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Speaker 1: don't care how much grooming. You're not a child, you're.

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Speaker 2: A grown woman, and you mix race on top of that,

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Speaker 1: Feel, there's no way you're doing all of.

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Speaker 2: This if you don't want to from a psychologist there,

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Speaker 2: For what about this Stockholm syndrome thing that people are

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Speaker 1: I believe that all of that bears some truth in

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Speaker 3: And if you ain't talking, no toler name. Look they

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Speaker 3: she couet doing on my phone, So I called her mama,

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Speaker 3: better thing. Get them boys, wag or what lil and

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Speaker 3: I boish your brain, but get all that they did.

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Speaker 2: You lave the reason you broke.

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Speaker 3: You know a hoss ain't normal, stressed some red road,

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Speaker 2: And every time you go to work long think about that.

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Speaker 1: What my people have been through, because if I showed

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Speaker 1: historical suicide. Boy cooking the day you got so okay,

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Speaker 1: Now that the white man knows Ryan Clark is not

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Speaker 1: loyal as well. The Lord. It's the loyalty. Ryan Clark's

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Speaker 1: Yes. So now the white man is like damn, he's

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Speaker 2: And so also getting back to the community that when

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm highly upsetting you're about to get kicked out

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Speaker 2: I'm not loyal to my mother. I'm not loyal to

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Speaker 2: And this is how I explain it. Who has mistreated

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Speaker 1: You a damn lie.

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Speaker 2: Who locked you up, who miseducated, who fired you, who

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Speaker 2: black man's problems in America were caused by the white man,

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Speaker 2: not the black woman. Why you don't have the same

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Speaker 2: smoke for him. Yeah, and that's why you don't have

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Speaker 1: That's the whole fact. It's because you love white people

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Shannon Sharp and Terrell Owens said, when I

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Speaker 2: Owens, When I was young going through school, black women

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Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me you don't date black

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Speaker 2: But you'll let a white woman dog walk your ass

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Speaker 2: But if a black girl calls me ugly, I'll never

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Speaker 2: You a goddamn hippo. You hate yourself and you hate

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Speaker 2: A lot of times black women are kicked into survival mode.

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Speaker 1: They say, I like the white woman because she's passive,

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Speaker 1: pay this white girl twenty five thousand dollars per check.

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Speaker 1: And she looked like two thirteen, Steve, Nah, look like

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Speaker 2: Ye, you're gonna pay her twenty five thousand dollars before

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Speaker 1: She don't even have man. She looked like she needed

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Speaker 1: if black women are the gold diggers, loom, show me

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Speaker 1: a OnlyFans model, Show me a black OnlyFans model who

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Speaker 1: and them sisters got fat ass. It's worse than you.

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Speaker 2: You talk about set ups, They got the set up

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Speaker 2: and they not getting twenty five granded cheek. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Because it wasn't about the body, It wasn't about the

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Speaker 2: Do you think the close eye am to white people,

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Speaker 1: Don't find it odd that the brothers who go the

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Speaker 1: I definitely find it. And I'm saying this as a

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Speaker 2: You get light skinned brothers who only day white. But

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Speaker 2: in my experience, my dark skin brothers, they go crazy

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Speaker 1: They go crazy over snow bunny vaginactiv Look at RG three.

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Speaker 2: You just got a divorce and went and wifed up

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Speaker 2: another bunny.

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Speaker 1: Self hatred brother. There's a book France for nine. No.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard of him. He was

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Speaker 1: from Martinique. He's one of our greatest black revolutionaries. They

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Speaker 1: They had to get him out the way because he

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Speaker 1: called Black Skin White Mass. Every snow bunny Hopper needs

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Speaker 1: to read black Skinned White Mass and guess what he

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Speaker 2: He talked about how black men who date white women

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Speaker 1: I believe victims, but I'm not believing no privileged white

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Speaker 1: And you got these tiger woods? Ex wife got a

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Speaker 1: and if you ever remarry, you don't get enough a dime. Man,

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Speaker 1: We are not winning in this snow bunny hunt. We

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Speaker 1: We need to start a snow bunny leasing agency. Start

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Speaker 1: leasing them out, because all you doing is leasing them.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Shot was leasing up. He was leasing out, but

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Speaker 2: RGD was leasing that first wife This ain't no relationship.

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Speaker 1: This is business for money, pleasure for money. And when

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Speaker 2: Extra fees, all the extra mile. This ain't nothing but

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Speaker 2: need to start a snow bunny leasing agency. You want

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Speaker 2: And um, and I'm gonna tell you something else. And

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Speaker 1: I believe it. If you black brother, going and get

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Speaker 1: I'm good. You're looking. If you black and you in

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Speaker 1: end this relationship. This should be snow bunny insurance. If

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Speaker 1: But I think that they were looking at him for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely over for that, they don't play the

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know another reason

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Speaker 1: sometimes they gotta respect the fact that you're standing on

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. You're a brother with all

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Speaker 1: People say, why you defending Puffy. I'm not defending Puffy.

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Speaker 1: If Puffy's sexually trafficked people, Puffy should go to jail.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I ain't see no evidence of it.

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Speaker 1: freak golfs. I ain't see no RICO evidence.

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Speaker 2: I ain't seen on interstate prostitution evidence, and I ain't

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Speaker 2: The FED indictment is not about kicking Cassie in the hallway,

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Speaker 2: although that was wrong and he should have never done it.

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Speaker 1: This case has nothing to do with Cassie, but she's

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Speaker 2: How in the hell is the star witness somebody who

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Speaker 1: Your deeptailing, freak off, your deeptailing who was here? Which

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Speaker 1: has me thinking, Loan, I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I ain't seeing no evidence

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Speaker 1: in no crime. But so freak off is not illegal.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to be a freak in America. Most of

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Speaker 1: them celebrities are Look what you have Finna did. This

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Speaker 1: is what they do in them secret societies. Show me

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Speaker 1: evidence of a crime. Every day in court has been

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Speaker 2: There's something to be said about these black men's sexual appetite, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in Shan. First of all, I'm disappointed in

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Speaker 1: Do you know what she must think about you as

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Speaker 1: Any black man who engages in racial sex play with

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Speaker 1: It's something else to give them a But no, I'm

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Speaker 2: Also in sexual relationships, you'll have women who might not

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Speaker 2: but when you are in the bedroom, you may can

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Speaker 1: What do you say? But if you're saying that's you

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Speaker 2: Are invoking the historical pain of your ancestors. You are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, brother, that's a little yeah, that's that

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00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: is deep sin. And I believe that a lot of

432
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: these black male celebrities, and a lot of black men

433
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: in general are under demonic possession, brother, because one of

434
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: the best ways that the forces of evil invade your

435
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: space and in your life is through sex. Because when

436
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: you're having sex, the shield that all God is down,

437
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: the shield that generally protects your soul, it's down. That

438
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: deal is torn off. So whatever you are doing in

439
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: the bedroom is going to have a converbative effect on

440
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: the way you think feeling behaved. And so when I

441
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: listen to what they say Puffy was doing and urinating

442
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: and Cassie, why are you doing all this? I'm gonna

443
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I believe in Seawan Comb's and

444
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm standing with him until proven guilty.

