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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Kathy and susn't here. Before we get into

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Speaker 1: today's episode, just a quick psa. If there are any

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Speaker 1: young kids around, maybe grab some headphones. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about some adult things regarding the holidays. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us today. We are so excited to

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Speaker 2: be back and so excited about the holiday. Kathy, are

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Speaker 2: you ready?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not, I got about eight hours

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Speaker 1: left till Santa's coming down the chimney, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's really at this point. I truly am done. And

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Speaker 1: I actually love Christmas Eve. I think I like Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve better than Christmas Day because when the kids were young,

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Speaker 1: we used to go to like a five o'clock service

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Speaker 1: me is just a really beautiful, peaceful time. What about you.

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Speaker 2: I liked giving the kids all one present on Christmas

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Speaker 2: Eve and it was all matching pajamas. They got one

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Speaker 2: every year. The dish this morning would be fun.

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Speaker 1: So did you give them to them this year? Did

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Speaker 1: you give him to this year?

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Speaker 2: No? Because I don't have children live in here.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you don't do it for the kids and

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Speaker 1: the grandkids, the whole family thing. No, you're saying for

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Speaker 1: the kids to come down Christmas morning. Yes, we you

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Speaker 1: know what, we never did Christmas gifts the night before.

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Speaker 1: It was that was that was a you know, you

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Speaker 1: might as well have just unwrapped them under the tree

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Speaker 1: and let you know why. But you know what we

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Speaker 1: did do every year. We we couldn't wait. So I

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Speaker 1: don't obviously don't have any young kids at home tonight,

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Speaker 1: But I missed that tradition too, because when the kids

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Speaker 1: would go to bed, Daryl and I would we each

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Speaker 1: went by, we'd fill their stockings. Got to helpe, No

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Speaker 1: it off. We'd fill the kids stockings and we would

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Speaker 1: get out the gift.

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Speaker 2: Each just one gift from Santa.

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Speaker 1: It was always their big gift, like it was a

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Speaker 1: bicycle or you know, whatever it was that they really wanted.

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Speaker 1: It always came from Santa. And to see their faces

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Speaker 1: was was a man. But I got to tell you

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Speaker 1: the favorite, and then I'm gonna ask you your favorite

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Speaker 1: my favorite memory. Do you know the commercials they do

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Speaker 1: for Disney World. They give it to the kid on Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it on TV? And the kids go, well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you what we did. We did it first.

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Speaker 1: I want the credit. We did it before it was

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Speaker 1: on Disney World. Whatever. We one year, I think my

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Speaker 1: We bought tickets to take the kids to Disney World,

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Speaker 1: airline tickets, the whole bit. We wrapped it up and

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Speaker 1: we didn't give it from Santa Claus. That was Christmas

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Speaker 1: morning and I'll never forget Douglas, my oldest son, was

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Speaker 1: really the only one that was could figure out. He's like,

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Speaker 1: they're plane tickets and we went, yes, we're going on

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Speaker 1: And we went through the whole thing, and then we

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Speaker 2: On the next day.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like two days later. They if you,

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Speaker 1: I mean I could cry again think about it. I

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Speaker 1: going to do it? Really? Really? It was. It was

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Speaker 1: one of probably the best Christmas memory? What about you do?

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Speaker 1: You have the best paper?

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Speaker 2: But I've known it absolutely. But my plan was whenever

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Speaker 2: How many more days? How many more this? How many

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Speaker 1: Oh no, but I'm saying, what is that you did?

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Speaker 1: You do it for Christmas as well?

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Speaker 2: Not on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 1: What is your favor?

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Speaker 2: I've done other trips and given it Christmas Day that

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Speaker 1: What is one of your favorite holiday memories with your family? Oh?

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Speaker 2: When I would dump the kids with some of their gifts,

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Speaker 1: We would I would wrap uh gifts in huge big boxes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and the same thing. Come on, mom, come on, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Christmas Eve? What do you cook? Like?

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Speaker 1: This year? You know, I'm eating whatever's in the furgerator.

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Speaker 2: I used to do the Seven Fishes, like.

