Speaker 1: Cassie willingly subjected herself to Sean Combs because she wanted
Speaker 1: access to the thing. I believe she was as much
Speaker 1: a freak as Puff was, if not more, if not more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anybody who wants to claim that she was purely a
Speaker 1: victim is in denial. If Loom, there's no way. I
Speaker 1: don't care how much grooming. You're not a child, you're.
Speaker 2: A grown woman, and you mix race on top of that,
Speaker 2: so you got a white parrot.
Speaker 1: Feel, there's no way you're doing all of.
Speaker 2: This if you don't want to from a psychologist there,
Speaker 2: not for not for a woman with a white man.
Speaker 2: For what about this Stockholm syndrome thing that people are
Speaker 2: trying to know that's very real.
Speaker 1: I believe that all of that bears some truth in
Speaker 1: this case, but cannot be completely explained by it. The
Speaker 1: problem I'm having, Loom is I'm seeing people go out
Speaker 1: of their way and make excuses for her because she's
Speaker 1: not all black woman. If Cassie wasn't light skin in
Speaker 1: mixed race, do you really think she would be getting
Speaker 1: this type of sympathy from the black community or the
Speaker 1: America at all. No, it's because she was mixed race
Speaker 1: that people are coming to an eight. If this was
Speaker 1: Lizzo in this case, you feel me, she wouldn't get
Speaker 1: half the sympathy. She would be called a gold digger.
Speaker 1: And if you didn't want to be there, you could
Speaker 1: have left. You feel me, Yes, I didn't think about
Speaker 1: black women. Don't get black women that type of support.
Speaker 1: This is only happening because Cassie is mixed race.
Speaker 3: And if you ain't talking, no toler name. Look they
Speaker 3: say this guys, didn't women. I'm going farther than that
Speaker 3: she couet doing on my phone, So I called her mama,
Speaker 3: Come and get your daughter back. They want a little
Speaker 3: better thing. Get them boys, wag or what lil and
Speaker 3: I boish your brain, but get all that they did.
Speaker 3: This guy's a limb. I'm going fall. You can try to,
Speaker 3: but can't kim. I'm Levada. I just bought an in
Speaker 3: a life as I did a side. Come with that auto.
Speaker 2: You lave the reason you broke.
Speaker 3: You know a hoss ain't normal, stressed some red road,
Speaker 3: red eye, he brown. No, I'm looking too the bullets
Speaker 3: as for a bullet because he never felt want to
Speaker 3: stick onto the wilds and nail gun rather Aduale on
Speaker 3: a nail something.
Speaker 2: And every time you go to work long think about that.
Speaker 2: Every time I go to work, I gotta act like
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What my people have been through, because if I showed
Speaker 1: the slightest political integrity or cultural loyalty, I can lose
Speaker 1: my if we go, y'all cookies. This is why Lebron
Speaker 1: James still with Israel against Palestine, but did nothing when
Speaker 1: that brother was shot dozens of times in Akron, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Jalen Walker got hit with almost one hundred bullets by
Speaker 1: the white police, and all Lebron James said is I
Speaker 1: gotta pray. I gotta pray. But when Israel invaded Palistine
Speaker 1: and started uneliving all those people over there, you stood
Speaker 1: with Israel because as a black entertainer, if you want
Speaker 1: to be successful in white space, you have to commit
Speaker 1: historical suicide. Boy cooking the day you got so okay,
Speaker 1: So beagles. See here's the thing, though, real quick, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Now that the white man knows Ryan Clark is not
Speaker 1: only politically conscious, They're not upset about you being politically conscious.
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith is politically conscious, but Ryan Clark is
Speaker 1: loyal as well. The Lord. It's the loyalty. Ryan Clark's
Speaker 1: comments made it clear, I'm a black man.
Speaker 2: Fire, yeah, because the Lord informs your decision making.
Speaker 1: Yes. So now the white man is like damn, he's
Speaker 1: politically conscious like stephen A, but he's more loyal to
Speaker 1: black people. Move on, He'll move on it. So now
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, he's not going to lose his job, but
Speaker 1: once again, there will be certain opportunities he may not
Speaker 1: get now because the power structure knows you staying with
Speaker 1: the negroes in the field, not the ones in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And so also getting back to the community that when
Speaker 2: I went in and they was talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the dirty mouth or just like you said, some of
Speaker 2: the historical over reaches that they use as it pertains
Speaker 2: to black women, it just doesn't feel like trauma driven
Speaker 2: to me because the particular things that they will pointing out,
Speaker 2: meaning because you know me, I like to have a conversation,
Speaker 2: what are you saying?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm highly upsetting you're about to get kicked out
Speaker 2: of here. But before I kick you out, what is
Speaker 2: that like? Why are you talking about bl in this
Speaker 2: way in any instances? Like you say, even if honest,
Speaker 2: that means, even if it's the truth, why is this
Speaker 2: even coming out of your mouth when your black mother
Speaker 2: took care, Because you are proving that you are politically
Speaker 2: harmless to white folks. See, the white woman for the
Speaker 2: black man is the political surrender flag loom. When I
Speaker 2: walk into a space with a white woman, I'm letting
Speaker 2: every white person no, I am not loyal to my community.
Speaker 2: I'm not loyal to my mother. I'm not loyal to
Speaker 2: my father. I'm not loyal to my neighbors, the children
Speaker 2: I went to college with. I am loyal to you.
Speaker 2: The white woman is the black man's nonverbal mouthpiece. By
Speaker 2: having her next to you, you are making a political
Speaker 2: statement to the world that I am loyal to the
Speaker 2: white power structure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I asked, I'm like, yo, what is man?
Speaker 1: I don't like they talk too much, they argue too much.
Speaker 2: I don't listen. Black women love me. I love black women.
Speaker 2: I don't hear no bunch of all. But here's the
Speaker 2: question I would have to any black man who maligns
Speaker 2: and denigrates black women to justify dating white. First of all,
Speaker 2: you were going to date white even if you were
Speaker 2: treated well because your abhorrence for black women is not
Speaker 2: just about how she treated you. Your abhorrence to black
Speaker 2: women is about the fact you always wanted a white one.
Speaker 2: You're just using her as the excuse for why you
Speaker 2: are there. We've all been mistreated before by women, period,
Speaker 2: but I never abandoned them. You understand you wanted white
Speaker 2: women anyway. You're just choosing black women as the excuse.
Speaker 2: And this is how I explain it. Who has mistreated
Speaker 2: the black man more? The black woman or the white man.
Speaker 2: There is no black man in America who can say
Speaker 2: I've been mistreated more by black women than white men.
Speaker 1: You a damn lie.
Speaker 2: Who locked you up, who miseducated, who fired you, who
Speaker 2: won't give you a job. You understand, most of the
Speaker 2: black man's problems in America were caused by the white man,
Speaker 2: not the black woman. Why you don't have the same
Speaker 2: smoke for him. Yeah, and that's why you don't have
Speaker 2: the same smoke for America that you have for the
Speaker 2: black woman. If it's purely about how you've been treated,
Speaker 2: you should be way more angry at white men than
Speaker 2: black women.
Speaker 1: That's the whole fact. It's because you love white people
Speaker 1: and having sex with that white woman is the way
Speaker 1: you try to psychologically prove to yourself that you're equal
Speaker 1: to her white man and escapegoat is look Stephen A
Speaker 1: excuse me, Shannon Sharp and Terrell Owens said, when I
Speaker 1: went to school, black girls called me ugly, Shannon Sharp
Speaker 1: and Terrell.
Speaker 2: Owens, When I was young going through school, black women
Speaker 2: called me ugly. Right, But Shannon Sharp, you let a
Speaker 2: nineteen year old snow buddy put a dog leash around
Speaker 2: your damn neck and walk you around calling you monkeys
Speaker 2: and apes.
Speaker 1: And the N word.
Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me you don't date black
Speaker 2: women because they called you ugly when you was a child,
Speaker 2: But you'll let a white woman dog walk your ass
Speaker 2: button neck it around her bedroom calling you every monkey
Speaker 2: and eight and in word that can be. But it's
Speaker 2: okay when a white woman disrespects me. It's okay for
Speaker 2: the white woman to put a dog collar around my
Speaker 2: neck and call me the N word. It's okay for
Speaker 2: the white woman to put a dog collar around my
Speaker 2: neck and force me to engage and racist sexual play.
Speaker 2: But if a black girl calls me ugly, I'll never
Speaker 2: date one again. But a white woman could dog walk
Speaker 2: me button neck and and call me an ape and
Speaker 2: a gorilla and an N word, And it's perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: You a goddamn hippo. You hate yourself and you hate
Speaker 2: black women. Stop making excuses, right, And sometimes it feels
Speaker 2: like that they don't. They don't hate black They just
Speaker 2: feel like they hate what a black woman had to be.
Speaker 2: A lot of times black women are kicked into survival mode.
Speaker 1: So sometimes that we are responsible for how they are.
Speaker 1: They say, I like the white woman because she's passive,
Speaker 1: she's diciled, she's feminine, she's supportive. She don't she she
Speaker 1: allows me to lead, you know why, because she don't
Speaker 1: need you for anything. Idiot, The white woman needs nothing
Speaker 1: from the black man. Let me say it again. The
Speaker 1: white woman needs nothing from the black man. Let me
Speaker 1: say it one more time. The white woman needs nothing
Speaker 1: from the black man. And when she's tired of you,
Speaker 1: she just accuse you of rape or get a divorce
Speaker 1: and take half your damn back. Shannon Sharp about to
Speaker 1: pay this white girl twenty five thousand dollars per check.