445
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: But I believe in the case of Seawan Combs, when

446
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: I listen to the sex acts that took place at

447
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: these freak offs for him, for Cassie, I'm gonna go

448
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: with Shannon Sharp with the sex play right slave plantation play.

449
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: These men experienced deep, profound emotional wounds as children. Puffy's

450
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: sex addiction, Cassie's sex addiction, Shannon Sharp's slave plantation role

451
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: play addiction. These are addictions that developed because they use

452
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: sex as their outlet to deal with their unaddressed psychological wounds.

453
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: Do you feel me if I was able to get

454
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: Puffy on that couch alone for two hours, me and Puff,

455
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: I promise you I could find out what the real

456
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: problem is that you're trying to drown out with your

457
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: sex off, with your freak offs. The Freakoffs loom are

458
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: an escape from reality. Shannon Sharp sexual role play with

459
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: Gabrielle Issu Ninja's that's a escape from your psychological pain.

460
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: Anytime you see people engaging in extreme, repeated sexual behavior,

461
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: this is a drug, This is a sedative.

462
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: This is my estate. Absolutely, Puffy and what are you

463
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: running from, Cassie? What are you running from? Shannon Sharp,

464
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: what are you running from? I personally believe with my

465
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: brother Shannon Shark. No disrespect to him because I think

466
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: he's a good guy. I think Shannon is fundamentally a

467
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: good guy. I don't get bad energy from him. He

468
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: hate himself though.

469
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: Shannon needs some deep seated racial healing therapy, bro, because

470
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: you already said the black girls called you ugly, and

471
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: then you turn around and let the white girl treat

472
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you like a ninja. Goodness, low self esteem. Money can't

473
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: fix that. Yeah, nah, for sure.

474
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: When we're dealing with Diddy, in particular, for people who

475
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: are unaware, you have to be living under rock.

476
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Diddy is on trial for a RICO and several other

477
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: charges in the state sex trafficking, interstate prostitution in the States,

478
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: the Man Act in particular. Yeah, I know about that

479
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: because they created that Jack Johnson. They created for Jack

480
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: Johnson because he openly paraded around white women. Right, this

481
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: is in the nineteen twenties, this is Garvey time. You

482
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: ain't even have no civil rights. And this black guy,

483
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: and by the way, I think they killed him. Remember

484
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: he died in a car accident, tragic car accident. I

485
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: think they cut his break line back then, I think

486
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: like that. I think Jack Johnson was murdered, but he

487
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: prayed around with these white women. So the fans came

488
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: up with the Man Act, which was also called the

489
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: White Slaves White Slavers Sex Trafficking Act. If you take

490
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: a woman across state lines right to have sex, that

491
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: could be considered interstate prostitution. That let me tell you

492
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: how they change in the game with puff. This is

493
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: important for every black man in America. You mean because

494
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: we know women across state lines? Do we not pay

495
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: attention to this puff trial? Because what I think they're

496
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: trying to do with the Man Act now is I

497
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: think they are trying to create a new precedent in law.

498
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Yes we're diddyes, but it's gonna affect us all where

499
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: if a woman flies in to see you, lou.

500
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: This is lady friend, ain't paying for no seconds and

501
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: we're getting to know what y'all, this is regular romance.

502
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: If she crossed state lines, you can be charged with

503
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: the Man Act. Do you know how many black men

504
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: would go to jail because they're not gonna use it

505
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: on white men. They're not gonna use it on yellow man.

506
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: And it's about when the law has always been selectively applied.

507
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Speaker 2: To imagine how many black men could be brought up

508
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510
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Speaker 1: to set it up, That's what I'm saying.

511
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Speaker 2: And they have to say precedent with Diddy, So if

512
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Speaker 2: they can blur the lines and guess what else they

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Speaker 2: when the law has always been selectively applied. To imagine

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540
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541
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Speaker 2: Up, That's what I'm saying. And they have to say

544
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545
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Speaker 1: And guess what else they got to say to your

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548
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: saying he needs to suffer Black men, who's saying he

549
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: needs to suffer If you let them convict Puff on

550
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the Man Act with no evidence of forced sex trafficking

551
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: or activity, where you basically say, convict him just because

552
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: somebody crossed state lines to have a freak off, all

553
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: of us can end up with federal charges. What do

554
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: you say to Cassie's testimony?

555
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on how Cassie has handled herself some

556
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: of the allegations she's made.

557
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Did she I believe to you?

558
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: Or how do you feel about I didn't watch, but

559
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: I read the report. I can't watch right.

560
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I believe she was as much a freak as Puff was,

561
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: if not more. If not more, anybody who wants to

562
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: claim that she was purely a victim is in denial.

563
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: If Loom, there's no way. I don't care how much grooming.

564
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: You're not a child, you're a grown woman. And you

565
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: mix race on top of that, so you got a

566
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: white parent, There's no way you're doing all of this

567
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: if you don't want to do.

568
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: You think that from a psychologists standpoint, not for a

569
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: woman with a white parent. What about this Stockholm syndrome

570
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: thing that people are trying to.

571
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Know that's very real. I believe that all of that

572
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: bears some truth in this case, but cannot be completely

573
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: explained by it. Here's the problem I had with the

574
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: cast see the supporters right, and I empathize with the

575
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: sister as well because Puffy did take advantage of her.

576
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: The problem I'm having, Loan is I'm seeing people go

577
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: out of their way and make excuses for her because

578
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: she's not an all black woman. If Cassie wasn't light

579
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: skin and mixed race, do you really think she would

580
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: be getting this type of sympathy from the Black community

581
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: or the America at all. No, it's because she was

582
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: mixed race that people are coming to an eight. If

583
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: this was Lizzo in this case, you feel me, she

584
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't get half the sympathy. She would be called a

585
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: gold digger. And if you didn't want to be there,

586
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you could have left. You feel me, Yes, I didn't

587
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: think about that. Black women don't get Black women that

588
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: type of support. This is only happening because Cassie is

589
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: mixed race. Yes, and there's a lot of people who

590
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: are so.

591
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: From a psychology standpoint, can you explain even what Stockholm

592
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: syndrome means to the people.

593
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome is when someone grooms you dominates, destroys you

594
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: to the point where they eliminate any imagination or memory

595
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: of you being independent or wanting independence. You start to

596
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: depend on them, You start to rely on them. They

597
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: become your world, and you start to believe that you

598
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: cannot exist without them, despite the fact that they are

599
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: punishing you, manipulating you, and putting your life in danger.

600
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: Our enslavement in America, post traumatic slavery disease is a

601
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: form of Stockholm syndrome. It's the most pronounced form, but

602
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: it's a form of Stockholm syndrome, so it's basically brainwash.

