handicap. 616 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: This is your Heisman handicap. 617 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: The Heisman Trophy is awarded to all right. So these 618 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: odds are via wind Bet. A little bit of movement 619 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: from last week. Matt Corrow's at plus one point fifty. 620 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: Keep an eye, Lane said today. Of course, we're not 621 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: supposed to believe coaches, right. Brett Lane said today that 622 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: Matt Corraw's probably not going to play this weekend. He 623 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: did have over thirty rushes against Tennessee in that game, 624 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: maybe a little beat up Bryce you on a two 625 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: to one. CJ Stroud, who you and I have been 626 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: pounding our chest on for a few weeks when he 627 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: was fifteen to one, came all the way down to 628 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: plus five fifty when bet now has him at eight 629 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: to one. Desmin Ritter for Cincinnati's ten to one. And 630 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: then I'll mention some running backs. I just I still 631 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: can't see running backs on teams, you know, winning this 632 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: at all. Jean Robinson thirty to one, who he's an animal. 633 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson Junior over for Alabama at fifty to one, 634 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: and I think, really, I don't know if we need 635 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: to comment about any of those, because we need to 636 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: comment about the new guy that just pulled up a 637 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: chair to the table, and his name is Caleb Williams. 638 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: Oklahoma is now a completely different team. Listen, I said 639 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: two weeks ago, we gotta put Caleb Williams in the 640 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: game because he makes safeties and linebackers stay in the 641 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: box and really respect what he does with his legs 642 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 2: which frees him up to throw the ball. He looks 643 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: fabulous from an eyeball standpoint, throwing off his you know, 644 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: the left leg, the right leg on the run, hitting 645 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: guys just on target. When Bett currently doesn't have a 646 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: number on Caleb Williams, but they have the field at 647 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: eight to one, and that's they should just take that 648 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: field off and say this is Caleb Williams. He's at 649 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: eight to one. There was a book that left Kay 650 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: Williams open at fifty to one on Saturday, which I 651 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: was happily dipping into what's the realistic chances? And you're 652 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: gonna have to help me out here because I know 653 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence came in after four games, he didn't win 654 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: the Heisman. You know, I know that there's probably some 655 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: other presidence here, But what is the realistic chances that 656 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: a guy that only has six hundred and nine passing 657 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: yards and nine total tds had just one passing attempts 658 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: Kansas State a handful? You know before that against Western Carolina, 659 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: a guy that's only played two games, was a realistic 660 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: chance this guy has winning the Heisman. 661 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be tough, Colin, because at the 662 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: end of the day, he will have only played in 663 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: basically seven full games. How are you gonna compare seven 664 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: full games of what he's accomplished against thirteen games against 665 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: bry Shun, thirteen games with Matt Krall, you know, c 666 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: J Strad, twelve games games. It's going to be difficult 667 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: for Heis and voters. I know every Oklahoma fan will say, well, 668 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: of course he deserves a very Switzer was tweeting, yes, 669 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 4: he should be considered for the Heisman. Well, of course 670 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: that's their guy. But if you were talking about a 671 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: guy at another school, would you feel that strongly. 672 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 673 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: How I would vote, and I haven't even thought about it. 674 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: I guess when we get to that point, I will 675 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: have to make that decision, as will the other five 676 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: billion people that vote for the Heisman. I don't want 677 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: to say he definitely can't win it, and I don't 678 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: want to say he definitely can win it, because I 679 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: really don't know. We've never really gone through anything like 680 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: this before, which, real quick brings me back to my 681 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: trivia question earlier. Who is the last Heisman Trophy winner 682 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: that did not play every one of his team's games. 683 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: When you ask me that question, it makes me think 684 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: somebody that started the season late and not somebody that 685 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: was hurt, because I was thinking Jason White because it 686 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: just I feel like that guy had some injuries that 687 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 2: kept him. I know he played multiple years, and now 688 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: I think he's selling AC units here in Tulsa. I'm 689 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: probably wrong. 690 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: You probably are wrong. Nineteen ninety three, Charlie Ward, Florida State. 691 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: Really he set out their ninth game of the season 692 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 4: against Maryland. He injured his ribs the week four against 693 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 4: Wake Forest. He came back the following week against Notre Dame. 694 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: So you have to go all the way back to 695 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three the last time a Heisman Trophy winner 696 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 4: did not play every one of his team's games. Actually calling, 697 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 4: there's been five Heisman Trophy winners that did not play 698 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: every one of their team's games, including Vinnie Testaverdi in 699 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 4: eighty six, Charles White nineteen seventy nine, John David Crowe 700 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: in nineteen fifty seven. But all these guys, they had 701 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: injuries during the season where they missed one game. The 702 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 4: only other example that we can compare with Caleb Williams, 703 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: and I don't even think it's a fair comparison. I'm 704 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: sure you remember this. I know I remember it well. 705 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: I was a sophomore in college nineteen forty three. Angelo 706 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: Bertelli played for Notre Dame. He played in the first 707 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 4: six games of the season, led him to an undefeated season, 708 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: but then he didn't play anymore. Why didn't he play anymore? 