Speaker 1: And she looked like two thirteen, Steve, Nah, look like
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old boy.
Speaker 2: Ye, you're gonna pay her twenty five thousand dollars before
Speaker 2: an ass cheek.
Speaker 1: She don't even have man. She looked like she needed
Speaker 1: to be passing the sod mile. And then they got
Speaker 1: the nerd to be calling black women gold diggers. Well,
Speaker 1: if black women are the gold diggers, loom, show me
Speaker 1: a OnlyFans model, Show me a black OnlyFans model who
Speaker 1: are about to get twenty five thousand dollars a cheek,
Speaker 1: and them sisters got fat ass. It's worse than you.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: You talk about set ups, They got the set up
Speaker 2: and they not getting twenty five granded cheek. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at this white girl, ain't got no black side, and
Speaker 2: you're about to give her twenty five granded cheek.
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't about the body, It wasn't about the
Speaker 1: looks of the craven. It was about the color of
Speaker 1: the flesh. This is about whiteness. I want proximity to whiteness.
Speaker 2: Do you think the close eye am to white people,
Speaker 2: the better I feel about myself? So you think, Shannon Shaw,
Speaker 2: because because I sometimes think that it's the activity, you.
Speaker 1: Don't find it odd that the brothers who go the
Speaker 1: most for the white girls tend to be the darker brothers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely find it. And I'm saying this as a
Speaker 1: dark skinned brother. Look at him. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: You get light skinned brothers and mixed race brothers. They
Speaker 2: got a white mother, we understand not acceptable, but we understand.
Speaker 2: You get light skinned brothers who only day white. But
Speaker 2: in my experience, my dark skin brothers, they go crazy
Speaker 2: over snow bunny vagina.
Speaker 1: They go crazy over snow bunny vaginactiv Look at RG three.
Speaker 2: You just got a divorce and went and wifed up
Speaker 2: another bunny.
Speaker 1: Self hatred brother. There's a book France for nine. No.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard of him. He was
Speaker 1: from Martinique. He's one of our greatest black revolutionaries. They
Speaker 1: murdered him not too long after they murdered doctor King.
Speaker 1: They had to get him out the way because he
Speaker 1: was serious. He was a psychiatrist. He wrote a book
Speaker 1: called Black Skin White Mass. Every snow bunny Hopper needs
Speaker 1: to read black Skinned White Mass and guess what he
Speaker 1: had a snow bunny. But he told the truth. He
Speaker 1: told the truth.
Speaker 2: He talked about how black men who date white women
Speaker 2: have an aspect of self hate and by dating her
Speaker 2: you're trying to baptize yourself into equality with the Caucasian men.
Speaker 1: Wow. And that's why I don't trust black men who
Speaker 1: date white women. Never. Never. Wow. You go home to
Speaker 1: my enemy and you don't think I know you telling
Speaker 1: how what we just talked about, because you got to remember,
Speaker 1: the black man knows. He's always at the mercy of her.
Speaker 1: He always look at Look look at Gabriella. I sue
Speaker 1: Ninja's she's a twenty one year old only fans. It
Speaker 1: don't matter. I got the whole US government on my side.
Speaker 1: I got the whole US government on my side. Look
Speaker 1: at his white girl. She talking about something. He sexually
Speaker 1: abused me. And I don't trivialize sex assault, right because
Speaker 1: black women are assaulted than anybody else. Right. But if
Speaker 1: he's sexually assld as you once, you let him back
Speaker 1: in again because he brought Christmas gifts and birthday gifts.
Speaker 1: Oh snow, Bunny was sexually assaulted by a black incredible hawk,
Speaker 1: and he showed up a few weeks later with Christmas
Speaker 1: gifts and birthday gifts. You win, and you let him
Speaker 1: back in to do it again. But here's the biggest peace.
Speaker 1: You never called the cops now with Sharon and Sharp. Right,
Speaker 1: there was another woman came out accusing him of abuse
Speaker 1: that happened but ten years ago. Right, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's guilty of either one. You know why, because there's
Speaker 1: not a white woman in America, Loom who you sexually
Speaker 1: a soul who ain't getting your ass locked up? Think
Speaker 1: about that, brother, do you realize the biggest social crime
Speaker 1: in American history historically until nineteen sixty seven outlawed the
Speaker 1: band on interracial marriage, the biggest social crime in America
Speaker 1: was a black man with a white woman. They hung
Speaker 1: us from trees, off the accusation. They hung us from trees,
Speaker 1: even if it was consensual on the white woman's part.
Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me you're a white woman
Speaker 1: who got said by a black male celebrity, and you
Speaker 1: never called the police, Shannon Sharp, You never called the police.
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, give me a damn.
Speaker 2: What do you say to people who say believe victims,
Speaker 2: believe the people who say that they've been assaulted because
Speaker 2: there's a large precidity.
Speaker 1: I believe victims, but I'm not believing no privileged white
Speaker 1: girl who don't get a black man arrested because black
Speaker 1: men are presumed guilty until proven innocent. Now if these
Speaker 1: women were black loomed, Now we got a grey area.
Speaker 1: I know why black women don't tell because they don't
Speaker 1: get white women privilege. Black women are assumed to be sexy, promiscuous.
Speaker 1: Black women are assumed cooking to be jez Abelle. Black
Speaker 1: women are assumed to be manipulateds of men. This is
Speaker 1: why black women don't call the police. This is why
Speaker 1: black women don't do rape kits. This is why black
Speaker 1: women don't sue celebrities. They not gonna get no damn money.
Speaker 1: If a black woman sue Shannon Sharp, she not getting
Speaker 1: no damn money. He'll fight it to the end. He'll
Speaker 1: fight it to the end. But I will volunteerly. Because
Speaker 1: he volunteered, ten me volunteered, and she only wanted twenty
Speaker 1: five granded cheek. It went from twenty five granded cheek
Speaker 1: to twenty five million in cheek. And y'all calling my
Speaker 1: sister's gold diggers. Y'all calling my sister's gold diggis RG three?
Speaker 1: What's your child support? I know his ex wife tried
Speaker 1: to get thirty six thousand a month. I don't know
Speaker 1: if she got it. RG three, what's your child support?
Speaker 1: And you got these tiger woods? Ex wife got a
Speaker 1: hundred million? What black woman you know got a hundred million?
Speaker 1: Right when Robert de Niro divorced his black wife. Did
Speaker 1: you see what the judge told Robert de niro X
Speaker 1: We're going to give you a million dollars a year
Speaker 1: as long as you stay single. Did you hear that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to get half the bag?
Speaker 2: He's supposed to get half the loon They didn't give nothing.
Speaker 2: They said, you're going.
Speaker 1: To get a million a year until you get married,
Speaker 1: and if you ever remarry, you don't get enough a dime. Man,
Speaker 1: We are not winning in this snow bunny hunt. We
Speaker 1: are losing, and we can't see it because we hate
Speaker 1: ourselves so much and love white people so much. We
Speaker 1: don't even recognize me being played. In fact, Loon I
Speaker 1: would say, we need to open up a business, brother,
Speaker 1: We need to start a snow bunny leasing agency. Start
Speaker 1: leasing them out, because all you doing is leasing them.
Speaker 1: Shannon Shot was leasing up. He was leasing out, but
Speaker 1: they didn't give him the bill till it was over.
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby was leasing them white girls.
Speaker 2: RGD was leasing that first wife This ain't no relationship.
Speaker 1: This is business for money, pleasure for money. And when
Speaker 1: I'm done being leased, just like with at least, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna turn your ass in and you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pay the.
Speaker 2: Extra fees, all the extra mile. This ain't nothing but
Speaker 2: a damn snow bunny. LEAs and crist they leasten. Somebody
Speaker 2: need to start a snow bunny leasing agency. You want
Speaker 2: a white girl, how long you want to for me?
Speaker 2: And um, and I'm gonna tell you something else. And
Speaker 2: this is funny, but I believe it's gonna happen sooner
Speaker 2: or later.
Speaker 1: I believe it. If you black brother, going and get
Speaker 1: him some paper time, if you don't mind, if you're black,
Speaker 1: I'm good. You're looking. If you black and you in
Speaker 1: the insurance company, this is for all my black insurance
Speaker 1: brokers right now. Somebody need to come up with an
Speaker 1: insurance policy loom for interracial dating. There needs to be
Speaker 1: an insurance policy for black men who date bunnies, not
Speaker 1: just snow bunnies, the rice bunnies, the sand bunnies, the
Speaker 1: souths of bunnies, all of them. Because, as you can see,
Speaker 1: when you are rich and you are black and you
Speaker 1: are dating outside your race, there is an increased likelihood
Speaker 1: that you are going to be financially compromised by the
Speaker 1: end this relationship. This should be snow bunny insurance. If
Speaker 1: I was an insurance broker, I would create a snow
Speaker 1: bunny insurance policy for these black men. I would charge
Speaker 1: their asses up. What do you think Shannon sharp fate
Speaker 1: is gonna be? As I said earlier, financially he's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine because he's in a podcast world. What is
Speaker 1: ESPN gonna do? On the one hand, he's very popular. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think they keep him, but I think what they were,
Speaker 1: what they had in store for him, he ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get that, right they going to I think he stays
Speaker 1: with ESPN because he brings the views you feel me,
Speaker 1: But I think that they were looking at him for
Speaker 1: other things that he's no longer going to get them. Hey,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Major's right, Jonathan Majors is still acting. But this
Speaker 1: certain roles that they were going to put that brother in,
Speaker 1: he will never be considered forever again because in the
Speaker 1: white world, to just be accused of sex assault with
Speaker 1: a snow bunny is to be convicted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely over for that, they don't play the
Speaker 2: same type of like you said, you have no you
Speaker 2: have no benefit of a doubt.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know another reason
Speaker 1: why white folks don't have any mercy for snow Bunny
Speaker 1: oppers because they know, you know what they didn't put
Speaker 1: us through. Even though I don't like black people as
Speaker 1: a white person, even though they don't like you, Loom,
Speaker 1: sometimes they gotta respect the fact that you're standing on
Speaker 1: your square. White people can't stand me, but every once
Speaker 1: in a while one of them will pulled me to
Speaker 1: the side and they'll say, I don't agree with you
Speaker 1: on many things, but I gotta respect the fact you
Speaker 1: one of the only ones I see that go hard
Speaker 1: for your people. And you ain't no x con doing this.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. You're a brother with all
Speaker 1: the credentials I got, yes, and you're doing this for you.