603
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Cut you off from the world what any domestically abusive

604
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: man does. I'm a cutter off from her family. I'm

605
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: a cutter off from her friends. I'm a cut off

606
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: from a church, her social network, and I'm going to

607
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: remake her world because the brain is what the victim

608
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: of repetition. I don't care how intelligence you are. The

609
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: brain is not conditioned on intelligence, Loan. This is why

610
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: you say why some of our greatest black scholars had

611
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: white wives. I'm talking about African centered scholars. Shake into joke.

612
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: The black man who proved that the mummies in Egypt

613
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: was black had a white wife. You know why, because

614
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: intellectual knowledge is one thing. Deep seated unconscious conditioning is

615
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: something else. Stockholm syndrome is deep seated unconscious conditioning. What

616
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: did Adolf Hitler say? Adolf Hitler said, And I'm no

617
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: fan of Hitler because he not only killed Jews, he

618
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: killed Africans too. And I got an issue with the

619
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: European Jews who never highlight the Africans who were murdered

620
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: with them in the concentration camps, and don't even highlight

621
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: the Africans who delivered them from the concentration camps. It

622
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: was black soldiers in World War two loom, they had

623
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: the yes, yes, and you don't see them honored in

624
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: no Holocaust museum. And they never talk about the fact

625
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: that they participated in our slavery. Who ensured the slave ships,

626
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: who built the ships, who put the insurance, It was

627
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: them European Jews, and nobody ever talks about that. So

628
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: you want the world to hurt for you, no problem,

629
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: But what about the hurt you caused us? But getting

630
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: back to this point brainwash, Adolf Hitler said, if you

631
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: want to control people, it's not difficult. He said, come

632
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: up with a lie, make the lie big loan, the

633
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: lie gotta be supreme, and just keep telling it over

634
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: and over again. The human mind cannot regnore ignore what

635
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: it is constantly told to believe, even if it's not true.

636
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: And who was Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels a psychologist?

637
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Do you see Stockholm syndrome in Cassie's explanation of events?

638
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: I see some of it, but I do think she's

639
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: exploiting a lot of it. So that's what I don't understand.

640
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Cassie willingly subjected herself to Sean Combs

641
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: because she wanted access to the fame exactly. There is

642
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: no getting around it was their manipulation. Yes, I'll even

643
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: give you a fifty to fifty split if you want loan.

644
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: But anybody who tries to tell me, doctor Umar Cassie's

645
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: experience with Sean Puffy combs was one hundred percent outside

646
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: of her realm of control and exclusively due to his

647
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: manipulation and brainwash. Hell no, you get no vote from

648
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: me because you get no vote from him.

649
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: I always say to myself, because even now, like I said,

650
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: I'm in the day marketing, you meet women.

651
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: You say, all right, I gotta be careful, Like you say, oh.

652
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: You better be careful now, Yeah, it's very careful. It

653
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: is open season on black men. Notice you don't see

654
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: the same thing with white men. You get you a

655
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Harvey Weinstein every once in a while, but you don't

656
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: see nothing like this, right because it's not alone and

657
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: you're not going Even if you see a Harvey Weinstein,

658
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: you won't even see the parent, nor.

659
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: You're following that we have seeing Diddy going through that.

660
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: He understand right now. He might go on right, well,

661
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: right now if you're a black man, because I'm looking

662
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: at this and I'm political, and I'm like, you know what,

663
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: you almost gotta have an NDA anytime you go on

664
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: a date. You follow what I'm saying, So bad man,

665
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: you cannot get into any kind of an argument because

666
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: she can very easily lie and either say she felt

667
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: threatened or she can just say you put hands on her.

668
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Look what Lil Wayne's situation, right, And of course he

669
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: was buddy hopping right, had no business doing that coolish behavior.

670
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: But she said he put her out, and then she

671
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: also accused him of putting hands on her and asked

672
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: for a lawyer. Right, listen, no evidence for black men.

673
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: You don't need evidence. All you have to do is

674
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: make the accusation. So you got to be careful now

675
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: because it is popular now to destroy black men on

676
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: false allegations of sex abuse. However, I still don't see

677
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: black women getting away with it the way white women are.

678
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. They have a privilege our

679
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: sisters do not have. Lil Wayne, he was bunny hopping.

680
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: He might got to pay up. All these black men

681
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: dating outside the race. They gotta start rethinking in that

682
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: long right. And here's another thing, right, So it's like.

683
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: You sit back and you say these because women know

684
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: we're attractive, successful men with them.

685
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: And so they have. Women are drawing the power any woman,

686
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and that's natural and so, but you have to make

687
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: sure she don't want you just for the power. Right.

688
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: But when they come in, because listening to Ditty, I

689
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: can only imagine Diddy sitting there like and Cassie's on

690
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: standing and it's like, this is the girl who was

691
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: telling me to come freak on on. She was telling

692
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: me to come peeing on my and then flipped it

693
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: and then flipped it. So it's like at what point?

694
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: And then she's up there saying I lost all autonomy.

695
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. I was just

696
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: moving on his behalf.

697
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: But at one point, is it cohersion? And then or

698
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: versus you lied about what you're into. Yes, that has

699
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: to be a line. It's a very fine line.

700
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: But you misrepresent what you're into to get next to

701
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: me and then say I progress true that.

702
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: But here's the overall message. Here's the overall message, Loan,

703
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: as black men, we need to in order to survive America.

704
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be sexually disciplined. You follow what

705
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There is no more one night stance. Now,

706
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: if you got something to lose, I'm saying, there is

707
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: no one night stance. There is no way, Bam. Thank you, ma'am.

708
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Anytime you allow a woman into your personal space, you

709
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: have just empowered her to disgrace your name and destroy

710
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: true or false. You understand, you see that. That's where

711
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: we are. But I'm gonna look at it from a

712
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: positive thing. Not that this is good, but what it

713
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: says to me is you were not sent here by

714
00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: the most high to exploit the vaginas of women. Black

715
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: woman's vagina is a sacred space. That is the canal

716
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: from which God sends new life. You are to protect it,

717
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: you are to honor it, you are to reverence it,

718
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: and you must respect it. The message in this Sean

719
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: Combs thing, the message in all of this, Shannon Sharp,

720
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: get your sex life in alignment with your spiritual life,

721
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and get your spiritual life in alignment with the Almighty. Yes, yes,

722
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: you're being brought down illegally, falsely, and unjustifiably. That's part true.

723
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: But now let's look at divine justice. Shannon Sharp is

724
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: innocent of criminal justice. I believe Puffy Combs is innocent

725
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: of criminal justice. I think they're both guilty of divine justice.

726
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: You are not supposed to be sexually exploiting women for

727
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: your personal pleasure. Get your life in order. That's what

728
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: is telling me.

729
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: Fact, you cannot use the black woman as a plaything.