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Speaker 1: I said, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I don't When Dicky and I were apart, Dickie would

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Speaker 2: take the children out every Christmas Eve, and they still

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Speaker 2: do it. We go to dinner, and they always wanted

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Speaker 2: to go to the hubachi. Okay for years that is tradition.

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Speaker 2: And now my sisters they go to the hubbachi and

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Speaker 2: Susan's Yellen. This year. I used to join them. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Wow, well, I don't know. I I remember growing up

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Speaker 1: and it was a good old Nor'easter snowstorm. Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: We got out of the car and we were literally

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Speaker 1: it was way more fun. And I'll never forget that memory.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the memories of childhood and the

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Speaker 1: Christmas memories, yeah, I'm sorry, No, there wasn't no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Good ones right from your childhood.

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Speaker 1: No, Christmas memories were always good my my my grandmother

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Speaker 1: was Catholic and I really wanted h.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever go to the midnight Mass?

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Speaker 1: I have. I did go to midnight Mass, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: Tonight I will not be at midnight Mass. I'll be snug.

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Speaker 1: What is it, I'll be dreaming of sugar bloms in

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Speaker 2: But I'm happy tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, go ahead, I'm just gonna say she want.

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Speaker 1: I wanted this winter coat, and my grandmother said, if

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Speaker 1: you if you do the stations of the Cross with me.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what that was. It's like there's

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Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen crosses in a Catholic church. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You can school me on that too, And I went lent.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's lent. Are you sure? Then? Okay, well it

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Speaker 1: It was a Christmas time and I got that coat

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Speaker 1: maybe it was lighting twelve candles. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just you know what I get excited about now.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I wish I could wake up to the babies.

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Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing. When the kids stopped believing

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Speaker 2: it was different. But tonight I don't have to put

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Speaker 2: anything together. We'd be up till wee hours of the

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Speaker 1: Okay, there is Did you ever put the wrong stuff

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Speaker 1: but the people have opened gifts.

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Speaker 2: I go, oh, that's not for you.

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Speaker 1: No, But my kids would come down together because our

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Speaker 1: rule always was on Christmas morning they could open their

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Speaker 1: But they couldn't We couldn't open any presence. Remember my

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Speaker 1: husband was the naval officer rules regulations. There were no

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Speaker 2: Oh they you made them way.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me. I just told you the officer, sir, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: permission to come ashore, sir. My husband said that was

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Speaker 1: that was his tradition. Not only that, susan each person

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Speaker 1: and we did it my family too, with seven kids.

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Speaker 1: You went around and each person opened the gift, so

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Speaker 2: As my kids got older, we did that because you

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Speaker 2: It was chaos for years, and then it was okay,

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Speaker 2: you open yours, now you open yours, But it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, but you never did. I remember putting

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Speaker 1: like two what do you call lip gloss? You know

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Speaker 1: when she was little like playlet and like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is this? And can look at that? Why did

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Speaker 1: Sanna was very tired. Boys. I think that was meant

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Speaker 1: for Caitlyn. I mean, you know all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever lose anything that you bought a Christmas

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Speaker 1: No? Because I do the same thing every year. I

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Speaker 1: put them in. All my gifts are always in a closet.

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Speaker 1: When I can buy something in April and tonight, if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrapping it like Christmas Eve, which rarely happens, but

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Speaker 1: I have been known to do that, I get them

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Speaker 1: all out and I have it. That's where they are.

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Speaker 1: Do you keep them all the same place?

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Speaker 2: Well, everything's in my attic. I have a walk in

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Speaker 2: attic and they're in piles by families. But my dad

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Speaker 2: one year, I bought him a gold chain, a gold

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Speaker 2: neck chain, and he's opening his presence. And I would

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Speaker 2: always save something for the next day because his birthday

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Speaker 2: was the day after Christmas. But I was constantly too

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Speaker 2: excited that it's right here, it's right here. You sure

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Speaker 2: you don't want to open it today? You sure, he said, Susan,

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Speaker 2: tomorrow is my birthday. I will open it, open it tomorrow. Well,

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Speaker 2: long story short, he opened all his gifts and I

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Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, where's dad, did you open

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Speaker 2: something without me looking? I lost it. I lost it

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Speaker 2: the gold chain, like a real gold chain. You loft

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Speaker 2: it gone, it was not there, and we ripped through everything.