Speaker 1: They gotta respect you because you, like I'm not folding.
Speaker 1: So when you see a multi millionaire black man who
Speaker 1: publicly tells the world I don't date black women and
Speaker 1: then they get snow Buddy, how the hell you're gonna
Speaker 1: feel any sympathy for them? Crazy? And that's why when
Speaker 1: I see the sisters saying, well, I don't care, let
Speaker 1: them destroy them. I understand where the sistance is coming from,
Speaker 1: but I don't go that far. See the reason I
Speaker 1: got to stand with Shannon Sharp, even though he's a
Speaker 1: bunny hopper, is because I have to look at the
Speaker 1: greater issue here. In the greater issue here, we can't
Speaker 1: make it easy for white women to fabricate charges against
Speaker 1: black men because the day will be Shanning Sharp tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it'll be you. You see what I'm saying, So I
Speaker 1: gotta take it seriously because I know how this goes.
Speaker 1: People say, why you defending Puffy. I'm not defending Puffy.
Speaker 1: If Puffy's sexually trafficked people, Puffy should go to jail.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I ain't see no evidence of it.
Speaker 1: I ain't see no evidence of it. And this whole
Speaker 1: trial so far has been nothing but a narrative about
Speaker 1: freak golfs. I ain't see no RICO evidence.
Speaker 2: I ain't seen on interstate prostitution evidence, and I ain't
Speaker 2: seen on interstate sex trafficking evidence.
Speaker 1: That's what the FED indictment is on.
Speaker 2: The FED indictment is not about kicking Cassie in the hallway,
Speaker 2: although that was wrong and he should have never done it.
Speaker 1: This case has nothing to do with Cassie, but she's
Speaker 1: the star witness.
Speaker 2: How in the hell is the star witness somebody who
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the case.
Speaker 1: Your deeptailing, freak off, your deeptailing who was here? Which
Speaker 1: has me thinking, Loan, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: so much about puff as it is about exposing his
Speaker 1: inner circle. Meaning all y'all doing is exposing who was involved.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I ain't seeing no evidence
Speaker 1: in no crime. But so freak off is not illegal.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be a freak in America. Most of
Speaker 1: them celebrities are Look what you have Finna did. This
Speaker 1: is what they do in them secret societies. Show me
Speaker 1: evidence of a crime. Every day in court has been
Speaker 1: a narrative on a freak off session that's not against
Speaker 1: the law. Show me evidence of federal crime.
Speaker 2: There's something to be said about these black men's sexual appetite, though,
Speaker 2: and it's leading to disaster when we talk about possession,
Speaker 2: demonic possession happening, like even with Shannon. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: wondering how much of it is him craving this experience that.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in Shan. First of all, I'm disappointed in
Speaker 1: any black man who will let a white woman allegedly
Speaker 1: call you out your name for the purposes of sexual pleasure.
Speaker 1: Do you know what she must think about you as
Speaker 1: a human being? Think about that for a minute long.
Speaker 1: You're letting me do this to you, after what you
Speaker 1: Any black man who engages in racial sex play with
Speaker 1: a woman of any other race is letting that woman
Speaker 1: know I have no self respect at all. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to date them, it's one thing to marry them.
Speaker 1: It's something else to give them a But no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you treat me like a slave in your
Speaker 1: bedroom and call me out of my name? Is this
Speaker 1: for the purposes of sexual demonic possession? Is it akin to?
Speaker 2: Also in sexual relationships, you'll have women who might not
Speaker 2: necessarily let you call them a bitch. But excuse my language,
Speaker 2: but when you are in the bedroom, you may can
Speaker 2: get the bitch off, that's my bitch, or you know,
Speaker 2: little things like that.
Speaker 1: What do you say? But if you're saying that's you
Speaker 1: with your queen righty thing? Else we're talking about two
Speaker 1: different race groups, where one is a member of a
Speaker 1: group that has historically systemically and extensively exploited in the
Speaker 1: humanized the other. Do you understand, So this is't just imagin.
Speaker 2: Are invoking the historical pain of your ancestors. You are
Speaker 2: invoking the historical pain of your ancestors loom for the
Speaker 2: benefit of a white woman's sexual pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, brother, that's a little yeah, that's that
Speaker 1: is deep sin. And I believe that a lot of
Speaker 1: these black male celebrities, and a lot of black men
Speaker 1: in general are under demonic possession, brother, because one of
Speaker 1: the best ways that the forces of evil invade your
Speaker 1: space and in your life is through sex. Because when
Speaker 1: you're having sex, the shield that all God is down,
Speaker 1: the shield that generally protects your soul, it's down. That
Speaker 1: deal is torn off. So whatever you are doing in
Speaker 1: the bedroom is going to have a converbative effect on
Speaker 1: the way you think feeling behaved. And so when I
Speaker 1: listen to what they say Puffy was doing and urinating
Speaker 1: and Cassie, why are you doing all this? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I believe in Seawan Comb's and
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm standing with him until proven guilty.
Speaker 1: But I believe in the case of Seawan Combs, when
Speaker 1: I listen to the sex acts that took place at
Speaker 1: these freak offs for him, for Cassie, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Shannon Sharp with the sex play right slave plantation play.
Speaker 1: These men experienced deep, profound emotional wounds as children. Puffy's
Speaker 1: sex addiction, Cassie's sex addiction, Shannon Sharp's slave plantation role
Speaker 1: play addiction. These are addictions that developed because they use
Speaker 1: sex as their outlet to deal with their unaddressed psychological wounds.
Speaker 1: Do you feel me if I was able to get
Speaker 1: Puffy on that couch alone for two hours, me and Puff,
Speaker 1: I promise you I could find out what the real
Speaker 1: problem is that you're trying to drown out with your
Speaker 1: sex off, with your freak offs. The Freakoffs loom are
Speaker 1: an escape from reality. Shannon Sharp sexual role play with
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Issu Ninja's that's a escape from your psychological pain.
Speaker 1: Anytime you see people engaging in extreme, repeated sexual behavior,
Speaker 1: this is a drug, This is a sedative.
Speaker 2: This is my estate. Absolutely, Puffy and what are you
Speaker 2: running from, Cassie? What are you running from? Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 2: what are you running from? I personally believe with my
Speaker 2: brother Shannon Shark. No disrespect to him because I think
Speaker 2: he's a good guy. I think Shannon is fundamentally a
Speaker 2: good guy. I don't get bad energy from him. He
Speaker 2: hate himself though.
Speaker 1: Shannon needs some deep seated racial healing therapy, bro, because
Speaker 1: you already said the black girls called you ugly, and
Speaker 1: then you turn around and let the white girl treat
Speaker 1: you like a ninja. Goodness, low self esteem. Money can't
Speaker 1: fix that. Yeah, nah, for sure.
Speaker 2: When we're dealing with Diddy, in particular, for people who
Speaker 2: are unaware, you have to be living under rock.
Speaker 1: Diddy is on trial for a RICO and several other
Speaker 1: charges in the state sex trafficking, interstate prostitution in the States,
Speaker 1: the Man Act in particular. Yeah, I know about that
Speaker 1: because they created that Jack Johnson. They created for Jack
Speaker 1: Johnson because he openly paraded around white women. Right, this
Speaker 1: is in the nineteen twenties, this is Garvey time. You
Speaker 1: ain't even have no civil rights. And this black guy,
Speaker 1: and by the way, I think they killed him. Remember
Speaker 1: he died in a car accident, tragic car accident. I
Speaker 1: think they cut his break line back then, I think
Speaker 1: like that. I think Jack Johnson was murdered, but he
Speaker 1: prayed around with these white women. So the fans came
Speaker 1: up with the Man Act, which was also called the
Speaker 1: White Slaves White Slavers Sex Trafficking Act. If you take
Speaker 1: a woman across state lines right to have sex, that
Speaker 1: could be considered interstate prostitution. That let me tell you
Speaker 1: how they change in the game with puff. This is
Speaker 1: important for every black man in America. You mean because
Speaker 1: we know women across state lines? Do we not pay
Speaker 1: attention to this puff trial? Because what I think they're
Speaker 1: trying to do with the Man Act now is I
Speaker 1: think they are trying to create a new precedent in law.
Speaker 1: Yes we're diddyes, but it's gonna affect us all where
Speaker 1: if a woman flies in to see you, lou.
Speaker 2: This is lady friend, ain't paying for no seconds and
Speaker 2: we're getting to know what y'all, this is regular romance.
Speaker 1: If she crossed state lines, you can be charged with
Speaker 1: the Man Act. Do you know how many black men
Speaker 1: would go to jail because they're not gonna use it
Speaker 1: on white men. They're not gonna use it on yellow man.
Speaker 2: And it's about when the law has always been selectively applied.
Speaker 2: To imagine how many black men could be brought up
Speaker 2: on charges if a woman ever flew in from another.