730
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: Not only that, you're not supposed to use any woman

731
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: as a plaything. This is a message from our ancestors

732
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: saying we're not happy with the way y'all been treating

733
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: our daughters.

734
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Do them right, or leave them the hell alone.

735
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: That is a powerful, profound point that to me makes

736
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: so much sense. Yes, so you say, man, like you,

737
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: Like you said, the universe is still speaking. The universe

738
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: is still speaking, like Yo, Man. The universe and an

739
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: African culture we have a singing.

740
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: I embrace the positive and negative aspects of everything I

741
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: experience in life because the good and the bad collaborate

742
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: in helping me achieve my destinies. So in African culture,

743
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: we believe you go through good and through bad. You

744
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: can't have one without the other because it's the only

745
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: way we birth your destiny.

746
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: So even though they're criminally innocent, both men are spiritually

747
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: guilty and that then you gotta pay for that.

748
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: You gotta pay for now. Karma ain't nothing to play

749
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: with man with Diddy's trial.

750
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: So, in your opinion, they are not proving the allegations

751
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: of the charges presented.

752
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: Not yet. Now. Some people are saying that the prosecution

753
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: is slow walking this thing. Some people are saying that

754
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: the prosecution is starting out with Cassie and the freak

755
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: offs to disparage his character. First established that that he's

756
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: a creep, and then we're going to hit him with

757
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: the evidence of Rico and interstates. So what a prostitution

758
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: about Rico?

759
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying it's all blurry man because

760
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: it's his assistant. He's using his bodyguards.

761
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: This is what rich men do. That's what Richmond gonna

762
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: move around with. I'm gonna tell you, but I'm gonna

763
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: tell you something. I don't think Puff used his organization

764
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: as much as they would have liked him to do.

765
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. From what I'm seeing, it

766
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: was him, yes, and his freak off mates. You see

767
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He wasn't using the secretary, and you

768
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: follow what it was a select team, which I think

769
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: is going to sav ing. He didn't use the whole

770
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: bad boy to do this because a lot of this

771
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: happened off bad boy time. Let's go back. The reason

772
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: why they're having such a start a hard time proving

773
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: his case is he got locked up on frivolous reasons

774
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: in the first place. Puffy is going through this because

775
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: he sued theag YO. Puffy sued and started his own

776
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: political party, and they needed to make sure that he

777
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: couldn't influence the twenty twenty four election, and so he

778
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: had to be in jail. Puffy had to be taken

779
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: off the streets during election season because he started that

780
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: Black Party, and either Democrats or Republicans knew where he

781
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: stood and they couldn't afford to let him influence the outcome,

782
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: and they had to pay him back for suing diag Yo,

783
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: So he wasn't locked up for this anyway. These charges

784
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: were fabricated to make the case stick. What about Kid

785
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Cutting testifying? What did he say?

786
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: He said he had testified to Diddy blowing his car up.

787
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: He said he came home one day and his dog

788
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: was in the bathroom. Some kind of way Diddy got

789
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: in his house, locked his dog in the bathroom. According

790
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: a kid Cutting fed him some kind of additive that

791
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: killed this dog later, not then, but he got gradually, yeah,

792
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: gradually killed his dog and moved the cameras around, and

793
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: there was this big back and forth with him and Cassie.

794
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: But my thing is, on one end they paint Diddy,

795
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: and of course we don't defend Diddy, we're dealing with

796
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: the information. Yes, one end, they say Diddy's this violent

797
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: guy who's willing to kill about Cassie and kill everything

798
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: about you know, harboring whatever is going on.

799
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: And then on the other end, she runs off with

800
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: kid Cutty and the car blows up allegedly, according to them,

801
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: and he does that.

802
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: So what they're basically saying is Kid Cutty said he

803
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: asked Diddy about his car. He said he wanted to

804
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: wait till he got in his face, and he said

805
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Diddy was standing there like a blade or something, a

806
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: black super villain. He said this in court, said when

807
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: he got up on him and he shook his hand

808
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: and said, man, what about my car? And Diddy said,

809
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, playboy, And that

810
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: was the end of the interaction. But basically, Kid Cutting

811
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: and Diddy had a checkered pass due to his involvement

812
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: with Cassie. But Kid Cutting, in his words, was scared

813
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: of Diddy. Diddy had him terrified and would hurt people.

814
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of people were just understandable. But how

815
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: do you prove it was Diddy? It was here saved.

816
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even understand how it was allowed on the

817
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: stand when it was all here saved because they don't

818
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 2: have nothing. They don't have nothing.

819
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Let they let him get up there and basically say,

820
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: I was told that did he blew the car? No

821
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: one was charged, No one knew, and it's on a trial.

822
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Police investigation on a federal I don't think they have nothing, brother,

823
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they have nothing. I believe that this

824
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: was punishment. And what do they do is they like

825
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: to exhaust your wealth. They know how much you make,

826
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: because we ain't got no black banks, right, they exhaust

827
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: your wealth or not many black banks. They exhaust your

828
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: wealth enough to break you.

829
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: Do you think that they they're coming for a fortune,

830
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: of course, and that's why they want to tie in

831
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: the bad boys ship and the like you did.

832
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: I wonder how much his lawyers are making. They knocking

833
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: dust from him? Do you feel me? And what percentage

834
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: of his estate is being drained by this case? You

835
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: see them? Don't get me wrong. You know what I

836
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: think they want to do. They want to liquidate his

837
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: assets to the point where they have to force them

838
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: to sell his masters and it's publishing. Do you think

839
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: they're going to try to come get it? Because if

840
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: they alleged that you.

841
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: That you're masters and your publisher us with it earned

842
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: as part of Eureco, which means they automatically fall, we

843
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: can sell them at auction to it. This is what

844
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to do, because it feels like

845
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: you're tying in the organization.

846
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense.

847
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, what is that when he would force

848
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: him forfeit his master's bad boy.

849
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: He's the liquor company everything.

850
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: And so even if we get two years out of him,

851
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: three years, we see him get to get all of

852
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: that with the No matter.

853
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: How much time that you know what I'm saying, we

854
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: could give him a day because if we able to

855
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: take his assets, we win, we win. He can go home. Now,

856
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. You see what I'm saying. That

857
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: time already served. That's what I'm saying. But even with

858
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: that loom, that's dangerous for other black men. Yes, you

859
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: feel all we have to do. And this is why

860
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: black people need to stop trying to throw Puffy under

861
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the bus. This is not about Puffy, It's about us.

862
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: What do we know about this plantation When they whipped

863
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: the slave in front of the others, It was never

864
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: about ling slave. It's about the rest of y'all. If

865
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: you let them convict puff on Rico with the scantiest

866
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: of evidence and allowed them to take this man hold

867
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: of State publishing and masters, they can do that.

868
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: To anybody they filled. I'm almost certain they're coming for that.

869
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm almost I'm almost certain.