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Speaker 2: I looked everywhere. I was so upset. He goes, Susan,

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Speaker 1: Go to the casino on Christmas Day. On Christmas Night,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I sure will. If you could go back and

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Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking that of my children. I thought they

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Speaker 1: Well that is it's still from my past. My kids

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Speaker 2: I love that. What ones I like to go back

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Speaker 2: and visit wouldn't even be Christmas. It's surprising my kids

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Speaker 1: What was your first holiday season like with children?

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Speaker 1: I remember, no, no, no, a baby. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And they liked the paper in the boxes. It didn't

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Speaker 1: They just I remember my kid, my, my my infants.

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Speaker 2: You just gave me an I thought that when we said,

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Speaker 2: I opened presents on Christmas and my son, one son

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Speaker 1: Dime story, how sweet, Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, I'll never forget it. How special they did it,

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Speaker 1: We never had that. I made a face because we

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Speaker 2: All right, Kathy, if you had a naughty and nice

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Speaker 2: list for men your age, what gets someone put on

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I happen to agree with it, but I know you

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Speaker 2: I'm not this one. I'll never forget. My first real job,

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Speaker 2: my whole paycheck. There was a pair of these cheal

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Speaker 2: That's why she has it now and I don't. But

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Speaker 2: The cats me out there. You know, all right, what's

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Speaker 1: mother would make me go and I would scream so

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00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: loudly because I was so really desperately afraid of it,

438
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: and she would make me go. Yes, like I said,

439
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: my stepmother was my real mom anyway, But I was

440
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: just hysterical that the sound scared me so much. And

441
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: now I love fireworks like the louder the better. But

442
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: so I laughed out loud now thinking how afraid I

443
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: was of fireworks back then.

444
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: For me, it's the silly things. I used to stand

445
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: on my table and chairs and have something in my

446
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: hand like a microphone, and I would entertain my parents,

447
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: my grandpa when we went to my nan as, I

448
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: will perform.

449
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: Well you haven't. You're still doing it.

450
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: So I haven't changed a bit.

451
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what's the moment in your life where

452
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: you felt the most proud of yourself.

453
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: I have a couple moments, okay. First, having a child,

454
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: I was so proud that and I went natural foolish,

455
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: not that I planned on it, she just came really fast.

456
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: The second proudest that I felt when I was able

457
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: to speak at my father's funeral, Well, I was very

458
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: proud of myself good for you.

459
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: I don't think I did it for my mom.

460
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: I did it for my brothers, both brothers. It's something.

461
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: It was hard, but it helped me get through it,

462
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: and I was very proud of that.

463
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: Oh, good for you. That I don't think I could

464
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: do about you. So you know, I got married very young,

465
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: and education was always My kids would tell you today

466
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: if you ask them what's most important to mom, they

467
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: would say, I mean, aside for my children and my grandchildren, education,

468
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: it's huge for me. Well, I got married when I

469
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: was twenty. He and I left college and I got married,

470
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: but I was determined to finish my degree, and we

471
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: moved around a lot, and I finally graduated thirteen years

472
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: after I started, and I walked. I remember walking up

473
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: to get that diploma, and I was so proud that

474
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: I did it. Good for you, Okay, what is it?

475
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: All right? Go ahead, you do this one. Go ahead.

476
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: What is an experience you had in your twenties that

477
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: shaped who you became at sixty?

478
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Getting married?

479
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: True to that? I don't think I have an answer

480
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: for that one.

481
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on. If your life had eras

482
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: like you know, Taylor Swift, what would the name of

483
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: your current era be I got it. Well, go ahead,

484
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: save the best for last.

485
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: I'll drink to that.

486
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: I think we can both drink to that one.

487
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what's the wildest or most spontaneous thing you've

488
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: ever done in the name of love?

489
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: Oh god, Susan, you got to take this one.

490
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: I got lost.

491
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? You can do mine for me.

492
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to hit this one up. Go

493
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: for two? What are your two? Top?

494
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: Actually, I've done it more than once, when I surprised

495
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: someone with a gift, of course, with a trip, like

496
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: I took somebody to.