Speaker 1: State to spend time every day everybody. But they're trying
Speaker 1: to set it up, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And they have to say precedent with Diddy, So if
Speaker 2: they can blur the lines and guess what else they
Speaker 2: got to say to your point with the president, we
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Speaker 2: when the law has always been selectively applied. To imagine
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Speaker 2: if a woman ever flew in from another.
Speaker 1: State to spend time every day everybody, But they trying
Speaker 1: to set it.
Speaker 2: Up, That's what I'm saying. And they have to say
Speaker 2: precedent with Diddy, so if they can blur the lines.
Speaker 1: And guess what else they got to say to your
Speaker 1: point with the president, we need black people to co
Speaker 1: sign it, right, Listen to all the black women who's
Speaker 1: saying he needs to suffer Black men, who's saying he
Speaker 1: needs to suffer If you let them convict Puff on
Speaker 1: the Man Act with no evidence of forced sex trafficking
Speaker 1: or activity, where you basically say, convict him just because
Speaker 1: somebody crossed state lines to have a freak off, all
Speaker 1: of us can end up with federal charges. What do
Speaker 1: you say to Cassie's testimony?
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on how Cassie has handled herself some
Speaker 2: of the allegations she's made.
Speaker 1: Did she I believe to you?
Speaker 2: Or how do you feel about I didn't watch, but
Speaker 2: I read the report. I can't watch right.
Speaker 1: I believe she was as much a freak as Puff was,
Speaker 1: if not more. If not more, anybody who wants to
Speaker 1: claim that she was purely a victim is in denial.
Speaker 1: If Loom, there's no way. I don't care how much grooming.
Speaker 1: You're not a child, you're a grown woman. And you
Speaker 1: mix race on top of that, so you got a
Speaker 1: white parent, There's no way you're doing all of this
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do.
Speaker 2: You think that from a psychologists standpoint, not for a
Speaker 2: woman with a white parent. What about this Stockholm syndrome
Speaker 2: thing that people are trying to.
Speaker 1: Know that's very real. I believe that all of that
Speaker 1: bears some truth in this case, but cannot be completely
Speaker 1: explained by it. Here's the problem I had with the
Speaker 1: cast see the supporters right, and I empathize with the
Speaker 1: sister as well because Puffy did take advantage of her.
Speaker 1: The problem I'm having, Loan is I'm seeing people go
Speaker 1: out of their way and make excuses for her because
Speaker 1: she's not an all black woman. If Cassie wasn't light
Speaker 1: skin and mixed race, do you really think she would
Speaker 1: be getting this type of sympathy from the Black community
Speaker 1: or the America at all. No, it's because she was
Speaker 1: mixed race that people are coming to an eight. If
Speaker 1: this was Lizzo in this case, you feel me, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't get half the sympathy. She would be called a
Speaker 1: gold digger. And if you didn't want to be there,
Speaker 1: you could have left. You feel me, Yes, I didn't
Speaker 1: think about that. Black women don't get Black women that
Speaker 1: type of support. This is only happening because Cassie is
Speaker 1: mixed race. Yes, and there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are so.
Speaker 2: From a psychology standpoint, can you explain even what Stockholm
Speaker 2: syndrome means to the people.
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome is when someone grooms you dominates, destroys you
Speaker 1: to the point where they eliminate any imagination or memory
Speaker 1: of you being independent or wanting independence. You start to
Speaker 1: depend on them, You start to rely on them. They
Speaker 1: become your world, and you start to believe that you
Speaker 1: cannot exist without them, despite the fact that they are
Speaker 1: punishing you, manipulating you, and putting your life in danger.
Speaker 1: Our enslavement in America, post traumatic slavery disease is a
Speaker 1: form of Stockholm syndrome. It's the most pronounced form, but
Speaker 1: it's a form of Stockholm syndrome, so it's basically brainwash.
Speaker 1: Cut you off from the world what any domestically abusive
Speaker 1: man does. I'm a cutter off from her family. I'm
Speaker 1: a cutter off from her friends. I'm a cut off
Speaker 1: from a church, her social network, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: remake her world because the brain is what the victim
Speaker 1: of repetition. I don't care how intelligence you are. The
Speaker 1: brain is not conditioned on intelligence, Loan. This is why
Speaker 1: you say why some of our greatest black scholars had
Speaker 1: white wives. I'm talking about African centered scholars. Shake into joke.
Speaker 1: The black man who proved that the mummies in Egypt
Speaker 1: was black had a white wife. You know why, because
Speaker 1: intellectual knowledge is one thing. Deep seated unconscious conditioning is
Speaker 1: something else. Stockholm syndrome is deep seated unconscious conditioning. What
Speaker 1: did Adolf Hitler say? Adolf Hitler said, And I'm no
Speaker 1: fan of Hitler because he not only killed Jews, he
Speaker 1: killed Africans too. And I got an issue with the
Speaker 1: European Jews who never highlight the Africans who were murdered
Speaker 1: with them in the concentration camps, and don't even highlight
Speaker 1: the Africans who delivered them from the concentration camps. It
Speaker 1: was black soldiers in World War two loom, they had
Speaker 1: the yes, yes, and you don't see them honored in
Speaker 1: no Holocaust museum. And they never talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that they participated in our slavery. Who ensured the slave ships,
Speaker 1: who built the ships, who put the insurance, It was
Speaker 1: them European Jews, and nobody ever talks about that. So
Speaker 1: you want the world to hurt for you, no problem,
Speaker 1: But what about the hurt you caused us? But getting
Speaker 1: back to this point brainwash, Adolf Hitler said, if you
Speaker 1: want to control people, it's not difficult. He said, come
Speaker 1: up with a lie, make the lie big loan, the
Speaker 1: lie gotta be supreme, and just keep telling it over
Speaker 1: and over again. The human mind cannot regnore ignore what
Speaker 1: it is constantly told to believe, even if it's not true.
Speaker 1: And who was Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels a psychologist?
Speaker 2: Do you see Stockholm syndrome in Cassie's explanation of events?
Speaker 1: I see some of it, but I do think she's
Speaker 1: exploiting a lot of it. So that's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Cassie willingly subjected herself to Sean Combs
Speaker 1: because she wanted access to the fame exactly. There is
Speaker 1: no getting around it was their manipulation. Yes, I'll even
Speaker 1: give you a fifty to fifty split if you want loan.
Speaker 1: But anybody who tries to tell me, doctor Umar Cassie's
Speaker 1: experience with Sean Puffy combs was one hundred percent outside
Speaker 1: of her realm of control and exclusively due to his
Speaker 1: manipulation and brainwash. Hell no, you get no vote from
Speaker 1: me because you get no vote from him.
Speaker 2: I always say to myself, because even now, like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm in the day marketing, you meet women.
Speaker 1: You say, all right, I gotta be careful, Like you say, oh.
Speaker 2: You better be careful now, Yeah, it's very careful. It
Speaker 2: is open season on black men. Notice you don't see
Speaker 2: the same thing with white men. You get you a
Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein every once in a while, but you don't
Speaker 2: see nothing like this, right because it's not alone and
Speaker 2: you're not going Even if you see a Harvey Weinstein,
Speaker 2: you won't even see the parent, nor.
Speaker 1: You're following that we have seeing Diddy going through that.
Speaker 1: He understand right now. He might go on right, well,
Speaker 1: right now if you're a black man, because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this and I'm political, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you almost gotta have an NDA anytime you go on
Speaker 1: a date. You follow what I'm saying, So bad man,
Speaker 1: you cannot get into any kind of an argument because
Speaker 1: she can very easily lie and either say she felt
Speaker 1: threatened or she can just say you put hands on her.
Speaker 1: Look what Lil Wayne's situation, right, And of course he
Speaker 1: was buddy hopping right, had no business doing that coolish behavior.
Speaker 1: But she said he put her out, and then she
Speaker 1: also accused him of putting hands on her and asked
Speaker 1: for a lawyer. Right, listen, no evidence for black men.
Speaker 1: You don't need evidence. All you have to do is
Speaker 1: make the accusation. So you got to be careful now
Speaker 1: because it is popular now to destroy black men on
Speaker 1: false allegations of sex abuse. However, I still don't see
Speaker 1: black women getting away with it the way white women are.
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. They have a privilege our
Speaker 1: sisters do not have. Lil Wayne, he was bunny hopping.
Speaker 1: He might got to pay up. All these black men
Speaker 1: dating outside the race. They gotta start rethinking in that
Speaker 1: long right. And here's another thing, right, So it's like.
Speaker 2: You sit back and you say these because women know
Speaker 2: we're attractive, successful men with them.
Speaker 1: And so they have. Women are drawing the power any woman,
Speaker 1: and that's natural and so, but you have to make
Speaker 1: sure she don't want you just for the power. Right.
Speaker 2: But when they come in, because listening to Ditty, I
Speaker 2: can only imagine Diddy sitting there like and Cassie's on
Speaker 2: standing and it's like, this is the girl who was
Speaker 2: telling me to come freak on on. She was telling
Speaker 2: me to come peeing on my and then flipped it
Speaker 2: and then flipped it. So it's like at what point?
Speaker 2: And then she's up there saying I lost all autonomy.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. I was just
Speaker 2: moving on his behalf.
Speaker 1: But at one point, is it cohersion? And then or
Speaker 1: versus you lied about what you're into. Yes, that has
Speaker 1: to be a line. It's a very fine line.
Speaker 2: But you misrepresent what you're into to get next to
Speaker 2: me and then say I progress true that.