870
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: It makes sense because look at why they killed Michael

871
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: Jackson because he wouldn't give up the publishing the Masters,

872
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: the Beatles and Elvis. He did would and he was

873
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: trying to buy more of yeh. He was aggressively and

874
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: so they hit him with the child molestation when he

875
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: tried to buy Marvel Comics. Imagine if Michael Jackson would

876
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: have executive produced Black Panther, oh Man next level. Mike

877
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: was the one thing about Mike and Prince Man it's

878
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: so interesting because they were somewhat effeminate in their public presentation.

879
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: They were gangsters in the business. Run Bro, There's no

880
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: rapper more gangster than Michael Jackson when it came in

881
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: the business period. There's no rapper more gangster than Prince

882
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to business, Brom.

883
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: I remember, and it was back when we have technology

884
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: to even enforce any move. Yeah, so you had to

885
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: remember when Eminem disrespected Michael Jackson over the allegations of

886
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: sex abearse I believe this, Mike went and bought his publishing.

887
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson bought Eminem's publishing, prow A's d That's deed.

888
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: But that's deep. But here's the problem though, Mike and

889
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Prince should have been collaborators instead of competitors. Do you

890
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: feel me? Had they worked together, loomed, they might still

891
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: be here. You can't beat white supremacy alone. Prince was

892
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: fighting solo, Mike was fighting solo. Whitney Houston fighting solo.

893
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: You see that.

894
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: You gotta have a team. It takes armies to defeat armies. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

895
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: that's pretty. That's damn good, damn wow. Tell you something

896
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: Puff should have done.

897
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: If I'm a multi billionaire mogul, especially if I'm know

898
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing some evil shit. Bad boy is what twenty

899
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: years old going on? You were The first thing Puff

900
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: should have done. He should have found the ten smartest

901
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: kids in Harlem and pay for all of them to

902
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: go to law school with a contract that when you graduate,

903
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you work for bad Boy. See we gotta start you. Yeah,

904
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: we don't think right? What the money is?

905
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: Man?

906
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: And the reason why why does the problem with us

907
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: a loan Black men, in particular black women too, but

908
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: especially us. Our egos have been so destroyed and cashtrated.

909
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: We have the most bruised the ego in America, And

910
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: because of that, we're constantly seeking violidation. Yes, why do

911
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: we date white women validation? Why do we go to

912
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: the PWY over to HBCU validation? Why do we move

913
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: into the white suburb instead of standing in the ghetto

914
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: where you ain't have to pay half the property tax validation?

915
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: Why do we have to wear the most expensive clothes

916
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: that they make validation? Why do black people own more

917
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: Mercedes than whites?

918
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: We own more mercean whites make less, and you ain't

919
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: got a third of.

920
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: The weelth validation. So until the black man conquers his

921
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: need for external validation, our egos will always be used

922
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: against THEFF. I fight against mine because it's there.

923
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: You have to, Yeah, I have to fight it, like nah,

924
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Like I was just telling him, all I have to

925
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: be an example now because I'm moving out pass towards yes,

926
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: the water mall, and you have to.

927
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Start thinking about legacy.

928
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: Yes.

929
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: And so for me, it's like a lot of the

930
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 2: friends that I have and a lot of the people

931
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: that I know in our culture, they kind of get

932
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: stuck at there at an age and it's like a

933
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: twenty something year old age in their dressing, in their.

934
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Approach to life and just everything.

935
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: And I want to start to wear suits and I

936
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: want to go casual and start to like be intentional

937
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: with my presentation.

938
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: Understood, you know what I'm saying, And I want that

939
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: to be loud and want young people to know, like

940
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: more mature. Yeah, let's go more mature with this thing.

941
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: Man.

942
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: So because sometimes I'm in these sentences and I ain't

943
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: handled like the CEO that I that I truly am, And.

944
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out because your presentation that can

945
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: cause hesitation. The wrong presentation can can cause hesitation. I

946
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: be Sometimes I be in a room, I'm like, yo,

947
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: you do know I'm CEO.

948
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: Of a company signed with our heart, one of the

949
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: biggest companies, one of the biggest platforms in the world,

950
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: Like you do understand.

951
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: The wrong sometimes hesitation because of the presentation. Yes, And

952
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: that's on me for the for the most part, because

953
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: I do want to because remember this society values image

954
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: over integrity, right, you understand me? Yes, you could have

955
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: the most integrity in the room, But I'm the one

956
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: who looks like I do you see that we are

957
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: a sensory driven society. What's inside you? We don't even care, right,

958
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: it's all about how you present it. Yes, I want I.

959
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: Want to ask you about this too. Digital segregation by crowdfunding. Okay,

960
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: I was doing some research because there was a conversation

961
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: happening online.

962
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: To me, it was very alarming.

963
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: It was it was in reference to Rodney Hilton Junior,

964
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: which is the grieving black father whose son Ryan was

965
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: shot dead this crowdfunding.

966
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: Yes they did.

967
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: Rodney saw that bodycam footage and snapped tragically running over

968
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: Deputy Larry Henderson. The immediate public response was outraged. Every

969
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: crowdfunding page trying to raise Rodney's defense money got immediately

970
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: shut down. He barely reached seven thousand dollars before the

971
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: platform removed everything under pressure from law enforcement.

972
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: But watch this, Luigi Maloney, which is I remember that's

973
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: a white.

974
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 2: US assassinating the US health kiss gunned down the company

975
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: CEO and broad Daylight and all of his goal fun

976
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: me type campaigns sword to over a million dollars. He

977
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: even has merchandise with his face on it and it's

978
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: selling online. And if that's not enough, the white woman

979
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: also was on camera, yeah, screaming at the seven year

980
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: old black boy on the playground. She made a million

981
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: dollars in gofund me. I want to speak to the

982
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: digital segregation that happens in crowdfunding and where did it start?

983
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: Because I also hit his term floating around of black fatigue.

984
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard that lately. Well, white

985
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: people are are starting to say we're tired of hearing

986
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: black people complain and kind of outline and point out

987
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: some of the things that they've been clarifying.

988
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, the black fatigue is white people being fatigued about

989
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: black completetions or is it black people being fatigued from

990
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: dealing with racism? I don't know. I'm asking.

991
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: My understanding is white people are using the term black

992
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: fatigue as to say we're tired, so white plain suffering

993
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 2: black fatigue.

994
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I was the other one. I know, we're tired of.

995
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: You complaining about right right right right, right, right right right,

996
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: and so I want to kind of speak to all

997
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: of that and we could take it however you want. Okay, Okay,

998
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the fatigue on both definitions.

999
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: You feel me. First of all three primary rules of racism,

1000
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: all white people are racists, and they do not share

1001
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: power with black people. They do not share what power?

1002
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Crowdfunding is a form of what economic empowerment?