709 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: He went off to fight in the Marines. Even though 710 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: he only played six games that year, he still won 711 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: the Heisman. So I can give a guy slack for, 712 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: you know, not playing the second half of the season 713 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 4: because you got drafted and went off to the Battle 714 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 4: of Iwo Jima. But the fact that you didn't play 715 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: your first three or four games because your coach didn't 716 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: think you were good enough, that just didn't cut it 717 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 4: for me. But there is precedent not every Heisman Trophy 718 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: winner has played every game. 719 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: Well, sadly, I do not remember the nineteen forty three season, 720 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: but I can understand giving the Heisman to one of 721 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: our proud service members for only playing, you know, not 722 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: all of his games. But I am old enough to 723 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: tell everybody that if you're not, you know, as old 724 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: as me, that nineteen ninety three Notre Dame Florida State 725 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: game may have been one of the best college football 726 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: games I've ever watched in my life. So of course 727 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: i'm a little I love Lou Holtz because you know, 728 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: former Arkansas coach. All right, we'll pick Suey. Let's move 729 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: into the playoff payoff where we won't mention Arkansas the 730 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: college football playoff payoff, playoff. 731 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk about playoff, you kidding me? Playoff? 732 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: All right? So Georgia is now plus one hundred four 733 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: on conclusion that they're gonna be in the playoff, no 734 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: matter if they lose SEC championship to Alabama, who might 735 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: not get there. I'm still still racked on the audio. 736 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: I said that they were going to lose a game 737 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: Oklahoma eight to one, Ohio State ten to one, and 738 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 2: then after that completely drops off Sincy thirty to one, 739 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: Michigan thirty to one, and I agree with these numbers. 740 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: Ole Miss eighty to one. I didn't even know how 741 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: Old Miss gets in Oregon. Two hundred to one is 742 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: a one loss team. Iowa three hundred and one can 743 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: still make it if they went out. The one thing 744 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: that I wanted to mention on here is I did 745 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: lay one hundred dollars on n C State at one 746 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: thousand to one to win the National Championship today. And 747 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: that sounds like a joke and I probably shouldn't be 748 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: podcasting about it. But their remaining schedule Miami, I remember, 749 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: you know, they have the lead in their in their division. 750 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: Their remaining schedule Miami, Louisville, Florida State, Wake, Syracuse, and 751 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: North Carolina. I have NC State favored projected to be 752 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: favorites in every single one of those games. And then 753 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: what do they get after that? A coastal team at 754 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: one thousand to one. I'll roll the dice. I'll easily 755 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: roll the dice with a schedule full of you know, 756 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to win seven games in a row 757 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: where you're favored one thousand to one odds just to 758 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. That's a lot of hedge room. 759 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'll throw that aside. Bread Ncy State 760 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: isn't gonna win the national championship, But from a value perspective, 761 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: a thousand and one at win bed is something that 762 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: you should hit. Do you like any of the teams 763 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: that would be just talked about? That was? 764 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 3: I had two questions. 765 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: One, so you had definitely obviously going to hedge that 766 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: if they got the playoffs. Yeah, okay, so you just 767 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: got to find like five hundred thousand dollars to put 768 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 4: on the other side. And then the other question is 769 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 4: so Alabama plus two twenty five, what is that point 770 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 4: spread wise? 771 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean plus two twenty five equates to a 772 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 2: seven point spread. You know, maybe maybe seven and a half, 773 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: depends on the juice on seven and a half, but 774 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: definitely a seven point spread. 775 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 3: So there's no way Alabama would be a seven point 776 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 3: underdog to Georgia. 777 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: No, I mean right now, I would have it four 778 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: and a half, so you know, so. 779 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wouldn't I wouldn't touch anything. 780 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: Then, yeah, and you have to think they're they're going 781 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: to play each other, right, I mean, if they're both 782 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: going to make the playoff. They're already going to play 783 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: each other, but that may widen the gap. I mean 784 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: that plus two twenty five to win the national title. 785 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: If Alabama loses that game, it's not gonna be plus 786 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: two twenty five in the rematch, It's going to be 787 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: even higher. So it's uh. I don't think there's any 788 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 2: value in taking Georgia. If they lose that game, they're 789 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: going to be a big dog. I don't think Georgia 790 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: is going to be anything more than minus one fifteen 791 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: a rematch against Alabama. Alabama, that number is going to 792 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: get be even better if they have a rematch. So 793 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 2: you know, Oklahoma, we're right back to where we started. 794 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: They were eight to one to start the season. So 795 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: if you didn't get it in August or July, there 796 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: it is again. And as far as Ohio State's concerned, 797 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: they're going to be there. But there's nothing that tells 798 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: me that Carrie Combs in this defense is ready to 799 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: take on some of these big boy names. I think 800 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: Oklahoma States offense would have a field day with as 801 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State defense. So we'll have to see how they 802 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: improve as they go through their schedule. All right, So 803 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: we're going to punt on the playoff payoff this week. 804 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: Go look for your Caleb Williams Heisman tickets. It's a precedent. 805 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: Even Brett, a Heisman voter, doesn't know what he's going 806 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: to do, which means that's opportunity for us to gamble. 807 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 2: Go find the best Kayleb Williams number. This has been 808 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: big bets. On Campus Sources edition Tomorrow afternoon, you can 809 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: hear our red hot group of five experts Mike Ianello 810 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: and Mike Calabres on our G five Deep Dive episode, 811 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: and late late Thursday night, Stucky in Isle return for 812 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: our Week eight betting preview. All right here on the 813 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 2: BBOC podcast. Brett has to get back to literally chasing 814 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: things in his phone is what he's doing right now. 815 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: I have to get back to losing more money on 816 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: betting Hawaii football. So thanks for joining me, Brett, and 817 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: I'll see everybody at the window.