Speaker 1: But here's the overall message. Here's the overall message, Loan,
Speaker 1: as black men, we need to in order to survive America.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be sexually disciplined. You follow what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There is no more one night stance. Now,
Speaker 1: if you got something to lose, I'm saying, there is
Speaker 1: no one night stance. There is no way, Bam. Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Anytime you allow a woman into your personal space, you
Speaker 1: have just empowered her to disgrace your name and destroy
Speaker 1: true or false. You understand, you see that. That's where
Speaker 1: we are. But I'm gonna look at it from a
Speaker 1: positive thing. Not that this is good, but what it
Speaker 1: says to me is you were not sent here by
Speaker 1: the most high to exploit the vaginas of women. Black
Speaker 1: woman's vagina is a sacred space. That is the canal
Speaker 1: from which God sends new life. You are to protect it,
Speaker 1: you are to honor it, you are to reverence it,
Speaker 1: and you must respect it. The message in this Sean
Speaker 1: Combs thing, the message in all of this, Shannon Sharp,
Speaker 1: get your sex life in alignment with your spiritual life,
Speaker 1: and get your spiritual life in alignment with the Almighty. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you're being brought down illegally, falsely, and unjustifiably. That's part true.
Speaker 1: But now let's look at divine justice. Shannon Sharp is
Speaker 1: innocent of criminal justice. I believe Puffy Combs is innocent
Speaker 1: of criminal justice. I think they're both guilty of divine justice.
Speaker 1: You are not supposed to be sexually exploiting women for
Speaker 1: your personal pleasure. Get your life in order. That's what
Speaker 1: is telling me.
Speaker 2: Fact, you cannot use the black woman as a plaything.
Speaker 2: Not only that, you're not supposed to use any woman
Speaker 2: as a plaything. This is a message from our ancestors
Speaker 2: saying we're not happy with the way y'all been treating
Speaker 2: our daughters.
Speaker 1: Do them right, or leave them the hell alone.
Speaker 2: That is a powerful, profound point that to me makes
Speaker 2: so much sense. Yes, so you say, man, like you,
Speaker 2: Like you said, the universe is still speaking. The universe
Speaker 2: is still speaking, like Yo, Man. The universe and an
Speaker 2: African culture we have a singing.
Speaker 1: I embrace the positive and negative aspects of everything I
Speaker 1: experience in life because the good and the bad collaborate
Speaker 1: in helping me achieve my destinies. So in African culture,
Speaker 1: we believe you go through good and through bad. You
Speaker 1: can't have one without the other because it's the only
Speaker 1: way we birth your destiny.
Speaker 2: So even though they're criminally innocent, both men are spiritually
Speaker 2: guilty and that then you gotta pay for that.
Speaker 1: You gotta pay for now. Karma ain't nothing to play
Speaker 1: with man with Diddy's trial.
Speaker 2: So, in your opinion, they are not proving the allegations
Speaker 2: of the charges presented.
Speaker 1: Not yet. Now. Some people are saying that the prosecution
Speaker 1: is slow walking this thing. Some people are saying that
Speaker 1: the prosecution is starting out with Cassie and the freak
Speaker 1: offs to disparage his character. First established that that he's
Speaker 1: a creep, and then we're going to hit him with
Speaker 1: the evidence of Rico and interstates. So what a prostitution
Speaker 1: about Rico?
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying it's all blurry man because
Speaker 2: it's his assistant. He's using his bodyguards.
Speaker 1: This is what rich men do. That's what Richmond gonna
Speaker 1: move around with. I'm gonna tell you, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something. I don't think Puff used his organization
Speaker 1: as much as they would have liked him to do.
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. From what I'm seeing, it
Speaker 1: was him, yes, and his freak off mates. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He wasn't using the secretary, and you
Speaker 1: follow what it was a select team, which I think
Speaker 1: is going to sav ing. He didn't use the whole
Speaker 1: bad boy to do this because a lot of this
Speaker 1: happened off bad boy time. Let's go back. The reason
Speaker 1: why they're having such a start a hard time proving
Speaker 1: his case is he got locked up on frivolous reasons
Speaker 1: in the first place. Puffy is going through this because
Speaker 1: he sued theag YO. Puffy sued and started his own
Speaker 1: political party, and they needed to make sure that he
Speaker 1: couldn't influence the twenty twenty four election, and so he
Speaker 1: had to be in jail. Puffy had to be taken
Speaker 1: off the streets during election season because he started that
Speaker 1: Black Party, and either Democrats or Republicans knew where he
Speaker 1: stood and they couldn't afford to let him influence the outcome,
Speaker 1: and they had to pay him back for suing diag Yo,
Speaker 1: So he wasn't locked up for this anyway. These charges
Speaker 1: were fabricated to make the case stick. What about Kid
Speaker 1: Cutting testifying? What did he say?
Speaker 2: He said he had testified to Diddy blowing his car up.
Speaker 2: He said he came home one day and his dog
Speaker 2: was in the bathroom. Some kind of way Diddy got
Speaker 2: in his house, locked his dog in the bathroom. According
Speaker 2: a kid Cutting fed him some kind of additive that
Speaker 2: killed this dog later, not then, but he got gradually, yeah,
Speaker 2: gradually killed his dog and moved the cameras around, and
Speaker 2: there was this big back and forth with him and Cassie.
Speaker 2: But my thing is, on one end they paint Diddy,
Speaker 2: and of course we don't defend Diddy, we're dealing with
Speaker 2: the information. Yes, one end, they say Diddy's this violent
Speaker 2: guy who's willing to kill about Cassie and kill everything
Speaker 2: about you know, harboring whatever is going on.
Speaker 1: And then on the other end, she runs off with
Speaker 1: kid Cutty and the car blows up allegedly, according to them,
Speaker 1: and he does that.
Speaker 2: So what they're basically saying is Kid Cutty said he
Speaker 2: asked Diddy about his car. He said he wanted to
Speaker 2: wait till he got in his face, and he said
Speaker 2: Diddy was standing there like a blade or something, a
Speaker 2: black super villain. He said this in court, said when
Speaker 2: he got up on him and he shook his hand
Speaker 2: and said, man, what about my car? And Diddy said,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, playboy, And that
Speaker 2: was the end of the interaction. But basically, Kid Cutting
Speaker 2: and Diddy had a checkered pass due to his involvement
Speaker 2: with Cassie. But Kid Cutting, in his words, was scared
Speaker 2: of Diddy. Diddy had him terrified and would hurt people.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people were just understandable. But how
Speaker 1: do you prove it was Diddy? It was here saved.
Speaker 2: I didn't even understand how it was allowed on the
Speaker 2: stand when it was all here saved because they don't
Speaker 2: have nothing. They don't have nothing.
Speaker 1: Let they let him get up there and basically say,
Speaker 1: I was told that did he blew the car? No
Speaker 1: one was charged, No one knew, and it's on a trial.
Speaker 1: Police investigation on a federal I don't think they have nothing, brother,
Speaker 1: I don't think they have nothing. I believe that this
Speaker 1: was punishment. And what do they do is they like
Speaker 1: to exhaust your wealth. They know how much you make,
Speaker 1: because we ain't got no black banks, right, they exhaust
Speaker 1: your wealth or not many black banks. They exhaust your
Speaker 1: wealth enough to break you.
Speaker 2: Do you think that they they're coming for a fortune,
Speaker 2: of course, and that's why they want to tie in
Speaker 2: the bad boys ship and the like you did.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much his lawyers are making. They knocking
Speaker 1: dust from him? Do you feel me? And what percentage
Speaker 1: of his estate is being drained by this case? You
Speaker 1: see them? Don't get me wrong. You know what I
Speaker 1: think they want to do. They want to liquidate his
Speaker 1: assets to the point where they have to force them
Speaker 1: to sell his masters and it's publishing. Do you think
Speaker 1: they're going to try to come get it? Because if
Speaker 1: they alleged that you.
Speaker 2: That you're masters and your publisher us with it earned
Speaker 2: as part of Eureco, which means they automatically fall, we
Speaker 2: can sell them at auction to it. This is what
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to do, because it feels like
Speaker 2: you're tying in the organization.
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, what is that when he would force
Speaker 2: him forfeit his master's bad boy.
Speaker 1: He's the liquor company everything.
Speaker 2: And so even if we get two years out of him,
Speaker 2: three years, we see him get to get all of
Speaker 2: that with the No matter.
Speaker 1: How much time that you know what I'm saying, we
Speaker 1: could give him a day because if we able to
Speaker 1: take his assets, we win, we win. He can go home. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You see what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: time already served. That's what I'm saying. But even with
Speaker 1: that loom, that's dangerous for other black men. Yes, you
Speaker 1: feel all we have to do. And this is why
Speaker 1: black people need to stop trying to throw Puffy under
Speaker 1: the bus. This is not about Puffy, It's about us.
Speaker 1: What do we know about this plantation When they whipped
Speaker 1: the slave in front of the others, It was never
Speaker 1: about ling slave. It's about the rest of y'all. If
Speaker 1: you let them convict puff on Rico with the scantiest
Speaker 1: of evidence and allowed them to take this man hold
Speaker 1: of State publishing and masters, they can do that.
Speaker 2: To anybody they filled. I'm almost certain they're coming for that.
Speaker 2: I'm almost I'm almost certain.
Speaker 1: It makes sense because look at why they killed Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson because he wouldn't give up the publishing the Masters,
Speaker 1: the Beatles and Elvis. He did would and he was
Speaker 1: trying to buy more of yeh. He was aggressively and
Speaker 1: so they hit him with the child molestation when he
Speaker 1: tried to buy Marvel Comics. Imagine if Michael Jackson would
Speaker 1: have executive produced Black Panther, oh Man next level. Mike
Speaker 1: was the one thing about Mike and Prince Man it's
Speaker 1: so interesting because they were somewhat effeminate in their public presentation.