1003
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: How dare you negroes? Whether Carmelo Anthony was right or

1004
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: wrong don't matter to them, Whether Rodney Hinton was right

1005
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: or wrong, don't matter to them. Why do you think

1006
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: you can come to white people and use our platform

1007
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: to empower yourself. The Frederick Douglass and Marcus Gonavie Academy

1008
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: loom we was a go fund me platform. They shut

1009
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: us down without a reason. Why Because I am not

1010
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna help you build some independent black school that you're

1011
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: gonna use to liberate and emancipate black minds so they

1012
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: could compete with us for power over this society? Are

1013
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you crazy?

1014
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: The question loom isn't whether or not there is crowdfunding discrimination.

1015
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: Of course it is. But you know what the bigger

1016
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: question is, after four hundred years, after four hundred and

1017
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: six years, why you still expecting white people to help

1018
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: you empower yourself against them. Equality is a sin. Equality

1019
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: is a sin. Equality eliminates white privilege. America is built

1020
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: on white privilege. So I'm not surprised at all. And

1021
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to say this for the people who felt

1022
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: like Rodney Hinton was wrong and running over the quote

1023
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: unquote innocent officer. Some people, Negroes included, are saying this

1024
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: would have only been justice if Rodney Hinton would have

1025
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: unalived the officer who unalived his son. I completely disagree.

1026
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: You know why, Rodney Hinton was not at war with

1027
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: a single officer. Rodney Hinton was at war with a

1028
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: corrupt police system.

1029
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: His son was not alived by a single officer. It

1030
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: might have been a single officer that fired to kill shot.

1031
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: His son was unalive by a corrupt police department with

1032
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: a history of murdering black people without accountability. So we

1033
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: are fighting institutions and systems, not individuals.

1034
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: And also, what I find interesting is is America gets

1035
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 2: this amnesia that if you strike one eyes, I've heard

1036
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: America come out and say, somebody else gonna raise your

1037
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: children for doing what you've done.

1038
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: So they don't get what they did as a result

1039
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: of the fabricated accusations of nine eleven. That's what I'm

1040
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: saying they went when America bombs, America never targets the military,

1041
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: They target civilians. Do you know how much blood is

1042
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: on the hands of America for murdering innocent women and

1043
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: children in other countries, and you got the audacity to

1044
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: say that he should have found the exact officer. I'm

1045
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: not happy about the loss of life and if the

1046
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: man was a half decent person, with condolences to the family.

1047
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: But we not fighting individuals. We are fighting systems and

1048
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: when and here's the thing, it don't matter what cop

1049
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: would have chased his son, he was going to get

1050
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: shot because that's their policy in dealing with black men.

1051
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: So he was not wrong in what he did. And

1052
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this with Rodney Hinton, with Carmelo Anthony,

1053
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: they have shifted the conversation. Their courage has shifted the conversation.

1054
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: What do I mean a black father takes it upon

1055
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: himself to unlive an officer after having his son unlived,

1056
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: We're not used to that. A young black boy takes

1057
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: it upon himself to defend his life from two racist

1058
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: twins who are trying to brutalize him. We're not used

1059
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: to that. And the reason we're not used to that,

1060
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: loon is for four hundred and six years, white America

1061
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: has always had absolute jurisdiction over the black body. You

1062
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: see this sometimes when you out and about living your life,

1063
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to tell white people, I need you

1064
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: to back up, I need you to get off my porch,

1065
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: I need you to take your hands off my child.

1066
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: White people don't have boundaries with us because for the

1067
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: first two hundred and forty six years of this four

1068
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: hundred and six they owned us. So we have to

1069
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: re establish safe space with them. Rodney Hinton did that.

1070
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Carmelo Infony did that, guess what, Just like with Emmettil,

1071
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: just like with Malcolm, just like with any of our martyrs.

1072
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: Not to put them on that level, but yet and

1073
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: still it's the same type of a situation. Now, when

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Speaker 1: white kids go to bully a black child, you better

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Speaker 1: think twice. Now when a police officer in Cincinnati goes

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Speaker 1: to unliva black kid, you sure he ain't got no father? Right,

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Speaker 1: Because Rodney Hinton just put a new idea into the

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Speaker 1: universe on how to deal with police brutality. And as

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Speaker 1: much as people want to denigrate it, all behavior, I'm

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Speaker 1: a psychologist, will train this loop. All behavior is a

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Speaker 1: function of its consequences.

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Speaker 2: Everything. How do you train your dog consequences? How do

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01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: you train your employees? Consequences?

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton just show you you want the police to

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Speaker 1: stop killing your children until they feel pain. You will

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: never stop feeling pain. And you've always said that at

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Speaker 1: some point blood may have to be shit. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you a question, what have we ever gotten an

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Speaker 1: American society that we did not bleed for? We bled

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Speaker 1: for freedom, We bled for the Civil Rights Act, we

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: bled for the Civil Rights Bill, we bled in black power.

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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: Everything else is an illusion. They say, no Congress passed

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Speaker 1: the Thirteenth Amendments, that was celebratory in symbolic. We had

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Speaker 1: already bled. That's just them trying to reassert their control

1095
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: over the narrative. Abraham Lincoln didn't free us. We freedom.

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Speaker 2: Read the white generals in the Civil War said, if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for the Negro America, we do countries today,

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01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 2: a Union and Confederacy.

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Speaker 1: And if we could redo history, loan one of the

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Speaker 1: things I wish we would have redone When Roberty Lisa

1101
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: rendered to Ulysses S. Grant at the Appomatics Courthouse in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I think that was April fourth, eighteen sixty five, right.

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: I wish black men would have said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: if we can beat the Confederacy for Abraham Lincoln, maybe,

1105
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: just maybe we can beat Abraham Lincoln too, Loom what

1106
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: if we would have said, you know what, we not done.

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Speaker 1: We took the South, let's take the North. Yet. Imagine

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Speaker 1: if we would have done it. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we would have won or not, but history was on

1110
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Speaker 1: our side. If we can shut down the Southern states,

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: why couldn't we shut down the South? Sometimes? Brother, we

1112
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: don't believe in ourselves enough. You feel me. Sometimes we

1113
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: don't believe in ourselves.

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: But it's crazy because they'll on one end say how.

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Speaker 1: Dysfunctional we are and how disillusion we are.

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: And then they won't point to the facts that but

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01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: we had to go in there and fight that fight

1118
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: that y'all didn't have the ability to fight.

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Speaker 1: We wrestle it down for a reason. America America, not

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Speaker 1: just with the Civil War. Brother, So let's go before

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Speaker 1: the Civil War. Let's go to the Louisiana purchase. Do

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Speaker 1: you know that this country is three times the size

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Speaker 1: it was because the Haitian Revolution with the Silo overture

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Speaker 1: on John Jacques Dessolin's and Christoph and Petian and Siecil Fati.

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Speaker 2: Man and Bookmon and Makandal when they destroyed Napoleon's army,

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01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: a slave army, distreeted, defeated the greatest general the white

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Speaker 2: man ever had. An army of slaves defeated the greatest

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Speaker 2: general the white man ever had. And because the Haitian

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Speaker 2: Revolution bankrupted Napoleon, he sold his American territories to America

1130
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Speaker 2: for pennies on the die.