497
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: Greece and that was spontaneous.

498
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Why that was spontaneous?

499
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: You're telling me you just said loo, boom.

500
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: I decided, I went out and did it and boom,

501
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: here you go.

502
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: And this is why Susan is still working. Oh god,

503
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: all right, go ahead.

504
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: What is something you wish viewers knew about what living

505
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: in the mansion was really?

506
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Like, I think you guys know everything, that's all I think.

507
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: I think. Uh, the bathroom situation was a little more chaotic,

508
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like you had to plan when you were going to

509
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: use the toilet if you got my dress.

510
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: Especially with the ones in the other smaller rooms would

511
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: come to use our big ones.

512
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the bathroom situation was not ideal. And

513
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the other thing about living in the mansion is there

514
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: were always like Susan cooked a lot. There were alas

515
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: damn dirty dishes in the sink, and it was always me.

516
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: We were not mentioned any names here, but you and

517
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I both know there were some people who cooked, there

518
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: were some people who were and there were some people

519
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: who never washed a dish.

520
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Excuse me, did you just put that in there? You

521
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: need to wash it? Because the dish washer was broken.

522
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: We had to wash the dishes. Okay, right, alrighty. If

523
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: you could redo one moment from the show, funny or serious,

524
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: what would it be?

525
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh for me? Yeah, I would yell at to me,

526
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: c even louder. What is wrong with you? Zip it now? Yep?

527
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: You know what I like to jumping out of the cake.

528
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: I really had fun jumping out of the cake.

529
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: That was fun. That was fun. It was such a

530
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: fun time on that show. I wish everyone could have better.

531
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: They need to do another show with us. Okay, what

532
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: is something you learned about yourself in your sixties or

533
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: seventies that you wish you knew earlier. Oh, you learned about.

534
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: Yoursel Oh that's so easy for me. Okay, God, that

535
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: I may not be perfect, but I wish I knew

536
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: that and believed it. That I'm the best I can be.

537
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, but I'm a good person. I'm the

538
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: best I can be, and not everyone's gonna love me,

539
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: and that's okay. In other words, I think I spent

540
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: too much time earlier in my life trying to please

541
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: other people, trying hard and now and didn't realize that.

542
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not everyone's cup of tea, And guess what,

543
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: not everyone's my cup of tea. And I learned that.

544
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Likely it's quite similar that I don't have to be somebody.

545
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm not to please another person. I'm good enough.

546
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: You're a better, a good life.

547
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: You're bank already. What's a love lesson? You learned the

548
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: hard way? Oh? God, don't ask me that, because I

549
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: still don't learn.

550
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, I can answer this, and I will tell you.

551
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: It makes me cry, but I'll get through it. What

552
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: I learned the hard way is when my husband was

553
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: a life alive. You know the old expression do you

554
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: want to be right or happy? I sure wanted to

555
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: be right all the time. And I learned that the

556
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: hard way because now I can't you know, I can't

557
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: tell them now. I don't care care about being right.

558
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: I just want to be happy.

559
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: There you go. What's a belief of value or truth

560
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: you've kept with you your entire life?

561
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: What? Oh? I got one?

562
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

563
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I value integrity. I value doing the right thing. I'm

564
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: not saying I've never that I haven't at times done

565
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the wrong thing. We all do. But I put great

566
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: emphasis and great belief that you do the right thing

567
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: for you. You don't do it so other people see it.

568
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: You do the right thing to set hopefully to set

569
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: an example for your children, for your friends, and so

570
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: that people will look at me and say, they'll realize

571
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: I have integrity, because that's really important to me. What

572
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: about you?

573
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: And for me, it's being real to people and not

574
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: telling a lie because you think that's what they want

575
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: to hear. Yeah, just being straightforward and unapologetically authentically us. Okay.

576
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: When did you feel the most loved ever? The most.

577
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: By my nana?

578
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, my nana? Really?

579
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: I mean I felt love by my family, my friends,

580
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, my boyfriends that I've been in love with

581
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: my husband. But my Nana. I was very special to

582
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: her because, as I think I mentioned before in one

583
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: of our podcasts, she had three brothers and then she

584
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: got married and had three sons, and my dad was

585
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: the oldest, and she came from Italy and I was

586
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: the first grandchild. It's a girl.