Speaker 1: They were gangsters in the business. Run Bro, There's no
Speaker 1: rapper more gangster than Michael Jackson when it came in
Speaker 1: the business period. There's no rapper more gangster than Prince
Speaker 1: when it comes to business, Brom.
Speaker 2: I remember, and it was back when we have technology
Speaker 2: to even enforce any move. Yeah, so you had to
Speaker 2: remember when Eminem disrespected Michael Jackson over the allegations of
Speaker 2: sex abearse I believe this, Mike went and bought his publishing.
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson bought Eminem's publishing, prow A's d That's deed.
Speaker 1: But that's deep. But here's the problem though, Mike and
Speaker 1: Prince should have been collaborators instead of competitors. Do you
Speaker 1: feel me? Had they worked together, loomed, they might still
Speaker 1: be here. You can't beat white supremacy alone. Prince was
Speaker 1: fighting solo, Mike was fighting solo. Whitney Houston fighting solo.
Speaker 1: You see that.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a team. It takes armies to defeat armies. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's pretty. That's damn good, damn wow. Tell you something
Speaker 2: Puff should have done.
Speaker 1: If I'm a multi billionaire mogul, especially if I'm know
Speaker 1: I'm doing some evil shit. Bad boy is what twenty
Speaker 1: years old going on? You were The first thing Puff
Speaker 1: should have done. He should have found the ten smartest
Speaker 1: kids in Harlem and pay for all of them to
Speaker 1: go to law school with a contract that when you graduate,
Speaker 1: you work for bad Boy. See we gotta start you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't think right? What the money is?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: And the reason why why does the problem with us
Speaker 1: a loan Black men, in particular black women too, but
Speaker 1: especially us. Our egos have been so destroyed and cashtrated.
Speaker 1: We have the most bruised the ego in America, And
Speaker 1: because of that, we're constantly seeking violidation. Yes, why do
Speaker 1: we date white women validation? Why do we go to
Speaker 1: the PWY over to HBCU validation? Why do we move
Speaker 1: into the white suburb instead of standing in the ghetto
Speaker 1: where you ain't have to pay half the property tax validation?
Speaker 1: Why do we have to wear the most expensive clothes
Speaker 1: that they make validation? Why do black people own more
Speaker 1: Mercedes than whites?
Speaker 2: We own more mercean whites make less, and you ain't
Speaker 2: got a third of.
Speaker 1: The weelth validation. So until the black man conquers his
Speaker 1: need for external validation, our egos will always be used
Speaker 1: against THEFF. I fight against mine because it's there.
Speaker 2: You have to, Yeah, I have to fight it, like nah,
Speaker 2: Like I was just telling him, all I have to
Speaker 2: be an example now because I'm moving out pass towards yes,
Speaker 2: the water mall, and you have to.
Speaker 1: Start thinking about legacy.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And so for me, it's like a lot of the
Speaker 2: friends that I have and a lot of the people
Speaker 2: that I know in our culture, they kind of get
Speaker 2: stuck at there at an age and it's like a
Speaker 2: twenty something year old age in their dressing, in their.
Speaker 1: Approach to life and just everything.
Speaker 2: And I want to start to wear suits and I
Speaker 2: want to go casual and start to like be intentional
Speaker 2: with my presentation.
Speaker 1: Understood, you know what I'm saying, And I want that
Speaker 1: to be loud and want young people to know, like
Speaker 1: more mature. Yeah, let's go more mature with this thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So because sometimes I'm in these sentences and I ain't
Speaker 2: handled like the CEO that I that I truly am, And.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out because your presentation that can
Speaker 1: cause hesitation. The wrong presentation can can cause hesitation. I
Speaker 1: be Sometimes I be in a room, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you do know I'm CEO.
Speaker 2: Of a company signed with our heart, one of the
Speaker 2: biggest companies, one of the biggest platforms in the world,
Speaker 2: Like you do understand.
Speaker 1: The wrong sometimes hesitation because of the presentation. Yes, And
Speaker 1: that's on me for the for the most part, because
Speaker 1: I do want to because remember this society values image
Speaker 1: over integrity, right, you understand me? Yes, you could have
Speaker 1: the most integrity in the room, But I'm the one
Speaker 1: who looks like I do you see that we are
Speaker 1: a sensory driven society. What's inside you? We don't even care, right,
Speaker 1: it's all about how you present it. Yes, I want I.
Speaker 2: Want to ask you about this too. Digital segregation by crowdfunding. Okay,
Speaker 2: I was doing some research because there was a conversation
Speaker 2: happening online.
Speaker 1: To me, it was very alarming.
Speaker 2: It was it was in reference to Rodney Hilton Junior,
Speaker 2: which is the grieving black father whose son Ryan was
Speaker 2: shot dead this crowdfunding.
Speaker 1: Yes they did.
Speaker 2: Rodney saw that bodycam footage and snapped tragically running over
Speaker 2: Deputy Larry Henderson. The immediate public response was outraged. Every
Speaker 2: crowdfunding page trying to raise Rodney's defense money got immediately
Speaker 2: shut down. He barely reached seven thousand dollars before the
Speaker 2: platform removed everything under pressure from law enforcement.
Speaker 1: But watch this, Luigi Maloney, which is I remember that's
Speaker 1: a white.
Speaker 2: US assassinating the US health kiss gunned down the company
Speaker 2: CEO and broad Daylight and all of his goal fun
Speaker 2: me type campaigns sword to over a million dollars. He
Speaker 2: even has merchandise with his face on it and it's
Speaker 2: selling online. And if that's not enough, the white woman
Speaker 2: also was on camera, yeah, screaming at the seven year
Speaker 2: old black boy on the playground. She made a million
Speaker 2: dollars in gofund me. I want to speak to the
Speaker 2: digital segregation that happens in crowdfunding and where did it start?
Speaker 2: Because I also hit his term floating around of black fatigue.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard that lately. Well, white
Speaker 2: people are are starting to say we're tired of hearing
Speaker 2: black people complain and kind of outline and point out
Speaker 2: some of the things that they've been clarifying.
Speaker 1: Okay, the black fatigue is white people being fatigued about
Speaker 1: black completetions or is it black people being fatigued from
Speaker 1: dealing with racism? I don't know. I'm asking.
Speaker 2: My understanding is white people are using the term black
Speaker 2: fatigue as to say we're tired, so white plain suffering
Speaker 2: black fatigue.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was the other one. I know, we're tired of.
Speaker 2: You complaining about right right right right, right, right right right,
Speaker 2: and so I want to kind of speak to all
Speaker 2: of that and we could take it however you want. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the fatigue on both definitions.
Speaker 1: You feel me. First of all three primary rules of racism,
Speaker 1: all white people are racists, and they do not share
Speaker 1: power with black people. They do not share what power?
Speaker 2: Crowdfunding is a form of what economic empowerment?
Speaker 1: How dare you negroes? Whether Carmelo Anthony was right or
Speaker 1: wrong don't matter to them, Whether Rodney Hinton was right
Speaker 1: or wrong, don't matter to them. Why do you think
Speaker 1: you can come to white people and use our platform
Speaker 1: to empower yourself. The Frederick Douglass and Marcus Gonavie Academy
Speaker 1: loom we was a go fund me platform. They shut
Speaker 1: us down without a reason. Why Because I am not
Speaker 1: gonna help you build some independent black school that you're
Speaker 1: gonna use to liberate and emancipate black minds so they
Speaker 1: could compete with us for power over this society? Are
Speaker 1: you crazy?
Speaker 2: The question loom isn't whether or not there is crowdfunding discrimination.
Speaker 1: Of course it is. But you know what the bigger
Speaker 1: question is, after four hundred years, after four hundred and
Speaker 1: six years, why you still expecting white people to help
Speaker 1: you empower yourself against them. Equality is a sin. Equality
Speaker 1: is a sin. Equality eliminates white privilege. America is built
Speaker 1: on white privilege. So I'm not surprised at all. And
Speaker 1: I want to say this for the people who felt
Speaker 1: like Rodney Hinton was wrong and running over the quote
Speaker 1: unquote innocent officer. Some people, Negroes included, are saying this
Speaker 1: would have only been justice if Rodney Hinton would have
Speaker 1: unalived the officer who unalived his son. I completely disagree.
Speaker 2: You know why, Rodney Hinton was not at war with
Speaker 2: a single officer. Rodney Hinton was at war with a
Speaker 2: corrupt police system.
Speaker 1: His son was not alived by a single officer. It
Speaker 1: might have been a single officer that fired to kill shot.
Speaker 1: His son was unalive by a corrupt police department with
Speaker 1: a history of murdering black people without accountability. So we
Speaker 1: are fighting institutions and systems, not individuals.
Speaker 2: And also, what I find interesting is is America gets
Speaker 2: this amnesia that if you strike one eyes, I've heard
Speaker 2: America come out and say, somebody else gonna raise your
Speaker 2: children for doing what you've done.
Speaker 1: So they don't get what they did as a result
Speaker 1: of the fabricated accusations of nine eleven. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying they went when America bombs, America never targets the military,
Speaker 1: They target civilians. Do you know how much blood is
Speaker 1: on the hands of America for murdering innocent women and
Speaker 1: children in other countries, and you got the audacity to
Speaker 1: say that he should have found the exact officer. I'm
Speaker 1: not happy about the loss of life and if the
Speaker 1: man was a half decent person, with condolences to the family.
Speaker 1: But we not fighting individuals. We are fighting systems and
Speaker 1: when and here's the thing, it don't matter what cop
Speaker 1: would have chased his son, he was going to get
Speaker 1: shot because that's their policy in dealing with black men.