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Speaker 1: Remember that the Louisiana purchase loan quadruple the size of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: So when I tell you America wouldn't be America with

1134
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Speaker 2: our black people, America wouldn't be America with the fact.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the crowdfunded thing. Who started? In your opinion, HM,

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01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: where did this start? As it pertains to when when

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Speaker 2: what what? As it pertains to, what could be considered

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: as a heinous act takes place. Didn't the racist or

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01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: the people on one side of or another throws their

1140
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: financial mc behind something to try to take a stand.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Michael Brown and Ferguson or Zimmerman.

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01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: Was their crowdfunding for Zimmerman. I believe.

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Speaker 2: That's where it started. Mike Brown popularized it because with

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01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: the Mike Brown case, you had an officer who unlived

1145
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: an unarmed.

1146
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: Child and they left his body in the street for hours.

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: And the evidence in the Michael Brown case because there

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: were witnesses. Remember with Tray Vn.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we had any witness Michael Brown, you

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: had witnessed, so it was obvious that this was an execution, yes,

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01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: And so when black people saw white people rush to

1152
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: the defense of the white officer with obvious evidence in

1153
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: eye witness testimony that he unallowed that young man unnecessarily,

1154
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: that's when crowdfunding really became what it became. And I

1155
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: think crowdfunding helped black people to see how racist white

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: people liked.

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: The American racial identity crept right into crowd And do

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01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: you know why it's the same thing with social media

1159
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: or Twitter.

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: Or voting and all of this, right, because well, but

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: it's just it's just overt in the money.

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Speaker 1: Because why I'm able to be racist, but you don't

1163
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: necessarily see who I am. Do you feel me when

1164
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: I go into the booth to vote against reparations, I

1165
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: can be racist, but you don't know how I voted.

1166
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: When I donate one thousand dollars to these police, tell us,

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: I can be racist, but you never see my face.

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: Whenever white people are able to manifest. When white people

1169
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: are able to manifest their racism and not be seen,

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01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: you really see who they are because he's clearly. Look

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: at Shiloh Hendricks. She caught a five year old disabled

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: child the in word for going in a bag. White

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: kids going bags too. You feel me. It was an

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: innocent kid. He don't know nothing about no thief. He

1175
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: of autism and guess what white folks said, what we

1176
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: don't care? And if it's one thing black people need

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Speaker 1: to understand, loom and I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: benefits of the Trump administration. Although I don't support him

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: or his administration, Donald Trump is making it popular to

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: be publicly racist again. You feel me, You feel like

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01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: he making it popular. He said, We're gonna take Harriet

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: Tubbing off the website. Man, they doing some shit, man, bro.

1183
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Mega Evers off the National Military Cemetery website.

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01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna go into the Smithsonian National African American Museum

1185
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: and anything in there that shows how brutally racist America

1186
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: was the blacks. We're taking it out.

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: All the Civil War statues that y'all took down back

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: in the twenty fifteen Charston killing of Dylan Ruth when

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: he murdered the Charston nine. Yes, we're putting them statues

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: back up South African refugees. If you don't like the

1191
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: fact that the blacks and South Africa taking the land

1192
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 2: that your ancestors stole from them, you could come over

1193
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 2: and be a refugee. Donald Trump has made it safe

1194
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: to be a bigot. Did you see the executive order

1195
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: he signed on the police, Donald trummunity. It's not the

1196
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: word immunity, It's called a un leashing America's law. And

1197
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: for unleashing, he's basically saying, go get active. You can

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: basically what he's saying, you can kill blacks and you

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Speaker 2: do not have to worry about being held accountable. But

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Speaker 2: with that being said, though Loom as a historian, a

1201
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: part of me is saying, we gotta embrace this. Now.

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 1: Some black people say, what the hell doctor Umar talking about? Embrace?

1203
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: How we being dehumanized and push? You know why you

1204
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: gotta embrace it? Because it is these types of conditions.

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel me atmosphere? Thank you? What did I

1206
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: say earlier? Everything in the universe is created from positive

1207
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: and negative force? You see that we fought again slavery.

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: Because we had no choice. We fought for civil rights,

1209
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: we had no choice. The racism became so intense.

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: That we got to a point loom where we said,

1211
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: you know what, we might die anyway, so we might

1212
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: as well stand up and fight. That's what's happening right now.

1213
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: America is eliminating all the conveniences it has given to

1214
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: black people in this society, and we're now getting to

1215
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: a point loom where it's like, what am I living for?

1216
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: And when people get desperate, they become courageous. This is

1217
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: exactly the type of atmosphere you need. It is this

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a Marcus Golfey, It is this

1219
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a Frederick Douglas. It is this

1220
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: that gave birth to a human Newton. It is this

1221
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: that gave birth to an h Rap Brown. It is

1222
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: this that gave birth to the freedom riders in the

1223
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: city movements. You understand me.

1224
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: So this is exactly what you need for black people

1225
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: to get up off they ask and struggle. What the

1226
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: Frederick Douglas said, If there is no struggle, there is

1227
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: no progress. Do you think what's your feelings on him?

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01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: Rolling back the DEI stuff it didn't benefit us at all.

1229
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,839
Speaker 2: D I never benefited black.

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01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: Four percent of DEI hires were black four per So

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01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: my question to you, homosexuals, white women, non black immigrants,

1232
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: do you feel me physically handicapped non blacks? Remember, minority

1233
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: is everything except white male. Let me give you an example.

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 1: Much respect to Pastor Jamal Bryant, much respect to Reverend Sharpton.

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01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: As you know, they had a boycott of Target. Nothing

1236
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: was wrong with that because Target needed to know you

1237
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: don't mistreat black people. Still get our money, and as

1238
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: a result of that boycott, Target has lost hundreds of

1239
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: millions of dollars day on a day on life. Right,

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: So the reactionary intervention by Pastor Bryant and Reverend Sharpton,

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: I support it. Target need to be taught a lesson

1242
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: my destructive criticism because I respect them, my constructive criticism

1243
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: for both gentlemen. You gave us the reactionary that's the boycott,

1244
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: But now you got to do something proactionary that benefits

1245
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: black people. Yes, where is that Taking our people from

1246
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: Target to Costco is not a win because you're taking

1247
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: them from Target who exploited that black dollar, and you

1248
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: now give them to another corporation that's going to exploit

1249
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: that black dollar. Right, yes, yes, what they should have done,

1250
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: and this is why black leadership gets criticized. What they

1251
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: should have done with their influence is they should have

1252
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: created a mega mart for the black community. Our Sharpton

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01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: has the following. Pastor Jamal Bryant has the following. Why

1254
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,480
Speaker 1: not come together and give our people a black alternative?

1255
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: Why are we leaving our people choosing between two white alternatives,

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: neither of which really gives a damn?

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01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: So we broke target, no problem. I stand with you.

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 2: But now we're gonna go in enrich Costco. What are

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: they doing so great that they deserved a black dollar?