587
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Needless, no wonder. Okay, now I understand the deal with Nana. Okay,

588
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: for me, it's absolutely no brainer. My husband, he he

589
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: always made me feel so loved.

590
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: So sweet. Okay, what's a moment in your life you

591
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: think your younger self would be really proud of. I

592
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: think my younger self will be proud of me, period.

593
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: That's not a moment. I'm very proud of her.

594
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: Younger self would be most proud that Susan on Christmas

595
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Eve gets out those teal shoes and says, I might

596
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: have spent one hundred and fifty bucks on my how.

597
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Many years I held on the never dry riding in

598
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: the islandic I would never throw them all.

599
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think I think my younger self

600
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: would be proud because I didn't have great role models.

601
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: I think my younger self would be proud of the

602
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: mom I was to my kids again, made a lot

603
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: of mistakes, but I was you know.

604
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Wait, I know it's your turn, but I got to

605
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: ask you this, Okay, is there a part of your

606
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: personality people misunderstand and what's the truth behind it?

607
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: You know what?

608
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: I can answer that.

609
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you answer it for me. Go ahead, Kathy.

610
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: I work on it constantly with her. It's her delivery.

611
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: She's got a heart of gold, she really does. But

612
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: the way she puts it out there sometimes it's a

613
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: little rough.

614
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm gonna tell you it's because the truth is,

615
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: You're right, and I am misunderstood. People think I'm hard.

616
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not really hard at all. But I was one

617
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: of seven kids, and I was for a while before

618
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the you know, the second marriages. I was the youngest

619
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: of five. And let me tell you, you learn to scrap

620
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: and fight because you're gonna in my house. You starved

621
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: if literally if you you know so. I learned to

622
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: be direct and hard and move fast because you know,

623
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: he who hesitates is lost in my family and things.

624
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: We develop who we are from our child.

625
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, childhood trauma, we can do. We can weeks

626
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: on that subject.

627
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy different for us.

628
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: What about you.

629
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: I think people know exactly who I am.

630
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh see, I think you are kind.

631
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm a crier, I'm sensitive. Maybe they don't realize how

632
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: sensitive I am.

633
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: I think no, I think people see all that in you.

634
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: I think people I don't think they misunderstanding about you.

635
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: But I think people think that you are always sweet,

636
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: always just a love button, which you are a lot

637
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: of time. But there is also a side of you

638
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: that can be tough.

639
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: You don't see it to hurt somebody I love, or

640
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: you're pissing me off.

641
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: That's the side I know.

642
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people, and this came

643
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: from in my career in hair business, would the young

644
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: ones would say, I want to be like you when

645
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: I grow up. You don't let anything bother you. That

646
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: is so far from the truth. Yeah, it really is.

647
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: People think I'm stronger than ever and I can handle anything,

648
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: and I can I manage. But it hurts like things.

649
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what I till you make it.

650
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people who come across as

651
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: really strong have have weaker not weaker, have sensitive sides

652
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: where they just learn how to cope better or disguise it.

653
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Pick a word. Coping skills or disguise it because they

654
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: don't want to have that conversation. They don't want to

655
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: show it. But here it is Christmas Eve, we learn

656
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: more about us. That is our Christmas holiday gift to

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Speaker 1: you all, getting to know a little bit more about us.

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Speaker 1: I speak for Susan and me when we wish those

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Speaker 1: of you who celebrate Christmas a very very happy Christmas

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Speaker 1: and and to the rest of the world happy, happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. That's right around the corner as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have an episode of talk about that next year.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately that's going to do it for this episode

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Speaker 1: of Bachelor Happy Hours.

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Speaker 2: Golden Thank you so much for joining us. As you know,

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Speaker 2: we have new episodes coming out every week and we're

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Speaker 2: going to stay current and talk about everything that's happening

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Speaker 2: out there. You don't want to miss.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to submit all your questions to us. You

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Speaker 1: can go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or

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Speaker 1: hit us up on socials at Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: And listen to the Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh hoh Hoy. The Holidays