Speaker 1: So he was not wrong in what he did. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this with Rodney Hinton, with Carmelo Anthony,
Speaker 1: they have shifted the conversation. Their courage has shifted the conversation.
Speaker 1: What do I mean a black father takes it upon
Speaker 1: himself to unlive an officer after having his son unlived,
Speaker 1: We're not used to that. A young black boy takes
Speaker 1: it upon himself to defend his life from two racist
Speaker 1: twins who are trying to brutalize him. We're not used
Speaker 1: to that. And the reason we're not used to that,
Speaker 1: loon is for four hundred and six years, white America
Speaker 1: has always had absolute jurisdiction over the black body. You
Speaker 1: see this sometimes when you out and about living your life,
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to tell white people, I need you
Speaker 1: to back up, I need you to get off my porch,
Speaker 1: I need you to take your hands off my child.
Speaker 1: White people don't have boundaries with us because for the
Speaker 1: first two hundred and forty six years of this four
Speaker 1: hundred and six they owned us. So we have to
Speaker 1: re establish safe space with them. Rodney Hinton did that.
Speaker 1: Carmelo Infony did that, guess what, Just like with Emmettil,
Speaker 1: just like with Malcolm, just like with any of our martyrs.
Speaker 1: Not to put them on that level, but yet and
Speaker 1: still it's the same type of a situation. Now, when
Speaker 1: white kids go to bully a black child, you better
Speaker 1: think twice. Now when a police officer in Cincinnati goes
Speaker 1: to unliva black kid, you sure he ain't got no father? Right,
Speaker 1: Because Rodney Hinton just put a new idea into the
Speaker 1: universe on how to deal with police brutality. And as
Speaker 1: much as people want to denigrate it, all behavior, I'm
Speaker 1: a psychologist, will train this loop. All behavior is a
Speaker 1: function of its consequences.
Speaker 2: Everything. How do you train your dog consequences? How do
Speaker 2: you train your employees? Consequences?
Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton just show you you want the police to
Speaker 1: stop killing your children until they feel pain. You will
Speaker 1: never stop feeling pain. And you've always said that at
Speaker 1: some point blood may have to be shit. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, what have we ever gotten an
Speaker 1: American society that we did not bleed for? We bled
Speaker 1: for freedom, We bled for the Civil Rights Act, we
Speaker 1: bled for the Civil Rights Bill, we bled in black power.
Speaker 1: Everything else is an illusion. They say, no Congress passed
Speaker 1: the Thirteenth Amendments, that was celebratory in symbolic. We had
Speaker 1: already bled. That's just them trying to reassert their control
Speaker 1: over the narrative. Abraham Lincoln didn't free us. We freedom.
Speaker 2: Read the white generals in the Civil War said, if
Speaker 2: it wasn't for the Negro America, we do countries today,
Speaker 2: a Union and Confederacy.
Speaker 1: And if we could redo history, loan one of the
Speaker 1: things I wish we would have redone When Roberty Lisa
Speaker 1: rendered to Ulysses S. Grant at the Appomatics Courthouse in Virginia.
Speaker 1: I think that was April fourth, eighteen sixty five, right.
Speaker 1: I wish black men would have said, you know what,
Speaker 1: if we can beat the Confederacy for Abraham Lincoln, maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe we can beat Abraham Lincoln too, Loom what
Speaker 1: if we would have said, you know what, we not done.
Speaker 1: We took the South, let's take the North. Yet. Imagine
Speaker 1: if we would have done it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we would have won or not, but history was on
Speaker 1: our side. If we can shut down the Southern states,
Speaker 1: why couldn't we shut down the South? Sometimes? Brother, we
Speaker 1: don't believe in ourselves enough. You feel me. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: don't believe in ourselves.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy because they'll on one end say how.
Speaker 1: Dysfunctional we are and how disillusion we are.
Speaker 2: And then they won't point to the facts that but
Speaker 2: we had to go in there and fight that fight
Speaker 2: that y'all didn't have the ability to fight.
Speaker 1: We wrestle it down for a reason. America America, not
Speaker 1: just with the Civil War. Brother, So let's go before
Speaker 1: the Civil War. Let's go to the Louisiana purchase. Do
Speaker 1: you know that this country is three times the size
Speaker 1: it was because the Haitian Revolution with the Silo overture
Speaker 1: on John Jacques Dessolin's and Christoph and Petian and Siecil Fati.
Speaker 2: Man and Bookmon and Makandal when they destroyed Napoleon's army,
Speaker 2: a slave army, distreeted, defeated the greatest general the white
Speaker 2: man ever had. An army of slaves defeated the greatest
Speaker 2: general the white man ever had. And because the Haitian
Speaker 2: Revolution bankrupted Napoleon, he sold his American territories to America
Speaker 2: for pennies on the die.
Speaker 1: Remember that the Louisiana purchase loan quadruple the size of
Speaker 1: the United States of America.
Speaker 2: So when I tell you America wouldn't be America with
Speaker 2: our black people, America wouldn't be America with the fact.
Speaker 2: Now back to the crowdfunded thing. Who started? In your opinion, HM,
Speaker 2: where did this start? As it pertains to when when
Speaker 2: what what? As it pertains to, what could be considered
Speaker 2: as a heinous act takes place. Didn't the racist or
Speaker 2: the people on one side of or another throws their
Speaker 2: financial mc behind something to try to take a stand.
Speaker 1: I think it was Michael Brown and Ferguson or Zimmerman.
Speaker 1: Was their crowdfunding for Zimmerman. I believe.
Speaker 2: That's where it started. Mike Brown popularized it because with
Speaker 2: the Mike Brown case, you had an officer who unlived
Speaker 2: an unarmed.
Speaker 1: Child and they left his body in the street for hours.
Speaker 1: And the evidence in the Michael Brown case because there
Speaker 1: were witnesses. Remember with Tray Vn.
Speaker 2: I don't think we had any witness Michael Brown, you
Speaker 2: had witnessed, so it was obvious that this was an execution, yes,
Speaker 2: And so when black people saw white people rush to
Speaker 2: the defense of the white officer with obvious evidence in
Speaker 2: eye witness testimony that he unallowed that young man unnecessarily,
Speaker 2: that's when crowdfunding really became what it became. And I
Speaker 2: think crowdfunding helped black people to see how racist white
Speaker 2: people liked.
Speaker 1: The American racial identity crept right into crowd And do
Speaker 1: you know why it's the same thing with social media
Speaker 1: or Twitter.
Speaker 2: Or voting and all of this, right, because well, but
Speaker 2: it's just it's just overt in the money.
Speaker 1: Because why I'm able to be racist, but you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily see who I am. Do you feel me when
Speaker 1: I go into the booth to vote against reparations, I
Speaker 1: can be racist, but you don't know how I voted.
Speaker 1: When I donate one thousand dollars to these police, tell us,
Speaker 1: I can be racist, but you never see my face.
Speaker 1: Whenever white people are able to manifest. When white people
Speaker 1: are able to manifest their racism and not be seen,
Speaker 1: you really see who they are because he's clearly. Look
Speaker 1: at Shiloh Hendricks. She caught a five year old disabled
Speaker 1: child the in word for going in a bag. White
Speaker 1: kids going bags too. You feel me. It was an
Speaker 1: innocent kid. He don't know nothing about no thief. He
Speaker 1: of autism and guess what white folks said, what we
Speaker 1: don't care? And if it's one thing black people need
Speaker 1: to understand, loom and I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: benefits of the Trump administration. Although I don't support him
Speaker 1: or his administration, Donald Trump is making it popular to
Speaker 1: be publicly racist again. You feel me, You feel like
Speaker 1: he making it popular. He said, We're gonna take Harriet
Speaker 1: Tubbing off the website. Man, they doing some shit, man, bro.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Mega Evers off the National Military Cemetery website.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go into the Smithsonian National African American Museum
Speaker 1: and anything in there that shows how brutally racist America
Speaker 1: was the blacks. We're taking it out.
Speaker 2: All the Civil War statues that y'all took down back
Speaker 2: in the twenty fifteen Charston killing of Dylan Ruth when
Speaker 2: he murdered the Charston nine. Yes, we're putting them statues
Speaker 2: back up South African refugees. If you don't like the
Speaker 2: fact that the blacks and South Africa taking the land
Speaker 2: that your ancestors stole from them, you could come over
Speaker 2: and be a refugee. Donald Trump has made it safe
Speaker 2: to be a bigot. Did you see the executive order
Speaker 2: he signed on the police, Donald trummunity. It's not the
Speaker 2: word immunity, It's called a un leashing America's law. And
Speaker 2: for unleashing, he's basically saying, go get active. You can
Speaker 2: basically what he's saying, you can kill blacks and you
Speaker 2: do not have to worry about being held accountable. But
Speaker 2: with that being said, though Loom as a historian, a
Speaker 2: part of me is saying, we gotta embrace this. Now.
Speaker 1: Some black people say, what the hell doctor Umar talking about? Embrace?
Speaker 1: How we being dehumanized and push? You know why you
Speaker 1: gotta embrace it? Because it is these types of conditions.
Speaker 1: Do you feel me atmosphere? Thank you? What did I
Speaker 1: say earlier? Everything in the universe is created from positive
Speaker 1: and negative force? You see that we fought again slavery.
Speaker 2: Because we had no choice. We fought for civil rights,
Speaker 2: we had no choice. The racism became so intense.
Speaker 1: That we got to a point loom where we said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we might die anyway, so we might
Speaker 1: as well stand up and fight. That's what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: America is eliminating all the conveniences it has given to
Speaker 1: black people in this society, and we're now getting to
Speaker 1: a point loom where it's like, what am I living for?