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01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: Not much at all. Where is the black alternative? And

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01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 2: this is why loom people criticize black leadership because we're

1262
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,440
Speaker 2: always good on the boycotting, we're always good on the protesting,

1263
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: we're always good on the embargos. But when it comes

1264
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 2: time to take that energy and turn it into something

1265
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: constructive and progressive for black people, you never see any solutions.

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: I give you another one.

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: After every police underliving of a defenseless black person, we

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: had a what riot. Yes, we tore down the institutions

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: that supported police genocide. Right, that's good. But after we

1270
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: tore down them institutions, did we come back into our

1271
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: community and build anything for the people. Pastor Briant and

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: Reverend Sharpton need to build something for the people and

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: not just redirect our dollar from one white corporation to

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Speaker 1: the next. I like what they did, but that was reactionary, necessary,

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: but it was reactionary. Where are their proactive solutions? Institutions

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: are half of the solution for you cooking today? That's

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 1: a damn good point because that's exactly what happened.

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01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of him Trump taking some of these statues that

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: I've also seen a black statue of a black woman,

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Speaker 2: they said in Times Times.

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01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: I saw the statue. Some people think it's harmless. I don't,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you why. Symbolic artwork is usually

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Speaker 1: focused on representing the best of a people. Are you

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Speaker 1: following me? If we had a museum with multiple pieces

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Speaker 1: of black art that was on display, then that statue

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Speaker 1: won't be a problem. You want to know why it's

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Speaker 1: one of many pieces. But for you to put what

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Speaker 1: I believe is the first ever statue of a black

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Speaker 1: woman in Tom Square, why wasn't it of a black

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Speaker 1: female celebrity. Why wasn't it of a black woman caring

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Speaker 1: for her children. Why wasn't it a black woman with

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01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: her king supporting her. Why wasn't it of a black

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01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: inventor female? We had many.

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Speaker 2: Why wasn't it of a black doctor, black engineer, black

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Speaker 2: business owner?

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Speaker 1: Why was it of a single black woman? Was her

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Speaker 1: hand on her hips? I don't even remember single black woman.

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Speaker 1: Look it up real quick, see if the hand look

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Speaker 1: up that picture was the hands on the hips. She

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Speaker 1: was not proferred dressed. She was extremely casual, slightly overweight,

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Speaker 1: braids in her hair. Definitely didn't look like somebody on

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Speaker 1: their way to work. Definitely didn't look like somebody on

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Speaker 1: their way to operate their own business. Was a hands

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Speaker 1: on the hips? Did you see? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: When a black woman in hands is on her hips? Stereotypically,

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Speaker 1: that's the sassy mama. Look, that's the independent. I'm on welfare,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a husband, i might have multiple kids.

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Speaker 2: Complaining, whining masculine. That was an insult to black female

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Speaker 2: integrity and dignity. That did not represent the great divine

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Speaker 2: feminine at all. That was an insult, my brother, that

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: was an insult. You have too many Black women doing

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Speaker 2: too many great things. Let me give you an example

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Speaker 2: of why I consider that an insult. Black women are

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Speaker 2: the most educated population in America, right, the most educating.

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Speaker 2: Why not at least put a book bag on her back.

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Speaker 2: Black women are the most educated population in America. Keep

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Speaker 2: the same outfit. Put a book bag on her back.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what you're saying now, Loun. She's a student,

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Speaker 2: she might only be twenty, she might only be twenty one,

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Speaker 2: she might not have a job, which is cool, but

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Speaker 2: she's on her way. Why not put a book back

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Speaker 2: to show Black women are the most educated group.

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Speaker 3: Uh uh?

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Speaker 2: I want to show a single quote unquote independent black

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Speaker 2: woman who can't find a man or a job. That's

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Speaker 2: what I want to show. That was an insul.

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Speaker 1: Art is supposed to represent the greatness of a people,

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Speaker 1: the greatness of a people, like I said, Loun. If

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Speaker 1: it was multiple pieces, it would have been. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: one statue stand alone in time square, a business district.

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Speaker 2: You put that in the wealthiest business district on the

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Speaker 2: planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: You put a statue of an unemployed black woman. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to say nothing of First of all,

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Speaker 1: do we know who put that up? There? Was that

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Speaker 1: the city? Was that a donation? Was that a local university?

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Speaker 1: Because I want to know under what premises? Is it temporary?

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Speaker 1: Is it permanent? What is it that? That's the whole

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Speaker 1: thing is, like, what's your purpose? What y'are doing?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Insult have been displayed in the same city where

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: a contingentous moment, it doesn't say who. As the conversation intensified,

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Speaker 2: criticism has emerged from several angles, from those seeking to

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Speaker 2: preserve the county's historical monuments and from people wondering if

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 2: the peace employed stereotypical imagery, from critics calling the message

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Speaker 2: ham fisted, but social media has been overrun with commoners,

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 2: often anonymous, hurling over racists and sexist terms. Piece Grounded

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Speaker 2: in the Stars was produced in twenty twenty three by

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Speaker 2: Thomas J. Price, a London based sculpture whose work in

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Speaker 2: recent years has directly.

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Speaker 1: Google his name. Google his name and put London based

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Speaker 1: sculpt the Thomas Price, London based sculptor and see if

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Speaker 1: you can and hit images and see if you see

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Speaker 1: his face and the reason I'm asking you to see

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Speaker 1: what race he was. Most of the statues in this country,

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Speaker 1: loom of great black heroes are made by non black artists.

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Speaker 1: They do not let our people create and craft our

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Speaker 1: own heroes. I want to know if he was white

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Speaker 1: or black. It's not showing him. Here's some more. If

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Speaker 1: you hit a hit image, does his face come up?

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Speaker 1: They're showing of his works. I wonder what he is

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Speaker 1: either way, it was unacceptable. He is black. Okay, he's black.

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Speaker 1: Let me see him, I think. Okay, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: knock him per se. It looks like he has several works.

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Speaker 1: My question is why did they choose that that one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's still a thing. It's still respected him and

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Speaker 2: his creativity. That was what they all the wealthy times

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Speaker 2: to use us and and missteps we may have made,

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Speaker 2: or misrepresentations that they can now redefine right and use

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Speaker 2: that against us and say, well he made we didn't do.

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Speaker 1: Y'all male, Why symbols rule the world? Brother? Every memory

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Speaker 1: in your head is a symbol. Your brain don't store

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Speaker 1: information in sentences. It's symbols. White Jesus symbol. Look at

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: that symbol? What is that telling Black girls when they

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Speaker 1: see that? What is that? Look at all the black

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Speaker 1: female entrepreneurs we have. You couldn't have put them up there.

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Speaker 1: You know, how many do you realize how many different

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Speaker 1: representations of Black women I can brainstorm right now, and

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Speaker 1: that's what you give me in the wealthiest business district

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Speaker 1: of the planet. That's an insult. Yeah,