Speaker 1: And when people get desperate, they become courageous. This is
Speaker 1: exactly the type of atmosphere you need. It is this
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a Marcus Golfey, It is this
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a Frederick Douglas. It is this
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a human Newton. It is this
Speaker 1: that gave birth to an h Rap Brown. It is
Speaker 1: this that gave birth to the freedom riders in the
Speaker 1: city movements. You understand me.
Speaker 2: So this is exactly what you need for black people
Speaker 2: to get up off they ask and struggle. What the
Speaker 2: Frederick Douglas said, If there is no struggle, there is
Speaker 2: no progress. Do you think what's your feelings on him?
Speaker 2: Rolling back the DEI stuff it didn't benefit us at all.
Speaker 2: D I never benefited black.
Speaker 1: Four percent of DEI hires were black four per So
Speaker 1: my question to you, homosexuals, white women, non black immigrants,
Speaker 1: do you feel me physically handicapped non blacks? Remember, minority
Speaker 1: is everything except white male. Let me give you an example.
Speaker 1: Much respect to Pastor Jamal Bryant, much respect to Reverend Sharpton.
Speaker 1: As you know, they had a boycott of Target. Nothing
Speaker 1: was wrong with that because Target needed to know you
Speaker 1: don't mistreat black people. Still get our money, and as
Speaker 1: a result of that boycott, Target has lost hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars day on a day on life. Right,
Speaker 1: So the reactionary intervention by Pastor Bryant and Reverend Sharpton,
Speaker 1: I support it. Target need to be taught a lesson
Speaker 1: my destructive criticism because I respect them, my constructive criticism
Speaker 1: for both gentlemen. You gave us the reactionary that's the boycott,
Speaker 1: But now you got to do something proactionary that benefits
Speaker 1: black people. Yes, where is that Taking our people from
Speaker 1: Target to Costco is not a win because you're taking
Speaker 1: them from Target who exploited that black dollar, and you
Speaker 1: now give them to another corporation that's going to exploit
Speaker 1: that black dollar. Right, yes, yes, what they should have done,
Speaker 1: and this is why black leadership gets criticized. What they
Speaker 1: should have done with their influence is they should have
Speaker 1: created a mega mart for the black community. Our Sharpton
Speaker 1: has the following. Pastor Jamal Bryant has the following. Why
Speaker 1: not come together and give our people a black alternative?
Speaker 1: Why are we leaving our people choosing between two white alternatives,
Speaker 1: neither of which really gives a damn?
Speaker 2: So we broke target, no problem. I stand with you.
Speaker 2: But now we're gonna go in enrich Costco. What are
Speaker 2: they doing so great that they deserved a black dollar?
Speaker 2: Not much at all. Where is the black alternative? And
Speaker 2: this is why loom people criticize black leadership because we're
Speaker 2: always good on the boycotting, we're always good on the protesting,
Speaker 2: we're always good on the embargos. But when it comes
Speaker 2: time to take that energy and turn it into something
Speaker 2: constructive and progressive for black people, you never see any solutions.
Speaker 2: I give you another one.
Speaker 1: After every police underliving of a defenseless black person, we
Speaker 1: had a what riot. Yes, we tore down the institutions
Speaker 1: that supported police genocide. Right, that's good. But after we
Speaker 1: tore down them institutions, did we come back into our
Speaker 1: community and build anything for the people. Pastor Briant and
Speaker 1: Reverend Sharpton need to build something for the people and
Speaker 1: not just redirect our dollar from one white corporation to
Speaker 1: the next. I like what they did, but that was reactionary, necessary,
Speaker 1: but it was reactionary. Where are their proactive solutions? Institutions
Speaker 1: are half of the solution for you cooking today? That's
Speaker 1: a damn good point because that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Speaking of him Trump taking some of these statues that
Speaker 2: I've also seen a black statue of a black woman,
Speaker 2: they said in Times Times.
Speaker 1: I saw the statue. Some people think it's harmless. I don't,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why. Symbolic artwork is usually
Speaker 1: focused on representing the best of a people. Are you
Speaker 1: following me? If we had a museum with multiple pieces
Speaker 1: of black art that was on display, then that statue
Speaker 1: won't be a problem. You want to know why it's
Speaker 1: one of many pieces. But for you to put what
Speaker 1: I believe is the first ever statue of a black
Speaker 1: woman in Tom Square, why wasn't it of a black
Speaker 1: female celebrity. Why wasn't it of a black woman caring
Speaker 1: for her children. Why wasn't it a black woman with
Speaker 1: her king supporting her. Why wasn't it of a black
Speaker 1: inventor female? We had many.
Speaker 2: Why wasn't it of a black doctor, black engineer, black
Speaker 2: business owner?
Speaker 1: Why was it of a single black woman? Was her
Speaker 1: hand on her hips? I don't even remember single black woman.
Speaker 1: Look it up real quick, see if the hand look
Speaker 1: up that picture was the hands on the hips. She
Speaker 1: was not proferred dressed. She was extremely casual, slightly overweight,
Speaker 1: braids in her hair. Definitely didn't look like somebody on
Speaker 1: their way to work. Definitely didn't look like somebody on
Speaker 1: their way to operate their own business. Was a hands
Speaker 1: on the hips? Did you see? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: When a black woman in hands is on her hips? Stereotypically,
Speaker 1: that's the sassy mama. Look, that's the independent. I'm on welfare,
Speaker 1: I don't have a husband, i might have multiple kids.
Speaker 2: Complaining, whining masculine. That was an insult to black female
Speaker 2: integrity and dignity. That did not represent the great divine
Speaker 2: feminine at all. That was an insult, my brother, that
Speaker 2: was an insult. You have too many Black women doing
Speaker 2: too many great things. Let me give you an example
Speaker 2: of why I consider that an insult. Black women are
Speaker 2: the most educated population in America, right, the most educating.
Speaker 2: Why not at least put a book bag on her back.
Speaker 2: Black women are the most educated population in America. Keep
Speaker 2: the same outfit. Put a book bag on her back.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're saying now, Loun. She's a student,
Speaker 2: she might only be twenty, she might only be twenty one,
Speaker 2: she might not have a job, which is cool, but
Speaker 2: she's on her way. Why not put a book back
Speaker 2: to show Black women are the most educated group.
Speaker 3: Uh uh?
Speaker 2: I want to show a single quote unquote independent black
Speaker 2: woman who can't find a man or a job. That's
Speaker 2: what I want to show. That was an insul.
Speaker 1: Art is supposed to represent the greatness of a people,
Speaker 1: the greatness of a people, like I said, Loun. If
Speaker 1: it was multiple pieces, it would have been. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: one statue stand alone in time square, a business district.
Speaker 2: You put that in the wealthiest business district on the
Speaker 2: planet Earth.
Speaker 1: You put a statue of an unemployed black woman. And
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to say nothing of First of all,
Speaker 1: do we know who put that up? There? Was that
Speaker 1: the city? Was that a donation? Was that a local university?
Speaker 1: Because I want to know under what premises? Is it temporary?
Speaker 1: Is it permanent? What is it that? That's the whole
Speaker 1: thing is, like, what's your purpose? What y'are doing?
Speaker 2: Uh? Insult have been displayed in the same city where
Speaker 2: a contingentous moment, it doesn't say who. As the conversation intensified,
Speaker 2: criticism has emerged from several angles, from those seeking to
Speaker 2: preserve the county's historical monuments and from people wondering if
Speaker 2: the peace employed stereotypical imagery, from critics calling the message
Speaker 2: ham fisted, but social media has been overrun with commoners,
Speaker 2: often anonymous, hurling over racists and sexist terms. Piece Grounded
Speaker 2: in the Stars was produced in twenty twenty three by
Speaker 2: Thomas J. Price, a London based sculpture whose work in
Speaker 2: recent years has directly.
Speaker 1: Google his name. Google his name and put London based
Speaker 1: sculpt the Thomas Price, London based sculptor and see if
Speaker 1: you can and hit images and see if you see
Speaker 1: his face and the reason I'm asking you to see
Speaker 1: what race he was. Most of the statues in this country,
Speaker 1: loom of great black heroes are made by non black artists.
Speaker 1: They do not let our people create and craft our
Speaker 1: own heroes. I want to know if he was white
Speaker 1: or black. It's not showing him. Here's some more. If
Speaker 1: you hit a hit image, does his face come up?
Speaker 1: They're showing of his works. I wonder what he is
Speaker 1: either way, it was unacceptable. He is black. Okay, he's black.
Speaker 1: Let me see him, I think. Okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: knock him per se. It looks like he has several works.
Speaker 1: My question is why did they choose that that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's still a thing. It's still respected him and
Speaker 2: his creativity. That was what they all the wealthy times
Speaker 2: to use us and and missteps we may have made,
Speaker 2: or misrepresentations that they can now redefine right and use
Speaker 2: that against us and say, well he made we didn't do.
Speaker 1: Y'all male, Why symbols rule the world? Brother? Every memory
Speaker 1: in your head is a symbol. Your brain don't store
Speaker 1: information in sentences. It's symbols. White Jesus symbol. Look at
Speaker 1: that symbol? What is that telling Black girls when they
Speaker 1: see that? What is that? Look at all the black
Speaker 1: female entrepreneurs we have. You couldn't have put them up there.
Speaker 1: You know, how many do you realize how many different
Speaker 1: representations of Black women I can brainstorm right now, and
Speaker 1: that's what you give me in the wealthiest business district
Speaker 1: of the planet. That's an insult. Yeah,